As an Arab I was pleasantly surprised that a lot of Frank Herberts inspiration came from the resource and power struggle in the middle east and with arakkis and spice being Muslim countries with Oil, and this even extends into a lot of the words and fashion in the world. for example Lisan Al Ghaib, means Tongue of the Unkown (The Future) in Arabic. Even that little mouse creature is a real desert critter called a Jerboa, they are native to my country Kuwait!
That’s actually the one reason to why I was interested to read the books and now I’m nearly finished with the last book and safe to say it’s my favorite book saga
Herbert wrote Dune back in 1965. Folks talk a lot about how Dune reminds them of Tattooine, but actually, it's the other way around. Couple of things that didn't get spoken in the movie which help with comprehension. (No spoiilers, history facts). This is Earth's far distant future. We had a computer AI uprising and subsequent wars, and after humanity finally won, social rules became very strict - no thinking machines. That's why this is futuristic, but there are no computers. Everything is done by humans with special training. Bene Gesserit "magic" is special training in observation of micro-minutia, meditation, and self-mastery. (The "Voice" is just manipulating vocal cords to find the right frequency of compulsion). Thufir Hawat and Piter, both with the black mark on their lower lips, one with House Atreides and one with House Harkonnen, are "Mentats" - humans with special mental training for higher math computations and memory tricks... that's why his eyes turned white/rolled back and he provided Duke Leto the calculations for how much money the imperial trip cost to Caladan. Mentats provide the computational services for leaders and powerful folks since the AI wars now forbid thinking machines. There are generally no guns because of the widespread use of personal shields. Since bullets and traditional ammunition have no way to slow down at the end, their quick momentum gets blocked by the shields. The projectiles that hit the dart through Leto's shield and hit the grounded spaceships you'll note had two speeds - quick until they hit the shield, and then slow/burrowing speed to penetrate the shield. The invasion force also didn't drop the general bombs until all of the shield-based warships had been nullified by the special ammo. So it's an interresting world in the future where interstellar travel is common, but there are no computers or AI units of any kind, humanity has extended their innate capacity in closed orders and training programs of various kinds, and since everyone has energy shields, bullets and guns are historical artifacts while swords and knives are once again the way we go to war. Herbert was a visionary, for certain.
@@Legiox Well the shield would overload and explode like a nuke, so they stopped using energy weapons, and since normal weapons like we use today are useless they use swords instead.
For sure , I watched it at home , mason always loves the movies I love too haha , so it is always nice watching their reactions ! We have the same taste for sure
I've been a psycho fan of the Dune books since my dad introduced them to me when I was a kid. When I first saw this version of the story, I literally cried... because I was so relieved they didn't fuck it up. Denis Villeneuve is my homeboy for life. Edit: Also, "the slow blade penetrates the shield" is very good advice. I think of this often, along with the Litany Against Fear.
My first time watching, I didn't quite enjoy it, because I was so anxious it was going to be screwed up. Afterwards, I felt a lot of relief. Watched it a second time soon after, and enjoyed it a lot more because I wasn't worried anymore.
This is probably one of the most difficult books to turn into a movie. The fact that they produced what they did is quite an accomplishment. I wish Jessica was a little stronger in the movie...she was a little too anxious in some scenes but other than that I can't complain. I think the fact that I've read the book several times helped.
They have to somehow get all the internal dialogues out onto the screen somehow. Showing some emotion on her face reflects the internal fears she's dealing with.
The other thing, besides showing emotional internal dialogue, is notice she never is emotional like that in front of anyone. She composes before being 'in public'.
@christiansaenscheidt9056 I was just about to comment that the story is almost tailor made for a multi-season television series, rather than movies. I had no idea they already made one.
I've been waiting for this reaction! Love it, guys! Just one clarifying comment: There's no firearms because laser weapons interact with the shields and cause entirely unpredictable reactions up to nuclear explosions. As for mechanical firearms, shields make them ineffective. You do see the Harkonnen's use laser weapons in their assault, but that's an outrageous and risky move that violates this universe's version of the Geneva convention. As soon as shields were invented, everybody basically went back to sword fighting
It doesn't violate the Great Convention. The Holtzman effect when a laser crosses a shield, while does damage equivalent to a nuke, is not against the Convention. Only actual atomic weapons are, presumably because of the radiation damage dealt to those outside the actual blast radius, and the corruption of everything left behind.
It's interesting how it's sort of used in a metaphorical way, to "kill" someone it needs to get close to the other person. And if it's done from far away it brings destruction to both, causing the death of someone else is like causing the death of itself. From far away is utter destruction, and from close quarters gives the impact of being close, it turns the fight much more personal, much more important.
Yes, Lasguns shooting at a shield causes a nuclear explosion which can happen either at the target or at the source of the gun or bot, so its very risky shooting a laser at a shield. If I remember correctly in the book Duncan shoots his lasgun at the main shieldwall of the city in desperation and he was lucky enough it only exploded at the shield and not his location as well.
The Answer's shocked and disappointed 'Oh No!' when the movie finished summed it up perfectly. From going in blind to total investment is real testament to the quality of the movie. Glad you enjoyed the experience. I'd love to see react to David Lynch's Dune as well.
"I'm not following this plot." Ten minutes later, perfectly explains the plot. Great comeback. There are eight books, and they just got halfway through the first one. So yeah, there's definite franchise potential here.
Hopefuly Villeneuve (the movie director) knows when to stop, because Herbert (the book writter) sure did not, things get pretty weird and eventually bad.
@@jotairpontes I liked it, God Emperor is peak Dune, shit gets wild and the universe gets really expanded. After that it gets very weird but I still enjoyed it. I think people hate on it because the series got popular due to the 1st novel being such a straightforward hero's journey, if you are unable to read between the lines. Then Herbert went wild with this world he created and made it extremely existential, he also went way more sci fi and philosophy than straightforward adventure. And as we know, people want more of the same, I personally am very happy that he created something timeless and provocative, and unique, instead of sticking with a formula and making something forgettable. It was the 1st book series I read that made me genuinely amazed and engaged with how fucking weird it got, it's special.
Glad you liked it! Indeed, the story is quite compelling, and they stayed pretty close to the original story and scenes of the book. Some details were omitted, but that's unavoidable when adapting such a lore-heavy book. As to give you some info on the lore and politics of the Duniverse, so it becomes a bit more clear: You have 4 major powerblocks in this universe: 1)The Emperor (and his army, the Sardaukar) 2)The Landsraad, consisting of a dozen Great Houses (and many Minor Houses, all vying for power). Think Game-of-Thrones here, but in sci-fi setting. ;-) 3)The Bene Gesserit; a semi-religious Order, consisting of women, whom have certain powers (like the Voice, or being a Truthsayer, and some others not shown yet) and exert a lot of behind-the-scenes influence, but mostly stay low-profile 4) The Guild Navigators and CHOAM; a strong mercantile power, with a monopoly on spacetravel It was more or less explained in the beginnings when Paul talked with his dad on Caladan: House Atreides is a growing power, politically and military, and the Emperor feels threatened. But he can't directly attack the House, because otherwise the Landsraad (the ensemble of Great houses) will turn against him. As said, they each constitute a "big power" in this Duniverse. So the Landsraad and the Emperor keep each other in check, as it were. Meanwhile, the Bene Gesserit are working from the shadows, on both sides - they primarily are concerned with their own plans and devices, to create the Kwizatsh Haderach. They manipulate from the shadows and actually form the third great power in this universe, but seldom show it openly. They also exert power by political marriages, or become concubines for political advantages - which is why Jessica wasn't married to Leto, though it was done to benefit him and House Atreides, not herself or the Sisterhood. The fourth independent power, which is hardly touched upon in this first part of the movie, is CHOAM and the Spice Guild. They're like a huge mercantile power, and the Guild Navigators are the only ones able to move/teleport between planets, so without them, there would be no viable interstellar Imperium. Which make them essential and an enormous powerhouse as well - though, of course... they are and remain dependent on the Spice. That's why: whom controls Arrakis, controls the Empire. So the Emperor can't directly attack a Great House like Artreides, or he risks all-out war with the Landsraad, consisting of the other Great Houses. Instead, he uses an indirect attack, with and through the Harkonnens whom are doing the grunt work for him. They want their fiefplanet with all the Spice back and already have a centuries-old feud with the Atreides, so they're easily prodded into action. It's a sort of semi-proxy war, thus. He does help the Harkonnen to make sure they'll win - hence why he sends a few battalions of Sardaukar, his elite troops. But no-one (especially not the Landsraad) may know about that. (That's also why they killed Liet, because she was going to expose the Emperor's meddling). Now...as far as the melee fights and old/new tech are concerned, it's important to realize that in the Duniverse, while there is very high-tech at CERTAIN aspects, others are low tech (which gives the retro-feeling of the movie) but with a reason. It may seem strange at first sight, but note, however, that this has an in-story explanation, namely: thousands of years ago, there was a rebellion against "thinking machines" (AI) called the Butlerian Jihad. Humanity won (barely), but since that time there is a very strong taboo on creating anything resembling robots or AI, and humanity started to develop their own powers (aided by the melange/spice), such as Mentats (basically human supercomputers). This is the reason you don't see any highly developed robots, AI or even computers in this world. This mix of old and new tech is a defining, historically explained element of the Duniverse; it's part of the worldbuilding and lore. Now, specifically about the melee combat: maybe you missed it, but they explained the shields in that fighting scene; they said "the slow sword can penetrate it". This is a hint that ALL objects with high kinetic energy are stopped dead in their tracks when hitting the shield, but SLOW objects can penetrate it. Meaning: ALL of our "modern" warfare weapons would largely become obsolete: machineguns and all fast moving shells/bullets etc. become useless, but swords and knifes that are SLOWLY moved can still reach a target through the shields. Making the use of swords and knifes, after thousands of years, the dominant way of fighting once again. It's actually a cool twist. Hope that made things more clear!
Also, to add the time in which the story play. In the begin of the movie they show, it's the year 10191, but this is not 10191 AD, it's 10191 AG. Means the story play 10191 years after the founding of the spacing guild. The spacing guild was founded after the Butlerian Jihad. Approx 12000 year AD. Though not sure if it is 12000 AD, or 12000 years after our current time. So, either 12000 or 14000 AD. Means the story happens 22000 to 24000 years in the future.
@@lisanalgaib555 That is correct. AG (After Guild), and BG (Before Guild) are the iterations used and the lore gives some indication as how that relates to our AD (Anno Domini). The most precise date - with a high level of accuracy - is that the first Dune novel which is set in 10,191 AG, corresponds approximately to 23,148 AD. It is mentioned the "space age" takes place in 11,000 BG, and assuming this would mean it began in 1957 AD as this is when the first satellite, Sputnik, was launched, we can rebuild the whole timeline to our AD. So if you add the year 11,000 BG to 10,191 AG you’re left with a time span of 21,191 years. So if you add 21,191 years to 1957 AD, you’re left with 23,148 AD as the most likely date. Quite some time! Most casual watchers of the movie think it's 10000 years in the future, but it's actually more than twice as much.
49:00 the reason why they don't use firearms is because of the shields The shields repel every fast moving projectile That's why in the movie the character played by Brolin said:"The slow blade penetrates the shield" Only if you use blades can you control the speed at which you thrust into the shield, it takes alot of practice
@heinrichkramer8059 Villeneuve prioritised cool visuals over lore in a few cases, safe to assume laser vs shield does not cause a nuke in his version of the universe.
The theatre experience of this movie is exeptional ... I get it, if you want to save the second movie for the reaction, but daaaang... If you EVER get a chance to see this one in theatres, DO IT! -The soundscape is amazing!! The floor was vibrating from the bass notes! Also the sheet size of everything from the ships to the worms... Is so much more ... Well...MORE... On the big screen.
Agree, shook me to the core... I imagine it's comparable to what ppl felt when they first saw Jurassic Park back in 93! Big sound, big scale, big adventure...
