Jim Ross shoots on WHY he never went to TNA
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- Опубликовано: 9 авг 2021
- For over forty years Jim Ross has been the Voice of Wrestling. From starting as referee in the regional territories to becoming the Executive Vice President for WWE, nobody has a story quite like Jim Ross. From recruiting and hiring some of the biggest superstars in the industry to providing the soundtrack for the most important moments in wrestling history, “Good Ole JR” was there for it all. Join us every Thursday morning as Conrad Thompson grills JR like you’ve never heard before, uncut and uncensored!
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everyone tells the same story: dixie asked me to fix the company but wouldn't give me the actual power to do it.
“Just because I’m old and on a diet, doesn’t mean I can’t look at the menu.” LoL. God bless you JR !
Sounds like TNA wanted his name and reputation, without letting him do his job.
Sounds like TNA
Sounds like AEW now
@@mistanderson in what way? JR is in AEW specifically because he does get to do his job his way.
@@PtolemyJones JR is in aew because he got a massive pay cheque from tony khan,he just told you on this video! i have respect for ross but he whines and winges about all sorts first it was passed over at wcw then it was treated wrong at wwe so if his aew tenure comes to an end what will it be then!
TNA really could have been AEW and sad the company never flourished. If I was a billionaire I would have bought TNA but would have immediately changed the name to a more modern wrestling name.
I think JR would have done well any place he goes to, he has that talent.
If he was giving what he needed they wanted him for all his contacts but didn't wanna give him what he needed
Yes yes yes yes
Including nfl
"GOOD GAWD OL MIGHTY, HE KILLED HIM!!"
"Just 'cuz I'm old and on a diet, doesn't mean I can't look at the menu."
LMFAO!
Not gonna lie Jim Ross would've made a great addition to TNA
far better fit for him than aew.
@@TroystonB maybe, but his call on the Cody v black finish was a classic
@@TroystonB disagree aew is not filled with politicians backstage like tna, they had great talent but they had a lot of toxic factors in that company hence why they only went so far.
@@chozahfearless7524 the politics is inevitable and will start in aew too in time especially if they bring in more big names. not enough spots for everyone to be on top.
@@steveb9713 that was the kind of match that jim is perfect for. he was clearly embarrassed to be associated with the jericho gage match though. aew is all over the place and most of it is shit.
I believe with the roster TNA had pre hogan Era that Jr could have done well
But again, money was the issue.
Agree.
2004-2009 was best period in TNA if hogan/bischoff never came there and if dixie carter/vince russo were kept out of creative/booking/title changes and kept out of hiring and firing, jeff jarrert and dutch mantel (with jim cornette) ran creative/booking/title changes, hiring and firing, kept mike tenay/don west on announcing jeremy borash doing interviews, kept 2 hours prime time on spike tv and still kept getting bob carter/panda energy money, kept the x division going how it was originally intended, kept working with new japan pro wrestling and ring of honor tna could've of eventually got bigger
@@lumpencelt3318 geez, basically if EVERYTHING about TNA was different and it happened in this super-specific set of circumstances, they could eventually see a bit of success lol
@@lumpencelt3318 you cant just call this era "best period" and then proceed to mention 15 things that were wrong with that time period in TNA
TNA wanted Paul Heyman, as well. However, Heyman didn't want so many old wrestlers.
“By Gawd, thats…that’s Kurt Angle…in the impact Zone !”
Jr: STONE COLD STONE COLD STONE COLD
Tony: It's STING
Joey Styles: OH MY GAWD !!!!!!
Michael Cole: is that... it is its Him! (obviously)
Well JR you earned that right. You bring things to the table.
The problems were that TNA was bringing TOO many former WWE/WCW/ECW guys in 2010. They didn't need Balls Mahoney, Blue World Order, Tracey Smothers, Shannon Moore, Orlando Jordan, Sandman, Sabu, Axl Rotten, Nasty Boyz. ALL those performers had their Moment. It was TIME to build up Somoa Joe, AJ Styles, Beer Money inc, Daniels and pass the Torch!
Hmmmmmm Sounds like AEW
@@mistanderson yes it does but at the same time isn't it a good thing that you bring in WWE main stars to relieve the aew main stars for a time being just to give him a little bit of break time with their families personal life?
