Shopping for a laptop, and I dont buy mid tier. Excellent video review of this machine and its down to this and one other, thanks for doing this.. Subscribed.
Cool review. Does the graininess of the OLED display bother you? Long story short, OLED digitizers have a graininess layer right now for the touchscreen. Non touch OLED displays don't have this issue. Future generations of OLED are supposed to have one layer. To be a serious gaming laptop, it would have to offer a 4090 option and G Sync. Of course, the laptop will have to be thicker and heavier in that case to allow for additional cooling capabilities.
Thank you so much for being one of the few to demonstrate the stylus! Would you say that using the stylus on the touchpad is as smooth and responsive as on the touchscreen?
@Naedyn I didn't find it to be the same experience. Hands down using it on the screen is much better. The pen nib is designed for a glass screen. Perhaps you can swap out or get a different styles if your intent is to use it on the touchpad. Any reason you'd want to do that though?
@@techknowlux Ah, that's a shame. The screen doesn't seem to fold into an ergonomic position for drawing, like the Microsoft Laptop Studio (I was on the fence between this and Asus Proart 16). If I were able to draw just as well on the touchpad as on the screen, it would function like an inbuilt drawing tablet, which is what I use now and have to lug around. Thank you for letting me know your thoughts on it.
.yeah its actually great device with native 2k resolution and to my surprise it actually reamains cool. I played ac valhalla and noticed it hitting 115 constant@@techknowlux
I can assure you the numpad is critical for 3d modeling users. It’s absolutely essential and a total dealbreaker for me and many other users with this type of workload. Otherwise tho I agree. Doing video and photo editing etc seems like a numpad is all but useless.
This video was great for me. I'm about to get the proart pro. I'm on the fence. Mine would come with 64gb of ram and the new ish rtx3000 ada. I'm pretty much getting this machine for video editing and lightroom and soon photoshop. What do you think. I see the M1 pro is a contender for me but I've never used a mac before. You give inside details in your review most people do not. Thank you.
If you've never used Mac now is not the time to start learning. If you are comfortable and have a workflow already go with it. This is s very nice machine and very well specced. Why did you decide to go for rtx 3000 instead of the latest rtx 4000. Better resale, newer tech, better drivers, more efficient etc?
@@techknowlux Thank you for getting back to me. My head is spinning trying to figure this out without making any big mistakes. I just returned a Dell Percussion 7670 because it was a dog and my old laptop did better. The tech who came out said to return it because these machines are a big problem and he works 24 /7 fixing them. I bailed and decided on the proart 16 pro. My budget was 2000 but now it's 3 since I have no choice. I'm a video editor and don't game. So it's all about the editing video and I do some light weight Lightroom and some photoshop as well. My question to you is... Are you familiar with the ADA cards? They are supposed to be the next level for video editors.... I talked to Nvidia at length and for video editing he said for sure I want the ada even though it's only 8GB. I read all about it and watched a lot of video as well. Not to go on here to long, but you think learning the mac platform is that big a deal? I also thought one could put windows on a mac but even if that is no true, I was thinking it may be time to make a switch. A lot of reviews felt like mac is real good at what it does, blowing the other machines away. and the batt life is off the charts with no power loss. For instance the pro art has all the 3D and touch screen and oled and on and on. Stuff I may not really need but is real cool. I love love the idea of a touch screen but could live with out it. Any advice you can throw my way would be greatly appreciated. The confusion is over the top even for a person with lots of experience like me. I think the RTX 4000 is a geforce card. I want a pro quadro card for sure. Geforce is more for gaming not considered a pro editors card. I have a quadro on my desktop. Please advise.
I just saw your review about the Asus ProArt Studio 16 OLED (2023) RTX 4070 laptop, and saw that you had some reserves in the matter of video editing. I'm mainly doing video editing with 4k material. Would the ProArt Studiobook Pro 16 OLED (W7604) be a better choice with its RTX 3000 Ada Generation ? Thank you
I would not recommend the RTX 3000 anymore. Get the RTX 4000 if only for resale value and longevity. NVIDIA has quickly phased out support for RTX 3000 in that there is no DLSS or Frame Generation capabilities coming to the 3000 series. My reservations were based on the TDP figures mainly. And the fact that the whole generation has stepped down a notch in terms of core counts and still being marketed as the same class of GPUs. You'll have no issues with 4k material as long as you use proxy clips and/or lower the timeline resolutions for the editing. Output is a littler slower than the 4080 or 4090 mobile but not a big issue unless it's mission critical for you. Hope that adds a bit more insight.
