A similar thing happened with Indiana Jones and The Temple of Doom, where Adam talked at length about how much he loves watching it and he praised it way more than either of the other two, only to give it a 6 while Alex and Ralph both gave higher ratings even though they didn't seem to like it as much. It was hilarious and I hope Adam never changes.
Timestamps! 0:00 Intro: Your Car Sucks, ralphthecarmaker, I Hate Cars 2:57 MoviePass returns feat. Black Mirror 10:09 Don’t Look Up wins Writer’s Guild best screenplay 15:35 Turning Red (spoilers) 35:21 Speed Racer (spoilers) 1:17:35 Pizza Time! I mean Question Time! 1:17:50 What do you think about Ego’s speech in Ratatouille? 1:21:35 Are movie tie-in video games dead? 1:29:14 Do you own any house plants? 1:30:57 Thoughts on Euphoria season 2? 1:32:22 Are there any “cult classics” that you guys don’t like? 1:34:34 What’s your opinion on longer RUclips videos? 1:37:42 Do you think we’ll ever see a feature film machinima? 1:39:49 Any must-visit places in Vancouver? 1:43:17 Ralph recommends Gigli Thanks boys! Love how Ralph has such a streak recommending bad films. Excited for the inevitable Will Smith slap discussion on the next episode!
Speed Racer is unironically a pretty amazing film. It perfectly nails what it's going for and it's a lot of dumb fun with batshit insane visuals and direction. Definitely overstimulating, though. It was actually too much for my brain to process the first time around.
22:45 Domee Shi was born in 1989, meaning she would've been 13 in 2002, I'm fairly certain she chose that time period likely because she wanted to capture what her childhood was like, which I personally think is a great creative decision, because I hate it when adults make movies about modern day high schoolers when they clearly have no idea what the culture of today is like
I got no sense she understood the culture of that time either despite “growing up” in it apparently. Switch boy bands with mumble rappers, tomagachi with iPhones, beatboxing with flossing, and it’s’ indistinguishable from the late 2010s/early 2020s. Make no mistake, this is a zoomer movie pretending to be a millennial piece.
@@alexgomez6723 Opinions are opinions and all, but that seems like a bit of a shallow way of looking at things. I feel like you could look at any movie set in a different decade, and argue that certain elements of the movie could be replaced with elements in our modern culture. In fairness I was born in 2001, so it's not like I have much first-hand experience with early-00s' culture (my knowledge largely comes from older people discussing their experiences with that period of time), but based on what I know I think Domee Shi integrated the time period pretty well into the movie, and it didn't strike me as lazy in anyway. Maybe people who did grow up back then can bring in their own objections about whether or not the movie felt accurate to the time-period (I recall Chris Stuckmann noticing a few small inaccuracies), I'm just going off of what I felt when watching the movie.
@@alexgomez6723 Movies set in the past often have poor understandings of the time period, and plenty of time it's on purpose. Every decade is a lot more boring than it will ever be on film, because the true intentions of art will always be to invoke a time rather than perfectly recreate it. That's why we don't watch movies set in the 80s with horrible hair metal bands playing on the radio constantly, even though that would more accurately capture what it felt like to be in the early 80s. A perfect 1:1 isn't needed, it'd be detrimental most of the time actually. I mean, movie makers as a collective don't even do a great job of representing THIS decade well. So many movies have single-income families in two story houses in the middle of the city. And every social media video is covered in terrible, annoying emojis- NO ONE WOULD WATCH A VIDEO CONSTANTLY COVERED WITH LAUGHING FACES. But those details are often important to the plot, (The story isn't about the horrible economy so let's just not bring it up) or to the emotion the filmmaker is trying to create (Social media sucks and can dogpile on you very easily). Those examples aren't great and some films definitely do it better than others though, but you get it, right? So, maybe Turning Red doesn't feel like the 2000's did for you, but I don't think that means they don't "understand the culture", especially because we can apply that criticism to basically any film, even the ones who portray the perfect vibe, because that perfection is manufactured and fake too I can't say it felt like a zoomer movie to me, but I don't really know what that means. Do you mean it felt generic, maybe? Or that the setting of the 2000s didn't have much impact on the plot so why not just set it today and make the boy band Korean? I can see that angle definitely, I do think setting and character are better the more they push and pull on each other, but Turning Red wasn't a high fantasy epic adventure, so as far as movie sins go that one is really far down on my personal list.
@@alexgomez6723 I can definitely see where some compromises were made for relatability sake (hairstyles and diversity of the boy band members stands out to me) but I also know the setting of Canada might've meant they were a few beats behind pop culture wise which is why they're still in boy band era in 2002 while in USA we were in the jingo hellscape of patriot rock, nu metal and pop punk that year. You tend to forget that in the 2020's when we all get the same media at the exact same time. I mean Stranger Things ain't the 80's either really so much as a distillation.
I honestly don’t get why people are criticising _Turning Red_ for being set when the creator grew up when _Hilda_ and _Jakers_ did the same thing without any backlash. It’s because they didn’t mention periods, isn’t it?
I think there's some sort of issue with the audio. From 35:21 to 1:17:35 I just hear a loud WHOOSH noise. Was this a recording/editing error or is that just the sound of the movie going over the lad's heads?
Speed Racer was my first Anime & I fucking LOVE the movie adaptation! I remember when I went to see it in the theater, I was the only one there, so it was like a personal party. I laughed, shouted & cheered as much as I wanted to without restraint. Has to be my favorite movie-going experience next to when my little sis & I saw The Emperor's New Groove the first time. We laughed more than anybody else in the theater did. This Speed Racer film is such an amazing love letter to the series, so I consider it a tragic crime that it's not talked about more. Even the ending credits are fun with audio of the Anime actors talking to each other. They took the Anime to use as a base & just did whatever the hell they wanted with it. The result turned out to be a beautiful & fun experience.
I’m surprised how much they enjoyed Turning Red! I loved it but expected that most people wouldn’t enjoy it as much as me. I didn’t love Luca or Onward, but this story has a clear vision and a story that I didn’t expect to relate to me so well. The sheltered family stuff was spot on to my life, and the 13 year old boy-band puberty culture was spot on with how my wife acted at 13. Very cute movie with surprising heart, but I feel that some people may find it annoying or weird
Speed Racer exemplifies the appeal of a Shonen anime, a genre that usually tells it's story over 5 years and thousands of pages or episodes, in just 2 hours with live action actors. They totally got it. I'll go a limb and say that no director will ever be able to pull that off again because the movie was more "anime" than the original anime.
I was working at a cinema in Central London that had the premier of speed racer and the whole cast was there. We had special tshirts to wear for the premier and John Goodman asked if he could have one and my manager said "we don't have one in your size"... honestly I didn't know how to react to that 🤣🤣🤣
The controversy that turning red has caused is insane, it’s so ridiculous people are getting this vitriolic about what is essentially just a sweet kids film of a girl turning into a giant panda to represent the message of puberty. It’s insane.
I think that the early 2000s setting for turning red may just be because that's when Domi Shee grew up, because the movie definitely feels like it's pulling from a real person's experiences, at least the grounded parts are.
@@sketchyjulia The “quirky” personalities of the characters, the animu expressions, the clear Chinese pandering disguised as Western style “representation”, the Steven Universe-like animation style. It’s just drenched in a superficial early 2000s cloak but it’s 2010s TikTok #relatable y’all Gen Z to the absolute core.
30:14 To be fair, Domee Shi was a storyboard artist on _Inside Out_ , while that movie's director, Pete Docter, was executive producer on _Turning Red_ , so that may explain the stylistic similarities.
