What we learned from Ireland's defeat to South Africa | RTÉ Rugby podcast
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- Neil Treacy is joined by Bernard Jackman on this week's RTÉ Rugby podcast to recap Saturday's first Test defeat against South Africa, and look ahead at this weekend's final game of the season in Durban.
Jackman gives his thoughts on the devastating injury blow to hooker Dan Sheehan, and how the Irish scrum and lineout will be affected by his absence.
We also examine how South Africa's attack in the first half caused real problems for Ireland, and discuss how the Springboks could become a dominant force with their new attacking strategy.
And the podcast also discusses why Ireland need to work on their communication skills when dealing with referees, with Caelan Doris struggling to get on the right side of Luke Pearce last week.
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From a South-African.
Great podcast guys! Very open, very appreciative and very informative! Dont take qll the overhype personal. I appreciate the Irish, I have family living in Brey and we love the Irish. I hope for a great game again on Saturday. Win or not.
Go well bro!
I live in Bray!! What's they're name and I'll go and shake their hand!! 😅
Lovely to see Irish fans out in SA. Hope you are enjoying your stay! Looking forward to the game on Saturday!
A Springbokkie is a shooter of 2/3 peppermint liquer topped with Amarula. You missed out!! Glad you enjoyed Loftus and the Bulls fans. It is a lot!!
Amarula is super yummy. Get you a bottle before you leave.
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It's all fun and games until you're throwing up South African flag colours 😂😂
"Could've been some of your best work, Neil!" 🤣
@@kierontreas5971 😂😂😂
Welcome to all Irish fans! Its nice to have all of you here. The next test will be a humdinger and I cannot wait. Here is to a great game and may the best team win.
Is that irony? SA are fielding it's most capped team ever, while Ireland have lost most of their team to injury, funny that. I have noticed the late tackles, ie Kwagga leaping onto Osborne after he scored his try, sort of obvious why Ireland have half a team, but at least Razzie has manipulated his reputation in SA, so possible career injuries don't really matter.
@@geoffnelson6756 Keep crying, bud. While you are at it why don't you order ballet shoes for your Ireland team. FFS, get a life.
@@geoffnelson6756lol this guy been crying on every channel since Saturday
@@teatime6414 well If Ireland had rightfully won that game, there'd be thousands of yapping boks fans on here, just giving you a bit of your own medicine. Fun, isn't it
@@RikiLouw69 Size 12 please, as they are big tough guys!
Bernard Jackman gets it right more often than not, class.
The way you said uMhlanga beautiful man 🤝
Agreed!
Kings Park in many ways is quite different to Loftus but an equally brilliant ground to watch a match. Pre and post match vibe is excellent, food and beverage options abound... The stands are really quite steep and the noise of a capacity crowd is deafening.
I hope the Irish now realise that the online banter and media stuff exists in a vacuum and is not the state of South African supporters.
So true. Online social media has always been a cesspit. South Africans are good people who love their team. Nothing wrong with that.
and vica versa- online is just toxic, and thankfully not as bad on youtube
Yes but you must understand that there is a level of insecurity and psychological damage that comes with losing 8 world cup quarter finals
@@greatleapforwards no there’s not. The vast majority of them we don’t care about. Because rugby was a tiny sport played in 2 or 3 cities. That was it. These days we know we will beat it, it’s not such a big deal. The media play it up. We met an amazing NZ team who defended for their lives and won it by a held up try. They deserved it. Doesn’t mean we won’t ever get past a QF 🤣
@@LeMerch yeah...the media is a big catalyst in pushing this agenda. What a lot of my south african countrymen don't understand is that rugby will always play second stage to GAA. I was going to go watch at the pub, but the hurling semi took centre stage!
Ireland are one hell of a team. As a Boks supporter - I love the Irish team. Less so when they play us. But they have some phenomenal players. And just refuse to go away, they do not know when they are beaten!! Also.....Ireland is responsible for some of the BEST rugby in the last 2 years. Ireland v France (2023); Ireland v Boks (2023); Ireland v ABs (2023); Ireland v France (2024); Ireland v England (2024) and Ireland v Boks (2024). Some bloody outstanding rugby!!
Damn, international rugby is so healthy at the moment. SA, ire, nz, eng,fra and maybe scotland wil all be competitive games. Think glasgows win are going to give scotland a major boost
Scotland? Their opposition are all tier 2 nations. Canada, USA, Chile and Uruguay. Once again, they duck the big guns.
