12 Year Old Boy Murdered at Wilderness Camp For Troubled Youth? North Carolina
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- Опубликовано: 29 июн 2024
- On February 3rd, 2024, a 12 year old boy was discovered dead in a bivy (sleeping tent) at the Trails Carolina camp for troubled youth. This is not the first death to occur at the camp and there have been years of investigations into abuse there.
Let's discuss this case, along with all the search warrants, reports, and documents together. And may there be justice for CJH, who died within 24 hours of arriving at camp.
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00:00:00 Intro
00:01:30 Where did this case happen?
00:04:51 What was 'Trails Carolina" ?
00:07:38 Another attendee died?
00:10:05 What happened on February 3rd, 2024?
00:14:35 Why did CJH's parents send him to this camp?
00:16:13 Probable Cause Affidavit
00:26:46 In a bivvy?
00:29:20 Death ruled a homicide
00:32:08 Survivor of this camp expresses what she experienced
00:35:50 What happens next?
00:36:55 What the camp looks like?
00:39:22 Trails Carolina's statement
00:42:00 Video clips and survivor's stories
00:59:50 Like a burrito?
01:05:04 Transylvania County Sherriff's Office Media Statement
01:10:28 Camp responds to Sheriff's media release (snark time)
01:20:00 Autopsy report
01:29:53 Medical Examiner's report
01:34:08 License revoked
01:36:44 Debrief and Outro
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00:00:00 Intro
00:01:30 Where did this case happen?
00:04:51 What was 'Trails Carolina" ?
00:07:38 Another attendee died?
00:10:05 What happened on February 3rd, 2024?
00:14:35 Why did CJH's parents send him to this camp?
00:16:13 Probable Cause Affidavit
00:26:46 In a bivvy?
00:29:20 Death ruled a homicide
00:32:08 Survivor of this camp expresses what she experienced
00:35:50 What happens next?
00:36:55 What the camp looks like?
00:39:22 Trails Carolina's statement
00:42:00 Video clips and survivor's stories
00:59:50 Like a burrito?
01:05:04 Transylvania County Sherriff's Office Media Statement
01:10:28 Camp responds to Sheriff's media release (snark time)
01:20:00 Autopsy report
01:29:53 Medical Examiner's report
01:34:08 License revoked
01:36:44 Debrief and Outro
You shouldn't use his picture or his name. He's a minor and a victim. That's not okay.
These camps have to be outlawed. This happens fairly often, doesn’t it?
I can’t believe ppl are taking their “behavioral problem” kids to a place that literally traumatizes them and possibly gives them mental health issues, PTSD, anxiety etc. I’m absolutely flabbergasted the more i listen to.
Right
Ohhhh this makes me so mad. The parents don’t want their name out there because they FAILED their child big time. And every single person involved in setting and carrying out that “protocol” should be charged!!
I’m sure the parents’s were doing what they thought would help their son.
Not only Failed their child, also payed tens of thousands to the camp for their failures.....its quite evident the young lad was acting up as any problem child with adhd would on the 1st night, and there "protocol" is obvs "we'll teach this little sheeit a lesson" and they put him in a bivvy bag upside down, and likely 2 or even 3 adults sat ontop of him till he shut up....imo....so sad, nd how terrifying and claustrophobic 😢
No, they didn’t. I’m sure they wholeheartedly believed it was helping him. Have some compassion.
They let their 12 year old child get taken away by force in the middle of the night. Have some compassion.
@@judymurray191These parents knew or should have known these camps are extremely abusive. There have been many stories like this and of surviving victims. They sent their kid to be tortured even if he had lived. They are reaping the consequences of the risk they took with their own son’s life. Poor kid.
If they're pulling these kids out of their beds in the middle of the night, what need would they have to strip search them? Not to mention, there should be some law against strip searching children! Sounds pervy....
It could be for perverted reasons, but it's also a way to dehumanize the child and break them down and let them know that they are no longer a person and have no say in what happens to themselves and nobody is going to come help them. If they can do this to you, they can do anything to you. That kind of thing.
@@pinkrubixSounds like a bunch of power trippers. I've seen it over and over. Like half of the Police in my city. They were bullied in High School, now they are bullies with badges.
