Automatic Reverb? Sonible smart:reverb
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Today we have the wonderful opportunity to try out a brand new plugin, the smart:reverb from Sonible! I am very excited about this plugin because Sonible’s plugins tend to be very intuitive and produce great results. So we are going to open it up and put it on a mix to try it out in all the different applications I would usually use a reverb!
The Sonible smart:reverb is an AI-powered plugin that delivers a tailored reverb by aligning its processing to the characteristics of the input material. This allows you to get a custom-tailored reverb in seconds, and quickly find a reverb that fits your vision.
With just one click, smart:reverb analyzes the source material and creates a reverb from scratch. That reverb is custom-fitted to that signal, which helps to eliminate typical reverb issues like disturbing resonances or muddy reverb tails right from the start. This plugin also provides you with an interactive view of the reverb’s anatomy, which allows you to adjust it where you need to.
After testing out this plugin on a mix, I can see that this is one I might reach for to recreate natural room tones. With many reverb plugins, I feel that what they give me is completely over the top, when all I really want to do is create space and depth. Often I am getting DI’s or virtual instruments that don’t have any spatial feel about them, and I want to use a reverb to give them space and feel like they are put in a place. The way that the smart:reverb creates custom reverbs for each signal gives a natural sounding reverb that I really like. I think this would be the one I would reach for to recreate natural space!
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What are your favourite ways to use reverb?
For orchestra I've started using the 'main pair' in Exponentials R2 for the decca mic in the sample libraries, and the 'spot mic' for the close mics. Any single reverb never seems to sound as good as using two.
Drowning my piano tracks with it, haha.
i love the panning-reverb-opposite trick for rhythm guitars!
I do mostly post rock so i like it nice and thick. I like it to feel like the notes are washing out into space and dont act the same way twice.
With a Lot of automation letting it feel between spaces!
Hi Warren, I'm having a marvelous time recording and mixing!!
Fantastic! That's marvellous to hear!
Sounds brilliant, it’s perfect for the style of reverb I use most - natural, just to give a sense of space.
That's exactly how I see using it!
Impressive sound for a digital reverb. I've NEVER bought a reverb plugin because they dont appeal to me but this on the other hand actually simulates a terrific room sound. Strongly considering having this
You always help me when I’m a little low on inspiration. Thanks man! Keep it up!
Always the consummate presenter! Thanks Warren, for the in depth test of this plugin; I can envision reflections from the Mississippi to California, and will be adding it to my stack pronto.
Hi Warren, great review, always good to hear how a product works in real time, Thank you, all the best.
Thanks ever so much Darren!!
Hey Warren, i downloaded earlier today and of course tried it out heavily.I had the exact same impression of this reverb. I also changed my personal template to put it in the places of my short reverbs which i use to create the feeling of a natural room. This plugin is very good and sound extremly nice as well. I personally love the option of altering the decay frequncy to my needs. I see me already overuse this feature haha.
have a wonderful day
Off topic: Martin Birch passed away. It saddens me. Martin had a hand in so many of my all time favorite records. From Fleetwood Mac to Deep Purple to Maiden. What a legend. Hope you have the time to make some kind of tribute show. He deserves it. Thank you Warren :)
Great! Thank you! It’s always nice to watch and get that helpful information here and there... greetings from over the ocean...
Sounds interesting! Don't know of much that can be that versatile, but this is testimonial! Great work!
Hi RC32! Glad you like it!
@@Producelikeapro My pleasure as always!
@@RC32Smiths01 Thanks ever so much!
@@Producelikeapro You are absolutely welcome!
Im actually quite impressed by this plugin.
Fantastic! Thanks for sharing!
This is an awesome reverb, creative stuff!
HI Iulian! Glad you like it!
The mix was great to start with ... but even better with the Smart Reverb.
It's got a great room sound! Very modern sounding as well. Quite refreshing actually for this style of music in particular. Reminds me of the sound Pensado use to get for Kelly Clarkson back in the day.
Fantastic reverb!!! UVI Plate can different decay too. But this is amazing! Dreaming about it now. :)
Thanks ever so much for sharing!
Wow. That groove you had going at about 8:00 was really cool as it's own thing.
Thanks ever so much Clay! You Rock!!
Love the sounds of that track!
