Common mistakes of scoop in Treflips / Shove-its. Analysis on the lightness of tricks.
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
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Especially for those who are learning their Treflips or shove-it’s, it’s important to understand why steezy Treflips are possible.
Being able to steezy Treflip can be translated as “being able to time it right.” In this video, we study h ow proper timing makes it easier to flip our boards.
Please take a moment and try to study this in detail.
I'm trying to eliminate subjectivity from my explanation as much as possible by referring to scientific and physics theories. Please use my 3D models to solve your "why."
#skateboarding
#treflip #trayflip #360 kickflip
#howtoskate
#スケートボード
#トレフリップ
#3D
#blender
#three.js
Traditionally, skateboarding how-to videos have always been subjective and the majority of explanations are based on speakers' experiences.
To avoid relying on my personal experiences, please fully utilize the 3D models.
All skaters have different questions.
So that you can analyze skateboarding tricks in detail and solve your "whys," those 3D models are made fully interactive.
The 3D models feature these functions below:
change camera angle
adjust play speed
change transparency
display gridlines, etc.
Aside from that, I try to explain concepts of skateboarding tricks based on facts, calculations, scientific and physics theories. I may make mistakes so please leave a comment if you find anything.
Can we just take a minute and apperitiate how much effort he put in this video? This is amazing.
Thanks a lot!
But I'm actually doing this for me. I always wanted to create a sort of service where everyone can share their experiences without relying only on their subjectivity. I want to change the way we pass on what we have. Otherwise, as soon as we quit skating, all those pain, blood and tears and excitement will be lost.
@@whythetrick amazing, you’re a gem for skateboarding, I wish you all the best. I can treflip but just from the thumbnail I understood that you put a lot of effort into this so I had to check it out xD greetings from Norway ❤️🙏🏼
Agreed! I love the 3D models and detailed explanations
I was skeptical at first when he starts talking about gravity and crouching but he really brings it all together so that it all makes sense and I think the physics are accurate
Finally, a skateboarding tutorial acknowledges that you have to jump BEFORE you start your tricks.
It is rare to see that mentioned, however I imagine maybe it's because for a lot of people who aren't used to whatever trait they're learning it can be confusing considering in real time most aspects of a trick feel simultaneous as opposed to sequential
Took a Japanese man too XD
Been asking skaters this question for years
Like 223 😌
@@magortom what u talking about are te thiferent olies tecniques, u can pop an high olie without jumpiing, or u can just higher and do a ittle olie, these are the xtremes
you have no IDEA how much this helped. I JUST LANDED MY FIRST TRE FLIP 30 mins after watching this video. HOLY SHIT ITS 1:30 AM AND IM GOING NUTS BRO NUUUUUUTS
1 and a half years after standing on a board I finally land one. I sincerely thank you
Greaaat!!
Really glad to hear that. It's easy to forget how it feels after some time.
Just focus on separating jumping and scooping/popping.
but your name tho
This is by far, the best explanation of a 360 flip I've seen. It shows practicing but also the mechanics involved. Awesome, congratulations!!!!!
Really? This seems a Pressure Flip for me.
Brilliant video! There's many factors involved including posture of the hips and shoulders, and the pressure points on the board and the band of tension between them. Using blender to illustrate this is very helpful.
Didnt expect to see ya here flippy.
Took a long 3 year break?
I member you. Make more thps vids ya goob
I never heard to concept of jumping BEFORE you start your trick. Even without trying it, it already makes way more for almost any trick. Thanks for visualizing it this well. Great stuff!!
Amazing man. You have helped a 35 year old skater do things he never has. Thank you again
another gem as usual. what do you think about making some content on head/shoulder/vision positioning on 180 body tricks?
Sounds good. Please let me know what you have in your mind though.
I’m guessing I could make a video about “the importance of using shoulders in fs/bs 180” or something.
But other tricks like bigspins or bs360s also require the use of shoulders. Any specific trick you would like me to talk about?
@@whythetrick bs360 is a solid one. My doubt when doing 180s is where to put my weight during the rotation, like where is the best place to put the angle of rotation and where to look (like should i start looking foward and then land looking backwards?)
Thanks for the content again!!
@@whythetrick unrelated but I can tell your channel will be big, please keep uploading
Man this video was absolutely amazing!! Like really so good! Scooping when your momentum's going up is such a solid recommendation. The only part I would disagree with is the pause at the bottom, this is because something that contributes a lot to the power we can generate in a vertical jump/popping a trick are the elastic structures in and around your muscles and joints. They essentially work like an elastic band that's pulled back and released - building on top of the force you could create with your muscles alone - this process is known as the 'stretch shortening cycle' (SSC). The more you pause, the more the stored energy in the SSC is dissipated as heat. Instead, I would recommend developing the SSC and your ability to create power over pausing at the bottom (there are exercises on my channel to do this). Anyway, thanks for the vid! You gained a subscriber!
