I'm a 70's musician who's Baltimore mother slammed the door in my face when I came off the road from LA. (Vert. stripped bells, CTA purple T-shirt, sandals, and a natural white boy afro.). This being said; you've out done my uncompromising look. 😎 I am a big fan of your tutorial quality, and I applaud your uncluttered, and direct explanations. Thanks for offering yourself to the arts, and keep it coming !
Just something to note: The Free-form Transfer Function and Level Histogram... deal with levels not frequencies. From about 21:28 in the video, your mention the grid is showing frequency ranges, but it is actually showing levels. The way the mid-expansion works in this compressor is sort of like upward compression. VERY nice! I have more control over this than, say, Waves MV2, which I happen to love and used for years. Great overall presentation on this amazing compressor, though, thanks for all that you do! *** From page 13 of the manual about the "expand mid" function: "Expand Mid Here we’ve chosen the ‘Expand Mid’ Template, changing how smart:comp 2 handles levels below the set threshold. The loudest signal parts are being compressed (just as before), signals between the threshold and the second thumb are expanded and signals below the lower threshold are compressed again. This mapping is also indicated by the spacings of the Compression Grid."
I bought it yesterday.. cause me blows away from this gem. Sonible is that best.. all plugins are really great and timesaver without compromising the results
Very clear tutorial on this plugin. It does so much more than I realized. I'm likely going to be watching this a few more times since I just bought this plugin today. Great video. Thank you for your hard work.
They’ve made a great plugin by doing what digital does best without trying to emulate analog. I love the amount of control you have in this. This’ll find it’s use in a studio setup with all the analog you’d need, while also being quite ahead in reference of just in the box. I can see this being my bread and butter in a DAW now and after I expand. I could get the absolute most out of the analog units I’d like if I could balance things like this of specific tracks or buses. It might even find it’s way pre or post analog in a master… maybe not post out of fear, but would definitely check if that fear is rational or not if I get a chance.
Thanks for the heads up David! I didn't know this got released. Between a sale and loyalty discount, I got it for round 50 bucks! Gave it a try on my main mix. 100 spectral. fully clean. universal mode. 3db max compression. It was super transparent. : ) I found the color setting to be very subtle on my material, which is good. The "dirty" setting didn't sound dirty, just more loud/aggressive, which is also good. Seems amazing for master work but I can't wait to try it on individual instruments also. Especially ones with really spiky harsh transients/overtones that are always a pain to tame without over processing the take. I dare say this is probably going to be the best multi-pressor I've used to date.
That's a great indepth review. With this extra ordinary compressor you showed your knowledge you gained over the years in mixing. I enjoyed your excitement. Sonible is one of the view innovating brands in the plugin scene. But it only makes sense in the hands of experienced mixers.
Sonible is crushing it. Smart Limit was the first True Peak limiter I liked the sound of in that mode. Now literally every feature of Smart Comp sounds useful to me, contained within a really intuitive interface. Even the saturation sounds great! What?? Didn’t see this coming and I’m here for it.
Another fantastic review. As a home mixer on my own stuff, I'm no where near as experienced as David. I was initially thinking it was maybe too complex for me but then thought, if I use the presets and analyze, I could do even basic adjustments and it would sound excellent. Also, this is the first time I noticed the difference between the sound of the mix being adjusted and the sound of your voice. It was like a constant enabled/disabled comparison. This plugin sounds amazing. Thank you!
This is the vid I was waiting for! Got it yesterday and man, the saturator really surprised me. Same as you, dunno if it's the same as the one on the limiter but, if it is, it's better implemented here and far more usable.
Thank you David. Perfect overview. Clever. I like Sonible .. have all plugins. I use them sometimes, trustable company. The only mysterious plugin for me is Smart:Reverb. It needs maybe more skill..
Man I fucking love how you put this all out. I couldn't really hear a LOT of difference, a bit borderline superficial on that first mix, but a busy mix like the rock one really gave me a perspective about where this could possibly go on some more lush pop songs I mix. Also, we twinning with that "I either compress, don't compress or create a send", because, me too. I've never seen a point in dry/wet knobs.
just downloaded the demo and it really does open a lot of possibilities. even emulating certain compressor types with the attack and release curves. good thing I held off buying the first iteration also because it didn't have auto release which is useful for certain tracks.
