Tesla Automatic Emergency Braking - Real World Test

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    In todays video we setup a mock IIHS Safety Test to determine on our own how well Tesla's Vision Only Traffic Avoidance technology stacks up to a real world testing.
    Music: Over You by Atch

Комментарии • 465

  • @tayzonday
    @tayzonday 2 года назад +493

    If you put a labor union contract in the road, the Tesla will slam the brakes and deploy the air bags.

    • @quintonwilson8565
      @quintonwilson8565 2 года назад +6

      It's Tay!

    • @whynotstartusingyourbrain8726
      @whynotstartusingyourbrain8726 2 года назад +12

      Of course it will. Because it wants to protect every employee from a lack of productivity that comes with unions. In the end Tesla employees are way better of without one because productivity will lead to a higher stock price and you can benefit from that through stock based compensation. Unless you get fired for stupid behavior that is.

    • @TechGamesAU
      @TechGamesAU 2 года назад +8

      Bro you can’t be leaving comments on videos like you’re some kind of normal RUclipsr or something

    • @crazyuddie
      @crazyuddie 2 года назад +2

      Funniest thing I've read today.

    • @jojodroid31
      @jojodroid31 2 года назад +20

      @@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726 ...and other jokes you can tell yourself

  • @devindykstra
    @devindykstra 2 года назад +224

    I applaud your bravery in these tests. You really waited for the last second each time to give the system a chance to stop. Thank you for the video!

  • @asdfjklo234
    @asdfjklo234 2 года назад +39

    You're doing exactly what I would expect an excellent and dedicated engineer to do. You have always stayed focused on the task at hand and truthfully reported everything you have observed, and even after you were let go you have continued doing this work on your own. Much respect.

  • @star2705
    @star2705 2 года назад +23

    You have a good friend to casually run into the street in front of a moving vehicle it's increasingly clear won't stop, and give a chair a spin, or knock over a pallet!

  • @fzigunov
    @fzigunov 2 года назад +136

    Thanks for this! Haters are gonna hate and fanboys are gonna be fanboys. Don't be discouraged. You're bringing light about the FSD situation and informing thousands about how not-ready this technology is.

    • @AIAddict
      @AIAddict  2 года назад +12

      I appreciate your kind words

    • @rj8u
      @rj8u 2 года назад

      Bringing light to FSD 😅. The car being tested is not even in FSD. I'm glad Tesla fired your lazy ass from their team. Go work for GM and Ford.

    • @travsformation1
      @travsformation1 2 года назад +2

      @@AIAddict And in pro of your own physical integrity, an (unsolicited) tip: When performing this kind of tests, hold the steering wheel without placing your thumbs around it. This is common practice in off-road driving, so that if a rock or rut causes the wheels to turn suddenly and violently, and thus also the steering wheel, you don't risk potential thumb injury. I think that scenario definitely applies here. 😅
      I'd say it's worth preventing that risk so you can keep posting these very useful tests while reducing the risk to your person (insomuch as possible) 😅

    • @XXRAVENS35XX
      @XXRAVENS35XX Год назад

      This isn’t FSD software. This is BASIC AUTOPILOT.

    • @Slayyyter_bitxh
      @Slayyyter_bitxh Год назад +2

      They also abandoned sensors for cameras so I'm not surprised at the results

  • @privateprivate31337
    @privateprivate31337 2 года назад +22

    I applaud your bravery, have always joked about doing these types of tests. Glad someone was brave enough to try it.

  • @jonathanslaughter8542
    @jonathanslaughter8542 2 года назад +56

    I’d be interested to see the test performed with beta version

    • @AIAddict
      @AIAddict  2 года назад +41

      Same, Tesla can re-activate it for me and we can see

    • @sanisidrocr
      @sanisidrocr 2 года назад +29

      Shame tesla doesn't allow testing with anybody that is not promoting them actively

    • @lazerusmfh
      @lazerusmfh 2 года назад +5

      @@sanisidrocr I have beta and and could do some of these

    • @newberry940051
      @newberry940051 2 года назад +2

      @@AIAddict re-activate it? Are you the one who got it taken away after hitting something? Sucks man. I like the tests but it is beyond the way they want people using it. They already have so many people complaining about "normal" drivers testing software on public roads....

    • @crabbypattyRobloxgod
      @crabbypattyRobloxgod 9 месяцев назад

      @@newberry940051well my autopilot stops for chairs I place in-front of it, mind you it’s late 2023 almost 2024. Make sure next time ur using a tesla equipped with full self driving as this is not fair to just use autopilot and label it as full self driving. And remember detecting an object and acting upon it is different. Truthfully tesla has always said this feature is still actively being improved so expecting it to be good right out of the box is quite stupid. And it’s going to be fully autonomous pretty quick considering where it’s at today and how much it’s improved with tesla removing 300,000+ lines of code and now using the neural network to train the car even better.

