Why Some Cars Are More Fun to Drive Than Others
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You’ll sometimes hear enthusiasts describe their car as a “driver’s car,” and it’s tempting to think that’s just an excuse for not having enough power. But what they mean is that the car lets you experience driving. A driver’s car doesn’t isolate you from the road, it amplifies your connection to it. It makes driving engaging. Greatness doesn’t happen by accident, and today we’re going to figure out how to engineer a car to give a great driving experience.
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“I’m a mathboi, I need some numbers to back that up”
*makes entire video that literally doesn’t contain a single number*
How would you get the numbers for the drivers connection to the road.
@@sonicroad5209 steering ratios, motion ratios in suspension, wheelbase and other geometry, there's a ton you could dig into...
@@sonicroad5209 low center of gravity
They are trying to make the videos approachable to everyone. Math is a turnoff for a lot of people
@@maverick9662 it’s a great video I just thought it was funny
Me: "It's a driver's car! It's meant to be engaging!"
My Wife: "I get it, but does it really need that many zip-ties?"
Zip-ties are love
Zip-ties are pain
Zip-ties are life
@@lefisheauchocolat968 zip-ties save cash
Zip ties show you your g forces obviously
Lmaooooo 😂 💀
@@griffinsells2611 but you gain 10hp+ per zip-tie
"the average comsumer isnt interested in driving and sees it a chore" thats why we no longer have fun cars at the average price
It is a chore but when you love it ever second behind the wheel make it all worth the extra work we have to put in to our drive 😆
@@blacksheepcustomspa8787 If you see driving as a chore, it's not for you.
@@rhycemg don't think you understood what he is calling a chore
If they see it as a chore then they should take a bus
@@shoveI Dude... V6 mustangs of that year are so bad... The slowest thing I think I've ever driven and you couldn't pay me to do it again... A different size rear end isn't going to fix what the V6 has going on.. That'd take enough boost to sheer that lethargic lump in two pieces, quite possibly.
You've redeemed yourself by being the only other person I've seen that would recommend a tibby. Love the GT with the 2.7 as it's a genuinely EXCELLENT sounding motor with the right exhaust. Love those cars, they can look really good too.
Next D-List should be a driver’s car ranking.
miata immediate S tier
@@sergiomontoyabriceno5674 currently have my friends 2019 2.0 miata for the weekend. I've never driven anything so modern yet engaging
the top drivers car would be a Integra type r from 2001
Yes
yes
I still love my 09 RX8 R3, has recaro racing seats, electric power steering assist that disables above 20mph... lowered and stiffened suspension and performance class 19" tires. NA engine with 9500 rpms paired to a 6 speed manual with a short throw shifter makes for a very engaging experience. I have recorded 1.07G lateral on skid pad and it is a blast on twisted back roads.
How many miles? And reliability? Just asking, not bashing
Hell yeah I have an 88 FC and I live in a very County backroad state. Not fast but handles like a dream.
FD here with an 8374 EFR, and the boost is almost instant and pulls all the way through to about 8500. That coupled with 18x11.5 and 285/30 on all four corners, my goodness.
Puts a smile on my face every time I drive it. Absolutely in love with this car.
Fellow rx8 owner here to agree with your statement
I LOVE my rx8, it’s a fantastic driving experience and nothing I’ve driven has come close yet. Not even a wrx. I do wish it had a bit more power, but the dream is an rew swap someday, don’t want to give up the rotary
It is absolutely insane how intelligent Jeremiah is. He explains stuff so well that even people who do not comprehend car mechanics can understand.
The best drivers car I had was a modified 13B rotary engined 76 mazda.
-It had what felt like a 50-50 weight distribution
-Its steering literaly talked, would detail everything of the road yet was easy during low speeds and would get serious in high speeds
-short shift that literally made you want to shift and shift
-It almost stopped on a dime, with Brembo ventilated discs and hi-po pads, without sidetracking
-I felt like I was driving a fully balanced car on all axis, with Koni shocks and shorter coils, like I was sitting in the middle and mastering an X-Wing
-the smoothness carbon apex sealed engine revving all the way to 10k rpm in like a second
-the noise of the exhaust brapping along, burning all the glass beads, having to change them in a few months
-the flame swhoosing out in the back, especially while idling in traffic, rocking the car side to side,
-the induction noise starting from a removed front round headlight and the whine of the belts while the turbo was winding
-and the sleeper look in repaint metallic blue, widened original rechorome wheels, white wall rubber, with lots of chrome like brand new
My first and last love, drivers car. I miss you babe. * -sigh- *
I mean he is most likely reading a script, but his presenting skills are so good that you forget that
His intelligence helps, like a young James May.