I like it for being close to what Sin City was a few years before. Sin City, instead of being adapted to movie format and turned into a generically audiovisual film, was made adapting the movie format itself and turning it as close to adult comics as possible. Even though I didn't read the comics, I could see that so many shots were made to look like comic book panels. Also the cynical narrator lines, something that usually doesn't work in film, worked because they were made to resemble comic book character's inner monologues. Speed Racer was that but anime instead of adult comic books. It's colorful, goofy, there's zany transitions everywhere (that was probably lifted from the Star Wars prequels since they share the DP, but the way it was shot worked better for the style of those transitions, they flowed way better). I may recognise it's not a masterpiece but I like it for what I feel it is.
Man, I really wish they’d have listen to the Wachowskis discuss this film. They’re so intelligent about how they engage with aesthetics and why they made these choices and about the reactions to them. It’d be good to reference that. They seem so baffled by the goofiness of Speed Racer, that understanding why the Wachowskis did that would have majorly helped. Those 2 are a lot smarter than ppl tend to give them credit for.
People discredit them because they’re “weird and crazy” and make films that are deemed failures by general audiences. It’s unfortunate because their work is filled with endless riches.
I can’t get behind that. For me, great movies stand on their own; the intent of the author is self-evident and doesn’t require the audience to approach it with “oh, I see what they’re trying to do there”. As soon as the director starts to assign a director’s commentary or a 12-part graphic novel series to supplement a film as a means to enjoy it, it feels like they do not respect the audience’s time. It’s a shame their intellect isn’t recognised through their intent, but translating intent into film is the most vital skill required from a director.
@@samharold9022 I can’t speak for the OP but I’m of the opinion that each of their works *do* stand on their own (I agree with you that all great films should btw). For me, I tend to “feel” a film the first time I watch it. It has to work on that visceral level for me before anything else (I think Ebert had a similar outlook, not sure). The Wachowskis films have always worked on that level for me because it’s clear they understand the language of cinema and the importance of aesthetics in a visual medium. To me, their intent is very apparent in their films but as shown in the two comments above yours making fun of what is *intentionally* a goofy Flash Gordon/Sci-Fi serial romp because it’s not 2001, maybe their wide release films just aren’t to everyone’s taste.
i love adam touting his strategy of finding good restaurants as ‘foolproof’ like nobody’s ever thought of accessing the amount of five star ratings on google reviews before.
The setting for Turning Red is a reflection of the life of the director/writer of the movie, Domee Shi, who was also 13 in the year 2002. Hope that answers your questions about it boys. Edit: I swear to god, every time I leave a comment on a video, the replies go to shit
@@alexgomez6723 Why? Pixar movies have always been about “write what you know” and some of their classic movies were retelling of actual real life events or situations that happened to the directors life (like the family crisis in Incredibles and Brad Bird). So now with Turning Red that’s suddenly a problem?
The Skydome is usually the prefered name over the Rogers Centre, especially among Jay's fans. Also Rogers aquired it in 2005, so the name fits the timeline.
Speed racer felt like a modern day (new age) Tim Burton movie, with CGI and it's amazing, maybe it's cause I watched it in the cinemas at the time, but just letting yourself go and falling into that silly world, is so fun and surprisingly deep, and I fucking hate the old cartoon, and the speed racer movie is one of my favourite movies to this day definitely a guilty pleasure cause apparently it doesn't hit people the way it did me
as someone who watched the old anime, the movie is like a love letter to anime, it gets throught all major plot points of the series, and it´s super stylized with crazy transitions and all, it was actually a blast to see to me. Its like "lets get this anime, and make it right" removing all the even bullshitier things and Speed being a complete asshole in the original at times. I find it as a good movie.
Speed Racer is my favorite movie. It definitely feels like an anime! The movie is long but constantly moving, camera always going, always racing. So fun. I love the over stimulation. Love the genuine playfulness of it all. Y’all complained about the best things about it! It’s camp or something right? The film is live action but feels like a cartoon at all times. The Grand Prix gets my heart racing every time! Love it to death!
Speed Racer is a fantastic movie I don't care if it looks fake it's a movie about somersaulting cars and campy dialogue. I've watched it within the last year and I still love it
I'm watching at 22:45 but I from what I'm told the setting was the last time a red moon eclipse was visible in Canada was in 2002 and thats why it's set in 2002
22:38 Honestly, I don't really get why a movie *needs* a reason to be set in the past, unless it specifically conflicts with the story and/or characters. Like... no-one complains about _Grease_ being set in the 50s, for example - 1958 was as long ago when the movie came out as 2002 is today. It's a nostalgia period piece.
I've also started playing The Thing, after I got an XBox emulator running on my Macbook during my most recent Covid quarantine. Some other great movie tie-ins I've discovered from that era: The Warriors, Scarface - The World is Yours, The Chronicles of Riddick - Escape from Butcher Bay (way better than the movies), From Russia with Love, and Ghostbusters obviously. So, my question is: Which movie tie-in game did you find to be more fun than the material it was based on? You've mentioned Avatar, but I really have zero interest in that particular universe, so I'm not gonna try that one. And yeah, regarding plants: I've just turned forty, and have four of 'em in my living room now - but to be fair, half of them constantly die, and the other two are cacti, so there's that. I've also seriously gotten into cooking, and recently adopted an elderly cat, since the lady who used to take care of her moved to a retirement home. Yeah, I guess I'm starting to lose my wild ways, and turning into a boring, middle-aged homebody. Also, thanks for calling them BELGIAN fries, Adum! We don't have much to be proud of in our minuscule artificial buffer state, except for beer, fries, chocolates, and surrealist art - so it's much appreciated! I actually only live a few blocks away from Jeanne Dielman's apartment, and it was thanks to your review I finally sat down and watched that masterpiece. Jan Decorte, who played her son, is a friend of mine I drink a coffee with in the afternoon every now and then at a local café, so it was weird to see him as a young man. Also strange that it took a Canadian/American/British podcast for me to check out this Belgian gem, but there ya go. Oh, and sorry about the lengthy post, but as you guys said: I made it as long as I needed it to be ;-)
I unironically love Speed Racer, I think it’s the greatest American anime adaptation ever made and I don’t care what anyone thinks, say what you want but when watching the film, there’s way too much charm and genuine passion from the filmmakers to not enjoy.
I saw Speed Racer opening weekend matinee show. It was packed with kids. When the end credits hit, all the kids spontaneously jumped up and started dancing. The oddest moment in my movie going history.
1:25:25 No One Lives Under The Lighthouse is an indie horror game that is directly inspired by the movie. It’s exactly what you would expect and well worth it’s price of $7 on Steam.
I saw Speed Racer in the theaters as a kid and I was absolutely the target audience. Speed Racer wasn't a huge property back then, but there was an american adaptation called "Speed Racer: The Next Generation" playing on TV at the time, and the DVD re-releases of the original show were starting to become common, especially after they announced the movie. So it was at least part of the public consciousness. Even at that time, other kids thought the Speed Racer property was goofy, but I was a big fan and the movie checked all the boxes for me. It truly felt like a movie tailor-made me as a fan of the original show. Between Speed Racer 2008 and Star Trek 2009, it was a good time for kids who had parents who introduced them to cool, old stuff prior to the reboot coming out.
How anyone can think that when there are moments like Miki and Todoroki making a clutch push into the higher positions because they have the advantage of being able to dig underground or just that final stretch with Machine Head alone, that surprises me. The first race sets the tone, but it really is the appetizer for the main course (ha ha.).
This was the best episode in a while. It really felt like everybody had an equal amount to say about the movies and the discussions were great. Pls never stop making this podcast
This was the best episode in a while. It really felt like everybody had an equal amount to say about the movies and the discussions were great. Unsubscribed.
