From Ryde Rail to Island Line. Isle of Wight
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- Опубликовано: 16 янв 2018
- The Isle of Wight Ex. London Transport Tube Stock. Unique film of the unloading of the first '1938' stock in 1989. Also the demolition of Sandown Signal Box. The film also looks at the old 'Standard' stock working between Ryde and Shanklin. Original footage filmed on S-VHS.
What a super film - Thank You.
Love the ending when you informed us as to what happened to the trains- It was on my mind.
I used to wave to the driver as the train went by at Lake, when on holiday in the '70s- he'd sometimes "peep" back- very exciting to a young boy. I didn't know the trains were build in the '20s.
Long live the Island Line!
My dad, uncle and grandparents would ride on these trains all the time back in the day.
Such a lovely film. This railway deserves to be preserved, not ripped up.
yep its really hard keeping it running, this railway is a non profit.
Dusrotion54 it’s a profit railway it’s ran by a private company what do you mean?
Fishbowl there still a for profit company SWR / Island line
Ah understandable
But Still the Ex-38 Stock Deserves a Calm Retirement With The Surviving Sets Preserved. And That Wish Can Turn Into a Great Reality, London Transport Traction Group Will take Either Unit 006 or 008 To The Epping Ongar Railway, While the 007 Could Get Transferred To the Isle Of Wight Steam Rail. Currently 3 Units Are Preserved According to Wikipedia
What a wonderful overview of the change from a totally life expired to train to another life expired train
Is this the man equivalent of a sad movie? It's like watching a living entity succumbing to a slow death.
That video was entertaining from beginning to end, thank you for uploading this
remember these units from my visits to family on the island happy times
Great film, thanks for uploading. Sad that signal box was so brutally destroyed. Love the music in the film though, very fitting 👌
It is heartbreaking when they destroy an old signal box like that, I felt like it should have been redecorated and preserved.
☹️ - so sturdy/strongly built, it refuses to be destroyed 😁
I Agree. i wonder how the Island Line will look when the D-stock gets there.
I can’t agree with you more Richard. Please send my regards to Clarkson and May!
@@UKWMO 😂😂😂
It was done with more respect than perhaps nowadays ..... not demolished with an excavator, more like dismantled.
A wonderful documentary - very similar to what I want to produce myself for the next changeover in the Island's railway history, once I'm able to get back over there.
Incredible how little the line has changed!
Just shy of 26 minutes of complete nostalgia and relaxation.
I love th I-o-W. Been there often and on all those trains from 1960 ownwards, with me grandma. Freshwater was one of our designated Scout Summer Camps also.
Great littel film and so sad. Especially the loss of that signal box. I would have loved to have moved into that.
You've captured the line at some very unique times in its history and the video was clearly years in the making, nice work!
Thank's Gee.
@@keithb6250 Your welcome matE
What a great video, thank you for sharing. I visited IOw only a few weeks back and went to Haven street to see the preserved line; and i must say they have done a fantastic job - on par with Bluebell railway.
This is amazing. Brings my childhood right back. I used to live on the Island and these trains would go past my back garden and I would stand at the back of the garden and wave at the driver when the train passed (sometimes he waved back). I remember going into the signal box at Sandown when I was 7 and the guard let me pull the lever down to raise a signal. I was so fascinated. I was 9 when they changed the trains to the 1938 tube stock the island still uses today. When I go back to visit the island I like to ride these trains and it brings back memories. It’s amazing that the 1938 tube trains are still in use there, although they are looking a little tired these days. Thanks for uploading this video it was fascinating and enjoyable to watch. Some real island heritage right there.
From the Standard Stock to the 1938 Tube Stock and now we're going to see the D78 replacing them this year.
Heartwarming - “New” trains are 51 years old upon delivery...
Heartbreaking - Fairly fresh evidence of torn up 2nd track and abandoned platforms...
Now 2020, and best hopes that the line survives. Better trains incoming, but loss of legendary 38-stock is necessary but sad. Good luck!
The legendary of D78 stock starts here:D
1938 stock are staying on the island or back to England for restoration for heirtage services that happen when covid ends
@@declangaming24 That’s great news! Reason to plan for a future visit. Greetings from 🇳🇴.
41 years old not 51
@@n1thmusic229 Sorry, simple maths late at night…
What a wonderful video of the history of the Ryde Pier Pier to Shanklin Station. I live on the Isle of Wight and can remember travelling all types of tube carriages. In lots of ways, it is a very sad film to watch, however with the new stock soon to be in service things go on. Thank you for the time taken over the years to put this video together. Richard.
Thank you.
Really enjoyed this so thank you.
Thank you for the great film footage. 👍🏾😎
That’s what I think remembered thinking back to my only visit to the island were those old Standard Stock tube trains, this was in the 1970’s, although I could be wrong, watching other videos, the outgoing 1938 tube stock - introduced in 1989, bus-wise, they were all green ECW Bristol Lodekkers, the same as in Brentwood at the time - Eastern Nationals.
Thank you This was wonderful
Great video brings back memories
Those class 483 will be replaced by the 484 soon.
