Table Making with Festool's Domino XL 700
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Here's an alternative to the traditional mortise and tenon that can be done very quickly. While the tool is expensive, it is fast and effective. In this video I demonstrate how it can be used to make a table base, specifically the joint between the aprons and the legs.
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You convinced me that this is the only way to build tables. So, I'm buying the XL 700 tomorrow. Thanks for the great instructional videos!
I wish I got a commission!
Just got my XL 700 and used it exactly the way you show in your video. The sales guy left me with a bunch of 8 x 80's. I hope those will be strong enough. If you have an opinion about what size I should use, please share! Thanks again.
For dinning tables I use the largest dominos. 14X140. Two in each joint, 16 total per table base.
Thanks again. I'm subscribed now.
People don't forget about the absolute joy of marking out your tenons with a knife and the feeling when you see the shoulders you cut meet perfectly with the table leg.Obviously not for busy production but every now and then to remind yourself why You love woodwork. Great tool. Great video.
Agreed, but for my case I'm rolling on this customer work and need advantages like this. With that said, I just made a table last week that was all mortise and tenon, so it's not always the route I go. This particular table was really big so I wanted the tenons as large and strong as possible. On the same tone of your comment, I could easily buy a dovetail jig but have only cut them buy hand and I've probably cut a miles worth of them using a saw and chisel. Thanks for the comment.
Dovetail are the strongest joints for tables as they cannot be pulled out or get loose and come out. A good dovetail table could last a lifetime but people need to understand they cost more money.
This tool makes joints in wood really easy, quick, very accurate and plenty strong and pays for itself very quickly.
It's also very versatile, portable and dust free. They are brilliant.
Good video with a great demonstration.
Wow! you really pack in the information (usually I have to speed up these videos!) Thanks for being so informative! Looking forward to exploring your videos :D
Love the way you explain things so even a beginner can follow up thanks.
Love seeing the progression of your build process. True craftsman ship with the turned legs and all. A lot of people see just a price tag when they look at furniture, but just don't understand how much work goes into an heirloom table like the ones you make. Awesome work. All your videos are a big inspiration for me.
Thank you. People are so saturated by products through constant advertising where mass produced furniture has a good look for a cheap price and it can be difficult to perceive the difference to some. But there is definitely a difference in quality, appearance and longevity. Most furniture is on a one way street to the landfill where as furniture like this gets better with age and can always be refinished if needed. Sounds like I'm tooting my own horn.....but it's true.
I just wanted to say I really enjoy your channel. Thank you for making them and keep it up.
Very informative instructions. You always craft your words so even if a novice were reading this they would not be thrown off and would give it a try when they felt able.
Thanks
The tool is cheap compared to its impact in the shop , very wonderful video thank you.
Tools that save labor pay for themselves in short order. Great demo on this tool.
Enjoyed it.
Thank you.
I just bought this machine. Still getting use to it. But is great tool speeding up work greatly. Thanks.
I really appreciate the time you take to explain the tool. No one goes into the basics as well as you do. Maybe you could make some more videos on the rest of Festools products. Thanks.
When I'm doing a dry run to make sure everything is in line I use sanded down domino's so they go in and out of the joints easily. Mark them as sample assembly domino's for you other projects.
Good idea.
Excellent idea! I'm going to start doing that as well.
great tip!!!
This should be the ‘how to manual’ for the Domino! Great Job and now I want one even more!
thank you for sharing! one thing that I have found to be helpful is to try not to drill dead centre but always so that it is visible what the reference side has been. Just a couple of mm is enough, and it makes it fool proof avoiding to reference from the wrong side.
Not a bad idea. Thanks for watching.
Evangelos Himonides I mark the top of the aprons as "top" with an arrow to the outside face prior to drilling the mortises. This way I don't screw up the mortises or the assembly. The pencil marks easily sands of after assembly.
Ive been drooling over the Domino for a while I know it's costly. But I think it can very quickly pay for itself. Nice video. Very informative. Thanks for sharing.