I just watched a scene comparison between imax (1.43:1) and widescreen, and this movie was butchered to make it widescreen. All of the spaces are bigger and more beautiful in fullscreen. There's details to give a sense of scale that are completely missing from widescreen. So watch part 2 in imax if you can!
this movie was so much better in cinema then when i watch it now at home it doesnt have words this movie based all his POWER on visual and audio masterclass and a cinema just exceeds at that
Agreed. I watched it in the cinema with my boyfriend and it was gorgeous. My boyfriend wasn't as invested as he didn't read Dune but he still could very much appreciate the cinematography, CGI and soundtrack.
The Oak mentioned loving how sci-fi imagines various aspects of the future, including costuming. Something I really liked about this film is that most of the costumes seem to look backward, rather than into the future (space suits, stillsuits and armour excluded). This is because of Jacqueline West, one of the costume designers. She usually does period pieces and when asked to work on Dune initially refused because she’d never worked on science fiction before. The response was that that was exactly why they asked her. This is a civilisation that is so far into the future that it has looped back around in a sense. So she drew on a lot of fashion from renaissance-era nobility, the medieval middle-east, as well as religious orders like the Vatican and convents for inspiration. Just an interesting little fact that I really enjoyed about this movie!
Sadly, noone in comments talks about director of the movie. Danny Villeneuve. This guy is incredible. After watching his Bladerunner 2049 I watched all his movies, and they all are freaking awesome.
I don't think it's fair to say Dune "did it better", Star Wars takes itself much less seriously than Dune. Star Wars is an over-the-top space opera, Dune has a lot more deep lore and worldbuilding. It's like comparing Lord of the Rings to A Song of Ice and Fire
@@pabloc8808 Well, Dune definitely did the "desert planet" concept better than Star Wars. Frank Herbert actually took great care in justifying why Arrakis is a desert and how its ecology works. Meanwhile, Tatooine is a desert planet because that's what Dune did, but- at least in the movies- you don't see that same care and attention put into the world building.
@@ninakrishnamurthy6674 Yeah because Star Wars is a space opera. It's built upon the very phrase "it's not that deep, bro", so much that when they tried to expand the universe and explain shit it started falling apart, because it was never meant to be deep it was just supposed to look cool, which is fine if that's what you're going for.
@@pabloc8808 Oh I agree with you. Don’t get me wrong; I LOVE the original Star Wars trilogy. But I also love solid world building, and I’ve always disliked the “single biome planet” trope. So when I read Dune in anticipation for the 2021 film, I was surprised by how “real” Arrakis felt to me. That being said, comparing Dune to Star Wars is very much an apples to oranges comparison.
@@ninakrishnamurthy6674Yeah, but I agree with you on Dune's worldbuilding being great. Does it make sense scientifically speaking? Idk, it's an alien planet, science doesn't apply. The interesting part, for me, isn't the explanation of why Arrakis is a desert. What I like is that it is a key point in the political dispute and the entire construction of the universe, makes it much more compelling than just "oh it's a desert because we needed an inhospitable planet for the story to be cool"
I'm so glad you guys did this one! I read the first 3 books when I was 10 and they had a radical impact on me. I memorized the Litany Against Fear (the words Jessica said while Paul was being tested) and use it to this day to help with anxiety or any fear inducing situation.
When you were 10?! I was reading Percy Jackson and Rangers Apprentice when I was 10, reading Dune that young would have been to much for my mind to handle. I'm currently rereading the second book before I move on to the third. Favorite reads in a while.
I sadly did not even know Dune existed when I was 10, I was heavily into H. G. Wells and Jules Verne back then. Wasn't until early high school that I first read Dune and the five sequels.
We have the same life lol my Dad was really into scifi and thrillers and I was reading these at 9, 10 and got into Harry Potter at university instead 😂😂 I also have the litany against fear memorized and my therapist even worked it into my CBT
This is not just one of the best science fiction films of all time, it's one of the best films of all time. It's gorgeous to look at. The music is otherworldly. The acting is top notch.
I loved the fact that they added the shot where the worm recognized Paul. Can’t wait for part two. Excellent adaptation of the book so far. I hope he makes films of the other books in the series.
Paul recognized the worm earlier in the movie, too--when he says, "I recognize your footsteps, old man," it's a double meaning--Gurney is coming up behind him, but...the sandworm isn't just known as Shai-Hulud, it's also known as "the old man of the desert". Lots of double meanings like that in the book, too.
@@beefish00 Of course it wasn't completely accurate. The 'weirding modules', the Water of Life scene, and the rain at the end were pure bullshit, not to mention the stillsuits not working as described in the novel. But at least Lynch understood the characters of Chani and Liet-Kynes and that one's father isn't a woman and that women would not hold the position in either the Imperium or among the Fremen that Villeneuve's version did.
Holy shit. Paul’s reaction to the dreams. The fear in his voice, he begins to cry in pain. Was bringing me to tears. Then lashing out at his Mother and discovering the truth about him, was so explosive. Had me jumping the first time seeing this. Paul’s anger was 100% 🔥🔥. I watched DUNE on HBO 4 weeks ago. Epic. Epic. An incredible cast, Timothee Chalamet knows how to carry a sci-fi story with great perfection. The music score.stunning. BTW: I knew there was going to be a Tom Holland joke, from you guys. Haha.
The novel by Frank Herbert sold nearly 20 million copies and changed science fiction forever, influencing everything from Star Wars to Game of Thrones. I read it as a teenager and it quickly became one of my favorite books ever. Which is why it was so emotional for me and many Dune fans to see how brilliantly Villeneuve and this amazing cast and crew interpreted it for the big screen.Breathtaking immersive filmmaking. Cannot wait for Part 2.
I'm glad you guys liked the movie. Compared to the book, the movie is just the tip of the iceberg. The book is really dense with world building and background material that makes the main story so rich.
Couple of things: 1) Kudos for picking up a lot of the "show, don't tell" moments (Such as putting together what Kynes was doing when she called the worm before her death) and asking some very good questions about how this world works (Do the worms eat the spice?). For those of us who love the books, there was so much included that isn't explicitly pointed out. I won't answer all of your questions, as the next two movies should address them. But... 2) Since it isn't exactly a spoiler, I will say that the Fremen cut themselves with their crysknives because, with specific exceptions, blood MUST be drawn if the knives are drawn. The Dune fandom waited a long time to see if this was going to be good and damn did Villeneuve deliver. Is it a perfect adaptation? No. Is it leagues better than the Lynch version? YEP. Personally, I'm hoping that the next two movies are received well enough for them to adapt the third and fourth books. Things get interesting and weird, even by Dune standards.
The movie was amazing. I've read the books many times over and a few things that disappointed me a little was 1) the dinner party scene was left out. 2) I wish there would have been more dialogue between the Barron and his mentat. 3) I wish he would have shown the conflict between Thufir and lady Jessica. We can't always get what we want but even without that the movie was amazing I can't wait for part 2
@@darkstar3116 If he died on Arrakis, he doesn't have a grave. They would have put his body through the deathstill and added his water to their cisterns.
So something that is not touched on in the movies but important about the crysknives that the Freman carry is that if you draw the knife you must draw blood to honor Shai Hulud before sheathing the blade again. So when they all cut the top of their wrists that is the reason why.
Interestingly, Villeneuve missed this out (where Jessica meets Mapes). However, Lynch shot it & it can now be seen in Spice Divers excellent Dune: Redux fan edit.
Yes it's true what you said about "not re-sheathing the knife without drawing blood", I don't think that's the reason they all cut their arms this time, Stilgar had just put Paul/Jessica under his protection and to me it looked more like they were sort of swearing a "blood oath" to respect his protection as their leader, I can't remember if it's shown, but I bet Jamis would not have cut his arm.
@@TSZatoichi By making it a rule to never sheath an unbloodied knife you are making people think twice before drawing it, because once it is drawn the course of action is now set, someone will die. In that specific instantance with Mapes and Jessica, it was more verbal sparing. Mapes was testing Jessica's limits/prowess and Jessica responded with knowledge of Fremen custom, showing that she understood Mapes was insulting her and implied that thoes insults were akin to Mapes drawing her knife against Jessica. To save face and preserve honor, but simultaneously test if Jessica is cruel like the Harkonnen, Mapes offers her life to Jessica who shows mercy while allowing Mapes to maintain her dignity. I seem to recall a Fremen cutting their own thumb with a Crysknife before sheathing it in a later novel, as part of a ritual (might have been god emperor)
@@TSZatoichi probably the interpretation in this context since again it wasn’t explained about the crysknife. But if I remember from the book, and it’s been a while, when Jessica attacks Stilgar to show her “weirding ways” quite a few people drew their knives by instinct and then drew blood before putting it away. But I may be conflating two scenes into one
They will most likely explain it in the 2nd movie, but the way worm-riding works, basically, is by pulling up select scales of the worm, exposing its more delicate flesh to the sand, which makes it not want to dive in. By changing the lifted plates slightly, you can kinda control the direction it goes.
watching this movie i was like "wait this sounds and looks like warhammer" and from that day on i realized pretty much everything sci-fi had its roots in dune
I first read this book when I was 14. It is unparalleled science fiction. My absolute favorite. And Denis Vileneuve hit it out of the park with this one. Amazing.
can't wait for Dune Part 2 in Oct/November2023 and its gonna be insane and more action I tell ya.. you guys really are fortunate with this adaptation. easy to digest to an already challenging source material. readers of DUNE took many re-reads in order to get the story. so much details in it.
I’ve seen some of the concept art & sets for what will be Caladan & it’s looking amazing. They’ve been shooting scenes for Caladan out in Italy & have increased the number of sound stages being used in Hungary. I really really hope we get Dune Messiah!!!!
@@dudermcdudeface3674 all the additional cast announcements have been amazing; really excited to see what Walken & Austin Butler bring to their respective roles.
@@davidanderson1639 That wasn't Caladan. Caladan is never visited again. That was the Emperor's homeworld Kaitain. Yes the circular window looks like the Atreides castle, but the overall architecture is radically different, and Italy is not Norway which is where Caladan was filmed.
@@pseudonymousbeing987 That’s right, I stand corrected there. The scene for Kaitain have been filmed at the Brion Tomb near Altivole. Schoolboy error on my part; even more so seeing as I’ve read Dune countless times 🤦🏻♂️
The way they story deals with the taking of human life is something every writer should think on. "is he just toying with him?" "No. He has never killed a man." Paul's first kill is what we want as an audience, but still churns the stomach.
You might want that, but for me it's rather boring. I'm not a fan of passive protagonists the faster the protagonist can start becoming active the better.
it’s not bc he never killed anyone, it’s bc he always fought with a shield so he slows down just before the blade hits which gives Jamis time to dodge.
@@yoda9256 It's both of these things, he appears to be toying with Jamis because of shield fighting, but he is also reluctant to kill him as he's never killed before and is a good lad at heart. Same reason Jessica shames him immediately after he wins the fight, she doesn't want him to feel good about taking life.
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For real, though… the novelty of the spitting custom is genuinely genius. A people so simple to us but with such a unique and perfectly fitted custom. It’s a microcosm of how civilizations interact. 😮❤
The whole idea is that Stillgar is offering some water to his hosts. In such a dry place, water is worth more than its weight in gold. A few drops, just to spit, is a real gesture.
Hans Zimmer did an amazing job with the music. Dude did not one, not two but three soundtracks for it. You have the original motion picture soundtrack that's for the film with almost all of the music heard in the film. Then the Sketchbook, which acts an experimental and demo-ish sounding version of the cues made for the film. Lastly, you have the Art and Soul of Dune, which is more or less more ambient and reverb/slowed down versions of the cues made for the film. Each of the soundtracks is unique and fantastic.
Saw Dune when it came out, and was honestly a bit confused by all the name dropping and pacing of it. Recently watched it again after having read the book, and what a difference it made.
So just in case it hasn’t been explained. In this universe, firearms as we know them are obsolete because of the personal shields. They stop anything fast moving. But to allow oxygen, they permit slow moving objects through. So a fighting technique developed around that, which is what you saw them practicing. So swords are the primary personal weapons. Also, they do have “laser guns” in this universe, but if those guns hit a shield, a very large explosion (think small nuke) can happen, so no one usually takes the chance of firing at a person with them.
BTW: Yes the worms 'feed' on Spice, they mutated because of it. Humans can too... the lore is pretty deep. And I believe the desert scenes were filmed in Jordan, next to Syria/Israel etc.