@@St_AngusYoung didnt they beat eng in six nations? And lost to france with a last min kick? I would say they are closing the gap between them and the big dogs.
@@Kransduifthey haven’t played NZ in NZ since 2000, haven’t been to Australia in 7 years and last played the Boks in RSA in 2014. They’re ducking the SH big guns.
@@St_AngusYoung I know but SA Aus and NZ arent fireworks either
But you have a valid point. Its just that they are 100% better than they always were. Nov tests going to be good
Ireland put up a heck of a fight. Out of the 2 teams the Boks certainly looked to be more in control but Ireland never lay down. Both teams missed lots of opportunities, the tmo played their inevitable part. Its test rugby.
I look forward to another epic clash on the weekend.
Ireland gonna be better
Boks gonna be better
So, will be a good game
That's putting it lightly, Doris try was clearly grounded, so 7 points there, the other TMO calls could easily have gone the other way, so 17 -21 points more to Ireland and 7 less for SA, an honest outcome would have resulted in a comfortable win for Ireland.
@@geoffnelson6756clearly grounded but I could see if it was on the line? Did you gat angles we did not get
@@geoffnelson6756 Doris's "try" would cancel out Murray's try.
@@geoffnelson6756biased as always. Post a link here that show a clear grounding🤔
If you think watching rugby at Loftus is something special, wait until this Saturday at King's Park. As someone who lived for 24 years in Durban and used to be a season ticket holder, all I can say is 'wait for the after party'! All the cars parked on the outer fields having braaivleises, it;s really something. Health warning - if the Boks lose, the party will close at about 2 in the morning. If they win, the party could still be going on at dawn. Or later.
I could only wish you got the best possible experience in South Africa. Loftus isn't for the feint of heart, especially as a visiting Rugby supporter. feel like the SA supporters that get all the attention are the keyboard warriors online where SA can do no wrong and could beat any other team with their eyes closed. But in person, the real supporters respect the game and all other teams. One of the things that stands out for me in Rugby is the respect the players have for each other after the game, shaking hands, swapping jerseys, and having a beer. I wish that carried over more and would prevent some of these annoying SA supporters online. We aren't all like that. I can't wait for the next battle at Durban.
I must admit it is rather depressing seeing some of the horrible comments coming from some SA supporters. However, comments like yours are much more interesting and restore my faith in humanity and good sportsmanship.
@@neilmontgomery3470 In general most rugby supporters have supported rugby all their lives and in SA that means living the ethos of rugby. Enemies on the field, brothers off the field. These nasty keyboard warriors ruin the game online.
England fan here hoping Dan Sheenan injury not going to be that bad. Devastating for the lad if he’s thinking no six nations next year. great player and wish him well. Should be a great six nations and love to take on a full strength Irish team in Dublin. Still feel Ireland can win this Saturday, though feel a bit of despondency amongst Irish fans. 🏴🇮🇪
I heard Bongi mention to the ref a few times that the irish pull back in the scrum. Like after the hit the would pull back instead of hold so the boks couldn't set up for the hit
I don't think Ireland showed a lack of energy in the first few minutes. I just think they were caught off guard with the pace and accuracy the springboks attacked the wide channels. And I think Osborne just underestimated Arendse's speed at which he can change his direction of running. It was a very intense test, both sides felt the pressure.
Yeah he was playing your position as well. But he really grew into the game. he just overshot on defence and arendse easily stepped him.
You missed out springbokkies is mint liquor and amarula cream shot , and should always accept the hospitality , the afrikaaners are incredible hosts loving all visitors , even if you support the wrong team , they will buy you a drink and share their biltong with you . Even if they loose they are so passionate about the sport , and love the contest pointing out their teams flaws and your good play ore the other way round if they win .
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As usual a great podcast.Pleasure to listen too.The game itself is the most important.Fair balanced and insightful. Thanks
We were at Loftus last week as a family all with Irish tops and flags and had a great time. It was intimidating and very loud but never threatening. A Bok test at Loftus should be on every rugby fan's bucket list.
It makes me happy to hear you enjoyed the time in Preroria and the people were good to you. I hope you have the same experience in Durban.💪
The Casey incident was a rugby incident, hence the reaction from all players. Very unfortunate for Casey.
Spent a lot of time in Umhlanga Rocks. Nice place, ja?
May the best team win a warm welcome to the Irish such a great loving rugby nation just like south africa
RG Snyman made a legal tackle. You can’t penalise players for making legal tackles even if the outcome was unfortunate.
