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They are both singing in a faster tempo because this is the TONY AWARDS performance, and they're trying to get in a LOT of songs withing the given 3 hr broadcast.
One of the main reasons she was chosen for Elphaba is because during her audition she messed up the high note in Defying Gravity. She straight up just said the f word. They thought she gave off great Wicked Witch vibes. 😂
She really does though lol. Like her acting is amazing
Unpopular opinion but idina is a pretty subpar elphaba in terms of vocals. Her acting is solid but i could name 10 elphabas better off the top of my head without thinking
@@a7xguitar666 it's a pretty popular opinion. I only like her because of her "witchy face" and her chemistry with Chenoweth. People like Willemijn Verkaik are better singers, have the look and can have chemistry with almost anyone. And let's not forget SJB, the original Elphaba.
@@NairAthul omgggg Willemijn is sooooo amazing. Watch her last defying gravity in 2017 on West End. In my opinion the best DG ever.
@@NairAthul i just see a lot of people put idina up on this untouchable pedestal because she was the first elphaba and im thinking its because they havent heard any other elphabas so they wouldnt know better. Donna vivino to me is the absolute best elphaba vocally
Idina had the unfortunate luck of being sick for more than one live performace, and this one being the Tony's was a shame...but she still powered through and slayed the song the best she could.
I heard that during the Tony performance Idina was having an asthma attack so her gasping is not a character trait but her need to breathe.
As many have pointed out :) Thank you for that insight!
Idina has never publicly confirmed whether she has asthma or not. I have heard that rumour for the last 17 years but I don’t think it’s true.
I think it is an acting choice for the character - she would gasp during her regular performances at The Gershwin theatre - she can’t have been having an asthma attack every night.
I also don’t think The Tony’s speeding up the tempo because of their tight time restrictions helped.
Idina doesn't have asthma but when she does sing you can here her taking gasps for air in the middle of songs, but this does not mean she has Asthma.
I don’t think so. She always performs it like this. Every performance she’s done of the song has that sharp inhale between lines.
Idina is an amazing singer.
So glad she was Elphaba and was chosen to play Elsa. She deserves it.
The instrumentalists were definitely rushing in this performance, but I think Idina does a much better job as well
It’s the Tonys. They have to be shorter right?
I love Idina. I was lucky enough to see her perform live in her concert at the Sydney Opera House (coincidentally about 2 weeks after Kristin Chenoweth at the same venue!!) and she was incredible. But I think we can all agree that her instrument relies more on raw power and emotion rather than precision (like Cheno). Ok she doesn't hit every single note, but damn it she makes you feel something with every line she sings... and that's not nothing.
Agree hard with Chenoweth using superior technique. Someone released a bootleg recording of different Galindas singing the "optional high note" at the end of No One Mourns the Wicked. Hers is by far the strongest, and she was the only singer that didn't slide into the note. It has that bell ringing effect that makes you go, "damn, now THAT'S a soprano!"
@@indigothecatWait i want to hear this
I agree. she makes you feel every single word and I would rather have that (with healthy technique that I believe Idina does have technique to sustain these notes) than pretty vocals like some of the current Elphaba’s where it sounds so sanitized.
You know what else is impressive? She has to do that while hanging from the ceiling, and I can’t even do that when I’m standing on the ground😂
she’s not hanging on the ceiling but i totally agree lol
If I recall correctly, Idina was actually sick during this performance and there was a debate of whether or not she could actually perform, but she insisted that she do it because she didn’t want to let anyone who was expecting to see her down (in true Idina style). She was very much that way during her Broadway reign as well. She would go on sick because she didn’t want people to be disappointed that she wasn’t there when she was supposed to be.
That's actually not great form as an actor. First, it's bad for your health. But second, understudies want that opportunity. Ideally it's written into their contract that they get to perform a certain number of shows, because they have to learn the whole part, rehearse and constantly keep it fresh so they can go on without much notice. Having to do all that preparation, it's important to give the understudy the chance to show what they can do. If she's sick not only will she potentially be hurting herself unnecessarily or getting other actors sick, she also won't be at her best vocally while another actor might be prepared to do the role and in top form that night.
