@@GeoffInfield Yes, I checked his work. I used my eyes to watch his videos, which gave me, irrefutable proof that there is no curve & the earth is flat. I WILL NOT be clicking on your link as I do not need convincing that the Earth is a spinning ball. I don't know what it is going to take for dummies like you to wake up to the FACT that you have been lied to. & that's as simple as it is & of course you would try to smear & slander JTolan as he has taken you out of your comfort zone with your fantasy of space & a spinning ball that has been drummed into you all your life! Wake up & get a life!
@@musicalperformances5790 sorry MP, GI's post got deleted from a different view I have of all the comments. I noticed he was out of control and posting all over the comments section, the same paragraph, over, and over, and over, at least 10 times, obviously trying to get noticed and stir up trouble, so I clicked delete, delete, delete .... delete. I left one or two of his paragraphs somewhere buried in here.
@@jtolanmedia1 No problem JT, you can go on ahead & delete my reply & finish tidying up your comments. Yes, that guy was desperate to hold on to his ball earth.
@@musicalperformances5790 I see that you commented on JT's last community post before he deleted it. Did you try to calculate the height of the mountain using the method that he suggested with the water tanks? It comes out to over 10000' ( which is obviously why he deleted the post). Just like if you use the other method he suggested with the turbines but use the hub height of the correct turbine. So my question to you is - if every time that JT makes a video and it shows that the Earth is a sphere, does that mean it's a sphere or do you think he's doctoring his images to match the sphere?
By Your angle measurement I calculate San Jacinto elevation 10,834 ft. Marvelous angle measurement!!! Your zenith angle 83-07-23, plus 0-00-54 for refraction, corrected geometric angle: 83-08-17 (87.1381) The distance is more precisely 14.973 miles cos(87.1381)(79057)=9445 ft Plus curvature +147 ft Plus observer elev 1242 Elevation 10,834 ft. Fantastic confirmation of curvature. I also used a geodetic calculator available online the National Geodetic Survey and was impressed with the angle. By inverse calculation against the WGS84 ellipsoid the angle was only 1-2 arcseconds off. Finally a proper instrument and verified curvature.
I think JTolan is trollin' FE and laughing. Notice how his fans never ask him if he took perspective into account or angular size or any of the other goofy gibberish they pester me, you and others that share legitimate measurements.
I live in Kansas, also.. the state may be flatter than a pancake, but it slopes up from 900' above sea level at Kansas City to around 3700' above sea level at Goodland, near the Colorado border. Kansas is one massive, tilted, flat plane. It's flat, but it's not level. I wish we were closer to massive bodies of water, so testing the flatness of long distances over water would be easier to do. I hope to shoot from shore to shore across Waconda Lake (6.1 miles) or Tuttle Creek Reservoir (14.25 miles) someday.
I have in plan taking pictures of an island 110km further away from where I live. Actually I have a few islands to focus on, and the whole coast of Africa too. Iam really curious what I would see. I just wonder what kind of set up I need to buy to start all this.
1) Take two ships to the equator. 2) Have one ship head east 100 miles and the other west 100 miles. 3) Then have both ships head south 100 miles. 4) Now measure the distance between the two ships. If the ships are closer together than the original 200 miles it would indicate GLOBE. If they are further apart than the original 200 miles it would indicate NO GLOBE. cheers :)
JT if you had only accounted for refraction, and use the more accurate straight line distance, and cosine(corrected zenith angle), the only difference in elevation by your measurement IS 8 inches per mi^2. Very nice instrument. And correct averaging of D/R readings. Once again curvature demonstrated.
Did he average for face-right and face-left readings? He measured both and found a difference of 0.018 degrees. But then it looks like he just used his "Reverse" reading uncorrected for doing the calculations. I re-worked his calculations exactly, and after applying 8 inches per mile squared and a refraction of 1 degree per 932 miles, he was within 1 foot. I'm impressed, most flat earther's don't take the time to level a theodolite that carefully. But yeah he totally confirmed the globe. At least to within one foot, which aint half bad at nearly 15 miles!
fromjesse He described averaging D/R I have NO doubt in that. Here’s what I sent to him drive.google.com/file/d/1uqT6Y1Ua1oHdf5-6lRhrisIKxsMBz0Ps/view?usp=drivesdk Edit “I have no doubt in that “
Love your work John, you inspired me to convert my P900 to full spectrum and since I have made many amazing observations. Thanks for sharing your work, looking forward to part 2.
14:39 - Google is showing you a typo on a tourism site. The "blades" alone are 150 ft long. The height of the turbine hub is much higher (otherwise the blade would hit the ground). Also the base of the mountain is more like 900 ft, and the Mt San Jacinto peak is a little higher up the mountain from where you took it. So there are a few maths mistakes to correct there.
It's pretty normal for this guy to get landmarks wrong so nothing new there. I do like the hidden in plain sight incorrect height of the turbines though which his following haven't picked up on.
the blades on the windmill I measured are not 150' long they would hit the ground and that is not the case as you can see in the photos. I measured to the generator hub at 150' +/- 1 ft. I trust my laser range finder. if you want to convince yourself go to google maps and measure the horizontal distance between the windmills, I get about 319 feet, then look at the blades they don't come that close to each other, it would be a bad design for a wind mill farm. Speaking about the horizontal dimension, I did calculate angles based on the horizontal dimension (example spacing between the windmills adjusted for the look angle (about 40 deg, do sin(40) * 319 = 205) and from the image this distance is slightly longer then spacing between the yellow lines, however, it is not good practice to mix horizontal and vertical measurements, because refraction occurs primarily in the vertical dimension.
@@jtolanmedia1 I'm just saying that your source of information or your measurements might be inaccurate. It's worth double checking because your conclusion rests on that turbine height being accurate. I'd expect you to do the same for me :) At the end of the day "someone" is going to find that information. It is probably best that you do it first ;)
@@AndrewEddie oh, about the base of the mountain you are correct, I had looked around Palm Springs and that's where it is 500 ft, but it is closer to 800 or 900 the farther right we look, good catch. The calculations are approximate anyway, give or take 500 feet, but I do appreciate your comment.
JT a question. Why did you tilt the instrument toward the mountain? At 20:17 you show the instrument leaned toward the mountain due to your interpretation of gravity deflection by the mountain. However, your instrument is oriented (leveled) perpendicular to gravity. ie: perpendicular to plumb. Nadir is drawn toward the mountain, zenith is away from the mass of the mountains. If you held a plumb bob, the mass would be drawn toward the mountain from your hand, or the point that the plumb hangs from. Which would return a zenith that points away from the mountain SLIGHTLY. VERY SLIGHTLY. On the order of arcseconds. Which reduces the vertical angle toward the mountain. ???
@Gary Thistle Gary, I will not insult you but rather encourage you to enter into the world of 'critical thinking'. There are all kinds of 'holes' with any current flat earth model, I will agree 100% that there are many things that are not accounted for. However, and this is huge, I will make the claim that I have zero proof that the earth is flat while at the same time make the statement that there is also zero proof of curvature as well as zero proof of moment. We live in a realm, one in which some people can be tricked into believing one thing and others are tricked into believing another and so there is conflict instead of cooperation. The two sides should and easily could come together with a common goal of coming up with the truth. The evidence piling up that we do not live on a spinning ball is overwhelming and my hunch you do not have the ability to put your fragile ego down for half a second and challenge some of the BS spewed by your space boy fan clubs, they get butt hurt faster than anyone when you challenge the impossibility of even going to the moon let alone claiming to have done it 50 years ago and just never bothered to go back.
@@crimsonking7955 Do you realize that when he measured with his theodolite, he measured the curve? That missing 100+ feet he found was the expected globe model horizon dip due to the curve of the earth's surface over ~15 miles.
@@crimsonking7955 "The evidence piling up that we do not live on a spinning ball is overwhelming" It is? I've been watching flat earth videos on YT for over 6 years now and, whilst I've seen plenty of claims based on ignorance I've seen no actual evidence that contradicts the standard model. Perhaps you'd like to say what you regard as "evidence"?