Tna around 2005 up to about 2010 was red hot, I think JR could had a huge impact no pun intended lol on the company.
@Big Daddy WWE was more popular, it has always been. That doesn't mean TNA wasn't a good less known wrestling program back then. Also, while they did have a lot of ex-WWE wrestler in their roster, it was guys like AJ Styles, Samoa Joe and Christopher Daniels that were carrying the company
I love that JR used my favorite quote about looking at the menu 🤣
Right on Jim! You dodged a lot of bullets and I'm happy for you.
I like Jim's honesty! He is a good businessman!
Bottom line..TNA management would have not allowed JR or Heyman to Have it their way..
And now they have to hope this AEW things works out for them 💀
Well they let hogan and Bischoff have it there way so I doubt it.
TNA was killing it back in 2010 pre the Hogan/Bischoff debacle, I feel things would've been different if JR. was there instead.
If only Heyman was hired as well! What a missed opportunity for TNA
Shoulda gave Heyman the keys and said take us to the promised land.
I agree. At one point in history TNA had better in ring talent and better matches than WWE.
@Redbo Black would’ve been better for the program than Bischoff and Hogan!
If all those talents are clearly over it, then you should be too! Word of advice 👌🏼
@Redbo Black diarrhea or not, it’s all just speculation at this point.
We’ll never know if Paulie would’ve recreated the Montreal Screwjob or bring back way past their prime talent like the Nasty Boys or allow Jeff Hardy to go to the ring when he could barely stand. Just my opinion, but glad we had this talk 👍🏼
The Twitter crowd must be giving JR a rough time. Not us Tubers though. JR and Conrad are the best.
JR is the absolute best. I love that guy
JR to wrestling is like a Big John or a Rogan to mma. Woulda done fine anywhere just by being so liked and respected by the audience of the content
Hogan killed that company. It was going along quite well until him and Bischoff came in, they had a cool product. Suddenly there's too many Hogan boys and WWE rejects. The TNA originals began to struggle for tv time and ended up poached by WWE or NJPW. Impact really sucks now.
“Hogan boys” 🤣🤣 I’m dead 😂😂
How long has JR been smoking again? I knew he quit before. Hope everything is okay.
Good 'ol JR saying so much about AEW is making me want to follow now, so good to know he was positive and happy about it, perhaps I must tune in now....
JR has to be the most humble and introspective individuals in Pro Wrestling..even when he is on stage with Corny..watch his reaction (or lack threreof) when Corny goes off. He is measured, analytical, then speaks! No emotion, straight up class and professionalism!
I love how JR recognizes that a 20 min flight is just insane and way out of line for regular folks. Tells you everything about how the company you're dealing with is run....
I've made that flight a few times, and I make that drive often,I can tell you for a fact that 20-30 min flight is waaaay better than that 3-3 1/2 hour drive!!!!
lol TNA sends a car for a 2 and a half hour car ride, oh look at how TNA treated a mid 60's Jim Ross . TNA puts him on a 20 minute flight oh look how stupid TNA was?! They can't win!
@@Dwight_Chayer used to do the same thing from San Jose to LA
6:13 “A real EVP” Shots fired 💥 God, I love J.R. 😆
I went to OU, too bad I was out of the wrestling news at the time. Would have loved to been able to go to JR'S place when it was open
Tony Kahn basically is collecting toys but they are alive
It's because JR knew the company was shit so he used the same excuse Paul Heyman did to get out of accepting the offer
Jim Ross would have put TNA sky high. It certainly would have benefited TNA to have Jim Ross as vice president
we all love and respect you for helping AEW
Its decisions like not hiring JR is exactly why their no longer around.
Tna is still around they've just rebranded themselves as impact wrestling.
I had no idea that JR smokes. Just looks funny.
This was the comment I was looking for. My thoughts exactly. "Is he smoking a pre roll?"
@@tylerwilliams405 haha no idea. Whatever it is, he seems to be enjoying it.
TNA pre Hogan era was fun and very entertaining. Solid talent and Hogan was not needed along with his entourage.
I heard it was cause hogan told Dixie that good ole jr couldn’t “cut the mustard”.
I don't doubt you at all Hogan and his cronies screw up everything first wcw then tna
I feel like I don’t even need to watch this video to know why JR didn’t go to TNA.
Glad he agreed to go to AEW, and it was nice to hear why.
