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What series should I cover next?
Xy. Again. Yes.
Can you Cover Pokemon Advanced? That Pokemon Series is such an Underrated gem.
Do you think Ash will come back Kanto reboot eventually do you think horizons has a future
Maybe Black and White, considering that is the other most controversial arc of the Pokémon anime.
@@mewmewpowergirl1625I think they’ll do something in the future
The main problem with the series is that it didn’t take itself serious. I know pokemon is a kids show but this series felt like the Dora the Explorer. I feel like they should have forgotten about Goh and Chloe and just made Ash do the same thing but in Galar with Hop as he co-protagonist wanting to beat the league and have Ash as his mentor.
I totally agree although I don’t think the series is truly terrible. It does point a bit too safe which can be pretty annoying and they should’ve put a lot of effort into this series focusing on Galar more introducing more Characters from Galar give proper development to Ash Goh Koharu and Ash’s Pokémon Team respect to old Characters returns introducing the DLC traducing Mustard and Peony make Hop and Marnie Ash’s Rivals have the Masters8th play out like the the Johto league since it wasn’t spared by someone who actually did a rewrite on this series
and have Ash use his old Pokémon again since he hasn’t done that since the Sinnoh league were using the nice mixture of both old and new Pokémon teams this would’ve been perfect
Marnie should have been the pokegirl not this no show chole
@@haroldnecmann7040 It would have been so good to have Marnie with the goal of saving her hometown from been forgotten and become a gym leader at the end. Instead we got a random girl indecisive of what’s her goal and then getting one at the end which is the same as her father’s. definitely Chloe was the worst pokegirl.
Gosh was fine imo (Chole was eh, because she could've actually been interesting if she actually got her proper character arc)
Terrible idea pokemon journeys is the best so great
The Reason Why I Hate Journeys Is Because The Series Just Disrespects Both Pokemon And Characters Like Infernape, Alain And Much More.
They even remove Ash Grenninja which pissed me off I classified Journeys None Canon since it doesnt respect anything before it
@@angelozenstories7080 But their bond still stands, besides it was lucarios episode not greninja's, an what use would ash-greninja be in that type of situation
Why Do You Write Like That With The Capital Letters
@@Cozmos_4k Uhhh dude its still unfair to Ash Grenninja when they remove it from the Flashback aka Flashbacks are ment to remind u of something important and what they did was super dumb
Journeys is overrated
And here’s my problem with Pokémon journeys when ash was about to have his big moment with Leno you would think that everyone who traveled with ash would be there in person to watch him
Especially the aloa gang since they were the ones who shaped him to be champion of alola
Yeah, instead they just showed them watching from home
I HATED THAT. Like i understand not getting everyone but WHY THE HELL DID IRIS LEAVE, IRIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE DURING THE FINALS
@@blackoutamvs6550 I know even though during their adventures during unova even though they didn’t get along sometimes at least have the respect to stay and support your friend during their big moment
@@gooey448 hell you would think that out of every one you would think that oak and Delia ash’s mum would come out and support ash in the crowd
@@Pokewho-6475 Exactly, but I sort of understand them, since they had to make a meaningful way to make the older Pokemon watch Ash's win. But it still would have been better if Delia and Oak were at Wyndon
I think a big miss opportunity for Journey's is Galar Region itself. This region feels like a perfect Region for Ash to travel. Gym battles, new Pokemon like Drednaw or Corvaknight, Hop, Marnie and Bede as potential rivals/companions, etc. And if this was a return to form after Sun and Moon slice of life series, I think people can look fondly over it. It's also crazy that its successor 4, Horizons did a better job at being a travel the world series while representing Galar than the Gen 8 anime,
Agreed. It’s crazy that horizons does it better. I think maybe cause it’s episodic in journeys but even then they didn’t travel much
It is tempting for Ash to compete in the Galar League, but the premise as an actual anime would have been seen as desperate. By having Ash compete in the Galar League, it not only undermines Ash's skills as a trainer but it completely ignores the fact that Ash is a Champion. Not to mention that in Sun and Moon, no one told Ash "Go to Galar and compete in the gyms". Olivia told Ash to travel the world to expand his horizons, as stated:
"Getting to know what the world is like is a very important step. You'll have a broader perspective once you expand your horizons. The truth is, it will allow you to look at yourself and find ways you can improve. Right, Ash? As someone who came all the way to Alola to train, you already know that, don't you?" -Olivia, Dreams of the Sun and Moon
It's not even a gen 8 anime at this point, Galar gets barely any action, and ash doesn't get a single galarian starter ;-;
@@saitproject Ash may be champion of Alola but he isn't THE champion because he still had room to grow even after becoming one and there were plenty of trainers like him around outside of Alola. Galar itself felt like the perfect region for Ash after becoming champion, because it was implied lorewise that the Galar gym leaders are stronger than other regions' gym leaders on average, and in Journeys Bea and Raihan are at least on par with the E4 if not champion level. Zactoshi made an amazing rewrite on the Gen 8 anime that follows the same premise you mentioned without undermining Ash's skills or downplaying his champion status.
@@kaffka9221 I did look at Zactoshi's Gen 8 rewrite which is great. But, again, had the actual Gen 8 anime involved Ash competing in the Galar League, then you have a desperate premise because it feels like everyone chose to ignore the fact that Ash won the Alola League, not to mention that Olivia was the one who advised Ash to travel the world (again, no "going to Galar to compete in their gyms" premise anywhere in Sun and Moon nor Journeys). Claiming that "Ash always do Gym Challenges, therefore it is tradition that he continues this quest" when he is already Champion of Alola does not sit well since the formula was getting stale at that point and it undermines Ash's skills. That's like if Cynthia competed in the Unova League despite already being crowned Sinnoh Champion. You can't really answer a question of, "So, it is wrong if Cynthia continued Gym Challenges, but if Ash does compete in Gym challenges, it is automatically fine?" without sounding like a hypocrite. I know Horizons does have Gym Challenges but keep in mind that it's only part of the Terastal Course.
I feel like one of the reasons Journeys is so hated is because of how much potential it had, and how it squandered like 90% of it. Even with the Master’s 8 tournament, Ash’s matches and Iris VS Cynthia are all fantastic battles, with Ash VS Leon being one of the best battles in the series. But pretty much every other fight felt either rushed or unimportant, and it’s still insane how they thought it was a good idea to only let Leon lose like 1 or 2 Pokémon to Alain and Diantha but Ash is somehow able to beat him. Plus all the filler and like 3 recap episodes
TBF ash had a pretty busted team this time around. A mega Lucario,dragonite,strfetched,gengar,dracovish,and a Pikachu who beat fucking tapu koko. Compare that to his x and y team this one is WAYYY stronger
Greninja and goodra were his only carrys in x amd y and mega Charizard loses its fire typing so he ended up just getting stomped for a bad team. He'll he literally had 2 DRAGON TYPES. So I think Allan is overestimated due to his and ash's team during x and y
@@MythicAce218wrong it loses its flying type if it lost ist fire type dawg would be getting bodied by any remotely fast ice types
@@aggresiveiceberglettuce8848 you know i was abt to say hold up because i SWEAR someone told me it lost its fire(because i was told it was neutral(why he lost) and assumed he lost his fire type. thats my bad
Ash should’ve brought back his old Pokemon
The thing is, Ash intended on using one gimmick, but Leon WANTED Ash to use all three
Exactly he did it to himself but i really don’t care ig the writers did that bc it’s ash’s last series 😭
I mean Leon wanted a challange and want to see Ash at his peak of strenght. If Leon won, he could be truely the undefeated champion, who beat all gimmiks on a super strong trainer and still win (like he told us in Sword/Shield after Eternatus).
Was it his downfall? Yes
Was is cool as fck? Heck yes
@@KaiaKaito the most perfect way to say this you’re 100 percent right
And Leon dynamaxed twice so … lmao . 😂 ash was up one gimmick ? lol
@@tomachu7899 They both Gigantamaxed twice.
Let’s be honest. The real reason Goh exists in Pokémon anime was to tie into the Pokemon Goh game which had already been put by 3 years at that point. Which is disappointing in itself when you think about it. Hence his name, “Goh.”
