Honestly revert the auto missile, and fix the fire rate. They should reward more active gameplay, rather than buffing the passive lock on. With how low damage she does, she needs to make up for it with better fire rate through primary healing.
she seems like a good mercy counter. If you have good movement, she's tough to hit, can easily keep up w/mercy, and has decent range. Plus the right click on engage.
twitch chat is complaining her dmg is shit yet when a hero with good dmg gets released they cry about that too. juno can get kills on her own but her main source of dmg is her torpedoes they do good dmg while her chip dmg can finish them off easily
I think it has to do with the rest of the supp's kit. Kiri is annoying not because of the kunai damage, but because she is very hard to punish when she takes angles because of suzu and her tp. (Not to mention she ruins other 1v1's by teleporting from 40 meters through a wall and making ur opponent invurnable). Illari has a similar issue. She has high damage but the real issue why people are upset is that Pylon lets Illari take aggressive angles and to punish Illari, you have to full send on her pylon before even trying to damage Illari. The pylon works simillary on her allies too. You have to destroy the pylon before damaging someone being healed by it, which makes you take risks you wouldn't take otherwise and ensures that the Illari gets the first shot in every duel assuming the players are similar in skill.
it says something that Dafran is the only streamer I've seen who consistently combos her missiles w/her ult. It's 120 damage auto aim!!!! Should be insanely obvious to everyone who plays at a high level.
nah, people just not used to it. like pushbot. there were so many people hate this mode but nowadays I didn't see people complaining about this mode in the begin of the match.
tbh push is actually good imo, its the pnly gameode i feel like where its always winnable as you can clutch from 0 to 100m in a couple of fights, compared to control where the first fight is so important that you might lose the whole map cuz of it. And clash is pretty good, the only reason why the last point feels hard to cap is so the game doesnt end in 2 min. It stops the attackers momentum and gives the defenders a chance to take the game back.The Clash maps are also one of the more beautiful maps in ow2.
Look I think all the people complaining about the dmg are crazy. Make up your mind guys, do you want supports to heal or dps? Something I realized while watching this gameplay was that the term "heal bot" is somewhat valid but has probably gotten out of hand. Like you don't call a dps a "damage bot" or a tank a "ability bot." I do think they may buff the dps slightly but she is a support character guys.
@@hollowvibes3599 I don't know its like maybe the game is boring. What I find interesting about dps is that there is another dps I have to beat. But in that case, you can have that in any other fps game. Like ow is a team game, thats whats supposed to be fun about it.
@@hollowvibes3599 I guess it really also comes down to what do we mean by heal botting? Thats part of the problem. Like illari is not that far from a dps. It just seems like part of support role should be healing. Thats a huge part of it.
@@Justin-vq9co Part of a support's role is to apply pressure too. For a character like Mercy or Lifeweaver that are team dependant and have somewhat unreliable weapons, its okay to be a heal bot. But for Juno, you could make an arguement that her kit and gun should encourage a lucio like playstyle where in between staying with your team, you also 1v1 someone or finish off low health heros. But her current gun just doesn't allow it in most situations where Lucio could.
Would you guys say Diamond is a fairly impressive rank to be? I'm currently stuck on Plat 3 but I know I can improve however I feel like Diamond may be where I hit my wall lol.
I feel like this hero is utter garbage unless you can get a lot of value from the speed boost. The rest of her kit just makes her a "win more" hero because she can't really add much value to an even fight besides healbotting and pressing Q
I agree she’s not a dps because she doesn’t really have pick potential as her damage is too slow, but idk why everyone is saying she’s a heal bot. She’s so easy to end up having the most kills and heals every game as well as top 3 in damage😂she’s a support bot if anything, but definitely not a heal bot. She’s good at everything except picks really
not a fan. most games i’ve played, not all but most, are essentially determined by whoever wins first point, then it’s either one of two scenarios: steamroll all points, or flip flop until the first one ends up winning in the end anyway. after a while it feels like a waste of time playing out each match unless one team manages to turn the tide
How does he not understand the game mode.. between being at B when C was the active point, and not understanding their 3rd point is SUPPOSED to be biased towards the enemy.
“Ashe is smurfing!!!” Says the perpetual smurf
her gun feels bad because it's hit scan but feels like projectile. it's too loud too sounds like there's an enemy shooting when she's on your team
The video we've all been waiting for
lul we did
If mercy would be released today, people would lose their mind that they can't dps constantly as a support
Mercy has some of the most broken utlity in the game though
@@tuna6239 so does Juno, but all people are interested in is damage
@@wardancer400huh you braindead?