Hi! I think, that your measurements is wrong. 6:00 acording your green grid, angle 20 mrad is 325 pixels height, Hotel Marina del Rey Marriott (33.982211, -118.459732) is 48 pixels height. (0.020 rad*48/325)*20 mi*5280(foots per mi)=312 foots. 34 foots per floor? Realy? Real height of hotel is 85 foots. And full green grid is 85/312*20=5.4 mrad. (sorry for my english)
Hi, paused this at 2:40 to save it to my hard drive, just in case it disappears...hey, hope you are well, and as always, thanks for sharing your work and findings with us.
@@nathanyamaha465 I use a site called savefrom.net, but it causes a window to some advertisement that I have to close...and if you pick MP4 360 instead of 720, it opens up to play the video instead of downloading it, but when it opens up the video to play, there is a place in the viewer's right corner that you can click on where you can select download, then it downloads...it works, but just has a bunch of annoying steps that they don't teach you how to do to make it finally save the video...I've never tried the site that Reefer Madness down below is suggesting, but that one might be easier to use...
@@jtolanmedia1 How many more times does roohif need to hand your arse to you before you actually admit that you didn't measure anything and you are just playing games to make things fit your fantasy?
@@jtolanmedia1 Are you related by any chance to the Wigan Wonderer Anthony Riley. He is another fool that thinks he has proven something...except he hasn't and can't and never will. There is a reason and that is demonstrated by all the extraterrestrial imaging and photography that has gone on as far back as the 1930's that shows exactly the shape of the earth. And it ain't flat.
You could offer photographs of these stunning images with that camera and filter. People would buy, and you could offset the cost for all the great work you do. What great images for framing!
VIDEO 100%....................AUDIO music 100%....VOICE varies 100% to 70%. I so look forward to your videos and your descriptions! It is absolutely amazing! Thank you for your time and knowledge to correct a lie we have been fed about a round spinning globe Earth!
charter a helicopter flight to the top of the mountain for confirmation, see what the altimeter in the helicopter shows for hight. Excellent video and Analysis, thanks so much.
You're completely sure the wind turbines are on ground at the same height as the Desert Hot Springs resort? Completely sure? As a matter of fact, the same Google maps gives Desert Hot Springs at about 328m above sea level, while Garnet, just the other side of the Christopher Columbus Transcontinental Freeway from the wind turbines beside Indian Canyon Drive as shown in your video, is at about 243m. That's 85m different. You haven't taken proper account either of an accurate height for the mountain's base (and its claimed height is above sea level, not valley floor) so your result is not reliable. Sorry!
Just a comment on the background music.. can you lower the music volume so we can hear your comments more easily.. when the music plays it is usually too loud.. thanks and keep up your great contribution.. cheers.
Yea, it scared the crap outta me twice, then I lowered my volume, then I couldn't hear him speak, so I turned it back up, guess what? Another music jump scare!
😆 Hearing your voice I just realized I missed that great, soothing, reassuring voice. ✊🏾👍🏾 A star truther in my eyes. Your a certainly appreciated brother.
@@jtolanmedia1 Prease provide me with a map of the flat earth that can be used to navigate on or give me a link to a map that conforms to reallity. I have a ship in Whangarei (NZ) and need to get to Guayaquil ( Equador). How far is that and how many days is that at 12 Knots?? How much fuel do I need for that journey at 10 ton/h The crew needs food for that time and they don't deliver pizza in the middle of the paciffic How much do I need for 20 persons???
@@boterlettersukkel Data = data and can be used and interpreted by anybody. Many data are gathered and besides that some things are not what the mass thinks they are. For example 'satellite' means just 'attendant' and doesn't have to be far far away as in flying in illusive 'outer space'. Orbit = circling and denotes flat in itself. Etc.
I have known the world is flat my entire life. Standing on the eastern shores of Lake Michigan and being able to see the buildings in Downtown Chicago from a 120 miles away on a clear day. If the the Earth was a sphere that would be impossible. With the curvature of the Earth the apex would be approximately 4800ft the buildings would need to over 2 miles in height
Prease provide me with a map of the flat earth that can be used to navigate on or give me a link to a map that conforms to reallity. I have a ship in Whangarei (NZ) and need to get to Guayaquil ( Equador). How far is that and how many days is that at 12 Knots?? How much fuel do I need for that journey at 10 ton/h The crew needs food for that time and they don't deliver pizza in the middle of the paciffic How much do I need for 20 persons???
hi matthew, here I use a Sony a6000 that has been converted to 830nm infrared. the resolution is 24 MP and the focal length (35 mm equivalent) is reported as 111mm (I have a very good zoom lens on it, objective diameter of 72mm, love that lens very much f/4), The clip by the pool was from a Sony camcorder converted to full spectrum (I personally removed the IR blocking filter from the image sensor)
Thank you! I'm so glad you got a theodolite! It looks like you're using just one of the vertical angle readings, which has an error of 12 feet (0.009 degrees.) Doing the calculations a little more carefully, here's the average between right-face and left-face (forward and reverse) readings: 6.86797 degrees. For anyone interested, the mountain peak seems to be 10813 feet high at 33.814726,-116.679427, and the observation location is 1243 feet at 33.971670,-116.502475 according to google earth. Double checking google earth, the map distance (presumably straight line) 14.85 miles. Thus, using trig, and not accounting for refraction, and using your theodolite reading, the mountain measures to be 10687 feet high: (tan(6.86797 degrees) * 14.85 * 5280)+1243=10687 That's 10813-10687=126 missing feet! JTolan is measuring 126 missing feet of height on the mountain! And guess how many missing feet there should be over 14.85 miles on the globe? (8*(14.85^2))/12=147 feet. That's a difference of 147-126=21 feet! If the earth is flat, JTolan's measurement was 126 feet in error. If the earth is a globe, then JTolan's measurement was only 21 feet in error. But wait, we haven't accounted for refraction yet! The globe model says there should be 21 more missing feet than JTolan measured. Standard refraction is 1 degree per 932 miles: tan(14.85/932 degrees)*14.85*5280=22! Folks, standard refraction for 14.85 miles is 22 feet. In other words, JTolan's reading was within 1 foot of the globe model. *One foot! One lousy foot!* Even without refraction he was still within 21 feet of the globe model shape. But if the earth is flat, his error was over a hundred feet! Earth is definitely curved. You measured it perfectly my friend! Please do more measurements with that theodolite. Do mountains from different distances. Plot it on a chart. Go back to the aqueduct. I think you'll find that 8 inches per mile squared is the rule.
@@hulkgreen6786 No my friend, right in the video he shows @18:15 in green text on the right top that his forward and reverse measurements were different by 0.018 degrees. What you don't know is that a theodolite has a small error and you compensate for it by taking a measurement, then turning the swivel head around and flipping the eyepiece over and then taking the same measurement again, then you average the two readings, and that gives you a true reading. In his case, the error was +0.009 degrees one way and -0.009 degrees the other way. 0.009 degrees at 14.87 miles is a vertical error of 12 feet. I realize you never finished high school math, and it's OK, a lot of people don't - in fact I didn't - but I did learn about tangent and multiplication and 0.009 degrees is definitely 12 feet 4 inches at 14.87 miles. Just put into google and search "tangent(0.009 degrees) * 14.87 miles in feet" If you want to learn more how to use a theodolite, search youtube and watch videos.
fromjesse always throwing abuse in your words do you , globers dilemma !!!! Go to the same location and prove we live on a globe by doing some experiments otherwise 🤐
@@hulkgreen6786 I don't need to go to that resort with my theodolite because JTolan just did it with his and proved it's a globe. But I've done numerous measurements around my area with a theodolite, and also found it's a globe here: ruclips.net/video/ELbFpskgBMs/видео.html
JTolan Media1 Thank you, Bud !! You’re the man. I want to send you a book if I could get an email. Very important stuff. It would be a free gift. My pleasure. Or, on Amazon books the title is “The Only True God” by Eric H.H. Chan. This was almost as important as FE to me. The sky is opening up it’s secrets.
i live in europa in a square free standing house and the same wall , where in the summer the early sun shines on, also in the evening the sun shines on, while during the day the second, third, and fourth wall had the sun. so almost three quartels of a circle. TO ACHIEVE THIS WITH A BALL, YOU MUST WOBBLE THE BALL TREMENDOUSLY. SO IN A THREE DIMENSIONAL MODEL, THIS IS PRACTICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.