@@redmatador7595 No, the worms don't feed on the spice, the worms ARE the spice--they start as spores/micro-organisms that actually produce the spice at that stage of their life-forms. They go through more than one metamorphosis to develop into the massive sandworms.
@@rikk319 They create the spice in their micro organism form but they feed on it in their grown form, the microorganism also traps water deep underground to keep the environment arid, it's a self sustaining ecosystem relying on one life form, it's brilliant sci fi.
Even though I didn’t fall in love with this movie like a lot of others did (speaking as a dune fan), I stand by the opinion that this is one of the best made movies made in this generation. The kind of realism and aesthetic (the effort made to achieve those) is just unlike a lot of recent movies I’ve seen.
That’s a solid opinion. I’m kind of glad I didn’t read the books before seeing this movie. But I will read them after the 2nd part and I will def appreciate the books more after immersing myself in the visual feast that Denis created with his team.
omgggg how did i just see this, I've literally been binging your content for the past month. Saw you guys react to HoTD, Harry Potter, the LOTR saga, and was watching you guys watch these and was like?? How have they not watched Dune?? and BAM it's here!! I can't wait till we all watch the 2nd one in 2023
The reason they fight with knives is that personal shields made firearms obsolete. The other thing to know is that if a lasgun hits a shield it causes an explosion the size of a nuke. Finally the future predicting quality of the spice allows the guild navigators to avoid crashing the guild ships when traveling faster than light.
Two things. There is a (or rather 2) miniseries in this Universe. The first one is Dune (frome 2000), and the 2nd one is Children of Dune (2003). Not perfect, but much better than the 80:s movie. And it moves farther than the movie. Though the 80:s movie is so bad and hilarious that I just love it. The 2nd thing is that George Lucas was inspired by these books when he came up with Star Wars. OK. There's 3 things, not 2. 3rd is that Frank Herbert made a commentary on story tropes (like "The Hero Journey") and on human nature. His most known quote is this: “I wrote the Dune series because I had this idea that charismatic leaders ought to come with a warning label on their forehead: "May be dangerous to your health." One of the most dangerous presidents we had in this century was John Kennedy because people said "Yes Sir Mr. Charismatic Leader what do we do next?" and we wound up in Vietnam. And I think probably the most valuable president of this century was Richard Nixon. Because he taught us to distrust government and he did it by example.”
My personal feeling is that "Dune" just reset the bar for sci-fi movies. Everything about this is so clean and amazing looking. Can't wait to see the 2nd one next week!
The thing that makes Dune interesting from a Sci Fi perspective is that they are 10,00 years in the future but have to fight like they are in the dark ages. The shields were not for practice. The personal body shield was standard issue for all fighters of the great houses. There are also laser guns called laseguns. The problem with the technology is that if a lasegun hits an active shield even a small personal one then you get an atomic explosion. That is why they have returned to essentially sword fighting so far in the future. All fighters train in shield combat where you have to kill with a slow motion of the blade, as anything moving too fast the shield will deflect. There is an almost dancelike way in which you position your opponent so as to strike the killing blow.
I really liked how all these recognizable sci-fi elements were presented in almost a religious sort of way, like those astronaut-esque costumes looking like ceremonial garb and the Bene Gesserit spaceship coming and going in lights and fog like some sort of divine cosmic being... The cool/scary scifi creature sandworms being regarded by the planet's culture as sacred, almost like a deity... It's just a really cool way to view all these things that would usually be presented as futuristic/high-tech/wacky science, especially at the time the novels were published.
1st time I was watching this, I was so confused. Just noticed it’s something really big and special, so I did a lot of research and when I get all of the context. My mind is blowing. This movie and Frank Herbert are genius!
Dune books were amazing, cannot get better info on houses than the book..... highly recommend reading or listening to audiobook. However tis movie version so far is doing very well. Feels real as well, villenueve did an amazing job on this.
Personal shields block most ballistic weapons. Lasguns (laser weapons) violently interact with shields, causing an explosion that would typically kill bother the attacker and target. That's why there's so much dependence on blades and hand-to-hand fighting. It's the only effective way of getting through a shield because one can learn to slow a strike as it impacts the shield's energy field, allowing it to penetrate.
The shields stop all fast moving projectiles… but swords can be skillfully used to slowly move through the shield. Also Allows them breathe by letting air passively move through it.
The fashion in this is soooo incredible! The way they took inspiration from Middle Eastern burqas but adapted it to make it more modern is beautiful. I plan on making something similar to that to wear to the cinemas when Part 2 comes out, just like Zendaya did for all of the red carpets she did for this movie (except she didn't sew anything, obviously lol)
The Gom Jabbar scene is actually the first thing that happens in the book. The box is supposed to pull at the nerves in his hand and because all the nerves in the body are connected, it extra hurts. So if he can't deal with that he is unworthy, per the Bene Gessert. As the son of Jessica, he is a Bene Gesserit, but also the son of Duke and the grandson of Baron Harkonnen (as he is Jessica's biological father) he is also eventually married to Princess Irulan who is the granddaughter of the Emperor they mention in this movie. Also, as he was born a generation before he was supposed to he is looked at with disdain by the Bene Gesserit. He is however, the Kwasitz Hederach, and eventually seen as the prophet for the Fremen, the Mua'Dib. In other words, it's a lot of pressure for a 15 year old.
As a scifi fan, I LOVED DUNE. It's told so well and the film is just beautiful. The scifi aspects blend seamlessly with the natural elements. To me this movie is perfection. I can't wait for the second/third parts.
The depth of this story is incredible, and notoriously difficult to adapt to film. Denis V. is doing an INCREDIBLE job w these. Easily the best reaction I've seen yet. Cheers all!
Sandworm riding: basically when you stick those hooks in the sandworm's thick outer skin and pull, an inner part of the worm that is more sensitive is exposed. So the worm refuses to dive, to not hurt the inner exposed part with sand, and rides the surface. You can also steer the worm like that.
I saw this alone, on a weekday, late at night in an empty theater towards the end of its cinema run. I felt like I was having a religious experience. 😂
I've probably read the first book a dozen times and it never ceases to amaze me the world that Herbert created, reading that in 1965 would have blown peoples minds.
Part 2 is coming out March 1, 2024. And Denis Villeneuve is actually working on "Dune: Messiah" scenario, the final part of Paul's story arc (but not the final Dune story :))
The book is over 700 pages if I recall correctly. You're correct in that the first movie did develop a cult following. However, its big problem is it rushes through the story even though it's 2.5 hrs long. That being said it does have some great production design though some of the effects don't hold up so well.
So the reason they don’t use laser guns is actually really explained well in the book. If a person is wearing a shield and a laser is fired at it, there is an explosive atomic reaction. And the use of atomic weapons in banned in the galactic empire. This means hand to hand, knife and sword based combat is how everyone fights. Also the shield have a flaw where slow moving weapons can penetrate them.
there is zero wasted dialogue or shot in this entire movie, every line, every camera pan, every cut is used to tell us something about this universe, you cannot zone out when watching it cos you will miss something important
riding a sandworm takes hooks you work under the spot where two segments meet. this allows sand to get in there & be an irritant, keeping the worm from sliding back under the sand & letting others climb up after them.
I know this videos old, but at 11:40 the lack of firearms is mentioned, they do actually exist most commonly in the form of lasguns, which are basically supermans heat vision, in the books we see a lasrifle used and it cuts an entire football fields worth of trees down and vaporizes every person in the forest almost instantly. Ofcourse you probably know by now that shield + lasgun = nuclear explosion though
To give you some back story into the Dune universe / saga; a story that spans 35’000 years, it’s good to know that dates are know as BG (Before Guild) & AG (After Guild). The Guild monopoly on space travel / transport and upon interstellar banking is taken as the beginning point of the Imperial Calendar. Interestingly, the events of Dune when set to our current Earth years, take place 20’000 years into our future; so technically we are part of the Dune story. A little timeline for the Dune universe. 19000-16000BG - Earliest civilisations on Terra (Earth) 16500BG - The Roman Empire 14100BG - 13600BG - Our Solar System is colonised. 13402BG - An asteroid hits Terra making it uninhabitable. 13402BG - 13399BG - The Rescue of Treasures off Terra. 13360BG - Terra is reseeded & set aside as a natural park under Imperial Decree. 200-108BG - The Butlerian Jihad. the crusade to free humans from thinking machines. 86BG - Foundation of House Atreides. O - Foundation of The Guild. 10140AG - Duke Leto is born 10190-10191 - House Atreides moves to Arrakis. I saw Dune in IMAX on release day & it just begs to be seen on a huge screen. This really is the adaptation that fans of the novel; like myself, have been wanting for so long. It wasn’t rushed & forced to cram the story in to a short run time like the Lynch version; it was given the space to breathe. Also the vastness of the worlds were also allowed that space. Not for a long time; probably since Blade Runner 2049, or seeing LOTR in a theatre have repeatedly let out sighs of relief….& smiled so much at how amazing a film has been. From a design point of view (as I have a degree in film design), the worlds are spectacular. From the Grecian influence on Caladan, to the brutalist buildings of Arrakeen were epic. The size of the Guild Highliners is incredible….& seeing Salusa Secundus was just the icing on the cake. Can’t wait to see more of Shai Hulud!! Casting was spot on; just wish we’d been given more of Piter De Vries!! Rebecca Ferguson was excellent as Jessica & the regendering of Liet Kynes didn’t even bother me. The Baron is truly terrifying; not some pantomime villain as we saw in the Lynch version. In Part 2 (which will deal with the second part of the novel & then if we’re really lucky a third film, based on Dune Messiah) we’ll get to see Zendeya’s Chani be given the chance to really develop. Also, we’re yet to see the terrifying Feyd Rautha; Austin Butler has been cast in the role, along with Christopher Walken as Emperor Shaddam IV. 10/10 & an absolute must see in the theatres!!! Also, a few little things of interest: The Kangaroo Mouse, Maud’Dib will have special significance in Part 2 Paul’s line ‘I recognise your footsteps old man’ are him alluding to Shai Hulud. The worms have many names; many given to them by the Fremen. These including Old Man of The Desert, Old Man Eternity & Grandfather of The Desert. In Arabic Shayʾ-Khulud translates as "Thing of Eternity" or "Thing of Immortality", consisting of Shayʾ "thing of" (in construct state) and Khulud "eternity" or "immortality".
When Stilgar said, you may not challenge a Sayyadina... He was referring to her being a Bene Gesserit Initate, that she hadn't become a reverend mother yet.. They knew she was one when he said 'a weirding woman', AND a fighter. Using the word Weird is clever, and not Wield( since they were fighting with knives in the moment) I love the subtle details :D
Regarding the riding of the sandworms, the book describes how the hooks used by the Fremen are used to pry apart the worm's scales. That exposes the softer tissue and a worm will not dive into the sand because it irritates those tissues. That's how the Fremen can more safely ride them even though it's still dangerous stuff.
That’s really cool. Frank really thought of everything! I’m going to read the books after the 2nd part is here. I started with the movie so I’m going to finish with the movie and then compare notes. I think I’ll appreciate the books more if I do this since I’m in love with the first film.
I read Part 1 just before watching the movie. I already knew it was a huge order, that 2 great producers had failed before (well, the previous one has some redeeming qualities). But, Denis Villeneuve has done it before (taking up a challenge by doing the sequel to Blade Runner), so I had faith. If you knew how much details are in those books, which has the reputation to be the best sci-fi piece of literature of all time, you would be even more impressed by what Denis Villeneuve did. I mean, with not a lot of talking, he was able to explain the world and its moving parts perfectly. And the cinematography, the music, wow wow wow. It's a masterpiece that will age very well. The bar for sci-fi movies has just been pushed higher.
I remember going to the theaters and watching the 1984 version of Dune when I was a teenager. We received literature about the movie while we were there. It helped us to know what was going on and who the enemies were. A young Patrick Stewart, Jean-Luc Picard of Star Trek: The Next Generation, played Gurney Halleck.
