Nice seeing someone hacking wakeboard boots. After 3 pairs of rads I gave up on Slingshot boots, despite loving their K9 fix system (The complexity does not bother me, and I love the flexibility allowing to fine tune position: it gives you an almost-flextrack precision in stance width even on boards with not that many inserts,, and add centering adjustment as a bonus) and also the gummy straps. However, their fit went from tight but OK in 2020/2021 to too small and painfull in 2022 when they added the second gummy strap, on the same size same model. The front of the shoe got too narrow for me and has a painful pressure point near the new gummy strap. But the main reason is that they are too fragile: I teared off the liner at the heel after one cable season on each pair (maybe after 20 times 2h), and pulled off the boot from the base one my second pair (really bad suction on a backroll, even submarining, but the boot should handle that if it happen especially as it cost me a boot on one side and a knee ligament on the other side). Soo many riders got boot/base separation toward the heel after 1 or 1.5 season at my local cable that it can be considered an inherent flaw, not a freak failure: boot/base stiching/gluing is weak. I went to a more traditional boot, with much less adjustment but better fit, lighter and hopefully more durable (I think it will be, I got a crash that would have teared my rad off it's base almost for sure hand here the boot didn't flinch, contrary to my ankle ;-) ). However, I miss the gummy straps (new boots have a velcro strap, very well positioned on the boot, but velcro is not as nice as gummy strap: it does not stay tight), so I think of a hack getting the straps from my destroyed rad to replace the velcro of the new boot. Waiting for the end of warranty of my new boots to try, if I manage to do this boot transplant surgery cleanly enough I may post the result ;-)...
Yeah I noticed the Rads fit smaller than my spacemob shell with the same internal liner. That is a bummer though that you’ve had so many issues with them. Which traditional boot did you end up switching to? I think hacks are worth it especially if you don’t have a ton of money wrapped up in them. Agree the gummy straps are nice.
@@LifetimeShred DUP costa, their boot with lace and non-removable liner (Yep I'm very old school (and also very old - period ;-) ), I like walkable liner when walking back to the dock, but absolutely hate the sensation swimming with those...and I like the strong lock-in feeling provided by good sized fixed liner, something I never really found on removable liner or worse, system bindings. DUP Costa feel nice after 1 session, contrary to the rad they fit larger so better to downsize a little bit compared to shoes, which my vendor correctly advised. They are very light and with nice support, the velcro is used to keep your heel down rather that tighten the boot....But traditional base, so the positioning is not as flexible as I loved on the rad....
I did the same (but more carefully and reversible:)) with my KTV a year ago. I managed to get out the inner liner (using heat gun and patience:)) with a minimal damage. Added laces hooks for 20$ in a shop. Covered velcro with another velcro(soft part). Works just great and reversible (just remove velcro cover and laces and put it together).
Nice. I tried a hair dryer but wasn’t getting anywhere. Probably need a legit heat gun to do it that way and a lot of patience haha. For the $170 I was in on them i’m happy with where I ended up. Feels perfect with the liner in.
@@danielgov8015 which ronix binding? If it is one of the ones with individual sizes, I would get the same size as your Ronix. For example, I ride a size 9 us mens in both the slingshot rad/space mob and ronix one.
@@LifetimeShred The Ronix Atmos model, I saw on the size charts of Ronix and Slingshot that the CM is entirely different based on each size. On Ronix Atmos I wear size US 11
@@danielgov8015 im not as familiar with the atmos. What does your foot measure from heel to tip of longest toe in cm? Best way to measure is pit down sheet of paper against a wall, stand on it with heel against the wall, make longest toe with a pencil. Then measure edge of paper to that line. Need to make sure heel and paper are tight against the wall though.
nah. don't. i tried - the 2023 space mob liner barely fits into 2023 rad shell when you try to squeeze it in with hands. if on foot - it just doesn't fit in. not working. glued the liner back. just buy stock space mob or 2025 rad and sell the pre-2025 rad's.
What size do you have? I know with my 9s I think the actual shell slingshot uses is 8-10. Wonder if the fit becomes a bigger issue if you are at the top of the shell size. I’ve ridden the ones I did a few times and they feel good. A little more snug in the toe but otherwise normal.
@@LifetimeShredit’s exactly 9. and yes the toe is the biggest issue - I’d need to take off the liner, sit down and squeeze it in with hands and then put my foot back in..
@@FuriousNarim Yeah, I could see that. I have a more narrow foot so didn't impact me as much. That said, I think since the space mob shell has the gummy strap up there it allows that space to open up more, making the Rad feel tighter in comparison. I wonder how the 2025 Rad will fit with the new removable liner.