That's something I didn't know about. Interesting, thanks for the knowledge!
so like a rubber band? the longer you stretch it the more the elastic energy dissipates.
I just realized why stretching helps a lot more now
I've posted like 15 videos so far but this is by far one of the greatest comments. Thanks a lot!
@@whythetrick @whythetrick Glad you appreciated it 🙏 Thanks a lot for your videos! Maybe we could do a collab some time...
Wow you just showed up in my recommended, but this is a really fascinating channel. Sometimes I really feel like a physicist when I'm trying to understand tricks and these videos provide a nice breakdown of the physics. Do you think you could do one focusing on the heelflip flick? I feel like a lot people, myself included struggle with flicking heels.
Just found your channel. I’m in my third year studying engineering at school and feel like I’ve been waiting for your channel all my life. I love these types of breakdowns for tricks.
This is the most amazing skate channel I’ve seen 🤩 Please don’t stop making videos!!
Praise the algorithm!!! Great info and breakdown!! It really helps put it all into perspective when you start thinking about the physics involved. Thanks for the great video!! Science!!!! 🤘🤙
you have earned yourself a new subscriber friend. from this very simple analysis of the weight distribution I have literally somehow managed to unlock nollie 3shuvs and my ollies and kickflips have never popped so high or felt so natural. wow, I am flabbergasted bro!
Great! Maybe you are right. This timing thing applies to every trick. Thanks for the comment!
Thank you for being the only person that actually goes in depth on the science of a trick… this video is great
It's been a long time since I've seen a skate trick tip that's made me realize something I've never thought about and say "of course!" I can't wait to try this
What a great compliment. You are very welcome.
Been skating for 15 years and this is one of the most helpful videos I've ever seen and explains well enough that I may finally be able to get them down this year! Thank you
People at your skating carrier precisely is my target. Those who can think and want to be better at skating. It’s great to be of your help!
Really awesome perspective, I bet this will help a lot of people that don't learn the conventional way. Completely explains why I can get the rotation so easily with one foot off the board, but don't get anywhere close when I'm riding on it
Wait, I’ve been skating 26 years and literally have never had this thought. Thank you!
Great video and channel! I'm mechanical engineer and this physics analysis of the tricks motion really made me understand my skateboard tricks so much better. Cannot wait for other videos. Cheers from Brazil!
Whoa. That's the best treflip tutorial I've seen. And I've seen many. Opened my eyes to some aspects. Thanks A LOT, it really is a high quality content
Love the 3D models and detailed break down! Would love to see more sciencey skate content like this.
this is seriously the best tip for tres, i figured this out years ago and it made me finally learn them
Finally! Most skateboarding tutorials don't take into account the body, the jump, the arms and shoulders.
Amazing video! Loved it! The main problem i see for people who want to tre flip is that they put all their weight on their back foot. This makes the trick so much harder to actually do. Because you basically jump backwards and your board pops forward. So instead of holding it on the Blackfoot you have to hold your weight on the front foot. Hope this helps someone :)
Super helpful! I am that guy who has struggle bussed with tre flips forever. Going to apply these physics concepts next time and get this trick wired for once! Thanks so much
0:02 Idk why but I love the way he says shove-its, it just makes me smile inside.
So do I lol.
No really, sorry if my pronunciation’s hard to understand.
best part - take a breath. all of this absolutely rips, but your mind is working preconsciously every time you try it to make it work. Via your recommendation to chill in the moment and on every try, all the mechanics make sense. Rad. Gratitude.
i am glad you addressed what the upper body is doing...many tutorials skip this part
I’ve damn near given up skating and trying to learn tricks bc I just couldn’t get it but this literally made it all CLICK thank you!!! Amazing content
Dont give up. There's some tricks i cant do to save my life and ive been working on them since my teens.. Like anything with a late flip, like Hospital flips. Their just too much to fast for me. Just kinda work on your own style and have fun.
Really appreciate and admire the amount of effort it took to make this video, just subbed and looking forward to watching and learning more from this channel!!
You keep these videos coming and I’ll keep watching. Thanks for giving this gem to the skate community.
I just spent 2 years watching every youtube video with no luck and just going out and practicing every day until I finally figured out flatground tre flips. And then you decide to upload this, AFTER I finally figured all this out. Great video, you're the only person to upload a video that even comes close to properly explaining this trick.
this is great info which made me realize why I ghost pop once in a while. It's not that I didn't pop the tail hard enough - it's that my front foot pushed down for too long into the move. I need to release my front foot weight on time. if done correctly, as you stated, the skateboard requires very little force to pop.
