It still stands partially due to being on the upper limit of what overhead wires can take. (much faster and they would start to boune around, damaging themselves and the pantograph; this's one reason the train was shorter than in regular service, and lowered one of its pantographs) A train running off internal batteries for the run or a different power source (like gas turbines) could go faster, but has yet to be attempted.
@@jimtaylor294 Imagine spooling up the gas turbines at 570 km/h, after the initial electric motor acceleration. :D I'd like to see a TGV go 700 km/h. That would be even more insane.
@@jimtaylor294 Just a minor correction to an otherwise great comment: You're right about the overhead wires bouncing were they to go much faster, however, TGV sets actually normally run with the front pantograph lowered when on the LGV, nothing unusual about that. (they have HV lines going through the length of the train to make sure both power cars still get full power) I'm pretty sure the shortened length of the train was mostly for power to weight concerns, since they wouldn't need to lug around 8 heavy duplex cars for such a speed test. As an aside, this particular set was actually demoing the powered bogies for the AGV, which means unlike a normal TGV, this set had drive on all of its axles!
An absolute recognition to those who laid those incredible tracks. Their almost perfect setting is the only thing keeping that train from becoming a 600 km/h fireball. And that catenary?, at 574 km/h? Jesus Christ. AWESOME job for the track engineers, hats absolutely off. Train is a cutie too, but hey, this is 50%-50%.
@@Rammstein45 u can see the pain of that poor pantograph dragging with the catenary .. they said 29kv & 800amps at the end .. so at full load the train had clamped the overhead wire voltage from 31kv to 29kv.& It was making around 30,000hp if i calculate the losses in inverter and motor. Wikipedia says the maximum hp of the train that made the record had 26,300hp so my calculations is a bit off but anyways. & Consumed 19.6mw instead of 24mw which i had calculated by watching this video. 😀
^ ATM aye; though Germany was also doing well re' Nuclear... until their Chancellor made the mad call to axe it all, to secure an alliance with the greens. They now rely in-part on France for power. The UK *would* be doing well re' nuclear... if the hapless politicians weren't knee deep in this net zero nonsense, which ironically is also anti-nuclear... because... quantum... I guess -_- . Then again there's A plan for moduar reactors at least, which might prove promising. Moral of the story: Never underestimate the stupidity of politicians; or concequently, the power of irony.
The point that the crew was making is that while the train is customized - this is not a specialized track - it's a regular track, used daily for regular service. (As I myself pointed out, it's in TSW 2 - as is.) While you can't open it it up THAT far, the portion they used is part of your course in "High Speed Rain" - which is why I want that livery option. And considering that - other than it being Duplex - Liberty is the same train, it becomes why NOT Liberty Duplex?
Between pantograph forces and wind pressure, it’s interesting seeing the catenary poles wobbles after the train passes. I believe wire tension was increased for this test run.
Most interesting; though for context, most of the record attempts made by trains historically were done while pulling a full train of passengers. (I bet SNCF could've charged basically anything they wanted for that [first passengers to experiance 300mph at ground level], had a longer train been possible)
You can do the math based on velocity, energy required to reach that and then the kinetic energy in the system, but all well known. The math is beautiful, the result is pretty ugly!!
And TGB takes you from the center of a city to the center of another city. You waste a lot of time to reach an airport. and once landed, you waste another lot of time driving to your destination.
Think you got something wrong, they used 30kV 700+ amps from the line which is around 21MW Which sounds about right since ICE 3 uses around 8MW at max speed in normal use
Not really, it could have got to atleast 580 km/h or more without problems but they asked the driver to not go beyond 575 because they were reaching the limits of the wheel-rail contact.
These things push 200mph on the daily, get you to Bordeaux from Paris (310mi) faster than flying. Plus they have a bar coach, which is something cars and planes don't have...
It was the equivalent of tuning a car for high performance: Shorter (3 cars instead of 8), more aerodynamic, larger wheels and higher voltage on the catenary. But even without it, a normal TGV can go very fast, especially during tests on a new high-speed line before opening, we're talking of speeds up to 360 km/h. And records-breaking TGVs were accompanied by another normal TGV that towed them to the record zone, then checked the record zone at high-speed to see if the test could be carried or not. For this one, the TGV n°4404 went at 380 km/h for these "high-speed checks", same speed as the first TGV record in 1980.