Wonderful review and demonstration of this incredible new tool from Sonible. Thank you for that David. This is truly breathtaking to use. I'm I right in saying that this replaces any de-essing tool there is. I've tried it and it's so brilliant and smooth for de-essing. It also in my mind replaces WaveFactory trackspacer. I am absolutely blown away by what Sonible have done here. Thanks for an interesting demonstration
Even without the automatic setting (or "AI") it's a really superb compressor. The spectral processing makes it sound great for basically any material you throw at it, and it really does work better than a multi-band comp in many situations! The added expander/gate/upwards compression feature, spectral link and dark/bright/style settings for the spectral processing makes it a completely different beast compared to version 1. All I can say is; Bravo, Sonible! You absolutely knocked it out of the park with this one. It reminds me of Pro Audio DSP's Dynamic Spectrum Mapper, which I believe works in the same way (FFT-based compression), but instead of AI-controlled parametrization it has a mode for capturing the overall frequency response of a mix or track which it then applies to the material you are working on. It's also a great plug-in, but Smart:Comp feels much easier to work with, is super light on CPU and has much more functionality.
Haha you can tell you're genuinely excited reviewing this :) Seems to me the spectral comp feature is more just something to help balance out particularly off-balanced input sources, in order to make the compressor work less (hence less pumping). Not to be used on everything, only if the compressor is pumping unnaturally
Sweet. Looks like its ahead of the game even just for a more natural broadband comp. I wonder how the saturation compares to something like the P42. I need a good saturation, but with this comp it might do both for me. And at 1/3 the price.
I tried this comp on some vocals that I recorded badly (way too dynamic). I compressed up to 25bds on the loudest parts and it didn't sound bad at all like others comps after compressing 7bds or more. A must get in my opinion.
Great review. Love Sonible and will def pick this up. BTW, SSL just dropped a new limiter designed for tracks and groups. Would love to hear your thoughts...
Finally a compressor reducing the distinguishing resonances and spectral signatures of dynamics from each track. Powerful, but I think this feature needs to be used with a lot of care.
i'M A sibilant baritone and what smart:comp did on vocals will help me out. Too many toys, such little time! Other than vocals for the 2-bus, it should be a secondary 2nd-order mastering compressor after Unisum MC or Softube DS1-MK3 on the mastering chain to get its "altitude" and sat/colorisation configuration settings right IMHO!
I was just thinking of using smart:comp as a de-esser in tandem with softube weiss de-ess in the advanced >> settings to high filter make-up and you got a hardware-style imaged vocal in the digital domain imho!
I have a question about the latency of this product. Does it mean that the accuracy of the mixing can be reduced because of the latency of this product when I'm mixing?
Ooh so basically it's like if gullfoss was a compressor? I'm not familiar with their EQ but i guess it does the same thing. That's actually really fucking cool! I think i need to take a look at that. I'm all for tools that make the process easier. I totally see this on live drums, catching some nasties in the cymbals. Maybe on the overheads. Well... probably on the overheads and not the bus
You need an Automatic Function on your Phone, when a big amount of PEople get exited on the net (HYPE) , then your Phone Rings and wakes you up middle of the Night , so you can review it . (Hyperventiallation Function)
Theres too much to choose from...sonibles bundles....izotopes offerings, fabfilter....IK multimedia mixbox etc....gulfoss, infinity eq....ETC ETC.....the amount of time I spend trying to understand all these products and compare them...trying to decide which one to go with...because I dont want to end up with 36 plugin suits that somewhat does the same thing as eachother....with a bank account in the negatives....its all too much, or maybe its just me.
Experience will tell you which one and when. At the same time, too many choices is like having none if you don't know the tools inside out. Buy when you found the limits of what you already have
Great plugin indeed, but I wouldn’t say it’s revolutionary. FL studio’s Maximus has been around for years. It doesn’t have AI function but still quite similar.
I appreciate your time, effort and enthusiasm but a shit / boring song is still a shit / boring song and most of these changes are so subtle that to the vast majority of consumers the changes are undiscernable - except perhaps in a club environment, where the most minute of changes at the sub end of things can make a significant difference to how the thing sounds. The tools for audio engineering, producing and mixing get better and better and yet at the same time the quality of the music being pumped out at the end of the sausage making machine is getting shittier and shittier!