  • @SebasTian-od7oz
    @SebasTian-od7oz 2 года назад +3

    This was actually no clickbait. I'm impressed!

  • @jamdoodles
    @jamdoodles 2 года назад +12

    Even when it thinks the chair is a PERSON it's like "oh well BEEPBEEPBEEPBEEP" & just decides to run him over.

  • @NGabunchanumbers
    @NGabunchanumbers 2 года назад +45

    So, what did they get the award for, if it never tried to stop? Im not a Tesla fan, I consider myself rather critical of them, but that's really strange that it didn't do anything. Have you tried a different roadway? Just out of curiosity. But i guess sometimes it detected the objects and did nothing, so wow thats pretty useless.

    • @AIAddict
      @AIAddict  2 года назад +20

      The specifics of the award were for its detection and avoidance of “vehicles and pedestrians”. However, as shown, it did not react to a vehicle pulling out.

    • @gonzac36
      @gonzac36 2 года назад +6

      How bad must the others be? It would be great to have the next up competitor run these tests too

    • @nicholasthon973
      @nicholasthon973 2 года назад +9

      It’s miles better than what’s in all other cars, that’s why. Makes you worry about being another car, doesn’t it?

    • @VeganAtheistWeirdo
      @VeganAtheistWeirdo 2 года назад +12

      @@nicholasthon973 Doesn't make me worry, because I'd have to be either blind, paralyzed, or unconscious before I would rely on any self-driving software operating a vehicle that wasn't on a track or cable. And I agree, this award is premature by several years, at least judging by these results.

  • @StefanReich
    @StefanReich 2 года назад +8

    Camera-only is a really bold move. They should probably have stuck to LIDAR which I imagine is a lot safer and much easier to interpret for the machine. Detecting an object in a LIDAR scan is probably downright trivial compared to computer vision. You just check for the distance to the car and that's it. You should be able to tell us more about this question I guess

    • @bradfordjhart
      @bradfordjhart 11 месяцев назад +1

      Even with lidar you're still left with the problem of prediction. Humans it's just intuitive. It's very hard to teach machines how dumb people can be leaving the trash cans in the middle of the road.

  • @nixulescu9399
    @nixulescu9399 2 года назад +6

    wow man, your testing of the capabilities of a tesla is great, best I've seen on yt so far!

  • @Nine9Hundred00
    @Nine9Hundred00 2 года назад +11

    Wow, these are better tests than 99% of tesla youtube. Grats!

  • @lapin46
    @lapin46 2 года назад +7

    This was observable in a few situations in videos. FSD shows rather slow reaction times towards suddenly occurring objects. FSD can predict traffic and paths really well given far enough viewing range to assess the situation 2-3 seconds ahead of reaching that actually point or the objects arriving at the car's location. They need to bring this down to the 0.5 second region to significantly surpass human capabilities.

  • @TheStrangeKage
    @TheStrangeKage 2 года назад +27

    As much as I’m a believer in the tech, I call BS with Elon removing
    Radar from the 3 and the y. Radar cars perform better. Period

    • @jcasetnl
      @jcasetnl 2 года назад

      Tech does not require belief. My toaster works whether I believe in it or not. The way some people talk about this stuff sounds like a doomsday cult. Like you're all preparing for self-driving rapture.

  • @miraculixxs
    @miraculixxs 2 года назад +5

    Wow. Scary! I hope the authorities around the world are paying attention.

  • @ministeriumfurstartsicherh9895
    @ministeriumfurstartsicherh9895 2 года назад +4

    Sad to see, that there is no emergency braking applied at all. Happy to see, that it is not violating the double line by avoiding the obstacles.

  • @mattesrocket
    @mattesrocket 2 года назад +101

    it's so important, you do this, even if Tesla will hate you for this or start any arguing why it's not realistic or whatever. But they have to face the truth that there is something not working propperly, not good enough.
    But, please:
    Make something that wakes up Tesla, really: Do this test again, but this time don't use daily items but:
    Take balloons (to make the object so light that you will be able to actually run over it without damaging your car) and create with the balloons a puppet in the REAL size of a 2 years old child, so with arms and legs and a head out of balloons and put child cloths on and some wool for hairs and place it as if it would crawl on the ground, maybe like a 2 years old after it has fallen down. (Maybe you should pull on a thin cord that the balloon toddler moves A BIT.
    And film this moment closely when and how the balloon toddler gets overrun to shock everybody, so that Tesla will speed up by getting better and also maybe focussing on this insead of creating new unimportant things like funny sounds or what ever.
    It's just disappointing that not at least the expensive cars can already perform perfect automatic emergency breaks! (no matter which system they use)

    • @AIAddict
      @AIAddict  2 года назад +28

      Incorporating this into part 2. Great ideas all around here!