@@KL53986 They're the only double-decker trains able to go to 300 km/h and beyond in the world, and, for someone who seldom uses these trains to travel, it's really cool to know this.
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@@fallschirmjager0000 I am not from America, but from Eastern Europe. High-speed trains are not a sign of progress, but on the contrary, a sign of the victory of the state and left-wing leadership over human freedom. Appearences are deceiving. The same is the case with other false signs of progress.
@@JoeJohn777 Jealous ? Look at the images in the video above. A madly running train ready to derail through an almost desert landscape. Who can be envious of something like thay ? When will people learn to stop seeing the good and the progress where their opposite is ?
@@marianl8718high speed train can increase the movement of goods and people, boost the economy, and makes the time more efficient. Freedom? I'd rather to be organized but I'm rich instead of free but poor
260km/h was the speed of the original TGV. These trains are only ever going to go faster - the new TGV M sets coming online this year will push 350km/h, HS2 in the UK (whenever that's finished) will push 360km/h.
Can we provide 100% safety to the fellow passengers at this awesome speed-Is it a sense of development knowingly causing genocide for mere and fake saving of time. Can we not think,plan or project anything good for our posterities.
In france it happened only 4 times in history (92, 93, 2000 and 2015) and it was fatal only once. It was due to the pilot, and the dead are technicians and engineers that were testing a new trails. So it's pretty safe IMO.
High speed trains are very safe when on high speed lines, their design prevents wagons from coming loose and going all over the place, the only fatal accident is due to a driver who took his children away on a test and which crossed a curve on an ordinary track at an excessively high speed, the train fell off the bridge.
I love that driver. Rolling off the figures, very professionally, then after they pass 500kph, suddenly it is "come on, baby!" Wonderful stuff.
yeah ,same
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I'll Never Forget This Record!
I always remember this record every April 3rd.
5:16 "allez ma puce, on y va"..j'adore le zen du skipper.
I love that livery - put THAT on a production Duplex!
I think the engineers & technicians were really proud after this speed record.
This record still stands!
It still stands partially due to being on the upper limit of what overhead wires can take.
(much faster and they would start to boune around, damaging themselves and the pantograph; this's one reason the train was shorter than in regular service, and lowered one of its pantographs)
A train running off internal batteries for the run or a different power source (like gas turbines) could go faster, but has yet to be attempted.
@@jimtaylor294 Imagine spooling up the gas turbines at 570 km/h, after the initial electric motor acceleration. :D I'd like to see a TGV go 700 km/h. That would be even more insane.
@@jimtaylor294 Just a minor correction to an otherwise great comment: You're right about the overhead wires bouncing were they to go much faster, however, TGV sets actually normally run with the front pantograph lowered when on the LGV, nothing unusual about that. (they have HV lines going through the length of the train to make sure both power cars still get full power) I'm pretty sure the shortened length of the train was mostly for power to weight concerns, since they wouldn't need to lug around 8 heavy duplex cars for such a speed test.
As an aside, this particular set was actually demoing the powered bogies for the AGV, which means unlike a normal TGV, this set had drive on all of its axles!
@@PopFizzelz My thanks for the additional context and information, especially on the topic of power distribution.
An absolute recognition to those who laid those incredible tracks. Their almost perfect setting is the only thing keeping that train from becoming a 600 km/h fireball. And that catenary?, at 574 km/h? Jesus Christ. AWESOME job for the track engineers, hats absolutely off. Train is a cutie too, but hey, this is 50%-50%.
it has been 16 YEARS after this record was set.
I know. The TGV is my favorite high speed train
the train was pulling 2,40,00,000w at peak speed! ...
Imagine the heat!
@@Rammstein45 u can see the pain of that poor pantograph dragging with the catenary .. they said 29kv & 800amps at the end .. so at full load the train had clamped the overhead wire voltage from 31kv to 29kv.& It was making around 30,000hp if i calculate the losses in inverter and motor. Wikipedia says the maximum hp of the train that made the record had 26,300hp so my calculations is a bit off but anyways. & Consumed 19.6mw instead of 24mw which i had calculated by watching this video. 😀
@@KuntalGhosh you should work SNCF I think :)
And around 75% of that comes from non-polluting nuclear power, of which France is also the leader.
