Got to ride on these twice, once on the pier shuttle when I was about 6, and then the full line when I was 13. That was in 1987, and it was the first long(ish) distance trip I did on my own, from my home in Surrey. Excellent stuff! The trains were in a serious state by then, even more rickety than their successors eventually became! I've really grown to love Island Line over the years. Although it won't have quite the same character again, I'm glad it's getting some cash spent on it, and some trains that will be much more user-friendly.
This brings back memories. I used to travel on these when on the Piccadilly line from Rayners Lane. Always remembered them ticking whilst in station. Then travelled on them when visiting the island. My second favourite tube trains.
Thank you for this! I lived in Ryde 1987-1989 and I remember the smell of the train station & trains even now. Lived just off Spencer Road, and as a kid I used to hear the roar of the hovercraft after I had gone to bed (I was 6) and wondered why I was there and other people wereout and about having fun. I miss those days!
I probably rode on those carriages in London on the Piccadilly line as a kid. My grandmother was probably served tea by one when she slept on the platform in world war two at Russel Square. Amazing how robust and long lasting engineering was in the past.
Fabulous. I remember riding these in the 70s as a kid. That horn too! The interiors are just wonderful. Like the 38 stock, proper tube trains. I rode the 38 stock in the 80s in London before it came to IOW
Thanks for this video, great editing and picture quality. I came to IOW in 1980 and rode on these trains. They were painted all over blue, which I think suited them better than the Network South East livery. There used to be some three car units as well, and in peak season they would run seven car formations.
Remind me of the summer of 1989 a different era compared to today, I went to IOW for the first time in September to catch the 1938 tube stock before it was withdrawn, I don't remember seeing a tall signal box tower in Sandown, it must have been demolished. I missed the chance to ride on this type of train, I liked the interior as it retained the original underground moquette seats, it adds to the charm. Thanks for sharing the video, I feel nostalgic about the 80s.
Yes. At one time there was a line from Sandown to Newport via Merstone where there was a junction with the line to Ventnor West station which was Closed in 1952.
Yes, the Sandown signal box was demolished around 1989, round about the same time as the Standard Stock was replaced by the 1938 Stock. It had already been decommissioned. It was built that tall in order to protrude above the platform shelter canopies..these had already gone long before the box was taken away. There is another video on RUclips entitled "Ryde Rail to Island Line," which, although primarily concerned with the stock replacement, includes footage of the Sandown box being dismantled by crane.
In its heyday there were may more destinations to go to from the Ryde Pier Head station, including Cowes (via Newport), Freshwater, (Also via Newport), as well as Ventnor.
Quite often when accelerating away, these units would give out a loud "bang/pop" before resuming their rather jerky, clicky, speed increase. What caused these noises please?
🤔Moving the master controller quickly back to the coast position or going over a power rail gap while the motors are still building up to full power but have yet to reach full power, Cutting the power while the motors are still under load causes the bang.
We now have a train station at Lake as well. I have lived on the Island since about 1977 and the train has never changed much. Just the colour. We have been told that the Trains we have will be replaced soon. That will be very strange.
Brilliant video, but it doesn’t convey the full ‘Blackpool-type’ white knuckle experience of riding downhill from Brading to Ryde. On the 1927 stock all the machinery was above floor level (it’s what the louvred compartment behind the driving cab is). As a result the centre of gravity was high, and those things rocked and rolled at high speed, especially on the long downhill after Brading. It could be terrifying- I’m sure they would leave the track, and the train would undulate. Being at the back was like being at the end of a cracked whip. You had to have ridden one to know what it was like. The best comparison now is to go to Blackpool and ride one of the old wooden roller coasters (the Grand National is closest). Sit at the back, and the screams of the riders will be exactly like sitting next to my sister on an Island train.
Well thank you so much for the footage of these trains they once run in my local city of Lancaster before been shipped to the Isle of Wight if you look up pioneer line Lancaster you can see them in there hay day running along side steam locos in Lancaster beautiful
Sorry but you are mistaken. The trains in this video are ancient London Tube stock as we're their replacements a few years later. The current ex Northern Line 1938 stock which limp along this line are soon to be replaced with some very cleverly upgraded ex District Line stock supplied by Viva Rail.
@@murraydean2371 wondered how long it would be. I'm not mistaken at all just look up Lancaster pioneer line before your head swells there the same trains that's where they ended up no other line in the world runs those trains.
ebd Denby, there is no need to be rude old chap. My head isn't swelling and if I have made a mistake over a historical fact then I am happy to be corrected, preferably without being insulted. I don't think I was rude to you in my original reply? Lighten up old bean, this is supposed to be a place where we can enjoy nostalgic transport videos, it's not a place to play keyboard warrior (and I mean that with the greatest of respect). Live long and prosper.
