@@horizonhobby I'm by no means a shill of any kind but I bought a Senton blx last year with a faulty ESC and the customer service was so easy to deal with and responded super fast, i got my new esc super quick too. So thanks for being awesome about your customer service.
OTOH, If you want to see a CVT …break down, just drive it, it’ll self destruct in no time, they were clearly designed by Dr. Heinz Doofenschmirtz, as they have an internal Self Destruct button… “BEHOLD!!! THE TRANSMISS-INATOR!”
Same here! I’ve a couple friends who are huge into their cars, don’t get me wrong I love mine too, but they understand the more complex stuff way better than me. I often find myself asking questions like the title of this video, and then donut come out and answer these questions. Some of their videos mean that I can jump into a conversation with these mates and am able to contribute and sometimes even explain something to them! Love it, great stuff from DM.
Everyone knows that auto makers have watched the success of The Fast and the Furious's 100 speed transmissions and have slowly used their R&D to copy them. It takes a lot of engineering hours to go from a 5 speed to a 8 speed; we will be living in 2050 and still only be at 30 speeds. By them F&F will probably be using 200 speed transmissions
By 2050, unless in 20 years or so regulations are relaxed to allow a small amount of gas powered cars, we wont even HAVE transmissions anymore if the trend of EVs stays the same.
My 22 F-150 is 2WD and has a 5.0 engine with a 3.31 rear end. I have it tuned so cylinder deactivation is turned off. I just took it to visit my parents and did 65mph for 3.5 hours. It turns 1500 rpms and got me 27.2mpg. Needless to say, I am super impressed with this truck and 10 speed transmission.
Please, I agree with Jeremiah that an episode on the Koenigsegg Light Speed Transmission would be awesome. Also, another one on Koenigsegg Direct Drive ("no gears"). Engineering Explained has covered both, and even others, like Untangled (very first video explaining Koenigsegg LST), but the Donut touch would be refreshing. I would also love an episode on the forgotten gear systems from the past, and in transmissions with uncommon shifter patterns, like the three-on-the-tree manual, the universal "dog leg" pattern for 3-speed manuals (floor or column mounted) and the rare examples that didn't follow it, the "dog leg" pattern itself, outboard shifters, why the GT40 is right hand drive and shifter is to the right, old automatic transmission patterns ("P, N, D, L, R"; instead of "P, R, N, D, L"), etcetera. Please note that I know the answer to all of these things, no need to comment on me, but I haven't seen a video compilation of all of these, and Donut making one in the style we all know and love, would be awesome. Thanks in advance, greetings from Pergamino, Argentina 🇦🇷
Would love to see some dual clutch transmission stuff too. DSGs are interesting.
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Makes me proud to be a ZF employee working on the 8HP transmission :) , but our transmission with 5 clutches can also shift gears by opening one clutch and closing another, transferring all the torque from the engine during shifting, so the car in continuously accelerating.
What exactly is the difference between the 8HP50 and 8HP90? I know the 90 is used in the hellcat, is it just a more beefed up version of the 50 and others?
Rc hobby has exploded since the middle half of last year!! Especially the drift rc cars. Love seeing bigger ytbers give them love and the sponsorship is a cherry on top
Didn't even know about them until now, I am not surprised though. Maybe they will do some videos on it. Hell that would get me into it, and I honestly think RC gas cars are probably gonna stick around much longer than full size gas cars will. (sucks, but it's inevitable)
i love this channel, i love B2B. i found donut on the up to speed episode on the civic and felt the joy and emotion you guys have for accomplishing so much. growing up my step dad worked at one of the oldest garages in town. i learned a bit about body, internals, paint, and i got really good at sweeping up the shop whenever the day was over. he would come home and share his excitement about working on a new or different kind of car and being amazed at the innovation some companies put on the road. tragically, he was also abusive, alcoholic, and whenever i was in the garage with him he generally made it an unpleasant experience due to his behavior. that man is long out of my life and im beginning to see the splendor and amazement of his passion in cars underneath all the addiction and abuse. i never knew anything about how transmissions worked but you make it so easy to understand and youre also not blasting hot booze breath in my face about it. i drive trucks and im trying to get into my companies repair shop on my off time. im beginning to enjoy tinkering with things, especially on my own 350z im trying to put back together but no space or tools keeps me from utilizing the knowledge i get from youtube outside of super basic things. sure would be cool to replace or fix the transmission myself and feel proud of it rippin down the street when its done. this is great.
At an engine speed of 1300 rpm going through a 0.5:1 sixth gear, if the rear wheels are spinning at 800 rpm then the reduction in that particular differential is 3.25:1 (or 1:3.25 if you want to be technical.) 1300 X 2 = 2600 2600/800 = 3.25
This video is so informative yet so fun to watch. The jokes, the animation and everything is so streamlined. I love this channel. Keep up the content!!
So stoked. As sponsor I can really get behind. Im an rc nut, totally addicted to making little trucks fast a/f. Glad arrma on board. Anything at horizon hobbies is going to be awesome. A main has killer shipping too.