@@tuna6239i never understood why people think mercy’s utility is broken... what’s so “broken” about it?
@@wardancer400damage wins games. Not healing which is why mercy and weaver suck ass
3:40 dafran: where does he go? Ana:
IN THE DESERT
and so it begins
This one will be tough without a buff tbh
@@moleedaboiit's lifeweaver 2.0... I'll put my money down that no one will get to GM 1 tricking juno
They gutted the pace of how she plays with the fire rate, but she still has the fun mobility
Fire rate needs to be reverted asap, what were they thinking. Revert the auto missile buff too if firerate is too op for them
Honestly revert the auto missile, and fix the fire rate. They should reward more active gameplay, rather than buffing the passive lock on. With how low damage she does, she needs to make up for it with better fire rate through primary healing.
12:38 winston cooking
i would pass dafran the blunt 100%
i go after him pls
hes chill asf
40 min dafran video, my day is made
Exactly what I needed right now thank you dafran
Unranked to top 500 has returned !!!
JQ, juno and Lucio is an insane comp.
No not at all
he's going so deep with that speed
Can’t wait for AlabamaState to make an appearance
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Took me a while to realise dafran was actually playing a support lol
keep going Dafran
She definitely has to be able to headshot enemies
"ok bro" -Bastion
Dafran not understanding Clash is my favorite.
she seems like a good mercy counter. If you have good movement, she's tough to hit, can easily keep up w/mercy, and has decent range. Plus the right click on engage.
Praying this character is like ball for you brother 🙏 best entertainment
Your aim is legit😮
Why this character sounds like a pigeon while she moves
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twitch chat is complaining her dmg is shit yet when a hero with good dmg gets released they cry about that too. juno can get kills on her own but her main source of dmg is her torpedoes they do good dmg while her chip dmg can finish them off easily
I think it has to do with the rest of the supp's kit. Kiri is annoying not because of the kunai damage, but because she is very hard to punish when she takes angles because of suzu and her tp. (Not to mention she ruins other 1v1's by teleporting from 40 meters through a wall and making ur opponent invurnable). Illari has a similar issue. She has high damage but the real issue why people are upset is that Pylon lets Illari take aggressive angles and to punish Illari, you have to full send on her pylon before even trying to damage Illari. The pylon works simillary on her allies too. You have to destroy the pylon before damaging someone being healed by it, which makes you take risks you wouldn't take otherwise and ensures that the Illari gets the first shot in every duel assuming the players are similar in skill.
I still don't understand why she doesn't say "It's high noon" during her right click
it says something that Dafran is the only streamer I've seen who consistently combos her missiles w/her ult. It's 120 damage auto aim!!!! Should be insanely obvious to everyone who plays at a high level.
I’m sure many players do this
It doesn’t say anything lol
Yeah understanding that her ult gives you damage boost is only what high ranked players will understand.
Genji in that last game was playing so well. Except for that one blade...
Clash is a awful mode and should've never been added
100%AGREED
Final point contesting is horrible. Takes forever to end a game
nah, people just not used to it. like pushbot. there were so many people hate this mode but nowadays I didn't see people complaining about this mode in the begin of the match.
@@bomba5350nah bro. push is fucking awful, and this new game mode is somehow worst. feels like it should be in qp
tbh push is actually good imo, its the pnly gameode i feel like where its always winnable as you can clutch from 0 to 100m in a couple of fights, compared to control where the first fight is so important that you might lose the whole map cuz of it. And clash is pretty good, the only reason why the last point feels hard to cap is so the game doesnt end in 2 min. It stops the attackers momentum and gives the defenders a chance to take the game back.The Clash maps are also one of the more beautiful maps in ow2.
Look I think all the people complaining about the dmg are crazy. Make up your mind guys, do you want supports to heal or dps? Something I realized while watching this gameplay was that the term "heal bot" is somewhat valid but has probably gotten out of hand. Like you don't call a dps a "damage bot" or a tank a "ability bot." I do think they may buff the dps slightly but she is a support character guys.