Two things, 1st, the song used (and the artist) has hundreds of thousands streams. 2 if your logic is "the listener doesn't notice" you have no business mixing, and I want to say even making music at all. And I'll leave it a this
David, you know you could dial in a better compression setup than this does, and in half the time. Don't get me wrong, I think this could be a very interesting teaching tool. And I do applaud the developers who are trying to push the envelope with these A.I. type tools. Unfortunately in the end I find these sorta tools to be either a rabbit hole that leads you in the wrong direction, or a distraction to what's most important. You spend more time having too correct what sounds questionable, versus just using your ears and nailing it.
This is how I felt about most “AI Suggestion” stuff too. I remember messing with Neutron and it was a joke. Complete time waster using the AI. But Sonible’s stuff hits different. The quality of the suggestions is better but mainly it’s the fluidity of control over what’s suggested that makes it useful to me. It’s like having an assistant prep a track according to a reference and then you can quickly make the aesthetic choices you deem ideal for the material and dial things in. It’s like a second opinion when you need one but ultimately it’s still within your control. For example: every time I insert an 1176 on a bass track, I start from the same settings and then dial it to tempo and material and taste. Something like this just gives that starting point, while also providing features other comps simply don’t have all in one place.
@@mrnelsonius5631 I do appreciate your perspective, and can understand where you're coming from. For me, I've been making records for well over 20 years. Maybe I'm just being old-school on this one? In the end, it's just compression or limiting or both, we're not landing the space shuttle. It's really not that deep. And don't get me wrong. I'm someone with about 20 pieces of outboard gear, and own way more plugins than I need to. I love geeking out on the tools. But for me this sorta thing is just geeking out in the wrong direction. Ymmv
@@engmix at the end of the day, it’s all about what tools inspire us and get us the results we’re after fastest. I’ve made records (as an artist/writer) in renowned studios, and I’ve produced commercial tracks on my laptop. I vastly prefer the analog rich studios! But no one wants to give the budget for it anymore. There’s no wrong way in my opinion if it gets you where you want to be. I’m in the in-between school: professionally I’ve kind of been forced into the mostly ITB world because I’m also a touring musician. But I also know the magic of purpose built outboard tools in a purpose built environment because I used to record that way exclusively. Happy music making my friend, however we choose (or have to 🙃) to do it :)
@@mrnelsonius5631 I fully agree that it's whatever inspires the best end result. I don't think I said this new tool is a wrong way, but if that's how it came off, that wasn't my intention. it looks to me like an overly complicated way, and a way where one can be easily led in the wrong direction. One of the reasons why La-2a's to 1176's etc...are so coveted, is due to it's immediate and simplistic workflow. And again don't get me wrong, I use tools like Shaper Box and other complex tools. I never thought I would say this, but I actually prefer my current hybrid workflow to working on tape and large format consoles. My current studio has been the most enjoyable to date, and that's accounting for some of the 6-7 figure studios I used to work in. I also recognize that we're in a new realm of the profession. It's been great to have the analog gear in my racks, but I would be FKD without my cpu based digital tools. For the most part I don't want to spend more than 3 minutes eq'ing and compressing anything, because after that my perspective is probably heading in the wrong direction. I think as these tools get further refined, they will be unquestionably useable. These are my humble opinions, I'm by no means the God of audio. Glad to see your busy working and having success. I started out and stayed an engineer and eventually becoming a producer / engineer. I built my studio for both budget minded indie projects, but can also host full-on high expectation label projects as well. Appreciate the chat, be well :)
I am not an audio engineer or anything close. I am just a hobbyist beginner. But I am a highly regarded professional in my real life job, so do understand these back/forth discussions between you guys. In every profession there are new things come to practice that tend to question and revolutionize prior practices. We, old-schoolers, tend to be resistant to these movements because we think what we have established over the years give the best results. This is partly correct and partly wrong. Generations change and new things are adopted, and the new generation does not learn what the past generation learned, so the older practices become obsolete and new things become standard. This seems unfortunate as some strong fundamentals will be forgotten but on the other side new horizons open. I understand both of you. I am an old-schooler in my profession, but remember the days that I, as a newbie, had same discussions with my mentors.
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I'm a 70's musician who's Baltimore mother slammed the door in my face when I came off the road from LA. (Vert. stripped bells, CTA purple T-shirt, sandals, and a natural white boy afro.). This being said; you've out done my uncompromising look. 😎 I am a big fan of your tutorial quality, and I applaud your uncluttered, and direct explanations. Thanks for offering yourself to the arts, and keep it coming !