The differential ratio (somewhere about 3.3 to 4.15) reduces engine speed more than the 6th gear multiplies it, so the wheels spin less than the engine anyway
yup, that's the reason why when people say if you have a 1:1 gear ratio (like 5th gear in some cars) the engine has the same speed as the wheels--wrong because the differential changes the ratio too
There once was an infinity gear that was a geared sphere that rode on a plate set and how it changed the ratio was to change angle where they met and thus changed the distance of the circumference the plate traveled along... wonderfully more durable than cvt BUT insanely expensive to machine out, so it was left to the bin.
Koenigsegg direct drive has nothing to do with it, it doesn't change gearing, it's just one gear with electric motor compensating the lower end of the ICE. Cool and clever, but the gear remain the same.
I had a ZF8 for 4 years in my BMW M235 and tuned that transmission. It’s such a fantastic transmission and actually brings “fun” into autos with its characteristics. I didn’t think an auto could be fun and comfortable until I drove that car. I moved back to a 6 Speed manual for my M2 Competition because I knew it would likely be the last new car I would buy in manual before they’re extinct. I love rowing my own gears and I’m happy I did what I did….but man do I also miss that ZF8 at times.
I used to own an e90 m3 with dct. And it was my favorite transmission. Everyone told me it was bad and I should have gotten a mnaual. Later I traded it for a 6mt Camaro SS 1le. I missed the dct whether on track, autocross, hills or daily driving. I never liked the manual. It just always felt like a hinderance. I had a chance to drive a 6mt e92 m3 and a 10 speed zl1 and even with the chassis and engines swapped I still preferred the paddle shift. The modern automatic(including dcts) are so responsive and fun they allow you to experience the car in a way you just can't in a manual.
Knowing more detail of the differences between parallel twins, inline triples and inline 4's (crossplane and regular firing) as well as v4's, v-twins and boxers, transverse v-twins, inline 6's... Motorcycle engine configurations are infinitely interesting and they all do different things and have different pros and cons
Jeremiah as a host is killing it more with every episode and I love it for you man, keep up the great work! Let’s see the Koenigsegg’s transmission video!
I love how you guys not only teach us new things about automobiles every week, but also Jeremiahs superpower in making me laugh through every bit he adds to the story 😂 and the editing too ofcourse !!
Wheres the been Development 8s speed run car???? We know all about it mostly please release it this summer!!! Dieing for the 1/7th scale on road cars to have a version 2!!! 100mph plus 7s rtr !! Sorry to blow the whistle
One of the need for speeds you could swap , 5spds, 6spds, 7 and 9s I think. It was cool seeing how some made your 0-60 quicker, but lost top speed, and vice versa
It's pretty cool how seeing how much transmissions have changed recently. My car has the first 8 speed auto, and that was built in 2008. 10 years prior, Lexus still had 4 speeds in their performance cars. Now 8-10 speeds are the norm.
The real question is why do car manufactures keep copying each other? Rarely anything actually stands out in the new car market almost everything just looks the same lol
Brands do market analysis and they build cars based on that. And naturally the market is the same for everyone, so they will build similar cars because they all come to the same conclusion which type of cars will sell. But i think many brands have at least one "cool" car. Like the Supra for Toyota and the R8 for Audi. It is the same with Smartphones, TVs etc.
The same reason you'd rather follow someone elses cooking recipe instead of making up everything you'd ever cook from scratch. The same reason Burger King waited for McDonalds to spend tens of millions on researching the perfect placement of their franchise locations and then just built their own restaurant across the street from them. If someone else has done the R&D, why would you spend time and money doing your own?
I feel like the more Jeremiah mentions motorcycle content the more I feel like I need that in my life When he was recording in his garage I was just looking at the bikes in the back
So much bike tech to look at: lean sensitive traction control and abs, anti wheelie, dynamic self adjusting suspension, ride modes, variable throttle bodies, quick shifters, blippers and so on. All available on off the shelf bikes...then let’s go MotoGP. Nice work Donut. Keep it coming.
The 1993-97 cars had the Borg-Warner and the 1998-02 had the Tremec. Love the channel, love the content (especially the 4th gen stuff 😉) and you guys are the bee's knees 👍
I think donut should bring back Vs. but with two hosts. one fughting for each side, no definitive answer. I spend most my time debating my friends on which car would be best for what and what brands r better and what criteria u can use to make that a legitimate argument.
I in fact will miss the transmissions even more than the engines. I'm up for the electric future, but I just love manual transmissions. In any case you can program your favourite car torque curve into an electric motor, make it feel just like the car you plotted it from (even the cool vibrations), and attach it to any transmission you want. I understand gas engines have soul and electric motors don't, but transmissions are spirit itself
Yeah, I don't see why a person couldn't replace an engine with an electric motor and keep the rest of the drive train in-tact. I'm rather surprised this isn't far more common.
@@QarthCEO It is kinda surprising that more people dont do it since it's actually been done. ruclips.net/video/TIZ5IEWk2iM/видео.html It's honestly such a good idea, you get all the benefits of an electric motor, while still being able to drive the way you like and if anything it would only make a car handle better by lowering the CG.
@@larsspeelman3106 I know, what I mean is that here people who drive manuals aren't really considered elitists. Most of us can drive manual cars here, even non-enthusiasts
Just learned to drive manual and damn is it fun. Don't own a car yet I just enjoy your content and learn everything I know about cars from your videos mostly. Best cartube channel.