@@pinkrubix yeah, I could see that too. Sad :(
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Why on earth would you put children with disabilities, mental health disorders or substance abuse disorders at the same camp 😮 These children need very different and specific forms of support. Where are the parents in all this?
Between 1978-1982 I worked for EastSeals at a summer camp for handicapped children. Mental or physical disabilities. We kept the groups separate. And life was so much easier back then
The ironic thing is while these kids are packed off to an abuse camp for substance and behaviour probs.....while they're gone the parents are probably of taking substances snd acting like children
Right. And why isn't North Carolina monitoring this. There is a ranch I support. It is not for the mentally ill. Each building has house parents. These kids are lucky they aren't in juvenile detention centers where they have access to drugs and connect with other belligerent young criminals. They don't come from privileged homes. I think they are soon thankful for an orderly life, 3 goods meals, and help with schoolwork.
@@pabloestafez6830can we not victim blame the parents? Until you have raised a child with a severe mental illness, substance use disorder or intellectual/developmental disability no one has the right to judge what they know nothing about. 😢
@@denahoward4194yes, the parents are at a loss.
Why such restrictive beds? Why not just have regular beds? Obviously, the sleeping situation is physically restraining, causing claustrophobia!!!! Who WOULDN'T have a panic attack?? Torture chambers for young people. SHAME
The thought of sending traumatised children to be re-traumatised terrifies me. It’s an awful thing to do to any child, especially one exhibiting difficult behavior. They might be neurodivergent, suffering abuse etc. awful
I don’t see how the senior counsellor in the cabin doesn’t end up being charged with manslaughter, not to mention child abuse/neglect.
But neither Trails Carolina as a company nor the Department for Health and Human Services should be allowed to scapegoat one individual. This goes all the way to the top: we need to see the CEO of the company prosecuted, as well as those in local government who green lit this den of abuse year after year.
There are lots of these wilderness “camps” for in the back of Sunset 🌆 Magazine!
I cant believe they removed and hid the 3 roommates from the police, or so it sounds. Those are the best witnesses. I was in Boy Scouts, we always used the buddy system. No one ever left alone. We always had adults watching over us.our parents were always welcome to join us. Even at summer camps, we would have family days. Once a week. I'm not saying this particular boys parents are guilty of anything, it clearly was the camps fault. There should have been some parents somewhere. ANYTIME ANYONE SAYS "NO PARENTS ALLOWED " IS THE BIGGEST RED FLAG ON EARTH. My roommate apparantly was bad enough in school, his mom or grandma would SIT IN his classes during high school. Very effective, and quite embarrassing. He eventually graduated, and went to USC. In my own life, when my parents were getting divorced, my sister and I were sent to live our summers with other family members, we didnt realize what was going on. It never seemed like punishment, it was so they could have a few months of freedom, while THEY WERE SORTING OUT THEIR PROBLEMS.
@@user-pr1pe4ke1gYES!!!! 💯
This place sounds horrible, I wish people didn’t send their kids away when they can’t parent them properly.
I was biting my tongue, wanting to say the same...😢
I keep hearing absolute HORROR stories about these types of camps... so WHY are parents still sending their kids there, to ANY of these types of camps? And this kind of thing has been reported on for decades, camp after camp after camp. It just sounds so horrid! 😢
It’s often those parents fault
It really does....I am the mother of a child with ADHD and severe behaviour problems when young, and who was diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder at 16. It's been massively hard for him and the rest of our family, but I can honestly say that, along with medication, family is what he needs to get through every day.
@@mah3223aliaTY for your comment. I have schizoaffective. Apparently since I was a teenager. Yes. My family is my main support system. But my friends keep me balanced, and out of trouble. There are things only our peers can understand.
This is so heartbreaking -- no child should be treated like this.
I live in NC and have worked in mental healthcare for youth. This is not the only horror story regarding abuse at residential treatment facilities. It’s not just the wilderness camps. It’s horrifying.
My son has ADHD and anxiety that stems from it. I cannot imagine sending him away anywhere. This is so sad. Justice for CJH ❤
Have you heard of Primitive Reflex Integration Therapy? My son's ADHD and anxiety is greatly being reduced by going through it! We are doing an at home program from In the Cortex, it takes time and consistency to start seeing results but it's working for him!