I think this character is a step in the right direction
healbot is kinda boring and useless at high elo
@@hollowvibes3599 I don't know its like maybe the game is boring. What I find interesting about dps is that there is another dps I have to beat. But in that case, you can have that in any other fps game. Like ow is a team game, thats whats supposed to be fun about it.
@@hollowvibes3599 I guess it really also comes down to what do we mean by heal botting? Thats part of the problem. Like illari is not that far from a dps. It just seems like part of support role should be healing. Thats a huge part of it.
@@Justin-vq9co Part of a support's role is to apply pressure too. For a character like Mercy or Lifeweaver that are team dependant and have somewhat unreliable weapons, its okay to be a heal bot. But for Juno, you could make an arguement that her kit and gun should encourage a lucio like playstyle where in between staying with your team, you also 1v1 someone or finish off low health heros. But her current gun just doesn't allow it in most situations where Lucio could.
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don't ask what dafran said to frogger on the juno cinematic
What he say
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What did he say
Would you guys say Diamond is a fairly impressive rank to be? I'm currently stuck on Plat 3 but I know I can improve however I feel like Diamond may be where I hit my wall lol.
Diamond is easier to get than in ow1, but it is still around top 17% of the player base. So yes.
I feel like this hero is utter garbage unless you can get a lot of value from the speed boost. The rest of her kit just makes her a "win more" hero because she can't really add much value to an even fight besides healbotting and pressing Q
Bro's hard stuck diamond
her ult is like a mixture of tree and bap window
Its mercy heal and damage boost lol
I agree she’s not a dps because she doesn’t really have pick potential as her damage is too slow, but idk why everyone is saying she’s a heal bot. She’s so easy to end up having the most kills and heals every game as well as top 3 in damage😂she’s a support bot if anything, but definitely not a heal bot. She’s good at everything except picks really
What would you say is the average damage - healing numbers you get with Juno?
This ult makes me really want an orbital beam. I know theres bastion ult but im talking a huge fkn death ray that comes down, like in valorant
what is the thing he did with his phone's flashlight?
This is not Unranked to GM this is Platinum to GM
High
WE ARE SO BACK
Hey Dafran climbs with Sigma to Top 500
does anyone like 5cp?
Better than flash point
Both are shit bring 6v6 back and obj modes if I wanted to play hard point I would go play COD
Yuh i do, pretty dynamic not gonna lie
not a fan. most games i’ve played, not all but most, are essentially determined by whoever wins first point, then it’s either one of two scenarios: steamroll all points, or flip flop until the first one ends up winning in the end anyway. after a while it feels like a waste of time playing out each match unless one team manages to turn the tide
Cant wait to place in Silver 4 after going 0-5 on Juno.
I’m so happy that my ign on over watch is Juno ❤ they made my character!!!
Chat saying she’s broken when he’s in placements 🤦♂️ she isn’t broken
How does he not understand the game mode.. between being at B when C was the active point, and not understanding their 3rd point is SUPPOSED to be biased towards the enemy.
its not dps first and healer 2nd... its healer first, dps 2nd... you heal less from far away...
RANKING SYSTEM IS BULLSHIT!!!!!
FULL OF NERDS PLAYING ON ALT ACCOUNTS SMURFING!
HOW IS HE IN A DIAMOND LOBBY IF IT ALL RESET? HMMMMM 🤔
That arch thingee seems pretty useless
Har du nogensinde hørt om en der hedder lukstar det ikke mig men han er en top 500 også dansker jeg syndes i burde lave en colab
I don't get why they allowed her in comp already, all the supports insta pick her without knowing her and it's pretty much a 4v4 😂
its a test to see if 4v4 is viable for ow 3
When mei top 500?
Uh
Everybody gotta chill on clash give it a week or 2 then trash it
mid diamond was top 500 last season dead game 5v5 tank=raid boss perma counter the tank musical chair cancel the carry zzzzz...
mid diamond wasn’t top 500 what are you even talking about lol
gun sound is so annoying and repetitive, cant watch because i'm too autistic oh well
first fn
The gun is so bad maybe add headshots but then it would just be another dps support
We hated 2 CP... they gave us 4CP... thanks OW team....
She shooting piss out of her gun or what? That thing sounds awful, and only gets progressively worse when you get lower ammo.
Competitive ctf > clash
You might be stupid lol
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not really a fun character to watch
Fr i had more fun with his mercy only
how does he get so many phone numbers for these accounts
I’ve been a clash hater since day 1, the gamemode is dookie asf
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