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Jesus And Divorce: The Truth About Fornication And Adultery | Pastor Allen Nolan Sermon Clip
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- Опубликовано: 19 авг 2024
- It's often been taught that the only grounds for divorce in a Christian marriage is adultery - but is that what Jesus actually taught? Check out the latest clip from Pastor Allen Nolan's marriage series "Vows" where he dives into this often misunderstood topic.
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Thank you for this. Mental, emotional and verbal abuse is difficult for people to see. This was true in my case until I left the situation and everyone said I looked 10 years younger. I miss the man I married but not the man he became.
Hopefully you go back to Husband .. seems you changed him to the worst .. u let him abuse you..why ..u should of charged him to help him and yourself ...
@@phillyunrau4736, you can’t change people. You can only give information and show them how to act through your actions. They still have to decide to change on their own.
Can’t specify publicly the grounds for which I walk through the divorce path, but I thank the Lord for your words. I see/hear so many women and men staying into a broken marriage covenant that is costing them dearly (mentally, emotionally, sexually, physically, financially, and it’s hurting their children too). Thank you for bringing the body of Christ some clarity, a calling to honesty and responsibility regarding relationships within marriage.
I think some couples just get married without praying about things first. They "fall in love", get married, then find out what their spouse is really like. People should ask God for guidance before marriage, then hopefully, with prayer, a couple will marry and have their marriage blessed by God. Seek God in all areas, especially marriage.
This will give alot of peace to abuse victims.
My wife was tragically killed in a car accident and I've been worried about marriage again because most single women my age are divorced. I thought I would have to be alone for the rest of my life or commit adultery but this has message has been a God send! Thank you for this clarification.
Have you found any widows?
Come on guy. Every woman your age is divorced? You're justified for remarriage in the event your spouse is no longer alive. 1st Corinthians 7:39. Just look for single woman who hasn't been married and then divorced.
If you marry a woman who has a still living covenant spouse, then yes, you will be committing adultery. You would only be able to marry a widow or never married.
Luke 16:18
18 “For example, a man who divorces his wife and marries someone else commits adultery. And anyone who marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery.”
@@Glory.To.God.In.The.Highest Actually, that's not true. If remarriage were adultery, the scenario in Deuteronomy 24:2 would not have been possible.
@@dh605x
Those who are in Christ Jesus are no longer under Mosaic Law, which by the way, was given to the people of Israel.
2 Corinthians 3:7-18
New Living Translation
The Glory of the New Covenant
7 The old way, with laws etched in stone, led to death, though it began with such glory that the people of Israel could not bear to look at Moses’ face. For his face shone with the glory of God, even though the brightness was already fading away. 8 Shouldn’t we expect far greater glory under the new way, now that the Holy Spirit is giving life? 9 If the old way, which brings condemnation, was glorious, how much more glorious is the new way, which makes us right with God! 10 In fact, that first glory was not glorious at all compared with the overwhelming glory of the new way. 11 So if the old way, which has been replaced, was glorious, how much more glorious is the new, which remains forever!
12 Since this new way gives us such confidence, we can be very bold. 13 We are not like Moses, who put a veil over his face so the people of Israel would not see the glory, even though it was destined to fade away. 14 But the people’s minds were hardened, and to this day whenever the old covenant is being read, the same veil covers their minds so they cannot understand the truth. And this veil can be removed only by believing in Christ. 15 Yes, even today when they read Moses’ writings, their hearts are covered with that veil, and they do not understand.
16 But whenever someone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. 17 For the Lord is the Spirit, and wherever the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. 18 So all of us who have had that veil removed can see and reflect the glory of the Lord. And the Lord-who is the Spirit-makes us more and more like him as we are changed into his glorious image.
*** Now read what Jesus said about remarriage, (with a still living first spouse)...very important as it is a Salvation issue:
1 Corinthians 7:10-11
Mark 10:10-12
Luke 16:18
Romans 7:1-3
1 Corinthians 7:39
1 Corinthians 6:9-10
You have blessed me with this message. I was physically and sexually abused when I married a narcissist at age 17. I was able to escape a few years later and I felt condemned in a way thinking that me divorcing him was a sin. This is the confirmation I needed! The stamp on it that I needed after many years of prayer and keeping to myself because of thinking of I remarried it would be a sin. Thank you!!
Narcissistic abuse is terrible. I thank the Lord for your healing. 🙏🏾
Just be free in christ. Jesus paid it all. Forever.
You still never had biblical grounds for divorce.Abuse. seperation yes leave home to safety. No divorce scripture is clear.