Honestly, I feel/felt like the 6-speed (3 underdrive, 1 direct, and 2 overdrive gears?) was the best setup. But zf-8 has done wonders for brands like Chrysler and really started this ridiculous multi-speed transmission war, lol. :)
@@angrysocialjusticewarrior perhaps, but let's hope modern cars don't need 18 forward speeds just to get down the street, lol. That said, the torque multiplication and what work they do for logger trucks, etc. is something else for sure. :)
17:17 That's not true, electric motors definitely still have power curves. In general, the power is reduced as the speed increases. In most EVs, the power is somewhat reduced at speeds >60mph. Some like the Porche Taycan have 2-speed gearboxes to mitigate this, while others like Tesla Plaid or Lucid Air have developed motors with better power at higher speeds.
I love seeing the sponsorship from Arrma. Sometimes real car stuff is too expensive, so my alternative is RC Cars. I'm glad you guys are showing them to more viewers
I still think the Nuvinci (now renamed) hemispherical transmission is the superior design above all others. A 50:1 to 1:50 ratio that is selectable, simple, reliable...the list is long. I've put thousands of miles on one on my motorized bike and it has blown my mind in all the categories.
It has low efficiency compared to geared systems, and it has a low ratio spread in CVT configuration. In IVT configuration it gets a wide ratio spread but even worse efficiency due to power recirculation.
Good video on gearing. I used to wonder how the ZF 8 had so many gears and shifted like it did. Now I’ll have to do more research on this topic. Thank you Jerry and Donut Media.
I would love to see you guys do a breakdown on the TC-SST used in the Evo X MR and Ralliart. It’s a unique transmission used in a very few number of cars and has a great community backing it.
6 million subs already? I remember when you guys hit 1M and Pumphrey cried 😄 I'd like to see you talk about the new Tremec TKX transmission, and why it's an upgrade from the outgoing TKO, and what the wizardry is that makes it shift smoother with higher revs. THEN compare the TKX to the T56 and the T56 magnum. 💪
Please do more rc stuff, tamiya makes very fun kits to build and have tons of heritage and very detailed licensed bodies you paint yourself. Rc drifting is a big trend that started with awd cars but has transitioned to rwd with gyros and the ability to build your dream jdm drift car without drift tax. A comparison of different trucks with bashing to see what breaks first, or try to set a world record for a jump. Tons and tons of possibilitites and I think this audience would enjoy it from donut’s perspective
Differential ratio reduces wheel speed relative to transmission final ratio. Total wheel speed includes all ratios multiplied through the drive train back to the engine RPM.
I’d like to see a study on this. I think it would have more to do with load on the motor than rpm but a gearbox would have to help efficiency a little? Right? I’m sure it will become a thing if it makes range longer.
@@2wheelhoon813 I've experienced one. That's why I can say it. They are a good transmission thus far. Not sure if you've ever experienced an automatic, but the modern automatics are becoming quite good.
@@emerycottle3166 what fucking part of I owned one don't you understand. I had the truck for like 6 months. 2019 5.0 10 speed 2wd. The only thing it was good for was wide open throttle or towing. Everything else it was junk. Ispecially when it was cold. Slip in and out of gear. At part throttle it would wind the engine out to like 3500 rpm at times than randomly slam into 3rd gear. Usually it would bark the tires or send you flying into the car Infront of you. In the snow no matter what I did I couldn't get rid of traction control or abs. As soon as the tires spun the truck flipped shit. It would go to a false neutral (clutches open computer controlled) until the wheels slowed back down. The biggest problem with that is the wheel speed decides when the transmission goes back into gear. Not rpm. So when your on the throttle and it suddenly falls out of gear unexpectedly the engine revs up. When the wheel spin stops the transmission goes back into gear before the rpms come down. It feel like your dumping the clutch in a standard trans car when it does it. One time it went back into gear on a dry part of the road and slammed so hard y glovebox came down. The 10 speeds are garbage. Way to meany variables for an inanimate object to handle. It has to take into account all sorts of parameters. Intake air temp. Oil temp. Trans temp. Ambient temp. Coolant temp. Rpm. Throttle position. Current gear. Wheel speed. Altitude. Ethonal content. The list goes on. A computer controlled automatic is incredibly complicated to engineer. It's not fords fault. But someone should have stood up and said no. We need to just stick with the 6 speed. Your not gaining anything in real world conditions. Just a PR stunt aimed at towing capabilities that are to large for a light half ton. And 0-60 times. It's nonsense. If you ever own one for yourself you WILL regret it unless you are completely ignorent to major noises and expensive repairs after 5 years
@@2wheelhoon813 I had good experience with my expedition and our work force ford rangers...except for one that makes a clunk noise when u put into neutral...
@Emery Cottle mines been great since day one. 50k on mine so far been FBO, Cammed since 15k miles with hundreds of foot brake launches and 8k RPM shifts. It's holding really well. Some people just have shit luck I guess
Two thumbs up. Literally I was gonna ask if you can talk about the Koenigsegg LST... and just then, a mere 10 seconds later, you brought it up! Wooo EDIT: YES PLEASE DO A WHOLE EPISODE ON IT!
just played Dirt5 for the first time this weekend! now my cars are sponsored by Donut and y'all's previous sponsors. Love you guys, and congrats on 6m subs!
No way! You guys got sponsored by ARRMA?! That is awesome! I’m so happy the rc car industry has made it to your channel
Traxxas next
yessir im soo hapy for them
right, i had to do a double take and make sure i was still on the right channel.