The Politics of Dune:... House Atreides is related to the Imperial House (House Corrino). The Atreides are really well liked among the noble houses and the emperor is jealous/fears usurpation. The emperor plots with House Harkonnen to take Arrakis/Dune from them and give it to the Atreides. It's a poisonous gift. This takes the Atreides out of a position of strength in Caladan and makes them vulnerable in a new world they don't fully control. The Harkonnen and the Atreides are in a feud between the families. If they come into conflict no other noble house can intervene. The Harkonnen use this feud as justification to attack and kill the Atreides and take back Arrakis/Dune. The emperor supports the Harkonnen with his imperial troops, the Sardaukar. This is done in absolute secret. If the other noble houses were to learn about it they would unite together against the Harkonnen and the Imperial House (House Corrino). This way, the Emperor takes out the Atreides without a full-on galactic war, with the purge disguised as a feud between two Houses. Of course, a prophecy is gonna mess with everything.... By having Paul, Jessica may have derailed the plans of the Bene Gesserit. This is something the Bene Gesserit have little tolerance for. (This is the kind of movie/story that, if you don't pay attention to the dialogue, you will miss a lot. Every line of dialogue has a purpose. Miss one line, there is a good chance will be lost.)
15:18 - The reason Stilgar spits is because that's the upmost form of respect in their culture/place. Imagine being in a complete desert planet, water/moisture is very sacred, having someone spit is saying their completely fine losing that vital source of life for you.
I first saw Dune in 2000. Frank Herbert's Dune was a miniseries made at the time. There is also a sequel miniseries called The Children of Dune. Then, in a college film class, I saw the 1984 movie adaptation. I love the miniseries. Of course the CGI is old and TV budget level, but the story and acting was incredible to me. I was already a Star Wars and Star Trek fan so it was another great Sci-fi universe to explore. This new adaptation is visually stunning with great CGI and costuming but that's all for me. I'd rather rewatch the miniseries.
One of the things about Dune, is that shield technology reflects rapid kinetic forces. So bullets and quick blade motions are blocked. But slow blades and projectiles can move through the shield. They filmed in Jordan.
for the ending and the riding of the worm, you put the hook into the side of the worm, it senses part of body is hurt and the worm will rotate so that part is away from random sand getting in the "wound" as long as you stay near that area the worm will think it is still wounded and not submerge under the sand out of fear of infection.
The worm riders use the hooks to pull out one of the outer rings of the worm armor. To protect itsself from the sand, the worm rolls that vulnernle area to the top (and it also wont submerge). The rider plans his feet and rolls up the worm to the top. The story takes place 10,000 years from the Butlerian jihad (the wars against thinking machines), which was itself 10,000 years from today. So it is *20,000* years in the future.
To answer a few of your questions and expand on a few scenes in the movie with context from the book. This movie is not a remake of the Lynch version from 1984, it is a new adaptation. Many people notice a very big Star Wars vibe within the story. This book was a huge influence on George Lucas and he has openly stated in interviews to borrowing heavily from DUNE when writing Star Wars. This adaptation is much more faithful to the source material but even so is still missing some pretty big things from the book. A quick explanation of the universe. It states that the year is 10191. In fact it’s more like 22000 and humanity has survived a war with A.I., left Earth in the distant past and spread out across the galaxy. Interstellar travel is possible but extremely dangerous without the use of spice and Spacing guild navigators. With so much distance between worlds, people have evolved into extreme, versions of humanity. There are many factions and organizations in the known universe. The emperor and House Corrino, The Landsraad ( a sort of congress made of all the noble houses)The CHOAM company (sort of like OPEC), the Spacing Guild and the Benne Geseritt (kind of like morally ambiguous female Jedi), the Fremen ( natives of Arrakis), Sardukarr ( Imperial terror troops) and many more. Computers and A.I. are outlawed so humanity has focused on extreme training of the human body and brain. Mentat’s are basically living computers. Thufur Hawatt is a Mentat. There was a discovery called the “Holtzman effect” that allows humans to manipulate matter on a quantum level and allows for the Holtzman drive that allows for the folding of space, levitation and large and small scale energy shields. The reason there are very few firearms is that the shields deflect fast moving objects so conventional firearms are useless. Slower moving weapons like blades or darts can be made to penetrate the shields but require intense training to use. If you haven’t read the first book, DUNE, I highly recommend it. The worlds, characters, plots and sub plots are intricate and amazing. I can’t really describe my excitement to finally see a good adaptation on the big screen. Part 2 will be even better!
I'm rewatching this reaction to watch your reaction to Dune 2. Both movies are masterpieces. This first movie is kinda hard to follow if you never read the books, it's one of those movies that you want to watch again both to see again and to understand better, and it hooks you so well! I remember watching it 3 times.
I grew up with the 1984 version which was so different for it's time many had issues understanding it. There were even small reference booklets made up so movie goers could look up words, etc. to keep up. I was pleased when the extended version was released and when I finally started watching this version, the story beats were the same but everything felt slower and sadly, the same as every other 'epic' movie made in the last several years. I'm happy it's accessible to modern audiences as long as they don't muck up part 2.
Shields stop fast moving objects. Hence the lack of projectile weapons. And firing a laser at a shield results in an explosion of random yield wiping both parties ranging from a moderate blast to a nuclear explosion. Thus most fighting is restricted to blades.
I’m a big Star Wars fan and I know that this story was the inspiration for those movies and wow this was incredible to watch, reminds me of when Avatar came out a decade ago, amazing visuals and encapsulating story can’t wait for part 2!
I saw the '84 movie while I was on a bus, on a VHS tape being played on the displays in the bus. I could hardly the conversations. After that trip, I eventually found the second part of the book, which starts from about the time that Paul and Jessica free themselves from the Harkonnen ornithopter. Much later, I was able to find the first part and read that too, then read the second book, then played Dune II, the first proper RTS game, and then I couldn't finish the third book, as hard as I tried. I read about the other books on Wikipedia. There was a time when C&C was referred to as "Dune 3", that's how popular Dune II was as a game. What an incredible trip.
DUNE part two just came out. Can’t wait to see your reaction!!! Good for you for waiting… I will be waiting for your reaction!!! You won’t be disappointed!! Your feelings about part two are spot on!
This is one of my top favorite films now, so I'm happy to see you guys reacting to it! The announcement of this film made me give the book another chance, for the first time I tried reading it i was in college and therefore very distracted. I read the first half of the book before seeing the film, then read the rest afterwards. And so when I watched it at my friend's place on his HBO Max, I was geeking out! I also adored Arrival and Bladerunner 2049 so Denis V's style and directing was really enjoyable here for the world of Dune. I think he nailed the vibe of the book perfectly.
Part 2 is going to be much more exciting and this movie is a good foundation for what's to come. I hope the next movie has more about the Bene Gesserit in it. They're fascinating and there's a lot to know about them.
Well then you will like this. An upcoming TV show for HBOmax. Dune: The Sisterhood TV series. This series may be based on the novel Sisterhood of Dune, by Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson. A prequel to the original Dune, it is the first of the Great Schools of Dune trilogy, and tells how the Sisterhood of Rossack evolved into the Bene Geserit.....
@@candidob8683 I think Brian Herbert's and Kevin J. Anderson's books are more easily adapted for the screen since they're mostly just straight forward stories where as Frank Herbert's Dune books have a lot more exposition and philosophy. As for the show, I wish they'd get in gear and do it already.
@@angelagraves865 They were written with this in mind, no doubt. They're more action-oriented, and much less complex. In short, they're great for fans who don't like to think too much. They're McDonalds for the mind, rather than the gourmet feast of Frank's books, that nourish the mind in profound ways.
Duncan, the MVP for sure! That tradition they do where they touch their blade to their forehead before fighting, I don't know what it is but it just feels so cool. I can't wait for more!
Jessica, Paul’s mom was Duke Leto’s Bound Concubine. He even says to her, before the deadly attack, that He (Duke Leto) should have married her. The Barron Yells at Leto, Your son is dead, your concubine is dead” right before Leto breathes out the poison. Duke Leto never married. Jessica was presented to Duke Leto by the Bene Geserit Order years before. Paul is 15 years old in this movie. The Bene Geserit Order commanded Jessica to only bear daughters to her Duke as his bound concubine. Jessica fell in love with her husband-master and he wanted a son. Jessica gave birth to Paul, defying her Bene Geserit Orders, because she loved her husband-master Duke Leto. Paul has abilities because of Jessica’s choice to give Duke Leto a son. The fact that Jessica is/was a concubine is important to understanding Dune. Pay attention to anyone who is, or becomes a concubine as the story progresses.
The background lore for Dune is incredibly detailed. For instance, the reason you can ride a sandworm is because they have scales all over their bodies that among other things keep sand out. If something prevents the scales from closing tight, they won't dive beneath the sand to avoid getting sand in there until it can dislodge the irritant. The Fremen use this fact and lodge something in there to prevent the worm from diving beneath the sand and then use them to travel. Some more fun facts, the worms start life as sandtrout that come together and fuse into an amalgamation that then evolves into a sandworm. The spice is actually created by the worms or rather, the sandtrout. Arrakis was once a planet with plenty of water (there is actually still alot of water, just not a lot of surface water) and the sandworms are super allergic to water. Their earlier development stage, the sandtrout, can survive limited exposure to water and will flock to water and encapsulate it as they multiply until the environment becomes almost free of water. At this stage they can come together to form the huge sandworms. The sandtrout excrement, when exposed to water, will form a pre-spice mass that will produce gasses that causes explosions of spice (or Melange as it's also known) on the surface.
DUNE was actually published in 1965. It inspired George Lucas and Star Wars and most modern Sci-Fi.
And game of thrones
@@fabiosilva9637 Yeah, I got that from the royal houses and politics
>>and most modern Sci-Fi. err no. Plenty of scifi before dune (long before dune) Most "modern" scifi ahs not been inluenced by dubne AT ALL
@@Goblin_Hunter87 By your idiotic logic Frank Hurbert ripped off the entire conflict in the middle east.
@@Goblin_Hunter87 Similar stories in many aspects but both executed in very different ways. Both feel completely different.
As an Arab I was pleasantly surprised that a lot of Frank Herberts inspiration came from the resource and power struggle in the middle east and with arakkis and spice being Muslim countries with Oil, and this even extends into a lot of the words and fashion in the world. for example Lisan Al Ghaib, means Tongue of the Unkown (The Future) in Arabic. Even that little mouse creature is a real desert critter called a Jerboa, they are native to my country Kuwait!
Also quite cool that they actually filmed this in Jordan and Abu Dhabi!
That’s actually the one reason to why I was interested to read the books and now I’m nearly finished with the last book and safe to say it’s my favorite book saga
That’s actually really cool. I’ve feel like I’ve learnt a bit about arab culture through reading dune. It makes me want to learn more lol
The spice is a metaphor for heroin because it’s a mind altering substance
@@Jay-iu5bi yeah but its also a resource especially for the one who need it to use their powers
“I have no idea what just happened but that was pretty badass”.
Great summary of the movie 😂😂
Well said
Thats not the proof of à good movie. At all.
@@laurine____7543 he never said it is a proof to be a good movie
Herbert wrote Dune back in 1965. Folks talk a lot about how Dune reminds them of Tattooine, but actually, it's the other way around.
Couple of things that didn't get spoken in the movie which help with comprehension. (No spoiilers, history facts).
This is Earth's far distant future. We had a computer AI uprising and subsequent wars, and after humanity finally won, social rules became very strict - no thinking machines. That's why this is futuristic, but there are no computers. Everything is done by humans with special training. Bene Gesserit "magic" is special training in observation of micro-minutia, meditation, and self-mastery. (The "Voice" is just manipulating vocal cords to find the right frequency of compulsion).
Thufir Hawat and Piter, both with the black mark on their lower lips, one with House Atreides and one with House Harkonnen, are "Mentats" - humans with special mental training for higher math computations and memory tricks... that's why his eyes turned white/rolled back and he provided Duke Leto the calculations for how much money the imperial trip cost to Caladan. Mentats provide the computational services for leaders and powerful folks since the AI wars now forbid thinking machines.