@@kyleking3087 im pretty sure hes got a masters in biomechanical engineering, and worked in the aerospace field
@@kyleking3087 He's the one who wrote the script, so its indicative of his good explanation and presentation skills.
I like to be able to FEEL my car. Like when an oversized speed bump scrapes my oil pan and I can feel it in the shifter.
I mean, it does produce a strong visceral response (of terror) so I guess I have a driver’s car?
Yes, a driver's car--OF TERROR!
Lmaooooo 😂 💀 AYO FACTS tho 😭 😂
I really love feeling each and every person from the crowd I hit.
@@chrishernandez2490 You're either a Mustang or ScatPack/Hellcat driver.
Bruh💀
Donut: "why your car sucks"
Me, looking at my 1.6 diesel KIA Cee'd: "Don't worry, I already know that"
😂
That's not that bad of a car a vw fox that's a real shit box shitty 1.0l 45hp engine which has a higher 6l area consumption than an astra h twintop 1.9 cdti which was the diesel version of that car plus it had a turbo as well even considering that it was an euro 4 diesel engine
They changed the title 😂
Me with my 1.9 TDI 😖
If it's good enough for top gear it's good enough for you
"There also shouldn't be any delay in that response, and power should come on smoothly"
*stares at 2016 chevy spark*
Those 80s and 90s Hondas have that low-to-the-ground feel that I love. Nowadays newer cars feel like you're driving a suv. Also, I love that cockpit feel BMWs, SAABs, Supras, and many other import cars have; driver oriented dash clusters.
2014 focus st feels this way.
I sat in a Boxster and fell in love with Porsche. Pre-pandemic prices for Boxster were really a bargain. Every Porsche I have ever driven is the epitome of a drivers car for me… and that’s why I have 4… I am addicted to driving.
I love the greenhouse design of older BMWs, you're always aware of everything, everywhere. Sure I'm dead if a truck hits my A pillar, but whatever lol
THIS. Get low and feel the flow.
My car: too bumpy, loud, interior rattles, mysterious engine bay noises
Me: it's a drivers car 😎
My mysterious engine bay noises turned into low compression on cyl 1. What can I say, it's a driver's car.
@TommyInnit 🅥 stfu
@TommyInnit 🅥 your mother
A
Too much communication 😂😂
You guys forgot the most important thing that makes a car more fun: *Pop up headlights*
I believe you mean "pop up up and down headlights".
THIS guy Miatas
My mk2 MR2's headlights bring me a lot of joy
Sucks they don't exist on newer cars. 911 hood or rx-8 fenders are a good modern surrogate.
@@crazycjk Hahah same 👽
This video was actually needed as it helps many young enthusiasts to grasp the idea of 'Fun'.
I'm a simple guy, I stamp the accelerator and a big smile appears on my face.
Or the guys building 800whp street cars thinking that's all the fun you can get from a car
Yep, too many spec sheet racers these days
Yeah, so many people out there thinking their car is more fun just because it is quicker.
@@vandita3695 AGREED
I love my Fiesta ST. I wasn't into cars until I bought one. 2 years into the car scene and each day learning more and more!
I drove a recent one for month a while back and holy crap it was fun! I opened up the airbox to get some turbo noises going but otherwise had a total blast. Had half the power of my own car (it was a rental) but I've always loved small, light and tight cars. Engines that rev and want to go, manual gearbox and feeling like you're really driving, pushing the car as far as it can go while going at reasonable speeds and within your actual skill level.
Love my car but it's faster than I am so it never feels like it's having to try so it's very calm
i hope you and your fiesta are doing well
@@gaydogs doing great! just hit 32k, and still very happy with my car :)
thanks!
That's why those oh so underpowered Fieros are still a blast to drive, especially the 88s with the improved suspension.
Yep, I don’t have hands down experience on 88s but still drive my 87 GT every chance I get and love every minute of it!
Someone needs to do a “Donut out of context” video. Start it with “I can hear things through my butthole.”
Or James with his shirt off and a diff in front of him
You can do it!
"Oh, it's doo-doo!!!"
"you scream at it, you punch it, communicating with your car is a lot like relationships"
ruclips.net/video/derEDul38ng/видео.html
For me, it's the classic Mini. It's essentially a go kart with a roof. I've driven many many cars even supercars, but the little Mini when tuned properly never dissapoints when it comes to responsiveness.
I've ridden shotgun in one and ive never had so much fun in a slower car. The only thing close to it is a miata.
So responsive, even ropes and a broom will do the trick. ruclips.net/video/dNn4YFvQLMI/видео.html
have you ever driven a setup 90's civic?
When people rallied the classic mini, they used to say they could out-corner a corner. Handling for daaays.
I'm sorry for asking here but I might get the most replies:
So it feels a bit stupid to ask but what car is in the thumbnail? I really want to know and my car knowledge isn't that advanced...