    • @emman100
      @emman100 2 года назад +2

      Dang you have really thought about this. Great idea. 👍

    • @Hasunori
      @Hasunori 2 года назад +1

      I think that behind the hype you don’t really know what Tesla is… Don’t expect that thief will suddenly try obeying the law and care about safety. Tesla is a Fraud.

    • @moremolecules
      @moremolecules 2 года назад +4

      You could potentially do a carboard cutout of a child or an adult or a barbecue 🙂. The car will not be damaged by a cardboard cutout.

    • @Test108ryf
      @Test108ryf 2 года назад +1

      @@AIAddict this will definitely result in media attention and hopefully will force Tesla to put more effort into fixing this. Doing great work!

  • @Brentonator
    @Brentonator 2 года назад +2

    There is so much wrong here. Iihs says it's a pedestrian and vehicle avoidance system, not a static/moving object system. You were testing auto steer, not the "FSD system". If you read what AEB and Auto steer do, they definitely don't tell you "the car should steer and brake without [your] input".

  • @Hasunori
    @Hasunori 2 года назад +11

    Consequences of Musk’s genius idea to remove radar. -anything to cut costs.

  • @allenbaylus3378
    @allenbaylus3378 2 года назад +29

    do you think that the proximity of the tree's shadows had any effect on the detection?
    Have you considered suspending things in the proper size/shape which would not damage the car and see how it behaves - like a balsa wood cutout or stuffed animal as target?

    • @rhysvanderwaerden5518
      @rhysvanderwaerden5518 2 года назад +22

      Even if it this were the case it's still obviously unacceptable.

    • @Shaqshaq_pov
      @Shaqshaq_pov 2 года назад

      Exactly not taking up for the car but it doesn’t do well with shadows plus they are on a corner going around a curve and a white truck is sitting right there it’s focusing on two many things and going too fast

  • @emman100
    @emman100 2 года назад +5

    Some parts of this video scared the hijibies out of me. 😨 You were so close to hitting them. 🤯 That's insane. Thanks for uploading. Upload more. 👍

  • @AoiKaze2000
    @AoiKaze2000 2 года назад +15

    You need to run this test again, but this time with child simulations using ballistics gel wrapped in saran wrap and done in such a way that it (hopefully) doesn't destroy the tesla.
    I think the image of that going splat on the front of the Tesla would be enough to get attention, especially if you are approaching it as "we're trying to gather data to understand what's going on here".

    • @AIAddict
      @AIAddict  2 года назад +14

      Great idea, currently looking into ballistics. Maybe Adam Savage could help. Everyone should tag him in this comment

    • @4R53Hole
      @4R53Hole 2 года назад

      @@AIAddict Put bull bars on it, with spikes and razorwire.

  • @EpicBenjo
    @EpicBenjo 2 года назад +2

    Tesla vehicles used to have radar along with their vision. The radar would detect and brake for any object in the road. But Tesla felt they were hitting a glass ceiling depending on radar and decided to drop the radar completely and go all in on their Tesla Vision. However, by doing that, they had to go many steps back and work on getting through those edge cases that the radar would have no problems detecting. This is where Tesla is right now.

    • @osinskietal
      @osinskietal 2 года назад +1

      I wonder if this Tesla still has radar?
      It is also not obvious to me if the FSD stopped using radar for vehicles equipped with radar.

    • @AIAddict
      @AIAddict  2 года назад +3

      My Tesla vehicle does have radar equipped but seems to only use the radar hardware for cruise control and summon.

    • @EpicBenjo
      @EpicBenjo 2 года назад +1

      @@AIAddict Tesla’s that still have the radar hardware have them deactivated now. They don’t work.

  • @kentaroyamada8505
    @kentaroyamada8505 2 года назад +6

    DUDE, just please be careful!

    • @marco7346
      @marco7346 2 года назад

      Performing those stunts on public roads, what could actually go wrong?

    • @rj8u
      @rj8u 2 года назад

      This is the reason Tesla fired his ass in the first place 😂.

  • @RealRusty
    @RealRusty 2 года назад +11

    You've got nerves of steel! 😅 thank you for all the tests!

  • @xg5zm
    @xg5zm 2 года назад +15

    This is what I have seen with AI aplied to the "phisical" world, very promising, a lot of potential but so far it doesn't work.

  • @duncanaronstein7462
    @duncanaronstein7462 2 года назад +7

    good video. they need to be aware of these issues. who better to call them out than someone who they fired. keep it up

  • @philsal17
    @philsal17 2 года назад +2

    I sent a link to this post to our son who is a Waymo programmer. He lives in SJC.

    • @AIAddict
      @AIAddict  2 года назад +1

      I would love to meet your son. He sounds like a really cool person.

  • @jm9371
    @jm9371 2 года назад +2

    Wow, 12K for a feature that is dangerous. If you can't rely on it, what is the point?

