A whole hearted thank you from those of us in developing countries, where these subjects are simply not taught. You John, and your guests, are helping me educate my daughter and I am grateful.
@@ugiswrong I wish men weren't so oversexed that they thought every word a woman says is a sexual flirtation all the time, just listen, don't embarrass yourself by speaking
@@pollywog7625 well, it's completely natural to be attracted to a woman's voice. Thats how nature is. Sounds and appearances attract one another within species. Thats why mating calls are a thing for some animals. Were basically civilized animals. So shame on you for trying to shame someone for their natural instincts. However we ARE civilized animals. So the original commenter should have just kept the comments about her voice to themselves. Both of you are wrong in this scenario. :)
I loved how you and Lisa were so encouraging of Johnathan's cool work. You could tell he was anxious during this conversation but it didn't detract at all from the substance. Great job to all of you!
Idk how to explain this but I have been watching a large enough volume of Godier's videos for a substantial amount of time now and i trust this man, I care for this man, and I see him as a mentor in some ways since I don't have that in my own life much. I have always been a writer and a deep lover of space since I was a kid and his videos have reignated certain passions I had previously mourned losing as my life developed. Thank you John, I will never stop watching.
Oh this is going to be banger. I didn't listen at the podcast edition and I was waiting to go in the bed before I listened. So now it's my favourite part of the week, in bed and listening event horizon! 😊
Frau Kaltenegger, es ist mir eine Freude Sie in dieser Episode hören zu dürfen. Wonderful that you have the first Austrian scientist on your channel (as far as I know). Greetings from Vienna! 😊 edit: I didn't know Lisa Kaltenegger has been a guest already. I have to look that episode up right after this one.
I’ve expected this would be true for a while now. It’s great learning it’s actually possible. Aliens could have known life has been here for millions of years
if we can see the universe. why should not some else be able to ? and our technolgy isnt even that much developed.. we are still an infant when it comes to cosmic age. and just the fact that our own eyes are only seeing like 0.1% of the "stuff" that can be seen, it tells you that there is so much more out there. dark forest > fermi. look at out planet. how we enslave this system , how we butcher it. you think any other civilization will be better ? it is survival of the fittest. still. everywhere. but for is its capitalism. what does peaceful even mean ?... or why is it a word ?
and there is life out there in the universe, look at earth , look at the diversity if life, as if our planet would be the only one.... hi iam the only one in this universe , look at me , iam special (counts for every human)
100% Edit: considering life on earth Is for couple billions of years... And detecting life doesnt mean you have to travel anywhere, just observe... Imagine, just in this moment, 3billion light years Away a civilization became So advanced to spot an earth size planet And read Its atmosphere properties So they know we have a life form... They May need to be a type 2 civilization fór that.. but if they became a type 2 civilization a million years ago.. we Will know in next 3billion years... Speed od light Is slooooooooooowpoke
TLDR: of course they can, we live in the surface of the planet and we use massive scale artificial lighting. But even before technology they saw our biosignatures
I am encouraged by how many different people and groups are studying exoplanets and exobiology. Only 50 years ago, it was all just science fiction. In just my lifetime, we've gone from ridicule to "why haven't you found more?" I am curious as to how specific you can get in the red-shift exploration and how specific you might want to get. I know that different types of plants have different IR signatures. Also, using the Carl Sagan model of study (turning your sensors back onto the Earth), we not only have a model for IR detection, but can reverse engineer that because we know the actual result. The study process is verifiable based upon our known bio-parameters. But in this case, if you are looking for a forest, you might miss a tree. Anyway, another great discussion. Hi Eryn, good catch on that great pic.
Can they feels us ? Only conciousness can overcome Ower lightspeed restriction. I more as i get older , l I start to believe the answer..lies in a higher conciousness. For comunication ..and very non physical interaction Grtzz from the Netherlands Johny geerts
I have to post this as a comment as the user appears to have blocked me. His comment is below. My reply: @t_xxic The surface temperature of Venus ranges from about 820 degrees to nearly 900 degrees F. The average surface temperature is 847 degrees F., hot enough to melt lead. So, zero Km of ice on Venus.
This was so much more enjoyable than the political / Americacentric guests that have been popping up recently. It's your channel to do with as you please but enthusiastic & knowledgable guests who are talking about their area of expertise rather than what they think we should think is a far better listener experience in my opinion. 10x thumbs up & get Lisa back on!
