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- Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
- Paint Perspective Podcast episode 53, featuring our experience at the UK's biggest hobby games convention - UK Games Expo!
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This week, we went to the biggest UK hobby games convention: UK Games Expo!
In this episode we discuss our experiences at the event as both seasoned visitors and newcomers, share our tips for future attendees and share some fun stories from the weekend!
Also this week James shares some rare book finds, Joe continues to plan his Dark Angels army and of course review your submissions for #AdeptusMaychanicus!
Don’t forget our question of the week, which tackles colour theory (and where to start) as well as a “wild” hobby hack on tank weathering!
Chapters: (Main topic around 38 mins)
0:00:00 Intro
0:00:22 Painting Split Colour Space Marines
0:05:05 James LOST the bet
0:09:18 Warboot June!
0:15:29 RARE Warhammer book haul
0:30:35 Base rims… again
0:31:46 Vallejo rebrand
0:34:48 Paul Perspective
0:36:49 Podcast Reviews
0:37:41 UK Games Expo REVIEW
0:42:53 The Colour Forge stand
0:46:59 Meeting the listeners
0:50:49 George got tackled (nearly)
0:52:03 George got heckled (actually)
0:55:45 The UKGE experience
0:59:22 Hobby shopping
1:04:42 UKGE 2025...
1:09:28 #AdeptusMaychanicus
1:15:40 Question of the Week
1:21:35 Hobby Hack
1:23:51 Outro Развлечения
Joe basically said "the real Dark Angels army, is the friends we made along the way"
It was great to see you all at the Expo and thanks for the shout-out 🙏🏾
Not sure if this is the best place to leave a review, but here goes.
Painting perspective is, for me, the penultimate combination of humor, intelligent discourse, relatable levels of 40k fanaticism, and realistic painting advice. I don't gravitate towards overly crass or loud commentary, but do appreciate the lovable sarcasm you have each other with. Thank you for being my virtual 40k friends as there aren't many in the remote area of Idaho where I live.
Your pragmatic advice has also helped me balance my approach to painting. You helped me realize its perfectly fine to use brand X and Y together to beat achieve my goals. I didn't have to go all-in on either team like some IG videos may suggest.
Anyway, painting perspective is the best content I consume on a weekly basis. Thank you and keep up the great work!
Hey lads, I was listening to the podcast while painting my Repulsor Executioner. When the hobby hack bit came at the end I paused, looked at my cat and I think she understood cause she bolted to the other side of the house.
Always a good day when the new pod drops
Has anyone called it a drop-podcast yet? xD
1:10 the dog ate my chaplain segment of the show
Yoooooo Joe bringing up Hatebreed! I still have a CD of "Perseverance" in my car
I love listening to you guys while I paint. Great personalities and I always get a tip or trick to take away. Cheers from America.
James I am with you with not putting on any pressure! I was trying to rush my Cities of Sigmar so I could get them done before AOS 4 comes out, before realizing that the stress wasnt enjoyable nor was it producing results! better to take your time. plus you re busy af anyway :P
Finally caught up! I've worked in neuroscience research the last 5 years and made a career shift. Never had time to to hobby or much else while in research while the shame built up. This podcast has been a great motivator to and its great to hear about the struggles of finishing up a miniature and perhaps one day an army. Time poor is a great descriptor, though I have started enjoying the feeling of taking my time. Great tool and paint insights and has had me dive into color theory and different paint mediums. George you have at least one base rim ally here in Brooklyn, Joe has my full support in the first and best legion, and James if you can drill your barrels like that you may have a potential future in brain surgery, power tools are the way!
It's become a highlight of my week to get the discord notification that you've dropped a new video.
You're all so casual about all these amazing paint jobs but make it seem achievable in how you explain yourselves and the methods (and process) used, and never shy away from the truth that it takes time and practice to get there.
I will say though, you really do undersell yourselves almost to a fault, aside from George's sensational blends at least. And sorry Paul, team Joe all the way. I'll keep going with my Dark Angels in solidarity too.
Dude how have I listened to so much of this podcast and didn’t know y’all are hardcore kids
I actually have a cat whisker that my kitty shed on my keyboard that i use for sculpting. It works at giving fur sculpted epoxy putty a nice soft gentle texture.
Love the 'finish my project' optimism. Notice James didn't say in which year the end of June was he's referring to. Very enjoyable as ever, thanks.
I have been out of the hobby for just over a year....3 videos into the back catalogue and I've just dropped £90 on the start of a new Iron Warriors project...you heroes. Patreon signed up for and looking forward to power drilling barrels, painting a Sherman with potatoes and the room smelling like a 'clean linen' IKEA fishbowl candle!