It paid for it's self the first time I used it several times over.
I was able to watch a demo in person but never able to use one. It's on the TOP of my list as my next tool purchase.
Hi, super video. I got one of those XL700 half a ago, I can just agree, it is awsome!Now Festool even have launched some metal dovels, that You can screw together, making it possible to take your projects apart if needed. Great for moving ,as the Wood Whisper is doing nowKeep up these nice videos comming
that will for sure save you some time. man that tool is slick.
Thanks for showing how easy it is to use!!
It is slick, that's a good word for it. It's the kind of tool you imagine, then someone makes it. The way it works looks kind of crazy, wobbling all around, but it works perfect. Thanks for watching.
Great video, when the first Domino hit the US market in '06 it changed my work, building cabinets, furniture, entry doors. I no longer use dados, grooves or rabbets. It made my work go faster with simpler joints. I also use pencil marks for the majority of my mortises. On glue up tops I make one board the tightest width mortise and the adjoining board the second width mortise. Gives me some wiggle room but keeps the top surface flush. I now use the XL for doors and tables...
Cool, I've used mine for table tops, table bases, an easel and my new shop doors. As you know, you can have all your mortises cut in about the time it would take you just to get set up with other tools. I'm a fan.
I also purchased a second Domino 500 that permanently has the domino plate attach to it for 3/4" & 1/2" mortises is sheet goods. Makes for very quick carcass assembly. You can also get bit adaptors for the XL, so you can use the 500 bits on that tool...
Yeah, the value of these tools is up there. If I had a reason to, I'd consider getting more than one just not to have to change bits but I mainly just use the big one. When it comes to making things easy on your self and keeping a good attitude I'm not against spending money to avoid hurdles to working fast and smooth.......and that's coming from a cheapskate and these tools aren't cheap!
Congrats on the new tool purchase...What a great tool to have. It has to save you a lot of time.
Well deserved.
Thanks
Nice explanation. I love my domino XL. I've been using it for a few years. Seneca woodworking makes accessories that allow the 700 to use the bits for the 500. I purchased those as well and it's basically like having both machines. I've also found that the domino works well for breadboard ends. I did a video on it a while back. Love that tool man. Nice work!
I'm planing on getting the seneca adapter myself. I've actually seen your video a while ago when I was thinking about buying the 700, I enjoyed watching it. Here's the link for those who would like to watch it. ruclips.net/video/xQmZNR6sGnE/видео.html Thanks for watching.
The Homestead Craftsman thanks man. I appreciate that. You won't regret getting the Seneca stuff. Putting them on and taking them off is a little annoying but it's well worth saving $800.
Thank you for the clear instructions and advice. I always appreciate the effort you seem to put into developing a quality video for us to enjoy. Have a great day, God bless.
Glad you liked it, you've been leaving comments for a while now. I enjoy seeing you pop up in the comments.
The Homestead Craftsman Thanks, I certainly enjoy watching your videos and commenting on them. Your overall speed, rhythm, and practical thinking keep me coming back for more. As well as your creative, and quality, work/solutions. Keep it up!
Your videos are excellent, great information, great advice, great production, thanks for all your effort...Greetings from Fremantle, Australia
I'm very glad you enjoy them, I do think I have some room to improve though, especially in production. I need a better camera and maybe some better lighting for filming.....but that will come in time.
this tool has paid for itslef..in the first month of me using it!! I love it never work without it!!
I build a new table for Thanksgiving every year (and tear it down the next day, every year as well) because we usually seat somewhere between 12-18 people on our patio in Florida. Normally, I use plywood with edge banding and a simple frame that's stained as we never put cloth over wood (even if its ply). Last year I did a picnic style one and painted the legs. This video inspired me for next year to build an actual table in the style of your farmhouse table . . . and I already have the DF 700. Thanks! Subbed. :-)
I have plans for my tables if you're interested, although I'm guessing that you might not need plans. www.thehomesteadcraftsman.com/p/plans.html
Good video, clear demonstration of the tool and workpieces.