Absolutely, it's a super exciting time in the _incredibly long history_ (and pre-history) of humanity...and we got lucky enough to be gifted our consciousnesses by the Universe (which *we* fundamentally *are,* as in, we human beings aren't a _part_ of the Universe, we ARE the Universe, just as the Universe is us) at a time that lets us witness, and be a part of this snapshot in time. We have all of our collective and individual struggles to deal with while we're here, there's no doubt about that, and I hope we continue (I know we will) to help and support more and more of each other as we're facing the huge political, economic, and environmental challenges of our time. I just hope that we never forget to look up from time to time.
i would say if we ever "encounter" life outside our planet it will be either a. they are 2-3k years (god help us not more) ahead of us and pray they are peaceful because they find us. or b. we think it may exist because we continue to use "our" model....because it's the only model we know to exist...so we focus on it. We keep looking for us...we should be focusing on them. :D Edit...thats the fun part. we keep looking for us and i get it...but either we are absolutely unique or we are not. We are very special...or we are not. Hard pill to choose. That or we are lazy with no imagination (sorry hard truths). If you focus on us...it's because we are special and unique. Because to be fair, we are until proven otherwise. ...and that's why we keep looking for us. To prove we are not special or unique. ;)
Are there any known or inferred biochemical processes on earth that use lower energy red photons to perform oxygenic photosynthesis? Everything I've read about M dwarf stars' planets tells me that there are no known biochemical pathways that we know of that could take advantage of the energy transferred to a molecule from red wavelengths but if anyone has an example of paper they could point me to I'll read it.
at first, amazing meant "caught in a maze" and "stupefied" or "dreadful" were the word senses, 15c. being caught long enough to die of thirst or starve was the extreme sense of the word amazing="to despair". my mind goes directly to stupefied or struck stupid whenever anyone says "amazing!"
It will really be an interesting day if we ever see that red edge from a telescope. Also, am I super behind the game here? I just noticed the 'Shop' tab. Has that Event Horizon merch always been there? None of the links seem to work 😢 How can I continue without my Event Horizon coffee mug?!
@@EventHorizonShow It may be my location. Perhaps the store won't let me order from Japan. The prices are appearing in Yen, but the buttons to "View on Spring" are greyed out.
@@usnairframer I'm an Aerospace engineer in SoCal. Also an interpreter -- Spanish, German, Swedish & Czech -- but my Japanese is limited. Our common surname means son of little William. The "kin" is Old English for "little" (e.g. napkin is a "little tablecloth") and is cognate with the German suffix "chen."
early photo synthesizers may have been more pink, lavender, blueish or purple (not green). these types and colors of algae are prevalent deeper in the ocean where the light is weaker.
Looking for life on other planets is the most important activity for use of jwst bar none quite why black holes and gravitational waves and other stuff gets more time escapes me.
They can see us as we were several hundred to several thousand years ago depending on their distance from us currently thanks to the laws of relativity and the fact space is so frikken huge.
I am European and I find neither interesting. Grown men kicking a ball on a field of grass or trying to carry an egg-shaped "ball" across a field of grass while bumping their heads with such feriocity that the chance of brain trauma is immensely high doesn't seem like something I would like to do or watch. Maybe I am just ignorant. 🤷♂
@@t_xxic8814 LOL, agreed, but we're risen apes, not fallen angels. I believe sports allow many people to reconnect with our ancient hunter-gatherer past, the hunting as a team, the camaraderie. Or perhaps it's just war on a small scale. As a species, we seem to have a need for conflict and violence. It'll probably be our downfall.
Just what i thought xD but what is this game that is played by so many african, asian, oceanic, australian and south-american people, must be something totally different.
The fermi paradox is usually talked about in terms of long timeframes. What about the perspective of the individual ? Who would want to spend decades travelling to other planets- Maybe no-one?
Bullshit. Who, precisely, are "they"? Do you have anything resembling evidence they exists outside your vivid imagination? No, none. Grow up and lose the gullibility.
Wonder, if the red edge spectrum analyst has a high amount of methane signature. Does that mean perhaps the exsistance of vast herds of herbivores animals.
When Voyager reach Neptune they turn the camera and took a photo of the Earth a tiny little dot of blue and white floating in a dark starry vacuum of space
I heard 3 or 4 months ago that the JWST would announce they have found signs of life in the Trappist system in April 2023. If that turns out to be true then it involves algae?
@@pauliusUwU I can't remember where I heard it. Just thought it was interesting to keep an eye on. I'm guessing that the time to look at the Trappist star system had already been booked well in advance of me hearing that.
How are you still having this conversation? 'They' are here and we've known about each other for multiple decades, if not centuries. Time to take the red pill?
Who is "they"? The UFO community can't agree on what "they" are. It ranges from UFOs being paranormal ghost lights, demons, aliens, ultra terrestrials, skin walkers and the crowd that thinks the only way to interact with aliens is by ingesting DMT. Yet in over 70 years of reports, no one has produced any smoking gun evidence. That's what we're waiting for. We need more than anecdotal evidence to conclude anything.