Omfg How did I not notice that
@@Mr.Brothybear you’d be forgiven for not knowing that fact at all. They had to tie in that game somehow.
Oh so that’s why his Pokémon catches were like 100% each time he threw a pokeball at a Pokémon like he rarely if not never failed at catching a Pokémon which always upset me because bro caught Suicune in a regular Pokeball when it’s only status condition was it was poisoned or well hit with toxic but still at least use an ultra ball on it because it is a Legendary Pokémon but no he just chucks a pokeball hits suicune and catches it it didn’t even break out
@@twistedwolf8422 Yep! Unfortunately.
I personally love Chloe's premise. She's someone who's seemingly not interested in Pokémon battles, and she doesn't know what she wants to become, and her journey of discovering herself could have been really interesting.
Also she's an introvert and more relatable to me, as she's not as outgoing and was often annoyed by Ash and Goh's antics.
To have someone who struggles to find their place in the world and is seemingly ostracized for not being into Pokémon battles, with her classmates thinking she's weird and just doesn't like Pokémon at all (which isn't the case), it's interesting.
But then she got Eevee and just became a trainer anyway. Massive wasted potential with Chloe.
Also I *HATE* Journeys Ash. He's an insufferable Mary Sue, that's what he is. And there's nothing I despise more in writing than Mary Sues.
I wouldn't say he's a Mary sue, that role belongs to GO, think about it go has caught and out battle ash, how I don't even know and ash most of the times don't take the leader role even tho he a champion and large amount of experience under his belt, he not a Mary sue her just an post device for the anime when they need it.
@@BlitzGaming654 Normally no, but in Journeys definitly. Despite being an complete idiot even though he shouldn't be at that point, he constantly wins almost everything.
Even in stuff he knows nothing about, like in that cake decoration contest organized by Opal. He clearly had no idea what he was doing and just made a huge pile of decorations.
And yet, he won. He won even though he had no idea what he was doing while Chloe, who was there, clearly knew what she was doing. She should have won.
And this is just one example, there are many others. But I guess it wouldn't bother me as much if the writers didn't make him a complete idiot who doesn't know anything when he's supposed to be experienced with Pokémon.
Like all these moments where he keeps trying to touch Pokémon that are either wild, wary of him, or upset at him. Sometimes they're more than one at a time. He should know not to do that, and yet he does. And everytime they retaliate by attacking him.
@Oceane1803 nothing that you said here proves he a Mary sue tho, more than anything, it just point out more of an idiot he is and the cake competition is not even worth taking about since they didn't make the cakes they just decorate them, you said he wins all time which is not true, he lost to many times, he even went on a losing streak, for ash to be a Mary sue he as to bend the story to him which he just doesn't, he still loses, is not good at everything he touches.
@@BlitzGaming654 Everyone constantly keeps praising him for everything even though he's an idiot though. Well except Chloe for a time.
@Oceane1803 that's more of a reasonable take than just saying he's marysue when he clearly not and I am starting to feel a strange thing with you on Chloe, I know they butched her character, but that's not ash fault, that just bad writing, but one thing I have to say is why are you so hard on ash but goh is much worse, he takes the faults of both Chloe and ash, his character was rushed, he out performs many people in the series which he just shouldn't, makes bad decisions but get rewarded for them, example take the raid battle with articono, refused to listen to gery who had to carry them through the battle, and ash played last wheel in this whole thing, even tho he is spouse to be the strongest. And you say people praise him that's kinda a no-brainer since he is kinda the companion of a whole region and many other wins under his belt.
goh was playing pokemon go in the series and chloe playing lets go evee
This is a Wii u to Switch situation. Journeys Walked so horizons could run. World Travel Formula This time they really travel from region to region instead of one episode they are in Kalos in the next episode they are in Sinnoh. Dot has the same role as Chloe but actually gets screen time and a lot of character development, more than Roy even. And the story is the best it's ever been
Eh, I don't see it tbh, mainly because I don't like the Horizons series either
FR 👏🏽 I haven’t seen Horizons yet but from what I’ve heard it’s just “Journeys but actually executed well”
I'm only pissed that Ash left without ending Team Rocket like he did with the other evil teams.
why would he?
he did in black and white
The Team Rocket organization’s still at large. Not disbanded, at large.
Ash is not Red and the team rocket trio wouldn’t have an actual purpose or reason to be involved in the plots at all if Giovanni and the group wasn’t still an active threat as Jessie and James haven’t gained a good niche to do outside of trying to steal Pokémon till Gen 3 where Jessie gained a passion as a coordinator and James is a skilled battler in his own right and has potential as a coordinator too
apparently team rainbow rockets happen in A universe of where red and blue lose to Giovanni at the gym battle
They should've removed Goh entirely. Focused more on Ash developing the pokemon he had. The world coronation series should've allowed multiple gimmicks to be used, but most of the champions use only one, other that Ash with 3 and Cynthia with 2 (Mega and Dynamax). This could've built Leon as even stronger because he only uses one gimmick and is almost better than Ash, and he wouldn't have been cheating. Also they screwed Serena. If they didn't have Goh, they could've done something better. They could've used the same style, with Ash travelling everywhere, but in a coherent story, meeting all his old friends in a way to get stronger, like with Paul, and Ash-Greninja. It would've brought back old characters, allowed for the series to focus on Ash and his team and their development, and he would've had a believable win in the World Coronation Series
I don’t know about removing Goh entirely, instead they should’ve just worked on better writing for his character
@@gooey448 Gloria character plus galar pokemon also galar character, legendary pokemon plus dlc being treat like trash because they want promote death mobile app character
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Stupid toxic gou midoriya stan fans is here @@PurpleSecurityGuard
@@Nazmi-xy6np wtf are you even saying, learn to type English instead of your own language
Journeys should not have used an episodic formula, filler episodes, disregard Ash's reserves, as well as over glorifying Kanto. If there's a world travelling premise, the other regions need focus as well. Horizons started fresh and is rectifying all the mistakes Journeys made...
About disregard Ash's reserves. Sure, it's great that Ash's Journeys team help beat Leon, and yes, the writers may have proved that "Ash does not need to use his reserves to win the PWC." But, pride comes before the fall, because when Ash finally got to use his reserves after beating Leon, everyone all over the world launched a full scale backlash and condemned the anime for this giant mistake pointing out that Ash should have used his reserves throughout Journeys. Nowadays, the tradition of Ash overusing his current while ignoring his reserves is now the most hated premise ever. I think that if Ash were to return, he has to have new evolutions in his reserves (looking at you: Meganium, Typhlosion, Feraligatr, Crawdaunt, Floatzel, Garchomp, Samurott, Emboar, Serperior, Scrafty, Gigalith, Seismitoad, Annihilape) as well as be given new captures that the writers still owe Ash (e.g., Flygon, Magnezone, Houndoom, Beartic).
A world travelling premise is great but the fact the premise mostly takes in place in Kanto, along with Aim to be a Pokemon Master being a homage to the original series, proved that the writers overglorified Kanto. At least Horizons is resolving some problems by giving more focus in Galar compared to Journeys (so far we got Kabu, Galarian Moltres, Liko gets a Hatenna which is now a Hattrem) along with the Terastal Training taking place in Paldea.
The thing of Ash focusing on new Pokemon in every region is ok, as that have allowed Ash to have a very strong and diverse group of Pokemon ready to battle. That is not the problem.
The PROBLEM is when he doesn't use them for the main tournament or events, like in the Pokemon Leagues or, in this case, the Pokemon World Championship. Heck, that is one of the first things Brock told Ash during his first Pokemon League: to see the need to change Pokemon between battles to be absolute ready for everything. I like that he did that during the first 4 Leagues (Kanto, Johto, Hoenn and Sinnoh), but after that, the rarely changes teams.
Like, come on, man! You are facing the WORLD CHAMPION. Use your very best from ALL your Journeys! That would have been a good ending: use the Pokemon from ALL your Journeys... during Pokemon Journeys!