I really enjoy your videos and the way you offer a practical, concise overview of a tool without getting too deep into it. Very easy to follow, too. I have the DF500 and love the damned thing. The 700 is on my wish list but since I don't earn much money with my wood exploits, I can't justify the expense just yet. one of these days, tho 😂 😂
Great explanation. I have the DF500 for my small furniture builds. Still used my Jet Morticer for anything larger for now... I should probably try loose tenons for that too until I buy the XL.
Nice work with the domino and what looks like a dewalt radial arm saw in the background.
Thanks...I've got two of them, Dewalt MBF 9 inch.
have you considered using the DF700 connectors on the long apron ends for making it so you can take apart
Awesome overview of the 700. I've got the 500 and it's a wonderful machine. Great video as always!
Thanks Chris, I wouldnt mind having the 500 also........probably won't go that route but it would be handy for smaller projects. I plan on getting the seneca adapter to use the 500 bits with it.
Bought one a couple of years ago. Built two new custom garage doors. I think I saved about 10% overall vs. buying new big box doors.
Not bad and you get to keep the tool for other projects.
Thanks so much for the informative video. Currently building a table for my daughter. Sure would be nice to use one of these.
If you were next door we could knock out the joints in 10 minutes!
I have this and love it. I use it on EVERYTHING. I will admit it took me a little time to figure out some of my weird angle cuts, etc but overall I love it.
That's what I hear from everyone owns one, that they love it. If you don't mind, I'm asking questions here and there to differnt people that leave comments. Are you a subscriber or was this your first video of mine? If so, how did you find it, searching for this tool, recommended video, etc.? Thanks.
Subscriber. I think I originally did a search on grizzly bandsaws and came across your video on picking your up. From there I've been watching your videos along with other wood workers I like to watch.
Thank you.
No problem at all. thank you!
Great tool but all Festool stuff is eye-wateringly expensive unless it’s gonna get a lot of use. I use dowels for loose tenons- much slower but with a variety of dowel guide blocks it can be pretty accurate and repeatable. Thanks for sharing another great video 👍🏻🍻
Good video! I'm thinking of getting a domino 700 and this helped me out.
It's a great tool. Here's a link. amzn.to/2sMxHf6
Great video!! I noticed that you put the glue only in the mortises and tenons, but not on the face of the leg and apron, is that enough? I guess this way you have much less to wipe off the squeezed out glue; but there is no glue joint between the les and the apron. I might be missing something ?? Thanks in advance for your reply
I always that that tool looked like a plastic cheap tool. Thanks for this detailed review, I will get one soon now!
Well that's quite a flip flop.....but your welcome.
Did you know you can also use the 700 to make a mortise in the aprons for a homemade table top fastener,
for expansion and contraction.
Nice viedo fast and to the point, Got to get that t-shirt!!!
I was wondering when you were gonna pick up the domino, that's the next tool on my list. Great info!
I've had it for a while now, 3 months or so. I'm really liking it. It's a precision tool and does it's job perfect. It's biggest advantage is it's ease of use and speed. It's also the kind of tool that can make someone who does not have the time or skill to be able to build things that would not be possible for them. I also really the fact that it's small and doing the job of a big tool. Tools like the domino and track saw really make things easy in regards to materials handling, your not wrestling a heavy board across or to a tool. You instead take the tool to the wood, they nailed it with that. You can just keep going with the advantages of some of there tools. I'm looking forward to seeing what they come up with in the future.
The Homestead Craftsman you hit the nail on the head, a small handheld tool that can do the same quality work (sometimes even better quality work) as the "traditional" tools, in a fraction of the time. And for guys like us who work out of their garage, it really becomes priceless.
And still cheaper than a floor model equivalent.
Good to watch, just bought the same tool and off to make a table same as yours. Cheers.
Cool. I'd like to see what you make. On a side note....was this the first video that you have seen of mine, if so, did you find it searching or did it pop up as a recommended video?
