Once you learn these Etudes, you will not be afraid of playing the piano because you will tear your inter-metacarpal interossei ligaments and will never be able to tolerate playing again. Some things you do learning to play difficult passages will take away your ability to play. It has a name: "Overuse syndrome." Usually there is no cure for it. Sanjosemike (no longer in CA) Retired surgeon
I have seen you spam comment this on many many videos over the years. With a skilled teacher this won’t happen. (Also I am aware of how anti-virtuosity you are)
@@Medtszkowski I am a retired surgeon. Tell your complaint to Gary Graffman. See what he says. My comments are not spam. If you have witnessed a patient who has to give up everything they worked for for years, due to an overuse syndrome, you would not be so sanguine. It happens. Very few piano teachers (if any) teach this. This is one of the reasons why Gary is so against competitions. Sanjosemike (no longer in CA) Retired surgeon
@@Medtszkowski Some keys to saving your career: 1. Always make sure your hands are warm prior to doing any repetitive exercises or passages. 2. Never start out a heavy, fast passage work without prior Hannon separate hand 5 finger exercises at a slow, relaxed tempo. 3. Never start out a concert performance without making sure your hands are warm. 4. Passage of the thumb is an important part of protecting your hands. There are some hidden "tricks" to learn in Chopin works that allow you to split up your thumb use between hands that are DIFFERENT from the notation he wrote. (Chopin Scherzo #1 is a particular example). 5. Ration your concertos. Never do all 5 Prokofiev concertos within a calendar month. 6. There is no reason for you to play all of the Transcendental Etudes of Liszt at once. I know it is done, but I consider it a circus stunt. It is dangerous and unnecessary. 7. The Ravel concerto for the left hand requires special treatment. Reduce the tempo. Ravel does not require it to be very fast. The Cadenza is more beautiful if played at half tempo. Consider your hands and wrists. Do not be tense when playing. It is not necessary. It is a habit that you should concentrate on changing. Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)
@@Medtszkowski Sadly, no. He only sight-read the pieces that he thought it would be interesting and funny. I think he skipped this one 'cause it will cause him a finger fracture. I might upload the midi performances of all difficult pieces that I had brought.
I do love Liszt. This one looks rough. I'm sure I could master it in maybe months of practice. But I must warn you, I do have an advantage. I do not own a piano. Haven't for nearly forty years. I cannot even bring myself to touch a piano. Long story. Perfectly understandable. But I play air piano. That I can do without all the psyops baggage. Long story. But, once I get down the fingering it always comes out perfectly! (Because it's air piano and all anyone hears is the perfect recording. 😉😁) Actually, it's not always perfect. I wince every time I hit a wrong note. No one else knows, but I sure do!!
@@ValseMelancolique kinda, I found the midi from somewhere else, and then got the mp3 from it, and then edited the sheet music onto the video and timed it in editing, but I speed up the cadenza prestissimssisssmsoeiosiosa as possible sections
Genuine question, Is the 'prestissimo' at the cadenza sections based on how it should sound or is it the actual tempo? Because seeing prestissimo and then seeing 64th notes makes me want to commit a war crime.
It’s likely more of an implied “play it as fast as **you** possibly can, but keep it steady throughout” or delaborde was just the most insane tempo keeper in history of piano.
@@Medtszkowski Thank you so much for the clarification! Seeing tempo key words like "Prestissimo" made a light go off in my head as I thought it was in reference to the actual tempo when the word in themselves have their own meaning. I just having some Alkan "Comme le Vent" flashbacks haha.
@@Medtszkowski the etude in question, barely. The rest of the set is actually surprisingly musical. He wrote a prelude and fugue in there that has slowly become one of my favourite saint saens piece (or one of them).
Not a bad MIDI rendering, but the cadenzas really take you out of the moment. They should still sound like music, and little notes in a score don't mean as fast as inhumanly possible.
It’s because I sped up the audio itself, and not the midi. It was my mistake. But I plan on making a synthesia video on it if my crappy Mac from 2014 allows
It's certainly interesting, but I don't think this piece holds much value for performers. Musically it's pretty dull, and considering the effort you'd need to put in to learn it...
I agree, this piece is quite unpretty. With exception to the rolled chords spot. But you could always play Chopin’s & this one. Extra sixths practice! (Especially with that cadenza LOL)
If I play this, I won't be affraid of ANYTHING anymore
Lol
Once I elarn these etudes I shall never be afraid of Brahms again
“Bro, Chopin’s Etude Op. 25 no. 8 is like work of the devil”
Delaborde: Hold my beer.
true
I am adding this to the list of pieces I shall try and play some day. Key word: someday
4:55 _piano.exe_ has stopped working
Once you learn these Etudes, you will not be afraid of playing the piano because you will tear your inter-metacarpal interossei ligaments and will never be able to tolerate playing again.