Here are the azimuths of the rise and set of the Sun for three European city on June 21st 2020: (from timeanddate.com) Madrid: 58° 302° Change in azimuth = 244° Vienna: 52° 308° Change in azimuth = 256° Berlin: 48° 312° Change in azimuth = 264° The wall that you get the Sun shining on in the morning and evening is facing roughly North. The azimuths of the rising Sun is North of East and the azimuth of the setting Sun is North of West. That is why your North wall is illuminated in the morning and evening. You do know, I hope, that all the predictions of timeanddate.com are based on the globe/heliocentric system. You can verify their predictions yourself. You can even make these calculations yourself without timeanddate.com if you know how. I can do it. Sailors have been doing it for hundreds of years. You don't need to wobble GLOBE Earth, daily rotation and yearly orbit around the Sun explains it all. Flat earth doesn't cut it.
hey Jtolan, Thanks for your efforts, i enjoy your videos very much! One thing i didn't understand is the mountain height being off from google, aren't the heights normally measured from sea level and not from the ground base? In this case it could explain the difference you found... Appreciate it if you could clarify.
I heard that's a good camera, I looked through the view finder of a p900 a while back and it did not compare with my Sony camera, but then Sony has some horrible view finders in the lower priced cameras. We get what we pay for. My new Sony alpha 7R iii is just so awesome, (full frame, high sensitivity) and I can change the lenses on it. For video and zoom capability I like a good old fashion camcorder, but p1000 does have impressive specs.
Prease provide me with a map of the flat earth that can be used to navigate on or give me a link to a map that conforms to reallity. I have a ship in Whangarei (NZ) and need to get to Guayaquil ( Equador). How far is that and how many days is that at 12 Knots?? How much fuel do I need for that journey at 10 ton/h The crew needs food for that time and they don't deliver pizza in the middle of the paciffic How much do I need for 20 persons???
His ‘analysis’ is incredible. He omitted the dimensions of the earth and got the wrong answer. The vertical angle is accurate. And I had difficulty calculating the correct elevation with his measurement.
Frankie and Benjy Mouse find the book of the sun on RUclips he claims he has the flatearth map I am sure he will give it to you now go get more flat earth proof good luck
Yes the gravity anomaly is very small. In Palm Desert the N/S direction the deflection is -0.0039 deg. In the E/W direction the deflection is 0.0005 deg.
@@godsbeautifulflatearth A puny insignificant god would make a flat earth. The all powerful god creates a solar solar system and a universe on a grand scale. And gave us tools and intellect to observe it.
@JTolan 5:59. When you create your vertical scale why do you assume the height of Chino Hills can be measured from the shoreline? That presumes a flat Earth. After all, Chino Hills is some 40 miles inland from that beach you're measuring off of. IF the Earth is curved (which it may be) the base of the hills could be much lower than the beach, being hidden by the curve. You haven't yet proven a Flat Earth at this stage in your observation. So you should really consider that possibility. Since the apartment tower a little to the left can easily be seen over its entire height and its height is known (200 ft) that would be a more objective choice for making a reliable vertical scale. When doing scientific observations we should be making an effort to remain as objective as possible. The choice of Chino Hills for your scale is controversial. The choice of the apartment tower would not be, and thus your observation and measurement would have more validity. For reference, the apartment tower is located on Via Dolce, just south of W Washington Blvd in Marina Del Rey and can be easily found on Google Earth.
Hi all you flaties, Mr T thankyou so much for your input and sombre and methodical analysis, I love to read the comments and one of MR Ts comments caught my eye so I will repost here.
I don't think it's gravitonal, it doesn't exist. I think it is more likely magnetic distortion. We live in a flat, enclosed, motionless, and last but most importantly created environment.
@@IndyChris66 - Here, theory of magnetism: www.worldscientific.com/worldscibooks/10.1142/8994 www.tpub.com/neets/book1/chapter1/1h.htm www.le.ac.uk/se/centres/sci/selfstudy/mam5.htm Ooops! A scientific theory is not an hypothesis, it's the best we know about a particular subject. Theory of magnetism and theory of gravity.
so, in my opinion, all light is attracted to the magnetic pull of earth, creating a very low perspective of distant objects, so without a piece of string, attached at sea level, we can never be sure how high we are, even radar and radiowaves could be distorted and attracted, we would never know.
that's right, our measuring stick can be bent, all we can tell is the relative reality, but there are sensors that can pick up the curved space time around us, keep watching my friend, all will be revealed!
I love your work but I am also a little bit confused. Based on my research if the Earth is flat, as much evidence shows, then gravity as we have been told cannot be true. However, there could be a similar phenomena that causes objects to fall towards the ground due to the inconsistent electro-magnetic field of earth. Could that also bend the space-time ? I was convinced, that space and time has no actual fabric which could be bent. Could you please elaborate on your gravitational theory?
Loving your work JT, phenomenal stuff once again, I for one cannot wait for part 2! Nice touch too putting the reflection of the astronaut on the moon with the UFO in your sun-glasses! Love what you are bringing to the people, keep it up, but more importantly keep safe!
You are THE FE cinematographer! I would very much like to include footage from this video in a new music video . Please let me know if this is ok. Thanks and can't wait for part 2. 😎
Just wanted to pass this on to you. I searched on Google "height of wind turbines near desert springs California". This was the result: Hub height 160 ft (49 m)(max)
I just came from a channel called roohif who makes the counter claim that you got the turbine measurements wrong. I watched your video and don't understand how you first estimate the mountain to be 6,500 ft, then use a theodolite and get a measurement that is within 100 ft of the official elevation of 10,694 ft but next claim that gravitational field variations caused the theodolite to read too high? Gravity? I thought you were a flat earther but what am I to think after you claim gravity is real?
It's our weight.. we are not a feather ^^ //Gravity cannot effect me. I'm not mad out of metal. Blessings the earth is flat. God loves us all. And everything loves us. It's no believe it's real. And raise you vibes to be a great human to all others :) see ya. We are everything
hi, see my top comment that I pinned, that might answer your question. I'm a flat earth who believes in gravity, we should all agree on the observables, gravity is the force that pulls objects down, has a magnitude and direction and these properties vary over the surface of the earth. keep watching ...
@@jtolanmedia1 JTolan: I guess you believe in earth attraction (which can also be explained as a gradient of the buoyancy force, thus making the concept of earth magnetism redundant - not sure aboit it yet). Gravity is an attractuon between two masses, which has never been proven (university professors cannot replicate the Cavendish experiment). All the best.
@@johnnyz2316 Literally hundreds of experiments since Cavendish. Don't believe other Flat Earthers that are too lazy to look: Torsion balance J. H. Gundlach and S. M. Merkowitz, “Measurement of Newton’s constant using a torsion balance with angular acceleration feedback,” Phys. Rev. Lett. 85, 2869-2872 (2000). Free-fall gravimeter J. P. Schwarz, D. S. Robertson, T. M. Niebauer, and J. E. Faller, “A free-fall determination of the Newtonian constant of gravity,” Science 282, 2230-2234 (1998). Pendulum H. V. Parks and J. E. Faller, “Simple pendulum determination of the gravitational constant,” Phys. Rev. Lett. 105(11), 110801 (2010). Optically trapped nanospheres Ranjit G., Mark M., Casey K., & Geraci, A. A., Zeptonewton force sensing with nanospheres in an optical lattice, Physical Review A. 93. 10.1103/PhysRevA.93.053801 (2016). Atom interferometry Xu, V., Jaffe, M., Panda, Cristian, D.Kristensen, Sofus L., Clark, L. & Mu}ler, H., Probing gravity by holding atoms for 20 seconds, Science 08 Nov 2019, Vol. 366, Issue 6466, pp. 745-749 (2019).
I miss My Thinking Friends... It gets So lonely When you are the only one you know that Questions....Everything....and asks”Why” and “WHAT IF?”... Never be satisfied with “Just Because”...…Never..
If the Moon is emitting 'cold moonlight' it should be invisible in infrared. This would be a good eggsperiment. I Wonder why jtolan hasn't done this yet...??
From the website of the Palmsprings windmills: "The largest of these windmills stands 328 feet tall with blades half the length of an American football field (150 feet)."