  • @mikekleiner3741
    @mikekleiner3741 2 года назад +5

    Thank you for these in-depth tests. I'm terrified of the average driver, and even more so when that driver starts depending on this to drive for them.

    • @AIAddict
      @AIAddict  2 года назад +4

      Same, when I let friends drive my car, they activate this stuff and then let go of the wheel. Absolutely too complacent

    • @VeganAtheistWeirdo
      @VeganAtheistWeirdo 2 года назад +2

      @@AIAddict Holy shit don't they watch your channel?! I'm gonna say it's probably time to stop letting others drive the car, sadly.

  • @BMWBRO
    @BMWBRO 3 месяца назад

    The only constant is that type of roadway. Judging by how narrow the roadway is and how dense the objects (aren’t) it’s calculating that it’s safer to go through it at that speed than off the roadway. Try an open parking lot

  • @wholmes7177
    @wholmes7177 2 года назад +4

    You need to try dropping a cardboard box out of the back of the car you are following. This happen to me in real life but it was a carpenters saw horse which I couldn't avoid!

    • @AIAddict
      @AIAddict  2 года назад +3

      Will 100% incorporate this into the next video!

  • @raptor330
    @raptor330 2 года назад +10

    Been waiting for this one

    • @AIAddict
      @AIAddict  2 года назад +7

      Hope you like it!!

  • @TechGamesAU
    @TechGamesAU 2 года назад +3

    If a pedestrian wears a shirt with a picture of a red traffic light on it, will the Tesla think it's a real light and stop?

  • @saladien9987
    @saladien9987 2 года назад

    Its still worrying that people actually think Level 2 should stop for static objects. That's the driver's job. The reason that AEB and AES exist is that sudden moving obstacles that might be dangerous (so small animals will be driven over because its considered to be safer) or endangered by the car can be avoided.

    • @saladien9987
      @saladien9987 2 года назад

      The pickup truck could be because of the missing Radar. Cameras are just very bad at detecting such dangerous situations, LIDAR should further improve this detection rate dramatically in the next few years. But its still Level 2 for now.

  • @noanyobiseniss7462
    @noanyobiseniss7462 2 года назад +5

    WHY can these systems get on the road without passing a driving test!
    I'd rather have a child drive.

    • @sking2173
      @sking2173 2 года назад +2

      Technically, the human operator is driving the car. Otherwise, the “FSD” would have to be turned off immediately.
      The fanboys that think this system is anywhere close to being autonomous are insane …

  • @teslamusketeer4360
    @teslamusketeer4360 2 года назад +5

    one problem I see is you are using AUTO PILOT on a two lane highway, auto pilot is made for the freeway and does not respond properly ib 2 lane traffic like FSD beta does. I'm sure it would work on a freeway, and I'm sure FSD beta would do fine. maybe not for the bucket but some of the other objects and defiantly the truck. I'm a beta tester and my model 3 2022 will stop if a truck or pedestrian pulls or steps in front of the car. also you need to have a destination set on the screen, seems to me when I use mine if I have plugged in a destination everything works better. probably should not mater but that's how mine seems to work.

    • @gaybrogrammer
      @gaybrogrammer Год назад +1

      From a real world perspective, these requirements are too complex for the average person to rely on safely. The type of road shouldn’t dictate whether or not the car steers around deadly obstacles.

  • @BigPezza
    @BigPezza 10 месяцев назад +1

    I was on my motorcycle and a Tesla just plowed right into me no braking at all. This video explains why. 😱😱

  • @floxer
    @floxer 2 года назад +10

    Since a lot of people seem to want to criticize Tesla for their naming and word choice, we should use their actual words:
    There is no "FSD" currently. That phrasing was only ever used when talking about what the end goal is, and the closest thing they currently have is the "FSDbeta" program.
    The thing they sell is the "Full Self-Driving Capability" package which includes features like:
    - Navigate on Autopilot
    - Auto Lane Change
    - Autopark
    - Summon
    - Full Self-Driving Computer
    - Traffic Light and Stop Sign Control
    And the coming soon stuff.
    None of which are shown or used in this video (except of course that the car has that specific computer hardware).
    You only used Traffic-Aware Cruise Control, Autosteer, and the Emergency features, all of which are included on every car.
    So you calling it "FSD" multiple times and saying stuff like "even other cars are better that don't have self-driving" is unbelievable misleading since the features that package adds were not relevant at all here.
    And the features that were relevant on this test are pretty basic.
    I think Autosteer is literally not allowed to leave its lane right? Sadly I'm unable to find any screenshots right now of the explanation text that is shown when you enable it.
    But of course the results of the testing were utterly disappointing. It's sad to see that the public features are still that dumb.
    In that point the video is helpful.

    • @floxer
      @floxer 2 года назад

      @@Grauenwolf More like I currently don't know of any actions that would make me call it fraudulent marketing to begin with.