Well I looked at your video a while back on how you made tables. This time I just did a search on tables again, think I went first to the English Polisher as he works from Harrogate, Yorkshire not far from where I used to live years back.
very nice tool very informative video as always. I'm gonna have to look into getting one of those soon.
Great video...love the channel
I have the 500 and wish I had more uses for it
I wouldn't mind having the 500 as well for certain stuff, but I don't think I would use it often. I'm going to get the Seneca adapter for using the 500 bits on the 700 so I have the full range. I mainly bought mine for one project that I'm working on where the price is many times more than the cost of the tool and the tool is going to make it possible to build the project and a reasonable amount of time....otherwise I probably would not have taken on the job.
I bought the seneca adapter for use with the 6mm bit; it works as advertised. However, I may, someday get the 500 as well. My thought is that if I develop a need for the smaller tenons, the 700 will just be too big to wield effectively.
Yeah, that's why I'd like to have it, but imagine I would only go small on occasion and get by with the adapter but if I developed a new product that relied heavy on smaller dominos I too would buy it.
Thanks for another great demo!
Your welcome.
nice video....very simple instructions. kinda makes me want to get one.
Well if you do, click the link under the video if you don't mind. I just set up an account through amazon associates to where if people buy something as a result of clicking on a link I post I get a small percentage. That occurs even if you buy something unrelated to the link under the video even. Just a way for to support the channel while doing shopping a person would be doing any way. Let me know if you have any questions about it.
this is a cool video in reference to this video I'd like to see how your duplicator works for making those legs in greater detail
Ive been wanting to do that for a while now. What I'd really like to do is remake it in a way that would be simple for others to reproduce and do plans for it. It's such a handy tool and a lot of people could benefit from it.
I could benefit from it greatly since I do so much wood turning but ppl know I can build things from wood a duplicator for me just a simple one no grinder just a basic one would help me out and that's what I want from your channel, how to make tools that are useful to me with out braking the bank
How long is the table you made here? Trying to figure out what max span will work for a farmhouse table I want to build. Thz
Great video... think I will start saving for this!!
It's a wonderful tool
I'm looking for a small square hole maker like a mortise machine but as expensive. That machine makes rounded holes.
How's the festool domino machine holding up? I need to add one to my arsenal.
very nicely done that should speed up the process for you. where do you get the legs for your tables?
I turn them on a lathe.
Hi HC, What kind of 2x6 do you buy @ the box store ? Kiln dry or reg. Doug Fur. And if they don't have kd. do you let the DF dry out ? What percentage of moisture in the wood do you like to see before you build your tables?
Thanks Daniel
For making this kind of table, don't worry, just get yourself some 2x6's from lowes, home depot, etc. Mine are spruce. I don't check the moisture. I normally make my tables right when I buy the lumber.
Thanks !!!
I never buy lumber from the big box stores. First it too expensive, second it’s inferior. Go to a real lumber yard.
Hi, I watch a you tube channel "GP Woodworks and he was getting the dust pipe caught all the time so he used some sheathing "GP71" to stop this and also take the electric cord together with the pipe. It might seem not worth doing but he has wound it very helpful.
The hose is a battle sometime, that's why festool makes the arm that goes on the vac to hang the hose above you. When I'm sanding a table top I bungee cord the hose and wire to a pipe over my work bench, makes it much easier but keeps the vac over and out of the way. Thanks for the comment John
Thanks for the informative video! I love your channel.
Nice video my friend. Informative and well done.
I was surprised by the time savings you get when using some of Festool's stuff. That alone pays for the tool.
Combine that with accuracy, mobility and dust collection and then you start to understand why they are so valuable.
Great tutorial.
Thank you.
I've got a decent jig for doweling, are these dominoes enough better to be worth switching? Seems like an expensive tool, more for fast production than home woodworker.