Agreed!!
Interesting. When young , I could treflip on lock. These days, I struggle like some extracts in your vid, not enough flip. Today I landed one perfect out of more than 50 tries. At least. I will follow your advises and see what happens. Thanks!
You just need to remember the timing , like and elastic bend you knee and pop very quickly
360 pop Shuvit help me so much !!! My treflip is perfect 💯
Now
this deserves way more views, this account is amazing
Thanks!
This is actually a really well thought out explanation of skateboarding motorskills. I may be wrong but in my experience almost any time I've over heard, or been asked to give trick advice on how to do ollies or other things, we all tend to start by explaining with the motion required by our feet, rather than the first goal. Now obviously when we're giving ollie advice we explain that you have to snap your tail on the ground before sliding your front foot up the board to level it out while jumping. but more emphasis definitely needs to be made on the crouching and jumping aspects before all that other shit. Good analysis.
you are right. although this one's about treflips, the same concept should apply to other tricks including ollies. jump>>>pop. there's a big difference but we tend to forget about this.
Bro this is super dope props for the channel man. The future of skateboarding haha. This is a next level tutorial right here
skateboarding physics channel. iv literally been waiting for this
ive been srtrugeling with 360 flips for a long time thaks a lot
I have not done these tricks in years but as you explain some of the physics, dots are being connected in muscle memories. Now I think I could tell some one how to land it quicker.
Thanks to the algorithm for introducing me to this channel. I've always been fascinated with the detailed physics for skate tricks.
No skate vid has been so in depth going into the physics like this! Def followed for more tips, it’s a lot more than just learning the body movements. I feel like I can go give it another try, thanks!
Happy to help!
Nice break down. Will remember this when I try tre's next. Timing of the scoop
man. I am trying to revive this trick. thank you for this.
Best tutorial I've seen so far
This is ******* amazing! Serious science meets trick tips.
This is incredible!
Your videos are a different breed brother
this is the most in depth tutorial I have ever seen
Really liked hearing your breakdown of this trick, and the animations. Good memories seeing the local Tokyo spot too. Thanks for the content
These amazing videos earned you my subscription and an urge to show your videos to all my friends irl.
Welcome aboard! Thank you so much.
Let me know what your friends say!
I just wanna say thank you very much for taking the time to scientifically break this down making this so much easier to understand.
The scoop only happens AFTER the sequence, epic breakdown 🛹👌
Wow. this is incredible. Such a detailed and well explained video! I have never seen someone explain the treflip so well. I've been struggling with treflips for over 6 years now! I've put in countless hours but still don't have them consistent. This video has helped me alot
I feel your pain..Boy have i lost alot of games of skate to that trick.
@@DerusGrindz yeah its a bummer. I really hope one day it will click for the both of us
this is gnarly that makes 100 percent sense to me
at 37 and skating since 14 its whoa im quilty of the primo 360 flip to wrist snap myself
Perfect explanations… keep up the good quality!
This generation is lucky for tutorials with internet. I quit skating in 1991. Last trick I learned was treflip. Back then it was a lot of work to figure out how to do them. Had a VCR with slow motion playback.
I wish I had internet back then...but the hard work and effort to learn a trick was so satisfying to me.
After i watched the video i went to my garage and landed my first treflip in 5 tries. Thank you much. I appreciate it
Greatttt!!!
That’s what I wanted to hear. This video would’ve been nothing without your effort. Great job.
The video doesn’t mean anything without your effort. Congrats.
brilliant brilliant work. I am amazed at the amazingly simple concepts that are still so easy to not realize. you laid this out so well. Now I understand also how to get so much more pop, as you need to be nearly leaving your board before you pop it/scoop it
Thank you for making such a deep insight of skateboarding video. This is a game changer for everyone!
Dude, this is an awesome tutorial. Thank you! Every pop trick starts with an ollie.
you are very welcome
The tip of holding your movement at the bottom of your crouch is a huge eye opener for any trick. That timing will help your pop for all tricks not just those involving a scoop.
joooooo wtf
I could tre out of every bank and kicker but never on flat
I watched your video an was able to tre on flat INSTANTLY AFTER THAT
I have been struggling with tre's for 3/4 year now and after you told me to jump first it instantly worked
THANK YOU❤️
Excellent!!!
This channel is an absolute gem man. God Bless
What a complete and didactic video I've just seen. Man, you are amazing your video brings together two brilliant concept skating and physicomechanical.