TNA is AEW
JR would've elevated TNA immensely.
Just because I'm old and I'm on a diet doesn't mean i can't look at the menu 😆.
Conrad, I know you probably wont see this, but do you guys do refinancing?
JR is too real
Makes a lot of sense, What JR asked for was reasonable for someone with his status and body of work in the wrestling business
Yes if he was going stick his neck out and put his name on the line he needed control they didn't just want him to be a anouner they wanted his contacts and him to get contracts with wrestlers done
@@Smart-Towel-RG-400
For sure
They didn’t wanna tell JR about Hogan’s contract because she knew she was overpaying him
Had jr went there it would have made them real
you are not gonna audit me brother!
JR was past his prime. Clear as day on commentary now and he was the one who thought Parker Beudreux was the next Brock Lesnar. He wouldn’t have been able to make a dent in tna
When TNA was actually doing okay financially (if they ever were), the Monday Night Wars were still fresh and a lot of the guys who were WCW lifers (or in Jim Cornette's case, NWA lifers) were still there if WWF/E, rightly or wrongly, didn't want them. JR had kind of a falling out of sorts with WCW, and Vince hired him and rehired after his stint in SMW, so I'm sure there was some loyalty there, even if the product he was calling was going down the tubes. And by the time he decided to actually leave the company, TNA was a shell of its former self.
Everyone needs to tailgate at The Grove for SEC game at least once.
“Welcome folks to Monday night impact”
TNA also didn’t have the exact Tv deal at AEW has. I think that played a role in a lot of things that went wrong with TNA. You gotta have the TV to let JR really do his deal. But I’m sure that he spot on about the creative control as well. One of Dixie’s flaws and I love her dearly. I think she gave up creative control to the wrong people obviously Kurt being one of them
Jr and Mike tenay would have been great
has Conrad lost a bit of weight? And by a bit I mean quite a good bit?
Are you trying to be funny? Well pally your not.
Tna was great the first 5 years but Hogan bishop Russo nash killed it like wcw
Smart man
That's business acumen for ya.
I wonder if Conrad can go a couple minutes without browsing his computer while interviewing someone.
I think it's a menu.
@@VitZ9 "I'll have two #9s, a #9 large, a #6 with extra dip, a #7, two #45s-one with cheese-and a large soda."
@@FforFake
Hahaha, nice! 😆 All he had to do was follow the damn diet plan CV, but he got caught up in the money and the power.
No disrespect to JR, he's the greatest wrestling commentator ever but TNA didn't need to fix their commentators. Tenay and West and later Taz were great. I doubt that Ross at that time would've done any better of a job than Tenay.
As an office guy, he'd have been a huge help but like Jim explains, the Carters basically live in cloud cuckoo land. Corny and Bruce have some stories about that - Dixie getting the pick of the WWE roster as a trade for Flair going to the HoF and choosing Christian because she liked to talk to him about cats, Dixie emptying the entire Knockouts locker room because she wanted to get her makeup done in there for a 2 minute appearance etc.
I hear ya bout the grove but Louisiana state says hello
Im glad. JR didnt go to tna..it would have been disasterous...but if they would have gave JR what he wanted maybe just maybe Tna might have been real good...
Dont smoke JR, it's not healthy!
Sad part was the talent in Impact at that time was really solid
Cuz they didn’t offer him enough cash
Did i just see JR hit a cigarette ?
I was today years old when I found out JR smokes cigs
I don't understand why people bleep out every cuss word except for the only one that makes most of the people I have ever known cringe the hardest, G Damn.
TNA had Mike Tenay, they never really needed JR.
Imagine if Dixie had given Eric Bischoff (essentially) full control of PR, working with sponsors, tv and ppv networks etc and Jim Ross the old school booking role (talent relations and creative) with Bruce Prichard as his second in command and Jeremy Borash helping.
What would have been the payroll for all of these guys in those positions?
😂 Look at the money they wasted on other things. How much do you think they would have cost and then look at the money TNA lost.
But no, you're right. Better to waste it on former WWE midcarders by the dozens
Bischoff, Prichard and Borash were all there already.
Ya, I'll bet JR get's a "nice escort" when he goes to the grove.