If we didn’t see anything in our galaxy, that means that if there are intelligent life on it I am sure they are as same advance or less than us. We should start thinking about other intelligent life forms less advance than us…
The idea of life on Earth is ridiculous, not only does it have an atmosphere filtering out high energy photons, it has a magnetic field that deflects high energy particles. How would life energize it's crystalline structures on such a planet? The professor lashed out at the student's audio antennae with a jagged tentacle. Earth was not even tidally locked, the inconsistency of starlight would make the simplest of life a torturous ordeal. The professor remained confident that no life existed on that cold inhospitable planet.
Q: Suppose, hypothetically, there is an "us" currently living on Proxima B. I.e., a civ. at exactly the same tech level as us. They launched their JWST, which is *exactly* identical to ours, just a few years earlier. If they've pointed it at our sun, what do they see, w.r.t. bio-signatures and/or techno-signatures? I mean, on a scale from... 1: "There's a planet about the same size as ours, which *might* have liquid water!" To 10: "There's all this radio noise in a few specific frequency bands... Huh, seems they've standardized on GSM and now the majority of their smartphones are using that instead of CDMA!" To 12: "Geez, that lunatic is *still* saying he won the election two transits ago!" ...what would our endoplanet look like, as seen from there with exactly the same instruments?
JWST doesn't detect radio signals, you need a radio telescope for that. And, I believe most of our radio transmissions are too weak to be detectable above our sun's radio noise (using detection equipment similar to our own current tech). They might pick up some of our strongest radar transmissions, but not using their JWST. I'm no expert, but from what I understand, their JWST could tell them the composition of our atmosphere (including biomarkers), and potentially even that we have plant life (the topic of this video). Beyond that, I'm not sure how much more they would learn. So, maybe a 2 or 3 on your scale. I think they would see enough to convince them that earth has life (cue monumental celebrations) and that they need new/better technologies to take a closer look. Pretty much exactly what would happen here.
"Looks like the aliens finally found us, let's just hope they're into our reality TV shows and fast food. Welcome to Earth, E.T.!" And also it Looks like the aliens are finally here, let's just hope they're not too crazy. I mean, have you seen the state of this planet? They're in for a wild ride.
I'm very sorry but you kill me with "European football". There is only one football, the one you play with your feet and a ball, not your hands. Other than that, enormous channel, a true inspiration!
European football? You mean football, the game where you kick around a ball and are not allowed to pick it up... Space is much more exciting than sportsball 🙂
They should not waste the time they get on the JWST watching tidally locked planets orbting red dwarfs. I refuse to believe there are no better options.
Why can't we make a "lego" type telescope? Send it up in multiple complete pieces & "clip together." The better we got at it, the more pieces could be "clipped" together. Creating far bigger space telescopes with current rocket hold capacity. 🤷♂️
We're looking for alien life on different planets, yet we are putting the constraints of our life upon what we look for. Which version of Life on our planet are we looking for? Is it what's at the poles, is it what's at the equator, or is it the temperate zones, are we looking for high altitude or low altitude? We are looking for our industrial pollution? Maybe they're industrial pollution looks completely different from ours. Alien life is ALIEN to us, unless your looking for us on other worlds. Then it falls back to which climate zone are you looking for.
@ Kal Random, we are looking for atmospheric gasses -- i.e. methane, or oxygen. Earth's atmosphere is in dis-equilibrium, it has a very high oxygen content, much more oxygen than it should have -- this is due to the metabolism of plant-life. Climate zones have nothing to do with it.
The only way that would be even possible is if we just happen to be orbiting between the sun and their eyes. That is very unlikely. The only way we would be able to see earth's atmospheric composition is if we just so happen to see a transit, and that only happens once a year... So they would have to be watching for us year after year. Waiting for us to transit in front of the sun. so yes? unlikely but possible This is why we currently mostly detect giant planets orbiting near their stars. Big and with orbital periods short enough that if we look at the star for a few days we will se something change. These hot Jupiters tend to be way closer to their stars than mercury is to ours. So they would see something is weird in our atmosphere using spectroscopy. But if they/us are further than a few hundred light years we would only see bio signatures not techno signatures,
Can someone settle something for me? A lot of scientists have said that aliens are aware of us because they are receiving our radio broadcasts. But the History Channel used to have a show called "Life After People", where they said our radio signals break up and become just static after about two light years. Anyone know which theory is true?
"As radio waves travel outward from their source - a transmitter - they lose intensity, and fast. The intensity of radio waves over distance obeys the inverse-square law, which states that intensity is inversely proportional to the square of the distance from a source. Think of it this way: double the distance, and you get four times less power. This works the other way around, too, and is crucial to the point we're trying to get across here: halve distance, and received power is increased four times over. So, while you can't always have the freedom to move a receiver as close as you want, shortening the distance by just a few inches can counterintuitively produce dramatically better signal, because of the inverse-square relationship and the capture effect." at some point, i dont remember the distance, the radio waves become over-powered and indistinguishable from the back ground radiation from the big bang. Also this would depend on the strength of the signal so a very weak radio signal like a low power radio antenna is not going to go out very far. I think bio signatures in the atmosphere are what would betray our existence not radio signals.