Some things you do learning to play difficult passages will take away your ability to play. It has a name: "Overuse syndrome." Usually there is no cure for it.
Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)
Retired surgeon
I have seen you spam comment this on many many videos over the years. With a skilled teacher this won’t happen.
(Also I am aware of how anti-virtuosity you are)
@@Medtszkowski I am a retired surgeon. Tell your complaint to Gary Graffman. See what he says. My comments are not spam. If you have witnessed a patient who has to give up everything they worked for for years, due to an overuse syndrome, you would not be so sanguine. It happens. Very few piano teachers (if any) teach this. This is one of the reasons why Gary is so against competitions.
Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)
Retired surgeon
I know your comments aren’t spam, they aren’t untrue, but you have said this a lot on many videos
@@Medtszkowski Some keys to saving your career:
1. Always make sure your hands are warm prior to doing any repetitive exercises or passages.
2. Never start out a heavy, fast passage work without prior Hannon separate hand 5 finger exercises at a slow, relaxed tempo.
3. Never start out a concert performance without making sure your hands are warm.
4. Passage of the thumb is an important part of protecting your hands. There are some hidden "tricks" to learn in Chopin works that allow you to split up your thumb use between hands that are DIFFERENT from the notation he wrote. (Chopin Scherzo #1 is a particular example).
5. Ration your concertos. Never do all 5 Prokofiev concertos within a calendar month.
6. There is no reason for you to play all of the Transcendental Etudes of Liszt at once. I know it is done, but I consider it a circus stunt. It is dangerous and unnecessary.
7. The Ravel concerto for the left hand requires special treatment. Reduce the tempo. Ravel does not require it to be very fast. The Cadenza is more beautiful if played at half tempo.
Consider your hands and wrists. Do not be tense when playing. It is not necessary. It is a habit that you should concentrate on changing.
Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)
Thank you!!!
I. Philipp - Concert Study No. 1 after Chopin's 25-6 and Galston - Variante Zur Ubung In Doppelgriffen are also insane sixth etudes
Anything by galston gottfried is just insane. Like his Chopin black key etude
@@Medtszkowski I have no social media unfortunately
Oh hello there
@@kasajizo8963 isn’t RUclips counted as one?
@@IEEMAZ_Convoluted_14.2.8.5 hello!
2:34
4:57 delaborde bruh
"Quasi" trillo
Wish I could hear this played by a human instead of a computer
Me too
Yeah. It’s way to unmusical and robotic!
@@Littlelovebug.7 especially the cadenza in the final
@@FranzLiszt0904 yeah!
I played this... Now I'm typing from my grave.
Or typing with your toes because your fingers are in smithereens
excelent work
Lolol. This was the one of the pieces that I brought to Seonyong Hwang for sight-reading.
Do you have video? I really want to see that lool.
@@Medtszkowski Sadly, no. He only sight-read the pieces that he thought it would be interesting and funny. I think he skipped this one 'cause it will cause him a finger fracture.
I might upload the midi performances of all difficult pieces that I had brought.
@@DemitNWC it probably would cause a finger fracture LOL
@@DemitNWC please do
I’m more concerned with the…64ths? Idk I’m not great at reading a note with anything more than two thicc boi lines above the notes
Henri Herz also has a lot of 64tha
@Einekleine only 1 instance though! 64th notes are in all of henri herz’s concertos
2:32 MARTHA ARGERICH??????
what in the super mario bros that cadenza was insane
nah man i would be traumatized of sixths
I do love Liszt. This one looks rough. I'm sure I could master it in maybe months of practice. But I must warn you, I do have an advantage. I do not own a piano. Haven't for nearly forty years. I cannot even bring myself to touch a piano. Long story. Perfectly understandable. But I play air piano. That I can do without all the psyops baggage. Long story.
But, once I get down the fingering it always comes out perfectly! (Because it's air piano and all anyone hears is the perfect recording. 😉😁)
Actually, it's not always perfect. I wince every time I hit a wrong note. No one else knows, but I sure do!!
Yes I would love to hear you play it!!! Btw this is delaborde, not liszt
@@Medtszkowski Haha mea culpa. Lol You'd think I would have seen that. 🤪🤪🤪
4:55 human
Real.
lol that cadenza
I had to speed up the midi there like x20
@@Medtszkowski oh you made this!