Us TOO :D
@@horizonhobby I'm by no means a shill of any kind but I bought a Senton blx last year with a faulty ESC and the customer service was so easy to deal with and responded super fast, i got my new esc super quick too. So thanks for being awesome about your customer service.
I'd love to see a full breakdown of that Koenigsegg transmission! Do it :)
Engineering Explained has got you covered
ruclips.net/video/MSxQtHOfljE/видео.html
+1
Biggest thing to remember is it isn’t a transmission and has no “gears”.
Yes i agree
OTOH, If you want to see a CVT …break down, just drive it, it’ll self destruct in no time, they were clearly designed by Dr. Heinz Doofenschmirtz, as they have an internal Self Destruct button…
“BEHOLD!!! THE TRANSMISS-INATOR!”
One thing I've always adored about this channel is how often times, their content is legitimate questions me and friends ponder about.
Same here!
I’ve a couple friends who are huge into their cars, don’t get me wrong I love mine too, but they understand the more complex stuff way better than me.
I often find myself asking questions like the title of this video, and then donut come out and answer these questions. Some of their videos mean that I can jump into a conversation with these mates and am able to contribute and sometimes even explain something to them!
Love it, great stuff from DM.
Everyone knows that auto makers have watched the success of The Fast and the Furious's 100 speed transmissions and have slowly used their R&D to copy them. It takes a lot of engineering hours to go from a 5 speed to a 8 speed; we will be living in 2050 and still only be at 30 speeds. By them F&F will probably be using 200 speed transmissions
🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭
By 2050, unless in 20 years or so regulations are relaxed to allow a small amount of gas powered cars, we wont even HAVE transmissions anymore if the trend of EVs stays the same.
this guy knows
I believe Tom Cruise in Days Of Thunder pioneered this technology before F&F.
@@geoffmooregm Hell yes
A) id love to see more bike stuff
B) id also love to see a donut media battle to see who’s the best driver/fastest shifter out of the group
Obviously Aaron, he does formula drift.
My 22 F-150 is 2WD and has a 5.0 engine with a 3.31 rear end. I have it tuned so cylinder deactivation is turned off. I just took it to visit my parents and did 65mph for 3.5 hours. It turns 1500 rpms and got me 27.2mpg. Needless to say, I am super impressed with this truck and 10 speed transmission.
I'd definitely like to see you go over the Lightspeed transmission, or even 'Segg's Direct Drive from the Regera
Yeah, me too
Yessir
Me three
Absolutely!
Yep same. Obsessed with Koenigsegg. Engineering marvel and I want to know it all!
Please, I agree with Jeremiah that an episode on the Koenigsegg Light Speed Transmission would be awesome. Also, another one on Koenigsegg Direct Drive ("no gears"). Engineering Explained has covered both, and even others, like Untangled (very first video explaining Koenigsegg LST), but the Donut touch would be refreshing.
I would also love an episode on the forgotten gear systems from the past, and in transmissions with uncommon shifter patterns, like the three-on-the-tree manual, the universal "dog leg" pattern for 3-speed manuals (floor or column mounted) and the rare examples that didn't follow it, the "dog leg" pattern itself, outboard shifters, why the GT40 is right hand drive and shifter is to the right, old automatic transmission patterns ("P, N, D, L, R"; instead of "P, R, N, D, L"), etcetera. Please note that I know the answer to all of these things, no need to comment on me, but I haven't seen a video compilation of all of these, and Donut making one in the style we all know and love, would be awesome.
Thanks in advance, greetings from Pergamino, Argentina 🇦🇷
good ideas, wish this comment was liked more
Yesss
We're going full circle. CVT's are coming back.
Bump!!
Would love to see some dual clutch transmission stuff too. DSGs are interesting.
Makes me proud to be a ZF employee working on the 8HP transmission :) , but our transmission with 5 clutches can also shift gears by opening one clutch and closing another, transferring all the torque from the engine during shifting, so the car in continuously accelerating.
What exactly is the difference between the 8HP50 and 8HP90? I know the 90 is used in the hellcat, is it just a more beefed up version of the 50 and others?
Man I hope y’all bring a 10 speed auto into Mopars lol
Nothing beats a 3 and 4 speed trans
@@bagged1998 literally the 10 speeds do that currently
@@bagged1998 lol yeah sure....
never in my two years of watching Donut would i have expected Arrma sponsoring them. im so happy to see the RC hobby being known to all through Donut
Love RC
Rc hobby has exploded since the middle half of last year!! Especially the drift rc cars. Love seeing bigger ytbers give them love and the sponsorship is a cherry on top
Didn't even know about them until now, I am not surprised though. Maybe they will do some videos on it. Hell that would get me into it, and I honestly think RC gas cars are probably gonna stick around much longer than full size gas cars will. (sucks, but it's inevitable)
@@Niro_sounds i know that one month ago.
