Power vs. Peace: Inside the Ruling Styles of Ainz & Rimuru ⚔️👑

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  • Опубликовано: 14 ноя 2024

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  • @daGama1915
    @daGama1915 2 дня назад +34

    You got Overlord all wrong, probably because you haven't read the novels. The Sorcerous Kingdom is not ruled by fear, and everyone who comes to know Ainz personally is surprised by how human he is. Ainz's plan for his domains is one of inclusivity (all races are welcome and equal under Nazarick's flag), equality (all are equal under Nazarick's flag), and fair labor (he was an exploited salaryman and doesn't want it upon others [yes, he says ipsis literis that he doesn't want to create a nation in which people suffered like Herohero]). About diplomacy, The Sorcerous Kingdom is not so aggressive as the video says. The Draconic Kingdom, Empire, and Sacred Kingdom were treated fairly when it comes to diplomacy (not so much when it comes to espionage and intelligence). The only country that got the short end of the stick until now was the kingdom, and not even so much by Ainz's choice. And as a final nail on the coffin, Jura Tempest basically did the same with the kingdom that invaded them. If not by the fact that Nazarick seeks world domination (Demiurgus idea plus hands forced by the Theocracy), their international relations would be pretty much the same.
    On a different note, when it comes to politics and the relations between people, groups, and nations, Tensura's world is more of a fantasy, while Overlord's is realist to the extreme. The upbeat, nice guy attitude of Rimuru simply wouldn't work in a world like that of Overlord. Unfortunately that's how states and nations work.

    • @Itsmesaucekayuchibi
      @Itsmesaucekayuchibi 2 дня назад

      So basically ainz runs a communist nation

    • @drago9191
      @drago9191 2 дня назад +6

      I pretty much agree as I have read light novel of both works😂

    • @waverwalet6124
      @waverwalet6124 День назад +5

      Rimuru did the same thing as Ainz, one side genocide the weaker army to gain power. The only difference is Rimuru's narrator is much kinder and the guy was able to seen the end of days. If we put Rimuru mind into Ainz body, it will end with him getting backstab.

    • @drago9191
      @drago9191 День назад +1

      @@waverwalet6124 true so true

    • @tcironbear21
      @tcironbear21 День назад

      Dude, Ainz"s political power is based on brain washing. Most of his followers were made artificially loyal and then constantly try to find excuses to remain loyal. New followers are essentially over awed by old followers.
      The day Ainz's followers realize the truth is the day that den of brainwashed psychopaths begin their inevitable implosion.

  • @nedgos1877
    @nedgos1877 2 дня назад +14

    I suppose this analysis is mostly based on the anime, since in the novel, the sorcerer kingdom is far from being a country ruled by fear and power.

    • @aaronzaugg9040
      @aaronzaugg9040 2 дня назад +3

      Dude is literally inviting dwarves, dryads, goblins, war trolls (well, one civilized one, at least), and foreign adventurers to come be part of a multi species utopia and they willingly come for greater options. But sure, it’s all fear and privity of choice….

  • @jesusdanielmiguelcova2360
    @jesusdanielmiguelcova2360 2 дня назад +8

    Well technically ainz loyalty doesn't come from fear, the ones who are loyal to him feel or believe that he is kind of a god, some go to extreme to want to conquer the world even if he didn't want to haha.
    Is like comparing a country to a cult hahaha

    • @drago9191
      @drago9191 2 дня назад +1

      Ainz loyalty comes from stick and sweet strategy like what about Carne village or dwarf kingdom
      Like they also leave a lot of info out of the anime like you slaughter 70000 and then take a city of the same kingdom and make its people respect you that's a true king right there🎉