I have in plan taking pictures of an island 110km further away from where I live. Actually I have a few islands to focus on, and the whole coast of Africa too. Iam really curious what I would see. I just wonder what kind of set up I need to buy to start all this.
Rumour has it that pilots and mountaineers don't rely on their technical instruments anymore but ask JTolan instead despite him not mentioning one viewer altitude throughout this whole video.
Once again, you're using infrared as if it's something new, but this imaging technology has been used for many decades in remote sensing and aerial photogrammetry to make maps. I've asked you before, but you never respond to my question to find out if you have compared your results to the published topographic maps to notice that you're not sharing anything new or unique, ie, you're photography is confirming all the old surveying measurements made to create all the maps that depict all those land features ... For yours and the convenience of the others following along here, you can easily download these published maps from this link - Topographic Maps, Nautical Charts, Triangulation Diagrams, and Survey Disk Datasheets jessekozlowski.wordpress.com/2020/04/02/topographic-maps-nautical-charts-and-triangulation-diagrams/
Hi Jesse, thanks for the link. and yes I have looked at maps, and yes IR is "old" technology, quite aware of all of this. Keep watching to understand reality ....
@@jtolanmedia1 , keep watching what, you? To understand reality? No, if you have examined the maps that I gave you the link to download them from, then you have the results produced from the real measurements made by real surveyors observing reality, and your nice photography confirms that reality. You know this, but your fans do not because you're not telling them that truth.
Hi, iam a flat-earther but you can have many Problems when you measure the hight like that. How high is the focal lenght ? ... objekts in the distance getting biggert than the objects in the front and is the measurement of google correct ? The best think would be you measure a distance to the windmill by yourself and look over the Top and just measure the angel where you can see the mounten peak and do the maths for the angle.
keep watching, gravitational measurements actually illustrate we don't live on a globe, I flew a sensitive scale, I'll show work from literature, and what some NASA scientists say, I"m working to open scientific minds that have been brainwashed by the philosophy passed down to us, we must scrutinize everything, souls must be freed from the deception ...
A short lesson of flatlanders! The horizon is the basic indicator of where you live. If you always have the horizon at eye level, even when you are on an airplane, you are already certain that you live in the middle of the earth.
Medi-terranian means middle of earth. Either of the known earth when the naming was done or falsified naming or still denoting middle of earth. Either way it cannot be about a ball surface (unless fakery in any way), because there is no middle on a ball surface.
1) Your pals have been lecturing everybody that gravity doesn't exist. 2) If anybody is capable of exhibiting a map of the flat earth, would it be you? 3) Nothing says BS like "shocking".
@@jtolanmedia1 Nothing under the flat earth 'umbrella' is accurate, you yourself have demonstrated this by making assumptions and basing your whole narrative on those assumptions.
Never mind, the observation location is 277 feet above the base of the tower, so the base of the tower forms a downward slope which is only about 100 feet above sea level by the time it reaches the peak of the mountain.
I don't understand the snow argument yet ('3000 feet down' compared to what?), also not the 'gravitational field' distortion (how does that work on flat earth?). Maybe you can elaborate later? I am a flat surface of earth believer, just try to totally understand this observation with calculations.
Grandioso y exepcional trabajo Sr. JTolan! Es plana por todas partes, con algunos relieves (como el monte San Jacinto) peró plana al fin !! A pensado en hacer una toma bifocal con dos filtros, uno infrarojo y uno ultravioleta sobre un mismo objeto? Seria maravilloso ver el resultado!! Saludos y fuerte abrazo desde CdMx!!!
Excellent work JTolan, you are very thorough & therefore, your work is irrefutable.......The EARTH is FLAT!!!!
@@GeoffInfield Yes, I checked his work. I used my eyes to watch his videos, which gave me, irrefutable proof that there is no curve & the earth is flat. I WILL NOT be clicking on your link as I do not need convincing that the Earth is a spinning ball. I don't know what it is going to take for dummies like you to wake up to the FACT that you have been lied to. & that's as simple as it is & of course you would try to smear & slander JTolan as he has taken you out of your comfort zone with your fantasy of space & a spinning ball that has been drummed into you all your life! Wake up & get a life!
@@musicalperformances5790 sorry MP, GI's post got deleted from a different view I have of all the comments. I noticed he was out of control and posting all over the comments section, the same paragraph, over, and over, and over, at least 10 times, obviously trying to get noticed and stir up trouble, so I clicked delete, delete, delete .... delete. I left one or two of his paragraphs somewhere buried in here.
@@jtolanmedia1 No problem JT, you can go on ahead & delete my reply & finish tidying up your comments. Yes, that guy was desperate to hold on to his ball earth.
@@musicalperformances5790 earth is a dodecaeder. Research dodecaeder. It merges flat with globe.
@@musicalperformances5790 I see that you commented on JT's last community post before he deleted it. Did you try to calculate the height of the mountain using the method that he suggested with the water tanks? It comes out to over 10000' ( which is obviously why he deleted the post). Just like if you use the other method he suggested with the turbines but use the hub height of the correct turbine. So my question to you is - if every time that JT makes a video and it shows that the Earth is a sphere, does that mean it's a sphere or do you think he's doctoring his images to match the sphere?
By Your angle measurement I calculate San Jacinto elevation 10,834 ft. Marvelous angle measurement!!!
Your zenith angle 83-07-23, plus 0-00-54 for refraction, corrected geometric angle:
83-08-17 (87.1381)
The distance is more precisely 14.973 miles
cos(87.1381)(79057)=9445 ft
Plus curvature +147 ft
Plus observer elev 1242
Elevation 10,834 ft.
Fantastic confirmation of curvature.
I also used a geodetic calculator available online the National Geodetic Survey and was impressed with the angle. By inverse calculation against the WGS84 ellipsoid the angle was only 1-2 arcseconds off.
Finally a proper instrument and verified curvature.
I think JTolan is trollin' FE and laughing. Notice how his fans never ask him if he took perspective into account or angular size or any of the other goofy gibberish they pester me, you and others that share legitimate measurements.
I live in Kansas so... yeah, the Earth is flat! 100%
I live in Kansas, also.. the state may be flatter than a pancake, but it slopes up from 900' above sea level at Kansas City to around 3700' above sea level at Goodland, near the Colorado border. Kansas is one massive, tilted, flat plane. It's flat, but it's not level. I wish we were closer to massive bodies of water, so testing the flatness of long distances over water would be easier to do. I hope to shoot from shore to shore across Waconda Lake (6.1 miles) or Tuttle Creek Reservoir (14.25 miles) someday.
I have in plan taking pictures of an island 110km further away from where I live. Actually I have a few islands to focus on, and the whole coast of Africa too. Iam really curious what I would see. I just wonder what kind of set up I need to buy to start all this.
@Saul Goode gravitational fuktuations did you watch?
The Shape Of "FLAT" Kansas
Published December 29, 2019
ruclips.net/video/X08wQm3-r0Q/видео.html
Saul Goode Curvature is real. I’ve measured it myself. ruclips.net/video/CTjTUw26clQ/видео.html
But isn’t Mt. San Jacinto (and all elevations) height taken from SEA LEVEL? So what was the height at the base of San Jacinto in the desert?
1) Take two ships to the equator. 2) Have one ship head east 100 miles and the other west 100 miles. 3) Then have both ships head south 100 miles. 4) Now measure the distance between the two ships. If the ships are closer together than the original 200 miles it would indicate GLOBE. If they are further apart than the original 200 miles it would indicate NO GLOBE. cheers :)
@-RINZLER- Laser measuring maybe?
JT if you had only accounted for refraction, and use the more accurate straight line distance, and cosine(corrected zenith angle), the only difference in elevation by your measurement IS 8 inches per mi^2.
Very nice instrument. And correct averaging of D/R readings. Once again curvature demonstrated.
Did he average for face-right and face-left readings? He measured both and found a difference of 0.018 degrees. But then it looks like he just used his "Reverse" reading uncorrected for doing the calculations. I re-worked his calculations exactly, and after applying 8 inches per mile squared and a refraction of 1 degree per 932 miles, he was within 1 foot. I'm impressed, most flat earther's don't take the time to level a theodolite that carefully. But yeah he totally confirmed the globe. At least to within one foot, which aint half bad at nearly 15 miles!