@@LilScotty10 hi jackson S.
i love this channel, i love B2B. i found donut on the up to speed episode on the civic and felt the joy and emotion you guys have for accomplishing so much. growing up my step dad worked at one of the oldest garages in town. i learned a bit about body, internals, paint, and i got really good at sweeping up the shop whenever the day was over. he would come home and share his excitement about working on a new or different kind of car and being amazed at the innovation some companies put on the road. tragically, he was also abusive, alcoholic, and whenever i was in the garage with him he generally made it an unpleasant experience due to his behavior. that man is long out of my life and im beginning to see the splendor and amazement of his passion in cars underneath all the addiction and abuse. i never knew anything about how transmissions worked but you make it so easy to understand and youre also not blasting hot booze breath in my face about it. i drive trucks and im trying to get into my companies repair shop on my off time. im beginning to enjoy tinkering with things, especially on my own 350z im trying to put back together but no space or tools keeps me from utilizing the knowledge i get from youtube outside of super basic things. sure would be cool to replace or fix the transmission myself and feel proud of it rippin down the street when its done. this is great.
I think I speak for everyone when I say we love you, Jere-bear! And we'd love to see more motorcycle content!
8:10 The answer is rear differential. It has a fixed gearing of either 3.23:1 or 2.73:1 depending on what model it is.
Math works out to 3.23 ratio
Now I feel stupid for thinking a pathetic answer of "Final Drive Ratio of differential"
It has nothing to do with gear ratio...it's a Motec exhaust 😂
At an engine speed of 1300 rpm going through a 0.5:1 sixth gear, if the rear wheels are spinning at 800 rpm then the reduction in that particular differential is 3.25:1 (or 1:3.25 if you want to be technical.)
1300 X 2 = 2600
2600/800 = 3.25
"How's the posi Trac rear end on a Plymouth work"? "It just does"... Yep
This video is so informative yet so fun to watch. The jokes, the animation and everything is so streamlined. I love this channel. Keep up the content!!
So stoked. As sponsor I can really get behind. Im an rc nut, totally addicted to making little trucks fast a/f. Glad arrma on board. Anything at horizon hobbies is going to be awesome. A main has killer shipping too.
Hi Ryan Underhill. How are you today?
The differential ratio (somewhere about 3.3 to 4.15) reduces engine speed more than the 6th gear multiplies it, so the wheels spin less than the engine anyway
yup, that's the reason why when people say if you have a 1:1 gear ratio (like 5th gear in some cars) the engine has the same speed as the wheels--wrong because the differential changes the ratio too
And the winning answer is....
@@steve0t107 I’ll do the drum roll 🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁
I know im late but i just wanna say that i knew this
Most channels with a 20 minute video feels like 30 minutes. But this channel, a 20 minute video feels like 5 minutes.
Amazing work.
There once was an infinity gear that was a geared sphere that rode on a plate set and how it changed the ratio was to change angle where they met and thus changed the distance of the circumference the plate traveled along... wonderfully more durable than cvt BUT insanely expensive to machine out, so it was left to the bin.
That sounds interesting af
The Cummins dodge trucks have a centrifugal overdrive. The engine just sits at 2k rpm and the speed just keeps going up.
Laughs in Koenigsegg
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Koenigsegg direct drive has nothing to do with it, it doesn't change gearing, it's just one gear with electric motor compensating the lower end of the ICE.
Cool and clever, but the gear remain the same.
You can always see Jeremiah's love for his work coming through his videos, just his authentic way of expression!
These guys are what the American Top Gear should have been. They never fail to let you laugh and learn 😄
if only they had the same budget...
I had a ZF8 for 4 years in my BMW M235 and tuned that transmission. It’s such a fantastic transmission and actually brings “fun” into autos with its characteristics. I didn’t think an auto could be fun and comfortable until I drove that car.
I moved back to a 6 Speed manual for my M2 Competition because I knew it would likely be the last new car I would buy in manual before they’re extinct. I love rowing my own gears and I’m happy I did what I did….but man do I also miss that ZF8 at times.
Now I kinda wanna drop one in my Honda. I know it'll be some work to make it work, but I still wanna
@@jessiepoofrae6607 Hope you have a longitudinally mounted rwd Honda. If you do best of luck. If it's a fwd no chance.
Have zf8 in my charger. Agree it is most fun i’ve had or best “feel” i’ve had from an auto trans
I used to own an e90 m3 with dct. And it was my favorite transmission. Everyone told me it was bad and I should have gotten a mnaual. Later I traded it for a 6mt Camaro SS 1le. I missed the dct whether on track, autocross, hills or daily driving. I never liked the manual. It just always felt like a hinderance. I had a chance to drive a 6mt e92 m3 and a 10 speed zl1 and even with the chassis and engines swapped I still preferred the paddle shift. The modern automatic(including dcts) are so responsive and fun they allow you to experience the car in a way you just can't in a manual.
Zf8 in my 2014 a4, and it doesn't shift very well in the cold winter. Hangs too long in a gear before up shifting.
Jeremiah, great content as usual! I'd like to see the differences in a parallel twin motorcycle engine vs others... Pros and cons etc
: Even in just parallel twins, you have the differance between 180º, 270º amd 360º cranks, along with 2 cycle and 4 cycle.
Knowing more detail of the differences between parallel twins, inline triples and inline 4's (crossplane and regular firing) as well as v4's, v-twins and boxers, transverse v-twins, inline 6's... Motorcycle engine configurations are infinitely interesting and they all do different things and have different pros and cons
@@Jouster120 : One configuration that I think possable, that I have never seen is a common crank pin 120º V-6 in a Honda Goldwing type bike.