@@ValseMelancolique kinda, I found the midi from somewhere else, and then got the mp3 from it, and then edited the sheet music onto the video and timed it in editing, but I speed up the cadenza prestissimssisssmsoeiosiosa as possible sections
Nah my one hand c major scale in sixths for grade 8 is plenty 👍
Lol this would be like grade 28
If I have a computer at my disposal, I am not afraid of anything.
Genuine question, Is the 'prestissimo' at the cadenza sections based on how it should sound or is it the actual tempo? Because seeing prestissimo and then seeing 64th notes makes me want to commit a war crime.
I just speed up the midi there as much as I could, I don’t know how you would play it though lol
It’s likely more of an implied “play it as fast as **you** possibly can, but keep it steady throughout” or delaborde was just the most insane tempo keeper in history of piano.
@@Medtszkowski Thank you so much for the clarification! Seeing tempo key words like "Prestissimo" made a light go off in my head as I thought it was in reference to the actual tempo when the word in themselves have their own meaning. I just having some Alkan "Comme le Vent" flashbacks haha.
@@NanaKwame96 tiny notes are in the whole family
4:58 sounds ridiculous😂
Thank God I play the Horn. I don't have to deal with this😤😌😌
Lmao technically nobody has had to deal with this specific piece so far as we know
It is difficult even for the computer 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
LOL
2:30 wait, what?
We should expect nothing less from the son of Alkan!
Just curious, what's your view on Liszt's transcriptions such as Beethoven's symphonies, Bach's fugues, etc?
All of them are amazing
@@Medtszkowski do you have any favorites?
I really like all of them, but beethoven-Liszt no. 4 is especially my favorite
@@Medtszkowski nice, my favorites are Beethoven/Liszt no. 3, 8, and 9 and Bach/Liszt Prelude and Fugue in a minor
All of them are terrible
I think should be in a slow tempo like 25 quarter notes
Oh
Oh
😂😂
I played Debussy’s etude for sixths, that should be fine 😁😁😁
But this takes it to the next level
Are there any pianists have ever played and recorded this etude?
Nope. But I believe strakosch’s Yankee Doodle variations deserve a recording before this does
Delaborde was Alkan’s illegitimate son.
how are those 64th notes possible to play?
I don’t even think they are lol
if you want a realistic recommendation, i would recommend saint saens' (still hellish but) easier etude op 52 no 1
And probably a lot more musical than this lol
@@Medtszkowski the etude in question, barely. The rest of the set is actually surprisingly musical. He wrote a prelude and fugue in there that has slowly become one of my favourite saint saens piece (or one of them).
Is this the son of Alkan
Yes I’m pretty sure
An illegitimate son of Alkan, yes; Alkan never married.
Not a bad MIDI rendering, but the cadenzas really take you out of the moment. They should still sound like music, and little notes in a score don't mean as fast as inhumanly possible.
It’s because I sped up the audio itself, and not the midi. It was my mistake. But I plan on making a synthesia video on it if my crappy Mac from 2014 allows
@@Medtszkowski Look forward to hearing it!
Can you gliss with 6ths?
Yes
It is even easy if you use 2 hands!
Damn sixth gliss? Nah
Noice
Yo first. Kinda strange piece but good for technique
Yes it is a strange piece
One synthesia video of this and you're on
Edit: my idea, don't steal this
I’ll steal it, but I’ll mention you (big mention) for the idea)
@@Medtszkowski loll no worries
@@simonthompson8094I still haven’t done it bruh.
🌜
Fin
It's certainly interesting, but I don't think this piece holds much value for performers. Musically it's pretty dull, and considering the effort you'd need to put in to learn it...
You are right, it is dull. But those cadenzas LOL
Something more easy for thirds or sixths?? hahha
Musical Lisztish
Not really
Hi a a ron
Ⓜ️
Se devi passare parecchio tempo a studiare,forse è molto meglio studiare le studio di seste di chopin, molto più bello e molto più utile!!
I agree, this piece is quite unpretty. With exception to the rolled chords spot. But you could always play Chopin’s & this one. Extra sixths practice! (Especially with that cadenza LOL)
Midi foolishness 🤦♂️
Unfortunately it doesn't sound like good music tho?
I agree, but those cadenzasz
anyone ever actually cared to play this?? 🙉🙉😅
No lol
😅😅🙉🙈😭
😭
Music without substance.
Ya
Come studio è proprio brutto