  • @knightoflight8249
    @knightoflight8249 День назад +1

    Before I answer “how I would rule if I got Isekai’d into another world where I was powerful enough to make serious decisions to change it”, I would have to determine my current situation and survive while investigating exactly how I came to be there first. I would be forced to start thinking critically and not throw anything out of the question. My circumstances can be the result of some freak cosmic event, Divine intervention, aliens playing some sick joke, a delusion of epic proportions, or I’m in the matrix and always have been and I just experienced the settings change while being aware of it. After going through an existential crisis and serious self reflection if I was still sane I would just focus on investigating the meaning of my own existence first and foremost and not just wave off such an experience like it’s no big deal like every other anime protagonist. If I ever do discover the reason and purpose of that and why I was isekai’d in the first place if there was one I would first determine exactly what kind of world I ended up in and figuring out a way to either survive there or return home. I would need to start learning of that world’s nations and people’s history/politics, geography, philosophy, moral ethics, culture, art, currency system, laws, regulations, religions, sociology, military power, current civilization level based off the Kardashev scale, water sources, edible foods, dangerous diseases, dangerous animals, dangerous beings other than humans, anything I have no prior experience with such as magic/the force/etc, and if I can even blend in. After all that I would have to determine if I even cared about that world outside of having to adapt to live in it. They’re moral ethics are a big issue here for me, if they’re trash, extremely dangerous, perverse, exclusive for certain groups of people, driven by extremely questionable sources, or worse than all non-existent, then I would just let that world burn. Trying to change how people think about things that are right and wrong is extremely time consuming and pointless if their people are stubborn or just plain stupid. I wouldn’t want to rule over a bunch of cave men, savages, ideological radicals, deprave religious zealots, or fools, I have standards. If they meet my standards of even peaking any interest in going out of my way to make me want to rule them I would go about it more like Ainz than Rimuru. Ainz’s own methods are far more realistic when dealing with other beings with free will. Rimuru’s is far too idealistic and dependent on other people having the same mindset as him which is impossible in real life. Not to say Rimuru isn’t a bad leader it’s just that I know his circumstances and ability, and they are not very translatable to most situations. In our own history the French and Russian Revolutions come to mind, the English civil wars, the current wars in the Middle East, the Chinese civil wars, Nobunaga’s attempt to unify Japan, the Korean-Japanese War, Spain’s conquest of the new world, Islam’s rise to power, The Mongols, and even the American Revolution. Other people in real life aren’t as “go with flow” like the people in Tempest, even if it’s for the betterment of all, because of greed.

  • @AnimeFanClub786
    @AnimeFanClub786 День назад +1

    If Ainz ruled like rimuru he would have 100% or very likely be killed and suffered a lot before that.
    He was in an unknown world, wanted to find others like him and didn't want the kingdom he built with his friends to be trampled and looted by outsiders.
    If rimuru was in Overlord world without that broken system then she would have simply been some exotic beast slave.

  • @Ethan03887
    @Ethan03887 День назад +1

    I’d rule like a mix anarch capitalist and work for what you want so if you want to make a sword you either pay someone to get the materials and you make it or do it all yourself and the nation would go on 3 things for most of the time
    1. Militarism (to make sure nobody does anything stupid to my people/nation)
    2. Self reliance (from nation wide to individual self reliance on most things)
    3. Industrialism (if the setting allows for it and if not then just the first two and some others smaller things that would and/or could make sense) 👌❓😎

  • @glennschmidt3445
    @glennschmidt3445 3 дня назад +4

    both rule with an iron fist slime just is less aggressive they overthrow like 4 kingdoms in the story and the point of the demon lord moniker is to direct the humans hatred towards hating them and fighting them so the angles don't destroy everything and everyone. they turned people into meat cubes and soon millions of people are going to die in a war against him in the anime and he takes control over almost all facets of the i guess deep state that really controls the countries with the Primark's just like ainzs did with the fingers. main difference is ainz doesn't care if he is a villain you can also say rimiru is more likely to share his advancements with others vs ainz wants to keep his to himself.
    the biggest argument that you could make of the differences is ainz doesn't care if he kills innocent people vs slime does but even ainz is trying to limit his subordinates to tone it down also due because he doesn't want to also but just like slime he will fight anyone who threatens his friends or nation. ainz will kill everyone involved vs slime will only kill the higher ups and soldiers

  • @mikeb2374
    @mikeb2374 День назад

    I like the idea behind this question but their circumstances while similar had differences that matter. Let's say we're strictly talking anime. Ainz was fortunate to have subordinates from the getgo but that's about it, everything else in the world was out to get him. Where as rimaru was the opposite, he started out with nothing but generally speaking the world around him was very giving. Later down the line they're pretty similar super powerful kindoms, and they seem to be akin to our historical monarchies in a more idealized form. I don't think I'd really have a preference if given the choice between who to let rule over me, rimaru maybe but only because the setting as a whole is more pleasant and forgiving. Less because one ruler is "better" than the other.