  • @gannas42
    @gannas42 2 года назад +5

    The fact it is detecting an object in the road and alerting you but doing nothing significant to avoid the situation on its own... what?!
    I could understand if it doesn't detect something there is nothing to act on. This shows it knows and does not act appropriately.

    • @quintonwilson8565
      @quintonwilson8565 2 года назад +3

      It lacks radar and thus cannot be 100% sure it can safely stop or swerve I'm guessing

    • @AIAddict
      @AIAddict  2 года назад +1

      This is a very astute comment

    • @Brendon471
      @Brendon471 2 года назад

      No, it's just that the system he's testing was never designed to avoid/steer around objects and he's being intentionally misleading. Based on the two solid blue lines, that indicates he's in Autosteer -- the most basic form of Autopilot. All that does is keep you in lane and will brake for cars ahead of you. That's all Autosteer does. Auto emergency braking is part of the basic Autopilot package which includes Autosteer, but AEB will only brake for pedestrians, cyclists, cars, etc. You know, things that are actually common on the road. It is NOT trained to stop for office chairs in the road, grills, or any other random object that Aiaddict has lying around. And considering he worked at Tesla on the Autopilot team, I'd expect he knows this.
      Would you really want a system that would auto emergency brake for any object? Any false positive would have your car constantly braking which is why it's only trained to identify actual things that matter like people, cars and other road users. The only system that Tesla is testing that has any form of object avoidance is FSD beta, and even that is limited in what it will avoid (open car doors, some animals, etc.) and even that's only at low speeds. Aiaddict also previously tested this, so he should be aware of that too.
      To make a video like this to intentionally mislead people to think that Autopilot is something incapable system that isn't safe is ridiculous.

    • @AIAddict
      @AIAddict  2 года назад +2

      @@Brendon471 regardless of the incorrect “auto steer” claims made.
      What are your thoughts on the emergency braking system?
      It should be able to detect at least a trash can and a vehicle but failed to brake.

  • @AkiraMeow
    @AkiraMeow Год назад +2

    I'm lowkey scared it will crash like the Teslas in recent news. Stay Safe and Thank you for making this content.

  • @Nebbia_affaraccimiei
    @Nebbia_affaraccimiei 2 года назад +3

    1:54 so did they kicked you off the Beta?

  • @JacobBe5
    @JacobBe5 2 года назад +3

    Time to get some of those 39" tall real dolls (My Size, or something was their name) and see if Tesla is ready to start running over kids as well as roll through stop signs.

    • @AIAddict
      @AIAddict  2 года назад +3

      Just ordered some!!!

  • @a.h5555
    @a.h5555 2 года назад +2

    People use it every day on the highway ..and there is no problem may be some time phantom braking ...thanks for the effort..i think you use it too.

    • @habibi750
      @habibi750 2 года назад

      I agree. I just subscribed to FSD and went on a 200 mile road trip and the car performed flawlessly. I was super impressed.

  • @karim7538
    @karim7538 2 года назад +6

    can you include a camera showing the pedals? Ideally a continuous clip that shows pedals and the object. just to be sure you're not pressing any pedals. Because you can press the accelerator to override emergency breaking.

    • @AIAddict
      @AIAddict  2 года назад +5

      I can definitely incorporate that into the part 2 video

  • @610Yosiba
    @610Yosiba 2 года назад +3

    Try this with fsd beta!

    • @sanisidrocr
      @sanisidrocr 2 года назад

      Tesla doesn't want anybody that isn't mostly promoting them to use the beta software. They openly restrict usage for anybody that tries to be fair with the testing

  • @renatogyuris9569
    @renatogyuris9569 Год назад +1

    You should create objects from soft material.

  • @BA-ht8bg
    @BA-ht8bg 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for the video. This will make musk very upset.

  • @neues3691
    @neues3691 2 года назад +5

    Full self driving in five years though 🤡

  • @SuperBartet
    @SuperBartet 8 месяцев назад

    I got a Mazda CX30 GT Sport Tech this year, and I can can tell you it's emergency braking is so much better, I don't think I would be able to crash the car even if I tried. With one exception, the other night I had to defrost the windscreen, and I should have got the frost of the cameras, result was dash was flashing at me all safety systems off line. Next time we have a heavy frost I will know to make sure it's fully defrosted before I drive off.

  • @AndrewSienx
    @AndrewSienx 2 года назад +1

    There is similar test with other cars also ruclips.net/video/bRhoUqD6Opc/видео.html
    These are cars were tested:
    Tesla Model S with Ap1 and ap2
    Tesla Model 3
    Tesla Model X
    Volkswagen Golf GTE
    Audi E-tron 55 Quattro
    Jaguar iPace
    You can notice, that ADAS systems have limitations in most of the cars.
    Audi works only to 25m/h.
    M3 at 25m/h overshoots slightly.
    MS works nicely.
    Very old MS sees something, but fails.
    Jaguar iPace and VW Golf GTE didn't work at all.
    So, newer Teslas are better than the competition, but it is still work in progress for all the brands. And the test was made for slow situations of 25m/h.
    The test was not made on current models.