Thanks ever so much!
Second review I of this reverb tonight, makes me want to try it out.
Thanks for the video Warren. I have been playing about with this for a few days. I love their Smart comp and Smart EQ and have a few of their other plugins. Reverb sounds great as a natural sounding reverb and may replace Altiverb for me on a few things. I use a lot of IRs but I like the freedom this gives you to adjust things completely with algorithms. It's definitely not a character reverb and won't be replacing my EMTs and Lexicons any time soon, but definitely agree with you that it's going to become a go-to for natural-sounding spaces. I do find it a little spiky in CPU consumption if I am running a low buffer but to be honest, this is a mixing tool so I would likely be running my buffers up at 1024 anyway. At this setting, there are no audio clicks or pops, but I did find a few at 128 on my Apollo Twin. The interface is easy to look at although I would prefer a few more dials to move rather than click and drag number fields but that's just personal taste. All round a great plugin and has just made it into my regular mix template.
Looks like an amazing plugin.
I got it today too, seems good and flexible!
That's wonderful to hear Cezar!
Yep, bought it this morning... not bad! I have all their plugs, really good stuff (not a paid shill, just a satisfied user) liking the AI stuff a lot! Hal...Hal!!! yes Dave ;)
I think of them as different spaces and spring reverb as something unique altogether. These details are often hard to keep when the files are compressed down for YT, always seems like my spaces are getting discarded. So if I play a spring reverb from the amp into my DAW and add a room reverb, it becomes comfortable, very much like a room mic is mixed against the source. Then if I add one of the long tail halls, myself I enjoy the warbelling chorus tails, it begins to take on the feel of being recorded to tape. This is a wonderful way to open a song, but as soon as more instruments join the mix, it all disappears, takes up mix space, and detracts from other parts featuring. So it’s nice to have that tracked as a separate wet effect that can be automated to duck out of the way. For me the Eventide 7000 series and 8000 series units deliver all of the choices, there must be 50 of them, and it’s a lot of work to setup something that quickly disappears later, or is removed for clarity. I would love to see you discuss the 3000 series reverbs, because they were so simple and loaded with character, they often survive the mix because of their unique personality. You still have the 9000 there, which has over 50 reverbs. It would be cool to see you contrast the 3000/9000 reverbs, because over the course of many years Eventide updated their reverbs significantly. Now you have all of the added delays, pitches, and chorus to make them really unique. Thank you Warren for so much incredible content, you are the go-to channel for audio. I can think of no other person who has contributed so much to the music community. My highest regards, James.
Nice video! By the way, I love this song and especially the great voice of the singer
Thanks ever so much
I like a lot the Reverb, not so crazy about the smart function, but is cool to have it.... but yes, the plugin seems to be very cool and versatile
Thanks ever so much for sharing Blue!!
@@Producelikeapro owe you the review of the whole previous video
great video!
I love these videos!
Thanks ever so much Michael!
I've been playing around with this reverb for about a week (beta testing), which has allowed the "new car smell" to dissipate enough to objectively consider if it's a tool I'm likely to use over the long haul. When I first started integrating it into a few projects I thought "nice, super easy to dial in the sound I want, sounds really good in a utilitarian way". After a week of trying to break it (functionally and tonally) I can tell you it takes effort to make it sound bad (it took pushing it into the corner of artificial/lush at high density, with max reverb time and no pre-delay). I especially like it on recorded acoustic guitar, bass, and vocals but also found it useful on virtual instruments. So, a week later I'd add CPU efficient, versatile, and extremely intuitive to my initial thoughts.
I know we live in an age of needing to qualify our statements, so no... I do not receive any compensation or benefits from Sonible for my feedback. If I want this plugin then I will need to purchase it just like everybody else. So am I going to purchase it? I have plenty of high quality reverbs but I like the way smart:reverb effortlessly integrated into my workflow, love it on vocals/guitar, and I think it's perfectly suited to be my work horse precision reverb because of its flexibility. So yes, I'm going to buy it.
Wow! Thanks ever so much for the amazing insight! This really helps us all!