Ralph back at it again with such searing hot takes as, “Turning Red is better than The Good Dinosaur,” and, “Speed Racer isn’t as good as The Matrix.” Not sure where this podcast would be without his deep insights, and his tendency to never flip-flop on his opinions the second anyone challenges him. Godspeed.
some very surface level talking points abt speed racer. "why would you make this" is such a baseless and pointless question in regards to any artistic expression - talking about how the property "doesn't deserve it", this is not the reason people make things unless they are thinking primarily about money or appeal. wonder how you can make those points alongside making a platform criticizing marvel, disney remakes, cashgrab sequels, etc.
Def agree that "Turning Red" was very *different* for Disney/Pixar; I mean - this certainly has to be the first time one of their films has ever even acknowledged sexuality (and Mei even uses the word "sexy" at one point).
I never understood the "it's just made to sell toys" argument. Does that just mean they are unique designs...in a children's film? You could say any children's film is designed to sell toys, right?
Usually when people say that they mean the actual writing/quality of the show or movie is an afterthought to the cool action figure character designs that they want kids to want toys of
5:17 As a kid, I assumed it was just a thing in Australia, to show ads before movies. It was only when I watched the Amazing Atheist's video about what he hates about movies that I was like, "Crap - they do that in America too?"
I thought Tim Curry was the villain in Speed Racer when I was a kid. Watched it last year and was like: "Wait that's not Tim Curry!" Roger Allam is great as the villain though.
@@bhq3860 it's an emotional and visual thrill ride if you're able to just let yourself go, speed racer is fucking amazing, it makes you feel like a kid again, puts you on the edge of your seat with he unique one of a kind racing, and the emotional family drama bloody hell 🥹
I appreciate you guys putting everything that I love about Speed Racer into words, even when you're talking about how much you hated it lol (Not that I blame you)
Idk. They seem to completely misunderstand how that aesthetic overload is kind of the point of the film. Nobody watches anime because it’s subtle, and the Wachowskis are the only filmmakers to ever translate it to live action in America to understand that They don’t seem to kno a ton about anime themselves.
@@P0rk_Sinigang Just make your argument. I hate when people try to set traps. No matter what he says you're going to pretend like you don't know what an ecchi anime or a Shonen battle anime is.
It's kinda sad how they completely overlooked the story of Speed Racer because the movie's style is so goofy. I think it's a really good story about family legacy and not selling out the things you love. It's very good if you can get over it's over the top style, which i definitely can. Also, i completely disagree with the Racer X stuff, in my Opinion he's the heart of the movie, the reveal at the end isn't supposed to be funny, it's supposed to be emotional. I don't think critics really can enjoy this movie, because you're supposed to look at it with a fully emotional mind instead of a critical one.
@@FrancoisDressler when we see His mom tell Speed about how seeing him race takes her breath away hits me right in the heart. It’s your parent telling you that they are so proud of you and overwhelmed with your talent. It’s so special. It’s a movie about how Speed could only win with the help of everyone around him. Trixie, Pops, X, even chim chim and spittle. Speed needs them all. And his win at the end is as much there’s as it is his. It’s literally a movie about the Wachowskis honoring their collaborators. It’s beautiful.
And yet Tim Burton is praised for the goofy nature. Speed racer is amazing, visually and emotionally, and the effects being so out there I feel help for any generation to fall into it if you have an imagination, it's so out there that you can either hate it or give into the kind of movie you're watching. It's not trying to look real or be realistic with the effects or races, it knows what it wants to be, it wants to be unique and to fucking does it 👌🏼
I was trying to figure out why I’ve drifted away from these guys content and I think I might’ve figured it out. For a long time on RUclips I feel movie criticism was based in negativity and anger. Like the Plinkett Reviews and Nostalgia Critic. And every other creator has come from that mindset, including these guys. They have sort of updated in recent years but most of their content is steeped in negativity. Like “I hate this movie” and “it sucks balls” type beat. This schtick is just getting real old for me and other viewers. You’re allowed to like things and I feel creators have unknowingly sucked the joy out of media criticism. This isn’t meant to be a shot at these guys I listen to the pod pretty frequently and watch the occasional video, I’ve just realised that the culture has changed and me with it. Speed Racer is like a 10/10, has some cringe moments but the heart of the story is so effective. Speed’s story arc is great, everything doesn’t have to be realistic all the time!
It's barely dumbed down even if it is. The Japanese title is Mach GoGoGo, so his name being Go as well isn't all that different than him being called Speed. The Mifune is just named after an actor, so a proper localization would just be something like Speed Bogart, named after an actor as well.
25:47 To be fair, the trope of the kids wanting to make a big buck at school has been done in shows that were actually made during the 2000s, such as _The Buzz on Maggie_ and _Summer Heights High_ (and even _SpongeBob_ , even though Sponge and Pat are adults, albeit immature), so this may have also been done as a callback to that time.
alex you should try growing aquatic plants, a bunch of them are so easy that you can essentially plop them in some water and watch them grow like anubias, banana lilies or java ferns and you can then advance onto things like dwarf lotuses and waterlilies, water hyacinths, water poppies, mosaic plants and stuff like that which are still probably easier than most of the houseplants you kill
God, Don't Look Up was fucking painful. I think the issue was that, frankly, it was shit we've been dealing with for six years now on the internet, crystalized on screen with zero nuance. Not only am I sick to death of seeing the same tired discourse presented as a "satire," but reality has literally become a satire of itself. The movie isn't a joke, our own world is the joke, and this movie trying to be in on the joke just feels like a kick to the head. It's not funny, it's just. so. tedious.
Dude, I can’t explain how seen I felt as a female going through puberty in 2001-2003 by this movie. Girlhood is a hell of a thing, the experience of female puberty was ca-turned quite well here.
I disagree with the other two, and agree with Adam concerning speed racer. I got a 'Lazy Town' over-the-top 60s-80s retro cheese that a Pixar or michael bay would never do justice, imo. The complaints about NONrealistic reflections or obvious green-screen action is missing the point. Thats like complaining about spider-verse movie animation frames.If that's not someone's cup of tea, then that's fine. Take old vs new Lion King as a crude analogy of stylistic direction
Turning Red is the first Pixar movie I've enjoyed in a while. Nothing that really wow'd me, but oh my God was it so cute. If I were younger this definitely would have been one of my favorite movies ever. Turning Red was what I really wanted from movies like Soul, Encanto, and etc. Having a more down to earth plot for a change like in Ratatouille with a bit of supernatural Weirdness combined with a more distinctive style that could help make it stand out. I wouldn't be mad if this won an Oscar. Which it probably will. And I disagree the length was perfect, it was short and sweet and really flew by. It was a coming of age story about family trauma. It never felt like it dragged for me. My favorite thing about this movie has to the soundtrack hands down. And not just the boy band stuff, the entire soundtrack actually slaps.
@@spacecowboy3569 I mean there will probably be better animated films that come out (There always are when compared to Pixar they just really don't get the same industry backing), but it is Pixar so... you know.
Absolutely insane to me that Ralph compared the aesthetic priorities of speed fucking racer to Scott pilgrim and the original Star Wars. They took this movie way too seriously. Later in the episode Alex specifically says he wished the movie was just 90 minutes of camp so I’m really confused as to what exactly they thought this movie was going for. It wasn’t trying to be citizen cane. Obviously the movie is extremely flawed but so many of the critiques that they had were specifically counter to the priorities of the film. None of the critiques were “this movie failed at what it was going for” it was all just “I don’t like what this movie is going for”.
The funny thing about the machinima question is that there is a show called Arby n the Chief where there are multiple episodes, more recent seasons which is the last, that are an hour and a half long. Check it out, it was one of the more popular machinima shows
Man, Speed Racer is just one of my favorite movies ever made. I fully believe that the excessive use of CGI and Green Screen look the way they do intentionally, as an attempt to really push the "real people living in a cartoon" mood, and it totally works on me. It's really a movie unlike any other, and I do understand to an extent why its strangeness may turn someone off, but I just struggle to imagine myself enjoying a film more. The thought of that rumored sequel both excites and terrifies me, but considering the vision they had to make the first one, you best believe I'll give it a shot.