Thanks upfront
"you're gonna need to throw in some numbers behind that"
*Doesn't give any numbers*
Literally zero throughout the entire video 😂
@@kyleforgan3949 I guess
I personally love my turbo 2g talon, the boost timing and throttle response is extremely predictable and its easy to stay in or out of boost depending on the situation
My '87 MR2 was definitely the most fun to drive car I've ever owned.
Damn I miss that thing.
Jeremy: “communicating with your car is a lot like communicating in relationships”
*Jeremy 5 seconds ago* LISTEN TO ME CAR! (Smack smack)
Exactly! Smackety smack smack. If we're arguin about where to go for dinner, maybe a Big Smac and Cries, is on the menu : D
@@jacobl6714 hahaha! Abuse funny
@@tacomeme429 Shush it's a joke
My Toyota 86 is a "Driver's Car" no matter how many mini vans gap me!
AMEN. I don’t care that I get gapped constantly by dudes with 5L V8’s that race anything with a spoiler. I have never not smiled driving my BRZ and will drive it till it blows up :).
Honda Odyssey’s be like:
You're still a hero at the autocross meet 🏆
Amen, brother.
@@snafuequals I just got into autocross with my brz. I never had so much fun it 10/10 recommend any 86/brz/frs owner
Being a S2k owner and the car almost at 20 years old getting in the seat every time it is such a blast wherever you go .
S2000 one of the best driving enthusiasts cars EVER!
S2k was Hondas last true drivers car
Wish I could afford one lol..
S2k is great and all, but a Miata can do what an S2k cannot.
…
A Miata can still be bought brand new.
/shots fired.
Jkjk… don’t take it too seriously, I meant it as humor.
@@HighlordFrancis haha S2000 still better
I have owned an NA Miata, MKIII Supra, AWD G37 Coupe, and currently drive a ‘19 STI and AW11 MR2.
Of all these cars, the MR2 is the car I really enjoy driving on the weekends.
Real mid engine is magic, people who haven't driven it just won't understand.
Throughout the video, I'm thinking, he's talking about my 2015 Nissan Micra, then I wake up.
That’s exactly why I like older Honda’s, they made sure the driving experience is engaging even if it’s just a civic or integra
i love my DC5 ❤ driving feels great
@@alexp2903 dc5 gang
Yes sir, older Hondas are way better than the new ones. These new ones are boring and pretty generic.
99 ex sedan ✊🏽
City type 2✊🏼
Sounds like a Scotty Kilmer title, lol
They changed the title lol
They changed the title😢
@@justinleonard6183 what was it before? There not a “this SUCKS” or “do NOT”
@@welpthatescalatedquickly6495 “this is why your car sucks”
@@welpthatescalatedquickly6495 "This is why your car sucks"
“Greatness doesn’t happen by accident, my dad would know.” -James Pumphrey
Lol
*pagani gaming intensifies*
Been driving an E30 for the past 8 years almost, bought it as my first car. It's an old 1985 318i, with an M10 inside.
I have tried many, many many newer cars, but none have the same raw feeling, no power steering, no electric windows, no nothing. It's just raw direct contact, hit a pebble, you feel it on the steering, hit a bump, there goes your butt. Turn too much too fast? There goes your tail sweeping over. Floor it after a green light? Here are your tires screeching off while it builds up speed.
I havent found a car so "fun" as this one to justify the switch to something newer, or even faster. I like in a somewhat small city, I don't need to go 120mph at any moment, and the fun I have while waiting for a green light while reving it up and launching it is more than enough.
You sir ger it
Early Z/S30 hands down! compliant, direct, and 99% predictable (other than that night in Vegas) responds to minutest inputs, and rewards with big feel around corners, and on every surface.
As a 240z owner I can say that the steering is very precise. Especially compared to other vintage cars I have driven.
Dear video editor,
Thank you for paying attention to detail in the multiple videos you have done. I appreciate how you make each shot flow. Your choice of audio is excellent and overall your work is mint.
Sincerely
R.D.R.S.
I secont that. Also, the B2B intro is awesome.
Me, looking at my stock miata: "i knew it, you’re the perfect driver’s car"
Same😂
Fucking miatas
Agreed 100%. I’ve had more fun driving a stock ~100hp Miata than a 300hp F30 335i.
Miatas are cool but only if your sub 5”10.
@@TheBmarshall15 my 6"0 cousin can fit just tight
IMO one the best entry level “drivers car” is the bmw z3. Not a lot of power but it really feels like a mini track car the way the steering responds and handles corners
Definitely go kart vibes
And the miata is the same
@@humanperson543 The Miata is more expensive though
@@polo86c4 Other way around in The Netherlands
I agree. I have a 3.0i Roadster, and I smile every time I drive it. 😁
I did not know Jeremiah was into GILFS. Especially sailing with GILFS.