He was offside so not legal, the tackle was not necessarily dangerous but 6'8 v 5'5, its only going to have one outcome.
I don't really have a problem with the tackle. I was just a little disappointed that he didn't show any concern for a player he had just knocked unconscious. He's obviously under no obligation to do so, but to play on after potentially seriously injuring a player you've spent the last 2 years or so playing with was just a little sad to see.
It's test rugby at the end of the day, but part of what makes it special to me as a fan are those moments of sportsmanship where players look out for each other when things go wrong.
@@BaneofBalor Agreed. Truthfully I haven’t watched it back so I’m not 100% sure if he knew he was knocked out but if he did he should atleast make the ref aware of the situation so the game can be stopped.
If I was going to try and defend his actions as if he knew he was knocked out I’d say potentially if Ireland weren’t in the springboks 22 he may have shown more concern but I can’t know if that would be true or not.
@@geoffnelson6756After reviewing the tackle the referee decided to take no action. Just wanting the player to be offside, does not make it so.
Legal tackle, I relayed and rewatched, you can definitely see RG's eyes were focused on the maul and not the player under him. He didn't realize he was out, the first person to realize was the Irish prop infront of them, the ref that was standing the closest to the action didn't even realize. Bad luck, we all, including RG, are hoping the Irish scrumie is OK. We demand the ultimate determination from our players, we cannot then go and say "He should have held back"
I was with a Welsh friend when we went to watch the Welsh play the Boks at Loftus and he was wearing a red jersey. The Welsh lost 95 - 3 or something like that. He never bought a drink all night after the game as these huge Afrikaners kept coming up to him and saying "Ag shame man... let me buy you a drink". He was blitzed at the end of the night.
Glad you had a great time at Loftus.. South Africans were recently voted the friendliest nation on the planet and we are happy that you experienced some of that. Welcome to SA and enjoy the rest of your stay 🇿🇦
Ireland is great team and is not going down without a fight springbok supporter bring it on 🇿🇦❤🏉
South Africans are super friendly. Glad you had a good time.
I would agree with Bernard, Herring much better at lineout and scrum
SA trying to play like Leinster backs, Leinster trying to play like the old SA! 😂😂
Springbok drink is creme peppermint liqueur and Cape velvet, enjoy 😊
No! It's peppermint liqueur topped with amarula or Bailey's
Earned my subscription from 🇿🇦 great chat fellas!
The shark tank best rugby atmosphere at kings park, the braais are legendary then the drinks continue at durban country club.
Welcome Ireland and her people. Good game this past weekend. Looking forward to a more open game this weekend. I hope it becomes a humdinger of a match and both teams go tongs and hammers at each other. Loftus Versfeld is our citadel thus the atmosphere is so intimidating to visiting teams and fans. The Springboks are us and we are the Springboks, thus we are rugby mad.
I expect Ireland to come back stronger this weekend. Love the battle so far. Go Bokke
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I'm a Springbok fan, but above that, i enjoy good rugby, and i habe to say, i think Ireland was very clever at scrum time!
Good podcast guys. Thanks
Excellent podcast. Bernard Jackman is a legend. Thanks Neil for hosting. Hope you find some good craic in Durban as well.
From Cape Town. Great discussion.
That Robbie Henshaw WASN'T sent for a HIA after his collision with Kolisi was appalling.
You guys rock. Like the pod
BJ's right. Irish players have gotten into the terrible habit of continuously chatting in the ref's ear. Maybe it sways officials for the odd decision. But I think the overall effect is irritating. It's annoying just to watch sometimes.
Going up and telling the likes of Luke Pearce he got the last decision wrong is not going to help your team. If he feels you're questioning or undermining his authority, he'll turn against you straight away. You really just want to get him to alter the way he views a similar situation in future. You need a good rapport to do that. But I would agree that Pearce turned against Doris very quickly on Sat. Dismissive to the point of disrespectful.
The problem is that they’re not forceful enough they keep saying okay sir. Rather than saying look there on the wrong side the slowing The ball down and the game down we wanna play fast would like you to deal with this. If the ref says okay I’ll keep an eye out for it perfect if not then inform the ref that any person got on the wrong side from here on out is getting studs. he either in forces or you will . We have to stop coming off as whiny though and be more forceful with the ref.
The Irish defence was very resilient, brave , hard tackling by us.
20 min discussion on snyman tackle was a waste of air. gave up on this
Casey-Snyman discussion spanned 19.00-22.00 i.e. exactly 3 mins / not sure if you were having an episode or what.