Nice seeing someone hacking wakeboard boots. After 3 pairs of rads I gave up on Slingshot boots, despite loving their K9 fix system (The complexity does not bother me, and I love the flexibility allowing to fine tune position: it gives you an almost-flextrack precision in stance width even on boards with not that many inserts,, and add centering adjustment as a bonus) and also the gummy straps. However, their fit went from tight but OK in 2020/2021 to too small and painfull in 2022 when they added the second gummy strap, on the same size same model. The front of the shoe got too narrow for me and has a painful pressure point near the new gummy strap. But the main reason is that they are too fragile: I teared off the liner at the heel after one cable season on each pair (maybe after 20 times 2h), and pulled off the boot from the base one my second pair (really bad suction on a backroll, even submarining, but the boot should handle that if it happen especially as it cost me a boot on one side and a knee ligament on the other side).
Soo many riders got boot/base separation toward the heel after 1 or 1.5 season at my local cable that it can be considered an inherent flaw, not a freak failure: boot/base stiching/gluing is weak.
I went to a more traditional boot, with much less adjustment but better fit, lighter and hopefully more durable (I think it will be, I got a crash that would have teared my rad off it's base almost for sure hand here the boot didn't flinch, contrary to my ankle ;-) ). However, I miss the gummy straps (new boots have a velcro strap, very well positioned on the boot, but velcro is not as nice as gummy strap: it does not stay tight), so I think of a hack getting the straps from my destroyed rad to replace the velcro of the new boot. Waiting for the end of warranty of my new boots to try, if I manage to do this boot transplant surgery cleanly enough I may post the result ;-)...
Yeah I noticed the Rads fit smaller than my spacemob shell with the same internal liner. That is a bummer though that you’ve had so many issues with them. Which traditional boot did you end up switching to? I think hacks are worth it especially if you don’t have a ton of money wrapped up in them. Agree the gummy straps are nice.
@@LifetimeShred DUP costa, their boot with lace and non-removable liner (Yep I'm very old school (and also very old - period ;-) ), I like walkable liner when walking back to the dock, but absolutely hate the sensation swimming with those...and I like the strong lock-in feeling provided by good sized fixed liner, something I never really found on removable liner or worse, system bindings. DUP Costa feel nice after 1 session, contrary to the rad they fit larger so better to downsize a little bit compared to shoes, which my vendor correctly advised. They are very light and with nice support, the velcro is used to keep your heel down rather that tighten the boot....But traditional base, so the positioning is not as flexible as I loved on the rad....
I did the same (but more carefully and reversible:)) with my KTV a year ago. I managed to get out the inner liner (using heat gun and patience:)) with a minimal damage. Added laces hooks for 20$ in a shop. Covered velcro with another velcro(soft part). Works just great and reversible (just remove velcro cover and laces and put it together).
Nice. I tried a hair dryer but wasn’t getting anywhere. Probably need a legit heat gun to do it that way and a lot of patience haha. For the $170 I was in on them i’m happy with where I ended up. Feels perfect with the liner in.
Do you think the KTVs would be able to remove the liner?
Yeah, another guy below (@Handyretouch) did similar to a pair of KTVs.
Bro, I couldn’t do that to a pair of $500 Sling bidings😳
I only paid $170 on clearance. If you’re paying full price, I’d just get the space mobs
Hi man, I'm wearing size 44/45 on ronix, what size do you recommend on slingshot bindings?
@@danielgov8015 which ronix binding? If it is one of the ones with individual sizes, I would get the same size as your Ronix. For example, I ride a size 9 us mens in both the slingshot rad/space mob and ronix one.
@@LifetimeShred The Ronix Atmos model, I saw on the size charts of Ronix and Slingshot that the CM is entirely different based on each size. On Ronix Atmos I wear size US 11
@@danielgov8015 im not as familiar with the atmos. What does your foot measure from heel to tip of longest toe in cm? Best way to measure is pit down sheet of paper against a wall, stand on it with heel against the wall, make longest toe with a pencil. Then measure edge of paper to that line. Need to make sure heel and paper are tight against the wall though.
nah. don't. i tried - the 2023 space mob liner barely fits into 2023 rad shell when you try to squeeze it in with hands. if on foot - it just doesn't fit in. not working. glued the liner back. just buy stock space mob or 2025 rad and sell the pre-2025 rad's.
What size do you have? I know with my 9s I think the actual shell slingshot uses is 8-10. Wonder if the fit becomes a bigger issue if you are at the top of the shell size. I’ve ridden the ones I did a few times and they feel good. A little more snug in the toe but otherwise normal.
@@LifetimeShredit’s exactly 9. and yes the toe is the biggest issue - I’d need to take off the liner, sit down and squeeze it in with hands and then put my foot back in..
@@FuriousNarim Yeah, I could see that. I have a more narrow foot so didn't impact me as much. That said, I think since the space mob shell has the gummy strap up there it allows that space to open up more, making the Rad feel tighter in comparison. I wonder how the 2025 Rad will fit with the new removable liner.
I'm suing you, Rich! Just damaged these damn boots! Oh wait, I don't ride cable. Never mind, LOL!
Don’t ride cable yet***. Haha