I remember the good old times where when you reported a cheater during a comp match, said match usually got cancelled not even after a few minutes. F2P made OW1.5 an absolute shitfest. No combating the cheaters, because Bill is fucking asleep at his desk, the influx of smurfs / boosters is even worse now, too. I work long shifts and want to chill with my friends in quickplay and do some goofy shit but even there we run into cheating POS , which then requires us to whip out the Mauga/DVA hard try sweatfest comp BECAUSE YOU CAN'T JUST LEAVE EITHER WITHOUT GETTING SUSPENDED. Thanks Blizz. Also as an Ana main with over 800h on her - if you require cheats to hit your own damn teammates: Dishonour on you, dishonour on your family and dishonour on your cow.
I mean at some point. Just play a different game for your chill nights with friends. If enough people do that. Blizzard will either fix it because there's no choice. Or just turn the servers off. You'll know how much they cared based on what they pick
@@legojay14 I just wish there were more people with a mindset like this. I jokingly describe this game as sort of like a toxic relationship. You know it's unhealthy, but you pray and hope for the miniscule chance it'll get better. We've reached the point where we mostly go for Drunkwatch and if it gets too taxing , we love to just keep in touch via Discord party, chatting away while vibing in different games. It's just sad to witness where the game stands now, since we've all connected through OW1.
@@CVELUMas f2p player that got into overwatch last year, i just wanna say that i wish i didn't play this god forsaken game. and i cant even leave, it really is a toxic relationship
Oh, don't worry, I had a hacker in my team yesterday who rolled the enemy team on Havana defence, got banned mid game (left and never came back) and I lost m1 because of that. The match never got canceled, we just got rolled because we basically had to play 3,5 v 5 (pretty sure mercy was getting boosted because she pocketed the hacker and never swapped or said anything in chat). The guy clearly got banned unless something else happened, but canceling the match? Haha, no. I'd rather play that match again with a normal teammate and lose fairly than suffer because, for some reason, games just don't get canceled.
@@CVELUMsame thing here we do this all the time me and my friends and i would describe playing ow is a toxic relationship i take long breaks but I literally go in just to play ana my main and one character I disabled in game chat and just play 3 games to 5 at most and log off
No joke, I don't think Blizzard ever had anti-cheat. I think they just have a script running to display the banner when you log in and that's it. There's nothing in there, that'd cost them dev time to actually do something.
@@nuclearsimian3281 it’s better to ban in waves than individually so cheaters have a harder time to workaround anti cheat again just a game of cat and mouse unfortunately
Honestly they need to do what rainbow six siege does, once a cheater gets banned they deleted all games that the cheater played and deleted all the mmr gained or losed. That will delete all the mmr gained from the boosted accounts
Yeah but by doing it instantly it doesnt impact legit placed teammates on the way. And makes it a bigger deterant against queueing with cheaters because they cant even delude themselves into thinking they can maintain the rank justifying it.@@firelinksshrine1695
Imagine being a casual gamer trying to raise rank only to run into cheaters multiple games in a row, I literally reported a game with the cheater and the cheater himself just two days ago, I logged on yesterday and my first two games was against him, like wtf Blizzard
@@epsorks no it isn't. There's definitely people who casually play and try and get better. And those that hard core practice in aim labs and watch hours and hours of pro tip videos and always warmup for 30 mintues and do hand exercises prior to playing and go over game film after every match like they're in tbe NFL
@@gettrroolled9000"but ban waves," i so often hear. They don't work if it's this bad without getting sniped. Ban waves are so cheaters have a harder time figuring out what detected them. Spin botting is kinda fuckin easy to detect
@@epsorks I say casual cause I myself am not super dedicated to Overwatch (in my mind, a non casual gamer is someone he spends excessive time in one or two games and plays mostly those games and rarely anything else), but I do play rank because I want to be good at the game
Prime example of why IP bans need to be a more consistent thing. Also what saddens me more is that Blizzard already tried to alleviate this exact problem somewhat by having people register a phone number and the community lost its shit, we as a community shot ourselves in the foot when it came to combating cheaters
The tracer at the beginning looked like they might have also had auto-recall hacks, since they recalled the instant they got to 50HP. And similarly the ball might have had an auto-shields hack, since when they were AFK they randomly used their shields and only their shields when they got jumped
The illari/Bap does indeed look like the Ana simply because they love to spam abilities. The Ball is someone who plays a ton of Ball but has no clue how to play against his counters hence why the Roadhog was shitty on him. The only saving grace was that the Soujourn/Tracer was hard spinbotting to make up the difference. This was 100% 4 people who paid a career cheater for cheats and a boost. Both supports aren't out of bronze, the Ashe isn't either, and the Ball is definitely hardstuck in gold or maybe plat. Players who can't learn from their mistakes taking an easy way out then boasting mid game (spawn camp) that they are simply just better when in reality without cheats their team would have been stomped into oblivion. Without the career cheater they'll fall right back down and with the next reset they'll be right back down too
i have been a game dev for over 15+ years now. The fact that OW doesnt have any input monitoring in their anti cheat is ACTUALLY astounding. Most games have one and especially with a studio like blizzard NOT having a input or movement monitoring system is crazy to me. Even if the cheat itself is bypassing that system the code should immediately trigger a breakpoint forcing the game to crash/close because of it. Thats not even considering the fact that they CLEARLY have no injection monitor server OR client side. How does a studio like blizzard NOT have something SO basic like that... Its crazy to me.