I can see how "the show must go on" (and only I can do it) mentality has some very admirable qualities and can be a really great attitude in a lot of ways, and it's wonderful Idina cared about not disappointing anyone who wanted to see her specifically, in some types of productions, no one else can do your part. But I'd say a Broadway production isn't necessarily where the attitude of feeling like you *have* to be the one to perform is necessary or helpful.
I mean this was the Tony's and she was nominated, so there was no way she would want to miss it.
Yeah, she was sick. I presume she was congested. You can hear that deep breath she takes after singing a line.
In the Netherlands we had Willemijn Verkaik who played this role. Saw her live in this musical and She was amazing. She even played this role on Broadway and West End
Cheatsheet? You'd need a whole spellbook to get me to sing like Idina or Kristin
The music is fast. Her breaths can be heard but its hard song man. Lol. But so is Let it go and Show yourself.
Also.. she is suspended in the air by a harness.. might make it hard to breath as well...
@@osnatashtaralevin8944 No, she is in a cherry picker -- basically standing on a ledge and locked in around the waist
Yeah but she only had to record those songs once, she had to perform Defying Gravity 8 times a week for the better part of 3 years!
She does that in every song but I think it adds to the character
Not an excuse. Here’s a quote from a vocal teacher, “She always gasps because she carries way too much tension. A breath should never be this audible, no matter how fast it is.
Try it for yourself... breathe in slowly through your mouth with a relaxed throat. Do it quickly. Then try it quickly again but this time tighten your throat. It will only be an audible gasp like this when your throat is tight.”
You should listen to Idina Menzel from Frozen!! I don’t hear her breathing as much as I do in this song.
Idina's voice always gave me the chills in a good way.
I think this was a cut they did for the Tony's or something. Either that or for the Letterman Show. They had to speed it up which IMHO did more harm than good.
I agree with you that the breathing is her style, plus it’s live and not recorded. Seemed a bit tight and the tempo was sporadic. Most of her performance was excellent.
also the orchestra was rushing so so much
@@gillianharris-swem8737 That Damn Orchestra.
It should be noted that within the context of the musical, Elphaba and Glinda had just been running up a staircase and Elphaba was very anxious in this scene, so the heavy breathing may have been an acting choice. I only say that because most other Elphabas I have seen do something similar.
Nope, India Menzel has Asthma and she was having an attack but still going on with the show!
Yeah, I think the timing was faster in this specific performance. I'm assuming that's why she sounds a little out of breath and rushing at times. I've seen the show live and I listen to the cast album every now and I don't remember it being so fast. However, no one in the comments has mentioned my favorite Elphaba so I figured I'd drop her name. Danna Paola was the original Elphaba in the Wicked Mexico production and she's phenomenal! You should definitely check her Wicked performances out. She does sing in Spanish though since it's the Mexican production, but she's amazing and she's a bit younger than the usual Broadway Elphaba's so she gives a different, younger approach.
You should listen to Willemijn Verkaik as Elphaba, her vocals are out of this world and she originated the role in Germany and The Netherlands. Then she performed on Broadway and West End. She played the role for 10 years (2000+ performances most ever), 3 languages!!!!! Thanks
I think she plays the part very well. I love watching her.
When I heard Idina's power balled "Let It Go" in Frozen, I knew immediately that they used pitch correction on at least a couple of the notes. Now, to be fair, pitch correction is an industry standard tool for all pop music and singing in movies, even "perfect" singers will receive some pitch correction. However, in the last bit of the song where she screams, "let the storm rage OOONNN!" you can hear a couple of very subtle breaks in the note that she sings with no vibrato initially. This is likely where pitch correction happened, and you can hear that she's tensing up to get the note out. As a disclaimer, I think Idina is an awesome actor and she's a good singer as well, but as Audrey points out, sometimes it feels like Idina leans too heavily into exaggerating her character and not enough on solid vocal technique. In a similar situation, the RUclipsr Sideways also points this out with regards to Anne Hathaway singing "I Dreamed a Dream" in the Les Miserable movie. One should never cry while singing, and rather, try to make it sound like the idea of crying while you sing, as otherwise it will cause the vocal chords to get even more wet and you'll choke up. In later interviews, Anne revealed that she didn't like the first take of the song, so she sang it several more times over the course of a few hours, and she and the director eventually had the horrible realization that the 1st attempt was her best take, as her voice went downhill after the abuse she put it through.