Everything is relative in my opinion. What one person thinks is expensive, the next will not. Also, how much value a person gets out of it comes into play. That value can be financial, time, satisfaction, etc. Plenty of professionals use them and plenty of hobbiests use them....my guess more than pros. I also think people get hung up on its size with it being a hand tool. A floor model horizontal mortiser would be more expensive and no one would think different, where as for me this tool is better in speed and size. I don't have to over handle materials, I take the tool where needed. But for me it's speed. This tool makes it possible for me to make money about twice as fast when making tables. I can't speak to whether it is worth switching for you, but without even knowing what jig you have I would pick the Domino hands down...but that's according to my work. Hope that helps.
Thanks for the info and the reply.
Suffer in your jocks getting used to metric mate, now you know how it feels for us Aussies trying to decipher fractions lol 😂, you have a very good channel & keep up the great content 👍🏻🇦🇺, ps do you rate pocket hole joinery ?
Ha. Not sure what you mean "do I rate pocket hole joinery?" I have a Kreg K5 Jig. It works great, I use it a lot for a variety of stuff, most of my shop furniture utilizes it as well as jigs. I also use it in my furniture but not that much, for example attaching bench seats to their bases.
Sumo's Projects thanks to jimmy carter, he stopped us from using the metric system. Heard about changing to metric system in 4th grade in 1969. They want Americans to dumb down, even more.
Metric system is so easy. The yanks don’t use it because they did not invent it
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The metric system is not better. Anybody who claims this simply does not understand geometry.
The only reason the guy in this video is using metric is because the tool is metric. In the UK people will still use imperial even though metric is the law.
People will claim that millimeter is more accurate yet they do not use an accurate methodology with millimeter.
Wood in the UK is still sold in imperial. Electrical fittings in the UK are metric while plumbing still uses imperial.
I will again repeat metric is not better than imperial. They are two systems that work and whatever you are used to is the best. I use both imperial and metric.
Nice table, not bad tool too.
Hi, What kind of 2x6 do you buy @ the box store ? Kiln dry or reg. fur Thanks Daniel
do you feel the need for the smaller dominoer? do you think you could get away with the multiple smaller dominos
Bigger is better. Unless you make tiny things only, the bigger one is better for furniture. You can get a Sennaca adapter and use the smaller bits on the larger machine.
great tool ,my next one
One of the first tools I ever bought.
That's a big one of your first tool purchases!
and the bravest one
Simon Hopkins
Yeah, I was quivering myself when I clicked the buy button!
had to take my wife shopping in London to make up for it once she saw the receipt ha ha ha.
New here. Just wanted to say this was a great well detailed video. Well done.👏🏾👏🏾👍🏾😊 I recently bought the 500, but have decided to return it and go for the big boy XL700 instead. Heard there was an aftermarket adapter you can buy to do smaller stock with this machine. Have you tried that or have never heard of it?
Quick question on your process of milling the lumber - I've only seen a few videos at this point of yours. It seems you're mostly just thickness planing wood? Do you face joint to get a reference face at all? Just curious of your process. Thanks
Most of the furniture I am making now does not need that level of precision. I'm making mostly farm tables. But when I am making "nicer" furniture I use a jointer. As said, most of my projects don't need perfect squareness for table bases, etc.
Hey great video, I was wondering how you get woodworking customers?
Wow, that would be a boon to making cabinets & other things. Wonder if they can be rented?
Thanks
I'm going to say no on rental, but who knows........... but you can use a range of sizes with both machines from very small to 14mm tenons. It is very handy and nothing touches it in speed. I don't know when they filed the patent, but once it runs out I'm sure most all the companies will be making their version, but for now.......you looking at $1400 to get one.
WOW.... But cheap if you use it like you seem to be doing. Not good for a person with just a single project.
Thanks
Agree, but I've made certain pieces of furniture that I have bought tools for and I could have thrown the tool in the trash afterward and it would still have been worth it. You won't see me doing that with this tool, but some tools save you that much time or even are what make it possible/feasible to even make the project at all. I've got nothing to do with festool, but I stand behind my track saw and domino 700.