The only 2 things I remember about speed racer is the scene where the guy has to plug the hole of the piranha tank with his finger, and just being really frustrated because he could have just pressed his palm against it. The other thing is when we were walking out of the theater with my little 6 year old mind blown, saying to my parents "that was great, I think there's gonna be a sequal" and they laughed. Fuck you dad, speed racer is great
Speed racer was ahead of its time. If it was made now with better effects and blending of the cartoony style and environments then it would have been much better received with the same exact story. Regardless, I believe it was achieved fairly well when it was made. It has so much style and heart and all the actors really sold their characters well I can't believe how anybody could say they gave bad performances. All the racing scenes are really well edited and the opening was incredible in the way it sets up speed's character, his beliefs, his background and his entire dynamic with his family all within like 10 minutes. Once you look past some of the goofiness you have a pretty heartfelt story about a family that cares about the integrity of their craft up against a mega corp that couldn't give two shits about the "art". My only major gripes are just a few spritle and chim chim scenes and the final race where it keeps cutting back to previous scenes but overall I love this movie. There's definitely more to like than just purely the crazy race sequences.
Its so weird hearing the sardonicast guys literally talk like studio executives when discussing Speed Racer. "Why is it so long?" "What's the audience?" "Why is it so complicated?" "Why is it so hyper-edited?" "Its too colorful!!!" They don't seem to get that its simply a passion product. Its almost like they WANT it to be a watered-down, focus-tested corporate snooze-fest.
Something being a passion project that’s not concise doesn’t make it good necessarily. In concept the movie could work but the execution is just a mess unfortunately. Edit - which is not to say that they want it to be a corporate product, but something being focused doesn’t mean it has to be plain
Passion projects can still be shitty. Something being a conscious decision bu a director doesnt make it good or the right decision. They dont want it to be watered down they want it to be good and all that shit makes it bad. So like, wtf exactly is your point
Exactly. It’s a perfect adaptation. It’s literally just a live action episode of the show I’m not kidding in the original anime Speed is literally a villain that the show refuses to call out
There's a thousand other directors worth the ire but S Craig Zahler is doing what he loves which is making extremely literalist 70's genre call-backs. He's far more original than your avg director, that's for sure.
Surprised about how much you didn't understand Speedracer, it was pure anime, it was fantastic, that scene when Racer wins the final race is incredible. Come on man!
Going off memory-- cause I watched a lot of Speed Racer as a little kid and later saw the movie-- one aspect about the original show I don't recall them capturing too heavily in the movie was the sort of detective/foul play angle, with campy '30s-style mobsters and tycoons bribing and bidding in the background. Not to say that the show was all about that, but it would've been nice if the movie delved into that mystery angle a little more with some action on the side.
Are you kidding me, that was a big part of the movie. They really highlighted the amount of foul play and fixing that happened within the races and all the different mobs/gangs.
I don't know if Alex will ever see this but there actually is a good game based on the lighthouse it's called no one lives under the lighthouse, it's going for like a classic ps1 aesthetic it's pretty cool.
I don't think I've ever heard Adam gush more about how much he enjoyed watching a movie before hitting it with the 5/10 than with Turning Red
A similar thing happened with Indiana Jones and The Temple of Doom, where Adam talked at length about how much he loves watching it and he praised it way more than either of the other two, only to give it a 6 while Alex and Ralph both gave higher ratings even though they didn't seem to like it as much. It was hilarious and I hope Adam never changes.
@@HOTD108_ Those sew my favorite plot twists and I love him for it.
Because liking something and calling it objectively good are two different things.
@@jex8542 Stay in your lane, MauLer fan
@@sorendipitous lol what?
Timestamps!
0:00 Intro: Your Car Sucks, ralphthecarmaker, I Hate Cars
2:57 MoviePass returns feat. Black Mirror
10:09 Don’t Look Up wins Writer’s Guild best screenplay
15:35 Turning Red (spoilers)
35:21 Speed Racer (spoilers)
1:17:35 Pizza Time! I mean Question Time!
1:17:50 What do you think about Ego’s speech in Ratatouille?
1:21:35 Are movie tie-in video games dead?
1:29:14 Do you own any house plants?
1:30:57 Thoughts on Euphoria season 2?
1:32:22 Are there any “cult classics” that you guys don’t like?
1:34:34 What’s your opinion on longer RUclips videos?
1:37:42 Do you think we’ll ever see a feature film machinima?
1:39:49 Any must-visit places in Vancouver?
1:43:17 Ralph recommends Gigli
Thanks boys! Love how Ralph has such a streak recommending bad films. Excited for the inevitable Will Smith slap discussion on the next episode!
Thank you!
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Thank you, the real hero.
Never stop saying Pizza Time! I love that
I'm a Speed Racer defender, it's a movie with no chill and I appreciate it for that
I love that Adum has fun gushing about the Canadian-isms of Turning Red. Like how Ralph brings up New York-isms or Alex bringing up Britain-isms lol
And Australians gushing about _Bluey_ .
First name: Speed
Last name: Racer
Unfathomably based
Ralph’s recommendations lately are slowly turning Sardonicast into Best of the Worst
It's Ralph 9/11.
My pick for Best of the Worst is Suicide Squad.
A TORTURE DEVICE FOR THE MODERN AGE
He wishes they that kind of quality content..
20:50 "This is a period piece, too."
Ralph. Ralph...
...Ralph...
It is. I hate it but my teen years are officially vintage.
Speed Racer is unironically a pretty amazing film. It perfectly nails what it's going for and it's a lot of dumb fun with batshit insane visuals and direction. Definitely overstimulating, though. It was actually too much for my brain to process the first time around.
No matter what anyone says Speed Racer will be one of the classics for me.
Hell yea, the movie is bloody amazing.
10s across the board
Certified hood classic
It's the closest I've ever gotten to witnessing an F-Zero movie (besides maybe Redline). Insanely badass movies.
@@groovstoov4717 just looked up redline because if your comment, and it's made the same people who did Animatrix so maybe a connection there also
22:45 Domee Shi was born in 1989, meaning she would've been 13 in 2002, I'm fairly certain she chose that time period likely because she wanted to capture what her childhood was like, which I personally think is a great creative decision, because I hate it when adults make movies about modern day high schoolers when they clearly have no idea what the culture of today is like
I got no sense she understood the culture of that time either despite “growing up” in it apparently. Switch boy bands with mumble rappers, tomagachi with iPhones, beatboxing with flossing, and it’s’ indistinguishable from the late 2010s/early 2020s. Make no mistake, this is a zoomer movie pretending to be a millennial piece.
@@alexgomez6723 Opinions are opinions and all, but that seems like a bit of a shallow way of looking at things. I feel like you could look at any movie set in a different decade, and argue that certain elements of the movie could be replaced with elements in our modern culture.
In fairness I was born in 2001, so it's not like I have much first-hand experience with early-00s' culture (my knowledge largely comes from older people discussing their experiences with that period of time), but based on what I know I think Domee Shi integrated the time period pretty well into the movie, and it didn't strike me as lazy in anyway.
Maybe people who did grow up back then can bring in their own objections about whether or not the movie felt accurate to the time-period (I recall Chris Stuckmann noticing a few small inaccuracies), I'm just going off of what I felt when watching the movie.
@@alexgomez6723 Movies set in the past often have poor understandings of the time period, and plenty of time it's on purpose. Every decade is a lot more boring than it will ever be on film, because the true intentions of art will always be to invoke a time rather than perfectly recreate it. That's why we don't watch movies set in the 80s with horrible hair metal bands playing on the radio constantly, even though that would more accurately capture what it felt like to be in the early 80s. A perfect 1:1 isn't needed, it'd be detrimental most of the time actually.