^ ATM aye; though Germany was also doing well re' Nuclear... until their Chancellor made the mad call to axe it all, to secure an alliance with the greens. They now rely in-part on France for power.
The UK *would* be doing well re' nuclear... if the hapless politicians weren't knee deep in this net zero nonsense, which ironically is also anti-nuclear... because... quantum... I guess -_- .
Then again there's A plan for moduar reactors at least, which might prove promising.
Moral of the story: Never underestimate the stupidity of politicians; or concequently, the power of irony.
4.15 to 4:20 "quatre-zero-zero" 400 kmh and that UPHILL.!
フランスTGVかっこいいです。時速574.8kmhの迫力が見ていて伝わります。秒速160m頑張って下さいね‼️最後にありがとうございました‼️
The point that the crew was making is that while the train is customized - this is not a specialized track - it's a regular track, used daily for regular service. (As I myself pointed out, it's in TSW 2 - as is.) While you can't open it it up THAT far, the portion they used is part of your course in "High Speed Rain" - which is why I want that livery option. And considering that - other than it being Duplex - Liberty is the same train, it becomes why NOT Liberty Duplex?
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This literally makes no sense whatsoever 💀
high speed rain would tear you apart the second you step outside though
This route is not in Train Sun World 2. The route you’re thinking of is the LGV Méditerranée. The tests were carried out on the LGV Est.
359.65mph for those of us in the states.
No insects were harmed in the breaking of this world record.
Even more amazing is that it reached 515 km/h in 1990 .34 years ago.!!
TGV the french proud, amazing train
Des grands professionnels !!! Bravo 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@2:17 he’s saying either saying a prayer, meditating, deep breathing or a combination of the 3
海外の鉄道もすごいんですね。最後にありがとうございました。
Between pantograph forces and wind pressure, it’s interesting seeing the catenary poles wobbles after the train passes.
I believe wire tension was increased for this test run.
29.9kV and 710A makes 21.2 Megawatt
but once accelerated, you can do the 80km left just with inertia.
First TGV, still looks better than all new bullet trains It looks like - Lamborgini
Most interesting; though for context, most of the record attempts made by trains historically were done while pulling a full train of passengers.
(I bet SNCF could've charged basically anything they wanted for that [first passengers to experiance 300mph at ground level], had a longer train been possible)
technicaly, with all the equipement, engineers, and staff from Alstom and the SNCF riding along in the train, it WAS running at full capacity
Just imagine the carnage if it de-rails at that speed.
There will be none.. Everything vaporized
You can do the math based on velocity, energy required to reach that and then the kinetic energy in the system, but all well known. The math is beautiful, the result is pretty ugly!!
@@blackfeet6820 Just said it.. But it will be vaporized if it was traveling at orbital velocities.. Like 28,000 Kmph...
Every couple of years the TGV crashes into a tractor or a bike that didn't get off the line in time. But they only do it at 300kph....no big deal.
@@imho2278 no big deal run on viaducts only
O TGV Quebrou O Maior Recorde De Velocidade😮
I am sometimes travelling in Germany. The maximum speed there is 300 km/h and no kidding, that‘s the maximum in which I can feel safe…
Now pull the handbrake and do a 180
Multi track drifting
*Nani?!*
16 years ago today
Just epic. Planes are so boring.
And TGB takes you from the center of a city to the center of another city. You waste a lot of time to reach an airport. and once landed, you waste another lot of time driving to your destination.
Tgv IS best
3:28 that sound
600v on the line, stepped down to multiple dc motors. Lotsa amps!
Think you got something wrong, they used 30kV 700+ amps from the line which is around 21MW
Which sounds about right since ICE 3 uses around 8MW at max speed in normal use
French Steel
Se imaginan si el TGV alcanzara los 515 km/h en velocidad operativa???
5:12 URF ...
"800 amps-"
"FOUR EIGHT FIVE."
Put at 1.5x and it’s the ground version of an average commercial jet liner
Thats half way to 1000
No 500
1,000kph though, not 1,000mph... which is considerably faster ^_^ .
(only a couple of Speed Record Cars have gone that fast at ground level)
Holy shit!
I want an HO model of this thing.
Me too. I drive this train in Open Rails too though.
@@foxxthy6637 well I have a video of it on my channel. It is the in service version of the train.