I think the MR2 is one of the best drives cars out there. I got a 91 with a manual rack and I love it.
For sure! I've got an mr2 Spyder and whenever I drive it, I feel like I am part of the car. It really connects you to the road
This whole video resonated so much with me. I'm building my resto-mod Mustang and there are a bunch of old components I don't want to replace so much as upgrade. Manual brakes, manual steering, stiffened suspension all around.
We need more driver's cars. When you're driving you shouldn't be doing anything else except maybe listening to music. Adding all these automated features to cars is making people into worse drivers.
It all went down hill after cell phones got rid of the keypad.
@@DB-oh5dx and most buttons. all we got left are the power and volume buttons.
They are indeed making people worse drivers, as they cause a skill decrement over time. We can even see it in regular old cruise control negatively impacting peoples ability to maintain a specific speed.
@@samuelneff2798 Self parking, Proximity sensors, "lane keep assist"? You mean your eyes? When you're driving you should be driving, it's not a mobile office, and it's definitely not a mobile makeup studio.
Also why do many cars weight 1.500kg or more yet brand them selfs light just for using an aluminum chassis or body panels,the jag f type and the audi r8 are best examples...
Donut: "The average consumer considers driving a chore."
Me: *looks at all the cars with CVTs and the bad traffic caused by idiot drivers and poorly placed schools* "Gee, I wonder why?"
I was just comment something exactly like this. I know track days are a thing but I don't know anyone with time for that; they're busy stuck in traffic.
Not all cvt’s are terrible, Honda makes some the best and most responsive ones, just drive a Honda Civic sport hatch with the upgraded engine and you’ll see. It’s way better then the shitty Nissan ones that break all the time. They also mimic 7 speed trannys (I know Pretty ironic rite?)
Geared automatics aren't more work to operate wdym 😂
@@-nightraider-1169 CVTs are ass
Another big factor is usability these days. Ever since affordable SUV's became a thing, people realized how convenient they can be. Modern crossovers can do all of the things we used to buy sedans and more. Honestly I'm surprised more companies haven't tried to make an "enthusiast" crossover. I could see that selling very well.
Gotta love the knowledge obtained from these guys. Especially JERR-VINCI !!
I have a 05 srt4 that I bought new in Jan 06. It has 93k on it and 5 speed and beefy tires and it talks to me all the time. We have had a 16 year relationship. Eat your heart out ladies. it doesn't have bells and whistles. It's a driver's car to me. Love donut. Good job guys.
I sincerely appreciate the fact that you decided to post this video as im putting my damn car back together. Thanks for the boost of confidence that it wont suck once its back together
What car is it?
@@MicahPotts 2011 WRX STi sedan
@@liamkelly956 noice
"Why your car sucks"
Me, not having one: *Surprised Pikachu face*
Me having a drivers car: Wait, what?
same
@TommyInnit 🅥 stop bein an annoying troll its annoying
Same 😂
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Donut : “why your car sucks “
Me: “ that sounds like my car “
Donut 30 minutes later : “why some cars are more fun to drive than others “
Me 30 minutes later : “ sounds legit “
I have a FR-S and it has a TOMEI UEL header, Perrin Performance Cold Air Intake, Invidia N1 Exhaust System, Tuned on OFT and it’s the funnest thing i’ve ever driven. I’ve driven a Charger & Mustang and i don’t feel the speed even though it goes fast, but something about JDM cars is that the seat is closer to the front and it’s smaller so you feel everything around you. It gives you a great experience and driving my FR-S brings a smile to my face everyday and it never fails me
This is literally what i've been wondering for a bit, a lot of my work friends are car nerds and i haven't gotten why they say a stiff chassis is better and stuff. Great video!
I was able to drive an E42 M3 once, which was a thrill. Another good memory was getting to do a couple digs with a Typhoon. I still think about that truck to this day and it was probably 25 years ago.
My own car is a basic MK6 1.8T Jetta, manual. Not the fastest car obviously, but it’s a goddamn hoot on my daily commute.
E46 you mean!
@@olivier5929 you are correct. I meant E46. 😊
2:20 the Pontiac 6000 finally made it to RUclips, best meme on the donut Instagram hands down😂
'Jerravinci' is the most cursed thing I've ever seen
Yes it is... yes it is
My old 91 Civic hatch was so much fun. Not a lot of power back then. I may build one with the 2.4 and limited slip.
You can find a driver's car at the cheaper end of the market. Mostly because these new things that separate the driver from the road are expensive, much more in older cars.
Jump in an old hot hatch like a Suzuki Swift or VW Golf. No power steering. The throttle cable connects your foot directly to the engine. Manual transmission. Super lightweight.