I like to second Matthews' experience he share with us. Downloaded the trial version this morning after I saw Warrens' review and gave it a go. It ended in I, bought it. Due my testing I really like the 'fusion' of a guided , fast find a reverb/room for a track, by the learn function but it also keeps all doors open to manipulate the reverb. It covers most reverb types someone needs but it is also great for sound design, that's what I like. It will be keeper for a long time. A short last word on the GUI.. I've never seen a reverb plug in, representing your tweaks on the parameters in such a nice way. You can see the atmosphere particels being turning around with your tweaks. Great reverb. Thanks for this review video Warren.
I forgot to mention, the freeze and infinite buttons..just throw something in the sVerb... could be a looping tool, strike one note, strike a second instrument on a second track.. let it be all in infinite mode and jam along
Wel some in and output control and meters are still absent. No predelay sync, also small reverb time are difficult on the linear scale. In my test runs is has a strong metallic sound. Smart comp is a great example of sonible skills. I think this Plugin is either hasty released or not diverse tested. Great potential but not replacing my lexicon.
I guess you missed the upper right window, that’s where the magic happens. Anyway, great reverb for sound design and creative use.
great song !!
First off, her voice is great, killer tone. Not sure who she is, but I am now a fan. This plugin on her voice towards the end of the video really made you feel like you were right next to her in the room, loved it. Wonder how this would be for a "Faux Room" to use on drums and other things to sound like a single room used for the tracking
That's fantastic to hear! Glad you enjoyed the video and Alexx's voice!
Love how you had it looping in 7, sounded really cool lol reverb itself sounds beautiful. Does it support high sample rates? Last sonible plug-ins I tried I think only went up to 48k
Sounds great and look very intuitive!!! Thank you for the demo! An FYI though: Looks like the giveaway page might not be working properly; I can't find a form or link on the page to enter the giveaway.
Thanks for all the great vids!!!
Hi Jonathan, I just checked and it worked for me. Do you have Pop Ups disabled? The entry comes as a separate app. Please let me know how you get on!
@@Producelikeapro Thanks for the quick reply! I found out that it only works for me if using Safari. Tried in Chrome, Internet Explorer, Microsoft Edge, and then tried Safari on my MacBook. A tiny loading icon shows up in the other browsers for me but it doesn't actually load. I do not see any popups being blocked in those browsers.
Thanks again!!
@@JonathanThomson ok, great! So you were able to enter? Thanks for the reply!
If it was smart it would of known it was a snare 😂
Aha! Who's to say it didn't?....haha It's reading our minds!
Produce Like A Pro have you used Neural DSP Cory Wong? It blew my mind. I don’t think there’s a guitar plug in that can produce clean tones like this. I know nothing compares to mic and amp recording but this comes close.
Richard lawrence thanks for the tip! I’ll have to try it out!!
This is completely unrelated to anything, but I had the video speed at 0.5 x and didn't realize, and wow, funniest thing ever!
What a reverb, amazing in my view and great price tbh. Do we need more reverbs? maybe not? But do we have a reverb like this? Copped.
Haha I hear 100%!!
Love the channel Warren! AI is the most overused and misused term of 2020. In most cases these things are human programmed responses to certain conditions. If you give it the same information and it does the same thing every time it's likely not AI. If it learned how you changed it's programmed responses and applied that info to future mixes, then maybe you could call it AI.
Thanks Scott! Actually in Tech Terms I would have to go with 'Machine Learning' as the most overused term! AI was something people used a lot in the last 10 years but now everything is 'Machine Learning'! Haha
@@Producelikeapro fair enough. Even better when the terms are used together!
@@scottakam Haha yes! I've seen that many times as well!
It might be called AI but as a listener you are the ultimate judge.
Mixing Reverb Types Are Great...
Absolutely!
Great demo on this app,watched another review(worthless) I think it is also a great app fo sound design.
I think it sounds punchy and full on the snare and nice and lush on the vocal though, had heaps of the pre-delay hugeness vibe without any pre-delay somehow, way cooler than valhalla, but just a little less clean sounding.
Hi Warren. You should look into something called RTX Voice. It's a noise reduction app for gaming / voice chat but it's by far one of the best noise removal tools I've ever used. It uses AI as well. I used it to remove noise from a source that was near destroyed, full of noise. It managed to make it significantly more clear, even more then izotope RX. Since it's not a plugin I had to do some routing but the result was amazing.
great video ..great stuff
BTW are using the 192 i/o and link and a rosetta ad 8000 ?
this was very interesting. might fit a lot of the new pop stuff very well.
could it be that some of the "artificial" algorithms were inspired by old yamaha rev1 or rev7 extreme early reflection settings?