I believe the answer is in the thumbnail 😂
I wonder how long until we see a headline that reads, "JR on going to TNA: Why would I want to get into that shithole"
Well at least we got josh matthews...😅😅😅😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭😭😭☠
Is JR smoking a cigar, or what ?
lol i thought it might have been a cigarette, didnt even know he smoked!!!!
Dixie carter is why the word milf exists
There it is! I was kind of waiting for Conrad to take this from ‘tell us about TNA’ to ‘how can we use this to make AEW sound better’. Conrad loves anything that isn’t WWE. Tried watching AEW and no thank you.
So he didn’t want to go in and fight for control and he wanted more control.
So give him more control
I wish JR was as blunt and direct as Cornette at times like these. He chooses his words far too carefully. It basically sounds like he didn't want to work with idiots like Russo and politicians like Hogan and Bischoff.
TNA was doing well as a 1 hour show. Why do wrestling shows not stick to the 1 hour format. Less is always more.
The one-hour format is so 1995 before that. You need a 2 hour show
Jim Ross = no fucks given
We all know Conrad isn't saving food
But some how some way Impact or TNA is still around.
They had some good talent but there was no direction
Ummmm. Money and Security and respect
Tna impact
Sir, YOU’RE the reason I tune into AEW. Hell you were why I was watching WWE.
Rumor has it Dixie Carter has the "warm and fuzzy", if you know what I mean? And, she's a redhead too.
The boys REALLY enjoyed her company after the matches.
It's okay to fantasize and project your inner desires onto her..But it's sad because she genuinely gave people opportuniteis to put food on their family's tables. She was an understanding boss who hesitated to fire people or let people go because she knew it would effect their livelihood. Instead of recognizing her for that, you guys would rather masturbate to a locker room fantasy w/ a 60 year old woman. Sad. No wonder she ghosted the wrestling industry and won't appear in interviews. The sadder thing is, you guys are more turned on by the prospect of seeing dozens of rasslers naked and in sexual situations more than you are of Dixie. Dixie is just the means to an end, a vehicle to see your favorite rasslin men. Keep God first and maybe the constant visions of locker rooms full of sexualized wrestlers will disappear.
Well, there are many more similar rumors about Stephanie that can be proven, and only a few “possible” instances with Dixie. My opinion, it’s like believing New Jack’s Terri stories? Do you?
@@sabot4ge the sad thing is she ran TNA into the ground. Hiring Russo and having him book the show into the drizzling shits. Being afraid to fire guys? What kind of Boss is that. Vince is successfull because he's all about the WWE and isn't afraid to let people go.
@@sabot4ge She also flat out TOOK FOOD from peoples tables with her dumb business decisions and her desire to live out this fantasy of being some super hott super rich super desirable MILF type.
Also it’s no one “fantasy” here for Dixie Carter. It’s just been stated by many wrestlers and those whom worked behind the scenes that Dixie was getting it on with the wrestlers.
So yeah, she might have originally given people opportunities, but she also totally ran her own company into the ground.
Cash + Creative
It’s the same reason why he never went to wcw pay wasn’t as good as it was in wwe
I know you're not supposed to say this but JR makes smoking look really cool
I remember years ago reading a post right here on RUclips where someone posted a prediction that “TNA will one day buy out the WWE.”
Still to this day one of the dumbest things I’ve ever read on RUclips and yes I told him that’s a stupid prediction back than too, 😂.
Impact is still around...like a zombie. It won't die or go away. They still have a chance...😆
I don’t remember that..
more along the lines that it will beat monday night raw in ratings after a while.
TNA needed a marketing team. It was good but it has zero advertising ability.
Jr 🚬
She is such an easy lay
The biggest mistake TNA ever made. Had they hired JR they would have been saved. Now AEW hired JR, but are they listening to him? I doubt it. But what do I know?
Big mistake by TNA
So he didn't want to go to TNA because of creative control but goes to aew with evps with tons of creative control. Sounds like it just came down to getting more money than anything.
If they had paid him he would have gone.
Hotty Toddy
Of course it’s all about money duh
The irony of JR talking about being a real EVP while the company he currently works for has 3 dead weight EVPs
Which 3? I feel like all the EVPs but Kenny Omega bring something to the table as promotors.
@@MrTambourineMan. Cody's the most useful. The Bucks contribute more trash than good
It's clearly an e cigarette, calm down you bunch of fuss pots. Even if it was a cigarette he was smoking who cares?