I mean, movie makers as a collective don't even do a great job of representing THIS decade well. So many movies have single-income families in two story houses in the middle of the city. And every social media video is covered in terrible, annoying emojis- NO ONE WOULD WATCH A VIDEO CONSTANTLY COVERED WITH LAUGHING FACES. But those details are often important to the plot, (The story isn't about the horrible economy so let's just not bring it up) or to the emotion the filmmaker is trying to create (Social media sucks and can dogpile on you very easily). Those examples aren't great and some films definitely do it better than others though, but you get it, right?
So, maybe Turning Red doesn't feel like the 2000's did for you, but I don't think that means they don't "understand the culture", especially because we can apply that criticism to basically any film, even the ones who portray the perfect vibe, because that perfection is manufactured and fake too
I can't say it felt like a zoomer movie to me, but I don't really know what that means. Do you mean it felt generic, maybe? Or that the setting of the 2000s didn't have much impact on the plot so why not just set it today and make the boy band Korean? I can see that angle definitely, I do think setting and character are better the more they push and pull on each other, but Turning Red wasn't a high fantasy epic adventure, so as far as movie sins go that one is really far down on my personal list.
@@alexgomez6723 I can definitely see where some compromises were made for relatability sake (hairstyles and diversity of the boy band members stands out to me) but I also know the setting of Canada might've meant they were a few beats behind pop culture wise which is why they're still in boy band era in 2002 while in USA we were in the jingo hellscape of patriot rock, nu metal and pop punk that year. You tend to forget that in the 2020's when we all get the same media at the exact same time. I mean Stranger Things ain't the 80's either really so much as a distillation.
I honestly don’t get why people are criticising _Turning Red_ for being set when the creator grew up when _Hilda_ and _Jakers_ did the same thing without any backlash.
It’s because they didn’t mention periods, isn’t it?
You guys forgot to give Speed Racer a 10/10
i don't think they liked it enough to remember
"Bound" would make for a great Kachowski episode discussion
Or Cloud Atlas
The Wachowskis have made so many absolute bangers. Bound is amazing!
Yeah that movie rules!
The visuals in Bound 2 are much more striking imo
MASTERPIECE
I think there's some sort of issue with the audio. From 35:21 to 1:17:35 I just hear a loud WHOOSH noise. Was this a recording/editing error or is that just the sound of the movie going over the lad's heads?
Speed Racer was my first Anime & I fucking LOVE the movie adaptation! I remember when I went to see it in the theater, I was the only one there, so it was like a personal party. I laughed, shouted & cheered as much as I wanted to without restraint. Has to be my favorite movie-going experience next to when my little sis & I saw The Emperor's New Groove the first time. We laughed more than anybody else in the theater did. This Speed Racer film is such an amazing love letter to the series, so I consider it a tragic crime that it's not talked about more. Even the ending credits are fun with audio of the Anime actors talking to each other. They took the Anime to use as a base & just did whatever the hell they wanted with it. The result turned out to be a beautiful & fun experience.
My favorite part of Speed Racer is the end when they show a news paper clip of the villain arrested with the caption "CHEATERS NEVER PROSPER!" lmfao
I’m surprised how much they enjoyed Turning Red! I loved it but expected that most people wouldn’t enjoy it as much as me. I didn’t love Luca or Onward, but this story has a clear vision and a story that I didn’t expect to relate to me so well. The sheltered family stuff was spot on to my life, and the 13 year old boy-band puberty culture was spot on with how my wife acted at 13. Very cute movie with surprising heart, but I feel that some people may find it annoying or weird
I liked turning red it was just a fun and enjoyable movie
Concurred.
It's a well made, entertaining film.
Hearing them not understand that the Speed Racer movie is a huge send up to the show is hilarious.
Speed Racer exemplifies the appeal of a Shonen anime, a genre that usually tells it's story over 5 years and thousands of pages or episodes, in just 2 hours with live action actors. They totally got it. I'll go a limb and say that no director will ever be able to pull that off again because the movie was more "anime" than the original anime.
I like Speed Racer. I think the cheesy special effects are completely in tone with the the thing they're going for..
I love how chill this episode was 👍
I was working at a cinema in Central London that had the premier of speed racer and the whole cast was there. We had special tshirts to wear for the premier and John Goodman asked if he could have one and my manager said "we don't have one in your size"... honestly I didn't know how to react to that 🤣🤣🤣
The controversy that turning red has caused is insane, it’s so ridiculous people are getting this vitriolic about what is essentially just a sweet kids film of a girl turning into a giant panda to represent the message of puberty. It’s insane.
Absolutely insane seeing people try and say the goofy twerking scene at the end is some kind of perverted sexualization thing
That film has more heart, humor, and authenticity than almost every big studio animated film of the past few years.
the internet's sensitivity and cynicism has just gotten worse as the years have gone by. just ignore those weirdos.
Someone doesn’t like a movie I like. Ma gurd, it’s the end of the world.
@@alexgomez6723 You're good at missing the point lol
That wasn’t the kid from Cat in the Hat in Speed Racer.
"How much does John Goodman know about acting?" - Ralph Sepe, 2022
I think that the early 2000s setting for turning red may just be because that's when Domi Shee grew up, because the movie definitely feels like it's pulling from a real person's experiences, at least the grounded parts are.
Plus it explains how Mei’s friends were able to get floor row tickets on the day of the concert for only $200 a piece
For being so nonchalant and in your face about it’s early 2000s homages, it still feels like a zoomer movie at its core.
@@alexgomez6723 how so?
@@sketchyjulia The “quirky” personalities of the characters, the animu expressions, the clear Chinese pandering disguised as Western style “representation”, the Steven Universe-like animation style. It’s just drenched in a superficial early 2000s cloak but it’s 2010s TikTok #relatable y’all Gen Z to the absolute core.
@@alexgomez6723 I mean that’s just how preteens are lol
Speed Racer will always have my heart. A movie about battle hyper racing that is actually great. Basically the only film of it's kind.
Redline
@@BogBagBobble True! I left anime out by accident.
@@DuelistRL hell yes brother, honestly a double feature of those two would probably bang
30:14 To be fair, Domee Shi was a storyboard artist on _Inside Out_ , while that movie's director, Pete Docter, was executive producer on _Turning Red_ , so that may explain the stylistic similarities.
Yaaay! My fanart made it into the intro!
Speed Racer is great fun. Totally knows what it is, it’s so fun and constantly visually interesting.
I like it for being close to what Sin City was a few years before.
Sin City, instead of being adapted to movie format and turned into a generically audiovisual film, was made adapting the movie format itself and turning it as close to adult comics as possible. Even though I didn't read the comics, I could see that so many shots were made to look like comic book panels. Also the cynical narrator lines, something that usually doesn't work in film, worked because they were made to resemble comic book character's inner monologues.
Speed Racer was that but anime instead of adult comic books. It's colorful, goofy, there's zany transitions everywhere (that was probably lifted from the Star Wars prequels since they share the DP, but the way it was shot worked better for the style of those transitions, they flowed way better).
I may recognise it's not a masterpiece but I like it for what I feel it is.
Man, I really wish they’d have listen to the Wachowskis discuss this film.
They’re so intelligent about how they engage with aesthetics and why they made these choices and about the reactions to them.
It’d be good to reference that. They seem so baffled by the goofiness of Speed Racer, that understanding why the Wachowskis did that would have majorly helped.
Those 2 are a lot smarter than ppl tend to give them credit for.
People discredit them because they’re “weird and crazy” and make films that are deemed failures by general audiences. It’s unfortunate because their work is filled with endless riches.
@@FrancoisDressler
I cReAtE LiFe!!!
It takes a level of genius to really get the subtlety of Jupiter Ascending, doesn’t it?