What OLED laptop do you recommend if creating and gaming is not a priority? I want the best 16"+ display possible and decent speakers too, for mainly content consumption.
@Krenisphia There isn't a "bad" OLED that I've seen. Any OLED screen will be far superior for content consumption. For speakers the winner hands down is the Macbook Pro 16 but those don't have OLED. So sadly you can't have both and eat your cake too... or whatever that expression is. The Vivobook Pro 16X is a great option if you mainly want content consumption and is a lot cheaper. Then a good pair of Bluetooth headphones from Sony or Bose and you'll have a knockout experience.
Asus Zephyrus G 16 OLED👈 best OLED (only 16 inch OLED laptop on market with VRR tech) Amazing speakers, probably 90% as good a Mac Book pro 16, hands down best sounding windows laptop, some would argue just as good if not better than MCBP16
Do you think for gaming if I used an external monitor it would perform better. I have a 27inch 1080p 165hz Asus monitor if connected it would it have more smooth gameplay? Would it even reach close to the 165hz? Around how much? Or would it still stutter and potentially Get to hot. I would also be buying a cooling pad the iets one. Or would I be better getting a true gaming laptop. Thank you for this video it was very insightful !
Hitting 165Hz on an external display will depend on the game. But the stutters I believe happen far more in Assassin's Creed Mirage than other games. An external monitor would be a great way to play. Unless you're doing competitive gaming this laptop will work for your use case. The 4070 can drive 1080p at high fps no problem. What kinds and which specific games will you be playing?
@@techknowlux Playing Halo infinite and Apex mostly and every now and then Minecraft and some other games. But Halo and apex are my main games. My only concern would be overheating/overworking the laptop and it longevity because I play games very often, I think getting a true gaming laptop would be better and probably the route I will take, but I really like the Build quality and esthetic of this laptop plus the Oled for media consumption. Thanks for the reply! Oh and what do you mean but unless your doing competitive gaming ? Thanks
Halo Infinite and Apex. Great choices. I mean competitive as in every frame and refresh rate matters. If you don't fall in that camp, you'll have a great time. I wouldn't worry about the longevity of the laptop playing a lot of games. They're built to handle it. You may have to open up the cover and clean the fans once a year but that should be about all. It 2-3 years time, possibly removing the bottom panel and repasting the CPU might be needed as well. I would buy and enjoy the beauty of that OLED and not worry about it too much. Chances are that you'll be replacing the laptop in 2-3 years time anyway considering the fast pace of innovation recently. How long are you planning to own this laptop? How long do you generally own one?
Could you share your RAM configuration? I bought this PC with one 32Gb SK Hynix 5600 module from factory, but it only works on 5200. In your video I see work at 5600. Did you get this out of the box, or did you change configuration?
@nikmedoed Out of the box, I did not mess around with any RAM configurations. It is possible that a different manufacturer RAM runs at 5200 instead. What GPU did you get?
@@techknowluxDiagnostic programs and tests for other models say that this memory can work freely on the 5600. Someone works, someone doesn't. Perhaps it was strangled at the BIOS level down to 5200 in the last update. This blogger says that he has a similar situation ruclips.net/video/q2d9-TV4ghw/видео.htmlsi=R8qpZci9kG0fk7rG and this is cleverly done by the manufacturer.
@@techknowlux Asked for ASUS support: According to available spec This model supports both 5600 and 5200 frequency, depends on the RAM size installed - 16GB - 5600, 32GB - 5200.
Thank you very much for the review. I bought this laptop and I'm confused about the express 7.0 norm. Could you recommend SD cards that can take advantage of this laptop? Thank you in advance
Such cards will have markings on them that state SD7.0. They're still the same size, still SHXC standard etc. but can now run over PCIe and NVMe protocols to "act" and "behave" more like SSD along with SSD like speeds. Be prepared to pay a very very big premium over traditional SD cards though.
@@techknowluxThank you very much for your answer. It may not be much to say, but I think your reviews are honestly the best I've come across, very unbiased and informative. Thank you for your work !
At least a 4080 mobile for true and smooth 4K video editing. Even then depending on the bitrate of raw video you may need to adjust video timeline resolution or use proxy clips for editing.
@ObamaBenAladdin You have a very specific use case. You want to look at a 4080 or even a 4090. Try to get at least a 17" laptop as they will have enough space and larger fans to properly cool a 4090 with ripping your ears off. If you really want something in 16" size you can look at the Legion 9i if you have budget or the Legion Pro 7.