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fromjesse
He described averaging D/R I have NO doubt in that.
Here’s what I sent to him
drive.google.com/file/d/1uqT6Y1Ua1oHdf5-6lRhrisIKxsMBz0Ps/view?usp=drivesdk
Edit “I have no doubt in that “
Love your work John, you inspired me to convert my P900 to full spectrum and since I have made many amazing observations. Thanks for sharing your work, looking forward to part 2.
What kind of filters you bought and where??
@@KevinMarchwiak Zomei 850 & 950 nm. I also got an IR/UV blocking filter so I could continue to use the camera like normal. I got them on Amazon.
@@learn2discernreality100 are they put on lens filters or you need to get inside of the lens??
@@KevinMarchwiak They screw on the front of the lens.
@@learn2discernreality100 Did you remove original filter from the sensor? And if yes how difficult it is to do it?
14:39 - Google is showing you a typo on a tourism site. The "blades" alone are 150 ft long. The height of the turbine hub is much higher (otherwise the blade would hit the ground). Also the base of the mountain is more like 900 ft, and the Mt San Jacinto peak is a little higher up the mountain from where you took it.
So there are a few maths mistakes to correct there.
It's pretty normal for this guy to get landmarks wrong so nothing new there. I do like the hidden in plain sight incorrect height of the turbines though which his following haven't picked up on.
the blades on the windmill I measured are not 150' long they would hit the ground and that is not the case as you can see in the photos. I measured to the generator hub at 150' +/- 1 ft. I trust my laser range finder. if you want to convince yourself go to google maps and measure the horizontal distance between the windmills, I get about 319 feet, then look at the blades they don't come that close to each other, it would be a bad design for a wind mill farm. Speaking about the horizontal dimension, I did calculate angles based on the horizontal dimension (example spacing between the windmills adjusted for the look angle (about 40 deg, do sin(40) * 319 = 205) and from the image this distance is slightly longer then spacing between the yellow lines, however, it is not good practice to mix horizontal and vertical measurements, because refraction occurs primarily in the vertical dimension.
@@jtolanmedia1 I'm just saying that your source of information or your measurements might be inaccurate. It's worth double checking because your conclusion rests on that turbine height being accurate. I'd expect you to do the same for me :) At the end of the day "someone" is going to find that information. It is probably best that you do it first ;)
@@AndrewEddie oh, about the base of the mountain you are correct, I had looked around Palm Springs and that's where it is 500 ft, but it is closer to 800 or 900 the farther right we look, good catch. The calculations are approximate anyway, give or take 500 feet, but I do appreciate your comment.
@@jtolanmedia1 I've emailed one of the tourist operators in the area to see if they have any sort of engineering diagram for the windmills.
Bless you brother for your work is making strides in the truth, a new science is born!
Truth will always get mocked by lovers of falsehoods. Truth is always in plain sight. Not everyone with the veil over their eyes will see it.
JT a question. Why did you tilt the instrument toward the mountain?
At 20:17 you show the instrument leaned toward the mountain due to your interpretation of gravity deflection by the mountain.
However, your instrument is oriented (leveled) perpendicular to gravity. ie: perpendicular to plumb. Nadir is drawn toward the mountain, zenith is away from the mass of the mountains. If you held a plumb bob, the mass would be drawn toward the mountain from your hand, or the point that the plumb hangs from. Which would return a zenith that points away from the mountain SLIGHTLY. VERY SLIGHTLY. On the order of arcseconds. Which reduces the vertical angle toward the mountain.
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Praise God for you and may he protect you and your family
God created a GRAND Universe not a Snowglobe
May he protect you from being dumbasses your whole lives. He gave you a brain...... Now use it.
It’s flat folks.
@Gary Thistle Gary, I will not insult you but rather encourage you to enter into the world of 'critical thinking'. There are all kinds of 'holes' with any current flat earth model, I will agree 100% that there are many things that are not accounted for. However, and this is huge, I will make the claim that I have zero proof that the earth is flat while at the same time make the statement that there is also zero proof of curvature as well as zero proof of moment. We live in a realm, one in which some people can be tricked into believing one thing and others are tricked into believing another and so there is conflict instead of cooperation. The two sides should and easily could come together with a common goal of coming up with the truth. The evidence piling up that we do not live on a spinning ball is overwhelming and my hunch you do not have the ability to put your fragile ego down for half a second and challenge some of the BS spewed by your space boy fan clubs, they get butt hurt faster than anyone when you challenge the impossibility of even going to the moon let alone claiming to have done it 50 years ago and just never bothered to go back.
@@crimsonking7955 Do you realize that when he measured with his theodolite, he measured the curve? That missing 100+ feet he found was the expected globe model horizon dip due to the curve of the earth's surface over ~15 miles.
@@crimsonking7955 "The evidence piling up that we do not live on a spinning ball is overwhelming" It is? I've been watching flat earth videos on YT for over 6 years now and, whilst I've seen plenty of claims based on ignorance I've seen no actual evidence that contradicts the standard model. Perhaps you'd like to say what you regard as "evidence"?
Flat as a pancake
Hi! I think, that your measurements is wrong.
6:00 acording your green grid, angle 20 mrad is 325 pixels height,
Hotel Marina del Rey Marriott (33.982211, -118.459732) is 48 pixels height.
(0.020 rad*48/325)*20 mi*5280(foots per mi)=312 foots. 34 foots per floor? Realy?
Real height of hotel is 85 foots. And full green grid is 85/312*20=5.4 mrad.
(sorry for my english)
Hi, paused this at 2:40 to save it to my hard drive, just in case it disappears...hey, hope you are well, and as always, thanks for sharing your work and findings with us.
RobTackettCovers how do you save it?
ytmp3.cc - just choose .mp4 for video before convert
@@nathanyamaha465 I use a site called savefrom.net, but it causes a window to some advertisement that I have to close...and if you pick MP4 360 instead of 720, it opens up to play the video instead of downloading it, but when it opens up the video to play, there is a place in the viewer's right corner that you can click on where you can select download, then it downloads...it works, but just has a bunch of annoying steps that they don't teach you how to do to make it finally save the video...I've never tried the site that Reefer Madness down below is suggesting, but that one might be easier to use...
I saved it to my hard drive too because when JTolan finds out he measured earth's curve to within 1 foot ~15 miles away, he may take it down.
How far were people on beach exactly??
Usually he marks it?? 😁
Face it man I handed you your tail as have many others. Thanks for the globe proof. Ps where is the hull of that sailboat?
keep watching Bob
@@jtolanmedia1 How many more times does roohif need to hand your arse to you before you actually admit that you didn't measure anything and you are just playing games to make things fit your fantasy?
Bob you are asking for the hull of the boat yet you can see the beach which is past the boat a horizon cannot have another horizon
@@jtolanmedia1 Are you related by any chance to the Wigan Wonderer Anthony Riley. He is another fool that thinks he has proven something...except he hasn't and can't and never will. There is a reason and that is demonstrated by all the extraterrestrial imaging and photography that has gone on as far back as the 1930's that shows exactly the shape of the earth. And it ain't flat.
You could offer photographs of these stunning images with that camera and filter. People would buy, and you could offset the cost for all the great work you do. What great images for framing!
VIDEO 100%....................AUDIO music 100%....VOICE varies 100% to 70%. I so look forward to your videos and your descriptions! It is absolutely amazing!
Thank you for your time and knowledge to correct a lie we have been fed about a round spinning globe Earth!
charter a helicopter flight to the top of the mountain for confirmation, see what the altimeter in the helicopter shows for hight. Excellent video and Analysis, thanks so much.
Brutal! Love it. Ha!
And just how does that altimeter work?
@@GeoffInfield One thing: 'flerther' is a non existing thing. You will have to be more convincing and less haughty/ condescending.
@@hongry-life Okay, a flat earther, now do your own research, JTolan is a fraud and liar, if you can't work that out for yourself then....
Walk to the top with a gps and it will tell you the exact height!