WOW so much work on this video, so helpfull. Best tutorial i've ever seen.
I’m gonna save this video to look back on because I never really thought about half of the stuff that was said in the video. Like waiting until you feel your body actually getting an upward motion and then going for the trick 🙌🏽
The harder you try it, you tend to crouch down lower or jump harder. That could actually be a reason why you can’t land it. Ironic isn’t it.
I knew this intuitively that you need to jump before doing the trick, otherwise how could I lift the board from the ground if I cannot lift myself first. This is very valuable to know for any skateboarding trick that requires board lifting.
But when it comes to three flip there is so much more to explain than this. For example direction of the scoop is extremely important, shoulders position, pop before scoop, and so on. Many other videos talk about hese aspects.
My advice above them all would be: record yourself and analyse what mistakes you are doing. Then try to correct these mistakes.
I predict this channel will blow up in a couple months! Great content! 🔥🔥🔥
Wow, this is really awesome. I've never seen such a detailed breakdown before. The animations with the force arrows were great for visualizing exactly what's happening.
You just earned a new sub!
Golden channel, honestly.
thank you!
feel like I learning something engineering in college's class. love your content. Keep it up!
So impressed with the advice you give ! You’re really smart and cool
thanks a lot. my videos mean nothing without viewers like you.
Dude this is genius, can’t wait to try this and pop over a house!
Amazing video and channel. The 3d modeling really helps put things in perspective. Subbed!
Thank you!
best skateboard tutorial, awesome
If my high school teachers used skateboarding examples to teach me things, I probably would've been a straight A student 🤣 nice work dude! 🔥
haha true. thanks for the comment.
This channel is gonna blow up
great video! love your mind! my problem was definitely trying to force the board to rotate while still crouched, giving it no place to go.
Absolutely loved the video, just all those explanations are so revealing to me. Makes me understand a bit more why certain motions happen and how to feel you board better. Amazing, really splendid. This reminds me of Rodney Mullen and how perfectionist and dedicated he is to the art of skateboarding!! Thanks for your work!!
Wow! Thx dude! This explanation helped me so much! Now i do tre flips😶🚀🛹
amazing content, i actually landed my first treflip right after watching this video!!! :D
Keep it up
Just found your channel. Such helpfull and well made videos! Thanks for making them in English too. I'm from Finland and I know this will help many people around the world 👍
The 3-D models are really sick!
This is great and has been helping me especially the kick flip I was very stuck now I’m way closer to landing I recommend all the basics u cover Ollie shuv it pop shuv it fs and bs 180 and heelflips it would really help a lot I refuse to even watch other tutorials now too keep up the good work
Thank you very much! That helped a lot even though I’ve been skating for 16 years
you are welcome!
i've been skating for 10+ years with blanks due to job and injuries. my body's getting dull day by day. still, there are things we can say only after years of skating, right?
will be posting more. please come back anytime.
This is a nice video. I´ve never landed a switch 3 flip and now I think I know why! thanks for your help
Thanks for having an awesome brain this is such a good break down. I’ve been tryna get my mate and i to tre for years and neither of us got it haha this might be the ticket!
Nice. Please let me know when you land it.
Awesome video. I need to find one like this on just how to get my ollie down. That would be awesome.
Omfg I’ve been running this idea through my head for the past month that the essence to every trick is maintaining pressure until the pop. I’m way too lazy and inarticulate to make a video on it but it’s crazy to see this video when I did.
its pure timing, learning the muscle memory for timing is everything
u sir are a genius for making this style of video
Very very underrated channel!
Hopefully you can do a video on ollies soon I want a full understanding of the basics 😊
日本語を勉強しているアメリカ人として、あなたの英語の発音はほんとに上手いですよ！最初に気つたとき、びっくりしました。こんないい情報を入った動画をアップロードしてありがとうございました🙆♂️日本へ行く前にトレフリップを絶対メイクしてみます！
ありがとうございます。
こっちで一緒に滑りましょう。
@@whythetrick 来年の１２月、日本に着くとぜひ一緒に滑りましょう！コロナウイルスが落ち着いたならですね。東京と大阪に行く予定つもりです。
Holy shit I was just practicing pop shove-its today, I'm gonna try this tomorrow, thanks for the video!
the best tutorial about tre flip
Amazing work...I always tell the homies about being Lightfooted when skating. Sometimes you gotta be heavy too though
Thank you!
The harder you try to jump, the heavier you tend to be. What an irony.
you just gained a subscriber, I think of skating the same way. Just started skating this february and I landed tre last month.
Thanks! Please let me know if you have any request.
Well that's something new. Very cool idea! Keep it up.