Damn. We pretty much already knew it was terrible, but to hear it from a dev themselves just makes it so much more sad/frustrating. I never dared to comment on how bad it was, but it honestly seemed really basic to pick up SPINBOTTING. So sad smh.
@@Koselill it's really unfortunate because there is very good documentation on cheats in ow1 and to a lesser extent ow2 by a guy who loved ow and taught himself infosec related things in order to understand/counter cheating by the name of Gamerdoc. He really tried to offer a lot of different solutions to a lot of different cheats and how to problem solve future cheating to the devs FOR FREE out of the goodwill and love of the game, but from what I think I remember, the devs have their hands somewhat tied in terms of priority by corp to summarize it loosely. He got hired by Riot to be an anticheat dev for Valorant very early on and he is doing well. Sucks that talent and due diligence got passed over by blizz and he wasn't the only one who tried to reach to the devs, just the one I saw the most.
@@Koselillif true. At the end of the day I could claim I’m Gabe Newell, doesn’t make it true. This is the internet and people can say anything. I doubt this guy knows what the anti cheat looks for. They tend to keep that shit quiet for obvious reasons.
Ikr, I'm mid silver and we had a Mercy who got caught in my Mei ult (she was bouncing around the payload), who got nano'd, double bubbled, and the team had the nerve to say "NO ONE touches our Mercy!". I was FUMING. The coordination and awareness to do that in a silver game was just off the charts.
As a former Mercy otp, my headcanon is absolutely that the Waternoob has a 100% guaranteed boosting policy. And the Mercy was SOOO bad, that they had to have 4 cheats on call.
being a mercy otp has nothing to do with being a loser that goes out of their way to buy boosts. but congrats on outting yourself as someone whos shit at the game.
They jump alot because its the only actual input that they can do also cheaters are everywhere not just fps games they have increased in number 100 fold its so out of control and rampant in every online game i play that im starting to think it should be internationally illegal
Yeah I went looking to see how easy it was to actually get cheats and its INSANELY easy. Kinda pathethic how much they actually pay because theyre so bad lol I cant imagine the price for cheats + boosting. I was stunned when i saw cheats FOR CHESS.
@Koselill yep pretty much every kind of game has cheats even fighting games have input readers and auto counters and stuff and game devs do pretty much fuck all to combat it because these cheaters will stream while rage hacking for literal weeks on end and not catch bans
Anybody else think this Tracer is selling the cheats and then boosting those who bought them but told them to keep it on low settings while the Tracer just goes all out claiming if they do as the Tracer says they won't get banned?
Could just be a team of boosters in order to guarantee wins because realistically one person playing perfectly can't win every game. My guess is they pay for certain plans allowing for that sorta stuff.
@@questionable_live of course not but one person getting multiple picks because the enemy team has no chance to react to perfect aim can give a significant advantage
@@xonaclan7317perhaps by having tracer on high settings, the others won’t look like they’re cheating by comparison or something. I dunno man, we’re talking about people who are paying money and risking their own security for a rank in a video game. Not a high rank mind you, just a slightly above average one. They’re not exactly the brightest.
I have never ever experienced this amount of cheaters in OW1 in all my years I played there. In OW2 is just every week nowadays, how cant Blizzard act up and get a grip. These cheaters are in every rank in comp and even QP has them. I played games since I was 6 years old, now im 38, never ever no way I have seen that high influx cheats in a multiplayer game ever than in OW2….😂
cod is actually worse. COD randoms it's like 50% of the player base is using walls. and they are in EVERY game. OW2 I am playing because it's like 1 or 2 cheaters in sweat lobbies but it's not every single game where it's as obvious.
i practically live in bronze and theres actually a fair amount of mercys who just stand and beam, not even trying to dodge any bullets (luckily there are also mercys trying their best though)
Cheaters are getting incredibly brazen and I’m guessing Blizzard’s staff reductions have hurt their ability to fight it. I’ve seen multiple days now of a person selling OW2 cheats while live streaming it on TikTok.