I can’t get behind that. For me, great movies stand on their own; the intent of the author is self-evident and doesn’t require the audience to approach it with “oh, I see what they’re trying to do there”. As soon as the director starts to assign a director’s commentary or a 12-part graphic novel series to supplement a film as a means to enjoy it, it feels like they do not respect the audience’s time. It’s a shame their intellect isn’t recognised through their intent, but translating intent into film is the most vital skill required from a director.
@@samharold9022 I can’t speak for the OP but I’m of the opinion that each of their works *do* stand on their own (I agree with you that all great films should btw).
For me, I tend to “feel” a film the first time I watch it. It has to work on that visceral level for me before anything else (I think Ebert had a similar outlook, not sure). The Wachowskis films have always worked on that level for me because it’s clear they understand the language of cinema and the importance of aesthetics in a visual medium.
To me, their intent is very apparent in their films but as shown in the two comments above yours making fun of what is *intentionally* a goofy Flash Gordon/Sci-Fi serial romp because it’s not 2001, maybe their wide release films just aren’t to everyone’s taste.
i love adam touting his strategy of finding good restaurants as ‘foolproof’ like nobody’s ever thought of accessing the amount of five star ratings on google reviews before.
I think the ritual to banish the red panda was there to give the film an arbitrary “ticking clock” to compensate for the low stakes.
Am I the only one who remembers when slice-of-life was a thing?
Turning Red is not The Fugitive bro
@@spencerlane415 I guess not. I don’t even remember what I meant by “arbitrary.” The low stakes are acceptable.
turning red was set in the early 2000s becaue that's when Domee Shi, the director, grew up
Alex mentioned a game like the Lighthouse, there is a spooky game on steam called "No one lives under the lighthouse." its pretty neat
The setting for Turning Red is a reflection of the life of the director/writer of the movie, Domee Shi, who was also 13 in the year 2002. Hope that answers your questions about it boys.
Edit: I swear to god, every time I leave a comment on a video, the replies go to shit
No wonder it’s shit.
@@alexgomez6723
Why?
Pixar movies have always been about “write what you know” and some of their classic movies were retelling of actual real life events or situations that happened to the directors life (like the family crisis in Incredibles and Brad Bird). So now with Turning Red that’s suddenly a problem?
@@Indigo_1001 Yeah, because this time it sucks.
@@alexgomez6723 so basically what you're saying is, "you made a movie about your life, your life sucks, therefore, your movie sucks" lmao
@@commonaccidents1047 Exactly.
There is a game called "No One Lives Under the Lighthouse" which is as close to a tie in game for "The Lighthouse" that I can think of.
I don't know how anybody could call Speed Racer a "joyless" movie
The scene with little speed and his dad watching the race 🥹
YMS will find a way to
Thanks for answering my question about Vancouver restaurants Adam! I’ll be sure to check them out :)
The Skydome is usually the prefered name over the Rogers Centre, especially among Jay's fans. Also Rogers aquired it in 2005, so the name fits the timeline.
Speed racer felt like a modern day (new age) Tim Burton movie, with CGI and it's amazing, maybe it's cause I watched it in the cinemas at the time, but just letting yourself go and falling into that silly world, is so fun and surprisingly deep, and I fucking hate the old cartoon, and the speed racer movie is one of my favourite movies to this day definitely a guilty pleasure cause apparently it doesn't hit people the way it did me
as someone who watched the old anime, the movie is like a love letter to anime, it gets throught all major plot points of the series, and it´s super stylized with crazy transitions and all, it was actually a blast to see to me.
Its like "lets get this anime, and make it right" removing all the even bullshitier things and Speed being a complete asshole in the original at times. I find it as a good movie.
Speed Racer is my favourite "panned by critics and audiences" movie. Still love watching it once in a while
@@JulioLenin88 ahh man, talk about panned I'm a huge fan of speed racer, astro boy 2009 and TMNT 2007
Speed Racer is my favorite movie. It definitely feels like an anime! The movie is long but constantly moving, camera always going, always racing. So fun. I love the over stimulation. Love the genuine playfulness of it all. Y’all complained about the best things about it! It’s camp or something right? The film is live action but feels like a cartoon at all times. The Grand Prix gets my heart racing every time! Love it to death!
The only animation team that could have pulled off a 2d racing movie at high quality was assembled for Redline and that took them 13 years.
Speed Racer is a fantastic movie I don't care if it looks fake it's a movie about somersaulting cars and campy dialogue.
I've watched it within the last year and I still love it
Hell yeah.
Yup yup speed racer is such a visual and emotional thrill ride
It is dreadful lol
I'm watching at 22:45 but I from what I'm told the setting was the last time a red moon eclipse was visible in Canada was in 2002 and thats why it's set in 2002
22:38 Honestly, I don't really get why a movie *needs* a reason to be set in the past, unless it specifically conflicts with the story and/or characters. Like... no-one complains about _Grease_ being set in the 50s, for example - 1958 was as long ago when the movie came out as 2002 is today. It's a nostalgia period piece.
sardonicast confirmed cringe for not liking speed racer.
I've also started playing The Thing, after I got an XBox emulator running on my Macbook during my most recent Covid quarantine. Some other great movie tie-ins I've discovered from that era: The Warriors, Scarface - The World is Yours, The Chronicles of Riddick - Escape from Butcher Bay (way better than the movies), From Russia with Love, and Ghostbusters obviously. So, my question is: Which movie tie-in game did you find to be more fun than the material it was based on? You've mentioned Avatar, but I really have zero interest in that particular universe, so I'm not gonna try that one.
And yeah, regarding plants: I've just turned forty, and have four of 'em in my living room now - but to be fair, half of them constantly die, and the other two are cacti, so there's that. I've also seriously gotten into cooking, and recently adopted an elderly cat, since the lady who used to take care of her moved to a retirement home. Yeah, I guess I'm starting to lose my wild ways, and turning into a boring, middle-aged homebody.
Also, thanks for calling them BELGIAN fries, Adum! We don't have much to be proud of in our minuscule artificial buffer state, except for beer, fries, chocolates, and surrealist art - so it's much appreciated! I actually only live a few blocks away from Jeanne Dielman's apartment, and it was thanks to your review I finally sat down and watched that masterpiece. Jan Decorte, who played her son, is a friend of mine I drink a coffee with in the afternoon every now and then at a local café, so it was weird to see him as a young man. Also strange that it took a Canadian/American/British podcast for me to check out this Belgian gem, but there ya go.
Oh, and sorry about the lengthy post, but as you guys said: I made it as long as I needed it to be ;-)
I unironically love Speed Racer, I think it’s the greatest American anime adaptation ever made and I don’t care what anyone thinks, say what you want but when watching the film, there’s way too much charm and genuine passion from the filmmakers to not enjoy.
I saw Speed Racer opening weekend matinee show. It was packed with kids. When the end credits hit, all the kids spontaneously jumped up and started dancing. The oddest moment in my movie going history.
1:25:25 No One Lives Under The Lighthouse is an indie horror game that is directly inspired by the movie. It’s exactly what you would expect and well worth it’s price of $7 on Steam.
I saw Speed Racer in the theaters as a kid and I was absolutely the target audience. Speed Racer wasn't a huge property back then, but there was an american adaptation called "Speed Racer: The Next Generation" playing on TV at the time, and the DVD re-releases of the original show were starting to become common, especially after they announced the movie. So it was at least part of the public consciousness. Even at that time, other kids thought the Speed Racer property was goofy, but I was a big fan and the movie checked all the boxes for me. It truly felt like a movie tailor-made me as a fan of the original show.
Between Speed Racer 2008 and Star Trek 2009, it was a good time for kids who had parents who introduced them to cool, old stuff prior to the reboot coming out.