You are VERY mistaken if you think that the best AB teams didn't have the forwards - I think that is WHY they were the best AB teams. Look at the forwards of the teams from 2011 to 2016 - absolutely world class. When they got the forwards to match their backs they were almost unplayable. They were playing total rugby. From a Bok supporter - we can recognise class when we see it.
Irish have a quality side. They managed to break the SA defense and produced tries out of nothing. I think the second test is equally unpredictable as the first. Bok supporter.
well balanced chat overall. but the RG Snyman tackle was fair. There seemed to be a bit of mumbling on this point. The Irish players did not react adversely which confirms is was a good tackle.
Very enjoyable podcast guys.
South Africans are extremely friendly . Enjoy your time in our beautiful country
Pretoria is definitely quite unique even in South Africa with the strong Afrikaans culture still alive here. I see a lot of people complaining about online discourse being toxic and whatever, people come on, have you just now learnt about the internet? Things are tame compared to when it was unregulated in the wild west early days on forums.
There's a distinct lack of leadership across the team. They can't even make a decision to kick for the corner or take points. A proper leader would also stop some of this unnecessary showboating that led that ridiculous decision by Lowe to try and catch the ball in touch.
Fantastic crazy environment at Loftus- I love it. But the Kings Park pre and after party is something else because the women there like to wear the skimpiest they can. It goes LONG into the night...
I think rassie plans on playing this boks starting team until their 60 years of age
15 plus points this weekend to boks. Its a thumping been coming a long while
I disagree with Jackman that the great ABs team weren’t strong up front. They were very strong up front with Woodcock, Moody, Coles, Mealamu, Franks brothers, Retallick, Whitock, Thorn, Kaino, McCaw, Reid.
People only remember the flashy wins but they won a number of matches playing direct rugby and dominating up front with a strong defence and kicking game.
Boks will be 40% better this weekend. Don't think Pollard will miss any kicks this time.
Ireland need to get more physical with SA and stop taking shit off them, they're soft underneath
James Ryan is no captain. He gives the impression that if someone hit him he'd cry.
@@HenryBaggins-rz7mq all the south africans are on drugs...fact
Don't mistake braai pap for soft....soft is covered next week.....the breakdown is ours...
Yes just like that , prove that they are soft even though you are softer
Really? Hard to see any evidence for that. We lost to a good side, in difficult circumstances, but stayed in the fight.
Snymans last thanks to Munster
Proper stuff, here. Well come to eMzansi mgita!!!
The thing with Casey was purely a rugby incident. It was unfortunate he got his head but there was nothing there really …
Are you actually having a laugh? Guy comes from an offside position, tackles scrum-half with ball literally nowhere to be seen driving scrum-half backwards as hard as he can + knocking him unconscious in the process - oh yeah, all literally under Luke Pearce's nose. You're obviously destined for international refereeing cos yourself + Luke were apparently on the same page i.e. nothing to see here - anyone with critical faculties would describe it as a late + dangerous tackle off the ball. Then again between them Pearce + Whitehouse didn't deem it worthy of even a cursory review. And people wonder why parents don't want their kids playing this game SMFH
Don't engage with them unless you enjoy a toxic atmosphere?
Interesting fact. If Ireland and England lose by even one point on Saturday, New Zealand will move up to second and Ireland down to 3rd on the rankings
It is hard for an Irishman to cheer for England , almost as hard as it is for a bok to cheer for the ab's
@malcolmcuthbertson3359 I feel you though. 😂. We as Saffers even though I'm "English" South African, would much rather cheer for NZ than for England any day of the week.
We do cheer for the ABs. We respect our greatest foe of all time, its like a dysfunctional relationship: miss them when they're gone, hate them when they are on our doorstep. Ireland is starting to enter the love triangle 😂 On a side note: a team that receives banter or "abuse" from Springbok fans is a team we see as worthy to argue with. It's a compliment. In a weird way.@@malcolmcuthbertson3359
@@malcolmcuthbertson3359 We all support the AB's unless they play against us. UP the South.....
I'm an Irishman and I'm shouting for England every day no matter the rankings. English rugby fans are generally humble even considering our rivalries.
Six Nations time is probably the best atmosphere.
Lol a springbok is a shooter, its peppermint liqueur and amarula/baileys cream. Its considered quite "tame" as far as shooters go, compared to say jager or tequila
Genuine question: precisely what did RG Snyman do wrong?