i'll have you know that blizzbuzz obviously graduated top of their class at the stormtrooper academy it take a high amount of skill to perfectly miss an entire ammo clip in a crowded hallway 😂
I swear to god I played with FauconChauve last night and they were hard comming telling us exactly where they were and I was wondering how they knew EXACTLY where the enemies were. They also did end up like 35 elims iirc
Well I'll just say this for whoever didnt know the answers to some of the questions flats had and more of just general stuff. Q: Why does the ana keep jumping? A: The jump is to mitigate the confusing movement that the Ana's 360 aimbot does to her. Since shes jumping, She can keep her forward momentum even after spinning 180 to heal teammates. 360 aimbot is usually for spinbots bc it completely eliminates the movement stuttering problem. Q: Why dont companies hardware ban? A: Hardware bans have little impact to anyone nowadays bc "hardware spoofing" 1 of the 10 common things talked about in cheater groups. Q: why are cheaters so rampant these days? A: theres really no punishment to it and if anything... people make a lot of money from it. Q: How would cheats be combated? A: honestly idk lol. The punishments for cheating on a game is kinda up in the air. The idea of getting absolutely destroyed by the law bc you downloaded and used aimbot for a videogame is something a LOT of people oppose. Needing an ID picture to make a profile on websites is ALSO something people are against. However, those are the only things that will really do anything substantial imo. (not that i agree with those ideas either, just stating the facts)
the best way i can explain how i feel about that bastions movement and gameplay its like they're experiencing genuinely horrible fear and anxiety, but in game instead of in real life
The runescape music was so good, especially compared to whatever that other cartoon like song was. Also i just dont understand why its so hard to make an anti cheat that can at least tell when someone is doing something physically impossible for a human to do
"Is the tank cheating? Doesn't *appear* to be..." I don't know if I'm unusually perceptive or if Flats was just blind today, because I clocked that RIGHT away.
Part of the reason to not jump is it screws up your aim, which doesn't apply to an aimbotter. Meanwhile it makes you harder to hit, at least in these ranks, though it would be more effective if it were more random. It's a lot slower than crouch and strafe spam, though.
I’ve been seeing so many hacks/Smurfs lately. This game (the first one) was actually the last night of the last season (I’m the Eliana) and it’s gotten worse this season. I didn’t fully realize it was more than the sojourn until now tbh! Frodo and I were the normal ones on that team.
Having an aimbot seems like it would be fun for one game maximum and then would get insanely boring. If you have a computer program playing the game for you then what’s the point? You’re not playing the game, which is the whole point. If you just care about winning you should just arm wrestle 2nd graders, it’s more a reliable W.
9:16 flats seeing such a clear hard lock and going "doesn't appear to be" about the WB, is so funny to me. Like, you could watch it perfectly tracking the Hog's head, its just that it was tracking it through his back, so it wasn't actually getting headshots. of course, he realized it just a bit later, but it had me cackling when he actually realized
Hey man. Just wanted to say thank you. I was out of overwatch and content in general until I came across your stuff and you legit inspired me to start doing things again. Re engaging in a creative outlet has really helped me a lot. In a weird way I think you saved my marriage lmao so thanks man. Keep up the amazing work
Dear editors, I think it would be really cool to have some silly thing to edit onto flats to show he's reading chat, like a hat or a speech or thought bubble coming from the word chat or something for bits like at 8:27
You would think with cheats as obvious as spin-botting that accounts would be getting insta banned. ESPECIALLY if it's like Flats suggested and these people are making a living off of the carries. It means they are on ALL the time. Enough to develop a pattern for even a mildly soft potato anti cheat software to cull them out. Blizzard needs to get serious with anti cheat software if they want this game to survive. Player reports will NEVER be enough to stem this tide.
i actually re watched the match then successfully got a cheater caught thanks to your vids. Normally I just say whatever and move on but watching the notification that we actually got them pop up is always fun.
That ball is 100% the guy who boosts for money but doesn’t want to go “there’s a chance we lose because I can also mess up”, so puts on soft lock cheats in order to eliminate that as much as possible. It’s clear they have mechanical skill that means they don’t really need cheats the way the others do, I reckon it’s an insurance so they actually do their “job”. After all…If you’re getting paid to boost, why not add insurance when the gave doesn’t even detect cheats?
yea an people don't believe me when i say i find around 10 cheaters a day after 8-12 hours of playing the game in gold. seriously were all the cheaters come from in this game i found less cheater in ow1. fucking how? then you go to report the cheater an then the cheaters talk shit that they have 12 accounts.
The sad thing is. That's someone's main account because of comic book tracer. That or they bought and account with unique skins which will get banned and taken out of the pool of players
The trials boosting in Destiny 2 used to be a big thing. Either ppl would run with your account (possibly cheat) or run with a group of 2 others to get the trials carry. Feels very similar to here with boosting.
I absolutely, positively cannot fathom people like this. They're just not even playing the game, the computer is doing everything for them. How on earth is this more enjoyable or any different from watching someone else play
"Why yes, SkibidiMan69 from the Overwatch hacking Discord server that got banned 500 times, I will gladly give you kernel-level access to my computer so you can make me spin around and hit every shot in an online video game." Why are we not teaching tech literacy in elementary school? Shit like this is why we have so many botnets nowadays
One question I've always had for cheats. Not "Why do you hate other people's fun." Not "How much are you trying to compensate for a lacking downstairs." My question is "Why spinning?"