  • @mikesevgarage
    @mikesevgarage 2 года назад +17

    This is very weird. Especially the last example with the truck pulling out. I’ve had the exact scenario with a car pulling out in front of me more than once (not very good drivers in my area). It pulled out even later than yours did. I didn’t even have time to react and my Model Y activated the emergency brakes and slowed me enough to avoid hitting the car pulling out in front of me. My Model Y has FSD but not beta - so the same software as your model 3 (in theory).

    • @stevecool4381
      @stevecool4381 2 года назад +2

      interesting, was the lighting any different?

    • @vitallacerda
      @vitallacerda 2 года назад +4

      @@stevecool4381 Maybe you should check your system because my car works fine in both of your last situations.

    • @mikesevgarage
      @mikesevgarage 2 года назад +1

      @@stevecool4381 I'm not sure. I'm sure there is a lot that's different. I was on a 4-lane road in a different area of the country. It's happened more than once, so I need to pay better attention to the conditions next time 👍🏻

  • @jrmusan
    @jrmusan 2 года назад +8

    This was an incredible video, glad someone is doing this!!

  • @will0499
    @will0499 11 месяцев назад +1

    Your commentary is hilarious when it’s about to hit an object

  • @wreckinball11
    @wreckinball11 2 года назад +2

    One thing that is never going to happen is swerving around the object with a double yellow painted lane marking. Especially with what I call dumb autopilot and FSD. The only object i would have expected it to brake for was the truck but the original non-beta FSD was not meant for streets anyway and will be improved when the beta is complete.

    • @spazzman90
      @spazzman90 Год назад

      Correct. Insurance companies will never fault you for staying in your lane. Your chances of further injuries and damage go up like 3x as soon as you leave your lane, either left or right.

  • @techworld8961
    @techworld8961 3 месяца назад

    Swerving the car to the left in that curve with no shoulder to the left of the road increases the risk for the car to roll over that cliff.

  • @matthewpan2380
    @matthewpan2380 2 года назад +4

    That’s why I trust LiDAR more than pure vision system for now. LiDAR may not good at recognizing type of object but it’ll at least tell you the existence of the object. In pure vision, it’s all guessing game where AI guess likelihood of the objects and if it fail then it’ll learn and hopefully do better next time. Eventually, AI should gets better at those guessing game to a point that’s better than human. But, I always prefer a system that actively detect objects and surpass human’s ability vs actively getting a better guess than human.

  • @reefgratos2035
    @reefgratos2035 Год назад +1

    I have a model 3 rwd 2023 and im so afraid to use the basic auto pilot that i hardly ever use it.. simply put i don't trust it nor the emergency breaking… i always have my hand on the steering and one foot on the pedal. My $40k tesla is basically an expensive electric gokart.

  • @kennethrussell1320
    @kennethrussell1320 2 года назад

    My big concern would be that someone stands in front of your car, your car stops, and that person robs you. I kinda like a car that will run over people when necessary.

  • @matteoperron5436
    @matteoperron5436 2 года назад +3

    What model year is your car? I wonder if it has the front facing radar.

    • @AIAddict
      @AIAddict  2 года назад +5

      2021 Model 3 Long Range with Radar

  • @Supreme_Lobster
    @Supreme_Lobster 2 года назад +5

    Can you do it again with the FSD Beta? I wanna see if there are any differences

    • @AIAddict
      @AIAddict  2 года назад +4

      I’ll try and track down someone who is willing to let me do this with their beta build lol

  • @PawneeIN
    @PawneeIN 4 месяца назад

    How are people not angry for paying 12K for trash? I don’t even use it when I get free trials.

  • @seanlee2957
    @seanlee2957 Год назад

    I performed this exact same test at four different Tesla dealers on the real roads with real stopped cars in front in 2019. I tested about 30 times and both forward collision warning and emergency braking did NOT work, and I had to steer to the adjacent lane every single time. I went on to Tesla forum and all the Tesla fans and owners did NOT want to hear the truth. Their cars "self-drive". I performed the same test on cars from Nissan and Toyota. The other brands worked as expected the very first time. So I ended up buying a Nissan. I guess after 4 years, Tesla still cannot get this basic thing correct.

  • @codyzhu5461
    @codyzhu5461 2 года назад +1

    You need a real crash dummy like what IIHS uses so the radar and cameras can properly detect it

  • @mentalchild360
    @mentalchild360 2 года назад +1

    It was a nice bucket

  • @relaxationhub5229
    @relaxationhub5229 2 года назад +2

    I’m quite curious if the emergency braking is still limited in between 7 and 29mph. If this is the case, could you retry this test on a straight road going under 28mph. I feel auto pilot needs the upper hand with a straight road for static objects.
    I know this test reflects real world situations and you’d definitely want your car to emergency brake at high speeds and in all cases.