ASUS build quality and customer service has been lacking in recent years. The Original ProArt Studiobook 16 was a huge step towards making a high quality functional machine unlike anything in years. It was the best laptop in the market by virtue of having a combination of features no other laptop still offered at that point. The physical buttons on the trackpad were more important for productivity than the dial. Having dropped those from the model reviewed here shows ASUS does not care about making a quality product they just want to save as many pennies as they can in production before it sells for $4000 .
To be honest, the price is rather low for what you get. It is not cheap, but a ThinkPad with the same configuration would cost nearly twice as much if I'm not mistaken. It is true that the physical trackpad buttons are great for productivity, but as long as you use a mouse you're good. The trackpad itself is a joy to use. So it's a matter of compromise I guess.
@@stanislasflipo7214 A ThinkPad would cost twice as much only if you pay its full price. Lenovo frequently runs sales that significantly drop prices to more reasonable numbers.
Why not? I believe North America is the same bundle with stylus. Other regions, for example Asia, could be different. Check the ASUA website/shop for your country and see the description of what's included in the package.
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I really appreciate the quality of your reviews. Objective insightful and most importantly it they don’t feel like ads 🏆amazing stuff
Tysm. Please help spread the word by sharing across your social media channels. Gotta hit 1000 subs to get monetized.
Shopping for a laptop, and I dont buy mid tier. Excellent video review of this machine and its down to this and one other, thanks for doing this.. Subscribed.
@johnbullock8335 Glad I could help!
For the num pad, as an Architect we need precision in drawing and the num pad is really useful for us!
Cool review. Does the graininess of the OLED display bother you? Long story short, OLED digitizers have a graininess layer right now for the touchscreen. Non touch OLED displays don't have this issue. Future generations of OLED are supposed to have one layer.
To be a serious gaming laptop, it would have to offer a 4090 option and G Sync. Of course, the laptop will have to be thicker and heavier in that case to allow for additional cooling capabilities.
Not at all. This OLED is gorgeous. 3200x2000 means its essentially retina so not like the earlier gen OLED panels on laptops that barely hit 400 nits.
Finally after all those years someone built a laptop for architects and engeneers that doesn't look like a Christmas tree, FINALLYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
@skanderzenaidi9342 Well said. It's a real beauty.
Great review, thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you so much for being one of the few to demonstrate the stylus! Would you say that using the stylus on the touchpad is as smooth and responsive as on the touchscreen?
@Naedyn I didn't find it to be the same experience. Hands down using it on the screen is much better. The pen nib is designed for a glass screen. Perhaps you can swap out or get a different styles if your intent is to use it on the touchpad. Any reason you'd want to do that though?
@@techknowlux Ah, that's a shame. The screen doesn't seem to fold into an ergonomic position for drawing, like the Microsoft Laptop Studio (I was on the fence between this and Asus Proart 16). If I were able to draw just as well on the touchpad as on the screen, it would function like an inbuilt drawing tablet, which is what I use now and have to lug around. Thank you for letting me know your thoughts on it.
great review. I bought strix g18 rtx4070 after looking at your videos. i can see now gpu using more than 100tgp.
Great to hear! How far did it go above 100w tgp and in what games?
.yeah its actually great device with native 2k resolution and to my surprise it actually reamains cool. I played ac valhalla and noticed it hitting 115 constant@@techknowlux
Very surprised about thise gaming results with the given specs
i bought the 2024 version P16 I'm going to exchange for the Old Version because the new on is too flat look cheap
I can assure you the numpad is critical for 3d modeling users. It’s absolutely essential and a total dealbreaker for me and many other users with this type of workload. Otherwise tho I agree. Doing video and photo editing etc seems like a numpad is all but useless.
This video was great for me. I'm about to get the proart pro. I'm on the fence. Mine would come with 64gb of ram and the new ish rtx3000 ada. I'm pretty much getting this machine for video editing and lightroom and soon photoshop. What do you think. I see the M1 pro is a contender for me but I've never used a mac before. You give inside details in your review most people do not. Thank you.
If you've never used Mac now is not the time to start learning. If you are comfortable and have a workflow already go with it. This is s very nice machine and very well specced. Why did you decide to go for rtx 3000 instead of the latest rtx 4000. Better resale, newer tech, better drivers, more efficient etc?