Siege had a massive cheating problem and a few weeks ago Ubisoft introduced bianary hardening and the cheaters still exist but the anti cheat eventually gets them and the main cheat provider stopped making cheats because bianary hardening made it so expensive to produce cheats
Overwatch needs somthing like Counterstrike has/had (i haven’t played in forever) where people at a certain rank watch replays of games for people being reported and can decide if they’re cheating or not
Is Ana's cheats binded to her jump? Cause she jumping all the time so im curious about that part. "BOB, DO SOMETHING" Bob: I fix. -> Play of the Game easy. The Mercy also should rly try something called " Mercy Parkour " in custom games lol.
The most surprising is that, this Mercy managed to unlock Ranked with their keyboard broken and their screen off
Maybe they were boosted to unlock ranked LOL Looks like a new player
@@Indie-A-tom if they aré so trash to need cheaters they aré not even at the level of "new player"
Rank ready accounts are $5.
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Bro I just almost spit out my coffee laughing at the zooming in on "ITS NOT SO BAD IF I DO THAT"
Flats is absolutely jorkin it. And by it. I mean his moose
@@redpandagamer4332 mouse putting in overtime
Someone clip that
It wasn't that funny. Didn't even get a smile out of me
@I_am_a_cat_ well I'm glad ur a stone cold straight face. I was not xD
Dude the t-posing Ramattra gets me every time😂
i want the devs to be like "we are aware of the bug with the t posing ram however we decided to keep it because its funny af"
The way his arms move when he walks lol
@@PurpleMoon799honestly we should petition they keep the bug, i love seeing it
@@gamerguy2746 or make t pose emote
Like the floating crab Hammond, it's infrequent enough to remain funny every time. But, minor point: it's an A-pose.
I never understand why these people want to "boost" to higher ranks. Youre just gonna get rolled when you play by yourself because you suck
The worst part is they’re going to ruin the games of people who actually worked hard to earn their rank
These are the people who tell you their teammates are holding their rank back.
Because they're delusional and think it's entirely their team mates stopping them from climbing
@samhamwich518 not for long. They would lose their placement the DAY they lose the carry. They are just that garbage.
they just blame their teammates its never their fault for being 4 times higher in rank than they are capable of playing in
"They're so scared of the torb turret."
Of course they are. Their cheats can't head shot a turret
I remember the good old times where when you reported a cheater during a comp match, said match usually got cancelled not even after a few minutes. F2P made OW1.5 an absolute shitfest. No combating the cheaters, because Bill is fucking asleep at his desk, the influx of smurfs / boosters is even worse now, too.
I work long shifts and want to chill with my friends in quickplay and do some goofy shit but even there we run into cheating POS , which then requires us to whip out the Mauga/DVA hard try sweatfest comp BECAUSE YOU CAN'T JUST LEAVE EITHER WITHOUT GETTING SUSPENDED.
Thanks Blizz.
Also as an Ana main with over 800h on her - if you require cheats to hit your own damn teammates:
Dishonour on you, dishonour on your family and dishonour on your cow.
I mean at some point. Just play a different game for your chill nights with friends. If enough people do that. Blizzard will either fix it because there's no choice. Or just turn the servers off. You'll know how much they cared based on what they pick
@@legojay14 I just wish there were more people with a mindset like this. I jokingly describe this game as sort of like a toxic relationship. You know it's unhealthy, but you pray and hope for the miniscule chance it'll get better.
We've reached the point where we mostly go for Drunkwatch and if it gets too taxing , we love to just keep in touch via Discord party, chatting away while vibing in different games.
It's just sad to witness where the game stands now, since we've all connected through OW1.
@@CVELUMas f2p player that got into overwatch last year, i just wanna say that i wish i didn't play this god forsaken game. and i cant even leave, it really is a toxic relationship
Oh, don't worry, I had a hacker in my team yesterday who rolled the enemy team on Havana defence, got banned mid game (left and never came back) and I lost m1 because of that. The match never got canceled, we just got rolled because we basically had to play 3,5 v 5 (pretty sure mercy was getting boosted because she pocketed the hacker and never swapped or said anything in chat).
The guy clearly got banned unless something else happened, but canceling the match? Haha, no. I'd rather play that match again with a normal teammate and lose fairly than suffer because, for some reason, games just don't get canceled.
@@CVELUMsame thing here we do this all the time me and my friends and i would describe playing ow is a toxic relationship i take long breaks but I literally go in just to play ana my main and one character I disabled in game chat and just play 3 games to 5 at most and log off
It's concerning that giga bob is the closest thing to anti cheat blizzard have....