Just something to note: The Free-form Transfer Function and Level Histogram... deal with levels not frequencies. From about 21:28 in the video, your mention the grid is showing frequency ranges, but it is actually showing levels. The way the mid-expansion works in this compressor is sort of like upward compression. VERY nice! I have more control over this than, say, Waves MV2, which I happen to love and used for years. Great overall presentation on this amazing compressor, though, thanks for all that you do! *** From page 13 of the manual about the "expand mid" function: "Expand Mid
Here we’ve chosen the ‘Expand Mid’
Template, changing how smart:comp 2
handles levels below the set threshold.
The loudest signal parts are being
compressed (just as before), signals
between the threshold and the second
thumb are expanded and signals below
the lower threshold are compressed
again.
This mapping is also indicated by the
spacings of the Compression Grid."
I bought it yesterday.. cause me blows away from this gem. Sonible is that best.. all plugins are really great and timesaver without compromising the results
Very clear tutorial on this plugin. It does so much more than I realized. I'm likely going to be watching this a few more times since I just bought this plugin today. Great video. Thank you for your hard work.
They’ve made a great plugin by doing what digital does best without trying to emulate analog.
I love the amount of control you have in this.
This’ll find it’s use in a studio setup with all the analog you’d need, while also being quite ahead in reference of just in the box.
I can see this being my bread and butter in a DAW now and after I expand.
I could get the absolute most out of the analog units I’d like if I could balance things like this of specific tracks or buses.
It might even find it’s way pre or post analog in a master… maybe not post out of fear, but would definitely check if that fear is rational or not if I get a chance.
Thanks for the heads up David! I didn't know this got released. Between a sale and loyalty discount, I got it for round 50 bucks! Gave it a try on my main mix. 100 spectral. fully clean. universal mode. 3db max compression. It was super transparent. : ) I found the color setting to be very subtle on my material, which is good. The "dirty" setting didn't sound dirty, just more loud/aggressive, which is also good. Seems amazing for master work but I can't wait to try it on individual instruments also. Especially ones with really spiky harsh transients/overtones that are always a pain to tame without over processing the take. I dare say this is probably going to be the best multi-pressor I've used to date.
That's a great indepth review. With this extra ordinary compressor you showed your knowledge you gained over the years in mixing. I enjoyed your excitement. Sonible is one of the view innovating brands in the plugin scene. But it only makes sense in the hands of experienced mixers.
Sonible is crushing it. Smart Limit was the first True Peak limiter I liked the sound of in that mode. Now literally every feature of Smart Comp sounds useful to me, contained within a really intuitive interface. Even the saturation sounds great! What?? Didn’t see this coming and I’m here for it.
Amazing!!! you can use the bell side chain filter to allow the mid snare body to pass thru the compression. Gonna grab this while it's on sale!!!!!!
Another fantastic review. As a home mixer on my own stuff, I'm no where near as experienced as David. I was initially thinking it was maybe too complex for me but then thought, if I use the presets and analyze, I could do even basic adjustments and it would sound excellent. Also, this is the first time I noticed the difference between the sound of the mix being adjusted and the sound of your voice. It was like a constant enabled/disabled comparison. This plugin sounds amazing. Thank you!
This is the vid I was waiting for! Got it yesterday and man, the saturator really surprised me. Same as you, dunno if it's the same as the one on the limiter but, if it is, it's better implemented here and far more usable.
Thank you David. Perfect overview. Clever. I like Sonible .. have all plugins. I use them sometimes, trustable company. The only mysterious plugin for me is Smart:Reverb. It needs maybe more skill..
Man I fucking love how you put this all out. I couldn't really hear a LOT of difference, a bit borderline superficial on that first mix, but a busy mix like the rock one really gave me a perspective about where this could possibly go on some more lush pop songs I mix. Also, we twinning with that "I either compress, don't compress or create a send", because, me too. I've never seen a point in dry/wet knobs.
Wet/Dry is the same as parallel compression. I don't see a reason not to use it.
just downloaded the demo and it really does open a lot of possibilities. even emulating certain compressor types with the attack and release curves. good thing I held off buying the first iteration also because it didn't have auto release which is useful for certain tracks.