There are generally no guns because of the widespread use of personal shields. Since bullets and traditional ammunition have no way to slow down at the end, their quick momentum gets blocked by the shields. The projectiles that hit the dart through Leto's shield and hit the grounded spaceships you'll note had two speeds - quick until they hit the shield, and then slow/burrowing speed to penetrate the shield. The invasion force also didn't drop the general bombs until all of the shield-based warships had been nullified by the special ammo.
So it's an interresting world in the future where interstellar travel is common, but there are no computers or AI units of any kind, humanity has extended their innate capacity in closed orders and training programs of various kinds, and since everyone has energy shields, bullets and guns are historical artifacts while swords and knives are once again the way we go to war. Herbert was a visionary, for certain.
And lasers and energy weapons, would activate the shields making them go atomic so its kinda banned.
@@theMyouknow yes, and that's why we only see the Harkonnen use a laser after the shields are down (when they try to hit Ducan in the ornithopter.
@@theMyouknow the shield would go atomic if hit by lasers? Like it would have a blast like from a nuclear bomb?
@@Legiox Well the shield would overload and explode like a nuke, so they stopped using energy weapons, and since normal weapons like we use today are useless they use swords instead.
@@theMyouknow If a Laser hits a Shield there is a feedback loop created that causes either the Shield or Laser or Both to go Nuclear.
I saw it in the theatre and it instantly entered my Top 3 favorite movies of all time!
For sure , I watched it at home , mason always loves the movies I love too haha , so it is always nice watching their reactions ! We have the same taste for sure
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Watching it in theaters was a crazy experience. I was so sad when it ended, didn't want to leave that world, it was exquisite.
I've been a psycho fan of the Dune books since my dad introduced them to me when I was a kid. When I first saw this version of the story, I literally cried... because I was so relieved they didn't fuck it up. Denis Villeneuve is my homeboy for life.
Edit: Also, "the slow blade penetrates the shield" is very good advice. I think of this often, along with the Litany Against Fear.
My first time watching, I didn't quite enjoy it, because I was so anxious it was going to be screwed up. Afterwards, I felt a lot of relief. Watched it a second time soon after, and enjoyed it a lot more because I wasn't worried anymore.
Villeneuve is a big fan of the books
This is probably one of the most difficult books to turn into a movie. The fact that they produced what they did is quite an accomplishment. I wish Jessica was a little stronger in the movie...she was a little too anxious in some scenes but other than that I can't complain. I think the fact that I've read the book several times helped.
They have to somehow get all the internal dialogues out onto the screen somehow. Showing some emotion on her face reflects the internal fears she's dealing with.
Considering how much internal monologue and exposition the book has, we have to forgive them for taking some shortcuts to convey emotions.
The other thing, besides showing emotional internal dialogue, is notice she never is emotional like that in front of anyone. She composes before being 'in public'.
Actually the TV Series in the 2000s got Jessica way better, it is my main "complaint" with this dramatization.
@christiansaenscheidt9056 I was just about to comment that the story is almost tailor made for a multi-season television series, rather than movies. I had no idea they already made one.
I've been waiting for this reaction! Love it, guys!
Just one clarifying comment:
There's no firearms because laser weapons interact with the shields and cause entirely unpredictable reactions up to nuclear explosions. As for mechanical firearms, shields make them ineffective. You do see the Harkonnen's use laser weapons in their assault, but that's an outrageous and risky move that violates this universe's version of the Geneva convention. As soon as shields were invented, everybody basically went back to sword fighting
Better put that I tried to do.
It doesn't violate the Great Convention. The Holtzman effect when a laser crosses a shield, while does damage equivalent to a nuke, is not against the Convention. Only actual atomic weapons are, presumably because of the radiation damage dealt to those outside the actual blast radius, and the corruption of everything left behind.
Also, shields protect you from slug-firing weapons like our modern day hand guns and rifles, so those are rarely use in the Imperium.
It's interesting how it's sort of used in a metaphorical way, to "kill" someone it needs to get close to the other person. And if it's done from far away it brings destruction to both, causing the death of someone else is like causing the death of itself. From far away is utter destruction, and from close quarters gives the impact of being close, it turns the fight much more personal, much more important.
Yes, Lasguns shooting at a shield causes a nuclear explosion which can happen either at the target or at the source of the gun or bot, so its very risky shooting a laser at a shield. If I remember correctly in the book Duncan shoots his lasgun at the main shieldwall of the city in desperation and he was lucky enough it only exploded at the shield and not his location as well.
The Answer's shocked and disappointed 'Oh No!' when the movie finished summed it up perfectly. From going in blind to total investment is real testament to the quality of the movie. Glad you enjoyed the experience. I'd love to see react to David Lynch's Dune as well.
"I'm not following this plot." Ten minutes later, perfectly explains the plot. Great comeback.
There are eight books, and they just got halfway through the first one. So yeah, there's definite franchise potential here.
there’s only 6 Dune books
Hopefuly Villeneuve (the movie director) knows when to stop, because Herbert (the book writter) sure did not, things get pretty weird and eventually bad.
@@jotairpontes I liked it, God Emperor is peak Dune, shit gets wild and the universe gets really expanded. After that it gets very weird but I still enjoyed it. I think people hate on it because the series got popular due to the 1st novel being such a straightforward hero's journey, if you are unable to read between the lines. Then Herbert went wild with this world he created and made it extremely existential, he also went way more sci fi and philosophy than straightforward adventure. And as we know, people want more of the same, I personally am very happy that he created something timeless and provocative, and unique, instead of sticking with a formula and making something forgettable. It was the 1st book series I read that made me genuinely amazed and engaged with how fucking weird it got, it's special.
Glad you liked it!
Indeed, the story is quite compelling, and they stayed pretty close to the original story and scenes of the book. Some details were omitted, but that's unavoidable when adapting such a lore-heavy book.
As to give you some info on the lore and politics of the Duniverse, so it becomes a bit more clear:
You have 4 major powerblocks in this universe:
1)The Emperor (and his army, the Sardaukar)
2)The Landsraad, consisting of a dozen Great Houses (and many Minor Houses, all vying for power). Think Game-of-Thrones here, but in sci-fi setting. ;-)
3)The Bene Gesserit; a semi-religious Order, consisting of women, whom have certain powers (like the Voice, or being a Truthsayer, and some others not shown yet) and exert a lot of behind-the-scenes influence, but mostly stay low-profile
4) The Guild Navigators and CHOAM; a strong mercantile power, with a monopoly on spacetravel
It was more or less explained in the beginnings when Paul talked with his dad on Caladan: House Atreides is a growing power, politically and military, and the Emperor feels threatened. But he can't directly attack the House, because otherwise the Landsraad (the ensemble of Great houses) will turn against him. As said, they each constitute a "big power" in this Duniverse. So the Landsraad and the Emperor keep each other in check, as it were.
Meanwhile, the Bene Gesserit are working from the shadows, on both sides - they primarily are concerned with their own plans and devices, to create the Kwizatsh Haderach. They manipulate from the shadows and actually form the third great power in this universe, but seldom show it openly. They also exert power by political marriages, or become concubines for political advantages - which is why Jessica wasn't married to Leto, though it was done to benefit him and House Atreides, not herself or the Sisterhood.
The fourth independent power, which is hardly touched upon in this first part of the movie, is CHOAM and the Spice Guild. They're like a huge mercantile power, and the Guild Navigators are the only ones able to move/teleport between planets, so without them, there would be no viable interstellar Imperium. Which make them essential and an enormous powerhouse as well - though, of course... they are and remain dependent on the Spice. That's why: whom controls Arrakis, controls the Empire.
So the Emperor can't directly attack a Great House like Artreides, or he risks all-out war with the Landsraad, consisting of the other Great Houses. Instead, he uses an indirect attack, with and through the Harkonnens whom are doing the grunt work for him. They want their fiefplanet with all the Spice back and already have a centuries-old feud with the Atreides, so they're easily prodded into action. It's a sort of semi-proxy war, thus. He does help the Harkonnen to make sure they'll win - hence why he sends a few battalions of Sardaukar, his elite troops. But no-one (especially not the Landsraad) may know about that. (That's also why they killed Liet, because she was going to expose the Emperor's meddling).
Now...as far as the melee fights and old/new tech are concerned, it's important to realize that in the Duniverse, while there is very high-tech at CERTAIN aspects, others are low tech (which gives the retro-feeling of the movie) but with a reason. It may seem strange at first sight, but note, however, that this has an in-story explanation, namely: thousands of years ago, there was a rebellion against "thinking machines" (AI) called the Butlerian Jihad. Humanity won (barely), but since that time there is a very strong taboo on creating anything resembling robots or AI, and humanity started to develop their own powers (aided by the melange/spice), such as Mentats (basically human supercomputers). This is the reason you don't see any highly developed robots, AI or even computers in this world.
This mix of old and new tech is a defining, historically explained element of the Duniverse; it's part of the worldbuilding and lore. Now, specifically about the melee combat: maybe you missed it, but they explained the shields in that fighting scene; they said "the slow sword can penetrate it". This is a hint that ALL objects with high kinetic energy are stopped dead in their tracks when hitting the shield, but SLOW objects can penetrate it. Meaning: ALL of our "modern" warfare weapons would largely become obsolete: machineguns and all fast moving shells/bullets etc. become useless, but swords and knifes that are SLOWLY moved can still reach a target through the shields. Making the use of swords and knifes, after thousands of years, the dominant way of fighting once again. It's actually a cool twist.
Hope that made things more clear!
Your explanation and a few others on this channel are the best summaries I have seen on a channel reacting to Dune.
@@tahitifan100 You're welcome! :-)
Also, to add the time in which the story play. In the begin of the movie they show, it's the year 10191, but this is not 10191 AD, it's 10191 AG. Means the story play 10191 years after the founding of the spacing guild.
The spacing guild was founded after the Butlerian Jihad. Approx 12000 year AD. Though not sure if it is 12000 AD, or 12000 years after our current time. So, either 12000 or 14000 AD.
Means the story happens 22000 to 24000 years in the future.
@@lisanalgaib555 That is correct. AG (After Guild), and BG (Before Guild) are the iterations used and the lore gives some indication as how that relates to our AD (Anno Domini). The most precise date - with a high level of accuracy - is that the first Dune novel which is set in 10,191 AG, corresponds approximately to 23,148 AD.
It is mentioned the "space age" takes place in 11,000 BG, and assuming this would mean it began in 1957 AD as this is when the first satellite, Sputnik, was launched, we can rebuild the whole timeline to our AD. So if you add the year 11,000 BG to 10,191 AG you’re left with a time span of 21,191 years. So if you add 21,191 years to 1957 AD, you’re left with 23,148 AD as the most likely date.
Quite some time! Most casual watchers of the movie think it's 10000 years in the future, but it's actually more than twice as much.
49:00 the reason why they don't use firearms is because of the shields
The shields repel every fast moving projectile
That's why in the movie the character played by Brolin said:"The slow blade penetrates the shield"
Only if you use blades can you control the speed at which you thrust into the shield, it takes alot of practice
@heinrichkramer8059 Villeneuve prioritised cool visuals over lore in a few cases, safe to assume laser vs shield does not cause a nuke in his version of the universe.
The theatre experience of this movie is exeptional ... I get it, if you want to save the second movie for the reaction, but daaaang... If you EVER get a chance to see this one in theatres, DO IT! -The soundscape is amazing!! The floor was vibrating from the bass notes! Also the sheet size of everything from the ships to the worms... Is so much more ... Well...MORE... On the big screen.
Agree, shook me to the core... I imagine it's comparable to what ppl felt when they first saw Jurassic Park back in 93! Big sound, big scale, big adventure...
I just watched a scene comparison between imax (1.43:1) and widescreen, and this movie was butchered to make it widescreen. All of the spaces are bigger and more beautiful in fullscreen. There's details to give a sense of scale that are completely missing from widescreen.
So watch part 2 in imax if you can!
this movie was so much better in cinema then when i watch it now at home it doesnt have words
this movie based all his POWER on visual and audio masterclass and a cinema just exceeds at that
Agreed. I watched it in the cinema with my boyfriend and it was gorgeous. My boyfriend wasn't as invested as he didn't read Dune but he still could very much appreciate the cinematography, CGI and soundtrack.
Couldn't agree more, this was "MAD" good in the cinemas. The audiovisual power was real.