I too would love to see Jeremiah
Jeremiah as a host is killing it more with every episode and I love it for you man, keep up the great work! Let’s see the Koenigsegg’s transmission video!
I love how you guys not only teach us new things about automobiles every week, but also Jeremiahs superpower in making me laugh through every bit he adds to the story 😂 and the editing too ofcourse !!
Who ever does the animation for the explanation of this show, thank you. They make the explanation truly understandable.
I like how the subtitle of the ad is talking about skill share
Came here for the Arrma spot, know more about gears than I ever thought possible now. Such a great video.
Wheres the been Development 8s speed run car???? We know all about it mostly please release it this summer!!! Dieing for the 1/7th scale on road cars to have a version 2!!! 100mph plus 7s rtr !! Sorry to blow the whistle
One of the need for speeds you could swap , 5spds, 6spds, 7 and 9s I think.
It was cool seeing how some made your 0-60 quicker, but lost top speed, and vice versa
You can do that on Forza Horizon 5 now
I just love how you present so much information to be easily comprehended by the regular people!!! Thank you!!
It's pretty cool how seeing how much transmissions have changed recently. My car has the first 8 speed auto, and that was built in 2008. 10 years prior, Lexus still had 4 speeds in their performance cars. Now 8-10 speeds are the norm.
Maannn I love the ISF bro 🥵❤️
The real question is why do car manufactures keep copying each other? Rarely anything actually stands out in the new car market almost everything just looks the same lol
It’s a Save choice, easier to sell and do the marketing for
Brands do market analysis and they build cars based on that. And naturally the market is the same for everyone, so they will build similar cars because they all come to the same conclusion which type of cars will sell.
But i think many brands have at least one "cool" car. Like the Supra for Toyota and the R8 for Audi. It is the same with Smartphones, TVs etc.
Because it's super risky and expensive to try something different
@@affectedrl5327 Audi has more then just the r8
The same reason you'd rather follow someone elses cooking recipe instead of making up everything you'd ever cook from scratch. The same reason Burger King waited for McDonalds to spend tens of millions on researching the perfect placement of their franchise locations and then just built their own restaurant across the street from them.
If someone else has done the R&D, why would you spend time and money doing your own?
Thanks!
I feel like the more Jeremiah mentions motorcycle content the more I feel like I need that in my life
When he was recording in his garage I was just looking at the bikes in the back
So much bike tech to look at: lean sensitive traction control and abs, anti wheelie, dynamic self adjusting suspension, ride modes, variable throttle bodies, quick shifters, blippers and so on. All available on off the shelf bikes...then let’s go MotoGP.
Nice work Donut. Keep it coming.
I'm currently working in zfs 8hp division I just love seeing them built the speed at which we produce them is astonishing
im a moto boi and i would love more bike content but i do still love learning about anything mechanic related from yall
Great sponsor I'm glad rc company's see the value of advertising on car channels
The 1993-97 cars had the Borg-Warner and the 1998-02 had the Tremec. Love the channel, love the content (especially the 4th gen stuff 😉) and you guys are the bee's knees 👍
Love that 70's-90's vibe I always get from this show.
The best time for entertainment.
And YES PLEASE more on the Koenigsegg!
I think donut should bring back Vs. but with two hosts. one fughting for each side, no definitive answer. I spend most my time debating my friends on which car would be best for what and what brands r better and what criteria u can use to make that a legitimate argument.
this sounds like a good idea, i'm all for this
This seems like a way to trigger certain fanboys 😂😂
sounds like a good way to start fanboy wars In the comment section, I bet they'd be even more entertaining to read 😂
@@Lambullghini why those sexy bots are everywhere GHOST?
@@purwantiallan5089 I don't know, this has been going on for quite some time now. I see them almost everywhere
You got to take into effect the rear diff ratio. It is usually a reduction so the overdrive may be null and void
I in fact will miss the transmissions even more than the engines. I'm up for the electric future, but I just love manual transmissions. In any case you can program your favourite car torque curve into an electric motor, make it feel just like the car you plotted it from (even the cool vibrations), and attach it to any transmission you want. I understand gas engines have soul and electric motors don't, but transmissions are spirit itself
I almost cried
Yeah, I don't see why a person couldn't replace an engine with an electric motor and keep the rest of the drive train in-tact. I'm rather surprised this isn't far more common.
Agreed!
@@QarthCEO It is kinda surprising that more people dont do it since it's actually been done. ruclips.net/video/TIZ5IEWk2iM/видео.html
It's honestly such a good idea, you get all the benefits of an electric motor, while still being able to drive the way you like and if anything it would only make a car handle better by lowering the CG.
EV's use torque converters
6 million subscribers should be enough of a reason to do an Up To Speed on Donut Media
This is actually a really good explanation, this should be part of every drivers Ed class.
Regardless of how many gears, I love to select and shift my own gears. Save the manuals!
Manual elitist jerks
@@TechDove I prefer paddle shifters
@@TechDove have you ever heard of a place called... uhm... Europe?
@@matteocristini6221 well thats changing fast
@@larsspeelman3106 I know, what I mean is that here people who drive manuals aren't really considered elitists. Most of us can drive manual cars here, even non-enthusiasts
Great sponsorship ARMA is awesome!