Don't forget Mauga and torb turrets
No joke, I don't think Blizzard ever had anti-cheat. I think they just have a script running to display the banner when you log in and that's it. There's nothing in there, that'd cost them dev time to actually do something.
@@silvory7021 tank is the anticeheat
@@nuclearsimian3281 it’s better to ban in waves than individually so cheaters have a harder time to workaround anti cheat again just a game of cat and mouse unfortunately
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Honestly they need to do what rainbow six siege does, once a cheater gets banned they deleted all games that the cheater played and deleted all the mmr gained or losed. That will delete all the mmr gained from the boosted accounts
Let's be real with the way the people they're boosting are playing they're going back down to bronze within a week if they try to play any games
Yeah but by doing it instantly it doesnt impact legit placed teammates on the way. And makes it a bigger deterant against queueing with cheaters because they cant even delude themselves into thinking they can maintain the rank justifying it.@@firelinksshrine1695
The spinbotting tracer looks like a peanuts character dancing when in third person
Does the spinning bot shows like normal to players in a normal game but in the replays shows it spinning ??
@@TAA845 For everyone else in the lobby, they see the spinning character. Theoretically on the spinbotter's screen, they're playing normally.
Imagine being a casual gamer trying to raise rank only to run into cheaters multiple games in a row, I literally reported a game with the cheater and the cheater himself just two days ago, I logged on yesterday and my first two games was against him, like wtf Blizzard
"casual gamer" "raise rank" that's an oxymoron
i ended up qutting bc the cheating problem is so bad. no other game has this many cheaters, valorants anticheat works perfectly fine.
@@epsorks no it isn't. There's definitely people who casually play and try and get better.
And those that hard core practice in aim labs and watch hours and hours of pro tip videos and always warmup for 30 mintues and do hand exercises prior to playing and go over game film after every match like they're in tbe NFL
@@gettrroolled9000"but ban waves," i so often hear. They don't work if it's this bad without getting sniped. Ban waves are so cheaters have a harder time figuring out what detected them. Spin botting is kinda fuckin easy to detect
@@epsorks I say casual cause I myself am not super dedicated to Overwatch (in my mind, a non casual gamer is someone he spends excessive time in one or two games and plays mostly those games and rarely anything else), but I do play rank because I want to be good at the game
Prime example of why IP bans need to be a more consistent thing. Also what saddens me more is that Blizzard already tried to alleviate this exact problem somewhat by having people register a phone number and the community lost its shit, we as a community shot ourselves in the foot when it came to combating cheaters
They still require the phone number. You can just make a spoof number or buy one of the thousands of OW1 accounts out there.
ip bans do literally nothing
IP bans can be circumvented. HWID bans may do more than an IP ban could, outside of spoofers.
@@maxboyden5209ow1 accounts still need numbers though. Source: I played since early ow1, needed a phone number going into ow2.
The tracer at the beginning looked like they might have also had auto-recall hacks, since they recalled the instant they got to 50HP. And similarly the ball might have had an auto-shields hack, since when they were AFK they randomly used their shields and only their shields when they got jumped
The illari/Bap does indeed look like the Ana simply because they love to spam abilities. The Ball is someone who plays a ton of Ball but has no clue how to play against his counters hence why the Roadhog was shitty on him. The only saving grace was that the Soujourn/Tracer was hard spinbotting to make up the difference. This was 100% 4 people who paid a career cheater for cheats and a boost. Both supports aren't out of bronze, the Ashe isn't either, and the Ball is definitely hardstuck in gold or maybe plat. Players who can't learn from their mistakes taking an easy way out then boasting mid game (spawn camp) that they are simply just better when in reality without cheats their team would have been stomped into oblivion. Without the career cheater they'll fall right back down and with the next reset they'll be right back down too
i have been a game dev for over 15+ years now. The fact that OW doesnt have any input monitoring in their anti cheat is ACTUALLY astounding. Most games have one and especially with a studio like blizzard NOT having a input or movement monitoring system is crazy to me.
Even if the cheat itself is bypassing that system the code should immediately trigger a breakpoint forcing the game to crash/close because of it. Thats not even considering the fact that they CLEARLY have no injection monitor server OR client side. How does a studio like blizzard NOT have something SO basic like that... Its crazy to me.
The reason they don’t have all these systems in place is because they don’t give a fuck about the cheating problem
Damn. We pretty much already knew it was terrible, but to hear it from a dev themselves just makes it so much more sad/frustrating. I never dared to comment on how bad it was, but it honestly seemed really basic to pick up SPINBOTTING. So sad smh.
@@Koselill it's really unfortunate because there is very good documentation on cheats in ow1 and to a lesser extent ow2 by a guy who loved ow and taught himself infosec related things in order to understand/counter cheating by the name of Gamerdoc. He really tried to offer a lot of different solutions to a lot of different cheats and how to problem solve future cheating to the devs FOR FREE out of the goodwill and love of the game, but from what I think I remember, the devs have their hands somewhat tied in terms of priority by corp to summarize it loosely. He got hired by Riot to be an anticheat dev for Valorant very early on and he is doing well.