Yeah, the date has been announced. The current trains will be withdrawn on the 4th of Jan, with the new trains being introduced about 4 months later. (a lot of track restoration work is being added in that time).
Hopefully I'll be able to hop on the old trains one last time before they leave!!
Nice video, thanks for sharing.
Some wonderful memories of some wonderful times.
Fantastic video, Sadly now the 1938 stock has been replaced by a modern train after a year on rail works aNd Platform amendments . THANKFULLY A DOUBLE UNIT HAS MADE ITS WAY TO THE Iow Steam heritage railway for preservation , another one to Epping Ongar preservation railway , 2 units were for sale on Ebay ones that were stripped for parts to keep others going
wow just looking at this video make the 1938 look more modern and new.
Superb video!
Last of the strap hanging tubes, the 1920s stock. Remember the steam too!!!
It's Heartbreaking To Look At The 38 Stock' Withdrawal Started Just After 9 Years Of it's Introduction on the Island Line. Now to think of it straight, From 8 Sets, There Are The Remaining 3. It's Just Sad To see The Rolling Stock that Replaced It's Predecessor 83 Years Ago On The Northern Line. Being Displaced By a Train From The Same Operator, There Are Many Differences Between Deep-Level tube and the Sub-Surface Tube, Mostly It's The Body Height.
What a wonderful record of the electrification days on the island. Some great memories there for me. But what does the future hold? I find it worrying that no further tube stock seems to have earmarked for island use. Over the last decade or so there's been a massive upgrade of stock on many of the London tube lines, but nothing seems to have been saved for use on the island. It would be a very sad day if the island line closed altogether. Especially sad when you think back to how the railways used to be during the steam period before the closures began. I for one certainly hope there will be a future for the line.
At least they mention the main problem - length of franchise. Was never a problem back in BR days, but when a company is only guaranteed the franchise for a few years, what guarantee would they have on ever getting their money back if they were to invest in new rolling stock?, especially on something like the Island Line.
@@100SteveB A franchise does not invest in rolling stock. This is the job of the Rolling stock leasing companies, who hold it long term. The provision of new(er) stock comes under the tendering process and so it is the responsibility of the body that holds the tender to select a company that factors in new(er) stock if it sees fit.
They will be replaced with crossrail trains (no joke)
They are getting some old D stock now (Possibly by the end of 2020!) so there is still a future for the island line!
@@leavethisisadeadaccountree2646 crossrail trains are not coming to the Island old D stock from the London Underground to replace the 1938 stock
one of the standard stock from the island is at acton depot as part of the "second heritage train"
Great stuff.. thank you :)
I loved the old standard tube stock.
They last run on the old Northern City line and wee running in 65 and possibly 66 i used to go out of my way to see them.
The line was unusual, it had 16ft tunnels and the stations felt lonely and almost haunted.
Due to the large tunnels tube trains made a very eerie sound as they travelled along the tunnels.
I wonder why happened to them, were any preserved or all scrapped??
January 2021, the 1938 stocks has just been retired and is replaced with the D stock trains.
Hello there!
My name is Vlad and I am a volunteer at Brading Heritage Railway Centre & Tearooms and I was wondering if we could borrow your video in order to show it to people.
Yours faithfully,
Vlad Copeti - Station Volunteer
Have sent you a message
Muy interesante recuerdo !!!
What gets me is that they have had a chance to get much newer trains from London Underground like 1959/1962/1972 mark1/1983 tube stock and they've tuned them all down.
How they keep a normal line of the National Rail network going with trains that are now 80 years old is beyond me
The newer stock was considered unsuitable for some reason. It may have been to do with the use of aluminium in the newer stock, or possibly that the mechanism was less protected, which would have been affected by the salt spray on Ryde Pier.
They used 59 stock for island line
If it aint broke don`t mend it.
@@angelsone-five7912 considering that the few remaining 38 stocks were constantly breaking down in the last few months of operation...
its sad to see that literally non of those 1920 LT stock are in service nowadays, and it will be even sadder to see the 1938`s go soon i`m sure there will be a farewell tour or something.
after almost 3 years, 1938 stock is ripped
--i want the music lists pls
A minor error is that you stated there is no steam on the IOW. What about the Havenstreet railway? I used to go to school (from St Helens to Ryde) on the branch line to Brading from Bembridge. Used to put farthings on the line in the morning and come home to find them bigger than pennies. I can also remember going through the tunnel Shanklin to Ventnor which is now closed.
The Shanklin to Ventnor tunnel houses a water main to Ventnor now.
the class 484 replaced 483
They weren’t afraid of bufferstops back then!
On the first electrics on the island if you sat over a bogie you`d be off the seat half the time. My word they bounced, lol.
When did they stop using Platform 2 at Ryde Esplanade and Ryde Pier Head?
I think its becouse the second track was breaking
The original color of th 1938 stock was better than that red and yellow in the final stage off the line, this january 20 end its service to maintenance the line and enter the renew D stock.