Just learned to drive manual and damn is it fun. Don't own a car yet I just enjoy your content and learn everything I know about cars from your videos mostly. Best cartube channel.
Honestly, I feel/felt like the 6-speed (3 underdrive, 1 direct, and 2 overdrive gears?) was the best setup. But zf-8 has done wonders for brands like Chrysler and really started this ridiculous multi-speed transmission war, lol. :)
Zf is still nothing compared to the all mighty Eaton Fuller transmission that comes with a whopping 18 gears.
@@angrysocialjusticewarrior perhaps, but let's hope modern cars don't need 18 forward speeds just to get down the street, lol. That said, the torque multiplication and what work they do for logger trucks, etc. is something else for sure. :)
@@Kingswood7189 If cars ever come to that point, they would better off using CVT. If only CVTs can be used for heavy-duty applications...
@@dbclass4075 ecvts like the rav4 hybrid would be amazing in heavy duty applications.
@@dbclass4075 there's cvts holding up to 600+ hp in tractors right now.
The internal combustion V8 with a manual transmission will stay close to our hearts. Forever! Plus, great thing to get sponsored by ARRMA!!
knock off traxas
NA V12 is where it’s at my guy
@@PG-20 all engines above the v8 is great. V8 is close to my heart!
I love the V8. Especially when it sounds angry.
A snap shot of your face shifting through the gears with the flames in the back should totally be a shirt!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I cried man... I cried
i am so exited you guys are doing a vid regarding RC's. hope you guys get some more of this content out, it is car related!!!
The answer is straight forward, we all grew up watching top gear and the best way to be in top gear is to have more gears lol.
LOL TOOOP GEAr BABBY. On a side note just check out your channel really good stuff, your channel is so under rated subscribed.
@@jiya6531 thanks a lot appreciate
17:17 That's not true, electric motors definitely still have power curves. In general, the power is reduced as the speed increases. In most EVs, the power is somewhat reduced at speeds >60mph. Some like the Porche Taycan have 2-speed gearboxes to mitigate this, while others like Tesla Plaid or Lucid Air have developed motors with better power at higher speeds.
The Pert Plus reference was hilarious. Yes you have viewer's that old 🤣
I love seeing the sponsorship from Arrma. Sometimes real car stuff is too expensive, so my alternative is RC Cars. I'm glad you guys are showing them to more viewers
Bro i dropped 2.5k in to my RC... you could literally have a driftable e36 for that
@@YeeThirty thats a fact, but you can't launch that beamer 40 feet in the air with no damage 😂
Arma : designed fast designed tough
Traxxas : hold my beer sonny!
I still think the Nuvinci (now renamed) hemispherical transmission is the superior design above all others. A 50:1 to 1:50 ratio that is selectable, simple, reliable...the list is long. I've put thousands of miles on one on my motorized bike and it has blown my mind in all the categories.
It has low efficiency compared to geared systems, and it has a low ratio spread in CVT configuration. In IVT configuration it gets a wide ratio spread but even worse efficiency due to power recirculation.
@@Kyriaeus I've looked into it, perhaps I've not noticed the inefficiency issues due to the motor.
Low efficiency, inability to transmit high torque and intense heating at high RPMs.
This is why cvt/ivt are mostly on mopeds and scooters.
I always love any kind of motorcycle content from you guys!
Watching this with subs on was an experience. The script very definitely changed between when they prepped the video and when they filmed lol.
Nice video! I'm interested on a breakdown of the Light Speed transmission. Get on it, Jeremiah!
Good video on gearing. I used to wonder how the ZF 8 had so many gears and shifted like it did. Now I’ll have to do more research on this topic. Thank you Jerry and Donut Media.
The trade off analysis you did was clean. Might have to send this video to one of my old engineering professors.
I would love to see you guys do a breakdown on the TC-SST used in the Evo X MR and Ralliart. It’s a unique transmission used in a very few number of cars and has a great community backing it.
It has a great community that loves and hates this transmission.
Did they figure out the over heating and limited power problem?
Would absolutely love more motorcycle content--especially Up to Speed
They should do an up to speed on motocross history
The transmission graveyard scene was genius. 👏🏾👏🏾👍🏾👍🏾
would definitely love to see a vid on the lightspeed transmission
@G i s e l l e 🍒 All your base are belongs to us!!! 😆
this episode could of been a “transmissions need to chill out”
When we getting an up to speed for the company ZF 👀
People think Fast n' Furious is unrealistic because of how much they shift, but really they're just ahead of the times
Good to see rc companies sponsor the channel. Hopefully you guys pick up better rc sponsors someday.
"Better rc sponsors"???😂
Love motorcycle content, please make more.
The older version of Zf in the 90s has 4 speed, the ZF4HP18, it has planetary gear as well, they shift really quick for automatic back then.
Day 249 of asking Donut to bring old B2B back
6 million subs already? I remember when you guys hit 1M and Pumphrey cried 😄
I'd like to see you talk about the new Tremec TKX transmission, and why it's an upgrade from the outgoing TKO, and what the wizardry is that makes it shift smoother with higher revs. THEN compare the TKX to the T56 and the T56 magnum. 💪
I agree. I still can’t believe how fast they grew up. After 1M
The "it'll peak, like you in high school" threw me off and made me spit my milk 😂😂
Please do more rc stuff, tamiya makes very fun kits to build and have tons of heritage and very detailed licensed bodies you paint yourself. Rc drifting is a big trend that started with awd cars but has transitioned to rwd with gyros and the ability to build your dream jdm drift car without drift tax. A comparison of different trucks with bashing to see what breaks first, or try to set a world record for a jump. Tons and tons of possibilitites and I think this audience would enjoy it from donut’s perspective
I would love to see a video on this transmission. I love y’all guys!!!! You have always made good videos.