  • @fluffypinkpandas
    @fluffypinkpandas Год назад

    FSD emergency breaking is being disabled as soon as you hear the beeps to shift all of the liability to the car owner for crashing and absolving tesla in totality

  • @tttuberc
    @tttuberc Год назад +1

    Brave man. Thanks for testing that out for us

  • @mir703gmail
    @mir703gmail Год назад +1

    yeah we figured, both MYLR with FSD and MYP with Autopilot, it really lacks basic safety that our hyundai's had. we sold the MYLR and probably keep the MYP because it's more of a fun car to drive. but probably will move away from Tesla in the future.

  • @dragade101
    @dragade101 2 года назад +7

    If you run tests like this again, careful of over steering. Say you have the collision point (CP) and the near miss pathing around that CP; anything after that CP could be apart of that new pathing. You have some reasonable reactions but there is Absolutely No reason to have anyone after the CP.
    Cases:
    1. pathing around the object is not possible, and front of the car strikes object while projecting that object towards bystander.
    2. over correction or tyre fails and telsa now isnt going to adhere to intended near miss pathing (tesla may skid or continue into bystander)
    3. failure to handle the steering wheel (missing the critical turn back towards the road and thus ditching the car off the road - towards a bystanders)
    One simple solution is setting up cameras on tripods (thus removing human life in the area) while fully controlling the road for these tests.
    (With respects to a partially opened road: I was a part of controlling traffic on a mountain road (2 lane) while wearing cycling gear and having no traffic cones or flares while we waited for EMS. 1 crashed cyclist who couldnt be moved, 1 person who was stabilising the cyclist and eventually 4 people conducting traffic through the area, 2 above the crash, 1 at the crash and 1 below the crash - due to sight lines and poor reaction of drivers. Drivers who are used to be bombing about 120% of the speed limit down their favourite mountain/backroads are not looking for unusual circumstances. They are going to keep driving and not really register someone trying to flag their attention, especially americans in silicon valley. Best solution is to expect cars to ignore any directions. They will drive through this area of the road, collide and then ask why the road wasnt closed fully for testing)(I hope you had additional spotter cars to clear a larger time gap than what was shown here)

  • @TesIaCH
    @TesIaCH 2 месяца назад

    It isn't FSD. It's Enhanced Autopilot. We have this in Europe.

  • @stellasriwati3430
    @stellasriwati3430 2 года назад +2

    Would FSD BETA avoid those same objects though? Just to see the whole picture, what if any progress with BETA vs the version 2016..

    • @rj8u
      @rj8u 2 года назад

      The answer is Yes. The FSD Beta have better objects recognition in comparison to Tesla Autopilot which is by the way just a plane old dumb cruise system same as all other Cruise system out there.

  • @okgoodgame
    @okgoodgame 2 года назад

    now see if it stops for things like leaves, or anamorphic chalk drawings

  • @stampedetrail2003
    @stampedetrail2003 Год назад

    Nah man it saw right through the test, it realized it wasn't in danger, so it didn't intervene! Like that one episode of Star Trek TNG.

    • @AIAddict
      @AIAddict  Год назад +1

      This got a laugh out of me

  • @Nickrioblanco1
    @Nickrioblanco1 2 года назад +1

    You guys are crazy.

  • @catbert7
    @catbert7 2 года назад +2

    This has always been the most concerning failure of Tesla's software. It just tries to plow right through so many things that it doesn't expect to be there. FSD Beta regularly tried to drive me through a train. I can understand struggling to recognize some small obstructions, as it must be near-impossible to train it to distinguish every object, but it's particularly concerning that it fails to see large obstructions, and that it fails to react to the ones it does see. The latter seems improved on FSD Beta but these are my greatest concerns for FSD ever reaching full functionality.

  • @Tsiikki
    @Tsiikki 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for making this!

  • @CookiePepper
    @CookiePepper 2 года назад +10

    Test with FSD Beta. Thanks.

  • @weho_brian
    @weho_brian 8 месяцев назад +1

    bro risked his own life in the name of science

  • @LionheartLivin
    @LionheartLivin 2 года назад +8

    Thank you for this!!!;)

  • @emman100
    @emman100 2 года назад +2

    Great video. 👍 Try some soft balloon, life-sized, life-shaped objects next. It will allow the car to plow through them without being damaged if it does not stop in time. Try different lightings and compare to cheaper low-tech vehicles you can get on the market right now. Some people think the test is unfair because the car is not using FSD beta. Show them a cheap gasoline-powered vehicle half the cost of the tesla can handle these scenarios effortlessly while not boasting any sort of autopilot capabilities. Great work. 👍

  • @o3MTA3o
    @o3MTA3o 2 года назад +1

    Why are you testing on a curve in the road?