I suggest you react to eden espinosa singing "the wizard and i" (one of her latest performances though, as she is the person who created the 'things I've never felt riff'
I miss “the eden” so much :p
The gasping in Evan and Elphaba could also be because they are two of the hardest if not THE two hardest roles for each gender in musical theatre
The orchestra did her dirty in this
Yes, it was too fast
If you knew anything about this performance, the orchestra sped up to keep with time restraints- that's why it sounds faster. Idina had to catch up to them.
My favourite I don’t care what anyone says. Acting wise no other elphaba compares in my opinion
I have a different Elphaba next week that might change your opinion. You’ll have to wait and see...
My favorite performance from Idina of Defying Gravity is her 2007 Royal Variety Performance. She was in top form.
Why do you think that was?
@@SongsFromASuitcase I'm just speculating, so all of this could be gibberish, but I'll explain. The Royal Variety performance was during her London run. Most people would agree that this run was vocally 'better' than the preceding Broadway run. At this point, she had had years to develop the character and improve on her vocal technique. Sure, some of her more prominent vocal tendencies still managed to show, but it sounded like she was able to curb most of them to an extent to where it just sounded better. She added lots of stylization during her London run too ("so if you care to find me" pattern, deserves riff, etc). I'm not a vocal expert like you, so I wouldn't be able to actually tell if anything was technically changed but there is a noticeable difference. Additionally, the London company typically puts on standbys when there's big press like this. I'm going to assume that Idina's standby went on for the matinee before the Royal Variety Performance, whereas this performance from the 2004 Tony Awards (Sunday, June 6, 2004) would have been following a matinee Idina would have done just hours prior. The additional rest may have been beneficial for Idina. Idina is by no means the BEST Elphaba in terms of vocal ability, but she makes up for it elsewhere. Personally, Elphaba's greatest vocal ability comes from these ladies: Willemijn Verkaik (Germany, The Netherlands, Broadway, London), Rachel Tucker (London, Broadway), Jackie Burns (Broadway, U.S. tour), Julia Murney (U.S. tour, Broadway), Stephanie J. Block (U.S. tour, Broadway), and Jessica Vosk (U.S. tour, Broadway).
I would suggest that you take a look at Jessica Vosk, Alice Fearn, Rachel Tucker, or most other Elphabas tbh. I think the other Elphabas focus on the vocals more than Idina. No offense to Idina though. I love her, and I think she has improved a lot now since being cast as Elsa in Frozen.
I agree about the Elphabas. In my opinion, every single one who has been cast since Idina is better.
I disagree that she has improved since Frozen. It's the exact opposite actually. Her voice has declined significantly due to years of bad technique. She sounds fine in the movies/albums because they edit the crap out of it, but any time she sings it live she butchers the end. I actually find her painful to listen to live these days because I'm a vocal teacher and can hear the damage being done. I know what it feels like to sing the way she does, and it hurts.
@@carr0760 I meant Frozen 2. I know that the end of Let it Go is always a struggle for her. Her most recent performance of Into the Unknown at the Oscars was pretty good aside from her timing mistake at the end.