He came from an offside position, tackled Casey with ball literally nowhere to be seen driving Casey backwards as hard as he could + knocking him unconscious in the process, all literally under Luke Pearce's nose. So a late + dangerous tackle off the ball / however between them Pearce + Whitehouse didn't deem it worthy of even a cursory review - go figure.
@@patrickoleary2862Saffas are blind when their players are in wrong, yet cry a river when same done to them
Beirne should be captain for this year. Doris will come good though.
POM has had his day don't see why where clinging on to him would like to see tadgh bernie play six, 9 and 10 replacements have become major weak points. Frawley needs to be looked at, still way to early for Prendergast and Gunn but need as much exposure as possible
Have a look at the U20 Boks line up. Some exsta Bomb sqaud members is coming soon!!!!
What's your take on why they underperformed so much against Argentina?
@@myshepspud1A team can be weak but that doesn't mean there aren't individual players that stand out. Couple those with the right players and it will paint a different picture... I'm pretty sure you could have answered that yourself.
@@myshepspud1honestly I think SARU drug their feet assigning an U20s coach. He was only appointed in March and the team is not faring well under him. You would expect them to have improved since the U20 Rugby Championships but they seemed to have declined. While al the other teams from that competition have improved markedly. So although he is still in his first year, there doesnt seem to be much progress with the young team. So will see if he gets a full year like the new 7s coach before he gets booted or if it will happen sooner. Seeing as these lads will need to go into SA A side within 2 years, I'll bet he doesnt get that long with the lack of performances so far. We'll see.
I can say the Irish ☘️ team is good definitely 3rd in the world I don’t think they better then SA or New Zealand that’s just the facts of the game if you look up the past games overall and the fact they haven’t been to a final yet just says they aren’t number 1 yet
Gibon park a massive loss
If we had either JGP or Hugo Keenan for this game I think we win. With those 2 plus Hansen it's game over.
@@geoffnelson6756 If? If the dog hadn't stopped for a shit, it would have won the race.
@@jzkramer er, think you are lost, we are on a rugby discussion not greyhound racing, but such an eloquent use of words, you should be very proud of yourself.
@@geoffnelson6756 They would have won by 50 points easily...
@@geoffnelson6756 ya 100 percent my friend with those 3 players we win personally though the boks were lucky I can see us pipping them Saturday
You can be grateful you did not get a dubbel Klipdrift brandewyn en coke from the supporters you bumped into.
Cmon Springboks lets get this done. Looking forward to playing Wales or Scotland again 😅. Clearly some teams just cant handle the world champions. I say we dont play England as well for what they tried to do before the wc final😂😂. Smh
What did England try and do before the rwc final ?
As a neutral, England played well and lost in the final minutes to the Boks by a single point in the Semi in Paris . They played well against NZ
Why wouldn't you want the Boks to play them ?
@@patrickchilds2987 Uhmm Curry tried to spread lies about Bongi, trying to disrupt the whole team chemistry before WC with NZ. Which was so Classless IMO
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So you think a racial slur allegation between Curry and Bongi in the fame was a deliberate attempt to disruption the chemistry within tje Bok team 😁❤️
Which are you stupid or really gullable 🤔
So many injuries and the Boks didn't play their normal physical game 😂. I'm stupid I'm sorry lads
Way better than OTB
I am not surprised with your narrative on Doris's captaincy, Murray Kinsella who apparently is in your journo bubble also made the same commentary, the reality is far more nuanced. The ref / captain relationship is a two way street, to many refs giving legendary playing captains like McCaw an armchair ride and Doris been given tetchy treatment from refs who are still getting to know him and his style of leadership. Also Doris is not being helped by O'Mahoney starting as captain even though everybody including the referee knows O'Mahoney will not finish the game. Starting O'Mahoney as captain in these circumstances undermines Doris's credibility with the referee from the off and establishing a repour mid match for even the most seasoned of captains is not as easy as it is being betrayed by echo chamber of Irish Journalism.
One does not simply decline a springbokkie 😂
These boys play rugby on paper and not on grass
Ok, you Durbs? Need to get you a chips, cheese and double mutton gravy johnnies roti before you leave!
It's so hard to listen to Bernard Jackman saying 'ehm', 'eeehhh', 'eeeehhmmm' after every second word. I can't listen to him anymore. Infuriating.
In the rugby 7's SA were gifted 7 points, scoring a try from a dead ball, thankfully justice was done in that game and Ireland came away with the win, just a pity we didn't get a fair shout at Loftus.