Hi guys, love the pod! I know you keep talking about Vallejo and AK primer but I have found something I believe to work more effectively out of a spray can. It is Mr Hobby Aqueos Black 1000. It goes on almost like a lacquer with a super smooth finish. Well worth a try!
My god, the four horus heresy art books are simply jaw dropping. Shame I live right up in Yorkshire. Here's hoping you manage some other locations one day 😲
Have just gotten into this podcast and love it. Haven’t come across another with the kind of in-depth painting content/advice that’s presented. One question I have for you as commission painters: do you ever feel like you don’t want to part with the minis you’ve painted for clients? I’ve occasionally done commissions for friends and I absolutely hate the part where I have to give it back! And every time I’ve sold my own minis, I always end up regretting it down the track
Mead is great. Straight forward to make at home without issue.
Congratulations on the 53rd episode anniversary, lads! May you reach 54!
I use cat whiskers for scratches and dotting eyes, I've found using the fine end better for scratches and the end that would have been in the cats face for eyes.
I tend to find discarded ones around their water dish and scratching posts. Tape the whisker to a paintbrush handle or pencil for better control.
was good to see u guys
You too Moggy, will be ace to hang out at Spiel!
@SiegeStudios looking forward to see u there defo hangout
Fun fact: you can also make nice curved strings of thin blood using cat whiskers and hair as a base (David Nield told me that's how he achieved the effect on one of his Golden Demon winners!)
In regard to the airbrush primers for your general consideration, Vince Venturella has been really liking the Pro Acryl ones for a while now. Might be worth to throwing in the mix for your testing, I’ve heard good things. Great episode as always thanks guys!
I'm doing a new colour scheme for my green Dark Angel intercessors atm and it's the most enthusiastic and motivated I've been for ages. I'm trying to paint one squad of marines to my highest ability, each one and not get burnt out so far I'm going well and powering through, but I love this new colour scheme and it's really helping to keep Mr going. I'm doing a darker green to the usual Eavy Metal one, I've realised I hate Moot Green. Starting with black, green black then using a mix of caliban green and Boreal Green from Scale75. Cautious edge highting with Sons of Horus green.
Raven Guard, yay! I'm intending to apply for a job with you guys, just so in the interview I can take you through all of my painted Raven Guard army in excruciatingly boring black and white detail! :P
I'm guessing James & George will have already tried these aspects as far as primer goes. But just on the off chance:
For ideal adhesion the surface needs to be thoroughly clean and dry, the presence of moisture, dust & oils/grease (thinking what our skin excretes) will adversely affect adhesion.
As little additive (flow improver, thinner, retarder etc) as possible needs to be used for ideal adhesion. Where used, using additives from the same product line as the primer itself will provide the best results.
ps.. we need some AOS content :P can James paint a stormcast eternal in a blood angel colour scheme perhaps?
Can he? Yes!. Will it ever get finished? Don't count on it...
Enjoying this series, I put it on while painting
You should make a T-shirt with a small Siege symbol the size of Fred Perry / Lyle & Scott etc etc.
So as a life long Blood Angels player Joe has finally gotten me to commit an act of Heresy. After looking at all the Dark Angels sculpts I am now working on a Dark Angels army for my son. I have managed to pick up Lion EL' Johnson, Lazarus, Belial, Azrael and a box of DeathWing Knights so far... time to get started. I am sticking with the founding chapter colors because while the angles of redemption paint scheme is cool... I am just not going to do that over an entire army... I mean I still get to paint the beautiful bone armor on the Deathwing and then the traditional dark angels green on the rest.... and since its for my son maybe it is less of a heretical move... or I am just in denial... either way I am having fun and that is what it is all about... after his army is done I will get back to the red and black paint scheme....
Oh my god... I have a copy of james' Holy Grail book.
Also got copies of The Emperor's Might & The Horus Heresy Collected Visions.
Angels of redemption is such a cool and surprisingly okay scheme to paint, I'm pretty naff as a painter and still enjoy painting them. -- Didnt apprececiate the Angels of Redemption being sorta dunked on in "Lion Son of the Forst" though 😂
I reckon he would go well priming with a vallejo bone color primer and then using dark angels contrast on half the model
End of the year, you could do a hobby hack award of the year - blind audience voting, reveal the answer live. The yearly hack off
To be fair to James, every Subway I have gone to has at least one vegan option, so it makes sense to me to queue up without checking the menu first.
index astartes in the white dwarf ❤
I wonder if the primer not sticking has to do with not washing after assembly. The oils from our skin might cause adhesion issues.