@@techknowlux Thank you for getting back to me. My head is spinning trying to figure this out without making any big mistakes. I just returned a Dell Percussion 7670 because it was a dog and my old laptop did better. The tech who came out said to return it because these machines are a big problem and he works 24 /7 fixing them. I bailed and decided on the proart 16 pro. My budget was 2000 but now it's 3 since I have no choice. I'm a video editor and don't game. So it's all about the editing video and I do some light weight Lightroom and some photoshop as well. My question to you is... Are you familiar with the ADA cards? They are supposed to be the next level for video editors.... I talked to Nvidia at length and for video editing he said for sure I want the ada even though it's only 8GB. I read all about it and watched a lot of video as well. Not to go on here to long, but you think learning the mac platform is that big a deal? I also thought one could put windows on a mac but even if that is no true, I was thinking it may be time to make a switch. A lot of reviews felt like mac is real good at what it does, blowing the other machines away. and the batt life is off the charts with no power loss. For instance the pro art has all the 3D and touch screen and oled and on and on. Stuff I may not really need but is real cool. I love love the idea of a touch screen but could live with out it. Any advice you can throw my way would be greatly appreciated. The confusion is over the top even for a person with lots of experience like me. I think the RTX 4000 is a geforce card. I want a pro quadro card for sure. Geforce is more for gaming not considered a pro editors card. I have a quadro on my desktop. Please advise.
@@techknowlux The RTX 3000 ada is the newest and latest.
@@sutv6754
It's not as good for gaming as the 4000 series are.
I just saw your review about the Asus ProArt Studio 16 OLED (2023) RTX 4070 laptop, and saw that you had some reserves in the matter of video editing. I'm mainly doing video editing with 4k material. Would the ProArt Studiobook Pro 16 OLED (W7604) be a better choice with its RTX 3000 Ada Generation ? Thank you
I would not recommend the RTX 3000 anymore. Get the RTX 4000 if only for resale value and longevity. NVIDIA has quickly phased out support for RTX 3000 in that there is no DLSS or Frame Generation capabilities coming to the 3000 series. My reservations were based on the TDP figures mainly. And the fact that the whole generation has stepped down a notch in terms of core counts and still being marketed as the same class of GPUs. You'll have no issues with 4k material as long as you use proxy clips and/or lower the timeline resolutions for the editing. Output is a littler slower than the 4080 or 4090 mobile but not a big issue unless it's mission critical for you. Hope that adds a bit more insight.
What OLED laptop do you recommend if creating and gaming is not a priority? I want the best 16"+ display possible and decent speakers too, for mainly content consumption.
@Krenisphia There isn't a "bad" OLED that I've seen. Any OLED screen will be far superior for content consumption. For speakers the winner hands down is the Macbook Pro 16 but those don't have OLED. So sadly you can't have both and eat your cake too... or whatever that expression is. The Vivobook Pro 16X is a great option if you mainly want content consumption and is a lot cheaper. Then a good pair of Bluetooth headphones from Sony or Bose and you'll have a knockout experience.
Asus Zephyrus G 16 OLED👈
best OLED (only 16 inch OLED laptop on market with VRR tech)
Amazing speakers, probably 90% as good a Mac Book pro 16, hands down best sounding windows laptop, some would argue just as good if not better than MCBP16
Do you think for gaming if I used an external monitor it would perform better. I have a 27inch 1080p 165hz Asus monitor if connected it would it have more smooth gameplay? Would it even reach close to the 165hz? Around how much? Or would it still stutter and potentially Get to hot. I would also be buying a cooling pad the iets one. Or would I be better getting a true gaming laptop. Thank you for this video it was very insightful !
Hitting 165Hz on an external display will depend on the game. But the stutters I believe happen far more in Assassin's Creed Mirage than other games. An external monitor would be a great way to play. Unless you're doing competitive gaming this laptop will work for your use case. The 4070 can drive 1080p at high fps no problem. What kinds and which specific games will you be playing?
@@techknowlux Playing Halo infinite and Apex mostly and every now and then Minecraft and some other games. But Halo and apex are my main games. My only concern would be overheating/overworking the laptop and it longevity because I play games very often, I think getting a true gaming laptop would be better and probably the route I will take, but I really like the Build quality and esthetic of this laptop plus the Oled for media consumption. Thanks for the reply! Oh and what do you mean but unless your doing competitive gaming ? Thanks
Halo Infinite and Apex. Great choices. I mean competitive as in every frame and refresh rate matters. If you don't fall in that camp, you'll have a great time. I wouldn't worry about the longevity of the laptop playing a lot of games. They're built to handle it. You may have to open up the cover and clean the fans once a year but that should be about all. It 2-3 years time, possibly removing the bottom panel and repasting the CPU might be needed as well. I would buy and enjoy the beauty of that OLED and not worry about it too much. Chances are that you'll be replacing the laptop in 2-3 years time anyway considering the fast pace of innovation recently. How long are you planning to own this laptop? How long do you generally own one?