Excellent video, great info!
Thanks for making the video!
That tool looks so nice is it as strong as the other .Ty for sharing
I'm assuming you mean, is a domino joint as strong as a mortise and tenon? In that case I say, It depends. I don't think you can get any stronger than a traditional mortise and tenon joint in a table like mine. Are dominoes strong enough, I think so. I plan on doing some tests and making a video of it . My thought on it is you have to plan accordingly. I could also probably put 3 dominoes in that joint if needed. Like I said, I've done a few with them and they seem good and I abused them a little to check plus I accidentally slammed one of the legs when carrying the base out of my basement. So under normal circumstances, I think that they are good but not sure if they are exactly equal to my dimension tenon. Time will tell and I'll report back
Sorry just realised i did not finish what i stared getting kids to school and trying to have a coffee and watching youtube yep that all works lol yes that is what i meant to say i am sorry love your videos i love wood working my hubby and i made a table and when it leaned up against the wall it was fine but i am band from going near any more power tools lol keep the awesome work and ty again for sharing next time i will wait till the kids go to school lol
Are you happy with the 700, vs the 500? I'm about to pull the tiger on the 500, I also build tables and haven't been able to make up my mind on the one or the other.
It was the one for me, I make tables so I use the 14mm dominos. I also use 8mm for certain things.....which is pretty small. With an adapter you can use the 500 cutters on the 700.......personally, unless you exclusively make small stuff, I'd get the big one.
I'll be ordering next week. Do you joint your table tops with the Domino?
Only if I'm doing a really smooth top, for my farm tables I use my biscuit joiner. Biscuits are cheaper and alignment isn't critical. I mainly use it for joinery in place of traditional mortise and tenons........and what ever else I think of.
Thank you so much. I've enjoyed watching your videos! I've recently stepped into the world of shop production, from my home. It's helped having guys such as yourself giving great advice. Have a wonderful Thanksgiving!!
Do you make your own table legs on a lathe or do you buy those? If bought, where?
I turn them. Most with a duplicator i made, video on channel. If i’m making one set i just turn it by hand.
I have a question about the mortise depth/tenon length and glue-up. Sure you have to make the mortise a bit deeper than the half of tenon length to avoid a visible gap between the leg and the apron. 1 or 2 mm per mortise is enough I guess. This means that there will be a gap on one end of the tenon after glueup. Do you think it matters whether to glue the aprons first (as you did) or the legs first. I am thinkig of the relation between that few mm gap and the grain orientation. With usual mortise-tenon joint the tenon would be on the apron-side, so it is similar to what you have done. Does it make any difference in theory?
Very informative and entertaining video, thank you.
The gap you are referring to does not make a difference. Long grain to long grain is the only thing that matters. Aprons first, legs first makes no difference. I just like doing the tenons into the aprons first. I think you may be over thinking this one, you just smear glue on everything and put it together. On a sort of side note, the tool cuts the mortises about 2mm deeper than the tenon is long (assuming you are using festools dominoes and not making your own)
Thank you. Keep makin videos, they are very informative.
Thanks for a great vid just ordered one !!!
Have fun
Thanks for the video. Quick question...how do you price your tables?
I've been using a dewalt biscuit joiner for some time but never dove into the festool domino because of the price ($around 1000). Is the time savings worth it over using a table saw to make the tenon and a mortiser? I am guessing it is but the price is really making me hold off.
It depends what you use it for, for table legs to aprons a biscuit joiner isn't going to do much and would be very weak, in short a bad idea. For gluing tops biscuits are good, but not as accurate as a domino. Mine was $1400, www.mcfeelys.com/festool-227/power-tools/joiners-planers/domino-joiner-df-700-set-qty-1-24k396.html It is warp speed fast. Is it the answer to everything, no, but darn close. Is it super traditional as far as woodworking goes, no but does that matter. My customers are not sitting there watching me, they just want the end product and they want it fast. I still do traditional joinery with many products but where I can use this I will. It's just a floating tenon, which has been around a long time, the only thing new is the machine. Is it worth it, yes.