Wonderful review and demonstration of this incredible new tool from Sonible. Thank you for that David. This is truly breathtaking to use. I'm I right in saying that this replaces any de-essing tool there is. I've tried it and it's so brilliant and smooth for de-essing. It also in my mind replaces WaveFactory trackspacer. I am absolutely blown away by what Sonible have done here. Thanks for an interesting demonstration
Excellent review & walk through. Thorough examples that really explain how it works.
Even without the automatic setting (or "AI") it's a really superb compressor. The spectral processing makes it sound great for basically any material you throw at it, and it really does work better than a multi-band comp in many situations! The added expander/gate/upwards compression feature, spectral link and dark/bright/style settings for the spectral processing makes it a completely different beast compared to version 1. All I can say is; Bravo, Sonible! You absolutely knocked it out of the park with this one.
It reminds me of Pro Audio DSP's Dynamic Spectrum Mapper, which I believe works in the same way (FFT-based compression), but instead of AI-controlled parametrization it has a mode for capturing the overall frequency response of a mix or track which it then applies to the material you are working on. It's also a great plug-in, but Smart:Comp feels much easier to work with, is super light on CPU and has much more functionality.
Haha you can tell you're genuinely excited reviewing this :)
Seems to me the spectral comp feature is more just something to help balance out particularly off-balanced input sources, in order to make the compressor work less (hence less pumping). Not to be used on everything, only if the compressor is pumping unnaturally
Sweet. Looks like its ahead of the game even just for a more natural broadband comp. I wonder how the saturation compares to something like the P42. I need a good saturation, but with this comp it might do both for me. And at 1/3 the price.
I tried this comp on some vocals that I recorded badly (way too dynamic). I compressed up to 25bds on the loudest parts and it didn't sound bad at all like others comps after compressing 7bds or more. A must get in my opinion.
that perfect "over-compressed" signature sound 🔥 is there!
So easy to just throw on anything. Great and intelligent plugin
Great weekend David 🔥🤘
Great! Thank you David!
Excellent tutorial ! You go into a lot of very useful detail which I really appreciate.
One control you missed is the knee hard/soft control at the threshold break point. It's that extra dot below the curve. :)
Great review. Love Sonible and will def pick this up. BTW, SSL just dropped a new limiter designed for tracks and groups. Would love to hear your thoughts...
Finally a compressor reducing the distinguishing resonances and spectral signatures of dynamics from each track. Powerful, but I think this feature needs to be used with a lot of care.
This plugin is insane. The name Smart really does a disservice to the plugin because it actually has unprecedented amount of manual control available.
i'M A sibilant baritone and what smart:comp did on vocals will help me out. Too many toys, such little time! Other than vocals for the 2-bus, it should be a secondary 2nd-order mastering compressor after Unisum MC or Softube DS1-MK3 on the mastering chain to get its "altitude" and sat/colorisation configuration settings right IMHO!
Great tool, tutorial! 💪
what an insanely great plugin
THANKS for actually explaining it well
Great video. Great explaining !
Thanks Dave!
It's a perfect de-esser I must say
I was just thinking of using smart:comp as a de-esser in tandem with softube weiss de-ess in the advanced >> settings to high filter make-up and you got a hardware-style imaged vocal in the digital domain imho!
Best de-esser is manual automation 😉
@@who_is_dis that takes too long lol
@@MadACeTeeMack yeah you're right 😂
good stuff david!
Dude! I love your channel. 🤓
Great tutorial!
i love you and all of your great videos… but i really love this first song! who is this?
😊 and btw i love sonible too, i have some of your new plugins
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Thanks
Thank you Mark!!!
Holy cow, this thing has like every feature imaginable lol
great review david im wondering where do you think a tool like this should really be aplllied or do you think you can use it anywhere ?
I said where at the end of the video
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Just got it today
David, I’m curious to hear what it will replace in your current repertoire of go-to plugins. What for you has now become obsolete?
Probably some "surf eq" type, multiband compressors, maybe some deessers in some cases
My favorite part is the saturation. It adds punch. P42 removes punch.
I have a question about the latency of this product. Does it mean that the accuracy of the mixing can be reduced because of the latency of this product when I'm mixing?
DAW compensate for latency automatically.