  • @kurotsuchiiwa3627
    @kurotsuchiiwa3627 День назад

    i highly suggest taking the light novels rendition as it would be most accurate for both worlds.

  • @June96255
    @June96255 День назад +1

    You should have read the novel version before making this video. Your theory about Aniz for 70% is all wrong.

  • @jsange
    @jsange День назад

    Rimuru's method is more exhausting but I'd probably aim for something like that. It'd take longer since I'm lazy, and I imagine being an ageless species like a slime would only serve to exacerbate that particular trait.

  • @abigtubofsarcasm9070
    @abigtubofsarcasm9070 3 дня назад +1

    I didn’t really consider the comparison between the two series but it makes sense

  • @drago9191
    @drago9191 2 дня назад +1

    No nooo you got it all wrong sorcerer kingdom and tempest only have one difference 1st that ainz lived in 22nd century where politicians and society is ass and the environment is fucked up while children are abandoned on streets where you can not breathe without some expensive equipment to breathe and are even forced in child labor and cheep prostitution
    Rimuru on other hand live in a peaceful world and even then he got stabed 😂 and just imagine living in 100x worse condition for ainz it was normal life
    Hence there ideology of ruling is different
    2nd there kingdoms only have one difference that is sorcerer kingdom is expansionist while tempest is a reserved country otherwise its pretty similar like Diablo and demiurge would have field day talking about there gods😂 and i also find this funny that both ainz and rimuru names were suzuki saturo and both are actually troubled by ruling there country rimuru has it easy because of Raphael while ainz has to constantly worry about how to stop his subordinates from killing children and stop making happy farms 😂😂

  • @l________YOURNAME_________l
    @l________YOURNAME_________l 3 дня назад +1

    power is great to control the strong and peace is used to control the weak and rimuru use both of that aspect by giving benefits does who follows and cut of those who doesn't literally 💀

  • @OSTemli
    @OSTemli 3 дня назад +1

    Did ainz lost any one under him ? Though I like Rimura more, i wouldn't want to work under someone who fock up and let his underling die

    • @Cicadicsaint204
      @Cicadicsaint204 3 дня назад +1

      They both did.

    • @LOVEPHOENIXDANCER
      @LOVEPHOENIXDANCER 2 дня назад

      Not a reader of the light novels but ainz lost 1 person to my knowledge under his command. Reimaru lost 1/2 his kingdom. ( of course both got them back under back door logic, )

  • @chewyandchris
    @chewyandchris 15 часов назад

    Ainz rimuru pissed me off he defeated clayman gave milum everything if I'm correct she gained clayman,harpy kingdom and beast kingdom ainz would have kept Clayman territory

  • @JohnMichaelFruelda-vk9dp
    @JohnMichaelFruelda-vk9dp День назад

    to me i pick both of them

  • @Meatblob1024
    @Meatblob1024 2 дня назад

    where talking about one who make peace with everyone, and one who makes people into pieces

  • @damselette-l
    @damselette-l 3 дня назад +1

    7:19 i am the shadow

  • @zaberfang
    @zaberfang 3 дня назад +3

    I'd say that depends on the universe they're on. We know the extent of Rimuru's Universe while Ainz is still yet to be fully unravelled.

  • @INFINITYVOIDX
    @INFINITYVOIDX 3 дня назад +1

    I didn't understand the question,
    So let me tell you about my thoughts on this, if I were to be the mc of this worlds becoming rimuru tempest or AINZOWLGOAN it is really hard choice to make because I want ainzs kind of fear dominant and power and also rimurus happy nation a utopia, i had thought about both characters before thousands of times on every idea about them any random Ideas or thoughts and rimuru tempest will become a 5th true dragon in tensura world a most powerful being in tensura while ainz is not going to level up anymore he is stuck on level 💯 the only thing I want to do is just merge their nation kingdom and federation, and fuse rimuru tempest and AINZOWLGOAN together just like dragon Ball fusion technique that would be very cool, there is so much i think about like so much sorry for this boring comment.

  • @AnimeFanClub786
    @AnimeFanClub786 День назад

    This is as false as it gets...
    Title should be: Shemale YT's likes rimuru over Overlord

  • @Fan254-d9h
    @Fan254-d9h 3 дня назад

    Ohhh c'mon man there is no comparison between them, rimuru is far superior than ainz, I appreciate your work but please it's kinda insult for rimuru character 😢, thanks