The year I was born... Well, apart from the garish Network South East branding, and the replacement of the classes 485 and 486 with the (at the time of comment) current class 483, it looks little changed
They'd only just singled the line through Brading in 1989, just prior to replacing the 485's and 486's, now they're in the process of putting the 2nd track back!
Right up until today, I thought that the first ever electric sliding door trains in Britain were built in the 1930s, these trains are electric sliding door trains and they were built in the 1920s, there's probably a lot that I've got to learn about British trains even at the age of 31.
When was the second platform at Ryde Esplanade taken out of use, was the subway filled in or is it flooded. there must have been a sissors crossover at the pier head?
The last time the pier shuttle ran regularly was 1991, although it ran again in 1997. There was indeed a scissors crossover about halfway down the pier once, but it was taken out in 1971.
@@murraydean2371 But at the moment there is no physical link between the two lines, they've been talking about it for a while but nothing has happened yet, there are many advantages as it saves road movement of equipment between the two lines, there is good cooperation between Island Line and IOWSR.
I have a wonderful photo of my parents sitting in one of those trains taken in 1986 just before they died.
That’s sad
Jimbob - Not really. It’s my last photo of them together and actually makes me smile. Plus it’s a really good photo!
@@AtheistOrphan fair point but it always will be sad you know
I’m sorry for your loss rest in peace
@@JimbobsTransportVideos “I appreciate you telling me it’s not sad but I, a stranger to you, will still tell you how it’s sad.”
I admit it I'm being nostalgic for a railway I'm too young to remember ;)
Got to ride on these twice, once on the pier shuttle when I was about 6, and then the full line when I was 13. That was in 1987, and it was the first long(ish) distance trip I did on my own, from my home in Surrey. Excellent stuff! The trains were in a serious state by then, even more rickety than their successors eventually became! I've really grown to love Island Line over the years. Although it won't have quite the same character again, I'm glad it's getting some cash spent on it, and some trains that will be much more user-friendly.
Very pleasant video. Really enjoyed it.
This brings back memories. I used to travel on these when on the Piccadilly line from Rayners Lane. Always remembered them ticking whilst in station. Then travelled on them when visiting the island. My second favourite tube trains.
Memories of getting on these in 1967 and 1969 on holiday with family as a 9 and 11 year old.
Thank you for this! I lived in Ryde 1987-1989 and I remember the smell of the train station & trains even now. Lived just off Spencer Road, and as a kid I used to hear the roar of the hovercraft after I had gone to bed (I was 6) and wondered why I was there and other people wereout and about having fun. I miss those days!
I probably rode on those carriages in London on the Piccadilly line as a kid. My grandmother was probably served tea by one when she slept on the platform in world war two at Russel Square. Amazing how robust and long lasting engineering was in the past.
They were absolutely falling to pieces by then, though, and the staff were fighting a losing battle keeping them going.
Great to see the Isle of Wight in the year I was born!
This is awesome looking at UK train in 1989! Wow. I love 80s railfan videos...
Fabulous. I remember riding these in the 70s as a kid. That horn too! The interiors are just wonderful. Like the 38 stock, proper tube trains. I rode the 38 stock in the 80s in London before it came to IOW
Thanks for this video, great editing and picture quality.
I came to IOW in 1980 and rode on these trains. They were painted all over blue, which I think suited them better than the Network South East livery.
There used to be some three car units as well, and in peak season they would run seven car formations.
Looks older than all on service tube stocks
BR really knew how to wreck things, took the door out and painted a band of black across the windows and made it look like a panda bear.
Remind me of the summer of 1989 a different era compared to today, I went to IOW for the first time in September to catch the 1938 tube stock before it was withdrawn, I don't remember seeing a tall signal box tower in Sandown, it must have been demolished.
I missed the chance to ride on this type of train, I liked the interior as it retained the original underground moquette seats, it adds to the charm.
Thanks for sharing the video, I feel nostalgic about the 80s.
Yes. At one time there was a line from Sandown to Newport via Merstone where there was a junction with the line to Ventnor West station which was Closed in 1952.
Yes, the Sandown signal box was demolished around 1989, round about the same time as the Standard Stock was replaced by the 1938 Stock. It had already been decommissioned. It was built that tall in order to protrude above the platform shelter canopies..these had already gone long before the box was taken away. There is another video on RUclips entitled "Ryde Rail to Island Line," which, although primarily concerned with the stock replacement, includes footage of the Sandown box being dismantled by crane.
like the update thank's very much
It’s a real shame that ryde pier head station has lost 3/4 of its platforms.
Not enough demand I'm guessing
In its heyday there were may more destinations to go to from the Ryde Pier Head station, including Cowes (via Newport), Freshwater, (Also via Newport), as well as Ventnor.
like stepping back in time thanks
Quite often when accelerating away, these units would give out a loud "bang/pop" before resuming their rather jerky, clicky, speed increase. What caused these noises please?