The auto gearbox doing a shift in 2ms
The average manual enthusiast: "I cAn BeAt ThAT"
Differential ratio reduces wheel speed relative to transmission final ratio. Total wheel speed includes all ratios multiplied through the drive train back to the engine RPM.
Can you do a full breakdown on what makes the BMW E46 Diesel gearboxes so good?
So many people use them as manual conversions with big power
“A portion of this video is sponsored” 😂
Glad to see RC getting promoted on a big channel, grew up with those things ❤
Finally, a cool sponsor
you guys are awesome. keep it up. you should do a small piece on the 91 isuzu impulse rs turbo awd. it has really cool pop up, up and down headlights.
I once had a 2013 Hyundai Genesis coupe V6 with an 8 speed automatic. It really worked well with my bolt ons in manual mode making pops and crackles.
Yeah definitely do more motorcycle content those are my favorite 🤩
Electric motors have efficiency ranges too.
It would help range to still have a transmission.
The tycan has a 2 speed transmission.
I’d like to see a study on this. I think it would have more to do with load on the motor than rpm but a gearbox would have to help efficiency a little? Right?
I’m sure it will become a thing if it makes range longer.
Not to mention they definitely have power curves as well.
Can you do a full breakdown on Sequential Transmissions (maybe a Sadev).
Also, the Ford/GM 10 speed auto is one of my favorite transmissions today.
Obviously you don't own one. They are horrendous slush boxes that convert torque into loud clunks and bangs
@@2wheelhoon813 I've experienced one. That's why I can say it. They are a good transmission thus far. Not sure if you've ever experienced an automatic, but the modern automatics are becoming quite good.
@@emerycottle3166 what fucking part of I owned one don't you understand. I had the truck for like 6 months. 2019 5.0 10 speed 2wd. The only thing it was good for was wide open throttle or towing. Everything else it was junk. Ispecially when it was cold. Slip in and out of gear. At part throttle it would wind the engine out to like 3500 rpm at times than randomly slam into 3rd gear. Usually it would bark the tires or send you flying into the car Infront of you. In the snow no matter what I did I couldn't get rid of traction control or abs. As soon as the tires spun the truck flipped shit. It would go to a false neutral (clutches open computer controlled) until the wheels slowed back down. The biggest problem with that is the wheel speed decides when the transmission goes back into gear. Not rpm. So when your on the throttle and it suddenly falls out of gear unexpectedly the engine revs up. When the wheel spin stops the transmission goes back into gear before the rpms come down. It feel like your dumping the clutch in a standard trans car when it does it. One time it went back into gear on a dry part of the road and slammed so hard y glovebox came down. The 10 speeds are garbage. Way to meany variables for an inanimate object to handle. It has to take into account all sorts of parameters. Intake air temp. Oil temp. Trans temp. Ambient temp. Coolant temp. Rpm. Throttle position. Current gear. Wheel speed. Altitude. Ethonal content. The list goes on. A computer controlled automatic is incredibly complicated to engineer. It's not fords fault. But someone should have stood up and said no. We need to just stick with the 6 speed. Your not gaining anything in real world conditions. Just a PR stunt aimed at towing capabilities that are to large for a light half ton. And 0-60 times. It's nonsense. If you ever own one for yourself you WILL regret it unless you are completely ignorent to major noises and expensive repairs after 5 years
@@2wheelhoon813 I had good experience with my expedition and our work force ford rangers...except for one that makes a clunk noise when u put into neutral...
@Emery Cottle mines been great since day one. 50k on mine so far been FBO, Cammed since 15k miles with hundreds of foot brake launches and 8k RPM shifts. It's holding really well. Some people just have shit luck I guess
Yes to more motorcycle content!
Well we already have both extremes: one gear (on any EV. There is no reverse, they just switch the polarity of the motor) and infinite gears (CVT)
I need a video on the light speed transmission because I didn’t know it existed!
anyone notice how the subtitles were acknowledging skillshare and not arma the entire add portion??>>>> 0:42
weird
Maybe they changed the sponsor and forgot to change the subtitles
Yea
Right there with ya on the Pert Plus! My retinas are still recovering from a shower in 1994!
I’d really be interested in the Ford Powershift dual clutch transmission and why it was initially such a failure
We need more motorcycle content!!! ❤
Two thumbs up. Literally I was gonna ask if you can talk about the Koenigsegg LST... and just then, a mere 10 seconds later, you brought it up! Wooo
EDIT: YES PLEASE DO A WHOLE EPISODE ON IT!
just played Dirt5 for the first time this weekend! now my cars are sponsored by Donut and y'all's previous sponsors. Love you guys, and congrats on 6m subs!
Super keen to go into Koenigsegg’s transmissions, they’re getting up to some really interesting stuff
I will always love that clip from pumphrey "just werkin on my old hog here" in a spotless whiter than white hoodie lul
This is a fantastic video, thank you