Sucks that talent and due diligence got passed over by blizz and he wasn't the only one who tried to reach to the devs, just the one I saw the most.
This game feels like it was designed to frustrate players instead of being fun, looks intentional... I don't know
@@Koselillif true. At the end of the day I could claim I’m Gabe Newell, doesn’t make it true.
This is the internet and people can say anything. I doubt this guy knows what the anti cheat looks for. They tend to keep that shit quiet for obvious reasons.
If I had a nickel every time a 5 stack of cheater get dumped on by BOB, I have two nickels…
Which is funny because it happened twice.
You missed the "which isnt alot just strange"
Problem is its not strange anymore its commonplace@@requiemcurse
It blows my mind because you know there's a 99% chance that boosted mercy told herself "I'm way better than Bronze, my teammates just suck!"
Ikr, I'm mid silver and we had a Mercy who got caught in my Mei ult (she was bouncing around the payload), who got nano'd, double bubbled, and the team had the nerve to say "NO ONE touches our Mercy!". I was FUMING. The coordination and awareness to do that in a silver game was just off the charts.
As a former Mercy otp, my headcanon is absolutely that the Waternoob has a 100% guaranteed boosting policy. And the Mercy was SOOO bad, that they had to have 4 cheats on call.
being a mercy otp has nothing to do with being a loser that goes out of their way to buy boosts. but congrats on outting yourself as someone whos shit at the game.
They jump alot because its the only actual input that they can do also cheaters are everywhere not just fps games they have increased in number 100 fold its so out of control and rampant in every online game i play that im starting to think it should be internationally illegal
Yeah I went looking to see how easy it was to actually get cheats and its INSANELY easy. Kinda pathethic how much they actually pay because theyre so bad lol I cant imagine the price for cheats + boosting. I was stunned when i saw cheats FOR CHESS.
@Koselill yep pretty much every kind of game has cheats even fighting games have input readers and auto counters and stuff and game devs do pretty much fuck all to combat it because these cheaters will stream while rage hacking for literal weeks on end and not catch bans
Anybody else think this Tracer is selling the cheats and then boosting those who bought them but told them to keep it on low settings while the Tracer just goes all out claiming if they do as the Tracer says they won't get banned?
Could just be a team of boosters in order to guarantee wins because realistically one person playing perfectly can't win every game. My guess is they pay for certain plans allowing for that sorta stuff.
@@questionable_live of course not but one person getting multiple picks because the enemy team has no chance to react to perfect aim can give a significant advantage
What would keeping it on low settings do, I'm confused?
@@xonaclan7317 to avoid immediate detection. Think slight of hand
@@xonaclan7317perhaps by having tracer on high settings, the others won’t look like they’re cheating by comparison or something.
I dunno man, we’re talking about people who are paying money and risking their own security for a rank in a video game. Not a high rank mind you, just a slightly above average one.
They’re not exactly the brightest.
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God, the last minute and a half of the last match left such a bad taste in my mouth. Disgusting behavior.
I have never ever experienced this amount of cheaters in OW1 in all my years I played there. In OW2 is just every week nowadays, how cant Blizzard act up and get a grip. These cheaters are in every rank in comp and even QP has them. I played games since I was 6 years old, now im 38, never ever no way I have seen that high influx cheats in a multiplayer game ever than in OW2….😂
cod is actually worse. COD randoms it's like 50% of the player base is using walls. and they are in EVERY game. OW2 I am playing because it's like 1 or 2 cheaters in sweat lobbies but it's not every single game where it's as obvious.
Flat: You guys okay down there
Me, audibly: *NO, BRUH* we are down here getting BULLIED. By the cheats 😂
I love that Activision calls their anticheat "Ricochet", while Blizzard calls theirs "Bob"
4:00 ok to be fair the D.Va's defense matrix was in the doorway so it wasn't that he was missing, it's that she was eating all his ammo
I am so bummed I missed this live!
The editing on this though - top notch, per usual! 👌
We can all agree that all cheaters are pathetic, not even to a degree they're just straight pathetic.
"How this is not get pick up?"
You say that like there's an anti-cheat system in this game.
There is kek
What's an anti-cheat?
i practically live in bronze and theres actually a fair amount of mercys who just stand and beam, not even trying to dodge any bullets (luckily there are also mercys trying their best though)
I saw the TPosing Ramattra only once in game and never again it scared tf out of me because it was the enemy lol. Had no idea it was a known bug
At 1:16 without context looks so wrong. lmao
😂
Cheaters are getting incredibly brazen and I’m guessing Blizzard’s staff reductions have hurt their ability to fight it. I’ve seen multiple days now of a person selling OW2 cheats while live streaming it on TikTok.