Then I will put this tool to the forefront of my expenditures for tooling. Thank you for the reply.
just pulled the plug on one today.Any suggestion?
May i ask how much you earn per table ? And how Long you spend on them
Excellent.
Excelente video. Solo que me gustaría que vendieran esa herramienta aquí en México. Saludos y 👍
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How do you attach the table top?
Excellent video!
Thanks
Do you have a video about turning your table legs?
Yes.....sort of, search my videos for homemade duplicator. That's one way I go about it, but I'm making a video now that will show the process in pretty good detail. I am slowly working towards being able to dedicate more time in the shop making videos and less time chasing a dollar, when I get to that point I'm going to really get into some serious woodworking videos and less on the stuff I sell. Stay tuned!
Wow, that thing looks slick! The dust collection looks like it works great as well! How do you sell your tables? I see people every now and then trying to sell tables like these on Facebook groups and the interest just doesn't seem to be there. it seems to me, most people on Facebook groups are there looking for cheap deals, not handmade high quality furniture at prices reflecting their quality. Just curious how you advertise your products. Also, do you mind me asking how much you sell these for? I would love to start making furniture to sell (I've made nightstands, cedar chests, changing tables for family in the past), just not sure how to get my name out to begin with in a small town with people who are used to cheap prices for poor quality furniture.
I don't sell on platforms that people look for cheap deals to start with, no facebook, craigslist, etc. I don't want my stuff to end up with that DIY I just started making stuff look. I sell in stores and through my own website. I also don't vary my prices, they are listed right on my site for given sizes and options, just like any other online retailer, west elm, restoration hardware, etc. I have done some advertising in magazines but mainly rely on the foot traffic from the stores. Here's an ebook I wrote on developing a product to sell, I think it may be helpful to you. www.thehomesteadcraftsman.com/p/book-1.html Thanks for watching.
The Homestead Craftsman thanks for the response! I do remember seeing your video on the book, but didn't have time to watch it at the time. I'll check it out and probably end up picking up a copy of the book.
Great video, thank you for sharing!
Glad you liked it.
Good job man great video.
Thanks
Hi HC, Love your work and your videos. I just order the DF 700 what size of tenon are you using for this build? I plan to build a table using the DF 700. Do you have a rule of thumb for what size of tenon you use for different builds? Thanks and keep up the good work !!! Danny D.
14mm, it's the biggest.....for normal tables, end tables, coffee tables, dinning, etc....14 is good, I don't follow a rule, I just go with my gut. The two sizes I use the most is 14mm and 8mm. But I'll use what ever size I need.
Has anyone every asked you to document the creation of their table by taking pictures. I was thinking it might be unique to sort of make a plaque of the creation of the table on the underside of the table so that way when they show it off to people they have a story to go with their table.
Do you brace the corners in addition to using the mortis and tennon/dominos?
No, normally when you see braced corners they are for removable legs but it's not a bad idea, especially if you feel the situation calls for it, small legs, small tenons, etc. Or if you know the table is going to really get some abuse.
The Homestead Craftsman - Thanks for the feedback! That gives more clarity on when to apply a brace. Lesson learned.
Excellent video. Thanks for uploading. As I recall, my Domino XL came with a 12mm bit...do you feel like the upgrade to 14mm is necessary for the strength of you tables? Also, fwiw, I buy my domino stock in the 750mm lengths and then cut them down to the size I need. I did the $/mm math and it is significantly cheaper that way.
Mine also came with a 12mm, I bought the 14mm separate..... if I could buy a bigger one I would, so while I don't know how much one makes a different over the other, I prefer the largest possible. My normal tenons are 3/4 inch thick for reference. As far as cost the most expensive thing for me is my time, so a box of ready made tenons the length I want is best for me. That's not to say that the 750mm stock is not a good idea but I'm looking for any advantage I can get.