Ordinary broadcasts, like AM and shortwave are mostly absorbed before they even leave our atmosphere, so yes, before WWII, our radio signals are too weak to be detected by current known detection methods. However, after WWII when high powered, higher frequency military radars were developed using highly directional antennas which beam megawatt pulses that pass right through our atmosphere. These signals are what would give our location away at much greater distances. Using signal processing, which greatly reduces the noise floor because natural noise cancels itself out over time (as many positive peaks as negative peaks), whereas man made signals don't. This method of detecting signals well below the noise floor, correlation, has been used at least as far as the sixties, when computers were available. One BBC science article says they can be detected out to 60 light years. So if we or alien civilizations are searching for other technological civilizations using radio methods, then that would be our best bet, rather than ordinary radio broadcasts. And even then, the time period of a civilization using that sort of technology, would be less than 100 years, probably, before they have moved on to better technology. So the window timeframe would be quite small, as well.
A whole hearted thank you from those of us in developing countries, where these subjects are simply not taught. You John, and your guests, are helping me educate my daughter and I am grateful.
Lisa's voice is dripping with enthusiasm and passion. Love to hear it.
I wish women just weren’t so sultry all the time, just talk, don’t sell it
I seen Lisa from the first page because it's a first comment and I thought Lisa? Isn't Anna, not Lisa 😂 but I got it after 10 sec 😂😅
@@ugiswrong I wish men weren't so oversexed that they thought every word a woman says is a sexual flirtation all the time, just listen, don't embarrass yourself by speaking
@@pollywog7625 well, it's completely natural to be attracted to a woman's voice. Thats how nature is. Sounds and appearances attract one another within species. Thats why mating calls are a thing for some animals. Were basically civilized animals. So shame on you for trying to shame someone for their natural instincts. However we ARE civilized animals. So the original commenter should have just kept the comments about her voice to themselves.
Both of you are wrong in this scenario. :)
I'm like... Wait Anna is doing interviews now too? 😅
I loved how you and Lisa were so encouraging of Johnathan's cool work. You could tell he was anxious during this conversation but it didn't detract at all from the substance.
Great job to all of you!
Idk how to explain this but I have been watching a large enough volume of Godier's videos for a substantial amount of time now and i trust this man, I care for this man, and I see him as a mentor in some ways since I don't have that in my own life much. I have always been a writer and a deep lover of space since I was a kid and his videos have reignated certain passions I had previously mourned losing as my life developed. Thank you John, I will never stop watching.
Oh this is going to be banger. I didn't listen at the podcast edition and I was waiting to go in the bed before I listened. So now it's my favourite part of the week, in bed and listening event horizon! 😊
Me too. What a voice this man has
Ind this hard times. All we can do is too look to the night sky and wonder.
Excellent session, and great hosting as always!
I could listen to this lady for hours... she is so full of enthusiasm
Great episode, John. I love Dr. Kaltenegger's enthusiasm and sense of humor!
Phenomenal conversation
Shout out to Eryn for voicing and demonstrating the SquareSpace ad brilliantly. As a result I watched the ad closely.
Frau Kaltenegger, es ist mir eine Freude Sie in dieser Episode hören zu dürfen.
Wonderful that you have the first Austrian scientist on your channel (as far as I know). Greetings from Vienna! 😊
edit: I didn't know Lisa Kaltenegger has been a guest already. I have to look that episode up right after this one.
This is Dr. Kalteneggers second appearance on the show.
@@EventHorizonShow Just heard it. I have to look that episode up right after I heard this one.
Thank you so much for you content.
@@t_xxic8814 keep up :)
She has a lovely relaxing voice
This is one of my favorite episodes, I listened about 7 times for sure.
Great job not letting Jonathon get squashed too much! Great hosting, fascinating content.
EXCELLENT !! THANKS ! HOST JOHN MICHAEL GODIER & GUEST DR. LISA KALTENEGGER & JONATHAN BATTIENTOS. FROM, U.K. (2023).
Good interview. I know I have probably said this before, but I love the background music you pick for your episodes. Thanks!