Imagine this being those date gaming platforms where you pay people to play with you but with cheats
The Mario music was perfect when they started spawn holding😂
i'll have you know that blizzbuzz obviously graduated top of their class at the stormtrooper academy
it take a high amount of skill to perfectly miss an entire ammo clip in a crowded hallway 😂
I swear to god I played with FauconChauve last night and they were hard comming telling us exactly where they were and I was wondering how they knew EXACTLY where the enemies were. They also did end up like 35 elims iirc
Well I'll just say this for whoever didnt know the answers to some of the questions flats had and more of just general stuff.
Q: Why does the ana keep jumping?
A: The jump is to mitigate the confusing movement that the Ana's 360 aimbot does to her. Since shes jumping, She can keep her forward momentum even after spinning 180 to heal teammates. 360 aimbot is usually for spinbots bc it completely eliminates the movement stuttering problem.
Q: Why dont companies hardware ban?
A: Hardware bans have little impact to anyone nowadays bc "hardware spoofing" 1 of the 10 common things talked about in cheater groups.
Q: why are cheaters so rampant these days?
A: theres really no punishment to it and if anything... people make a lot of money from it.
Q: How would cheats be combated?
A: honestly idk lol. The punishments for cheating on a game is kinda up in the air. The idea of getting absolutely destroyed by the law bc you downloaded and used aimbot for a videogame is something a LOT of people oppose. Needing an ID picture to make a profile on websites is ALSO something people are against. However, those are the only things that will really do anything substantial imo. (not that i agree with those ideas either, just stating the facts)
Ppl be getting comms banned faster than the cheaters
bruh at like 1:10 I looked away for a bit to grab my food and turned back and seen that.
1:10 The only thought watching flats fight that tracers third person camera at the start was the Doc Oc scene from Spiderman
"It will soon stabilize!"
That mercy play hurt me so much as a mercy main 💀
This Ana equipped that Mario Wonder badge that forces you to jump nonstop
That did not look like he was moving his mouse…
9:42 - Flats when he realizes the tank is ALSO cheating had me ROLLING lmaooooooooo and that scream at 9:54 !
Who duct taped the go pro on the F-ing beyblade, good gods the motion sickness.
The amount of faces flats has made in this videos is amazing
the best way i can explain how i feel about that bastions movement and gameplay
its like they're experiencing genuinely horrible fear and anxiety, but in game instead of in real life
The runescape music was so good, especially compared to whatever that other cartoon like song was.
Also i just dont understand why its so hard to make an anti cheat that can at least tell when someone is doing something physically impossible for a human to do
"Is the tank cheating? Doesn't *appear* to be..."
I don't know if I'm unusually perceptive or if Flats was just blind today, because I clocked that RIGHT away.
they deadass had to pull out the whole squad to carry that god awful mercy
3:30 idk what is with me but I also am just always jumping. I think I got it from playing apex where you slide jump every second
Part of the reason to not jump is it screws up your aim, which doesn't apply to an aimbotter. Meanwhile it makes you harder to hit, at least in these ranks, though it would be more effective if it were more random. It's a lot slower than crouch and strafe spam, though.
They have to keep jumping to keep that single braincell in their head moving
this might also explain why ive been getting alot of really bad mercy and other support players when i play on my diamond/masters support
I’ve been seeing so many hacks/Smurfs lately. This game (the first one) was actually the last night of the last season (I’m the Eliana) and it’s gotten worse this season. I didn’t fully realize it was more than the sojourn until now tbh! Frodo and I were the normal ones on that team.
@@ElianaxIsabellawhats sad is i played against waternoob last night🙃🙃
@@The64332 HOW ARE THEY NOT BANNED? Like what?
@@ElianaxIsabella “500,000” cheaters banned to😂😂😂😂
I don’t understand boosts? The moment the booster leaves you will just fall right back down to your previous rank
Love the "Generational Feed". It's like "your ancesters will tell stories about the time you fed the enemy team so bad"
Cheaters everywhere. Anti cheat barely does anything. Ximmers still running around on console. Nobody gets to have fun.
That hog in the 2nd clip was doing gods work
Blizzard anti cheat went on Vacation and ask Flats to clock in.😂
The fact that the replay opens with the tracer staring at the floor means u know EXACTLY what’s abt to happen 😂
Having an aimbot seems like it would be fun for one game maximum and then would get insanely boring. If you have a computer program playing the game for you then what’s the point? You’re not playing the game, which is the whole point. If you just care about winning you should just arm wrestle 2nd graders, it’s more a reliable W.