@@Saiyan0X It wasn't in Hoenn League. Ash overused his Hoenn team and failed to fully evolve his Grovyle and Corphish before the League, hence his loss against Tyson. That would be Battle Frontier where Ash does use some of his reserves like Snorlax, Tauros, and Donphan, as well as fully evolving his Grovyle into Sceptile. But the rest, I think there are some reasons why the writers went there:
Unova: Ash caught too many Pokemon which meant that most members were not fully evolved and he regressed from Top 4 in Sinnoh to Top 8 in Unova. Just goes to show why trying to prove that Pokemon don't need evolution to get strong, along with claiming that personality and cuteness is what kids want was not worth it.
Kalos: Because of the release of ORAS, the writers recycled a lot of story elements from the Hoenn League part of the story (albeit more subtle than BW) and that includes Ash overusing his Kalos team and losing the League, but in this case it was more of not enough practice with Ash-Greninja (Alain had more practice with Mega Charizard X as shown in the Mega Evolution Specials) along with no Mega Evolution for Ash. It took until Journeys for Ash to finally use Mega Evolution.
Alola: I'll let that slide since his Alola team help Ash become Champion.
PWC: If it's a world travelling premise, besides building a new team, the writers should have let Ash use his reserves throughout Journeys. Instead, the true reward for that stunt was a full scale backlash from fans, which probably went something like this:
Writers: "We proved that Ash did not need reserves for PWC, why are you so mad at us?"
Fans: You should have let Ash used the reserves and fully evolved all the ones you messed up on!
@@Saiyan0X Same here don't mind New Teams each region.
As for the Leagues well in Kanto it was his 1st so, he had no reserves, sure he had other pokemon he caught, but do they count as reserves?
In Johto he did use his reserves, but that's really only because his Johto Team couldn't carry him all the way, as they underdeveloped.
Hoenn he decided to use only his Hoenn Mons. Though he brought some back in BF!
Shinnoh he did use his reserves, though I Wish it'd been handled Better.
Unova too many overlapping types. Still don't get Palpitoad & Leavanny catches. Tepig was the same story line from all his other Fire Starters. And he Regressed from Top 4 to Top 8 from a sorry that Loss really Stung why O why did they have Ash Lose to Cameron when there were Better Trainers for him to Lose to like Virgil.
Kalos The BIG 1!!! The one where he Wins Silver!!! When he should've Won Gold!!! He didn't get Mega Evolution and WORSE they had to Gift him a "Special" Mega Evolution" just so he could keep up is Terrible! That episode title man, I don't think I'll ever get over it.
Alola only because of the MASSIVE BACKLASH of Kalos League does he Finally WIN! But the way it was handled was Bad, I mean srsly NO 6v6 Battles? And b4 anyone says, but Ash vs Kukui; well that wasn't a League Battle so it doesn't count!
JN should've been 2 seasons. 1st in Galar for a New Galarian Team! Srsly Sir'Fetch'd & Dracovish needed Better Development & they could do that on a Galar Team! 2nd should've been the PWC and Rotating his Reserves! Kinda like Ronin Charizard's What if Ash Won the PWC Rewrite series he has going on.
none of the journey anime is not really apost to be fillers
I genuinely think Journeys Number 1 Problem by far was being episodic. Having one off eps here and there is fine, every series has that but for Ash’s final series at least like 90% of it should be focused on Ash, Goh, And their Pokémon. I would’ve had Zero issue with Ash not using reserves had Ash’s new team had more time to develop specifically in the first half of the series since the second half they got more shine finally.
True it felt more like a “show” instead of a “story”
9:26 the thing that pisses me off the most about this is that the whole 'cant handle losses' thing was in XY, and that whole character arc was peak and it was resolved so perfectly, so i dont know who the hell in the writing team came up with that because ash is over that shit
Also, I don't think it made sense for Paul to say "I'm not interested in noisy crowds" because wasn't the Sinnoh League a noisy crowd?
@@mercedestrenz1881 it’s just a dumb excuse
Would have been better if he just say "nah, I'm focusing on the next one. I need to train more" and that would have been more believable
Bro Pokemon Journey's was basically a joke of a series I didn't like the characters and almost everything in this anime was caterpillar butt cheeks like they could of just had Ash travel the Galar region instead of him going around doing random crud
the problem can be boiled down to
-journeys biting off more than it could chew (which it might have been able to manage if covid never happened olm never got scrambled)
-really poor writing at times like they wrote themselves into a corner with steven
also the fact this is ash’s last series and the final episodes were nostalgia bait filler was really awful
I think Journeys was another victim of the Pandemic
In all honesty, I was really worried that Goh was literally going to take over as the main character after Ash left. I’m so glad that didn’t happen at all!
Here's something that we can agree on, Zactoshi's What If Sw/Sh Anime & Zanolith's (ongoing) Journeys Rewrite is better than this "Official Fanfic".
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To be fair, the moment we got Quick Balls we just threw that shit straight away, and unless you're trying catch a Pokemon with really low catch rate you're pretty much guaranteed to catch it.
Also, Goh's name kind of gave away which style he was following. It was Pokemon Go, where you didn't battle wild Pokemon at all.
in fact, Goh is simply the personification of the very player who wants to catch them all, but sometimes this desire can turn into an obsession (and most importantly, he has almost no stories of catching his Pokemon) which is shown. if Goh had been replaced by Bea, Pokemon journeys probably wouldn't have received so much hate
Fax bro
"The guy who beat Ash so bad he woke up from his coma." LMFAO. Bro knows comedy! But really good video man, really touched on all the key points that made Pokemon Journeys as bad as it is and why it was so controversial. sadly pokemon journeys will always be the best example of wasted potential.
Appreciate it. 100% agree there
Shoutout to the episode where Ash reunited with Serena. Bets episode in all of Journeys
Imagine how good it would have been if they reunited for more than 1 minute
Yeah
That episode was literally garbage..
Legendary Pokémon used to be Legendary, but with journeys u see one like every 10 episodes, killed the joy I felt seeing a legendary as a child
I agree
All they had to do with Goh was make him rely too much on using quick balls and later realized how using quick balls is holding him back from being a better trainer for himself and his pokemon
But the Pokémon show as a whole is just allergic to causally showing off the other types of Poké balls in the series
Don't forget that another thing that was so bad about Pokemon Journeys is the fact that that was when the writers got into totally ruining the personalities of the Team Rocket trio and didn't fix that up! In previous seasons Jessie, James, and Meowth were doing things that caused a fanbase for them to be created, then those writers totally messed those 3 characters up in Journeys by having them only do annoying bad stuff instead of having them continue to behave on screen as the likable and sympathetic antagonists who would do silly bad stuff and also good stuff and cared about the Pokemon that they had with them, which they had been seen as in most of the previous seasons of the Pokemon anime. It sucks that that trio were done dirty in Journeys too.
And they never gave Ash an Eevee
I will never forgive them for teasing us with those Eevee shorts
What Journeys should've done is:
Having the series taking it's time & not rushing it. No pointless filler episodes, more Galar representation
Ash catching more pokemon than just 5 pokemon. Ash should've had the following new pokemon in my opinion:
1. Pikachu
2. Dragonite
3. Gengar
4. Lucario
5. Sirfetch'd
6. Dracovish
7. Rillaboom
8. Inteleon
9. Cinderace
10. Flygon
11. Tyranitar
12. Corviknight
13. Zoroark
14. Zeraora
15. "Nebby" Solgaleo - Officially catching it
16. Lugia
17. Latios
18. Latias
And Ash should've also used all his other past pokemon in the WCS & evolving them, & got back his Primeape, Greninja
Also he should've gotten the chance to battle & beat more Elite 4 members, beat his past league rivals he lost against, & beat the other pokemon league champion winners. And also battle & beat Regional Champs Lance & Diantha
Not have Goh hogging half the attention, Not making it so easy for Goh to catch a legendary, he wasted Grookey, Project Mew should've been more his main goal from the start.
Chloe should've been better developed & had a real goal & caught more pokemon like the Galarian Ponyta, Hatterene
Team Rocket was terrible: They should've been how they were in Black & White & at the end, finally leaving Team Rocket
Journeys should've been regular series, because Ash winning Alola league, definitely doesn't mean he's champion level. Especially since this is Alola league which has James in Top 8 and final battle is 3 vs 3. Journeys should've been Ash beating gyms but gyms are much stronger than previous gym and him losing in Galar league to Peony in Top 4. Making him officially Elite Four level trainer. Gen 9 was perfect for Ash, that he wants to train to become champion as he becomes one by beating Nemona and Geeta. This is perfect Ash's progression. Then, Gen 10 would be PWC in which Ash wins entire thing and gets replaced by new kids.