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JMG-"Wait a minute WHAT? " LOL
JMG just got the need to know -until publication response.
oh yeah baby .. i happened to look and john dropped a new episode. yaass!!! keep up the brilliant content sir 👏👏
I’ve expected this would be true for a while now. It’s great learning it’s actually possible. Aliens could have known life has been here for millions of years
if we can see the universe. why should not some else be able to ?
and our technolgy isnt even that much developed.. we are still an infant when it comes to cosmic age.
and just the fact that our own eyes are only seeing like 0.1% of the "stuff" that can be seen,
it tells you that there is so much more out there.
dark forest > fermi.
look at out planet. how we enslave this system , how we butcher it.
you think any other civilization will be better ?
it is survival of the fittest.
still.
everywhere.
but for is its capitalism.
what does peaceful even mean ?... or why is it a word ?
and there is life out there in the universe, look at earth , look at the diversity if life,
as if our planet would be the only one....
hi iam the only one in this universe , look at me , iam special (counts for every human)
why haven't they sent a probe to us then?
Who says they haven't? Sent a hell of a lot more than probes
@@Eva_xoxothey could be millions of light years away.
Such a great episode, fantastic guests. Thank you for taking the time and effort.
Do you think Aliens are aware Earth has life on it?
100%
Edit: considering life on earth Is for couple billions of years... And detecting life doesnt mean you have to travel anywhere, just observe...
Imagine, just in this moment, 3billion light years Away a civilization became So advanced to spot an earth size planet And read Its atmosphere properties So they know we have a life form... They May need to be a type 2 civilization fór that.. but if they became a type 2 civilization a million years ago.. we Will know in next 3billion years... Speed od light Is slooooooooooowpoke
Not if they can't see us lol
Which aliens?
Im sure they can its good to have imagination
As if in aliens = a technologically vastly more advanced civilization or intelligence than ours? Sure.
Microbes under 4 km of ice on Venus? Nah. 😅
I love this channel, I learn so much here.
Can't wait to watch this when I'm relaxing in bed, gonna be amazing 🌌🌌🌌
Hello Zorg,! I'm in the backyard waiving!
JMG, the Spice Adams laugh at 12:35 had me absolutely crying from laughter 😂😂 great video as always Event Horizon. Love every guest you have join you
TLDR: of course they can, we live in the surface of the planet and we use massive scale artificial lighting. But even before technology they saw our biosignatures
gosh she sounds amazing!
I am encouraged by how many different people and groups are studying exoplanets and exobiology. Only 50 years ago, it was all just science fiction. In just my lifetime, we've gone from ridicule to "why haven't you found more?" I am curious as to how specific you can get in the red-shift exploration and how specific you might want to get. I know that different types of plants have different IR signatures. Also, using the Carl Sagan model of study (turning your sensors back onto the Earth), we not only have a model for IR detection, but can reverse engineer that because we know the actual result. The study process is verifiable based upon our known bio-parameters. But in this case, if you are looking for a forest, you might miss a tree. Anyway, another great discussion. Hi Eryn, good catch on that great pic.
Can’t wait to hear about the paper!
Can they feels us ?
Only conciousness can overcome
Ower lightspeed restriction.
I more as i get older , l
I start to believe the answer..lies in a higher conciousness.
For comunication ..and very non physical interaction
Grtzz from the Netherlands Johny geerts
woo woo
I'm so excited! When do the papers come out?
What a gem ! Good job.
I have to post this as a comment as the user appears to have blocked me. His comment is below.
My reply: @t_xxic The surface temperature of Venus ranges from about 820 degrees to nearly 900 degrees F. The average surface temperature is 847 degrees F., hot enough to melt lead.
So, zero Km of ice on Venus.
This was so much more enjoyable than the political / Americacentric guests that have been popping up recently. It's your channel to do with as you please but enthusiastic & knowledgable guests who are talking about their area of expertise rather than what they think we should think is a far better listener experience in my opinion.
10x thumbs up & get Lisa back on!
Brilliant video! Amazing to know what the next generation of data might bring!
Absolutely, it's a super exciting time in the _incredibly long history_ (and pre-history) of humanity...and we got lucky enough to be gifted our consciousnesses by the Universe (which *we* fundamentally *are,* as in, we human beings aren't a _part_ of the Universe, we ARE the Universe, just as the Universe is us) at a time that lets us witness, and be a part of this snapshot in time.
We have all of our collective and individual struggles to deal with while we're here, there's no doubt about that, and I hope we continue (I know we will) to help and support more and more of each other as we're facing the huge political, economic, and environmental challenges of our time. I just hope that we never forget to look up from time to time.
Everyone should read : Three Body Problem 😁 best sci fi trilogy ever !
We need to hide our red edge immediately!
If it's really the best, I think that's debateable, but it's one of my favourites as well.
There is sooo much, *ahem*, "tension" between John and Lisa 😉
Thank you
You’re welcome… my son
i would say if we ever "encounter" life outside our planet it will be either a. they are 2-3k years (god help us not more) ahead of us and pray they are peaceful because they find us.
or b. we think it may exist because we continue to use "our" model....because it's the only model we know to exist...so we focus on it. We keep looking for us...we should be focusing on them. :D
Edit...thats the fun part. we keep looking for us and i get it...but either we are absolutely unique or we are not. We are very special...or we are not. Hard pill to choose. That or we are lazy with no imagination (sorry hard truths). If you focus on us...it's because we are special and unique. Because to be fair, we are until proven otherwise. ...and that's why we keep looking for us. To prove we are not special or unique.