Wow who the hell would pay that never mind a single penny for your child to be TORTURED. As someone that suffers major anxiety i couldn't imagine anything worse than being trapped in one of them bivvy coffin looking hellhole traps
The parents should also be prosecuted
Another problem with pretty much all correction facilities is they throw kids who did not have agression problems together with kids who got severe agression problems.
I can’t get over that part. And also I think the genders and ages should be separate. If a 12 year old boy is in there for anxiety and he’s bunking with a 17 year old mentally ill drug abuser that’s that’s terrifying to think about what can happen. Or a little girl and an adult male. No
Parents should have to watch the movie Sleepers before they ship a kid off to a juvenile rehab because it's not rehab just punishment. They come home angry and bitter too. Please stop these monsters.
These camps should be illegal. Parents should not have the option to allow others to abuse their kids.
There's been SA allegations of counsellors and some volunteers for years in these types of camps. The ones who threaten to tell authorities seem to suddenly pass. It's despicable!
That movie traumatized me watching it , such a scary situation to be in
Western NC is beautiful, just bring your children out there for a family vacation and forget these stupid camps.
51:51 this is bringing me to tears. I have C-PTSD, Disassociative Disorder and Anxiety....I DO NOT deal well with touch or feeling trapped...I am 53...these kids need validation and to be believed. Let them share their truth without questioning it.
💕 I agree. It’s horrifying!
I think that troubled children should have counselling with a licensed professional in an office, with a parent nearby. It's not safe to send a child away to get treatment without supervision, in my opinion. This sounds more like a torture camp than a therapeutic one.
I'm a funeral director and embalmer in North carolina. Most toxicology and autopsy reports take 4 to 6 months to get back from the NC medical exainers office
If 4-6 months, why do some automatically list 1 specific drug, of which has been known to be a problem?
@@doreen6659well, if someone overdoses on fenty there will be evidence around such as pills, needles etc But they would say a suspected fenty OD until full results come in.
Are you familiar with the Mica Miller case???@@doreen6659
They seem to know already that he was denied his anti anxiety medication.
After finishing this I watched Paris Hilton documentary I was in tears. Then I watched her in congress and she is so well spoken. I hope she speaks out about this recent report. It’s heartbreaking and the fact parents are paying 10-30k a month for there kids to be tortured is shocking
Thank you for bringing awareness to these types of cases, G! Hopefully, more of these types of camps will be closed down! Justice for the victim! Excellent presentation, G!
Yes, that is child abuse G.
Having a history of migraines and was found to have cerebral edema is a red flag to me. Also clonidine and klonopin are both drugs used for anti anxiety in addition to clonidine also used for hypertension. This child having anxiety and being put in confinement can lead to a severe panic syndrome where people can actually die from it. I'm a nurse and have witnessed patients in severe panic and all efforts are made to relieve it because patients will code if the patient is "in confinement" being held down against their will which is often done because the patient is a risk to others and themselves. Heavy sedation is given to stop the panic. It's a very scary predicament for medical staff and we know there is great liability if the patient is harmed because of our mishandling of the patient! Panic is not to be ignored nor is it to be down played!
Reading this makes this poor child's death even more shocking & sad 💔😭. Shame on his parents!
Thank you for explaining this.
Parents too lazy to be bothered with the children. Shame on them
Gisela, thank you for covering this. One of the news clips is from a channel we watch. This camp is about 1-1/2 hours from where I live. It's unfortunate this camp was run this way; the area is absolutely gorgeous and could have been so beneficial to these children.😮
All these kids are "troubled" because they had worthless parents that failed them. They ignore or allow them to get into trouble and then they don't want to "deal" with them because the parents are lazy and useless!! So they ship them off to these abuse camps. The camp controls these children through threat and intimidation. They use violence and have no compassion. My Aunt sent my cousin to one of these camps in the 80s and my Dad was so mad. He went and got him and my cousin lived with us, no problems at all, he just wanted attention and to feel important and loved.
I agree with you. Most times they don’t feel loved or paid any attention. That’s so wonderful he got to come live with y’all. I worry about kids these days constantly
So people send their troubled kids to camp for torture?!?!
Yes
Yes , have u ever heard of those horrible conversion camps?
I’m glad you named them people! Parents raise their kids, people don’t! I have four and not one of them have been an ounce of bother. If they had been there would be no way I’d send them to a camp!!!!! 🤬
It's VERY common in America sadly - and there are a lot of them all over the country.