You're completely sure the wind turbines are on ground at the same height as the Desert Hot Springs resort? Completely sure? As a matter of fact, the same Google maps gives Desert Hot Springs at about 328m above sea level, while Garnet, just the other side of the Christopher Columbus Transcontinental Freeway from the wind turbines beside Indian Canyon Drive as shown in your video, is at about 243m. That's 85m different. You haven't taken proper account either of an accurate height for the mountain's base (and its claimed height is above sea level, not valley floor) so your result is not reliable. Sorry!
Thankyou so very much 👏🎉😘
I love hands on research.. it's players like you that are bringing real truth to the table. .. . I extend my heartfelt thanks to you for this truth.
I agree, I loved his video's where he measured curvature, amazing.
Great work!!! Is flat 100%
totally flat. all of the terrains...
Just a comment on the background music.. can you lower the music volume so we can hear your comments more easily.. when the music plays it is usually too loud.. thanks and keep up your great contribution.. cheers.
I'll try, iMovie seems to adjust the volume automatically so I trusted it, now I realize it's kind of loud, makes you jump LOL
Yea, it scared the crap outta me twice, then I lowered my volume, then I couldn't hear him speak, so I turned it back up, guess what? Another music jump scare!
@@jtolanmedia1 Thanks.. cheers
WOW AWESOME WORK BROTHER !! MUCH LOVE SPREAD THE WORD OF THE WORLD
The center of the Universe is " Earth"..
We are all there is .
Casey Cummings , I agree Casey!
Is there a center, to an infinite flat plane that extends in all directions?
You right broo
😆
Hearing your voice I just realized I missed that great, soothing, reassuring voice.
✊🏾👍🏾
A star truther in my eyes. Your a certainly appreciated brother.
Haha I used to live in San Bernardino... 20 years ago... ☺️
:)
@@jtolanmedia1 Prease provide me with a map of the flat earth that can be used to navigate on or give me a link to a map that conforms to reallity.
I have a ship in Whangarei (NZ) and need to get to Guayaquil ( Equador).
How far is that and how many days is that at 12 Knots??
How much fuel do I need for that journey at 10 ton/h
The crew needs food for that time and they don't deliver pizza in the middle of the paciffic
How much do I need for 20 persons???
@@boterlettersukkel Data = data and can be used and interpreted by anybody. Many data are gathered and besides that some things are not what the mass thinks they are. For example 'satellite' means just 'attendant' and doesn't have to be far far away as in flying in illusive 'outer space'. Orbit = circling and denotes flat in itself. Etc.
@@hongry-life Your point??
Nothing but Flatness!!!
I have known the world is flat my entire life. Standing on the eastern shores of Lake Michigan and being able to see the buildings in Downtown Chicago from a 120 miles away on a clear day. If the the Earth was a sphere that would be impossible. With the curvature of the Earth the apex would be approximately 4800ft the buildings would need to over 2 miles in height
Prease provide me with a map of the flat earth that can be used to navigate on or give me a link to a map that conforms to reallity.
I have a ship in Whangarei (NZ) and need to get to Guayaquil ( Equador).
How far is that and how many days is that at 12 Knots??
How much fuel do I need for that journey at 10 ton/h
The crew needs food for that time and they don't deliver pizza in the middle of the paciffic
How much do I need for 20 persons???
keep safe my man. did you just video this recently amid the outbreak?
@@zvastian dude you really have to ask? lol
this was filmed last year, now i have time to process my terabytes of data!
You have the best camera ever but your audio sounds like it’s recorded on a high-tech potato. Anyway, this is incredible footage!
I think it's not necessary, if people would truly look into it they will recognize the truth.
Liquid Sun trust me, some people need clear and detailed explanations. This guy is one of the best, it is a tragedy he records on a futuristic potato.
Excellent work yet again JT!
Great work,Hi from Tasmania,Its FLAT.
I can't be the only one asking... what's the equipment you are using... the clarity is breathtaking. Amazing.
hi matthew, here I use a Sony a6000 that has been converted to 830nm infrared. the resolution is 24 MP and the focal length (35 mm equivalent) is reported as 111mm (I have a very good zoom lens on it, objective diameter of 72mm, love that lens very much f/4), The clip by the pool was from a Sony camcorder converted to full spectrum (I personally removed the IR blocking filter from the image sensor)
@@jtolanmedia1 . Hi from England many thanks for your reply. Your video and presentation is incredibly interesting.
Have a gr8 day. Cheers. 👍
Thank you! I'm so glad you got a theodolite! It looks like you're using just one of the vertical angle readings, which has an error of 12 feet (0.009 degrees.)
Doing the calculations a little more carefully, here's the average between right-face and left-face (forward and reverse) readings:
6.86797 degrees.
For anyone interested, the mountain peak seems to be 10813 feet high at 33.814726,-116.679427, and the observation location is 1243 feet at 33.971670,-116.502475 according to google earth.
Double checking google earth, the map distance (presumably straight line) 14.85 miles.
Thus, using trig, and not accounting for refraction, and using your theodolite reading, the mountain measures to be 10687 feet high: (tan(6.86797 degrees) * 14.85 * 5280)+1243=10687
That's 10813-10687=126 missing feet! JTolan is measuring 126 missing feet of height on the mountain!
And guess how many missing feet there should be over 14.85 miles on the globe? (8*(14.85^2))/12=147 feet.
That's a difference of 147-126=21 feet!
If the earth is flat, JTolan's measurement was 126 feet in error. If the earth is a globe, then JTolan's measurement was only 21 feet in error.
But wait, we haven't accounted for refraction yet! The globe model says there should be 21 more missing feet than JTolan measured.
Standard refraction is 1 degree per 932 miles: tan(14.85/932 degrees)*14.85*5280=22!
Folks, standard refraction for 14.85 miles is 22 feet.
In other words, JTolan's reading was within 1 foot of the globe model. *One foot! One lousy foot!*
Even without refraction he was still within 21 feet of the globe model shape.
But if the earth is flat, his error was over a hundred feet!
Earth is definitely curved. You measured it perfectly my friend!
Please do more measurements with that theodolite. Do mountains from different distances. Plot it on a chart. Go back to the aqueduct. I think you'll find that 8 inches per mile squared is the rule.
fromjesse you are cooking up a story with that vertical angle error of 12feet than you used to open up your statement
@@hulkgreen6786 No my friend, right in the video he shows @18:15 in green text on the right top that his forward and reverse measurements were different by 0.018 degrees.
What you don't know is that a theodolite has a small error and you compensate for it by taking a measurement, then turning the swivel head around and flipping the eyepiece over and then taking the same measurement again, then you average the two readings, and that gives you a true reading.
In his case, the error was +0.009 degrees one way and -0.009 degrees the other way.
0.009 degrees at 14.87 miles is a vertical error of 12 feet.
I realize you never finished high school math, and it's OK, a lot of people don't - in fact I didn't - but I did learn about tangent and multiplication and 0.009 degrees is definitely 12 feet 4 inches at 14.87 miles. Just put into google and search "tangent(0.009 degrees) * 14.87 miles in feet"
If you want to learn more how to use a theodolite, search youtube and watch videos.
fromjesse always throwing abuse in your words do you , globers dilemma !!!! Go to the same location and prove we live on a globe by doing some experiments otherwise 🤐
@@hulkgreen6786 I don't need to go to that resort with my theodolite because JTolan just did it with his and proved it's a globe. But I've done numerous measurements around my area with a theodolite, and also found it's a globe here: ruclips.net/video/ELbFpskgBMs/видео.html
fromjesse well your experiment needs to be peer reviewed and repeatable is that not how you debunked stuff
thanks Jtolens I share your videos all the time.....keep up the great work
Amazing work!!! It's only getting better and better!!! thank you :)
Amazing, JT !!
thank you James.
JTolan Media1 Thank you, Bud !! You’re the man. I want to send you a book if I could get an email. Very important stuff. It would be a free gift. My pleasure. Or, on Amazon books the title is “The Only True God” by Eric H.H. Chan. This was almost as important as FE to me. The sky is opening up it’s secrets.