Giving Ash all three Galar starters would have been a horrible idea, since this was the reason why Ash's Johto and Unova teams failed (I know Ash had all three starters in Kanto as well, but people should have realized it only worked once). Plus, since Ash is Champion, giving him new starters is pretty much a permanent downgrade in his skills and each Galar starter given to Ash would have ran the risk of being a lazy clone. (I am also aware that Leon had all three Galar starters but Leon likely obtained them prior to becoming Galar Champion).
Cinderace: We already had Charizard and Infernape and I think the writers want another male protagonist besides Ash to have a Current Gen Fire Starter as an ace, since May has Blaziken and Serena has Delphox.
Inteleon: It does have GMax, but giving Ash a GMax Inteleon would have been seen as a lazy repeat of Ash's Greninja (Water starter with super form).
Rillaboom: Cool but it does run the risk of being a Sceptile clone, plus we've seen Ash obtain a lot of Grass starters and the writers needed someone else to have a Grass starter ace. Grookey is the main reason why Liko's Sprigatito had to evolve.
i wished ash caught latias and latios when he saved them missed opportunity
Tbf, with Goh, the reason why he was catching pokemon without fighting a lot of them was cause he was supposed to be the character for pokemon Go players, as to why is name is Goh & how the catching is reminiscent of pokemon Go.
only goh has that power to do so other trainers had to defeat pokemon to catch them ash did many times and failed
Here are some of my main criticisms of JN, some people will be incredibly salty with my criticisms.
Ash's Pokémon are barely there, one thing all the other series did right, even ones that were not great like AG, BW, and SM had the Pokémon interact with each other, one of my favorite episodes, Tears for Fears is nothing but Pokémon interacting with each other. It seems the only Pokémon Ash has are Lucario and Pikachu, while Goh only has the Galar starters.
How Goh catches Pokémon. This one has been talked to death. The way that Goh catches Pokémon goes against the Anime rules of catching them. To catch a Pokémon, you either a, battle it, or b, it agrees to come with you. Yeeting Pokeball's at a Pokémon is not how you are supposed to catch a Pokémon. Another minor gripe is how Goh's Pokémon are registered to the Pokedex , which is not how a pokedex works in the anime.
How Ash's character is handled, I have a lot of issues with how Ash was handled in SM and JN, from his stupidity to pitching up his voice. Most of the problems with Ash in JN started in SM, where they make him the butt monkey of both the SM and JN groups, meaning he is the butt of every demeaning joke and his stupidity is played for cheap laughs. The anime really needs to stop playing Ash's stupidity for laughs in general, it's not funny and it a poor attempt at humor. Who ever thought it was a good idea to pitch up Ash's voice in SM and JN should be fired. In essence, they took everything bad about Ash in SM and cranked it up to eleven.
Pacing problems, JN has a lot of pacing problems. Their is a lot of filler episodes, like a lot, it just feels like it is just a slog to get through. Another thing is how JN tries to cram everything into 1 to two episodes when it would be better to have a multi episode arc. A good example of this is for the BDSP episodes, that should have been more than two episodes.
Chloe, she is pretty much sidelined in the series, she pretty much cannot decide whether she wants to travel with Ash and Goh or not. She had a lot of potential as a character, but it has been squandered, with JN having 30-40 episodes left, I do not see anything changing yet.
Nostalgia bating, a lot of characters were promised to return in the series. For the most part, they have delivered on that end. However, it seems that they are only having characters return to keep fans who do not like the creative direction watching the show. It is like they know that people do not like the show and the characters, so it feels like they are dangling character returns like a carrot. Gary, Iris, Dawn, and Ash's old Pokémon have returned in the series, the only one who got a meaningful return in my opinion is Dawn, the rest, the studio shoved the characters in an episode and called it as day. They are now teasing much more returns, Greninja, Bonnie, Clement, and Paul. Hopefully these are good returns and the studio is not just dangling a carrot to keep people watching.
Glad I’m not the only one that has an issue with the nostalgia baiting, it’s literally just “remember this, remember that” and in some cases it’s just briefly, also for whatever reasons some returning Pokémon evolve off screen not even a flashback and it’s also a complete waste that some of ash’s pokemon don’t evolve at all, Screw JN
Pretty much agree with most said here
I'd argue Dawn wasn't that meaningful since it seemed like she just woke up from being cryogenically frozen since BW. No new Pokemon, evolutions or accomplishments compared to the other companions. Iris became a Champion, May and Serena became idols; May couldn't even speak because her VA retired. PokeMas Dawn was a more meaningful return. It would have been forgiveable if the excuse was that she was trapped in Hisui in all that time and got to evolve her Quillava.
THANK YOU! Goh, Pokémon broke the number one rule that was established in the earliest days of Pokémon! Which is battling first then catching! As for Ash, don’t know why they have to switch up the voice for. And don’t get me started with him searching for data on the FLOOR! And with nostalgia baiting, yeah… they were just playing with us like that. Some got some development when they’ve separated from Ash but others got nothing that they’ve changed at all. Not the best series like in the levels of D&P or X&Y series, but not the worse than what happened with the B&W series.
i only watched about 70 episodes of journeys then I just gave up
The one thing I didn’t like about Pokemon Journeys is that it felt more like an adaptation of Pokemon Go than Sword & Shield and there was a lot of focus on old Pokemon as not all of the Gen 8 Pokemon appeared. Plus no movies for it. The one with Zarude should’ve taken place within the main series. I saw no point in movie reboots. Whats more is the GS Ball plot was never resolved and Team Rocket is still active. I always imagined how the Pokemon anime would end (or at least Ash’s story) and was always hoped it would be the take down of the whole Team Rocket organization and Ash’s father would be involved too.
They really should have made the Masters 8 or whatever a much more massive thing. In Gen 4, Ash brought all of his Pokemon in from past gens and used mixed teams of all of them, save for against Paul. Here, he just stuck with the same guys... We should have seen all the OG's coming out to help against each champ.
Hi!
As a certified journeys defender allow me to say some counter points to yours.
1. ASH DID NOT CHEAT, Leon said you can use all three then management said you can use all three and once Ash agreed the rules were changed so both sides could use all three thus allowing Leon to use a second G-max when Eternatus gave that a reset.
2. Even if he used all three he actually need those as all of Leon's Pokemon are as strong as a champions ace, so Ash using all three at the end of the day gives him the power to Level the playing field plus Charizard vs Pikachu had no gimmicks just two Pokemon going at it.
3. Alain did very well for being the weakest in the masters 8, he used 1 super effective move from his ace to take out Rillaboom who went on to tank multiple hits from future opponents Alain took it out with one super effective move from chestnaught and one from his Charizard which is the best performance against it we saw.
4. It didn't disrespect Paul he helped Ash train for the WCS and he also would have got swept by Leon if he was there.
5. The episodic nature has one benifit and that you can just watch the episodes you like you don't have to watch the ones you don't want too, which is how I will watch it in the future.
6. Goh can do that because he is go as in Pokemon go, so he can catch Pokemon like you can in Pokemon go, plus the hunter weakened Suicune for him then it chose to stay.
7. Chloe was cool as a what am I going to do character, it is really just the ending that is disappointing but aside from that she was good, especially in the last 2 episode in JN where she appreciates her Eevee for helping her grow.
8. Like I said before you can skip filler I any series but in a episodic anime you can skip it even more if you don't want to watch it, personally the filler doesn't bother me as if it were to just appear randomly on TV you can just sit down and watch it and have 20 minutes of fun.
9. The best part of journeys that helped me appreciate it is when you see a episode of JN on tv and not batch watching on Netflix, you can just watch it and enjoy it, as it was intended, but if you are watching on Netflix you can just skip all the bad and go straight to the good nothing is stopping you.