The Homestead Craftsman. Totally get it. Thanks for the reply. I wish I had the problem of my time being my most valuable commodity. Again, excellent video as always. I even learned something about my Domino XL...not sure how I missed it, but I have never noticed the fine adjustment scale on the side...I have only used the gross (10mm, 20mm, etc) adjuster and guessed from there. Thanks again!
I did the same thing on my Dewalt sliding miter saw, it had a stop of sorts so that you can limit the depth of your cut and never knew it was there until I was cleaning off the saw putting it away (years after I bought it). It's handy for lap joints and making notches and such. Glad you learned something. Thanks again.
Thanks for sharing!
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Great video! Question, you used the pins to cut the mortises in the apron, did you use the same pins for alignment on the table legs?
Yes, the pins on the festool are used for the legs and the aprons. No marking necessary. Very fast.
The Homestead Craftsman thank you, I just got my Domino XL for Christmas and cannot wait to try it out on a table I'm doing for a customer. I'm not sure how I went from building decks to making furniture but I'm sure glad I did. Take care keep up the great videos.
Is it a good way to put table tops together? Or is in not necessary
Yes is the short answer, but not always necessary. I use both dominoes and biscuits depending on what I'm doing, with dominoes being the most precise. I only use them for alignment, otherwise the glue joint between the boards is plenty strong.
Ok thank you. I plan to purchase a biscuit jointer for a better alignment in putting together my table top. Good to hear that it will be strong ether way.
They are handy, I would not be without one. I have an older very simple one that I really like but for newer ones the Porter Cable seems popular, I also like the look of the dewalt.
I need one.... someday I'll get one.
I said that a few years ago, eventually bought it and then kicked myself for not buying it sooner........I think that's what most people say that get it.
Very well done. Now I want one of these. Cheers!
That could turn into one expensive addiction.......
Yeah - it would burn a reasonably large hole into my pocket. I want one but I know I cannot have one. So far I've built two tables - one with pocket holes and one ... ah yes - one I build using threaded rods I had around. So ... buying one of those machines wouldn't be reasonable. Want one nevertheless. I did however add the harbour freight band clamps to my shopping list for if I ever visit the US again because such simple things can cost a pretty dime in Germany. They are not very popular here which makes them go up to as much as 40 bucks for poor quality. Anyways - great video - love the content you produce! Thanks for sharing!
I do feel lucky to be in the U.S. for many reasons, but accessibility to inexpensive tools is a plus. There is also a massive amount of used tools, equipment and materials available. If you do make it, these don't take up a lot of room, you could unpack them and jam them into your bag... or mail yourself a package of a bunch of stuff (if shipping doesn't kill you). Festool's are made in Germany, what are the prices there vs. here?
Unfortunately Festool, Bosch and Makita tend to be cheaper or at least same price in the US. That's mostly because of consumer laws in Germany forcing to give at least one year warranty and then an extended warranty for another year for hidden breaking points and such. Without getting too far into the details being forced to offer those warranties sure drives manufacturing cost overhead up. I'm not sure I would go for used tools in the US since I usually stay for a week of training in a fairly limited area with not much time to move around much. But even something simple as dado blades or a gripper saved me a ton of money when I last went to ... ah, yes, Columbia MD. So - I really don't want to complain about Germany as a lot of stuff is readily available - even used. For example after watching one of your lunch box planer videos I went and bought a jointer/planer from Elektra Beckum (HC260) for less than EUR 500 in great condition - used of course. Those things haven't changed much for the past 20 years and mine is a real treat. So - yeah, tool addiction. But back to topic - your videos are down to earth and very real and I'm most likely to take a lot of advice from those if I ever go forward and become a maker for a living. At the moments too many too young kids and a fairly paid job but long term a probability. So - thanks again! Cheers!
Metabo - not Makita - Metabo is one of the other German ones of course! ;)
Where do you buy the table legs?
I turn them on a lathe. I start with 4X4 rough sawn pine posts.
did you turn the legs yourself?
Yes, I have videos showing complete table builds where I show turning.