9:16 flats seeing such a clear hard lock and going "doesn't appear to be" about the WB, is so funny to me. Like, you could watch it perfectly tracking the Hog's head, its just that it was tracking it through his back, so it wasn't actually getting headshots. of course, he realized it just a bit later, but it had me cackling when he actually realized
Hey man. Just wanted to say thank you. I was out of overwatch and content in general until I came across your stuff and you legit inspired me to start doing things again. Re engaging in a creative outlet has really helped me a lot. In a weird way I think you saved my marriage lmao so thanks man. Keep up the amazing work
Dear editors, I think it would be really cool to have some silly thing to edit onto flats to show he's reading chat, like a hat or a speech or thought bubble coming from the word chat or something for bits like at 8:27
You can just tell he’s reading chat, it doesn’t sound like he’s talking his thoughts there lol
the fact that this isn't insta ban is terrifying
it just look like old cod game
You would think with cheats as obvious as spin-botting that accounts would be getting insta banned. ESPECIALLY if it's like Flats suggested and these people are making a living off of the carries. It means they are on ALL the time. Enough to develop a pattern for even a mildly soft potato anti cheat software to cull them out.
Blizzard needs to get serious with anti cheat software if they want this game to survive. Player reports will NEVER be enough to stem this tide.
i actually re watched the match then successfully got a cheater caught thanks to your vids. Normally I just say whatever and move on but watching the notification that we actually got them pop up is always fun.
11:22 bob is like "you like aimbot? i'll show you aimbot!!"
Bro Alllll these bastions hurt my soul no grenade jumping for movement is wild, no grande jump diving
That ball is 100% the guy who boosts for money but doesn’t want to go “there’s a chance we lose because I can also mess up”, so puts on soft lock cheats in order to eliminate that as much as possible. It’s clear they have mechanical skill that means they don’t really need cheats the way the others do, I reckon it’s an insurance so they actually do their “job”. After all…If you’re getting paid to boost, why not add insurance when the gave doesn’t even detect cheats?
3:10 my best guess would be that since they don't have to aim, they're jumping for more hitbox movement. just making it a bit harder to hit them.
did all the CS cheaters move? tf, how is it still getting worse lmao
1:57 perfect music moment
flats is on that gooning streak in the beginning fr
yea an people don't believe me when i say i find around 10 cheaters a day after 8-12 hours of playing the game in gold. seriously were all the cheaters come from in this game i found less cheater in ow1. fucking how? then you go to report the cheater an then the cheaters talk shit that they have 12 accounts.
“This guy might need the cheats” sent me into orbit 😭
11:18 Bob did something
"how does this not get picked up" well you see, overwatch doesn't have an anti-cheat
That mercy disgusts me.
The sad thing is. That's someone's main account because of comic book tracer. That or they bought and account with unique skins which will get banned and taken out of the pool of players
As an ana main, the jump is tactical
The trials boosting in Destiny 2 used to be a big thing. Either ppl would run with your account (possibly cheat) or run with a group of 2 others to get the trials carry. Feels very similar to here with boosting.
That Illari and Ball play was such a good combo I’m baffled they cheating til the Bob smacked em on the head 😭
11:50 Poor Flats having trauma flashbacks ☠️
10:45 Yes way
I absolutely, positively cannot fathom people like this. They're just not even playing the game, the computer is doing everything for them. How on earth is this more enjoyable or any different from watching someone else play
"Why yes, SkibidiMan69 from the Overwatch hacking Discord server that got banned 500 times, I will gladly give you kernel-level access to my computer so you can make me spin around and hit every shot in an online video game."
Why are we not teaching tech literacy in elementary school? Shit like this is why we have so many botnets nowadays
the third person is unironically worse than the first person lmao
Thanks for the spin warning 😂. That was crazy.
I remember the days when it only took 1 rage hacker to boost someone. Now with inflation, it takes 2+.
I just watched the 5 stack video, crazy to see an upload for another one!
One question I've always had for cheats. Not "Why do you hate other people's fun." Not "How much are you trying to compensate for a lacking downstairs." My question is "Why spinning?"
1:11 We got edging flats in Overwatch 2 before GTA 6
miku stop ts 😭😭😭
JESUS CHRIST THAT MATCH START HAD MY EYES GOING FUCKING BANANAS
Siege had a massive cheating problem and a few weeks ago Ubisoft introduced bianary hardening and the cheaters still exist but the anti cheat eventually gets them and the main cheat provider stopped making cheats because bianary hardening made it so expensive to produce cheats
Overwatch needs somthing like Counterstrike has/had (i haven’t played in forever) where people at a certain rank watch replays of games for people being reported and can decide if they’re cheating or not
Is Ana's cheats binded to her jump? Cause she jumping all the time so im curious about that part.
"BOB, DO SOMETHING" Bob: I fix. -> Play of the Game easy.
The Mercy also should rly try something called " Mercy Parkour " in custom games lol.
she's spamming jump to make herself harder to shoot. That's their level of tactics they understand.
2:19 it doesn’t get picked up because like most rules/regulations, they are there to give the illusion that the rule designers care
"your Overwatch rank is completely dependent on how you play." Meanwhile in bronze...
God I love the Wind Waker music in the background. As a WW Speedrunner I found this incredibly distracting