@@allenn.3909 she’s amazing as well! I just forgot to put her on the list
this was the Tony performance cut that’s why it’s fast
You really should react to Donna Vivino in this song AND IN NO GOOD DEED. I really want to see that, her
Fiyero riff is just the best out there
Willemijn Verkaik sings this the best in my opinion. She really is impressive. Please review her performance and you won't be disappointed. She has performed this in the West End and she will blow your mind x
I second this opinion. Alice Fearn would be up there as well honestly
She might sing it fine but she isn't acting while she's singing unfortunately, which is a must for Broadway. Again she is definitely amazing at singing the song but lacks the emotion that others have
My favorite Elphaba right now is Jessica Vosk. You should react to her singing either Wizard and I or No Good Deed.
Not gonna lie though...my favorite Elphie changes basically daily! 😂
I got to see her live a while ago and she was absolutely amazing!
I looooooove Jessica Vosk!!!! 🤩🤩🤩 I second this!!
Personally I like Shoshana Bean
Lots of your comments ignore the fact that she was performing this crazy number on live television with lots of nerves and adrenaline. In my opinion she fucking slayed the shit out of this. Ain’t nobody thinking about their damn jaw tension when they are trying to belt that song and being hoisted 20 feet in the air on TV
Broadway is performed in front of live audiences all the time.
Plus she was sick and almost couldn't make it. Idina is truly amazing!
Objectively she didn’t. Well, at least the final belts. Plenty of other performers can perform the final belts healthy. Of course the audience isn’t going think of her technique, but it’s important for Idina to take care of her vocals. Pointing out her flaws is not hate, but rather helpful to her health.
@@noelsmith3367If she was sick then I can understand.
The stage version is quite different than the studio version. It speeds up and slows down through the entire show ng
The magic of ✨live theater✨
Never watched the full show, but I love Eden Espinosa singing "Defying Gravity"
Did anyone ever suggest Jessica Vosk? She did this role and was absolutely AMAZING! I would check her out!
She only reviewed her once. She reacted to her singing a song (not from Wicked).
This song just resonates so much with me. Reminds me to live my life to the fullest and try to achieve the impossible. I'm not even a play person
Tbh though only you and other vocal coaches will be able to hear these things. to everyone else she's bloody amazing.
For an alternate singer of this song, I would suggest Willemijn Verkaik: ruclips.net/video/DQt62mGPSf0/видео.html
She has played the role over 2,000 times in 4 different countries (Germany, Netherlands, US and UK) in 3 different languages (German, Dutch and English)! She is the only person to hold any of those distinctions.
Wow. I came for a comparison to see if Mitch (Superfruit, Pentatonix) did this in the same key, and not only did he do this in the same key, he hit the ending notes that she didn’t try. Superfruit’s version of Defying Gravity really is a spectacular phenomenon. She was good, don’t get me wrong, but I objectively (disregarding my bias for this comparison) think Mitch did it better.
Jemma Fix from Aus absolutely slays this song. There's a vid of her singing for morning tv. Not the same vibe as live theatre and being hoisted in the air but her performance on stage was just perfect. She's currently performing as Elsa in Frozen in Aus (and blows Caissie Levy out of the water vocally imo). I wish they'd make a Aussie cast album!
Rix. And yes, she is an AMAZING Elphaba. 👍
Kerry Ellis is my favourite Elphaba and has an incredible voice. She absolutely smashed this song when I saw her perform it. Simply stunning.
Yes! That's exactly how it should be sung. She makes Idina look like an amateur
@@josevich kerry ellis really defies gravity, vocally. Idina is sublar in general for live singing, woman really struggles, but her acting makes her a worthy elphaba. She's really the defiant wicked witch
The reason it is so fast is the actual song is 6 minutes long and this is a 3 to 4 minute tony performance... so you can see that it is naturally slower (plus verses removed to cut time for thus performance)
they have to rush musical numbers in the tony's. that's why she was gasping for breath a lot.
No..
She always gasps because she carries way too much tension. A breath should never be this audible, no matter how fast it is.
Try it for yourself... breathe in slowly through your mouth with a relaxed throat. Do it quickly. Then try it quickly again but this time tighten your throat. It will only be an audible gasp like this when your throat is tight.
@@carr0760 ahhh. thanks for the tip.