The Oak mentioned loving how sci-fi imagines various aspects of the future, including costuming. Something I really liked about this film is that most of the costumes seem to look backward, rather than into the future (space suits, stillsuits and armour excluded). This is because of Jacqueline West, one of the costume designers. She usually does period pieces and when asked to work on Dune initially refused because she’d never worked on science fiction before. The response was that that was exactly why they asked her. This is a civilisation that is so far into the future that it has looped back around in a sense. So she drew on a lot of fashion from renaissance-era nobility, the medieval middle-east, as well as religious orders like the Vatican and convents for inspiration. Just an interesting little fact that I really enjoyed about this movie!
Sadly, noone in comments talks about director of the movie. Danny Villeneuve. This guy is incredible. After watching his Bladerunner 2049 I watched all his movies, and they all are freaking awesome.
Gotta remember that Dune inspired Star Wars. Dune came first, and did it better.
I don't think it's fair to say Dune "did it better", Star Wars takes itself much less seriously than Dune. Star Wars is an over-the-top space opera, Dune has a lot more deep lore and worldbuilding. It's like comparing Lord of the Rings to A Song of Ice and Fire
@@pabloc8808 Well, Dune definitely did the "desert planet" concept better than Star Wars. Frank Herbert actually took great care in justifying why Arrakis is a desert and how its ecology works. Meanwhile, Tatooine is a desert planet because that's what Dune did, but- at least in the movies- you don't see that same care and attention put into the world building.
@@ninakrishnamurthy6674 Yeah because Star Wars is a space opera. It's built upon the very phrase "it's not that deep, bro", so much that when they tried to expand the universe and explain shit it started falling apart, because it was never meant to be deep it was just supposed to look cool, which is fine if that's what you're going for.
@@pabloc8808 Oh I agree with you. Don’t get me wrong; I LOVE the original Star Wars trilogy. But I also love solid world building, and I’ve always disliked the “single biome planet” trope. So when I read Dune in anticipation for the 2021 film, I was surprised by how “real” Arrakis felt to me. That being said, comparing Dune to Star Wars is very much an apples to oranges comparison.
@@ninakrishnamurthy6674Yeah, but I agree with you on Dune's worldbuilding being great. Does it make sense scientifically speaking? Idk, it's an alien planet, science doesn't apply. The interesting part, for me, isn't the explanation of why Arrakis is a desert. What I like is that it is a key point in the political dispute and the entire construction of the universe, makes it much more compelling than just "oh it's a desert because we needed an inhospitable planet for the story to be cool"
I'm so glad you guys did this one! I read the first 3 books when I was 10 and they had a radical impact on me. I memorized the Litany Against Fear (the words Jessica said while Paul was being tested) and use it to this day to help with anxiety or any fear inducing situation.
When you were 10?! I was reading Percy Jackson and Rangers Apprentice when I was 10, reading Dune that young would have been to much for my mind to handle. I'm currently rereading the second book before I move on to the third. Favorite reads in a while.
I sadly did not even know Dune existed when I was 10, I was heavily into H. G. Wells and Jules Verne back then. Wasn't until early high school that I first read Dune and the five sequels.
We have the same life lol my Dad was really into scifi and thrillers and I was reading these at 9, 10 and got into Harry Potter at university instead 😂😂 I also have the litany against fear memorized and my therapist even worked it into my CBT
Just watched Dune 2 this evening at the cinema. Blew my mind. Amazing to see on the big screen. You guys are in for a treat xxxx
This is not just one of the best science fiction films of all time, it's one of the best films of all time. It's gorgeous to look at. The music is otherworldly. The acting is top notch.
I loved the fact that they added the shot where the worm recognized Paul. Can’t wait for part two. Excellent adaptation of the book so far. I hope he makes films of the other books in the series.
Why, so he can mess them up as well?
Paul recognized the worm earlier in the movie, too--when he says, "I recognize your footsteps, old man," it's a double meaning--Gurney is coming up behind him, but...the sandworm isn't just known as Shai-Hulud, it's also known as "the old man of the desert". Lots of double meanings like that in the book, too.
@@Shan_Dalamani you probably think the 1984 version is accurate
@@beefish00 Of course it wasn't completely accurate. The 'weirding modules', the Water of Life scene, and the rain at the end were pure bullshit, not to mention the stillsuits not working as described in the novel. But at least Lynch understood the characters of Chani and Liet-Kynes and that one's father isn't a woman and that women would not hold the position in either the Imperium or among the Fremen that Villeneuve's version did.
Holy shit. Paul’s reaction to the dreams. The fear in his voice, he begins to cry in pain. Was bringing me to tears.
Then lashing out at his Mother and discovering the truth about him, was so explosive. Had me jumping the first time seeing this. Paul’s anger was 100% 🔥🔥.
I watched DUNE on HBO 4 weeks ago. Epic. Epic. An incredible cast, Timothee Chalamet knows how to carry a sci-fi story with great perfection. The music score.stunning.
BTW: I knew there was going to be a Tom Holland joke, from you guys. Haha.
The novel by Frank Herbert sold nearly 20 million copies and changed science fiction forever, influencing everything from Star Wars to Game of Thrones.
I read it as a teenager and it quickly became one of my favorite books ever. Which is why it was so emotional for me and many Dune fans to see how brilliantly Villeneuve and this amazing cast and crew interpreted it for the big screen.Breathtaking immersive filmmaking. Cannot wait for Part 2.
I'm glad you guys liked the movie. Compared to the book, the movie is just the tip of the iceberg. The book is really dense with world building and background material that makes the main story so rich.
Couple of things:
1) Kudos for picking up a lot of the "show, don't tell" moments (Such as putting together what Kynes was doing when she called the worm before her death) and asking some very good questions about how this world works (Do the worms eat the spice?). For those of us who love the books, there was so much included that isn't explicitly pointed out. I won't answer all of your questions, as the next two movies should address them. But...
2) Since it isn't exactly a spoiler, I will say that the Fremen cut themselves with their crysknives because, with specific exceptions, blood MUST be drawn if the knives are drawn.
The Dune fandom waited a long time to see if this was going to be good and damn did Villeneuve deliver. Is it a perfect adaptation? No. Is it leagues better than the Lynch version? YEP. Personally, I'm hoping that the next two movies are received well enough for them to adapt the third and fourth books. Things get interesting and weird, even by Dune standards.
Villeneuve missed the part where Liet-Kynes is a man, not a woman.
The movie was amazing. I've read the books many times over and a few things that disappointed me a little was 1) the dinner party scene was left out. 2) I wish there would have been more dialogue between the Barron and his mentat. 3) I wish he would have shown the conflict between Thufir and lady Jessica. We can't always get what we want but even without that the movie was amazing I can't wait for part 2
@@darkstar3116 If he died on Arrakis, he doesn't have a grave. They would have put his body through the deathstill and added his water to their cisterns.
So something that is not touched on in the movies but important about the crysknives that the Freman carry is that if you draw the knife you must draw blood to honor Shai Hulud before sheathing the blade again. So when they all cut the top of their wrists that is the reason why.
Interestingly, Villeneuve missed this out (where Jessica meets Mapes). However, Lynch shot it & it can now be seen in Spice Divers excellent Dune: Redux fan edit.
Yes it's true what you said about "not re-sheathing the knife without drawing blood", I don't think that's the reason they all cut their arms this time, Stilgar had just put Paul/Jessica under his protection and to me it looked more like they were sort of swearing a "blood oath" to respect his protection as their leader, I can't remember if it's shown, but I bet Jamis would not have cut his arm.
@@TSZatoichi By making it a rule to never sheath an unbloodied knife you are making people think twice before drawing it, because once it is drawn the course of action is now set, someone will die.
In that specific instantance with Mapes and Jessica, it was more verbal sparing. Mapes was testing Jessica's limits/prowess and Jessica responded with knowledge of Fremen custom, showing that she understood Mapes was insulting her and implied that thoes insults were akin to Mapes drawing her knife against Jessica. To save face and preserve honor, but simultaneously test if Jessica is cruel like the Harkonnen, Mapes offers her life to Jessica who shows mercy while allowing Mapes to maintain her dignity.
I seem to recall a Fremen cutting their own thumb with a Crysknife before sheathing it in a later novel, as part of a ritual (might have been god emperor)
@@TSZatoichi probably the interpretation in this context since again it wasn’t explained about the crysknife. But if I remember from the book, and it’s been a while, when Jessica attacks Stilgar to show her “weirding ways” quite a few people drew their knives by instinct and then drew blood before putting it away. But I may be conflating two scenes into one
They will most likely explain it in the 2nd movie, but the way worm-riding works, basically, is by pulling up select scales of the worm, exposing its more delicate flesh to the sand, which makes it not want to dive in. By changing the lifted plates slightly, you can kinda control the direction it goes.
watching this movie i was like
"wait this sounds and looks like warhammer"
and from that day on i realized pretty much everything sci-fi had its roots in dune
Dune is to sci-fi what Lord of the rings is to fantasy. It redefined it and made it what it is today.
Movie was incredible I saw it in IMAX. Entire cast killed it. Excited as hell for part 2. Zendeya is going to have a huge role in that one.
I first read this book when I was 14. It is unparalleled science fiction. My absolute favorite. And Denis Vileneuve hit it out of the park with this one. Amazing.
can't wait for Dune Part 2 in Oct/November2023 and its gonna be insane and more action I tell ya.. you guys really are fortunate with this adaptation. easy to digest to an already challenging source material.
readers of DUNE took many re-reads in order to get the story. so much details in it.
I’ve seen some of the concept art & sets for what will be Caladan & it’s looking amazing.
They’ve been shooting scenes for Caladan out in Italy & have increased the number of sound stages being used in Hungary.
I really really hope we get Dune Messiah!!!!
Me too. Christopher Walken will be playing the Emperor.
@@dudermcdudeface3674 all the additional cast announcements have been amazing; really excited to see what Walken & Austin Butler bring to their respective roles.
@@davidanderson1639 That wasn't Caladan. Caladan is never visited again. That was the Emperor's homeworld Kaitain.
Yes the circular window looks like the Atreides castle, but the overall architecture is radically different, and Italy is not Norway which is where Caladan was filmed.
@@pseudonymousbeing987 That’s right, I stand corrected there. The scene for Kaitain have been filmed at the Brion Tomb near Altivole.
Schoolboy error on my part; even more so seeing as I’ve read Dune countless times 🤦🏻♂️
The way they story deals with the taking of human life is something every writer should think on.
"is he just toying with him?"
"No. He has never killed a man."
Paul's first kill is what we want as an audience, but still churns the stomach.
You might want that, but for me it's rather boring. I'm not a fan of passive protagonists the faster the protagonist can start becoming active the better.
you can be an active protagonist without killing anyone...though@@drafezard7315
it’s not bc he never killed anyone, it’s bc he always fought with a shield so he slows down just before the blade hits which gives Jamis time to dodge.
@@yoda9256 It's both of these things, he appears to be toying with Jamis because of shield fighting, but he is also reluctant to kill him as he's never killed before and is a good lad at heart. Same reason Jessica shames him immediately after he wins the fight, she doesn't want him to feel good about taking life.
This was an interesting film! Looking forward to part 2. What did the movie miss from the books? Did this film meet your expectations?
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The more you watch these movies the more you understand and learn to love. It’s incredible
For real, though… the novelty of the spitting custom is genuinely genius. A people so simple to us but with such a unique and perfectly fitted custom. It’s a microcosm of how civilizations interact. 😮❤
The whole idea is that Stillgar is offering some water to his hosts. In such a dry place, water is worth more than its weight in gold. A few drops, just to spit, is a real gesture.
I just saw Dune 2 and this series has become a favorite of mine. The CGI is amazing! I really hope they get nominated for it this year at the Oscars.
Hans Zimmer did an amazing job with the music. Dude did not one, not two but three soundtracks for it.
You have the original motion picture soundtrack that's for the film with almost all of the music heard in the film.
Then the Sketchbook, which acts an experimental and demo-ish sounding version of the cues made for the film.
Lastly, you have the Art and Soul of Dune, which is more or less more ambient and reverb/slowed down versions of the cues made for the film.
