@@steveb9713 yeah but the problem with the Leafs is they all have no movement clauses and we are stuck with a core (well at least for 1 more anyway) who only won 1 playoff round in 8 years which is embarassing .
There's no way they're starting over. Fielding a team with no-names isn't going to fill the dome or pay off the $300 million stadium renovations. I see them re-tooling and swapping out pieces. The talent is there. But the mentality is not.
agree - this would not be the ideal timing, but their plan was not to be in last place and basically need a rebuild. This team s going nowhere fast. it is another indication at the colossal failure and incompetence of Shapiro and his friends.
This is my biggest fear.... they did nothing last winter..... they need to at least trade most of the guys who are expiring this year for what they can get. Kikuchi should bring a good haul, Turner should get something in return, Get what they can for Kiermier and maybe trade Yimi Garcia too.... might as well. I'd sign Danny Jansen...it would be hard to get a better catcher..... but for the right trade.... I guess he can go to. I'd try to sign Vlad.... and see how Bo does until Winter....
I know what to do. Clean sweep Jays management. Pay whatever the Braves want to free Alex Andreopoulos. Re-Hire him as 'King Of The Jays' for 10 years. Wait for the Jays to win the World Series in 4-6 years. Celebrate. ☮
Jays started rebuilding last offseason when they let every free agent go. It’s only the fans who seem surprised by anything that’s been happening, or is going to.
Why does Bob think we need to have to trade for a second baseman? Horwitz has come up and played like an all star second baseman for quite awhile now! This guy is not a flash in the pan like Davis S was.! And JP thinks we can get a brand new Starting five pitching staff if besides our trading Kikuchi, but trade Gausman and Bassitt too? Well we may get some positon players we hope, but who will be our starting pitchers next year besides Rodriguez and Berrois?
you would not get anything of substance back. he may be the worst offensive player in baseball over the past 2 years. it nice that he is good at catching balls in left field, but this is not a skill that is in demand.
time to trade Bichette,he should be at 2nd, he cries if he doesnt play ss,hes a hot dog,when he strikes out his body language says I dont care,get rid of him
bleak is the optimistic outlook. it's worse than that. ownership, front office, manager, lineup. bullpen, minors. all league bottom. there's no tweaking this. if they take another crack at it with Bo and Vlad as the supposed cornerstones it will be a huge mistake. they're both huge disappointments. Bo may be able to hit but he's seriously flawed at everything else and can't be trusted. I want Vlad gone. never winning a thing if you have that personality as your best player - leader.
Bluejays are too corporate to win.Shapiro was brought in to fix the stadium and the minor league facilities.Atkins is a stooge.Rogers is looking to sell the team.
![[4K] Watch SpaceX Catch A Starship Rocket From Space!!! #IFT5](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/pIKI7y3DTXk/mqdefault.jpg)
Shapiro and Atkins will not be fired until the fans stop buying tickets.
Exactly.
This is the second time I have heard Bob say Bichette was an Anthopolous pick. He was a second round pick by Atkins in 2016.
Eric Bishoff scouted him previously for AA.
Is it blow it up time and start over ? The Jays and Leafs had such hope with great young talent and we have nothing to show for it.
Jays are in a far worse spot with no playoff wins or prospects. Leafs actually changed management and jays are stuck with the same bozos
@@steveb9713 yeah but the problem with the Leafs is they all have no movement clauses and we are stuck with a core (well at least for 1 more anyway) who only won 1 playoff round in 8 years which is embarassing .
There's no way they're starting over. Fielding a team with no-names isn't going to fill the dome or pay off the $300 million stadium renovations. I see them re-tooling and swapping out pieces. The talent is there. But the mentality is not.
@@cityandlocalok starters other than that they have nothing any other team wants.
You dare rebuild after the stadium improvements? Not a chance.
should have used the money on team improvements.
agree - this would not be the ideal timing, but their plan was not to be in last place and basically need a rebuild. This team s going nowhere fast. it is another indication at the colossal failure and incompetence of Shapiro and his friends.
The Blue Jays management doesn't have the baseballs to do anything of significance. They are stricken with "paralysis by analysis".
This is my biggest fear.... they did nothing last winter..... they need to at least trade most of the guys who are expiring this year for what they can get. Kikuchi should bring a good haul, Turner should get something in return, Get what they can for Kiermier and maybe trade Yimi Garcia too.... might as well. I'd sign Danny Jansen...it would be hard to get a better catcher..... but for the right trade.... I guess he can go to. I'd try to sign Vlad.... and see how Bo does until Winter....
I know what to do.
Clean sweep Jays management.
Pay whatever the Braves want to free Alex Andreopoulos.
Re-Hire him as 'King Of The Jays' for 10 years.
Wait for the Jays to win the World Series in 4-6 years.
Celebrate.
☮
The blue jay ownership has fooled a lot of people for a long long time.
Similar to the other fruitless team on Bay Street
Finally- some one who gets it !!!! I'm sure yur familiar with the saying - fool me once ? How many foolings are we at now ? Lol
Bo will most likely be traded however with Akins on the way out teams will lowball the jays to take advantage of them rebuilding there office.
Jays started rebuilding last offseason when they let every free agent go. It’s only the fans who seem surprised by anything that’s been happening, or is going to.
A month later I see good players who want to play. Ship Bo to the White Sox and get whatever you can. Stick with what we see now.
JP Morosi is goated with the sauce
Time for the Jays to trade Shapiro and Atkins for a new toilet seat and some used tea bags
last nights loss vs giants was terrible
Why does Bob think we need to have to trade for a second baseman? Horwitz has come up and played like an all star second baseman for quite awhile now! This guy is not a flash in the pan like Davis S was.! And JP thinks we can get a brand new Starting five pitching staff if besides our trading Kikuchi, but trade Gausman and Bassitt too? Well we may get some positon players we hope, but who will be our starting pitchers next year besides Rodriguez and Berrois?
The Jay's could really use guys like Edwin or Marcus Seimien ......oh wait,.......never mind
trade varsho? hes pretty weak offensively but great defensively
you would not get anything of substance back. he may be the worst offensive player in baseball over the past 2 years. it nice that he is good at catching balls in left field, but this is not a skill that is in demand.
Bo doesn't want to be there you can tell by his body language
Trade bob what about bob
time to trade Bichette,he should be at 2nd, he cries if he doesnt play ss,hes a hot dog,when he strikes out his body language says I dont care,get rid of him
Bichette would rather strike out then get walked..
His defence at ss has improved hes not an issue there.
bleak is the optimistic outlook. it's worse than that. ownership, front office, manager, lineup. bullpen, minors. all league bottom. there's no tweaking this. if they take another crack at it with Bo and Vlad as the supposed cornerstones it will be a huge mistake. they're both huge disappointments. Bo may be able to hit but he's seriously flawed at everything else and can't be trusted. I want Vlad gone. never winning a thing if you have that personality as your best player - leader.
Bo is playing like he wants to be traded...real soon.
Bichette doesn't want to be in Toronto!
Here's a better idea....Rogers sell the team.
Bluejays are too corporate to win.Shapiro was brought in to fix the stadium and the minor league facilities.Atkins is a stooge.Rogers is looking to sell the team.
The Jays SUCK. Aikins needs to go.
Hopeless