The Different Costs of a Boundary Survey
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- I talk a little about why it cost different amounts for a boundary survey. A very basic discussion by a Land Surveyor. If you are having a boundary dispute call a lawyer - no legal advice here.
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I love the piece of the pie analogy! You have to survey the whole pie to determine the location of the piece. Perfect!
Thank you!
As a crew chief for the last 20 years working for a surveying firm Tommy Boy is spot on with his piece of pie analogy and reasoning with the cost of a survey. There is a lot of research and time before you just see the guys in the field.
Thank you Sir! Thank you! I can't say that enough. Just trying to help people understand...that's all.
Right on. The pie example is genius and will be using that from this point on. Its hard to explain to a potential client why their estimate is $2,600 and that is perfect.Generally the surveys we do are on a plat, and tied to a section corner or two in Minnesota. In CAD, and in Minnesota with the PLSS system, each county has their own coordinate system so, each section corner has a Northing and Easting. With that, we can compute the boundary in CAD and export points on the coordinate system so rather than spending five hours trying to find the corners themselves - not the adjacent ones yet, i can find the corners with accuracy to a tenth of a foot. That five hours now can take three.
The costs of a survey also depends how much research is needed around the property. Some are lots and blocks - relatively speaking is the most "simple", but some are in government lots, in the north and west tiers of the north and west part of the township which requires some math, and some clients have a deed that hasn't been updated in 70 years and their deed doesn't match a county's Property GIS mapping website. This can cause a $1000 survey to reach $4-5,000 and if the section itself is bad - overlapping issues or the math doesn't add up, another $1,000+. But if it reaches that mark, we are doing a full topographic drawing, with buildings, impervious surfaces, setback/zoning information, etc.
Surveyors' Rule \w/
Thank you for the comments and thanks for watching. Just trying to keep it simple to help people understand. 46 years experience myself. 35 years licensed. I wanted to get into a little further but maybe in another video. Thank you again. God Bless.
Great explanation bro, a deed of land is evidence of what the owner bought and owns but a survey is an actually proof of what they actually have considering the possession, maintenence and occupation of the subject property if it so comes to that opinion and evidence in the field. That takes time and effort as well looking out for the best interest of the public with old fence lines and etc. Surveying is not cheap and why its not cheap in my opinion is what iv mentioned already. God Bless
You guys and your public land surveys come and work it a "metes and bound" state like I do. I had one "piece of a pie" I was doing a boundary on and the metes and bound legal description for the "pie" did not close by over 2500'. But you are right I always told my crews when doing a boundary you are not surveying the clients piece of land you are surveying all the adjoining pieces of land and the last one surveyed gets whats left, most of the time.
Been a Land Surveyor for 26 years. Wanna know more bout Land Surveys and procedures of what it takes to survey land id recommend Curtis Browns books of surveying. What we do and have is the Science of Measurements. Our equipment we have alone to perform that is thousands of dollars no matter what state you from. Land Surveying is NOT Landscaping, it is a practice and yea like a doctor and lawyer. Troops on the ground doing the survey, computations, drafting, legal descriptions and most of all the stamp and sign of certifying the map and survey. Land Surveyors are a must and it cost to get all the above mentioned done. Property related, if not the Surveyor? Who? Good video
Thank you Sir.
Clear and concise. Thanks for the info.
Thank you Kid Kid. Yes, so in reality you can have a 50X100 piece of ground or 5 acres and that has nothing to do with the cost, the size of it anyway. It is all based on how it is described. Thanks for watching!
Thank you. I need 13.57 acres surveyed there is no survey recorded. They used to have 20 acres and sold 2 Acres of it Shouldn’t there be a survey of that whole 20 acres? That might make my price a lot cheaper
Same problems we have on Italy for find a old cadastral linee on field ; it's a hard jobs to do :) ... and not all people understand a much jobs we need to do for make a great work.
The comment was for the public that needs to understand what we Surveyors are and what we go through.