10. The fact that Ash beat all these champions was cool, in fact the only bad battle was Leon vs Diantha because we didn't get to see it all, thanks to some kid getting lost.
11. While the best part may have been the returning characters, there is more to like then just, but it does provide nice world building by having show up like with Iris, but also by having them show up it proves Pokemon is interconnected, some people think dp Ash and every Ash after is not the same Ash but that is not the case.
12. Back to Paul, they say let's battle again sometime to most of not all of the people Ash has battled against so that does not mean they are going to battle again.
13. Pokemon does remember who Paul is that's why they had him come back to train his Pokemon alongside his old Pokemon, because they know only Paul can do that.
14. Ash forgets Pokemon typings all the time even in the previous series Alola he forgets poison moves don't work on steel types, it is just apart of his character.
15. Again the strength of episodic is you can watch the episodes you like and I think that is how you should watch JN on the future, the Ash gets a Pokemon Episodes, the Ash fights in the WCS episodes, a episode where a Pokemon evolves, and the masters Tournament, plus MPM because Ash uses old Pokemon there and I know lots of people like that.
16. Ash is a champion now. He can train his newbie Pokemon up to champion level I'm sure if Cynthia started with a new team she could do the same and no one would complain but because it's Ash everyone complains.
17. It is in Ash's character to raise up a new team each gen it should not be a surprise. Plus once he beat Cynthia and got permission to use all of his tools he showed why he took the time to earn them and that pays off, as he now is ready to face Leon both at full power,and in the end the best one vs one happened and that had nothing to rely on, Ash's Pikachu is just better then Leon's Charizard.
18. He cheated because you can't do that. YES HE CAN THE RULES WHERE CHANGED TO SO IT WAS LEGAL TO DO THAT, THATS THE WHOLE POINT.
19. He clearly didn't need to use his old Pokemon and infact if he did just swap out his JN team for his old Pokemon at the masters Tournament he would have lost round 1 only the JN team have the power to stand up to champions.
20. Lastly the journeys team trained constantly for the battle vs Leon and so they earned the win.
I hope you have a good day and to anyone who read all this thank you.
I get where ur coming from. But for me I prefer the linear path of pokemon instead of episodic formatting. Even if u like all the characters, choices and such. I still think how they used to do it was a much more enjoyable and consistent story. But some will prefer the episodic format and others won’t. Journeys is very split because of this because it’s definitely an acquired taste.
@@gooey448ah yes, this comment and you only respond to one part of it lol, totally understand if you read it but only have one thing to say, as I did make twenty points.
Thanks for reading my comment and replying as I never expected a reply, even if you did end up reading it. :D
Stupid toxic gou midoriya stan fans is here @@havingfunwithelijah214
On Arceus I swear even a baby fresh out the womb coulda made a better ending like Seriously??
Spoiler Warning
The Ending was quite literally ash talking to a kid who passed away.
I heard somewhere that apparently that last episode wasn’t actually the last episode. It was more an ova of sort
@@theneo-spacianplayer You're right, and just a reminder that Ash from the said episode was actually I Choose You Movie Ash and not Anime Ash.
Journeys felt too... disrespectful to the other pokemon
My main problem with the series is that they don't go the traditional route of having ash travel the galar region, collecting badges and moving up to the regions pokemon league like he usually does. They did some Galar region stuff here and there, but Journeys should've been focused on the galar region instead of Ash traveling to a bunch of regions he's already been to.
maybe have the reunions happen in galar?
they treid to go different route and their idea was pretty good but their exucation was bad they focused too much on kanto, goh and chloe. goh literally got 60% of episodes which we why we barely any saw ash battles. Team rocket was handled terribly too also lack of focus on other regions and anything the only positive was lots of returing characters
7:01 Thomas did this in its first and fourth seasons, mashing two stories into one adaptation. Thomas did this so much better because the stories… actually had something to do with each other (for the most part.)
Wait the tank engine that got that ABSOLUTELY AWFUL reboot back in 2021?
@@limo651 Yep. That’s the one.
I’m sorry but I’m a germ believer that ash needed plot armor to beat Leon and Sythia they made it to were garchomp didn’t go mega and had ash use 3 gimicks while Leon used 1 I’m not saying ash didn’t earn his wins I’m saying the writers went about it wrong
*Cynthia,* but otherwise yes
*Cynthia
@@PeruvianPotato SHHHUUUUUUUT
Despite its flaws, I honestly still enjoyed journeys. Sure I wish it would’ve been better but I still had fun while watching it, and ash becoming world champion has made me the most happiest I have ever felt thru the whole anime.
But yeah I won’t deny that this series in the anime isn’t perfect and there are things that I wish were done better like having all of ash’s travel companions and rivals in the actual stadium to watch him battle Leon. For Goh, I do understand that his whole gimmick is Pokemon go, but it still feels unfair that he could catch so many pokemon way too easily while ash always struggled to battle them before catching them. As for Chloe… man out of all the pokegirls, her conclusion was dumb. She wasn’t interested to become a pokemon researcher just like her dad during the start of the series and that’s exactly what she decides to do, like what??… and the fact that her eevee didn’t even evolved was disappointing. And the two eleven minute fillers were so dumb and unnecessary. Heck, I’m even disappointed that Paul (the rival who I freaking hate and refuse to forgive him for abusing my fire baby chimchar) wasn’t in the championship, it’s like the writers forgot what Cynthia said back in the sinnoh series of hoping to see ash and Paul battle again in the championships. And of course, it makes me sad that Jessie James and meowth refused to quit team rocket and continue to get pikachu. It’s sad because honestly those three really deserve to have a happy ending, quit team rocket and live a humble life by doing something that they can actually be good at, like why not sell malasadas just like they did in sun and moon?? It would’ve been cute that they could have an actual good business that can gain a lot of attention and that way they can no longer struggle with getting money. Like butch and Cassidy did do that and it makes me happy for them, so it’s unfair that Jessie James and meowth are still working for team rocket 😢
But yea, despite all those flaws, I still enjoyed journeys. It’s not as good as the other series in the anime but it’s still a series that always puts me in a good happy mood just like sun and moon 😊
11:27 that’s exactly what I’ve been saying to my friends! But they’re all like “it was symbolic to all of his achievements” but they showed those achievements in the series with him going back to the other regions!
Thank you for mentioning that Ash cheated in his battle against Leon. I think so, too! In fact, if he had been held to the rule of one gimmick, Leon would have destroyed Ash, (at least, in my opinion).
To be fair the only gimmick Ash ever needs is his plot armour and he is always allowed to use it
Of which he utilized greatly in Journeys.
If it was not polt Armor, ash would have loos to bee
Zactoshi did it justice.
With it being a love letter to fans
Yeah, he did cheat against Leon, but you gotta admin he was robbed in the Kalos league
The writers should’ve gotten suggestions from the fans. The series would’ve been an epic one.
Something that genuinely annoyed me about journeys was the masters 8 tournament. Due to the series wanting to have Ash and Goh travel throughout all the regions it leaves so little time for Galar and when we actually do get to Galar it feels like any other romp specifically because of the masters 8 tournament. Galar in the games treated the pokemon league like this massive deal. Gym leaders were treated like sports celebrities, challengers were treated like rising stars, and of course we had the trainer cards. But with the tournament being worldwide and being broadcasted everywhere it takes away what made Galar stand out from the other regions resulting in it feeling like more of The same.
IMO Journeys was worse than Unova in the sense that Unova was purely shit but the core was consistent. Journeys had no pathing.
All you haters I started with journeys don't disrespect ash or goh buddy this was the best show because I started with it the second best is kalos the third is alaoa the fourth is sinnoh and every other one they're horrible the top four shows are better 😈
You are saying that, you were pissed at a kids show and never understood yet that there are worst series than BW AND JN
Stupid toxic gou midoriya stan fans is here @@lindafalso7465
@@lindafalso7465stupid toxic gou midoriya stan fans is here
@@lindafalso7465bro journeys is not the best. Journeys is not even in the top 3 best. Just because you watched journeys first dosnt mean it's the best.literally any series before journeys is better. But i guess there is no reason to argue since everybody has their opinions
It would have made more sense if he caught Pokémon that his friends had but heading at the chance to catch.
if they would have made ash lose in the final or semi against cynthia then make a new series where he travels alone or with the og kanto trio and develop to finally beat the champion would be perfect
Really great video dude. Really summed up well why I couldnt find much enjoyment watching journeys as much as the other series... except like idk? dragonite hugs, fetch being chad, dracorvish being dracorvish, gengar having such a cool a$ gigantamax, [NO], and final ep being done well.