;)
So then we could see a planet blanketed in black-leafed plant life orbiting a red dwarf? What a strange and wonderous sight that would be!
Are there any known or inferred biochemical processes on earth that use lower energy red photons to perform oxygenic photosynthesis? Everything I've read about M dwarf stars' planets tells me that there are no known biochemical pathways that we know of that could take advantage of the energy transferred to a molecule from red wavelengths but if anyone has an example of paper they could point me to I'll read it.
Starts 2:52
This was a fun one. Want to know what's in the papers!
at first, amazing meant "caught in a maze" and "stupefied" or "dreadful" were the word senses, 15c. being caught long enough to die of thirst or starve was the extreme sense of the word amazing="to despair". my mind goes directly to stupefied or struck stupid whenever anyone says "amazing!"
The lightspeed bubble for radio communications is maybe seventy five years. I'll now watch the video.
Nice it’s Thursday new episode of Event Horizon ☺️
It will really be an interesting day if we ever see that red edge from a telescope. Also, am I super behind the game here? I just noticed the 'Shop' tab. Has that Event Horizon merch always been there? None of the links seem to work 😢 How can I continue without my Event Horizon coffee mug?!
Links should work, will look into it!
@@EventHorizonShow It may be my location. Perhaps the store won't let me order from Japan. The prices are appearing in Yen, but the buttons to "View on Spring" are greyed out.
Great surname!
@@douglaswilkinson5700 Bro, did we just become best friends?!
@@usnairframer I'm an Aerospace engineer in SoCal. Also an interpreter -- Spanish, German, Swedish & Czech -- but my Japanese is limited. Our common surname means son of little William. The "kin" is Old English for "little" (e.g. napkin is a "little tablecloth") and is cognate with the German suffix "chen."
I hope we find life before my time is up.
So....direct would be getting a spectrum from the back side.. when that Sun is shining on and reflecting from day side?
The commercial went on forever.
I've told you seventy million times not to exaggerate!
early photo synthesizers may have been more pink, lavender, blueish or purple (not green). these types and colors of algae are prevalent deeper in the ocean where the light is weaker.
Looking for life on other planets is the most important activity for use of jwst bar none quite why black holes and gravitational waves and other stuff gets more time escapes me.
They are probably following the comment section right now. LOL
They take one look at us, roll up the windows, and drive away quickly.
I love Lisa’s voice she can come and read me a bed time story
Awesome Sauce - looking forward to house sized cabbages
They can see us as we were several hundred to several thousand years ago depending on their distance from us currently thanks to the laws of relativity and the fact space is so frikken huge.
Hence we'll never have contact. Ever. "Frikken huge" is the issue.
I used to think colour purple is in the favour of life, more than green.
purple, red, bluish-green, green, pink, and lavender are common algae colors
Life as we know it comes in a variety of colors.
European football?! ❤
Just to allow Americans to understand it's not what they think of as football. I guess.
I am European and I find neither interesting. Grown men kicking a ball on a field of grass or trying to carry an egg-shaped "ball" across a field of grass while bumping their heads with such feriocity that the chance of brain trauma is immensely high doesn't seem like something I would like to do or watch. Maybe I am just ignorant. 🤷♂
@@t_xxic8814 LOL, agreed, but we're risen apes, not fallen angels. I believe sports allow many people to reconnect with our ancient hunter-gatherer past, the hunting as a team, the camaraderie. Or perhaps it's just war on a small scale. As a species, we seem to have a need for conflict and violence. It'll probably be our downfall.
Just what i thought xD but what is this game that is played by so many african, asian, oceanic, australian and south-american people, must be something totally different.
@@Von_Daheim LOL Well, Rugby is more or less American Football for people with no regard for their own or anyone elses health to me. ;O)
The fermi paradox is usually talked about in terms of long timeframes.
What about the perspective of the individual ?
Who would want to spend decades travelling to other planets-
Maybe no-one?
If your sun is going to nova soon that would be a good reason to travel out. Maybe most aliens wait to long to travel out.
Great video !
Yay it’s Thursday 🕺🏻
They’ve been seen for as long as mankind’s been keeping records. Of course they know we’re here.
It's veerry quite on the communication front ...absolute silence out there in space....great episode
Bullshit. Who, precisely, are "they"? Do you have anything resembling evidence they exists outside your vivid imagination? No, none. Grow up and lose the gullibility.
Wonder, if the red edge spectrum analyst has a high amount of methane signature.