Beautiful video!!!! I must ask, do you have any footage from the 485's between stations? I im desperate to remember the sounds of my childhood, journeys on the train with my grandparents :)
From Ryde Rail(Network Southeast)to Island Line(Maybe London Transport?)
Rather a pleasant video, the 1938 stock still in service today. What will the future bring?
Apparently they're being replaced by reconditioned LT D-Stock trains from the District & Circle Line...as seen in this video, ruclips.net/video/yTdrtRmSUO0/видео.html
Ah but which version? Diesel or Battery?
Definitely not diesel, www.iwcp.co.uk/news/Selfpowered-train-could-replace-old-Island-Line-locomotives-317141.aspx
I wouldn't have thought the old D-stock would be a contender due to gauge issues, the D-stock is much larger than the normal tube stock, pretty much on par with standard overground stock. I think the height difference alone is nearly a meter comparing District line stock with proper tube stock - for example Bakerloo and Northern lines. So Ryde tunnel would be a big problem in it's current form.
When the Standard stock was up for replacement the use of 503 units was investigated. A standard car was used with a 503 profile fitted to it, I have a photo somewhere of it posed in the mouth of Ryde tunnel, the clearance was still generous. Since then the section of the tunnel with the lowest height has been rebuilt, which has increased the clearance. So I cannot see D sock being a problem, especially as it is D sock that is being proposed by the Franchise.
It's a shame that sandown signal box was not saved.
With now only 2 38s in operation and o e current in the workshop the end is sadly coming
I will miss the 38 stock, and I think the 72 stock shouldve replaced them, but a d train is still an old tube train so that's good, I think the old 38s should go to the steam railway or the epping ongar, they should never be scrapped, preserve them and hell even put some in nse livery, just preserve them, the trains have worked for 80+ years and deserve to be preserved
Of course the 1938 trains were delivered by a Seddon-Atkinson tractor/truck/lorry
I hope they decide to take the 1972 stock, but the platforms are too long, but at least they can be split in two with the extra cab!
Trackbed of the closed lines still exists, but the Motorcar religion is too strong to battle for the reopening of lines
9:18 looks like he is pulling the train lol
In this era of two cars in every garage lines like this are doomed without government support. And at present the UK government is having trouble deciding on anything that will affect the possibility of a general election. Tourist trains are noted for running at a loss
Soon to be D-stock diesel cars...well that's the plan so they say.......very nice video :-)
Really?
wont they fit the ryde tunnels?
Ryde Tunnel is being refurbished to take the new trains
But they will use the third rail.
They will be the Called the 484's the electric version of the 230. Or the Third rail version.
Now, they're thinking of converting it to a light-rail system as the tunnels at Ryde can't take main line stock.
Parry Peoplemovers coming soon!
They're thinking about withdrawing the 1938 Stock (I'll get some film of its last day as well). They want to introduce the 'D78' stock used on the District Line, the tunnel at Ryde is being refurbished to take the D stock through.
There's also a talk of reopening to Ventnor, though it's currently at 30% funding.
Well that didn’t happen they are now getting ex London Underground D stock
@@ThameslinkTV Doubt it. There is a water main going through it to supply Ventnor. Also another 33kV/750V DC substation plus civils and 33kV OHL connections will be needed, to provide the traction supply to that section of line.
The signal box should have been preserved not smashed up.
Was this the old stock from the Waterloo & city line?
No. It's all former London Underground.
:)))
What year did you film this please.
Great video but 03179 is now at Rushden being overhauled see their Facebook page at facebook.com/groups/1746967732227696/
Thank you for the up to date info Simon.
all the coaches look a right sorry state now should think it's an eye opener to new tourism don't think the roofs have any paint left look like just huge rusty boxes deserves to be kept and of course put back to steam and something found to fit Ryde tunnel
Everything has become a privatised rip-off.
Island Line is getting more investment now than it has at any point since 1967. How is that a rip-off?
The whole idea of 3rd rail is anacronistic to say the least - such a stupid, wasteful and dangerous system - i'm surprised it was ever allowed to become a reality ! That crap ( along with that equally shite London tube stock ) needs to be scrapped and made a normal non electrified system, using diesel and steam. On such a small remaing system, there is zero reason it should kept as 3rd rail. Just my opinion.
The London and South Western Railway clearly didn't regard the Third Rail as "stupid, wasteful and dangerous" when it launched the "Riverside Electrification" of commuter lines out of London Waterloo in 1915. If your stations are only a mile or two apart, a Conductor Rail carrying low pressure DC permits rapid acceleration up to around 40 mph, at which point the driver will have shut off power for thirty seconds of coasting followed by thirty seconds of braking. The low capital costs of Third Rail, in a built up area with lots of low bridges, make it an attractive option compared to 25kV OLE.
The Island Line's electrification system would be less "wasteful" if the live rail was protected by wooden insulating boards and the supply pressure increased from the London Underground's standard of 630 Volts to something more impressive!
You mean overhead lines not diesel or steam. Why should we fill the country with more toxic emissions
but then again calling all tube stock "shite" indicates your opinion isn’t worth listening to anyway