🤔Moving the master controller quickly back to the coast position or going over a power rail gap while the motors are still building up to full power but have yet to reach full power, Cutting the power while the motors are still under load causes the bang.
We now have a train station at Lake as well.
I have lived on the Island since about 1977 and the train has never changed much.
Just the colour.
We have been told that the Trains we have will be replaced soon.
That will be very strange.
Yes these will be the new trains for the island line en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_484
Brilliant video, but it doesn’t convey the full ‘Blackpool-type’ white knuckle experience of riding downhill from Brading to Ryde. On the 1927 stock all the machinery was above floor level (it’s what the louvred compartment behind the driving cab is). As a result the centre of gravity was high, and those things rocked and rolled at high speed, especially on the long downhill after Brading. It could be terrifying- I’m sure they would leave the track, and the train would undulate. Being at the back was like being at the end of a cracked whip. You had to have ridden one to know what it was like. The best comparison now is to go to Blackpool and ride one of the old wooden roller coasters (the Grand National is closest). Sit at the back, and the screams of the riders will be exactly like sitting next to my sister on an Island train.
Great video! Thanks for posting.
Defunct Standard Stock carriages sitting in exactly the same places at Ryde St.Johns Road as the decommissioned 1938 Stock some 30+ years later!!
was there a Bus Depot next to Shanklin Station back then and was it Southern Vectis or before Buses were privatised by Thatcher
Well thank you so much for the footage of these trains they once run in my local city of Lancaster before been shipped to the Isle of Wight if you look up pioneer line Lancaster you can see them in there hay day running along side steam locos in Lancaster beautiful
Sorry but you are mistaken. The trains in this video are ancient London Tube stock as we're their replacements a few years later. The current ex Northern Line 1938 stock which limp along this line are soon to be replaced with some very cleverly upgraded ex District Line stock supplied by Viva Rail.
@@murraydean2371 wondered how long it would be. I'm not mistaken at all just look up Lancaster pioneer line before your head swells there the same trains that's where they ended up no other line in the world runs those trains.
@@murraydean2371 we are talking 1960s
@@murraydean2371 ruclips.net/video/VVfSuaHvcFQ/видео.html
ebd Denby, there is no need to be rude old chap. My head isn't swelling and if I have made a mistake over a historical fact then I am happy to be corrected, preferably without being insulted. I don't think I was rude to you in my original reply?
Lighten up old bean, this is supposed to be a place where we can enjoy nostalgic transport videos, it's not a place to play keyboard warrior (and I mean that with the greatest of respect).
Live long and prosper.
good video, miss the Old Streetlighting too. and see the trains still using Incandescent in late 80s than Fluorescent,
Pity we didn t get to ride in one Nich, as I remember these tubes on the central line in London
The year I was born...
Well, apart from the garish Network South East branding, and the replacement of the classes 485 and 486 with the (at the time of comment) current class 483, it looks little changed
They'd only just singled the line through Brading in 1989, just prior to replacing the 485's and 486's, now they're in the process of putting the 2nd track back!
i used these in '79-'80 :)
Right up until today, I thought that the first ever electric sliding door trains in Britain were built in the 1930s, these trains are electric sliding door trains and they were built in the 1920s, there's probably a lot that I've got to learn about British trains even at the age of 31.
London Underground's first trains with automatic sliding doors were built in 1919.
Delightful film.
Standard stock. Wonderful!
All the way from 1926, I think.
1922.
Those are 1923 Stock, aren't they?
1922.
The Isle of Wight El.
When was the second platform at Ryde Esplanade taken out of use, was the subway filled in or is it flooded. there must have been a sissors crossover at the pier head?
The last time the pier shuttle ran regularly was 1991, although it ran again in 1997. There was indeed a scissors crossover about halfway down the pier once, but it was taken out in 1971.
I remember the Down Platform at Ryde Esplanade being in use in 1987.
What was the view at 1:53? Was that inside another of the drivers' cabs?
🤔All very high tec 🤭 The best repairing tool in the toolbox was the 🔨
These days (2024) it is just a 2-car train of ex-LT D78 (District Line) stock.
Before the Isle of Wight Steam Railway had the intercharge at Smallbrook
As it does again now , serving as an interchange with the IOW Steam Railway.
@@murraydean2371 But at the moment there is no physical link between the two lines, they've been talking about it for a while but nothing has happened yet, there are many advantages as it saves road movement of equipment between the two lines, there is good cooperation between Island Line and IOWSR.
So were the Centerline Shoegear removed?
Yes
Handles opposite to an American rapid transit train.
A US motorman would have to cross his arms!
No? Just be normal?
Great video. Was this tube stock preserved when it was retired, or did it end up being scrapped?
Most of it's been scrapped. I think the LT Museum still has a rake of this stock that they're still working on to preserve.
One 485 was preserved while no 486s were preserved