Hey David also wanted to know what do you think about focusrite & sonible plugin called ➡️ balancer
I'm also interested in BALANCER - I hope he will break it down soon...
I noticed it has a Auto Gain Option Do u Use it on your tracks or you turn it down?
What other plugins compressors can I use after it
Or it just do everything for you
David is it true you can make smartcomp sound like a Distressor? Just wondering what settings to use
I HIGHLY doubt. Besides the obvious, where's the 2 saturation types on the smart comp? That alone..
MSpectralDynamics does spectral ducking but with much more control.
Why do you prefer an aux compression channel instead of a wet knob?
This compressor seems to me that it is a combination of ProC and Maximus (an Image Line Plugin) with some added features. I like it.
I don't understand why people compare this to maximus which is a normal multiband dynamic like another 120343 out there. They really are nothing alike
1 Question:
Sonible-smart:bundle or Izotope-Mix n Master bundle upgrade fom9 to 10?
If you have 9 already, definitely Sonible
@@mixbustv thx for a quick answer and i hope this video is not sponsored :D
Normally i would upgrade but izotope's prices are ridiculous.
David woke up to a truck load of msgs , i woke up in a new bugatti :D
damn so sick plugin
Wait for the update!!..... 😉
Got a cupple of bugs
You're putting this on the entire track?
Ooh so basically it's like if gullfoss was a compressor? I'm not familiar with their EQ but i guess it does the same thing. That's actually really fucking cool! I think i need to take a look at that. I'm all for tools that make the process easier. I totally see this on live drums, catching some nasties in the cymbals. Maybe on the overheads. Well... probably on the overheads and not the bus
Had smart comp 1, barely surviving in a studio over 40 deg celcius, but wow
You need an Automatic Function on your Phone, when a big amount of PEople get exited on the net (HYPE) , then your Phone Rings and wakes you up middle of the Night , so you can review it . (Hyperventiallation Function)
Wow!!
Theres too much to choose from...sonibles bundles....izotopes offerings, fabfilter....IK multimedia mixbox etc....gulfoss, infinity eq....ETC ETC.....the amount of time I spend trying to understand all these products and compare them...trying to decide which one to go with...because I dont want to end up with 36 plugin suits that somewhat does the same thing as eachother....with a bank account in the negatives....its all too much, or maybe its just me.
Experience will tell you which one and when. At the same time, too many choices is like having none if you don't know the tools inside out. Buy when you found the limits of what you already have
When I added the GMS it softed completely different than yours. Yours softed more like a real app, wNice tutorialle mine softed very
What track is that from the first artist before the rock mix?
open.spotify.com/artist/4X2Z9ERdFSzKfOGzB7pELz?autoplay=true
fabfilter sweating right now 😥
even this compressor has two instagrams, i think i'm gonna make an account now
What's your code to get a discount
Link in the description
@@mixbustv oh...I thought you had an additional the. The 89.99 is regular sale price for now
Hello! I sent an email asking to mix and master my song. I just want to know if it's possible.
If you didn't get a reply, send it again and make sure the address is correct
Fabfilter is shaking
This with the SmartEQ right after in full dynamic mode is UNBELIEVABLE. Annoyingly theres no bypass for this in UAD Luna 🤔bit annoying.
On individuals or mixbus track?
@@sonjcipro6206 I was using it on an individual track, you can do mixbus too I believe. Not tried that yet.
Revolutionary, isn't it?
Sonible with some other AI based plug-ins (Baby Audio, Scaler, MasterTheMix) almost feels like cheating!
I have all of them and I agree. That with Tonal Balance 2 by Izotope, Nectar, Nuetron and Ozone it’s crazy! They’re definitely the cheat code.
Great plugin indeed, but I wouldn’t say it’s revolutionary. FL studio’s Maximus has been around for years. It doesn’t have AI function but still quite similar.
It's really nothing like this, not even close. It's just a multiband comp/gate
People still use FL Studio?🤔
jk😁
Nah the difference is night and day mate
@@coldskoolbeatz those jokes got boring a few years ago
@@firmans12 still, nothing revolutionary in my opinion.
I appreciate your time, effort and enthusiasm but a shit / boring song is still a shit / boring song and most of these changes are so subtle that to the vast majority of consumers the changes are undiscernable - except perhaps in a club environment, where the most minute of changes at the sub end of things can make a significant difference to how the thing sounds. The tools for audio engineering, producing and mixing get better and better and yet at the same time the quality of the music being pumped out at the end of the sausage making machine is getting shittier and shittier!