It's got to be easier than admitting the damage those jabs did!
Had the grandson all day today so couldn’t join the live. He’s gone home and I’m team rewatch ‼️‼️🫶🏼🫶🏼. Thanks for all you do G🫶🏼Jil
This is appalling and far from therapeutic. In a hospital any type of patient restraint that restricts movement requires a physician order.
And tons of documentation and checks constantly!
Well, I want to know why 1. His parents would send him there after what had happened before? 2. Why didn’t state CPS(?), talk to children there constantly and investigate all allegations?
I agree it appears that ‘Trails’ was a disaster… but let’s not ignore responsibility of the parents and state authorities 😔
you are SOOOOO CORRECT ! those parents are at best deceived but likely not willing to actually “ parent “ their children , so they look the other way when abuse etc is reported !!! 🤬
Their reviews are horrible. Why did his parents send him there?
This is heartbreaking. You can not HELP a child by causing more trauma! Are there any good stories that come from this kind of facility? None that I have ever seen
Unfortunately, the mental health/rehab system DOES NOT CARE ABOUT THE CLIENTS! They only see$$$$. It's repulsive.
What a beautiful boy lost to uncaring adults.
Oh my I'm just Furious about this nothing but lies upon lies from the counselors or workers whatever they are. DHS wasn't allowed that's b******* all those children should have been removed immediately this Camp should not have been up and running after the last child being discovered 18 days after he ran away. This is all just outrageous .😡 this poor 12-year-old boy totally failed by everyone😢
"escorted by 2 Strangers" wtf they still do this to kids in the US ?!
Even if someone generally sleeps without clothes, i highly doubt he would have chosen to sleep naked in a new place where he is being treated badly and abused. The instinct would not be to be naked and vulnerable.
Kimberlee, I absolutely agree. If he did take those clothes off, it was likely because he was hot, uncomfortable, or confused. My heart goes out to the little guy. This is hard.
Pure insanity in this case. No underwear? No pants? And the father states: "that's normal". No, that's not normal, at all. Put some damn clothes on !!!
The big question is …WHO KILLED THIS POOR LITTLE BOY? I’m just sooo angry 😡
Same, it sounds like others were involved with shortening that child's life.
in short the adults in his life killed him !
Replay crew here! This is crazy!! Thanks for covering! 🐻🐻🐻
Not like a tent, more like a coffin.
WAIT, so a kid DIES there and the other families LEAVE THEIR KIDS THERE!
Right?
I would hazard a guess that they weren't informed and because they wouldn't give names to police and only first names to CPS, no one else could inform them. Maybe they didn't know until it was shut down and the kids sent home....scary thought really. I'm not sure how much it would have been covered nationally when it happened so might not have even seen it on the news. Or perhaps the camp played it down to them, like with their response to the LE statement. Mind you anyone who lets complete strangers come into their house at night to take their terrifed child, doesn't really scream caring, loving parent so maybe they just didn't care
So horrible! I would never do that to my kids!
Rest in Peace, Dear Boy. Mother of God, he was only 12 & so small.
I am a survivor of the troubled teen school in Jamaica. "TRANQUILITY BAY" I was sent over 20 years ago. I still have nightmares
I saw that place in a documentary, it was shut down, right? I’m sorry you were sent there but I hope you are doing better. You survived ❣️
I’m so very sorry.
I've had two friends who were camp counselors at (different) places like this. But these were more like the, 'hike into the desert and force the kids to learn to survive of the land' type of camps. One of them quit bc he really wanted to help the kids and really cared about them, but he kept clashing with management and senior staff about how exactly was the best way to achieve that... Basically he didn't like how harsh they were to the kids, and he didn't like that he was getting reprimanded for going outside their direction and they said he was coddling them.. he said it's positive reinforcement and encouragement. They didn't believe that had any place in the curriculum, not until they had proved that they earned it. INSANE to me.
But one thing i know to be true - kids *will* resent their parents for sending them away. And parents *will* regret their decision, even if it's made with the best of intentions. These kids get scarred for life. And it affects their relationship with their parents *for life*
Exactly what happened to me!!
I was a team leader and couldn’t handle how they were being mistreated: and of course the way I was with the teens was wrong.