I'm hoping for a come from behind victory for James by getting to 1000 points of Mordians with a pair of Baneblades.
Yes my rule bend worked thanks for the 10 lads 😉
The Vellejo Airbrush primer does not work for me. It keeps rubbing off so easy, but when I spray with a rattle can I have much better luck.
Both the valljeo lines had a reformulation, the game color and model color line, and they changed 30 colors in the model color range. The new once are way better, and both lines are out so the old once should be at a discount now if you want them
For question of the week! How do you go about gap filling, and is this a process you would take on your average marine? I've been using plastic cement for a good while now and had to test a few because some are too strong and melt the seams or then bulge out the fresh plastic lava. Been more reserved with my cement but still working on the sweet spot for gaps
I would love to back the campaign. Was going to the minute i could, but its not available to ship to the USA. If you guys csn get Colour Forge to work it out, making it available to more than the UK im sure you will see a spike.
gotta say I'm a bit dissapointed the colour forge kickstarter was only for the UK, was looking forward to trying them out with the special colours from all the various channels I actually watch, maybe I'm destined to migrate to the UK
I just got in the post a new brand Model Colour 950 Black.......it is a new formula according to RUclips. I would love to say it's not Matt but I haven't tried it yet.
Hey guys, I've recently been put on to the podcast and absolutely love it to listen to while I'm working, with Hatebreed being mentioned, I wondered if you guys had any underground HC (UK or non-Uk) recommendations to listen to while painting? Keep it up, you've inspired me to pick up the brush again after my sea of grey felt too overwhelming for a time.
I could do a whole episode on this but I don't think they'll let me so I'm making a rare appearance in the comments section. I dunno specifically about listening while painting, BUT, for current underground straightforward HC atm you gotta be looking at anything on Quality Control Records and Northern Unrest Records (Splitknuckle, Nothin But Enemies, Hellbound, Demonstration of Power, Despize, Dynamite). Then some slightly more known stuff would be Speed, Zulu, Higher Power, Jesus Piece, Pain of Truth. And that's barely scraping the surface. HC is in a good place right now!
Not the most lore savvy, but I'm pretty sure 'Red Wings' are Blood Angels successors. Would be a shame to paint 1000p in a "wrong" scheme :D
The airbrush primers mostly all suck. They are very fragile and will come of at the slightest scratch. Even just handling it can sometimes scratch or peel. There is just no substitute for a rattlecan primer. There is some kind of hardener in it that makes it bond so much h better. I've tried Vallejo, Stynlrez, by Badger and Army Painter.
In 6 months green stuff world will have a jar of "weathering whiskers" for $25.
ive never got airbrush primer to work. ive tried multiple vallejo, ak, its all been rubbish and just rubs off the model. chaos black or mechanicus grey rattle cans work every time, ive given up even trying to make the airbrush work for it.
Does James have any good recommendations for Vegan friendly brushes?
Do you consider an army to be a certain number of points, like 1000 or 2000 points? Then you are done with that army and move on to another project? Or do you continually add to each army that you own? I have a large collection of space marines that am always adding new units to. On top of that I collect 4 other factions in 40k. I don't look any one and think "okay, now I'm done with that one"
Can confirm that things from 1992 will have some spine issues
AK primer I found pretty bad. The Ammo one shot is brilliant
I bought one bottle of AK primer, and it had little chunks of paint in it about the size of granulated sugar. How am I supposed to shoot that through my airbrush? Weird too, because their products are usually top quality.
I've got 3 cats and am willing to part with their whiskers for the right price. Hit me up!
Another hobby hack involving animals, who needs a vortex mixer when you can just tie a pot of paint to your dog’s tail. Set it off and hey presto! That 30 year old paint is ready to go. (P.S this is a joke, you probably don’t want to do this as the RSPCA might call round or your dog might eat and then regurgitate paint over your carpet) (P.P.S would Papa Nurgle be happy if the dog did this?)
Do you throw away models? Not just ones you have painted, but maybe some that you have built and sprayed, but maybe overspayed it and its lost detail. Or maybe some that you tried a technique on and abandoned the idea, so now the model is just taking up shelf space. Or do you keep absolutely everything that you have painted/built?
So many cats will suffer because of this....don't pluck whiskers it's really painful and it's just plastic toy soldiers 😅 use an f-ing decent brush. Which came From a murdered mink....