Journeys was so mid man 😭. I liked it at the beginning but it ended up being unbelievably disappointing after a while. Journeys had great episodes past season 1 but there was a huge focus issue with the show, mostly to do with important stuff and filler with the main issue being that they'd focus on filler or rush concepts that were actually interesting into only one episode. They also didn't really develop Ash's team at all with Ash mainly focusing on only Lucario and Sirfetch'd and basically sidelining Gengar, Dragonite and Dracovish. Then the production issues caused the Masters Eight to end up being insanely disappointing minus the Cynthia and Leon battles. Anyways great video 👍
I want to say two things. My favorite character in the entire franchise is Goh. It makes me a little sad that there's so much unjustified hate towards him. There are things I understand about the hate, like when he caught the Pinsir; it was the most absurd way to catch a strong Pokémon. But, for example, the capture of Suicune happened because if Suicune hadn't allowed itself to be caught, it would have remained trapped in the trap those men set.
Outside of the topic of Goh and speaking more generally, I think it would have been better to split Pokémon Journeys into two seasons. The first season, possibly called Pokémon: Sword and Shield, would be about Ash and Goh meeting because of Lugia and everything we already know, but they have to go to Galar and stay there permanently. Similarly, with Chloe, I think it would have been better to have a season like the old ones, solely set in Galar, rather than mixing it with more travels. I feel they tried to cram too many themes and ideas into one season, and that complicated things a lot. If it had been separated, we would have had better development of Goh and Chloe, Galar Pokémon caught by Ash, and most importantly... MORE GALAR.
The second season I would call something like Pokémon Journeys or something more epic like Pokémon: On the Road to Becoming a Master... where Ash would embark on a journey to various regions without catching new Pokémon, using only his old Pokémon to improve and win the World Coronation Series. That idea would have been epic, but it was wasted. Now there's Pokémon Horizons... the series isn’t bad, but I think we could have had a more epic ending for Ash. If you read all of this, dear reader, thank you so much... :)
cope lol. all the hate was justified.
@@vihaan_17 Start telling me mate, the reasons for your hate... I will respond without any problem.
@@PijarrapMusic literally the ones stated in the video??
Like bro is a newbie and acts like he knows shi? More than Ash himself? Gets powerful pokemon like its nothing? Etc etc what will you even respond with😂
@@vihaan_17 Goh never acted like he knew more than Ash. Let me give you an example... if you and a smart friend are doing math exercises and the smart one forgets how to multiply, and you remind them without being asked... you're not acting smarter because you're not; you're just helping. The same thing happened with Flygon here. Goh saw that Ash forgot about a type, and what he did was help him, as any good friend would.
Now let's see, powerful Pokémon caught easily. Here, I understand you, and I’ve decided to look at the strong Pokémon, and the 'strong' Pokémon that Goh has caught. I've made a list, and I'll share it with you here:
Venomoth: You're right.
Parasect: You're right.
Butterfree: You're right.
Pinsir: You are ABSOLUTELY right.
Beedrill: Maybe... perhaps Pikachu’s Electroweb weakened it a bit.
Scizor: There was a battle here.
Dewgong: It was very hard for Goh to catch this one.
Heracross: It was a trade.
Hitmonchan: It was a prize.
Raichu: It was mostly out of friendship.
Aerodactyl: It was difficult.
Cloyster: I forgot about this capture...
Ariados: I forgot about this capture too.
Chinchou: He fished it... and it's supposed to be captured afterward, though it's unclear how...
Suicune: I've already explained why this capture was justified.
Flygon: It was difficult.
Absol: If it didn’t let itself be caught, it would have died... but well, it chose to stay with Goh afterward.
Sharpedo: I suppose you're right... I forgot.
Altaria: Sadly, the capture isn’t shown.
Darmanitan: You’re right.
Golurk: It was very difficult.
Camerupt: You’re right.
Arctozolt: It was a gift.
Regieleki: It was difficult.
Eternatus: It was difficult.
Well, those would be the powerful ones that Goh might have caught... It seems the writers realized the mistake because his easiest captures were in his early episodes only, and then it became much harder for Goh... but I also want you to think... why does Goh catch his Pokémon so easily? Maybe it's because... he's catching Pokémon that aren't that strong... because a Caterpie, a Weedle, are very easy Pokémon to catch without a battle. What I think happened is that we’re not used to seeing someone catch Pokémon so easily when Ash was always catching very strong Pokémon, though in the last seasons, Ash's team members joined more out of friendship rather than battle.
But well... that would be my response to what you told me.
@@PijarrapMusic so at the end even you do realise the inconsistencies, perhaps a little more better than me too cuz its been a while since i watched journeys. So umm… i agree. However, we cant do anything about the opinion of others, can we? Ash had to battle even the WEAKEST pokemon to catch them.. basically the writers changed that for goh cuz it would be too many mini battles. A newly introduced newbie catching more Pokemon than ash and also having a few strong ones(like the giant rock type i forgot the name about which ash’s dragonite and goh’s fire type battled). Also, his design is kinda annoying too, but that can be just me. Overall, he had potential, could have been done better.
Pokémon Journeys and Big World Big Adventures (an era of Thomas the Tank Engine) are both about the main characters traveling the world. And both are very poor in my opinion. Journeys shafted the Galar stuff in favor of Filler and Kanto. While BWBA did the opposite, removing two of the original characters from the main cast (Edward and Henry) and replacing them with two new characters.
Thing is I actually tolerate BWBA, I can’t defend Journeys. Heck, the Galar Starters don’t show up together in base form outside of “The world of Pokémon” segments.
At least Charizard got put in its place in the end. I hate Charizard so much
It's been a while. Where the series went wrong as a whole [from a 25 year long run perspective] there wasn't or lack thereof the artistic freedom to write a compelling story from ash ketchem. The development team was just too focused on promoting The Pokemon and as a result the considerable yet unpopular ones were in the back burner while others took the spotlight. On top of that every region that was introduced in the series it was a must to feature the Pokemon and characters that was in it therefore we got this episodic chaos of an anime. Hence why Ash's goal took way longer than it needed to be because he had to get rebranded and readjusted for every region versus continuing the story or advancing himself to reaching his goal much faster.
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I will say it, the first match btw Iris and Ash...
ASH SHOULD HAVE LOST, IDC WHAT YOU SAID. IT SHOULD BE IRIS WHO HAD WON
Agreed. That should have been one of the few battles Ash lost. Instead we just have Ash seemingly have no struggle whatsoever.
Although it felt like Ash cheated, which I do agree with, being able to use as many gimmicks as each trainer can is the way to really have a battle of true strength. If Ash was only able to use one, he wouldn’t be using all of his power, since two other gimmicks would be eliminated, it’s not Ash’s fault that Leon only has access to Dynamax
To be fair, Leon was the one who allowed Ash to use all of his Gimmicks.
@@jonathanchen4987it was a great battle either way tbh
@@Kingmar06 Agreed.
Goh is the representative for the player and the audience who plays Pokémon GO that's his whole gimmick and story plot. Which Pokémon GO doesn't really have a story unless you do the event.
I really like seeing longer form videos from you again in all honesty, Gooey! You’re amazing I think. Keep up the amazing work!
Thanks for the feedback
@@gooey448 you’re welcome!
Ash reseted doesn't work as a mentor.