@@DAT415 No problem.
That's actually how I teach my students to take a quick catch breath..."when you gasp quickly you take in lots of air, but it's loud because you're tense." So we go through those steps and voila...they can take a quick, quiet, catch breath.
Also add the asthma attack minutes before she performed.
@@HelloWorld-ev9sg She doesn't have asthma. That's a rumour started by her fans to excuse her bad performances.
Kristen Chenoweth, however, does have asthma (which she has publicly spoken about) and you never hear her gasping for breath.
Idina has bad technique; her breathing is audible due to tension. Period.
There's a reason why she's where she is and you're where you are. 🤫
Because of her ACTING. She is a vocal coach not an actor. That’s like telling a scientist how Bill Nye is more successful than they are. Terrible argument.
It’s Christmas Eve ❤️❤️ and she’s breathing like that because 1) she had an asthma attack before going on stage and 2) the orchestra was rushing her 💗
Yayyyyyy! Which country do you inhabit?
@@louisjossa9143 England 💗
@@rubyrubes4121 same!!
@@louisjossa9143 ayyyy!! Are you tier 3 gang or tier 4 gang?
Thank you! I came here to say this exact thing!
Happy Christmas Eve! 🎄🎄🎄
You should react on jessica vosk or willemijn verkaik singing defying gravity. They are amazing
Great reaction! You should react to Morissette amon doing her take on this song next, her techinique is FLAWLESS
I love Idina and Kristin.
Hey could you maybe react to Sabrina Carpenter? Sabrina is a 21 year old actress an artist (she started on Disney and is popularly know for her role as Maya Hart in Girl meets world) She has 4 albums and many singles. She has such a unique pretty voice like it’s amazing! I’d like to see what you think about her? I love Sabrina so much and am such a big fan!
Hope you’re doing have a holiday weekend and keep doing more of wicked Wednesdays
Please do Stephanie J Block singing this!!!!
I love Lindsey Mendez's Elpheba. That may be because she was who I saw on Broadway, but she just seems to sing more powerfully and she does the comedy perfectly.
I was crew to breakdown the show in Albuquerque, and it it took a crew of over 100 to break the show down. If memory serves it was an 18 truck show, which means 18 semi trucks to move the show.
Her shallow gasps for breath sound like asthma to me.
I have exercise/sports induced asthma. It's a narrowing of the airways when you are physically exerting yourself. Makes it hard to get a deep breath. You're only taking in a small portion of air compared to usual. I even was sent to a vocal coach to learn techniques in breathing so I could continue to dance.
Because I recognize the sound of a thinning airways, that telltale gasp, I would probably think she has some for of asthma.
Jessica Vosk is an amazing Elphaba!!! React to her!
Idina has Asthma. She was having an Asthma attack right before the performance and like any actress she pushed through it even though she couldn't breathe.
I'm guessing here, but Idina was probably wearing a harness/corset under her costume, to which the aerial wires were connected, When she was lifted, I wonder if the harness/corset compressed her upper torso, making it more difficult to take in the air.
Just a hunch.
Sutton Foster sang Defying in a private lesson. You can find here on youtube and the quality is great!
I know this is an old video and that, but it could be nice if she does a reaction of other Elphabas around the world some day... Starting with Danna Paola who played the character in the Mexican adaptation when she was just 17 years old
I have a pretty cool idea for you to try to cover. Can you go over any vocal exercises that help recover from issues with vocal cords? Like vocal paralysis, tonsillectomies, damage from smoking/drinking etc? For me it would be great! I have a mild form of vocal paralysis I have had for about 2 yrs and it kills me that I cannot sing like I used to. I usually practice my scales at least 3 times a week as much as I can do but I feel like I can be doing more to help myself
Can you react to tonight belongs to us from the prom
Please please please check out these 2 videos released 2 days ago:
"Defying Gravity" - Wicked 20th Anniversary Edition
and
"Popular" - Wicked 20th Anniversary Edition
Yes
Can you react to the Jessica Vosk wicked ones?