I really like the UI and concept. You can more easily come up with an idea and implement it. I like that you can see how it works over time. That's really helpful and faster to use I would think. I think I'm going to go ahead and buy it since it's 50% off right now with the code nl4ym3ax.
You sold it to me when you pressed play at 24:55 😂😂😂
Fantastic!! Thanks ever so much!
Wow! Thanks ever so much Philipp!!
the FabFilter Pro R also has the feature where you can change the decay time with respect to the frequency :D
Yes, that's a wonderful feature! Great to see it being done!
Yep, will be cool to compare both
@Muso Snoop why XD which one do you use? also what do you think about the free Valhalla reverbs?
Omg... you are so right about the “Guitar player groove” as a former drummer in 7 different bands, I’ve heard that groove sooooo many times! 😂😂👍
I certainly hope you had the chance to learn more about this before giving up on it. It was hard to watch, especially the vocal section where you forgot to gave the plugin learn the vocal sound so you were listening to the guitar process on the lead vocal. You avso didn’t get to the upper controls where you can control frequency and reverb time, not being critical, you did better than I did on day one. Actually much better than I did.
The clarity control is amazing and makes this super transparent. It is easy to give up on a plugin but I would hope you spent more time to get to more features and sound possibilities, it is an amazing tool and the clarity tool keeps the verb from masking the input signal. Letting vocals pop. Thank you for the great content.
didn't sound like he gave up on it lol
@@Jaburu I didn’t say he gave up on it. I said I hoped he spent more time with it. He didn’t explore a number of key features because it is a very complex plugin and I wanted to encourage him and others to spend more time with it.
must say it seams to be very poorly explored by the pros. few talking about this one. probably out of fear to sound different than others. the go-to "industry standard" reverbs are far from realistic after all. not saying you can't design all kinds of artificial reverbs with this one, you obviously can. but the pros are always after "that sound" it seams. there is few space for experiments nowadays.
@@Jaburu The thing that I like most about this reverb is that it doesn’t mask the source material while sounding natural.
@@Endless_Skyway_Adventures yea, the clarity funcion is more sofisticated than a simple ducking with a compressor
A drummer who plays guitar= asking for trouble, A guitarplayer who plays drums: one big trickery,hahahaha... Nice job man!!!
Haha I LOVE Drummers that play guitar! They have the best feel and groove! Look at Dave Grohl!!
@Warren: Did you already tried the Psp InfiniStrip on your channel? Try it out man, if you want, feel free!!!! ;)
As do Björn in In Flames, he was the drummer from the beginning
Wow!
Love Sonible, but recently started running high DPI and their GUI gets messed up. Hope they fix that.
I love the UX on this plugin, also unable to enter giveaway through your website, it just keeps loading and says "discovering the big giveaway theory"
Id love to see you mix an EDM track.
Thoughts on cheap (under $500) mic pres?
How would you rate it against Fab Filter's Pro R? I'm interested in this one, but more often then not, I'm reaching for Pro R first in the vast majority of my work.
I wish one those lead vocals sr
Sounds fine, but a bit too tricky for me, maybe next year.
You sold me this plugin.
Wonderful Delon!!
Warren, why did you pitch the vocal down an octave like that... was it to add more presence to the lower frequencies or for general harmonics or what?
Warren, I have a philosophic remark. The phrase "creating space" is sort of wrong. Actually, what you do with reverbs and delays is restricting space, i.e. creating finite rooms of various size. When there is no reverb or delay whatsoever, you have perfect, endless space.
15:55 he forgets to hit record on Sonible.. did you not notice the dry reverb signal? all love my bro easily done - awesome channel !
Ye noticed that
Hi Real World News, I was using the Pre Set for Vocals.
@@jonnytaylor19 I was using the Pre Set for Vocals as opposed to getting it to learn! Maybe Eric edited me out saying that?
@@Producelikeapro You still have to hit record :) selecting vocals gives the Algo more of an idea .. look back and you will hear you have no reverb at all at 15:55 .. all love bro new plug and you're a busy man I think your mind wondered for a second :)
Neoverb or this? Which one u prefer?