I personally have a Suzuki Ignis Sport. The last model before they introduced stability control, hydraulic clutch or fly by wire. Fairly cheap when new. Super raw response in engine and chassis. Recaro seats. The solid rear axle hides nothing from the road beneath. 83kW ain't heaps, but it does what you tell it.
Donut: "Why your car sucks"
0.00006 seconds later
Donut: ops, time to fix that title
You forgot to mention the manual gearbox! The best one is the Mazda MX-5, followed by Porsche Boxster/Cayman, Lotus Elise & Exige and the BRZ/GT86. Lightness and responsiveness over power and speed.
I would take any of my old honda manual transmissions and put them into my MX-5 if I could. Miata trans is OK but doesn't respond well to fast shifting. I love driving the Miata more than the Hondas or Acuras but I'd take those transmissions in a heartbeat.
These are literally the midlife crisis cars 😂
@@AltairBernardThey are fun cars, they're only midlife crisis if they have an automatic 😂
manufacturers: remove driver input entirely
taxis: am i a joke to you
I love when I get in a vehicle and it feels like I connect with it. Like when I drive I can feel everything the vehicle is doing or wants to do.
Then once I’ve driven it... it’s time to tune that ride exactly how I like.
My personal favorite right now is a Cherokee sport, once they get rebuilt to the way you want. I spaced out the wheels 6” total to limit tipping, rides low on 32’s... it’s been the perfect prairie vehicle.
This is why the older Corollas are awesome.
Assisted steering
Sharp throttle response
Really light chassis
There's so much more to it than that too, I'm really surprised there was no talk of wheel placement. Having wheels on the corners of the car plays a big part too that's why MX5's and classic Mini's are so loved
that wheel placement basically ties back to the integrity of the chassis and feedback to the wheels. he's not going to talk about every single component because theres a million lol. everything else simply ties back to everything he mentioned in this video.
Tbf I drive a 2015 mini and it's also very responsive and feels like a real drivers car. Obviously it's a completely different ballgame now, but the car is a blast to drive even though it's a 9 second 0-60 because it's so sharp and quick to turn
In Forza Horizon 4: *Bad Engine Sound*
Almost everything sounds like they're on fart cans.
I'm hoping FH5 would be better.
@@germaineliew2012 I think it is. The sounds I’ve heard already are far better then FH4
@@germaineliew2012 have you seen the audio footage they uploaded on their channel?
Bruh Fastlane
I see my E34 as a drivers car, good feedback, well balanced, sticks to the road, makes the right noises but also comfy when I want it to be
I had the joy of having a 2000 Mazda Miata and a 2010 Camaro SS in my garage at the same time when I was living in San Diego. I made many trips through the mountains between SD and Palm Springs with them, and I can't decide which was more fun, although the fun was had in different ways. The Miata was insane on the downhills, but ripping the uphills in the SS seriously got the adrenaline going. So I would say they both were driver's cars.
When you first started with Donut I wasn’t sure how I liked your shows to be honest. But now? I find myself never missing one of your videos 😂
*_miata is always the answer_* -sun tzu , art of war
I love that you guys used the Z32 for the thumbnail. I absolutely love that cockpit.
6:23
Miata is a really bad example of a convertible being heavier than a coupe. The Miata is designed to be a convertible first, so it doesn't have the same structural bracing issues as a car that is originally designed as a coupe and then changed to be a convertible, like the 350z. The ND miata is lighter than the FRS/BRZ
Then you tie in front and rear chassis rails, cage it, put chassis braces in and it weighs the same 🤷♂️🤦♂️🤣🤣
Hate to break it to you MX5 fan boys, your Nana's hatch back probably has twice the torsional rigidity
@@darianistead2239 ok but... car fun.
I will continue to buy Miatas.
@@darianistead2239 show us on the doll where the miata touched you
@@ChrisPBacon9 It touched my rectum as I pushed the Miata out🤣..
Just stating fact, yes it's lightweight but sacrifices rigidity. No one likes flexing.
Over rated, and I'm a Mazda guy..
@@darianistead2239 we’ve all had ass puckering drives... leaves zero doubt you’re alive.
Perfect drivers car, and I’m not even a little bias while I stare longingly at mine in the driveway, is the Nissan 300ZX.
Everything about the cabin, drivers seat and chassis is built with driver feedback and experience in mind. Even the control clusters are positioned around or pointed toward the driver.
The only consideration the passenger got was access to a door, window and a seat. Lol
Would you recommend a NA z32 as a daily driver?
@@iwishigaf I use my TT as a daily so yes.
It’s not for everyone, but not everyone is a true driver.