I follow two simple methods for parenting. 1 Structure and discipline. 2 Incentive and reward. I met my current wife back in 2011. She had a son who was constantly in fights and other stuff in and out of schools with anger problems. He was 11 when I stepped in and told her to put him in military school. Willamette leadership academy in Springfield Oregon. He graduated with kernel honor roll and got a certificate from the governor. I gave him incentives to do his school work with things he wanted and privileges. I followed through and always kept my word. Anytime he messed up he lost his privileges and had to earn them back. He had structure and guidance. Parents need to stop trying to be their kids friend and be a parent. If anyones out there and they are having trouble with their kiddo. Try these methods , the work I can promise you that.
It's suspicious why they did not allow the other children to be spoken to or interviewed by the police. How old were those in charge? How many people put CHJ in the bivvy?🤔
There’s a very good reason why insurance companies don’t want anything to do with these “Troubled Teen Camps”. These camps don’t have a 24 / 7 on site medical professional. I work for a small not for profit medical insurance company and I remember speaking with clients about these camps. They often don’t have the licensing that is required for CMS / Medicaid guidelines.
I am a firm believer that these places are just a money grab and are dangerous. They often hire unqualified workers with little or no mental health qualifications.
This industry needs to be shut down.
Great comment.
Everything you state is absolutely accurate and correct.
Right on. Definitely should have a medical bay, and a licensed psychiatrist 24/7. Its not nearly the same, I was in boy scouts. We drilled so much First Aid, because we literally would hike to the bottom of the Grand Canyon and up the other side. We had equally well trained adults (a lot of ex-military parents) . And I seen it a few times, young men/boys, hauled out by a Sherrif's Helicopter, the leaders did what they had to do. None of this cover up BS that's going around. This Trails camp, Maddie Soto, Sebastian Roger's, Summer Wells. If those were accidental overdoses, drownings, head injuries , just call the damn ambulance, please everybody. I have mental trauma from applying my first aid skills. My friend I went to the corner store, and when we come out, there is a guy in a Motorcycle helmet laying in the middle of a pretty busy road. We didnt even hear anything. So I hand my bag to my friend, run into the street. First to stop traffic,and stop him from trying to get up. Stay down, Stay down. Thankfully a car full of my younger homeboys were passing by. So I get them to wave traffic around me and this guy on the ground. Call the ambo. I look down at his leg. It looked like an overcooked chicken leg. A bloody mess. I empty my pockets, give one of my young homeboys my keys, wallet money and phone. And wrap my sweater around his leg. While telling him don't look down. He would have went into shock. He's struggling trying to sit up and stand. I can see him using his arms, his one good leg is moving, he's lifting his neck. Ok. Must not have a spinal injury. That's why I didnt want him to move in the first place. I've got his leg wrapped up. Applying pressure. I make the decision, let's get him out of traffic, onto the grass on the side of the street. My homeboy was kind of resistant, but we dragged this man to the curb. He was sitting up and semi coherant.ok. we covered a lot of bases in under a few minutes. Then, his girlfriend or sister? Comes running up, apparently she was on the Motorcycle as well (I never saw the Motorcycle, apparently it was like 100 feet away). Shes panicking, trying to take off his helmet.wrong move lady. NEVER TAKE OFF A DOWNED RIDERS HELMET. Leave it to the EMTs to make that decision. So now I'm fighting, literally for her to get away from him. Shes fiesty, standing over me. I'm like, lady just sit under him.hold his hand. All that good stuff. Nobody wants to keep pressure on his gushing leg wound. Scared of blood. That's understandable. Miraculously, this blond haired , blue eyed male, stops, he had be an off duty cop or EMT. He comes flying into the scene, with a full on , tourniquet, the real stuff you see the military use. Thank goodness, he had that in his trunk. Massive blood loss, equals instant... expiration. Dont know how, don't know why,. This complete stranger to us all, applied the tourniquet, I was trained to NOT use it. And yo. No joke. When EMS showed up, it didnt take 3 minutes for him to be back boarded up. Give clear definition of his injuries. They packed that boy in the ambulance with his girl. I was in shock myself, I guarantee you. Later that night, my young homeboy ,Returned my keys, my wallet, my cash, my phone. I was still trying to process. So yes, they need medical staff on deck. I am no medical professional
@@user-pr1pe4ke1g Good Samaritans are always needed. I hope that he was ok. My parents were motorcycle riders. They toured the country twice on their Honda Goldwing. It had a tow hitch to witch they attached a custom trailer for motorcycles. I always worried about them, but they never had any issues.