Anything to say on Martin Birch who died the other day? It would be great to hear another professional breakdown his style and technique
Yes, I did, very sad indeed!
Everytime I try to demo a plugin requiring iLok it explodes and there is no obvious fix ....Simply can't try this cool reverb in Studio One 4 i guess
A good workhorse reverb for a more natural sound then?
Yes, agreed Pat!!
Hmmm, I resisted posting a question here until I'd seen the whole video, but now I have, I'll ask it anyway. How would this work on a bus, when you're actually using the reverb across a number of tracks? I see how this works as an insert (because it's "tuned" to the source) but does it still work as a "general purpose" send verb, or is that not the point?
I’m speculating of course. Haven’t demoed it yet, but I would imagine that’s what the universal algorithm is for. Sonible’s demo video basically says that.
Hi James, that's actually one of the uses I'm thinking! This to me seems to be one of most 'natural sounding' room like verbs, not hyped like a lot of the standard verbs. That would allow me to add subtle room verbs to many sounds, just like you're proposing here.
Produce Like A Pro That makes complete sense. I started thinking about CPU usage if it was used as an insert - which got me thinking about buses. A lovely natural sounding, unobtrusive general purpose verb is actually (for me at least!) quite hard to place - so I’m going to try the demo and see if it helps me. Thank you!
What is your mixing monitor ? Auratone 5c ?
I have Genelec 1032's, Kali LP 6 and Focal Trio11's!
On the vocal, you forgot to hit Record for the AI to learn.
17:30 its good to see that even a Pro sometimes tweaking parameters that have 0 effect :)
im sure that happens to everyone sometimes
Hello, the link to enter the giveaway works but there is not a section in the page to enter your name and info to participate, i tried different browsers, thank you!
Hi there BrainDead, I just clicked on the Page and when you click to enter it gives you either email or FaceBook. Please try again, you should see it. Many thanks Warren
@@Producelikeapro thanks for replying! it tried it a few more times and it's there :)
@@BrainDeadTX I had a difficult time as well. It took like 5 minutes to load but all good now.
the entry is not loading
Hi there, I did try and there was an issue at first, however I belief it should be loading now properly!
Please upload the multitrack
It is available inside of the Academy.
1:40 I feel attacked...
👍
Thanks ever so much!!
Not many guitarists sit down and play a 7/4 groove on drums. 😉😂
haha I will try! Although I can play 'Money' by Pink Floyd! That's a very simple beat!
@@Producelikeapro I was joking about the loop you made that cutoff the last beat, so it was in 7/4. See 6:43 for example. 😁
Is it just me or did it take way too long just to get it to sound as decent as the stock D-Verb -_- Cool features but is it really practical for mixing, or more for creative sounds?
He never pressed record for the vocal to get the recommended reverb
@@jonnytaylor19 I was using the Pre Set for Vocals rather than getting to learn. Maybe that wasn't clear to you? I see you've left this comment a few times, so wanted to clarify for you.
Sounds like something from X Factor. Lol.
no loops...please
uhhh im the 8th watching the video
Thanks ever so much!!
I have plugins which know when they are inserted and when they are on a send and adjust dry/wet accordingly. This ain't so smart. Plus, most reverbs start with a default setting you adjust as needed or go to a preset and adjust from there. I see no other difference with this plugin. That being said, the only thing that makes no sense is the AI part of this. I wonder if they would offer it with or without the AI portion? The interface as very intuitive, which is very cool. The only thing which seems superfluous is the AI.
When is someone going to make the "Mix" plugin?.....hit the "mix" button and the track is finished....AI got skillz
This lady singing in this video example is forcing her vibrato too much. Why? Not every single prolongated phrase needs vibrato. Essentially she has nice smokey grunge voice/vocal. Other than that this plugin is really nice done. Probably the safe bet of purchase. Deoming in progress.
Great! Let's us know how you get on with the Plug In!
@@BrunoNeureiter thanks ever so much!
@@Producelikeapro Will do Warren. Will do. Stay safe!
Those vocals have sort of been ruined by auto-tuning a bit. :/
Nice plugin you once forgot to teach the reverb you see it because it is white, no balls in color look on your video cheers.