I one hundo percent disagree that Redline peaks in the first race personally, I think the whole movie is super fun
How anyone can think that when there are moments like Miki and Todoroki making a clutch push into the higher positions because they have the advantage of being able to dig underground or just that final stretch with Machine Head alone, that surprises me. The first race sets the tone, but it really is the appetizer for the main course (ha ha.).
Speed Racer needs to be on 4K. I agree some of the effects fall super flat but the ones that are good are very memorable and creative.
This was the best episode in a while. It really felt like everybody had an equal amount to say about the movies and the discussions were great.
Pls never stop making this podcast
This was the best episode in a while. It really felt like everybody had an equal amount to say about the movies and the discussions were great.
Unsubscribed.
@@Severian_of_the_Guild 6/10
Ralph back at it again with such searing hot takes as, “Turning Red is better than The Good Dinosaur,” and, “Speed Racer isn’t as good as The Matrix.”
Not sure where this podcast would be without his deep insights, and his tendency to never flip-flop on his opinions the second anyone challenges him.
Godspeed.
Speed Racer is one the great films of the 2000s
Please watch more films from the 2000s lmao
@@johnl6192 I have man I'm telling you this shit whips. Makes Old Country for No Men look like pure dogshit
some very surface level talking points abt speed racer. "why would you make this" is such a baseless and pointless question in regards to any artistic expression - talking about how the property "doesn't deserve it", this is not the reason people make things unless they are thinking primarily about money or appeal. wonder how you can make those points alongside making a platform criticizing marvel, disney remakes, cashgrab sequels, etc.
Def agree that "Turning Red" was very *different* for Disney/Pixar; I mean - this certainly has to be the first time one of their films has ever even acknowledged sexuality (and Mei even uses the word "sexy" at one point).
They even acknowledge drug use, which I’m surprised no one mentions even if it is only one line.
@@giovan483 Not only referenced, but the clerk being accused of it looked visibly stoned. And he gets called a degenerate lmaooo
@@BOFAMET ngl, that part made me chuckle. It went over my little sister’s head
The "stripper music" part got me lmao
@@soapbiter36577 "What's wrong with that??"
I never understood the "it's just made to sell toys" argument. Does that just mean they are unique designs...in a children's film? You could say any children's film is designed to sell toys, right?
Usually when people say that they mean the actual writing/quality of the show or movie is an afterthought to the cool action figure character designs that they want kids to want toys of
5:17 As a kid, I assumed it was just a thing in Australia, to show ads before movies. It was only when I watched the Amazing Atheist's video about what he hates about movies that I was like, "Crap - they do that in America too?"
I thought Tim Curry was the villain in Speed Racer when I was a kid. Watched it last year and was like:
"Wait that's not Tim Curry!"
Roger Allam is great as the villain though.
Confused men can't handle colorful wacky car movie : the podcast
“Everyone in the movie is terrible”.
Are you serious? The performances are pitch perfect in Speed Racer! Wild takes…
cope
Everyone besides the parents were awful. Even with that being said, they didn't really do anything special.
@@bhq3860 it's an emotional and visual thrill ride if you're able to just let yourself go, speed racer is fucking amazing, it makes you feel like a kid again, puts you on the edge of your seat with he unique one of a kind racing, and the emotional family drama bloody hell 🥹
@@Magikct Movie almost put me to sleep
@@Magikct What does this have to do with the performances?
I appreciate you guys putting everything that I love about Speed Racer into words, even when you're talking about how much you hated it lol
(Not that I blame you)
Exactly how I felt
Idk. They seem to completely misunderstand how that aesthetic overload is kind of the point of the film.
Nobody watches anime because it’s subtle, and the Wachowskis are the only filmmakers to ever translate it to live action in America to understand that
They don’t seem to kno a ton about anime themselves.
Completely agree, it does deel like they misunderstood, I wish they didn't focus on the anime angle as much
@@iansmart4158 what do you mean that anime isn't subtle?
@@P0rk_Sinigang Just make your argument. I hate when people try to set traps. No matter what he says you're going to pretend like you don't know what an ecchi anime or a Shonen battle anime is.
It's kinda sad how they completely overlooked the story of Speed Racer because the movie's style is so goofy. I think it's a really good story about family legacy and not selling out the things you love. It's very good if you can get over it's over the top style, which i definitely can. Also, i completely disagree with the Racer X stuff, in my Opinion he's the heart of the movie, the reveal at the end isn't supposed to be funny, it's supposed to be emotional. I don't think critics really can enjoy this movie, because you're supposed to look at it with a fully emotional mind instead of a critical one.
The final race makes me tear up, it's amazing.
@@FrancoisDressler when we see His mom tell Speed about how seeing him race takes her breath away hits me right in the heart.
It’s your parent telling you that they are so proud of you and overwhelmed with your talent. It’s so special.
It’s a movie about how Speed could only win with the help of everyone around him. Trixie, Pops, X, even chim chim and spittle. Speed needs them all.
And his win at the end is as much there’s as it is his.
It’s literally a movie about the Wachowskis honoring their collaborators. It’s beautiful.
And yet Tim Burton is praised for the goofy nature.
Speed racer is amazing, visually and emotionally, and the effects being so out there I feel help for any generation to fall into it if you have an imagination, it's so out there that you can either hate it or give into the kind of movie you're watching. It's not trying to look real or be realistic with the effects or races, it knows what it wants to be, it wants to be unique and to fucking does it 👌🏼
I will never understand the cult of Speed Racer.
I was trying to figure out why I’ve drifted away from these guys content and I think I might’ve figured it out. For a long time on RUclips I feel movie criticism was based in negativity and anger. Like the Plinkett Reviews and Nostalgia Critic. And every other creator has come from that mindset, including these guys. They have sort of updated in recent years but most of their content is steeped in negativity. Like “I hate this movie” and “it sucks balls” type beat. This schtick is just getting real old for me and other viewers. You’re allowed to like things and I feel creators have unknowingly sucked the joy out of media criticism. This isn’t meant to be a shot at these guys I listen to the pod pretty frequently and watch the occasional video, I’ve just realised that the culture has changed and me with it.
Speed Racer is like a 10/10, has some cringe moments but the heart of the story is so effective. Speed’s story arc is great, everything doesn’t have to be realistic all the time!
Per Wikipedia, Speed Racer's name is Go Mifune in the Japanese version. Americans dumbed it down and just called the character Speed Racer as well.
that's not dumbing it down, it's a clear artistic choice to stray away from naturalism
It's barely dumbed down even if it is. The Japanese title is Mach GoGoGo, so his name being Go as well isn't all that different than him being called Speed. The Mifune is just named after an actor, so a proper localization would just be something like Speed Bogart, named after an actor as well.
There was one thing I laughed at in Don't Look Up and it was the fact there was a "when the impostor is sus" reference in one of the montages
“Let me tell you somethin, cars 2 is the greatest fuckin Pixar movie in the world.”
- John Gotti
25:47 To be fair, the trope of the kids wanting to make a big buck at school has been done in shows that were actually made during the 2000s, such as _The Buzz on Maggie_ and _Summer Heights High_ (and even _SpongeBob_ , even though Sponge and Pat are adults, albeit immature), so this may have also been done as a callback to that time.
alex you should try growing aquatic plants, a bunch of them are so easy that you can essentially plop them in some water and watch them grow like anubias, banana lilies or java ferns and you can then advance onto things like dwarf lotuses and waterlilies, water hyacinths, water poppies, mosaic plants and stuff like that which are still probably easier than most of the houseplants you kill
God, Don't Look Up was fucking painful.
I think the issue was that, frankly, it was shit we've been dealing with for six years now on the internet, crystalized on screen with zero nuance. Not only am I sick to death of seeing the same tired discourse presented as a "satire," but reality has literally become a satire of itself. The movie isn't a joke, our own world is the joke, and this movie trying to be in on the joke just feels like a kick to the head.