I think also a manual transmission is important for driver feedback and communication allowing you to potentially slip clutch a little on turns and very your revs etc. also 3000gt vr-4 my 99 vr-4 was just such a great drivers car in my opinion.
I agreed with everything except maybe the “instant power” part, some people just love the part when your turbo spools and unleashes all that power after 2-3 seconds. Also makes it less prone to spinout while accelerating.
"less prone to spin out while accelerating" - let me introduce you to the Porsche 930. xD
@@TheWolvesCurse yes with the engine in the back the weight distribution is flawless to acceleration. But in my case it’s a good thing all the power doesn’t come instantly, i would pay more than 2000$ of tires every summer
@@TheWolvesCurse huh? A turbo would make ur car more prone to spin out because of the burst of power compared to the linear power of NA engines. So idk what ur on about
I know a few M2 Drivers that would disagree with you in the wet. They sometimes regret having all their torque at 1600rpm
If you straight way junkies that just wanna floor the car whenever straight road exist, I can understand why
Because horribleness of massive turbo lag on winding road is no joke
Day 86 of asking James to do an uptospeed on Top Gear
I agree to this
this
Day 1 of not caring
Sounds like a copyright strike.
That's something I'd like to see actually
I've seen almost all episodes of Money Pit and many many other episodes and I just realzed Zach and Jeremiah are not the same person whaaaaaaaaat?
Wut
I have a 1987 VW Scirocco.
Its a great drivers car.
Recaro seats
Clutch- cable
Steering- power assist
Throttle- cable
5 speed manual
Inline 4 w/ 140 hp.
Weighs 2100lbs.
205/40/16 wheels
I actually speed up in most corners.
Its not the fastest, but the FEEL of the
driving is so nice.
Those to me are some of the reasons I feel in touch with the car whilst driving.
My MR2 Spyder electro-hydraulic power steering I really enjoy. It's hydraulic but the pressure is made using an electric fluid pump as opposed to a direct pulley pump. These systems were so useful they were and are the first thing pulled from the cars at wrecking yards as drift and race car builders desired them. My understanding is other manufacturers are now using electrically pumped hydraulic assisted power steering on other production vehicles.
Words can't describe how much I love driving my FR-S...
...y'know, torque dip notwithstanding. I'm saving up for some new headers though. That'll fix it.
jerry staring at me moving his head back and forth is one of the worst things ive ever seen
More like the hottest thing
For me, the nest experience i've had, but had no idea how to explain it, was the 1st gen Audi TT 225 Quattro.
The was the seat held me inside of it was so tight that i could feel the whole car. Until that point i've never experienced anything like it. It felt when the car lost and gained grip, it felt when the body was bending in curves, it felt everything. That's the most control i had in a car and the safest i've ever felt driving. And those street performance tyres, it was glued to the road. Like, wow.
Plus, antilag was also pretty cool. Really fun to launch it. Almost 300HP, but, damn, it was fun.
I have a 97 Fiesta MK4 and the amount of fun I have speeding to work every day I couldn't find it in any other modern car I've driven. It's no joke. Short wheelbase, cable accelerator, it's an oil eater that barely gives like 40 BHP, but it's a lot of fun.
Low centre of gravity, even weight distribution, predictable breakaway, good seating position, good pedal placement and feel.
Day 27 of asking for an Up to Speed on how Donut Media came to be
@TommyInnit 🅥 man wtf
Damn. Jeremy should have a spinoff series about Anatomy & Physiology. I learn more from him about the vestibular system than my professors!!!
Next week Jeremy will talk about the testicular system.
I like his dating tips too. The man really is a jack of all trades
Instead of the best, I'm just going to give mine: Ford Focus ST. I've had her 6 years next week and she puts a smile on my face every day.
Didnt get a chance to drive the focus ST..
I have ‘17 GT350, ‘20 Edge ST, ‘19 Fiesta ST. I’ve also test driven the raptor and decided against because it was colossal
My buddy has one. Any problems you’ve encountered? How about mods you’ve regretted? I work on it with him so would be nice. His is a 2017 it’s got cats but is straight piped otherwise, Cobb lower motor mount, and cob tuner.
@@1stock1not Only problem has been after the recall service job on the fuel tank, it drops revs on idle sometimes. I've had it stall once just sitting in a drive thru. Seems to come and go.
Biggest regret is not getting the tune sooner. Literally every performance upgrade can be enhanced with the tune. Intercooler, intake, exhaust, doesn't matter, you'll add at least another 10% improvement on top of your upgrade. But you guys probably already know that.
Only other regret I can think of is not cleaning off the dead lovebugs sooner. It ate away at the paint on my front bumper and now I'm probably going to have to get it repainted.
My recommendation is to clay bar the car if you haven't already. Took me 4 hours on Sunday to wash/claybar/wax/seal but it was worth it. Hasn't looked this nice since I bought it, and probably smoother than ever!