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No mention of porters illegal scrummaging?
Because he wasn’t scrummaging illegally there was a big thing about porters hips being out he fix that and used his power to completely drive The Springbok pack backwards even though the Springbok tighthead kept binding on porters arm.
Drive the springbok pack backwards? You mean from the 5m line to over the try line for a penalty try?@@ciaranbrk
Don’t vermouth a Springbokkie! That is like insulting the principles of an extremist religion and may start a holy war 😂😂😂😂 Make sure you have one before you leave South Africa. Most bars and pubs serve them here.
No frills at Loftus you say ... typical euro-centric comment. Otherwise, great podcast, you guys are class. Dear Irish scrum, Kelleher, Ryan, Flier and co. ...ouch, more to come!!
Honestly, games like Saturday's - and of course the RWC - do so much for rugby union. Hats off to all the teams - even the ABs(!) - for showing how great the game is. Onwards and Upwards!
You learned that even a rusty South Africa, who didnt play since the wod cup final, experimenting with a new style of play beat Ireland.
Listening to Neil it sounds like South Africans are really nice......except the crowd that keep showing up in the comments section of Irish podcasts obviously.
@@cjmyers1654 Bow down to South African rugby, you were the ones that were chatting shit and arrogant these past 2 years.
Welcome to Umhlanga Rocks. Enjoy your time in Durban.
Let the best side win on Saturday.
Cheers from Umdloti
(close to Umhlanga)
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Pay no attention to the keyboard warriors. They don't represent us @@cjmyers1654
@@jadenphilander8799 A man telling Irish fans to bow down in veneration of SA rugby while accusing others of being arrogant? Outstanding logic you got right there ya absolute hypocrite. Pundits are the ones doing the talking, not the average fans
Actually you were wise to walk away from drinking with a South African. 😂
Ireland to be humbled (again) like it's a quarterfinal.
Why are you so negative 😂all the other saffas in the comments are lovely/ this isn’t a World Cup and ireland were not humbled ffs. It’s unfortunate the guy on the left is saying how nice the SA fans were and here you are giving them a bad name
Irish people, in general, are humble. I just hope we don’t gift you another game.
@@SmcdMcd-d2k so if I say Ireland will lose I'm being negative? Ahh ok.
@@lizzyhanahoe4197 what 😅😅
@@sandorclegane3658 no you can say that.. but you said humbled and brought up a wc qf.
South africas motm a 3 way tie between the ref, the tmo and James lowe.
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And the Northern hemisphere never complains about the referee? Its a joke.
What have you learned? Well, Boks are the world champions. Ireland still haven't learned how to win a quarter final 😂😂😂
I know right, we are a very poor team, last Saturday we played so bad it was just embarrassing, that is why the world champions, the best team in the world the number 1 thrashed us by such a high score, bravo, you must be so proud.
And today you learned a little humility.
@@taintabird23congratulations on the last minute drop doal victory. Well deserved. We just didn't pitch up in the first half. Simple as that. Just one question, has that changed the fact that we are back to back, four time and current world champions? Nope. Has Ireland ever won a world cup quarter final? No. See how it works? You have to win when it matters. A drawn series is what it is. Just No 1 v No 2 belting it out for 80 minutes. Sleep tight
@@kurukoei It mattered today, and you lost. In your own back garden. You have to win when it matters.
Congratulations on your world cups, they are obviously very important to South Africans as they can't stop talking about them, but you lost today, again, against a team you have no respect for.
You're supposed to win every time, South Africa are supposed to be the best. You can't even beat the Irish when it counts - at the world cup.
See how this works? We know about our shortcomings, and you cannot accept yours.
Its not good just winning the world cup, you have to be able to back it up. Lets see you coming second in the Rugby Championship again, and claiming to be the best in the world with a 66% win rate under Rassie.
Farrell has no world cups, but he has a 75% win rate against South Africa alone!
It's far from irelands best performance,
Missing key players from the start with the boks fully loaded
Massive respect to irelands defense and a last minor point , if Crawley had his kicking boots on it would have been a draw .
Huge heart from ireland ,
This weekend I believe will be a mountain to climb with our new injury list , respect to both teams for one hell of a game
If Pollard also had his kicking boots, that another 9 points for SA so can’t really count one and not the other. Think both teams weren’t at their best but still produced a great game. Think this weekend will be better.
The Casey incident was a rugby incident, hence the reaction from all players. Very unfortunate for Casey.