7:02..........That's what she said.......
Hm the whole AI thing is a marketing gag here. I actually don´t like when people steal this term for their financial benefit.
but it does use AI... Telling you as a software engineer
@@an5683 how so?
@@cheesesoup2894 sorry?
@@an5683 I always though the definition of AI would be a program that without you telling it what to do (in terms of worksteps) figures out a solution for a problem by itself. I have very basic programming experience, but it seems this plugin simply has a list of if statements that it goes through when you feed it with tasks/audio input. As in-> you tell it you want your reverb to make the sound warmer. The programmer wrote definitions of what "warm" means, the input signal get analysed and an EQ curve is adjusted so the output fits the definition of "warm". Now you can write your definitions very precisely etc.etc. and it seems like the Plugins "thinks" on its own, when in reality it just exactly performs tasks when and how the programmer told it to.
But as I said I got not that much knowledge, so my understanding is probably wrong. Or I simply misunderstood what AI means.
@@cheesesoup2894 Simply speaking, when creating those AI programs, developers feed thousands of examples to the AI algorithm, telling it, that is a good example, we want the result like it, and that is a bad example, we don't want the result to be like it. The AI role in this it to figure out by itself, why this is bad and this is good, and create some sort of rules that lead tto creating a good result. That machine learning. Machine learns by itself, that's it. You don't tell it, this is bad because of that, and this is good because of that, you just show. Like show don't tell. Hope that wasn't too vague.
оh, fuск those bubble visualisation... so unnecessary.
I'd like to see/hear some vids done with something more original sounding as far as song choices and production values. For me, the songs are too often insipid, radio-ready 4 chord carbon-copy clones of each other, this one being no exception. I like the techniques but I hate the music. Just boring, predictable schlock. My apologies to the artist but it is what it is.
Working as a producer you will have to listen and work on a lot of music you don’t necessarily vibe with.
@@queenpurple8433 Why? Can't the producer chose what he or she is going to work on? Isn't it the producer's job to develop a unique style for each song? Does the world really need yet another mass-produced, grid-aligned, groove-less wall-of-sound, formula-oriented pop clone? No disrespect to Warren, I've learned a lot from his vids, but sometimes I have a hard time getting through them to the end because the music is so vapid. Some songs are like beautiful paintings, some are nothing more than wallpaper. This falls into the wallpaper category. Seems like a lot of work for something so disposable. I'm old. I started out in the 70s working on a Teac 3440 4-track. I obviously didn't have the luxury of 18 tracks for drums, doubling every guitar part and having every imaginable effect at my fingertips. Samples? What samples? It was all about the song and the performance. Either I'm just getting senile and cranky or there's something sorely missing from modern music production. I'm betting on the latter.
Meg Watts I completely agree with your stance on the music, it is lifeless and I too would like to see/hear work on a broader range of songs, but I still think most people who are starting out are going to have to work on music like that from their clients. Even super well known and well off producers have had to and still sometimes have to work on shitty pop music in order to make their living. Sucks that many people don’t even have the attention span for a melody that doesn’t repeat every second nowadays. I’m jealous you got to work on music in those times, I imagine it was a beautiful time to be alive
@@queenpurple8433 Yeah, I have good memories of it all. Now, of course, the possibilities are endless but it's a double-edged sword. When something doesn't sound right the tendency is to grab a plugin in the often misguided belief that it will solve all your problems. I (we) had to make sure the problems weren't there to begin with. Today, the tempo's wonky? Quantise to the grid! The part's hard to play? Get it played once decently, quantise and loop it! Drums sound shitty? Grab some samples! And the end-result is a bunch of metronomic, generic crap that makes me wanna blow chunks. Listeners have been subjected to this mulch for the last 20-30 years and have been pretty much conditioned to like it. All part of the dumbing-down of society in general. You have to ask yourself, are any of these productions going to stand the test of time? I say, nyet. And, yes, I'm off on an uncontrolled yet somehow justifiable rant. Please just tune me out if you don't like it. Like I said, I'm old and cranky.
Meg Watts no trust me I feel where you’re coming from completely. I’m 25 but I still agree and have seen the dumbing down a lot even in my life so far
Can you just make 4 bar loop next time. It s a little annoying
nothing special