She is my favorite Elphie
Please react to anything from Ride The Cyclone if you haven’t yet! Specifically The Ballad of Jane Doe
React to Jessica Vosk as Elphaba in Wicked!!
As a few people mentioned here, Willemijn Verkaik's execution of this song is amazing if you wanna look at another artist :)
Your evil cackle like that is the best thing to use as the character of elphaba
React to Breath on the in the heights reunion
The reason she was rushed is because when it was slow at the beginning it messed her up because it was behind and plus defying gravity is a fast song
I love your reactions to the different singers and videos. Would you be willing to react to some RUclipsr vocal cover artists? There are many that I follow and that I think are very talented and I'd like more vocal coaches to hear and see what they are capable of. Caleb Hyles, Johnathan Young, and Annapantsu are three of my favorites and you should check them out individually if you ever feel like it and get a chance to.
I might, somewhere down the line :) I've done it before with instagram videos for #MC30 with fans doing Mariah covers. Stay tuned!
You should check out For Good from the same musical, but make sure you have tissues.
Try Willemijn Verkaik. She is Dutch and was our German Elphaba. She is so good
Yes
Noooooo why this one😭😭😭😭 Ok it was better than I remember.
Its the Tony's they have so much time to have their performance... So that's why its so rushed I mean any performance is stepped up a few tempos. One performance comes to mind "Spring Awakening" they used up tempo songs so they can make their time. So they chose this song but kicked up the tempo for time
If you want to hear another version of Defying Gravity with a different vocal style, I'd say listen to the Donna Vivino version of Elphaba.
Please react to her live performance of defying gravity from barefoot at the symphony
Omg wait, can you do Stephanie J Block, Eden Espinoza, or Jessica Vosk please
There's an upcoming one for Wicked Wednesdays, but I won't say which one of those three you mentioned, I made a reaction video for ;)
@@SongsFromASuitcase ok! I’ll stay tuned!
Please do defying gravity : Glee
Should listen to Rachel tuckers last defying gravity in the Westend it blows my mind.
Hi. I've been watching your reaction videos to Lea Salonga. And ya, I'm such a big fan of her. I would suggest, what if you'll react to her singing Defying Gravity. I would and anticipate your reaction video with her performance of this song.
if you hear jennifer dinoia’s “wizard and i” you’re gonna fall in love
please do for good from wicked next, with the OBC! its life changing
You wanna see one of the best Elphies ever? Look up Rachel Tucker. Her growls are freaking incredible!
The gasp/heavy breathing you commented actually is hissing caused by an asthma attack.
My favourite Elphaba is Kerry Ellis!
It's unfortunate that you review this Tony Award performance. It was reported that she had an asthma attack the day of Tony's. I think that was the reason why she was breathing loudly.
Next for Wicked Wednesday can you react to Shoshana Bean singing "No Good Deed" on that morning show where she had a fever lol
This isn't a review, its an audition. Good luck
The reason she is breathing and gasping is because I’m not sure if before or during this performance but she had an asthma attack
i think they had to make the song go faster beacause for the Tony's they have a limited time
Can you react to some things from the Sweeney Todd film - I think the singing is surprisingly decent
My mom went to high school with her!
Lucky! :)
They probably took the tempo up because they only had a certain amount of time for the Tony performance.
Good guess!!! yes I think that's what happened
This song is a BIAATCH.. I saw her sing this in the original BROADWAY CAST and met her afterwards.. She and Kristen stood outside on a rainy night and talked to us. THEY WERE SO KIND.
Lea Salonga sings the belt part in a beautiful mix 🥰
ruclips.net/video/jH3fblXuW2U/видео.html
+Aveino Layug Be sure to add that to my voting board on my community tab. That’s a great suggestion!
The tony performance isn’t fair to Idina though
Please react to Jessica vosk singing defying Gravity
She’s also in a harness to fly.
From what I read she had an asthma attack before the performance. That was the problem with the breathing.