Journeys is the definition of a mixed bag for me. Not the best, not the worst. Loved the Darkest Day arc, it built well and had a narratively satisfying twist from the games. It was also cool to see them desperately fighting off dynamaxed pokemon like Kaijus, especially since all we got about this portion of the story ingame was a postcard. Leon and Rose were written surprisingly well, and it felt grand for Ash to be meeting such important figures at this stage of his journey. There were also a lot of cool explored locations like dynamax battling outside of a crumbling arena, a coal mine, and the containment unit for Eternatus itself. Aura with Ash was also handled very well, loved that whole parallel between Gren and Lucario, and it not only explained something unclear from XYZ but also created a deserving scenario for Ash to obtain mega evolution. Goh had his moments as well, Mew Project was a very good idea to give him a clear objective to chase. It just felt like he was going a whole lot of nowhere the entire anime, and it at least gave him direction and an organization to bounce off of for intrigue in his story. Don't even get me started on the potential Chloe had as a foil. I just wish there was more substance from episode to episode, and that they committed more to plot directions. It honestly felt like a losing gamble to tune into it every week, because a good 70% of the time it was filler that didn't contribute to any plot points. It's okay to have that be like 30% or something, and SuMo is proof enough that if you litter purpose and meaning behind filler it becomes a lot more interesting. But neither of those things happened in Journeys. They played it way too safe while taking a gigantic risk and it caused the show to flop pretty badly even with the fanbase wojacking about the ending. How did SuMo or Horizons for example handle twice the characters on the main cast and do it better for each one? That is truly baffling. Speaking of, the only interesting part of the show before Mew Project was the World Corronation Series, and it was so disappointing to see it go from being built up like it's this big deal with very strong trainers to just having Ash in the end totally clean all these people first try that would absolutely wipe the floor with him if he wasn't an anime protag. He took 3 attempts against Brendan and two attempts against get this... WULFRIC. He also loses a LOT before even getting to the tournament itself. And it made for great character building moments for him. But he can just consistently defeat champions with an almost entirely new squad? Even if it's at the end of his journey, a true celebration would bring in other members for these fights and demonstrate all the experience Ash has gained over his time becoming a champion. His strength is in his ingenuity, I would have liked to see more of that in his matchup drafts. All the mary sue character writing just felt straight out of wattpad IMO, maybe worse bc there's some good fanfic writers out there that would do a better job with this premise. Hell I've SEEN fanfic fixes of this series that do it so much more justice. It's crazy they didn't just end Ash's journey in Alola, I could see that being because of obligation and pressure from TPC. But clearly with Journeys they learned their lesson and really cut it off there for all characters involved. I had high hopes for this series, and it only partially delivered. And that's a generous way to put it.
I swan dived off a cliff but Gooey uploaded so i paused mid air
Lol
I basically forced myself to watch the whole series and the master 8 was done dirty only good battles are Iris vs Cynthia, Ash vs Cynthia and Ash vs Leon, and maybe Lance vs Diantha
Ash Could’ve easily won the world coronation series without any gimmicks (except one) using his actual best pokemon. Greninja, Charizard, Infernape, and Sceptile could’ve been brought back. Mega Lucario and Pikachu were still broken though
What they did to Alan and Greninja were the worst things for me
Leon cheated too he used 2 gigantamax
But like leon alowed it in their battle
i wanted ash to travel alone in journeys
8:15 I find that very hard to believe for some reason
Chloe should have been a travel companion, sadly they didn’t use her to her full potential
Tbh Journeys couldn't have redeem itself if it wasn't for Goh and Chloe,and Ash not traveling and staying in galar the region meeting new friends along the way,it could have been perfect m,but no they made it worse
I liked Journeys when it was all said and done, but a problem I always had was that it didn't do enough to feel like the end of Ash's adventure. It wasn't until the Masters 8 where it truly felt like this could be the end, and even then there was a good assortment of missed potential.
HEY! That was me! Honestly bro, fantastic video and its awesome to get more viewpoints like this from creators like yourself in the space to see what people REALLY think of this series. Ash DID cheat. 100%!
Hey Infamous, that clip I remember watching back when I got back into Pokemon, it was u reacting to episode 25 of journeys, it was so hype then! U guys were the ones who inspired me to make anipoke content. Its possible if u didn't post that vid my channel may not have existed. Anyways thanks for watching
With Alain they should have done a ash Greninja and mega charizadd rematch during the final masters 8
It feels like this is the only series that didn’t have anything special or unique about it. The only parts I really enjoyed were the times past characters returned, but even then it only felt like they did that for the views because they barely mentioned what they had been up to since Ash last saw them. Except for Lillie and Gladion finding their dad, that really got me in the feels.
Ash should’ve become champion in Kalos then retire
Journeys had several issues plus Goh was just a tie-in to Pokemon Go with too much ease. They really just made Ash's last journey very rushed. There was a lot of filler & Galar was never explored as a region since a lot of episodes were going to other regions & Ash seeing old friends. Seeing the Galar region & the gyms in the anime as well as their gimmicks could've been very interesting but there was nobody interested in gym battles which Chloe could've filled that role
“In what world does ash not know type” I mean I still remember when he beat a ground type with a electric move and “not a type but he did use attract on a female emolga with his female snivy lmao
Tbh I thought the show was pretty solid...I just don't like how they pretty much half-assed characters like Chloe, aiming to develop characters to grow but then dropping them.
Journeys had so much missed opportunities. Like Ash using his reserves (they even had an episode about inferape running off to fight a moltries because he wanted to be in top condition in case Ash called upon him again but still didn’t let him use his previous teams) we could have gotten evolutions to some of Ash’s past Pokemon, like gible, the unovan starters, and his quilava (which they could have evolved into the hisui counterpart)
More development for Ash’s team (there was no reason why 80% of Ash’s battles in journeys was just pikachu also insineroar still never got to battle) they should have given him one of the galar starters (I personally think he should’ve gotten sobble because out of the 3, sobble was the only one who wanted to be strong for himself, scorbunny got strong both out of spite and because he didn’t want to be replaced and they were never going to evolve grookey that’s why I’m fine with Goh having it) they should have given Ash the opportunity to rematch Alain (and that should have been the battle to get him into the master’s 8, and I personally would have brought back Tobias for the masters 8 instead. They could have sent the gang to hisui (it still doesn’t make sense to me that we got 3 games in a year timeframe and we all know that the anime and the games coincide yet they could have had a lot more time with the series instead of rushing it). And they should have introduced Nemona in Journeys as well (because you are telling me that this champion trainer who is obsessed with Pokemon battles didn’t enter the Pokemon world tournament it doesn’t make any sense)
Restarting Ash's journey for his final series was a mistake. We could have seen bigger rematches with his toughest opponents, witness the learning and rise of Goh as Ash's student, and seen Ash use his old teams and recruit his best hitters from previous series for the Championship. Instead, we got subpar callbacks, a Goh who is as disconnected as Pokemon GO, and another confusing Ash timeline that ends with him defeating trainers with far more experience and knowledge in battle based on what we saw in the show.
They even remove Ash Grenninja which pissed me off I classified Journeys None Canon since it doesnt respect anything before it
maxquake on pikachu, Leon should have one. Also how was pikachu able to gMax with Ash never even practiced it, we saw the first attempt come out of nowhere in fail.
My personal problem with Pokemon Journeys is that it brings all possible characters back for a "rewind of the best" kinda deal but doesnt give the same amount of respect to Ashs pokemon that we watched alongside with him like Infernape or Sceptile
Instead it gives Ash a completely new team (minus pikachu obviously) that one of them, namely gengar, repeats a story beat 2 previous pokemon of Ash already had with Tepig and Charmander.and maybe its just me, but I dislike how seperated the supposed "team" feels like.
That feeling mostly stemming from the time Ash rather spent his time offscreening wallace with no difficulty yet somehow completely missing out on Chloes big event. Thats just one example though that comes trough my mind. Maybe there are more episodes that I missed.
I did mention it before, but I really dislike that Ash got a new team. I would have loved to see him assemble teams from what he already had made to fight the right opponents, still struggling because they knew it was coming or something ash didnt account for, but still coming out as the victor. I would have loved to see his all stars returning.
For example Primeape after decades of being "In training" from the first season could have come back as Annihilape as a teaser for the next gen. (Not saying as a teaser for the anime with him cuz it ends here, but just generally for the next generation)
I would have preferred him using his old pokemon rather than giving him fan favorites, because I think him using pokemon that aren't neceassily super popular pokemon can give them a day in the spotlight too, meanwhile fan favorites are already super popular.