Does that mean perhaps the exsistance of vast herds of herbivores animals.
I am glad James Web launched and Jonathan got into his first ( maybe only ) choice of phd project
There are some lovely voices on this show
When Voyager reach Neptune they turn the camera and took a photo of the Earth a tiny little dot of blue and white floating in a dark starry vacuum of space
Thank you, Carl Sagan.
I wonder: Can you tell biogenic carbon dioxide apart from carbon dioxide from regular old inorganic carbon dioxide through spectroscopy?
Lisa has the same sparkle in her voice like Anne Druyen
I heard 3 or 4 months ago that the JWST would announce they have found signs of life in the Trappist system in April 2023. If that turns out to be true then it involves algae?
what else happens in the future.. when do the lions win the super bowl?
- Source?
- It was revealed to me in a dream.
@@pauliusUwU I can't remember where I heard it. Just thought it was interesting to keep an eye on. I'm guessing that the time to look at the Trappist star system had already been booked well in advance of me hearing that.
Believe non of what you hear and half of what you see. Twain, maybe? You seem to be a poor witness
@@element5377: Never.
a type III civilization could have a galaxy spanning telescopic array
How are you still having this conversation? 'They' are here and we've known about each other for multiple decades, if not centuries. Time to take the red pill?
Who is "they"? The UFO community can't agree on what "they" are. It ranges from UFOs being paranormal ghost lights, demons, aliens, ultra terrestrials, skin walkers and the crowd that thinks the only way to interact with aliens is by ingesting DMT. Yet in over 70 years of reports, no one has produced any smoking gun evidence. That's what we're waiting for. We need more than anecdotal evidence to conclude anything.
Aliens would have to know we are here. We leave the lights on all night, every night!
Just got into bed, time to fall into the event horizon 🪐
I was very nervous about james web launch if it was not successful it would have taken decades longer
If you tell the aliens how much we spend on war vs everything else we do don’t expect a return call in the near future
If we didn’t see anything in our galaxy, that means that if there are intelligent life on it I am sure they are as same advance or less than us. We should start thinking about other intelligent life forms less advance than us…
have you read about the three body problem? if you don’t have time and mind spoilers, getting told about it from ytbers is also worth it
@@realmcafee Three Body Problem is the best sci fi book ever , you should also read : The Killing Star
The idea of life on Earth is ridiculous, not only does it have an atmosphere filtering out high energy photons, it has a magnetic field that deflects high energy particles. How would life energize it's crystalline structures on such a planet? The professor lashed out at the student's audio antennae with a jagged tentacle. Earth was not even tidally locked, the inconsistency of starlight would make the simplest of life a torturous ordeal. The professor remained confident that no life existed on that cold inhospitable planet.
Fantastic interview as usual, John! Thanks a bunch! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Q: Suppose, hypothetically, there is an "us" currently living on Proxima B. I.e., a civ. at exactly the same tech level as us. They launched their JWST, which is *exactly* identical to ours, just a few years earlier. If they've pointed it at our sun, what do they see, w.r.t. bio-signatures and/or techno-signatures?
I mean, on a scale from...
1: "There's a planet about the same size as ours, which *might* have liquid water!"
To 10: "There's all this radio noise in a few specific frequency bands... Huh, seems they've standardized on GSM and now the majority of their smartphones are using that instead of CDMA!"
To 12: "Geez, that lunatic is *still* saying he won the election two transits ago!"
...what would our endoplanet look like, as seen from there with exactly the same instruments?
JWST doesn't detect radio signals, you need a radio telescope for that. And, I believe most of our radio transmissions are too weak to be detectable above our sun's radio noise (using detection equipment similar to our own current tech). They might pick up some of our strongest radar transmissions, but not using their JWST.
I'm no expert, but from what I understand, their JWST could tell them the composition of our atmosphere (including biomarkers), and potentially even that we have plant life (the topic of this video). Beyond that, I'm not sure how much more they would learn. So, maybe a 2 or 3 on your scale. I think they would see enough to convince them that earth has life (cue monumental celebrations) and that they need new/better technologies to take a closer look. Pretty much exactly what would happen here.
"Looks like the aliens finally found us, let's just hope they're into our reality TV shows and fast food. Welcome to Earth, E.T.!" And also it Looks like the aliens are finally here, let's just hope they're not too crazy. I mean, have you seen the state of this planet? They're in for a wild ride.
where am i
I love that you say European football but what you mean is everyone but America foodball
I'm very sorry but you kill me with "European football". There is only one football, the one you play with your feet and a ball, not your hands. Other than that, enormous channel, a true inspiration!
Europa n é o mundo mano
They really should rename ‘American Football’, ‘Bastardised Rugby’ to avoid the constant annoying confusion..