His cute face,,omg😢
He looks like an absolute angel! Poor, sweet little boy! 😢
I would be re opening the 17 year old boys death investigation. Their story is he fell out of a tree, more than likely placed there
Yes yes!
Something fishy. Unless he had a head injury, couldn’t he have crawled out? Even with a hip injury?
I love being a Grizzly, you care about us and the victims! You are a true upstanding person!
I don't believe for one second that in this situation, being in a new place, in a sleeping bag, around a bunch of strange staff that have basically kidnapped and assaulted you, that he would have taken off his pants and UNDERWEAR. I sleep the same way but would NEVER in this situation.
Exactly!! Not a chance that he would have slept naked in that situation 👏👏👏
Yes exactly. Also, they wouldn’t have allowed that in this strict environment
Sleeping bags can twist your clothing and be too hot , it is possible he was uncomfortable enough to strip.
@@samporter2146 possible. We don’t know. But I wonder why his underwear were found out of the sleeping bag up near his shoulder. Seems like a kid would just pull them down and leave them in the sleeping bag. Also just seems really weird that in a place so strict they would allow him to get out of his sleeping bag & take off his bottoms. The reports talk about his movements according to staff yet no mention on getting up & stripping down. A lot for authorities to look at. I hope the family gets answers.
That is the least he deserves. This is so tragic!
I sent my son with oppositional disorder to a ranch in Utah. Hower, parents were involved in all categorys of mental health systems. They used horse therapy. This was a great ranch for my son. ❤
I am guessing that the ranch you sent your son to is licensed under a very different set of rules and regulations (compared to North Carolina) at a state level through the Department of Human Services? If not, it sounds like the ranches program goes way above and beyond what is required by them, and I commend you for putting in the time and effort to find such a place. Sadly, it takes tragedies like this to see any real change. Just shutting down the one camp is not good enough though, not by a long shot. Hopefully with so many coming forward, more will be done. I think the that the whole DHS’ rules and regulations for licensing needs to be overhauled, which takes time, so in the mean time all such camps should be shutdown. They should model their rules and regulations off of states with the best services.
That sounds like an amazing place. Involving parents is wonderful ❤️
Did your child sleep in or outside ? Does your child share the same sentiments towards this place?
My son went to a therapeutic camp/school in Maine. It was very good and nothing like the one in the video. The kids had therapy, learned life skills and did equine therapy(horses) Parental involvement was an absolute must. Bi-weekly parent child therapy via Zoom and they had parents weekends throughout the year. My son didn’t want to be there at first but ended up liking it. He went from struggling in school to graduating 6months early. Not all these places are bad like this. However parents need to do their research before sending their kids to one of these schools.
That sounds totally different. My son has ODD but didn't get diagnosed until he was 18. He would have loved horse therapy, he was calm and relaxed around most animals. This sounds totally different to the camp Gisella is talking about.
As far as confinement and restraint of children it is usually not legally allowed in a hospital and for adult patients who are in such environments they have to be continuosly monitored by medical staff and the least restraint necessary is used because it is a known fact that the risk of death in these situations is high if the patient is not watched carefully.
I pray more and more parents will look at these type of stories and don’t put your kids in these type of places look what Paris Hilton went through. She’s fighting against these type of camps and things for children.!!!
Wow, I'm going to watch that documentary next. If Paris Hilton can get this much respect in one comment section. I'm thoroughly impressed. ( I loved her in "The Simple Life" TV series.
@@user-pr1pe4ke1g Paris had the same issue. Her parents had her taken out in the middle of the night. She was definitely abused of these places. She talks about it all the time she’s in Congress fighting to close a lot of these places. Your parents had no idea what kind of a place it was.
Is “therapy camp” code for “abusing children” …. Absolutely cruel!!!
Clonidine is often prescribed to ADHD patients for sleep and ,sometimes , to help calm the hyperactivity.
Is it really? Whoa! Not in the UK thank goodness.