Each of the soundtracks is unique and fantastic.
Saw Dune when it came out, and was honestly a bit confused by all the name dropping and pacing of it. Recently watched it again after having read the book, and what a difference it made.
So just in case it hasn’t been explained. In this universe, firearms as we know them are obsolete because of the personal shields. They stop anything fast moving. But to allow oxygen, they permit slow moving objects through. So a fighting technique developed around that, which is what you saw them practicing. So swords are the primary personal weapons.
Also, they do have “laser guns” in this universe, but if those guns hit a shield, a very large explosion (think small nuke) can happen, so no one usually takes the chance of firing at a person with them.
Just rewatched this. I cannot wait for you guys to react to Dune Part Two and have your minds blown. Soon, hopefully.
I like the 1984 version because of nostalgia, but this Villeneuve version is just a great adaption, hope they go all out in part 2. (planned for 2023)
BTW: Yes the worms 'feed' on Spice, they mutated because of it. Humans can too... the lore is pretty deep. And I believe the desert scenes were filmed in Jordan, next to Syria/Israel etc.
@@redmatador7595 No, the worms don't feed on the spice, the worms ARE the spice--they start as spores/micro-organisms that actually produce the spice at that stage of their life-forms. They go through more than one metamorphosis to develop into the massive sandworms.
@@rikk319 They create the spice in their micro organism form but they feed on it in their grown form, the microorganism also traps water deep underground to keep the environment arid, it's a self sustaining ecosystem relying on one life form, it's brilliant sci fi.
Even though I didn’t fall in love with this movie like a lot of others did (speaking as a dune fan), I stand by the opinion that this is one of the best made movies made in this generation. The kind of realism and aesthetic (the effort made to achieve those) is just unlike a lot of recent movies I’ve seen.
That’s a solid opinion. I’m kind of glad I didn’t read the books before seeing this movie. But I will read them after the 2nd part and I will def appreciate the books more after immersing myself in the visual feast that Denis created with his team.
omgggg how did i just see this, I've literally been binging your content for the past month. Saw you guys react to HoTD, Harry Potter, the LOTR saga, and was watching you guys watch these and was like?? How have they not watched Dune?? and BAM it's here!! I can't wait till we all watch the 2nd one in 2023
The reason they fight with knives is that personal shields made firearms obsolete. The other thing to know is that if a lasgun hits a shield it causes an explosion the size of a nuke. Finally the future predicting quality of the spice allows the guild navigators to avoid crashing the guild ships when traveling faster than light.
Two things.
There is a (or rather 2) miniseries in this Universe. The first one is Dune (frome 2000), and the 2nd one is Children of Dune (2003). Not perfect, but much better than the 80:s movie. And it moves farther than the movie. Though the 80:s movie is so bad and hilarious that I just love it.
The 2nd thing is that George Lucas was inspired by these books when he came up with Star Wars.
OK. There's 3 things, not 2.
3rd is that Frank Herbert made a commentary on story tropes (like "The Hero Journey") and on human nature. His most known quote is this:
“I wrote the Dune series because I had this idea that charismatic leaders ought to come with a warning label on their forehead: "May be dangerous to your health." One of the most dangerous presidents we had in this century was John Kennedy because people said "Yes Sir Mr. Charismatic Leader what do we do next?" and we wound up in Vietnam. And I think probably the most valuable president of this century was Richard Nixon. Because he taught us to distrust government and he did it by example.”
I LOVE all your pop culture references and addressing the actors by how you know them (Alan Rickman is always Hans). It's the best!
They had to cram a ton of lore and world building into this movie but it sets up so much. part 2 is gonna be amazing
I'm sooo glad I discovered this soon so I can watch Part 2 in theaters!
And the 3rd film is going to blow people's minds. When they finally see and understand what Herbert was saying.
Dune is my favorite book of all time I went to see this in IMAX when it came out and I cried.
My personal feeling is that "Dune" just reset the bar for sci-fi movies. Everything about this is so clean and amazing looking. Can't wait to see the 2nd one next week!
The thing that makes Dune interesting from a Sci Fi perspective is that they are 10,00 years in the future but have to fight like they are in the dark ages. The shields were not for practice. The personal body shield was standard issue for all fighters of the great houses. There are also laser guns called laseguns. The problem with the technology is that if a lasegun hits an active shield even a small personal one then you get an atomic explosion. That is why they have returned to essentially sword fighting so far in the future. All fighters train in shield combat where you have to kill with a slow motion of the blade, as anything moving too fast the shield will deflect. There is an almost dancelike way in which you position your opponent so as to strike the killing blow.
I really liked how all these recognizable sci-fi elements were presented in almost a religious sort of way, like those astronaut-esque costumes looking like ceremonial garb and the Bene Gesserit spaceship coming and going in lights and fog like some sort of divine cosmic being... The cool/scary scifi creature sandworms being regarded by the planet's culture as sacred, almost like a deity... It's just a really cool way to view all these things that would usually be presented as futuristic/high-tech/wacky science, especially at the time the novels were published.
1st time I was watching this, I was so confused. Just noticed it’s something really big and special, so I did a lot of research and when I get all of the context. My mind is blowing. This movie and Frank Herbert are genius!
Dune books were amazing, cannot get better info on houses than the book..... highly recommend reading or listening to audiobook. However tis movie version so far is doing very well. Feels real as well, villenueve did an amazing job on this.
“How to Train Your Sandworm” LMAO nice one! I was shocked, too! The Fremen got too much power over the desert with that sandworms!
Personal shields block most ballistic weapons. Lasguns (laser weapons) violently interact with shields, causing an explosion that would typically kill bother the attacker and target. That's why there's so much dependence on blades and hand-to-hand fighting. It's the only effective way of getting through a shield because one can learn to slow a strike as it impacts the shield's energy field, allowing it to penetrate.
Desert scenes were filmed in Wadi Al-Rum, Jordan.
Also, this movie caught the most Oscars of all the movies. 6 Oscars :)
The shields stop all fast moving projectiles… but swords can be skillfully used to slowly move through the shield. Also Allows them breathe by letting air passively move through it.
The fashion in this is soooo incredible! The way they took inspiration from Middle Eastern burqas but adapted it to make it more modern is beautiful. I plan on making something similar to that to wear to the cinemas when Part 2 comes out, just like Zendaya did for all of the red carpets she did for this movie (except she didn't sew anything, obviously lol)
The Gom Jabbar scene is actually the first thing that happens in the book. The box is supposed to pull at the nerves in his hand and because all the nerves in the body are connected, it extra hurts. So if he can't deal with that he is unworthy, per the Bene Gessert. As the son of Jessica, he is a Bene Gesserit, but also the son of Duke and the grandson of Baron Harkonnen (as he is Jessica's biological father) he is also eventually married to Princess Irulan who is the granddaughter of the Emperor they mention in this movie. Also, as he was born a generation before he was supposed to he is looked at with disdain by the Bene Gesserit. He is however, the Kwasitz Hederach, and eventually seen as the prophet for the Fremen, the Mua'Dib. In other words, it's a lot of pressure for a 15 year old.
As a scifi fan, I LOVED DUNE. It's told so well and the film is just beautiful. The scifi aspects blend seamlessly with the natural elements. To me this movie is perfection. I can't wait for the second/third parts.
The depth of this story is incredible, and notoriously difficult to adapt to film. Denis V. is doing an INCREDIBLE job w these. Easily the best reaction I've seen yet.
Cheers all!
Sandworm riding: basically when you stick those hooks in the sandworm's thick outer skin and pull, an inner part of the worm that is more sensitive is exposed. So the worm refuses to dive, to not hurt the inner exposed part with sand, and rides the surface. You can also steer the worm like that.
I saw this alone, on a weekday, late at night in an empty theater towards the end of its cinema run. I felt like I was having a religious experience. 😂
I've probably read the first book a dozen times and it never ceases to amaze me the world that Herbert created, reading that in 1965 would have blown peoples minds.
Part 2 is coming out March 1, 2024. And Denis Villeneuve is actually working on "Dune: Messiah" scenario, the final part of Paul's story arc (but not the final Dune story :))
I was saddened when he said that that's where he was going to stop 😢 but I understand why :)
@@michaelriddick7116 but y'know the companies and the higher-ups are going to milk this one (after the trilogy)
@@tds8057 they'll make "all new original content" too further "expand" the Dune universe 😡
The book is over 700 pages if I recall correctly. You're correct in that the first movie did develop a cult following. However, its big problem is it rushes through the story even though it's 2.5 hrs long.
That being said it does have some great production design though some of the effects don't hold up so well.
OMG!! Finally!!! This movie was a cinematic experience! You guys need to watch part two in theaters! Dune is an amazing book and you need to read it!
So the reason they don’t use laser guns is actually really explained well in the book. If a person is wearing a shield and a laser is fired at it, there is an explosive atomic reaction. And the use of atomic weapons in banned in the galactic empire. This means hand to hand, knife and sword based combat is how everyone fights. Also the shield have a flaw where slow moving weapons can penetrate them.
there is zero wasted dialogue or shot in this entire movie, every line, every camera pan, every cut is used to tell us something about this universe, you cannot zone out when watching it cos you will miss something important
riding a sandworm takes hooks you work under the spot where two segments meet. this allows sand to get in there & be an irritant, keeping the worm from sliding back under the sand & letting others climb up after them.
I know this videos old, but at 11:40 the lack of firearms is mentioned, they do actually exist most commonly in the form of lasguns, which are basically supermans heat vision, in the books we see a lasrifle used and it cuts an entire football fields worth of trees down and vaporizes every person in the forest almost instantly. Ofcourse you probably know by now that shield + lasgun = nuclear explosion though
To give you some back story into the Dune universe / saga; a story that spans 35’000 years, it’s good to know that dates are know as BG (Before Guild) & AG (After Guild). The Guild monopoly on space travel / transport and upon interstellar banking is taken as the beginning point of the Imperial Calendar.
Interestingly, the events of Dune when set to our current Earth years, take place 20’000 years into our future; so technically we are part of the Dune story.
A little timeline for the Dune universe.
19000-16000BG - Earliest civilisations on Terra (Earth)
16500BG - The Roman Empire
14100BG - 13600BG - Our Solar System is colonised.
13402BG - An asteroid hits Terra making it uninhabitable.
13402BG - 13399BG - The Rescue of Treasures off Terra.
13360BG - Terra is reseeded & set aside as a natural park under Imperial Decree.
200-108BG - The Butlerian Jihad. the crusade to free humans from thinking machines.
86BG - Foundation of House Atreides.
O - Foundation of The Guild.
10140AG - Duke Leto is born
10190-10191 - House Atreides moves to Arrakis.
I saw Dune in IMAX on release day & it just begs to be seen on a huge screen. This really is the adaptation that fans of the novel; like myself, have been wanting for so long.
It wasn’t rushed & forced to cram the story in to a short run time like the Lynch version; it was given the space to breathe. Also the vastness of the worlds were also allowed that space.
Not for a long time; probably since Blade Runner 2049, or seeing LOTR in a theatre have repeatedly let out sighs of relief….& smiled so much at how amazing a film has been.
From a design point of view (as I have a degree in film design), the worlds are spectacular. From the Grecian influence on Caladan, to the brutalist buildings of Arrakeen were epic. The size of the Guild Highliners is incredible….& seeing Salusa Secundus was just the icing on the cake. Can’t wait to see more of Shai Hulud!!
Casting was spot on; just wish we’d been given more of Piter De Vries!! Rebecca Ferguson was excellent as Jessica & the regendering of Liet Kynes didn’t even bother me. The Baron is truly terrifying; not some pantomime villain as we saw in the Lynch version.
In Part 2 (which will deal with the second part of the novel & then if we’re really lucky a third film, based on Dune Messiah) we’ll get to see Zendeya’s Chani be given the chance to really develop.
Also, we’re yet to see the terrifying Feyd Rautha; Austin Butler has been cast in the role, along with Christopher Walken as Emperor Shaddam IV.
10/10 & an absolute must see in the theatres!!!