I was sticker shocked to receive a $4k-$4500 quote for a survey , thank you for your video... my property is a 2.16 acre weird shaped piece of cookie dough left over from a nearby 1996 subdivision. i am measuring it with a wheel and its not matching the maps from the city. i have 12 sides, one side is 21 feet shorter and another is 4.5' longer, one neighbor has a drain field and sewer line easement that hogs half an acre and there is a 10' wide private dirt road that splits the property right up the middle, that road has an egress and ingress easement that is 30' wide for part of the road and 45' wide for another part of the road and 58' wide where it meets the county road... all of these easements really limit my options of where i can build. on top of all that, they did 5 perk tests around the property and there is no place for me to put a drain field of my own other than the place where my neighbor already has their drain field because the subdivision shoved all their excess dirt onto the property and regulations cannot allow a drain field unless it is original virgin dirt. so my next option is to bring the city sewer main 500' down the public street.. so that's what i have been endeavoring to do.. wow $16+k in engineering fees later we have a city sewer main extension plan drawn up and approved by the city , lowest quote i found for the underground work in the street was $120k . good news is that I'm inside city limits and lot size minimum is 7000 sq. ft. so once the sewer main is to the property i could divide up my land into smaller parts if i wish.
well so far i can see building my own house and having potential to split off 2 or maybe 3 other conforming city lots and get some of my investment back, also once the city sewer is on the property, if the neighbors drain field ever fails they wont be allowed to fix it, they will have to connect to the city sewer and i could split off another 2 lots from that space..
you are probably wondering why i would even purchase this land?
well, because the old man who sold it was tired of 15 years trying to sell it and basically gave me the whole thing for the cost of a 5000 sq ft city lot.
and there is no good builder lots in this little Oregon town just outside of Portland.
6 months into this (during covid) its been quite the undertaking, and we haven't even broke ground yet, I should do my own RUclips videos ha ha , so i could bore everyone to death ha ha
Thanks for sharing that interesting story and thanks for watching. Sounds like you are on the right track and hope all turns out well for you.
That should not be the case. I believe we are miss leading people. I base my calculations on each job. I might put more time in a job I might not get but I never loose money. I look at the deed, the area, the cost of gas, timing, etc. I do the research and evaluate all the evidence. We go to school in most states for 4 years plus internship, and two or three test depending on state. Every client I take on , no matter how difficult is treat equally and I do not play favorites. I personally believe you should never look for the cheapest surveyor when it comes to one of the most expensive purchases you will make in your life time. I personally believe you should pay more for a boundary survey and less for construction work. I really believe construction layout work for the most part can be done by anyone. It takes a little more talent and expertise to determine the right stone / tree / boundary evidence.
"But that's more than I'm paying for the fence. I'll just put the fence in without it." 😶
@@jpmacoo and that is your right. Its also your neighbors right to get a survey and find that your fence is over the line. Also you must have access to some cheap fence good for you. I wish i could get some farmers to give up some old barbed wire so i can at least make my fence.
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You missed the quotes, bud. I'm a surveyor, and that's what I hear when I tell some people the price of a boundary survey.
i wish, mine cost 1500 although it hadn't been surveyed since 1888.
Well explained💯💯
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good information!
Thank you Sir!
Here in Los Angeles they want 10-15k?
Are doctors liable forever for something they did? Surveyors in our state have no statute of limitations, so that survey they did in 1980 is still a liability for them. That is why they charge so much. $350 is way too cheap for any kind of boundary survey.
Good point and most don't realize that.
Hi Tommy so ive inheritant 116acers and have to split amongst 3 in Texas Brenham but no im in the dark of what it might cost me and my sibling as two of want to sell and the other is just confused but I came on here to self educate of what I should expect and if anyone else like to put there two cents im all ears and thanks again........retired veteran
Get the deed in your hand and start calling surveyors closest to the subject property. Let me know how you made out.
@@TommyBoy3D I definitely will and thanks for responding
Doesn’t a fence on the property determine your boundary? I’ve been at my home and there’s a fence, so I go with that ??