These are terrible places and always have been. I understand that parents who send their kids here often feel desperate and are acting on bad advice from trusted people, including some professionals. But these places are not safe for anyone's child. Please, please, stop sending your kids to places like this where you can't be there and can't watch what's going on. They heinously abuse children at these places because they can get away with it because the parents aren't there to see and stop it. If you do send your kids to places like this because you think well THIS one is different, please listen to your kids if they try to tell you that they're being abused. It's a huge red flag if your kid is telling you that they're being harmed and the people they're accusing of harming them are telling you that your kid is nothing but a liar and manipulating you. Bring them home.
I watched a show a while ago about a girl who survived a place like this and as a young adult travels trying to shut them down. Horrible places! They brainwash the parents, most of the parents had no idea?
Elan house
Some of these camps target children with attachment disorders. That brings up all kinds of additional concerns. This is so sad. Parents get desperate. The state needs to shut all of this down imo
That "sleeping bivy" looks like a freaking coffin.
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Was he locked in this sleeping bag? 😢
Wait! WHAT!!!
Excellent overview, G! Thank you for covering this case.
As a newer Subscriber I must say I thought today’s intro with the Grizzly Bear in the wild was pretty cool.. Great Job as always..
Trails is EVIL !!!! My ex husband had my child kidnapped and driven there on Christmas Eve. He was tortured
I’m so sorry you & your son had to be put threw that so horrible I’m sure he must have PTSD now after everything 😢
CAMP?!? Totally a boys detention center. November. February...WHAT!?!
My daughter is exactly like this boy, with added SEVERE anger issues. I can't imagine doing this to one of my kids. They literally paid this place to murder their needy child. Their child who needed their attention not punished to death.. garbage parents.
This is just shameful beyond measure! WHY would ANY parent bail on their kid like this? let alone waste the money
Thank you for covering this. I’ve been wondering how their investigation turned out.
I don’t understand this, so a child dies under suspicious circumstances and the camp staff can refuse to let anyone check on the other children, why did the police not force this if it’s a crime scene ? Why does the camp have this much power? I’m from the uk, never known anyone send their “ troubled” child away to a camp. Child services here get counselling for the child and any help they need without the child leaving the home, unless of course the home is the problem, then they would remove them.
Shared to my social media platforms. Thank you, G, for your fantastic reporting!!
As a parent regardless how hard it is with my child, I would go to the end of the earth and through the trenches myself and never turn my child to others to "fix". A former athlete started a camp like this and he too was shut down over abuse issues. These camps are everywhere and most if not all have similar horror stories. Parents, toughen yourself up! Do your job!
Another beautiful child, let down by those he trusted the most! I don’t know about this world anymore…
I agree, it makes me very sad!
That camp is only about 76 miles from where I live, . My grandson went to a camp very close to that one with his school, last year he had a great time, but it was just for the weekend and as far as I know it was just a summer camp. I raise two grandchildren and after hearing about this I won't be sending them to any camp ever again unless I'm with them. The only reason I agreed to last year was because several of the adults who chaperone were police officers that I have known for years..
Thank you for always "digging deep" and giving us all of the facts... and great snark!
I remember you had mentioned this when it did happen. How horrible and my mind went to “how many missing kids could be in places like this” 😮😢
They used the “bivy”, because the staff were lazy and wanted to sleep instead of watching the boy closely
If you can’t agree on a treatment for your child with their consent you shouldn’t be in charge of anyone but yourself!
The operators of the camp are responsible for overseeing the rest of the staff to insure appropriate care of the children in the camp's care. But know that if you have signed an agreement to turn over care of your children by this place and they fail to keep the child safe and healthy, you can file complaints against the organization.
Sadly these children are not listened to when they report abuse. They are written off as 'troubled'. 😢
About to watch this. I’ve been wondering what’s going on! I almost covered this story. The woman who founded the camp got her start at one in Idaho where they “burrito” children. Thanks for covering this!
What is it with packing kids off to camp?! I just don't get it. So many awful stories out there about these types of places, I just couldn't put my child at risk like that. (I'm in the UK, we don't have places like this)
I worked at a therapeutic boarding school for teens in Montana. It was so messed up. All about power. They were giving all
Of them medication (drugs) and fed them the worst food ever. I had a fight with the lead therapist of the group that I was attending. She had so many issues of her own. It was so bad. I felt a relief when quit during that fight. I felt bad leaving the girls behind. Turns out, one of them died of an overdose a couple years later after she left there. This school
Made these kids worse not better.