If they are within 100 light years Yes they do. Much beyond that No they don’t know or likely care.
Yeah...they can see us.
2:52 You're not allowed to say that word on youtube.
Duuude! 😅
European football? You mean football, the game where you kick around a ball and are not allowed to pick it up...
Space is much more exciting than sportsball 🙂
Being European I agree. Soccer is boring. Most other ball games are boring. Space is infinitely more interesting.
Except for NBA basketball. 😅
Tut tut "European Football" 🙄 great listen as ever though
Eryn will not say "soccer" (it's in her contract). She calls football "hand egg" too.
They should not waste the time they get on the JWST watching tidally locked planets orbting red dwarfs. I refuse to believe there are no better options.
Totally agree
IF I were an Alien?
Humans are the last MFers I'd contact!
Why can't we make a "lego" type telescope?
Send it up in multiple complete pieces & "clip together."
The better we got at it, the more pieces could be "clipped" together.
Creating far bigger space telescopes with current rocket hold capacity. 🤷♂️
We're looking for alien life on different planets, yet we are putting the constraints of our life upon what we look for. Which version of Life on our planet are we looking for? Is it what's at the poles, is it what's at the equator, or is it the temperate zones, are we looking for high altitude or low altitude? We are looking for our industrial pollution? Maybe they're industrial pollution looks completely different from ours. Alien life is ALIEN to us, unless your looking for us on other worlds. Then it falls back to which climate zone are you looking for.
@ Kal Random, we are looking for atmospheric gasses -- i.e. methane, or oxygen. Earth's atmosphere is in dis-equilibrium, it has a very high oxygen content, much more oxygen than it should have -- this is due to the metabolism of plant-life.
Climate zones have nothing to do with it.
Could we see us?
The only way that would be even possible is if we just happen to be orbiting between the sun and their eyes. That is very unlikely.
The only way we would be able to see earth's atmospheric composition is if we just so happen to see a transit, and that only happens once a year... So they would have to be watching for us year after year. Waiting for us to transit in front of the sun.
so yes? unlikely but possible
This is why we currently mostly detect giant planets orbiting near their stars. Big and with orbital periods short enough that if we look at the star for a few days we will se something change. These hot Jupiters tend to be way closer to their stars than mercury is to ours.
So they would see something is weird in our atmosphere using spectroscopy. But if they/us are further than a few hundred light years we would only see bio signatures not techno signatures,
Carl Sagan said there's nobody
The Kalteneggers and Schwarzeneggers have been rivals for millenia
Can someone settle something for me? A lot of scientists have said that aliens are aware of us because they are receiving our radio broadcasts. But the History Channel used to have a show called "Life After People", where they said our radio signals break up and become just static after about two light years. Anyone know which theory is true?
Pure speculations my dear Watson.
"As radio waves travel outward from their source - a transmitter - they lose intensity, and fast. The intensity of radio waves over distance obeys the inverse-square law, which states that intensity is inversely proportional to the square of the distance from a source.
Think of it this way: double the distance, and you get four times less power. This works the other way around, too, and is crucial to the point we're trying to get across here: halve distance, and received power is increased four times over. So, while you can't always have the freedom to move a receiver as close as you want, shortening the distance by just a few inches can counterintuitively produce dramatically better signal, because of the inverse-square relationship and the capture effect."
at some point, i dont remember the distance, the radio waves become over-powered and indistinguishable from the back ground radiation from the big bang. Also this would depend on the strength of the signal so a very weak radio signal like a low power radio antenna is not going to go out very far.
I think bio signatures in the atmosphere are what would betray our existence not radio signals.
yes.. signal attenuates according to the square of the distance.. r squared law of signal degradation/weakening
Ordinary broadcasts, like AM and shortwave are mostly absorbed before they even leave our atmosphere, so yes, before WWII, our radio signals are too weak to be detected by current known detection methods. However, after WWII when high powered, higher frequency military radars were developed using highly directional antennas which beam megawatt pulses that pass right through our atmosphere. These signals are what would give our location away at much greater distances. Using signal processing, which greatly reduces the noise floor because natural noise cancels itself out over time (as many positive peaks as negative peaks), whereas man made signals don't. This method of detecting signals well below the noise floor, correlation, has been used at least as far as the sixties, when computers were available. One BBC science article says they can be detected out to 60 light years. So if we or alien civilizations are searching for other technological civilizations using radio methods, then that would be our best bet, rather than ordinary radio broadcasts. And even then, the time period of a civilization using that sort of technology, would be less than 100 years, probably, before they have moved on to better technology. So the window timeframe would be quite small, as well.
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I’ve been listening for a while and these are all starting to sound the same. I guess there’s only so much info for now.
Interesting. This interview is about a new paper with groundbreaking model for how to find alien life
Yes, God knows we are here.
lmao