@@EricJCaraballoso yeah his has done the same. Ford kinda let him down having to “perform” the recall for the purge valve twice and it caused his to die occasionally as well. We’re gonna install a catch can intake side first, here soon as well as a do a BG platinum intake system cleaner. As well as it’s gonna get RS brakes and steel braided lines. He wants to do some kinda inner cooler that’s the same mass as the stock but with larger inlets for a higher flow rate.
I love the Focus ST and Fiesta ST, but for my money... GTI.
This video and Engineering Explained's video about why lighter cars are more fun helped me understand why my old 2008 pontiac solstice gxp was such a fun car to drive compared to my friends bmw z4. the z4 was more powerful, heavier and had more advanced features, but the gxp was smaller, lighter and simpler w less technology. But that gave it so much more responsivness and feedback which really made it a "drivers car". literally felt like driving a go cart! still remains one of my most favourite cars to drive
I got the Toyota 86; 255 RE-71R tires, clutch pack limited slip differential (crucial upgrade), custom coilovers and more, 2650lbs, it corners above 1g with 1.6g peaks, that's supercar statistics, so much fun to drive!
Best I've had so far from having several cars was my'91 Toyota MR2, I it was the best plus it's the greatest cruising car ever, also it does teach the driver a lot of things to learn if they be into racing.
If your going racing the MR2 can always handle 'MO POWA BABAY'
MR2's are very quick to tell you when you stuff up! love driving mine on b-roads.
Ive had my AW11 20years but tend to drive my V8 Holdens more . the MR2 is a great drivers car though
My 91 MR2 had no power steering or ABS brakes. That car taught me how to drive. No nonsense type of car. Snap oversteer, and lift off oversteer, so if you're gonna drive hard, you better be sure of what line you're taking and pray your alignment is good with a staggered set up. That car had a lot of heart and spirit. I miss it every day.
I love my aw11. Had it 20 years
@@mista2621 Used to be a V8 valiant man myself. last year gave my nephew my 1970 VG Ute which I had fitted with a 360,727 and 9in. Love that car but after getting my mr2 about 10 years ago the old Val just sat around most of the time and I know my nephew wanted her since he was a little kid. He's now 36 should should be old enough to handle her =)
this is one of those channels that you watch by mistake and you never stop watching. Keep it up!
It's the kind of channel you watch, because you want to know what some obscure car term means, and before you know it, you're a car person
Before buying my 370z, I got to drive a few others (all in manual). In this order I drove: a newer Mustang GT 5.0, a Honda S2k AP1, a new Toyota GT86, a Honda Si (the year before they used the fake vents) and finally, when I sat in the 370z, it was immediate love. It felt like home. And when I sold it late 2020 it was the worst decision I ever made in life. Thankfully the new Z is coming out soon, so it'll be a revival of my love for the Z.
If you don't mind me asking, how good was the 370? Was it worth the buy? Curious since the only vehicles I got are way older than me lol. An 85 chevy k10 and a 71 datsun 240z. The newer Z definitely caught my attention tho along with newer toyota 86 and brz.
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@@KD._ The 370z was the best car I had the honor to sit in. For cars that cost $40k and below the Z has been the best experience so far. People really sleep on the capabilities on the VHR (its engine) since it was over-engineered. I won't go into detail unless asked, but yea it's an amazing car and I miss it literally every day.
@@KD._ Man I want an old 240z. But they're all rusted out or overpriced.
@@Lofi.z34 i always hear mainly positive comments about the Zs (350/370) been wanting a new car so those were some options. I got lucky on my 240z, got it in great condition for like 5k, 6 years ago lol. Seeing how much people want for them now is absurd.
I had a 2003 Acura RSX Type S with a 6 speed manual transmission. This car was a blast to drive as it was very quick and nimble. It inspired confidence and made me feel like I was a better driver than maybe I really was. It wasn't great on the highway. It maxed out at 120 mph and the amount of road noise was excessive, but zipping around in an urban setting was unforgettable. More fun to drive than an E30 BMW and a hell of a lot less expensive.
I currently have a 2012 E92 M3. This car is amazing, yet somehow I still think of the RSX as being more fun. I suppose the RSX's small and light body combined with a zippy 200hp 4 cylinder engine mated to a smooth as silk 6 speed manual gearbox made it a special car to drive. Although the E92 is over twice as powerful and a great handling car in it's own right, its weigh subtracts from those advantages. I suppose it comes down to what you are looking for. The BMW, in my opinion, is the very best all around balance of power, handling, comfort and performance; in other words, it is the best balance of everything one would want in a car.
I love my 99' e46 328i! I have a completely New suspension and the rear subframe is reinforced. It has great feel.