Two things, 1st, the song used (and the artist) has hundreds of thousands streams. 2 if your logic is "the listener doesn't notice" you have no business mixing, and I want to say even making music at all. And I'll leave it a this
David, you know you could dial in a better compression setup than this does, and in half the time. Don't get me wrong, I think this could be a very interesting teaching tool. And I do applaud the developers who are trying to push the envelope with these A.I. type tools. Unfortunately in the end I find these sorta tools to be either a rabbit hole that leads you in the wrong direction, or a distraction to what's most important. You spend more time having too correct what sounds questionable, versus just using your ears and nailing it.
This is how I felt about most “AI Suggestion” stuff too. I remember messing with Neutron and it was a joke. Complete time waster using the AI. But Sonible’s stuff hits different. The quality of the suggestions is better but mainly it’s the fluidity of control over what’s suggested that makes it useful to me. It’s like having an assistant prep a track according to a reference and then you can quickly make the aesthetic choices you deem ideal for the material and dial things in. It’s like a second opinion when you need one but ultimately it’s still within your control. For example: every time I insert an 1176 on a bass track, I start from the same settings and then dial it to tempo and material and taste. Something like this just gives that starting point, while also providing features other comps simply don’t have all in one place.
@@mrnelsonius5631 I do appreciate your perspective, and can understand where you're coming from. For me, I've been making records for well over 20 years. Maybe I'm just being old-school on this one? In the end, it's just compression or limiting or both, we're not landing the space shuttle. It's really not that deep. And don't get me wrong. I'm someone with about 20 pieces of outboard gear, and own way more plugins than I need to. I love geeking out on the tools. But for me this sorta thing is just geeking out in the wrong direction. Ymmv
@@engmix at the end of the day, it’s all about what tools inspire us and get us the results we’re after fastest. I’ve made records (as an artist/writer) in renowned studios, and I’ve produced commercial tracks on my laptop. I vastly prefer the analog rich studios! But no one wants to give the budget for it anymore. There’s no wrong way in my opinion if it gets you where you want to be. I’m in the in-between school: professionally I’ve kind of been forced into the mostly ITB world because I’m also a touring musician. But I also know the magic of purpose built outboard tools in a purpose built environment because I used to record that way exclusively. Happy music making my friend, however we choose (or have to 🙃) to do it :)
@@mrnelsonius5631 I fully agree that it's whatever inspires the best end result. I don't think I said this new tool is a wrong way, but if that's how it came off, that wasn't my intention. it looks to me like an overly complicated way, and a way where one can be easily led in the wrong direction. One of the reasons why La-2a's to 1176's etc...are so coveted, is due to it's immediate and simplistic workflow. And again don't get me wrong, I use tools like Shaper Box and other complex tools. I never thought I would say this, but I actually prefer my current hybrid workflow to working on tape and large format consoles. My current studio has been the most enjoyable to date, and that's accounting for some of the 6-7 figure studios I used to work in. I also recognize that we're in a new realm of the profession. It's been great to have the analog gear in my racks, but I would be FKD without my cpu based digital tools. For the most part I don't want to spend more than 3 minutes eq'ing and compressing anything, because after that my perspective is probably heading in the wrong direction. I think as these tools get further refined, they will be unquestionably useable. These are my humble opinions, I'm by no means the God of audio. Glad to see your busy working and having success. I started out and stayed an engineer and eventually becoming a producer / engineer. I built my studio for both budget minded indie projects, but can also host full-on high expectation label projects as well. Appreciate the chat, be well :)
I am not an audio engineer or anything close. I am just a hobbyist beginner. But I am a highly regarded professional in my real life job, so do understand these back/forth discussions between you guys. In every profession there are new things come to practice that tend to question and revolutionize prior practices. We, old-schoolers, tend to be resistant to these movements because we think what we have established over the years give the best results. This is partly correct and partly wrong. Generations change and new things are adopted, and the new generation does not learn what the past generation learned, so the older practices become obsolete and new things become standard. This seems unfortunate as some strong fundamentals will be forgotten but on the other side new horizons open.
I understand both of you. I am an old-schooler in my profession, but remember the days that I, as a newbie, had same discussions with my mentors.
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