OLED > IPS, LCD
Could you share your RAM configuration?
I bought this PC with one 32Gb SK Hynix 5600 module from factory, but it only works on 5200.
In your video I see work at 5600.
Did you get this out of the box, or did you change configuration?
@nikmedoed Out of the box, I did not mess around with any RAM configurations. It is possible that a different manufacturer RAM runs at 5200 instead. What GPU did you get?
@@techknowluxDiagnostic programs and tests for other models say that this memory can work freely on the 5600. Someone works, someone doesn't. Perhaps it was strangled at the BIOS level down to 5200 in the last update.
This blogger says that he has a similar situation ruclips.net/video/q2d9-TV4ghw/видео.htmlsi=R8qpZci9kG0fk7rG and this is cleverly done by the manufacturer.
@@techknowlux
Asked for ASUS support:
According to available spec This model supports both 5600 and 5200 frequency, depends on the RAM size installed - 16GB - 5600, 32GB - 5200.
Can you charge it using thunderbolt c? or just the dc input?
You can charge with USB type-C at 100W but it will drain battery if you do heavy workload on this laptop while charging/powered by USB type-C.
Thank you very much for the review. I bought this laptop and I'm confused about the express 7.0 norm. Could you recommend SD cards that can take advantage of this laptop? Thank you in advance
Such cards will have markings on them that state SD7.0. They're still the same size, still SHXC standard etc. but can now run over PCIe and NVMe protocols to "act" and "behave" more like SSD along with SSD like speeds. Be prepared to pay a very very big premium over traditional SD cards though.
@@techknowluxThank you very much for your answer. It may not be much to say, but I think your reviews are honestly the best I've come across, very unbiased and informative. Thank you for your work !
So 4090 is the best for 4k editing? Thanks for the review.
At least a 4080 mobile for true and smooth 4K video editing. Even then depending on the bitrate of raw video you may need to adjust video timeline resolution or use proxy clips for editing.
Thanks Dude. @@techknowlux
I am looking for a laptop for 3d art(vfx, animations, rendering) so I dont think i will go for it bc of that 4070 that bottlenecks the whole system
@ObamaBenAladdin You have a very specific use case. You want to look at a 4080 or even a 4090. Try to get at least a 17" laptop as they will have enough space and larger fans to properly cool a 4090 with ripping your ears off. If you really want something in 16" size you can look at the Legion 9i if you have budget or the Legion Pro 7.
@@techknowlux what i just buy this for modeling and animating, but the actual render i do on my desktop 4080 build? Would it be good enough?
Four hour battery life is dismal when screen and 4070 are under load...
@user-sy4um3hm7w Incorrect. 4 hours under mixed use. If the 4070 is under load, try about 1 hour for battery life.
ASUS build quality and customer service has been lacking in recent years. The Original ProArt Studiobook 16 was a huge step towards making a high quality functional machine unlike anything in years. It was the best laptop in the market by virtue of having a combination of features no other laptop still offered at that point. The physical buttons on the trackpad were more important for productivity than the dial. Having dropped those from the model reviewed here shows ASUS does not care about making a quality product they just want to save as many pennies as they can in production before it sells for $4000 .
To be honest, the price is rather low for what you get. It is not cheap, but a ThinkPad with the same configuration would cost nearly twice as much if I'm not mistaken. It is true that the physical trackpad buttons are great for productivity, but as long as you use a mouse you're good. The trackpad itself is a joy to use. So it's a matter of compromise I guess.
@@stanislasflipo7214 A ThinkPad would cost twice as much only if you pay its full price. Lenovo frequently runs sales that significantly drop prices to more reasonable numbers.
do we get stylus if i buy from usa?
Why not? I believe North America is the same bundle with stylus. Other regions, for example Asia, could be different. Check the ASUA website/shop for your country and see the description of what's included in the package.
@@techknowlux i want to ask if the bricked problem bios one is solved or not?
dell xps 15 or 17 seems like a better deal
Maybe. If the deal is right. Dell has really bumped up the pricing on both the XPS 15 and 17 over the last generation.
Precio
Italian? Nevertheless, thank you.
Nice review, but why do you have to be on the video?
@ronygomez5566 Is there something wrong with me being on the video? It is my channel and my style after all.
CREATOR HUB- ASUS BIOS NOT ALLOWING FOR MANUAL FAN CONTROL AT THIS PRICE RANGE IS A WAR CRIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!