"Jerry Vinci isn't real he can't hurt you"
*Jerry Vinci* : 0:46
Day 410 of asking James to do an Up to speed on his Dad
Nooooo why only 3 likes :(
I spent longer then Id like to admit searching for this lads comment
“when you hear something you don’t wanna hear, you just turn the radio up” LMAO no more true words have ever been spoken
I do you one better : When the check engine turns on, you just don't look at it and pretend everything's fine.
I'd love to see a Up to Speed on the Mitsubishi Starion / Chrysler Conquest
Those are grotesquely UNDERRATED CARS!
And generally all the early 4g64 platforms are the best of the bunch IMHO... OG Hondas 90s-06ish are rad also
Day 206 of asking James to do an uptospeed on himself
Im surprised he hasnt done one yet
I thought the meme was on his dad
Dedication
You mean up to speed on his dad aye?
My wife does not like to drive in my car,. She says its like driving a go-kart 😂
For that reason I refer to her car as “the taxi”
@Erik Gonzalez my car is a BMW e46ti compact M pack with 3.0 m54b30 swap, schrick, Supersprint, m3 undercarriage with KW suspension etc, a drivers car 🤣 it really drives amazing!
My wifes car is a Bmw E90 318 with comfort suspension… Nice for bumpy roads (which we dont have in the Netherlands 🙈)
If I had to pin down some direct mechanical features that help make a car a "driver's car" it would be: High revving naturally aspirated engine that builds power all the way to redline, manual, hydraulic steering, rear-wheel drive (with some front wheel and AWD exceptions), small sedan or roadster chassis, the interior is physical feedback oriented (essentially almost nothing operated through the infotainment, just buttons), enough horsepower to be fun, but not so much you can't hear the engine without seriously breaking the law (think max end of this being a Ferrari 360 Modena). Those are all the things I can think of at the moment, but if any of you want to add on, put some comments below.
Yeah that's a promising recipe for a fun car, only lacking 1 thing :
Relatively lightweight
And if possible minimum 6 cylinders engine
E46 m3, e90 m3, w204 c63, cayman gt4
My RSX and Cayman pass your test 😁
Honda’s type r’s and si’s meet those things you mentioned, except it is FWD
nothing wrong with ripping a big boost motor up and down the streets. You can have power curves that pull to redline there too. I was an N/A evangelist til I got my n54
I have an 08 mustang, and a 00 Mr2 Spyder. The Spyder feels like a street legal go-kart, and it is so much fun to drive. You can feel everything. My Mustang is automatic and uh....a cruising option when I feel lazy from a manual haha.
I have driven many, many different cars. I spent some time thinking about why some were more fun or a "driver's car." And what I noticed is the ones that I typically like to drive the most are small, nimble cars, because driving "fast" is relative. Driving an AMG Merc 100 mph is nothing. But driving a small hatchback 100 mph is FUN. Some cars that I love are; GTI, 86, MX5, Focus/Fiesta ST. Not only are all of these super fun to drive, but they happen to be inexpensive too.
My favorite driver's car has always been the McLaren F1. I've never driven one or even seen one in person but I love the philosophy behind it and it remains the fastest n/a production car to this day.
I'd disagree that it's a drivers car. Where are you really going to drive that? As a driver I'd rather drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow. Until you get to the track there is no where to experience the actual drive of a McLaren other than a seconds long burst of speed getting on to a highway. On public roads you'll never experience what makes that car great, to do that you need to go to the track.... and now you have a track car not a drivers car.
@@s.willis8426 it's not all about speed
@@s.willis8426 It's a dream car to be fair lol. But that's a fair point about sports cars in general. Your point doesn't seem to apply to the McLaren specifically. While I do love driving on track, a good spirited drive is good for the soul. Lots of twisty roads here in GA.
@@jellofuel Of course this is all just my opinion but yeah definitely not exclusive to the McLaren, pretty much any 180+ mph car in general. It all goes back to a philosophy of it's more fun to take a car to 90% of it's capabilities than to 20% even if that means the 2 cars are traveling at the same speed, the more power and speed the car is capable of the less likely you can drive it at 90% without exceeding the speed limits by license losing car impounding amounts.
jesus donut, don't change the titles ever so often, they're actually kinda catchy ngl
Why is a 300zx the thumbnail 💔😭
Check the title again
Mine is a ‘87 VW Golf GTI with a 16v 1.8L NA I have had since I was 13. Owned it 20 years now. Still a blast to drive
As a note. 6:27 the rf Miata you used to explain that coups weigh more than convertibles, actually weighs more than the soft top Miata.
I love my mini :) fun and responsive, even though it's not the fastest.
Responsive enough for ropes and a broom to work. ruclips.net/video/dNn4YFvQLMI/видео.html