@@jameydog8 thanks james, you can send it to jtolanmedia1@gmail.com
JTolan Media1 will do
i live in europa in a square free standing house and the same wall , where in the summer the early sun shines on, also in the evening the sun shines on, while during the day the second, third, and fourth wall had the sun.
so almost three quartels of a circle. TO ACHIEVE THIS WITH A BALL, YOU MUST WOBBLE THE BALL TREMENDOUSLY. SO IN A THREE DIMENSIONAL MODEL, THIS IS PRACTICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.
Here are the azimuths of the rise and set of the Sun for three European city on June 21st 2020: (from timeanddate.com)
Madrid: 58° 302° Change in azimuth = 244°
Vienna: 52° 308° Change in azimuth = 256°
Berlin: 48° 312° Change in azimuth = 264°
The wall that you get the Sun shining on in the morning and evening is facing roughly North. The azimuths of the rising Sun is North of East and the azimuth of the setting Sun is North of West.
That is why your North wall is illuminated in the morning and evening.
You do know, I hope, that all the predictions of timeanddate.com are based on the globe/heliocentric system. You can verify their predictions yourself. You can even make these calculations yourself without timeanddate.com if you know how. I can do it. Sailors have been doing it for hundreds of years.
You don't need to wobble GLOBE Earth, daily rotation and yearly orbit around the Sun explains it all. Flat earth doesn't cut it.
hey Jtolan, Thanks for your efforts, i enjoy your videos very much!
One thing i didn't understand is the mountain height being off from google, aren't the heights normally measured from sea level and not from the ground base? In this case it could explain the difference you found... Appreciate it if you could clarify.
His only error is not including the dimensions of the earth in his calculation.
Thank you for your incredible work... May I ask you what do you think about nikon p1000? Wouldn't its zoom be useful?
I heard that's a good camera, I looked through the view finder of a p900 a while back and it did not compare with my Sony camera, but then Sony has some horrible view finders in the lower priced cameras. We get what we pay for. My new Sony alpha 7R iii is just so awesome, (full frame, high sensitivity) and I can change the lenses on it. For video and zoom capability I like a good old fashion camcorder, but p1000 does have impressive specs.
Thank you for your incredible analysis, I had to watch this twice to believe it ....It is FLAT!
Prease provide me with a map of the flat earth that can be used to navigate on or give me a link to a map that conforms to reallity.
I have a ship in Whangarei (NZ) and need to get to Guayaquil ( Equador).
How far is that and how many days is that at 12 Knots??
How much fuel do I need for that journey at 10 ton/h
The crew needs food for that time and they don't deliver pizza in the middle of the paciffic
How much do I need for 20 persons???
His ‘analysis’ is incredible. He omitted the dimensions of the earth and got the wrong answer. The vertical angle is accurate. And I had difficulty calculating the correct elevation with his measurement.
Frankie and Benjy Mouse find the book of the sun on RUclips he claims he has the flatearth map I am sure he will give it to you now go get more flat earth proof good luck
@@hulkgreen6786 Are you serious? The book of the sun is comedy gold!
High respect for your work, Thank You! Blessing
Yes the gravity anomaly is very small. In Palm Desert the N/S direction the deflection is -0.0039 deg. In the E/W direction the deflection is 0.0005 deg.
There is no such thing as gravity, it's a theory not a physical reality.
@@godsbeautifulflatearth
A puny insignificant god would make a flat earth.
The all powerful god creates a solar solar system and a universe on a grand scale. And gave us tools and intellect to observe it.
@@godsbeautifulflatearth
Gravitation is real.
You show the theodolite, why don't you use it instead of fudging numbers?
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Always looking forward to your posts.
Ii live in this area and I see the beautiful mountains from all over the Coachella Valley, a spectacular sight...From any distance.
@JTolan 5:59. When you create your vertical scale why do you assume the height of Chino Hills can be measured from the shoreline? That presumes a flat Earth. After all, Chino Hills is some 40 miles inland from that beach you're measuring off of. IF the Earth is curved (which it may be) the base of the hills could be much lower than the beach, being hidden by the curve. You haven't yet proven a Flat Earth at this stage in your observation. So you should really consider that possibility.
Since the apartment tower a little to the left can easily be seen over its entire height and its height is known (200 ft) that would be a more objective choice for making a reliable vertical scale. When doing scientific observations we should be making an effort to remain as objective as possible. The choice of Chino Hills for your scale is controversial. The choice of the apartment tower would not be, and thus your observation and measurement would have more validity.
For reference, the apartment tower is located on Via Dolce, just south of W Washington Blvd in Marina Del Rey and can be easily found on Google Earth.
Great!
Thanks man good job.
Would be better with less ominous music. Great video though
Excellent!! What about Big Bear?
Hi all you flaties, Mr T thankyou so much for your input and sombre and methodical analysis, I love to read the comments and one of MR Ts comments caught my eye so I will repost here.
Incredible footage...great work.
I don't think it's gravitonal, it doesn't exist. I think it is more likely magnetic distortion. We live in a flat, enclosed, motionless, and last but most importantly created environment.
Great work btw! Thank you for all you have done!
So magnetism that you can't see but see it's effect exists but gravity that you also can't see but see it's effects doesn't exist.
@@robertlafleur5179 Gravity is simply density and boyncy. Magnetism is a proven thing, gravity is still a theory.
@@IndyChris66 - Here, theory of magnetism:
www.worldscientific.com/worldscibooks/10.1142/8994
www.tpub.com/neets/book1/chapter1/1h.htm
www.le.ac.uk/se/centres/sci/selfstudy/mam5.htm
Ooops!
A scientific theory is not an hypothesis, it's the best we know about a particular subject. Theory of magnetism and theory of gravity.
@@IndyChris66 - And it's not density and buoyancy, if it was density dropped objects would go up because air is less dense upwards.
so, in my opinion, all light is attracted to the magnetic pull of earth, creating a very low perspective of distant objects, so without a piece of string, attached at sea level, we can never be sure how high we are, even radar and radiowaves could be distorted and attracted, we would never know.
that's right, our measuring stick can be bent, all we can tell is the relative reality, but there are sensors that can pick up the curved space time around us, keep watching my friend, all will be revealed!
@@jtolanmedia1 looking forward to part 2
SWELL.
I love your work but I am also a little bit confused. Based on my research if the Earth is flat, as much evidence shows, then gravity as we have been told cannot be true. However, there could be a similar phenomena that causes objects to fall towards the ground due to the inconsistent electro-magnetic field of earth. Could that also bend the space-time ? I was convinced, that space and time has no actual fabric which could be bent. Could you please elaborate on your gravitational theory?
Loving your work JT, phenomenal stuff once again, I for one cannot wait for part 2! Nice touch too putting the reflection of the astronaut on the moon with the UFO in your sun-glasses! Love what you are bringing to the people, keep it up, but more importantly keep safe!
Amazing research, epic effort. Thanks on behalf of humanity.
Audio was off Sir. Music was very loud voice was very quiet . Interesting video as always
You are THE FE cinematographer! I would very much like to include footage from this video in a new music video . Please let me know if this is ok. Thanks and can't wait for part 2. 😎
yes, perfectly ok.
@@jtolanmedia1 Great. About a week. I'll let you know in a comment. 👍
Just wanted to pass this on to you. I searched on Google "height of wind turbines near desert springs California". This was the result:
Hub height 160 ft (49 m)(max)
thanks
@Jeffery Jack g shame you didn't look at the Dillon Project on the official turbine website. Then you would have found it is 65 metres to the hub.
Beautiful.
Hahaha amazing!!! Thank you for sharing your findings.
Irrefutable proof. Great work JT. Respect here
I praise the LORD for your work!
I just came from a channel called roohif who makes the counter claim that you got the turbine measurements wrong. I watched your video and don't understand how you first estimate the mountain to be 6,500 ft, then use a theodolite and get a measurement that is within 100 ft of the official elevation of 10,694 ft but next claim that gravitational field variations caused the theodolite to read too high? Gravity? I thought you were a flat earther but what am I to think after you claim gravity is real?
It's our weight.. we are not a feather ^^ //Gravity cannot effect me. I'm not mad out of metal. Blessings the earth is flat. God loves us all. And everything loves us. It's no believe it's real. And raise you vibes to be a great human to all others :) see ya. We are everything
hi, see my top comment that I pinned, that might answer your question. I'm a flat earth who believes in gravity, we should all agree on the observables, gravity is the force that pulls objects down, has a magnitude and direction and these properties vary over the surface of the earth. keep watching ...