Now I'm saying this as my own opinion and I think it's fine if you like what I dislike.
And I can totally think of reasons why they would give ash a new team rather than him using old pokemon, like newer viewers wouldnt need to watch decade old episodes to understand ashs relationship with certain pokemon.
I kind of agree, Man although I don’t think the series is terrible. It was a bit of a disappointment
the concept is amazing, but the execution was a bit swampy Goh is Mid he’s not terrible but he could’ve been better at least he’s better than
Koharu she was BORING as HELL and she barely feels like a Main Character plus we didn’t get that much Galar representation despite being a Gen 8 series and no, DLC are you kidding me let’s have some gray moments, but it would’ve been more great if it was executed better
It wasn’t miss opportunity for Ash use his old Pokémon again could’ve helped him out during the battles and even be a mentor tours his new Team Gible could have fully evolved into Garchomp Snivy could have fully evolved into Serperior Scraggy could have evolved into Scrafty to pair with Iris’s Haxorus Totodile could have fully evolved into Feraligatr and to see Ash’s old Pokémon like this Guys Oshawott could have fully evolved into Hisuian Samurott to promote legends Arceus so that Dawn’s Quilava evolves into Hisuian Typhlosion and Goh catches a Hisuian Decidueye at lease we got the Sword and Shield Series made by Zactoshi but there is a better version of this series made by two people Electro Pikachu and Zanolith that did the rewrite on journeys not completed, but they’re amazing you recommend you go check these out if you want a better version of journeys that all we need to say
Ash’s Pikachu did use more than 4 moves against Leon. When it endured the hit, Pikachu used rest and then Volt Tackle which is why Ash won.
Also, Ash lost his Championship title to Misty a couple of episodes later. This usually means a new journey and reset for Ash when he loses against a rival, but not this time.
One reason why I didn't like the show was that as soon as gohs scorbunny evolved into cinderace he was just like "yeah I'm never using you again so just stay in my pocket and only come out when there is food." "Insted I'm just gonna use my sobble who is not very strong but will eventually become inteleon but not yet"
And eventually switches out to Grookey which he’ll barely even use at all 💀
Because it didnt feel like a conclusion of Ash his whole journey. Ash should have been using his old Pokemon in rotation during this series. Journeys team was fine but the ultimate crown should have been him using his old Pokemon and become World Champion! Also making another protagonist in Goh was a big miss as well. He took up so much screen time from Ash and Chloe. Journeys sadly was all over the place. And also the battles were really stale most of the time compared to XY and Sun and Moon…
Netflix is gonna remove it
I am not watching much of the anime anymore. Only playing legends arceus
How’s that game going for you! I really wanted to play Legends: Arceus since I love gen 4!
3:52 not the cosplay fit 😭🙏
Now i wish ash never won 😢😢😢
Honestly they should have given ash sobble and made it just in galar
So many things pissed me off when watching Journeys. So, many missed opportunities:
If Ash was catching his first fossil, give it an adjustment arc. Dravovish to the new world and new body.
If Leon is hyped to be the strongest trainer ever, give him more screen time. Develop him as a rival.
Give Ash more consistent rivals that show his progress. Bea could have been that. Marnie, too.
Coronation progress needs to be shown on-screen!!!
Give him more Galar Pokémon so it has some more representation. Why didn't he catch Dragapult!!! It would have been perfect to connect him and Leon. Dreepy looking up to his.
Give Lucario a mega evolution training arc if it was established to be difficult in XY.
DON'T RETCON ASH-GRENINJA!!! BRING HIM BACK!!!
Give more on-screenbonding and training time with his Pokemon so his wins don't feel forced.
Give Ash time with Serena!!!
Go to old regions to visit places that weren't in their designated series.
Ash needed a rematch with controversial losses like Alain and Tyson.
The Ash vs. Steven win felt forced.
Bring back old Pokemon for the coronation series!!!
If they're going to show that the Latias from Pokemon Hero's is canon, GIVE IT TO ASH!!!
Scrap Chloe and Goh.
I can think of more...
i personally enjoy journeys a lot. i think the only point i agree with is that ash never used his older pokemon in the world coronation series and masters 8
as someone who tries to complete pokedexes, i like goh. i think the problem most viewers have is that it was such a major shift in the formula
Glad I wasn't the only one who inwardly felt like Ash did not deserve the win against Leon. I was really hyped for how Journeys started. It felt nice to meet new characters. What really started to make me think the show had problems was when go caught Suicune in a pokeball that easily. I was in shock and disbelief and it somehow triggered me.
And then the later half, i was bored with the project Mew arc since it didn't catch my attention unless it had Gary there.
And don't even get me started with the Masters 8 arc. In my opinion, it was handled poorly with the exceptions of a few battles. Any of Ash's battles felt like plot armor or the writers had to make the opponent hold back to give Ash even a chance at winning
It really upsets me that pretty much half of the cast of Sword and Shield were completely neglected by this series, when we could have had Bede, Nessa, Melony, Mustard and several others. I will appreciate them bringing back a lot of fan-favorite characters, but what INFURIATES me is that these oversensitive weaklings brought back everyone EXCEPT FOR MAY! All because Japanese writers are complete pansies who think that replacing voice actors is "insensitive". Please tell me Japan is not this stupid!
lay only replace them when Lay are no longer alive
there are some who don't even get the pokemon journey anime is the same as the japan dub footage just with different name for the humans and pokemons and Japanese stuff removed off of building and signs before being aired out side of Japan six months later on
@@chrisclack4258 what the heck is Lay?
Paul should be in the world correlarion series
It was so bad that I only came for Lucario and left the moment his screen time vanished 💀
lil bro ash just said: "aight we getting strapped this time."
First off who said that this was the best pokémon series The only reason why the hype was there is because Ash won the world championship become the greatest of all time but it was no way the best. 😅 The reason why it's become hated is because of a lot of factors Goh a character who was wasted when they could have just easily brought back Brock Misty May Dawn anybody else or they could have introduced us to the Galar female or male protagonist instead. And then don't even started with Chloe what a waste of time Oh wow she hasn't even that refuses to evolve and they're going to find their own way Who cares You could have brought back any previous female companion at that point you know nobody cares about another EV journey for no reason because it didn't lead to nothing but she was a waste of space and a waste of time. Then if it's a world coordination championship why wouldn't Ash have a rotating reserved team and why wouldn't he bring the best of the best You get what I'm saying. Then the only guy some of the people that was in the final championship was characters who already got defeated already why do we need to see them again or we didn't get rematches for characters that we wanted to see no characters from most of the series didn't really appear which would have made more sense like where is Richie at You don't know what I'm saying Where's Casey where's Tyson You know what I'm saying Harrison where are all these characters at and then again wasting time with Goh when nobody asks for him him just catching pokémon like you ain't nobody business Ash not catching any starter pokémon and barely any pokémon from the Galar region except for one. Forgetting about the bond phenomenon between Greninja and him You know what I mean miscellaneous episodes that felt more like filler than anything else not really haven't a progressive story really Yes you have a goal but that's about it really You need something else. It just kind of was under delivered honestly and it could have been better but it wasn't so there's a lot of factors in it especially when we already know that I should have wanted XYZ but they gave it to him in Sun and Moon as us apology for their screw-ups and X and y and then they do this with the world poor nation championship and yes they want to ask to win but the last two series which was Sun and Moon in journeys just kind of got lazy and just kind of forgot about pokémon battling almost just so they can push these unnecessary mechanics in the pokémon games that nobody asks for. And on top of that weird is his friends everybody that made a connection to Ash should have been front row and center at that tournament and the fact that we never really got to see the Galar Region at all so we just kind of felt like if you're going to wrap up Ash's story then you need to wrap it up properly with all of his friends pokémon all of them come into celebrate his achievement and not some half-ass world coordination tournament that was really rushed through It wasn't even put together correctly and that's saying something. It was just a lackluster show for what it was worth Yeah did it have a few highs yet but it had more lows than highs and that's the problem.
"already know that I should have wanted XYZ but they gave it to him in Sun and Moon as us apology for their screw-ups and X and y and then they do this with the world poor nation championship" But you know that ash lost five regional leagues before XY 😏