It's not funny, it's just. so. tedious.
Honestly, that movie could be the source (victim) of a very cathartic parody movie when put in the right hands.
@@FrancoisDressler Pretty much.
Excellently phrased comment. Its like when my boomer dad shows me "erhmagerd" memes or says Karen
Speed racer is a absolute masterpiece
Dude, I can’t explain how seen I felt as a female going through puberty in 2001-2003 by this movie. Girlhood is a hell of a thing, the experience of female puberty was ca-turned quite well here.
I disagree with the other two, and agree with Adam concerning speed racer. I got a 'Lazy Town' over-the-top 60s-80s retro cheese that a Pixar or michael bay would never do justice, imo. The complaints about
NONrealistic reflections or obvious green-screen action is missing the point. Thats like complaining about spider-verse movie animation frames.If that's not someone's cup of tea, then that's fine. Take old vs new Lion King as a crude analogy of stylistic direction
Turning Red is the first Pixar movie I've enjoyed in a while. Nothing that really wow'd me, but oh my God was it so cute. If I were younger this definitely would have been one of my favorite movies ever. Turning Red was what I really wanted from movies like Soul, Encanto, and etc. Having a more down to earth plot for a change like in Ratatouille with a bit of supernatural Weirdness combined with a more distinctive style that could help make it stand out.
I wouldn't be mad if this won an Oscar. Which it probably will.
And I disagree the length was perfect, it was short and sweet and really flew by. It was a coming of age story about family trauma. It never felt like it dragged for me.
My favorite thing about this movie has to the soundtrack hands down. And not just the boy band stuff, the entire soundtrack actually slaps.
I want to belive it will win, but Across the Spiderverse is also coming this year so...
@@spacecowboy3569 I mean there will probably be better animated films that come out (There always are when compared to Pixar they just really don't get the same industry backing), but it is Pixar so... you know.
@@ilovecody7514 Yeah, I too wouldnt mind if Pixar won, but Spiderverse took everyone by surprise
@@spacecowboy3569 "Across the Spiderverse is also coming this year..."
ouch...
@@DrawtoonzStudio Yeah dude, freaking ouch. Guess we know who is winning now
Speed Racer does for my eyes what breakcore does for my ears. I crave that overstimulation like a junkie craves his fix
IDC what anyone says speed racer is a classic
I feel Adum gonna love the original speed racer series if he tried. The dubbing is so atrocious that its kinda funny
I understand that trailers are ads, but I enjoy watching them.
The 2005 King Kong tie in game was good.
Absolutely insane to me that Ralph compared the aesthetic priorities of speed fucking racer to Scott pilgrim and the original Star Wars. They took this movie way too seriously. Later in the episode Alex specifically says he wished the movie was just 90 minutes of camp so I’m really confused as to what exactly they thought this movie was going for. It wasn’t trying to be citizen cane. Obviously the movie is extremely flawed but so many of the critiques that they had were specifically counter to the priorities of the film. None of the critiques were “this movie failed at what it was going for” it was all just “I don’t like what this movie is going for”.
scott pilgrim and the original star wars are some of the silliest films ever made, wdym
The funny thing about the machinima question is that there is a show called Arby n the Chief where there are multiple episodes, more recent seasons which is the last, that are an hour and a half long. Check it out, it was one of the more popular machinima shows
Man, Speed Racer is just one of my favorite movies ever made. I fully believe that the excessive use of CGI and Green Screen look the way they do intentionally, as an attempt to really push the "real people living in a cartoon" mood, and it totally works on me. It's really a movie unlike any other, and I do understand to an extent why its strangeness may turn someone off, but I just struggle to imagine myself enjoying a film more. The thought of that rumored sequel both excites and terrifies me, but considering the vision they had to make the first one, you best believe I'll give it a shot.
The only 2 things I remember about speed racer is the scene where the guy has to plug the hole of the piranha tank with his finger, and just being really frustrated because he could have just pressed his palm against it. The other thing is when we were walking out of the theater with my little 6 year old mind blown, saying to my parents "that was great, I think there's gonna be a sequal" and they laughed. Fuck you dad, speed racer is great
Speed racer was ahead of its time. If it was made now with better effects and blending of the cartoony style and environments then it would have been much better received with the same exact story.
Regardless, I believe it was achieved fairly well when it was made. It has so much style and heart and all the actors really sold their characters well I can't believe how anybody could say they gave bad performances. All the racing scenes are really well edited and the opening was incredible in the way it sets up speed's character, his beliefs, his background and his entire dynamic with his family all within like 10 minutes.
Once you look past some of the goofiness you have a pretty heartfelt story about a family that cares about the integrity of their craft up against a mega corp that couldn't give two shits about the "art". My only major gripes are just a few spritle and chim chim scenes and the final race where it keeps cutting back to previous scenes but overall I love this movie. There's definitely more to like than just purely the crazy race sequences.
Ralph is on a home run with these recommendations 😭
Its so weird hearing the sardonicast guys literally talk like studio executives when discussing Speed Racer.
"Why is it so long?"
"What's the audience?"
"Why is it so complicated?"
"Why is it so hyper-edited?"
"Its too colorful!!!"
They don't seem to get that its simply a passion product. Its almost like they WANT it to be a watered-down, focus-tested corporate snooze-fest.
Something being a passion project that’s not concise doesn’t make it good necessarily. In concept the movie could work but the execution is just a mess unfortunately.
Edit - which is not to say that they want it to be a corporate product, but something being focused doesn’t mean it has to be plain
Passion projects can still be shitty. Something being a conscious decision bu a director doesnt make it good or the right decision. They dont want it to be watered down they want it to be good and all that shit makes it bad. So like, wtf exactly is your point
@@Crocomum What’s not concise about it?
*”watered-down, focus-tested corporate snooze fest”*
You mean, that’s ISN’T Turning Red?
Ralph really didn't have anything to say about the Ratatouille quote? Very disappointing
I mean the 1960s show was just as stupid and really weird...
Exactly. It’s an amazing adaptation. And the film is even better!
Exactly. It’s a perfect adaptation. It’s literally just a live action episode of the show
I’m not kidding in the original anime Speed is literally a villain that the show refuses to call out
I understand Adum not enjoying S. Craig Zahler, but I really enjoyed his movies. They really stick with me and I remember them, right up my alley!
There's a thousand other directors worth the ire but S Craig Zahler is doing what he loves which is making extremely literalist 70's genre call-backs. He's far more original than your avg director, that's for sure.
Adams content is way longer than Ralphs content
Surprised about how much you didn't understand Speedracer, it was pure anime, it was fantastic, that scene when Racer wins the final race is incredible. Come on man!
One of you guys need to recommend the qatsi trilogy
Speedracer rules
i forgot speedracer existed, it would be a very fun movie to have James review
Going off memory-- cause I watched a lot of Speed Racer as a little kid and later saw the movie-- one aspect about the original show I don't recall them capturing too heavily in the movie was the sort of detective/foul play angle, with campy '30s-style mobsters and tycoons bribing and bidding in the background. Not to say that the show was all about that, but it would've been nice if the movie delved into that mystery angle a little more with some action on the side.
Are you kidding me, that was a big part of the movie. They really highlighted the amount of foul play and fixing that happened within the races and all the different mobs/gangs.
@@CsDanex21 Huh. Shows how long it's been since I've seen the movie. Perhaps it was more of the tone that I don't remember lining up.
@@adhoclavaman yeah it’s like damn near the entire plot of the film. With campy mobsters and everything!
Watching Speed Racer on Acid is the intended experience btw
I don't know if Alex will ever see this but there actually is a good game based on the lighthouse it's called no one lives under the lighthouse, it's going for like a classic ps1 aesthetic it's pretty cool.