  • @electrified0
    @electrified0 2 года назад

    My assumption is that the only acceptable tolerances on their vision-only FSD suite to avoid excessive phantom braking (due to false positives like road markings and shadows) that smaller static objects are simply ignored. Hopefully the beta version can do better because that's obviously not acceptable for anything beyond L2.

  • @uabir8338
    @uabir8338 2 года назад +6

    Elon is trying to find a way to delete this video

    • @emman100
      @emman100 2 года назад +1

      Elon has entered the chat. 💀

    • @Nebbia_affaraccimiei
      @Nebbia_affaraccimiei 2 года назад

      this video won't be posted on Twitter that's for sure

  • @KoleckOLP
    @KoleckOLP 2 года назад +1

    Would FSD Beta react better than this or no?

  • @koaladoeseverything
    @koaladoeseverything 4 месяца назад

    the way this guy steers aggressively back to the right lane seems so dumb lol

  • @aaronmcquaid
    @aaronmcquaid 2 года назад

    I just got FSD beta today. So sad that I paid for this. It can't even drive in a straight line. It disengages constantly and tried to kill me 3 times. I was a believer and a sucker for so long. :-(

    • @AIAddict
      @AIAddict  2 года назад

      This is what I’ve tried to tell the world. I’m sorry :((

  • @EverlastingEclipses
    @EverlastingEclipses 2 года назад

    Im glad Tesla is still at its infancy with their FSD. Things like this once again reaffirms my belief that FSD has a LONG LONG way to go when it comes full self driving LOL

  • @DanFrederiksen
    @DanFrederiksen 2 года назад +2

    OK so not FSD beta. Ballsy to run over the bucket :) I'm guessing they don't avoid items because it would otherwise have spurious detections and violently swerve when nothing was there. Or give rise to phantom braking. If you can you can test the same with beta. It might be more elaborate

    • @AIAddict
      @AIAddict  2 года назад

      I agree, I do want to re-run this test again using the Beta stack. I also want to put big objects that won’t damage the vehicle so I can get closer to the objects to see if it can brake, just late.

    • @DanFrederiksen
      @DanFrederiksen 2 года назад

      @@AIAddict can you say what your role was at tesla? was it peripheral to the autopilot stuff like coding on the simulator or some of the core ML stuff?

  • @RelecFilms
    @RelecFilms 2 года назад +1

    My car always stops for beer kegs!

    • @AIAddict
      @AIAddict  2 года назад

      So does my stomach 😋

    • @sking2173
      @sking2173 2 года назад

      So does mine, and it’s Level-0 autonomous and still somehow knows a good thing when it “sees” it …

  • @aragantz1870
    @aragantz1870 2 месяца назад

    I owned a 2021 model Y and passed out at the wheel due to a health condition that I was not aware of until after my accident. I was driving approximately 25 miles an hour and the car kept going straight Hello Petsmart shoppers the time is now 855 and the store will be closing in five minutes. into a light pole and did not stop. Unfortunately I was OK with the car was totaled.

  • @frankle326
    @frankle326 2 года назад

    ‘Weapons of Math Destruction’ by Cathy O’Neil

  • @chickenp7038
    @chickenp7038 2 года назад +3

    please do it with fsd beta

  • @CorporateComedian
    @CorporateComedian 11 месяцев назад

    Do you think it didn't steer around it because it didn't want to go into an oncoming lane? Would be different (and way safer) to do this in an empty parking lot.

  • @natepulver5457
    @natepulver5457 Год назад

    I was really hoping you'd actually hit the objects lol

    • @AIAddict
      @AIAddict  Год назад

      Yeah the orange bucket on run #1 was the only object we willfully hit

  • @CelebrityLyrics
    @CelebrityLyrics 8 месяцев назад

    Dude is on BASIC AUTOPILOT and using the Tesla that has abandoned sensors for cameras (aka TeslaVision). You can't test a feature without using the correct tools. In addition, I've had automatic emergency brake brake for me because of a dude trying to brake check me. I've also heard from other Tesla owners who've had their Tesla brake for them, saving their life. To the guy who said " Haters are gonna hate and fanboys are gonna be fanboys. Don't be discouraged." sounds like a gasoline car fanboy himself driving around in a car with zero safety capabilities. At least Tesla is trying and releasing updates, making the car safer every month.

  • @rekhak8817
    @rekhak8817 2 года назад +2

    Excellent video!

  • @CristienPerez
    @CristienPerez 4 месяца назад

    I know you helped develop this software but are the safety features only active at low speeds? That’s how some other cars work so that’s why I wonder

  • @IanLandesman
    @IanLandesman 2 года назад +2

    I LOVE THIS!