Gross.
Oh my word 😱 That sounds horrible! Thank you for sharing! ❤
Protect all children, thanks for coverage that brings abuses to light.
I personally think this is your best intro yet. I do feel a lot of families feel some sort of comfort with how you present the facts surrounding their loved ones death and/or victimization.
This case is mind boggling to me and so so tragic 💔. I do hope that soon since his death is ruled a hom*c*de that someone is going to be held accountable. I do hope that all the survivors know how brave they are for coming forward and that they have found peace.
Teenagers are still children. This is so sad. Prisoners get better treatment than this. I would never send my children away in the first place but to have them taken from their bed and me watching bc I planned it is truly disturbing. Those kids will never trust an adult ever again. This poor boy didn’t deserve any of this. I hope more than one ☝🏻 go down for this tragedy.
These places need to be shut down. As a parent we have to much information available to us to make this decision justifiable. The excuses for sending him there are beyond pathetic.
I believe any parent who’s willing to send there child to those places need to be held accountable for the damage it does. Just vile.
RIP sweet boy you didn’t deserve any of it. Totally heartbroken.
If they restrict how a kid or the parents can contact each other, its a big red flag
This is making me furious! Horrific! Poor child 😢
10-30k a month to send your kid off when you could’ve just got therapy at that price is crazy. Poor little guy. To be taken all that way with ppl you don’t know to a place you don’t know .. I’m pissed 😠
Therapy doesn’t work, we need more access to help for our troubled kids!
With the facility being for "troubled teens" runaway would be the perfect excuse to blame the children and not the facility. Sad this place hid behind the children mental/ physical weaknesses to escape justice this long
A lot of these camps that say that they’re “outdoor” camps they say they have all this recreation, but mostly the kids are locked inside all day long and all night so they never go outside. At least that’s how it was at Provo, which is in Idaho. Paris Hilton was sent there by your parents was middle of the night take down that she still has PTSD from. Those camps are just a fucked up way that people are making money off of putting kids in jail and they should all be taken off the market. They’re just the wrong way to handle the situation. Just get your kid in therapy and hire your own damn minders
In Pennsylvania, IIRC, a judge was receiving kickbacks from similar "youth behavioral health facilities" for recommending that juveniles be sent there...a profitable system all round, it would seem.
Thanks for all you do G, your compassion in these cases is what makes you head and shoulders above other crime channels.
This case is heartbreaking, when i was a Teen i would have been a “prime candidate” for a place like this! What is it with parents who wont take accountability for the way their children struggle in life! Im now 50 and fairly recently got diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder due to childhood abuse/trauma at the hands of my “parents” i struggle every day to live a productive life and find hope, my only solace is that i fought and made sure i broke the cycle with my own son. This poor boy and so many 1000’s of others who have been bullied and terrorised at home and in these “camps” it is unforgivable and their ONE AND ONLY purpose is to break kids spirit! Shame on them all.
I think parents as well should be held accountable
I wonder why no one would hear him struggling it seems like he would be yelling for help. It seem like the other children would of heard him at some point.
I think they did. But I can imagine they were restrained as well or maybe highly medicated so they were not able to help.....😢
Was he checked for SA
Pretty sure that’s standard procedure for forensic investigations, so most likely
The child sleeps in the nude because he is sensitive to clothing tags?? So cut them out, better yet get tagless underwear! Poor kid, nobody listened to him! The fact that he was willing to take his pants and underwear off to go to bed in company of other adolescents plus adults just shows you how young and naive he was!!
This is absolutely terrible.
Why would ANY caring parent subject their child to this BS.
I'm not convinced these parents didn't know what went on there.
Any good parents would do their research first. Terrible 😢
People stop sending your children off with strangers, especially if you do not investigate these places. If you believe your child has behavioral issues or any type of diagnosis ADD ADHD autism seek Counseling in your own home no more filling the pockets of these camps that are destroying children 😢😢
Parents need to be the ones going to camp, to learn how to parent!
THIS , yes !!! 🤬
You are so thorough, the most thorough of other channels. It's apparent that you do your work and research.
Thank you 🤩🐻