Simply put a fence does not determine the boundary line. It could be close however. But a only a professional Land Surveyor can determine the boundary line. That's why a mortgage company or title company require a survey to close on the property so they can see where the fences and the other improvements lie in relation to the boundary lines.
I was quoted 12-15k for boundary survey on my 2.1 acre!!!
WOW! I would like to see that legal description! I would ask for a detailed break down of the estimate. Shop around Mr. X. But do remember that the size of the property be it 1-20acres has little to do with the cost of the survey. It's all in how it is described. 20 acres could be cheaper to survey that 5 acres. Sounds weird but true. Get a break-down of that estimate even if you do not understand the (survey) language. It will get them to really think it through again.
Omg I just bought 8 acres. Can only imagine how much this is going to cost me
Is $1,200 a lot for a survey on my house with a property of .34 acres?
It is all based on your legal description. How much surveying and research has to be done before they even get to your property sets the price. You own a .34 acre piece of pie. But the surveyor has to survey the whole pie in order to determine the "placement" of your piece plain and simple. So without knowing your legal description $1,200 could be high or fair or even low. Sorry I could not help you more and thanks for watching.
Like others, I got a big quote, over $4,000 for about 1.3 acres on a street corner lot. I think that includes topo.
Looking at the parcel map, my property is 4 adjoining lots with only four corners to be concerned about with the south west and south east corners being right angles. The north east corner is at the street corner. It seems really simple to me. The street corner is unimportant because I'm going to set back everything from the street, then once I find the south east and north west corners, south east should be simple triangulation since it's a right angle. Technically I only have one neighbor to the west (an undeveloped plot) and to the south it's an undeveloped road plot (which is never going to get developed due to slope).
I'm tempted to get an RTK GPS setup to do it myself, that's about $1,000 in gear or less (Sparkfun) and a couple days work to figure it out but I'll have the gear afterward.
I'm in a situation where I'm not going to be pushing the boundaries with setback limits or anything so close should work and then I'll pull in my fence to avoid any possible disputes.
The topo shouldn't matter to me as long as it has acceptable accuracy and all of my improvements are set back enough from the boundary that slopes and drainage are the only concerns.
I know perc tests for septic are an entirely separate matter, I'll have to bring in someone for that unless I can find some community college course and certification to do that (I don't know if it works like that or I need some sort of PE sanitation engineer to stamp a report).
It is frustrating. I didn't find any corner markers when I was looking (I didn't dig or metal detect) but it seems like it should be simple to mark building sites well within my lot setbacks and to put a simple T-post and wire fence a few feet within the lot boundary. Even if I screw up the boundary a T-post and wire fence isn't so permanent that I can't move it if I place it wrong.
If it was $1,500 I would understand, a couple guys would go out, locate the corners, collect topo data with a GPS fancier than the DIY setup I'm looking at and maybe spend another couple hours producing a report. I'm wondering where the extra $3,000 is going?
For reference my land is in an old mining town, pretty rural which is why the road plots don't always have a road on them and I don't think anyone is pushing for unbuilt roads to be built.
Go straight to hell
Does 1,500 sound right? My dad is giving me an acre of land and the surveyor said they'd charge us 1500 to come out. We're in Alabama where things are much cheaper.... Does this sound right to you?
4 acres in total, 1 acre to be surveyed....
Tamara- without knowing your exact area as a surveyor that is not from your area. And not seeing the legal description of the 4 acres all I can say is that it sounds fair compared to the area that I am from. Try to get the “most local” surveyor to the property. Perhaps you can speak to a neighbor as well who is in the same vicinity as the property. Do your best to find a surveyor who has been surveying in and around your property. But all in all sounds fair to me.
I'd kill to only have to pay $350 for survey.
Try 12,000 8,500
Ouch! Hope you made out ok in the end. I think I should update my video..... due to inflation :-)
800 -1500 for my half an acer
Hmmmmm........seems high. Need to see that legal description though to know for sure. Try to find a surveyor who has been in your area.
Isn’t the realtor suppose to know this
A realtor should understand the concept of a boundary survey.