Also, a few little things of interest:
The Kangaroo Mouse, Maud’Dib will have special significance in Part 2
Paul’s line ‘I recognise your footsteps old man’ are him alluding to Shai Hulud. The worms have many names; many given to them by the Fremen. These including Old Man of The Desert, Old Man Eternity & Grandfather of The Desert. In Arabic Shayʾ-Khulud translates as "Thing of Eternity" or "Thing of Immortality", consisting of Shayʾ "thing of" (in construct state) and Khulud "eternity" or "immortality".
Just got done watching Dune 2 and this movie is so much better now too lol can’t wait for yall to watch it however you do it!
When Stilgar said, you may not challenge a Sayyadina... He was referring to her being a Bene Gesserit Initate, that she hadn't become a reverend mother yet.. They knew she was one when he said 'a weirding woman', AND a fighter. Using the word Weird is clever, and not Wield( since they were fighting with knives in the moment)
I love the subtle details :D
Regarding the riding of the sandworms, the book describes how the hooks used by the Fremen are used to pry apart the worm's scales. That exposes the softer tissue and a worm will not dive into the sand because it irritates those tissues. That's how the Fremen can more safely ride them even though it's still dangerous stuff.
That’s really cool. Frank really thought of everything! I’m going to read the books after the 2nd part is here. I started with the movie so I’m going to finish with the movie and then compare notes. I think I’ll appreciate the books more if I do this since I’m in love with the first film.
The production design of the ‘84 version is chefs kiss. This is a good second place in style.
I read Part 1 just before watching the movie. I already knew it was a huge order, that 2 great producers had failed before (well, the previous one has some redeeming qualities). But, Denis Villeneuve has done it before (taking up a challenge by doing the sequel to Blade Runner), so I had faith.
If you knew how much details are in those books, which has the reputation to be the best sci-fi piece of literature of all time, you would be even more impressed by what Denis Villeneuve did. I mean, with not a lot of talking, he was able to explain the world and its moving parts perfectly. And the cinematography, the music, wow wow wow. It's a masterpiece that will age very well. The bar for sci-fi movies has just been pushed higher.
I remember going to the theaters and watching the 1984 version of Dune when I was a teenager. We received literature about the movie while we were there. It helped us to know what was going on and who the enemies were. A young Patrick Stewart, Jean-Luc Picard of Star Trek: The Next Generation, played Gurney Halleck.
This movie was honestly a cinematic masterpiece in theaters. I was honestly blown away with how fucking good it was
The Politics of Dune:...
House Atreides is related to the Imperial House (House Corrino). The Atreides are really well liked among the noble houses and the emperor is jealous/fears usurpation.
The emperor plots with House Harkonnen to take Arrakis/Dune from them and give it to the Atreides.
It's a poisonous gift. This takes the Atreides out of a position of strength in Caladan and makes them vulnerable in a new world they don't fully control.
The Harkonnen and the Atreides are in a feud between the families. If they come into conflict no other noble house can intervene. The Harkonnen use this feud as justification to attack and kill the Atreides and take back Arrakis/Dune.
The emperor supports the Harkonnen with his imperial troops, the Sardaukar. This is done in absolute secret. If the other noble houses were to learn about it they would unite together against the Harkonnen and the Imperial House (House Corrino).
This way, the Emperor takes out the Atreides without a full-on galactic war, with the purge disguised as a feud between two Houses.
Of course, a prophecy is gonna mess with everything....
By having Paul, Jessica may have derailed the plans of the Bene Gesserit. This is something the Bene Gesserit have little tolerance for.
(This is the kind of movie/story that, if you don't pay attention to the dialogue, you will miss a lot. Every line of dialogue has a purpose. Miss one line, there is a good chance will be lost.)
15:18 - The reason Stilgar spits is because that's the upmost form of respect in their culture/place. Imagine being in a complete desert planet, water/moisture is very sacred, having someone spit is saying their completely fine losing that vital source of life for you.
I first saw Dune in 2000. Frank Herbert's Dune was a miniseries made at the time. There is also a sequel miniseries called The Children of Dune. Then, in a college film class, I saw the 1984 movie adaptation. I love the miniseries. Of course the CGI is old and TV budget level, but the story and acting was incredible to me. I was already a Star Wars and Star Trek fan so it was another great Sci-fi universe to explore. This new adaptation is visually stunning with great CGI and costuming but that's all for me. I'd rather rewatch the miniseries.
The Scify versions were done well.
One of the things about Dune, is that shield technology reflects rapid kinetic forces. So bullets and quick blade motions are blocked. But slow blades and projectiles can move through the shield.
They filmed in Jordan.
for the ending and the riding of the worm, you put the hook into the side of the worm, it senses part of body is hurt and the worm will rotate so that part is away from random sand getting in the "wound" as long as you stay near that area the worm will think it is still wounded and not submerge under the sand out of fear of infection.
The worm riders use the hooks to pull out one of the outer rings of the worm armor. To protect itsself from the sand, the worm rolls that vulnernle area to the top (and it also wont submerge). The rider plans his feet and rolls up the worm to the top.
The story takes place 10,000 years from the Butlerian jihad (the wars against thinking machines), which was itself 10,000 years from today.
So it is *20,000* years in the future.
To answer a few of your questions and expand on a few scenes in the movie with context from the book.
This movie is not a remake of the Lynch version from 1984, it is a new adaptation.
Many people notice a very big Star Wars vibe within the story. This book was a huge influence on George Lucas and he has openly stated in interviews to borrowing heavily from DUNE when writing Star Wars.
This adaptation is much more faithful to the source material but even so is still missing some pretty big things from the book.
A quick explanation of the universe. It states that the year is 10191. In fact it’s more like 22000 and humanity has survived a war with A.I., left Earth in the distant past and spread out across the galaxy. Interstellar travel is possible but extremely dangerous without the use of spice and Spacing guild navigators. With so much distance between worlds, people have evolved into extreme, versions of humanity.
There are many factions and organizations in the known universe. The emperor and House Corrino, The Landsraad ( a sort of congress made of all the noble houses)The CHOAM company (sort of like OPEC), the Spacing Guild and the Benne Geseritt (kind of like morally ambiguous female Jedi), the Fremen ( natives of Arrakis), Sardukarr ( Imperial terror troops) and many more.
Computers and A.I. are outlawed so humanity has focused on extreme training of the human body and brain. Mentat’s are basically living computers. Thufur Hawatt is a Mentat.
There was a discovery called the “Holtzman effect” that allows humans to manipulate matter on a quantum level and allows for the Holtzman drive that allows for the folding of space, levitation and large and small scale energy shields.
The reason there are very few firearms is that the shields deflect fast moving objects so conventional firearms are useless. Slower moving weapons like blades or darts can be made to penetrate the shields but require intense training to use.
If you haven’t read the first book, DUNE, I highly recommend it. The worlds, characters, plots and sub plots are intricate and amazing.
I can’t really describe my excitement to finally see a good adaptation on the big screen. Part 2 will be even better!
I'm rewatching this reaction to watch your reaction to Dune 2. Both movies are masterpieces.
This first movie is kinda hard to follow if you never read the books, it's one of those movies that you want to watch again both to see again and to understand better, and it hooks you so well! I remember watching it 3 times.
1984 Dune is legendary!
With the new movie you really missed the opportunity to watch it in Cinema. The visuals are made for the big screen.
I grew up with the 1984 version which was so different for it's time many had issues understanding it. There were even small reference booklets made up so movie goers could look up words, etc. to keep up. I was pleased when the extended version was released and when I finally started watching this version, the story beats were the same but everything felt slower and sadly, the same as every other 'epic' movie made in the last several years. I'm happy it's accessible to modern audiences as long as they don't muck up part 2.
Shields stop fast moving objects. Hence the lack of projectile weapons. And firing a laser at a shield results in an explosion of random yield wiping both parties ranging from a moderate blast to a nuclear explosion.
Thus most fighting is restricted to blades.
I’m a big Star Wars fan and I know that this story was the inspiration for those movies and wow this was incredible to watch, reminds me of when Avatar came out a decade ago, amazing visuals and encapsulating story can’t wait for part 2!
I saw the '84 movie while I was on a bus, on a VHS tape being played on the displays in the bus. I could hardly the conversations. After that trip, I eventually found the second part of the book, which starts from about the time that Paul and Jessica free themselves from the Harkonnen ornithopter. Much later, I was able to find the first part and read that too, then read the second book, then played Dune II, the first proper RTS game, and then I couldn't finish the third book, as hard as I tried. I read about the other books on Wikipedia. There was a time when C&C was referred to as "Dune 3", that's how popular Dune II was as a game. What an incredible trip.
DUNE part two just came out. Can’t wait to see your reaction!!! Good for you for waiting… I will be waiting for your reaction!!! You won’t be disappointed!! Your feelings about part two are spot on!
This is one of my top favorite films now, so I'm happy to see you guys reacting to it! The announcement of this film made me give the book another chance, for the first time I tried reading it i was in college and therefore very distracted. I read the first half of the book before seeing the film, then read the rest afterwards. And so when I watched it at my friend's place on his HBO Max, I was geeking out! I also adored Arrival and Bladerunner 2049 so Denis V's style and directing was really enjoyable here for the world of Dune. I think he nailed the vibe of the book perfectly.
Dune was shot in Norway, (Planet Caladan), Hungary, (Planet Giedi Prime), and Abu Dhabi and Jordan, (Planet Arrakis also known as Dune).
Part 2 is going to be much more exciting and this movie is a good foundation for what's to come. I hope the next movie has more about the Bene Gesserit in it. They're fascinating and there's a lot to know about them.
Well then you will like this. An upcoming TV show for HBOmax. Dune: The Sisterhood TV series. This series may be based on the novel Sisterhood of Dune, by Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson. A prequel to the original Dune, it is the first of the Great Schools of Dune trilogy, and tells how the Sisterhood of Rossack evolved into the Bene Geserit.....
@@candidob8683 I think Brian Herbert's and Kevin J. Anderson's books are more easily adapted for the screen since they're mostly just straight forward stories where as Frank Herbert's Dune books have a lot more exposition and philosophy. As for the show, I wish they'd get in gear and do it already.
@@angelagraves865 They were written with this in mind, no doubt. They're more action-oriented, and much less complex. In short, they're great for fans who don't like to think too much. They're McDonalds for the mind, rather than the gourmet feast of Frank's books, that nourish the mind in profound ways.
Duncan, the MVP for sure! That tradition they do where they touch their blade to their forehead before fighting, I don't know what it is but it just feels so cool. I can't wait for more!
Jessica, Paul’s mom was Duke Leto’s Bound Concubine. He even says to her, before the deadly attack, that He (Duke Leto) should have married her. The Barron Yells at Leto, Your son is dead, your concubine is dead” right before Leto breathes out the poison. Duke Leto never married. Jessica was presented to Duke Leto by the Bene Geserit Order years before. Paul is 15 years old in this movie. The Bene Geserit Order commanded Jessica to only bear daughters to her Duke as his bound concubine. Jessica fell in love with her husband-master and he wanted a son. Jessica gave birth to Paul, defying her Bene Geserit Orders, because she loved her husband-master Duke Leto. Paul has abilities because of Jessica’s choice to give Duke Leto a son. The fact that Jessica is/was a concubine is important to understanding Dune. Pay attention to anyone who is, or becomes a concubine as the story progresses.
The background lore for Dune is incredibly detailed. For instance, the reason you can ride a sandworm is because they have scales all over their bodies that among other things keep sand out. If something prevents the scales from closing tight, they won't dive beneath the sand to avoid getting sand in there until it can dislodge the irritant. The Fremen use this fact and lodge something in there to prevent the worm from diving beneath the sand and then use them to travel.
Some more fun facts, the worms start life as sandtrout that come together and fuse into an amalgamation that then evolves into a sandworm. The spice is actually created by the worms or rather, the sandtrout. Arrakis was once a planet with plenty of water (there is actually still alot of water, just not a lot of surface water) and the sandworms are super allergic to water. Their earlier development stage, the sandtrout, can survive limited exposure to water and will flock to water and encapsulate it as they multiply until the environment becomes almost free of water. At this stage they can come together to form the huge sandworms. The sandtrout excrement, when exposed to water, will form a pre-spice mass that will produce gasses that causes explosions of spice (or Melange as it's also known) on the surface.