@@jtolanmedia1 JTolan: I guess you believe in earth attraction (which can also be explained as a gradient of the buoyancy force, thus making the concept of earth magnetism redundant - not sure aboit it yet). Gravity is an attractuon between two masses, which has never been proven (university professors cannot replicate the Cavendish experiment). All the best.
@@johnnyz2316 Literally hundreds of experiments since Cavendish. Don't believe other Flat Earthers that are too lazy to look:
Torsion balance
J. H. Gundlach and S. M. Merkowitz, “Measurement of Newton’s constant using a torsion balance with angular acceleration feedback,” Phys. Rev. Lett. 85, 2869-2872 (2000).
Free-fall gravimeter
J. P. Schwarz, D. S. Robertson, T. M. Niebauer, and J. E. Faller, “A free-fall determination of the Newtonian constant of gravity,” Science 282, 2230-2234 (1998).
Pendulum
H. V. Parks and J. E. Faller, “Simple pendulum determination of the gravitational constant,” Phys. Rev. Lett. 105(11), 110801 (2010).
Optically trapped nanospheres
Ranjit G., Mark M., Casey K., & Geraci, A. A., Zeptonewton force sensing with nanospheres in an optical lattice, Physical Review A. 93. 10.1103/PhysRevA.93.053801 (2016).
Atom interferometry
Xu, V., Jaffe, M., Panda, Cristian, D.Kristensen, Sofus L., Clark, L. & Mu}ler, H., Probing gravity by holding atoms for 20 seconds, Science 08 Nov 2019, Vol. 366, Issue 6466, pp. 745-749 (2019).
Awesome! As always.
I miss My Thinking Friends...
It gets So lonely When you are the only one you know that Questions....Everything....and asks”Why” and “WHAT IF?”... Never be satisfied with “Just Because”...…Never..
Thank you for your work J. Respect!
If you allow me questionig, all this gravitational distortion, if existening, could not work against your tesis? Making a round surface looks flat?
yes it does, as you'll see in the next video ... keep watching my friend.
JTolan, have you tried an infrared picure of the night sky, especially during moon phases?
If the Moon is emitting 'cold moonlight' it should be invisible in infrared. This would be a good eggsperiment. I Wonder why jtolan hasn't done this yet...??
Very good idea. An infrared heat image of the moon. That’ll get them talking.
Like that’s never been done before
stargazerslounge.com/topic/58196-moon-in-infrared-and-false-colour/
From the website of the Palmsprings windmills: "The largest of these windmills stands 328 feet tall with blades half the length of an American football field (150 feet)."
I have in plan taking pictures of an island 110km further away from where I live. Actually I have a few islands to focus on, and the whole coast of Africa too. Iam really curious what I would see. I just wonder what kind of set up I need to buy to start all this.
Rumour has it that pilots and mountaineers don't rely on their technical instruments anymore but ask JTolan instead despite him not mentioning one viewer altitude throughout this whole video.
More gold bro 👍
Olá, posso compartilhar seu vídeo em meu canal ? Parabéns pelo vídeo
yes
@@jtolanmedia1 thank you very much🤝👍
Yep. Just to see the entire Palos Verdes peninsula from there is a winner...
Great video. Thanks for taking the effort to publish your studies.
Once again, you're using infrared as if it's something new, but this imaging technology has been used for many decades in remote sensing and aerial photogrammetry to make maps. I've asked you before, but you never respond to my question to find out if you have compared your results to the published topographic maps to notice that you're not sharing anything new or unique, ie, you're photography is confirming all the old surveying measurements made to create all the maps that depict all those land features ...
For yours and the convenience of the others following along here, you can easily download these published maps from this link -
Topographic Maps, Nautical Charts, Triangulation Diagrams, and Survey Disk Datasheets
jessekozlowski.wordpress.com/2020/04/02/topographic-maps-nautical-charts-and-triangulation-diagrams/
Hi Jesse, thanks for the link. and yes I have looked at maps, and yes IR is "old" technology, quite aware of all of this. Keep watching to understand reality ....
@@jtolanmedia1 , keep watching what, you? To understand reality? No, if you have examined the maps that I gave you the link to download them from, then you have the results produced from the real measurements made by real surveyors observing reality, and your nice photography confirms that reality. You know this, but your fans do not because you're not telling them that truth.
@@JesseKozlowski JTolan is just trying to outclass Ranty as the N°1 globe earth proof provider. "It's shocking!"
Awesome evidence thank you
Hi, iam a flat-earther but you can have many Problems when you measure the hight like that. How high is the focal lenght ? ... objekts in the distance getting biggert than the objects in the front and is the measurement of google correct ?
The best think would be you measure a distance to the windmill by yourself and look over the Top and just measure the angel where you can see the mounten peak and do the maths for the angle.
You're using "gravity" as a variable/parameter? You DO know that gravity and FE don't go together, right? They're fundamentally incompatible!
FOAD RIGHTNOW Please explain you us how there wouldn’t be gravity on a flat plane.
@@BrandonToy it would just be different and their simple minds cannot wrap their heads around that.
keep watching, gravitational measurements actually illustrate we don't live on a globe, I flew a sensitive scale, I'll show work from literature, and what some NASA scientists say, I"m working to open scientific minds that have been brainwashed by the philosophy passed down to us, we must scrutinize everything, souls must be freed from the deception ...
@@jtolanmedia1 We dont fall into the centre of a geodesic we are drawn into counterspace opened by a standing wave.
@@BrandonToy - Really? You believe the Earth is flat, yet think gravity is real? Really?
The volume difference between the music and narration was too much but that was an awesome video. Very cool and good evidence.
Love ya bud! Thank you!
A short lesson of flatlanders! The horizon is the basic indicator of where you live. If you always have the horizon at eye level, even when you are on an airplane, you are already certain that you live in the middle of the earth.
Exactly! This is just a good argument for the sheep who say "I only trust science".... JTolan conducts TRUE science experiments. Which is great :)
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@Gary Thistle lol u mad
Medi-terranian means middle of earth. Either of the known earth when the naming was done or falsified naming or still denoting middle of earth. Either way it cannot be about a ball surface (unless fakery in any way), because there is no middle on a ball surface.
"even when you are on an airplane"
So... go see if it is... imgur.com/70r5NoM
Great Clarity
Thank you very much Big Man. Very impressive !!!
1) Your pals have been lecturing everybody that gravity doesn't exist.
2) If anybody is capable of exhibiting a map of the flat earth, would it be you?
3) Nothing says BS like "shocking".
Some advocates for the flat earth believe strange things, not everything under the FE umbrella is accurate. Keep watching ...
@@jtolanmedia1 Nothing under the flat earth 'umbrella' is accurate, you yourself have demonstrated this by making assumptions and basing your whole narrative on those assumptions.
Sooo, was it 6500 ft above desert resort, at 1250, or is it 10800 ft above sea level?
6500' above sea level
aren't mountain peaks measured by sea level? great video!!
Good point, the base of the wind turbine tower is at about 1000ft above sea level.
Never mind, the observation location is 277 feet above the base of the tower, so the base of the tower forms a downward slope which is only about 100 feet above sea level by the time it reaches the peak of the mountain.
Is this from sea level or from the place you are starting from
the images from Malibu are taken from about 200 feet above sea level.
Great work, thanks for sharing.
I don't understand the snow argument yet ('3000 feet down' compared to what?), also not the 'gravitational field' distortion (how does that work on flat earth?). Maybe you can elaborate later? I am a flat surface of earth believer, just try to totally understand this observation with calculations.
Why don't you film this from sea level? Why do you feel the need to elevate your position?
DON"T PANIC - the earth is FLAT. :)
Grandioso y exepcional trabajo Sr. JTolan!
Es plana por todas partes, con algunos relieves (como el monte San Jacinto) peró plana al fin !!
A pensado en hacer una toma bifocal con dos filtros, uno infrarojo y uno ultravioleta sobre un mismo objeto? Seria maravilloso ver el resultado!!
Saludos y fuerte abrazo desde CdMx!!!
The 10,000 ft they say is above sea level..not from the ground right?
yes, that's correct