Very Croissant
800 amps is a ludicrous amount, a little more and the stators would have fused with the rotors.
Not really, it could have got to atleast 580 km/h or more without problems but they asked the driver to not go beyond 575 because they were reaching the limits of the wheel-rail contact.
looks like a long bus!
357.8 mph Wow so Fast
時速578キロ出すとは快適性と安全性を考えずに速度だけを求める命知らずと言うんだよ😱
Those little wheels. I’d never get in that. I’m still amazed at how trains don’t constantly derail
These things push 200mph on the daily, get you to Bordeaux from Paris (310mi) faster than flying. Plus they have a bar coach, which is something cars and planes don't have...
And this TGC train managed this because it was shorter.
It was the equivalent of tuning a car for high performance: Shorter (3 cars instead of 8), more aerodynamic, larger wheels and higher voltage on the catenary.
But even without it, a normal TGV can go very fast, especially during tests on a new high-speed line before opening, we're talking of speeds up to 360 km/h.
And records-breaking TGVs were accompanied by another normal TGV that towed them to the record zone, then checked the record zone at high-speed to see if the test could be carried or not. For this one, the TGV n°4404 went at 380 km/h for these "high-speed checks", same speed as the first TGV record in 1980.
@@nm_attardés TGV are among the fastest High Speed Trains made even better because they are Double Decker High Speed Express Trains
@@KL53986 They're the only double-decker trains able to go to 300 km/h and beyond in the world, and, for someone who seldom uses these trains to travel, it's really cool to know this.
Alguem sabe o nome da música?Grato
Timeline
WHY ??
Because we can
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FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK hahahaha amazing!!
French quality
They should have worn oxygen masks just be that much cooler.
Americans can't do that!
Americans don't even HAVE to do that ! The backward nations are precisely those that have such high-speed trains !
@@fallschirmjager0000 I am not from America, but from Eastern Europe. High-speed trains are not a sign of progress, but on the contrary, a sign of the victory of the state and left-wing leadership over human freedom. Appearences are deceiving. The same is the case with other false signs of progress.
@@marianl8718 LOL dont be jealous !
@@JoeJohn777 Jealous ? Look at the images in the video above. A madly running train ready to derail through an almost desert landscape. Who can be envious of something like thay ? When will people learn to stop seeing the good and the progress where their opposite is ?
@@marianl8718high speed train can increase the movement of goods and people, boost the economy, and makes the time more efficient. Freedom? I'd rather to be organized but I'm rich instead of free but poor
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vivre le Roi!!!
agv treni bu
Insane speed!. No, I am not getting on board on this train. No need of flying this fast. IMO 200km/hr is enough.
The standard speed for the tgv whith People inside is 320 km per hour
you can't buy time.
260km/h was the speed of the original TGV. These trains are only ever going to go faster - the new TGV M sets coming online this year will push 350km/h, HS2 in the UK (whenever that's finished) will push 360km/h.
@@francisuster1821 And it's super smooth !
5:33 WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
🤤🥲
かなり無理した・・・😂
No need to add music.
There Is! Because The Record Was So Epic!
I'm just thinking about how much fuel it has consumed during this test!
No. The train is all electric
@@rtrfan7398 😄 I do know. Just kidding, bro.
@@JetFalcon oh
@@JetFalcon Actually, you are correct because electricity comes from fuel, so this train did use a lot of fuel but not directly 😂
@@rtrfan7398 And how do you produce electricity for this train to run on electricity? 🤓 By burning fuel 😅
Can we provide 100% safety to the fellow passengers at this awesome speed-Is it a sense of development knowingly causing genocide for mere and fake saving of time. Can we not think,plan or project anything good for our posterities.
574kph was a world record, the commercial speed for these trains is 320kph
In france it happened only 4 times in history (92, 93, 2000 and 2015) and it was fatal only once. It was due to the pilot, and the dead are technicians and engineers that were testing a new trails.
So it's pretty safe IMO.
High speed trains are very safe when on high speed lines, their design prevents wagons from coming loose and going all over the place, the only fatal accident is due to a driver who took his children away on a test and which crossed a curve on an ordinary track at an excessively high speed, the train fell off the bridge.
what are you babbling on about? it's not 100% safe to be alive in the first place. Stupid comment.
So planes are safer as they can't derail? Riiiiight....
Sans.voiuageure
tgv