@@grant2149 hey don’t condemn her for getting to safety after all divorce isn’t the unforgivable sin . Hypocrisy is also detestable to the lord and he who is without sin shall cast the first stone. He died on the cross for all our sins
@@Kayykorea lol hypocrisy. You come before God making an oath a covenent to him when married. Then go to a lawyer to get divorced. Whoever does that is a hypocrite.
If people can hold out on temptation and find a husband or wife who loves Jesus as much as you do, then you give your marriage a far more chance of survival. God has to be consistent in both your lives.
Exactly and not to marry just not to be lonely or lust of the flesh.Marriage is not easy and something you can’t just tap out of because issues arises.
He's leaving out the part where if you get a divorce, you have to remain un married.
You can remarry if your spouse broke God's law.
you cannot get remarried. 1 Corinthians 7:11 But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.
I thought you could only remarry if you husband/wife has died...
Law of Divorce
(Matthew 5:31-32; Luke 16:18-18)
1When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house. 2And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife. 3And if the latter husband hate her, and write her a bill of divorcement, and giveth it in her hand, and sendeth her out of his house; or if the latter husband die, which took her to be his wife; 4Her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that is abomination before the LORD: and thou shalt not cause the land to sin, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance.
5When a man hath taken a new wife, he shall not go out to war, neither shall he be charged with any business: but he shall be free at home one year, and shall cheer up his wife which he hath taken.
@@dianetigert1310 You can. Read Deuteronomy 24:1, 2.
great message and points....it took me 3 years to understand what you said. religion can misdirect, the Holy Spirit is key to a life of marital bliss. Love never fails. thanks pastor
I'm glad at least one pastor in America is courageous enough to address this verse honestly. In many cases one spouse utterly abandons the other and is unresponsive, uncooperative, brazenly unloving for many years and many Christians believe the spouse has to stay until immoral sex happens - even in the face of this brazen abandonment and very hard hearted cruelty toward the spouse. It doesn't even make logical sense at all, nor biblical sense
That is just the spouse not surrendering to God. They will be held accountable for what they've done. But you too, are held accountable for what you do in response. That's why He says to forgive. Marriage is tough. And if someone is an unbeliever and they choose to leave. You let them leave. If you choose to leave, you are free to do so. But regardless, you are still bound to God's laws, and He tells you what those laws are. He is unchanging, and so is His Word, regardless of what you go through. After a bad marriage, you may have to live alone. But if you turn to God, He will give you the peace you need to be okay with that.
So my divorcing my husband for his constant drinking, drugging, lying, and stealing would constitute grounds of fornication? If so, I am so reassured about making that choice 23 years ago (he's still at it by the way). I pray for him.
Matthew 6:15
@@seancrippen2167....sorry I posted scripture.
the problem with being a believer is; everyone has their own definition of it. Yet scripture defines what a believer is in Acts 2:44-45 remember the first believers? And all that believed were together, and had all things common; And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.....now look at Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned....look who are damned.Matthew 25:41-46
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
@@dianetigert1310 * That scripture you posted ( Matt. 6:15 ) deals with those people that are under the Law, and not the uncircumcised believer that have been saved by Grace. Compare this to Col. 2:13--14, and Eph. 4:32 which shows the difference between the Law and Grace. Under Grace the believer has obtained salvation when he becomes a Christian, he doesn't have to worry about fulfilling the Law in order to be in correct fellowship with God.
@@seancrippen2167
please forgive, I am going to respond to both post....
1) you said Matt. 6:15 is for those under the law? Are you referring to Love God with your all-in-all as the greatest of the law? Is that the law your talking about? without going any further on that statement, could you clarify this matter?
2) I did define the unbeliever and posted the words of Jesus as to whom ALL the unbelievers are.
reading the scriptures brings repentance? and the holy spirit? Acts 5:32 disagrees with you. Who teaches you this? And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.
when you say have a good evening, is that your exiting the conversation about the greatest story anyone would gladly share with another?
Diane tigert * You're confusing the greatest commandment with the Law of the nation of Israel ( of which there are over 600 separate laws ). I thought you had tried to explain the definition of a believer (Acts 2:44--45 ) not the definition of an unbeliever.
I don't see where Acts 5: 32 has proven me wrong. What I am seeing is that you are confusing and inner mingling( like many Christians ) the ministry of Jesus Christ to that of the ministry of Paul. Jesus came to the Jewish nation as the fulfillment of God's promise to the Jewish nation. He came as their Messiah and to show and to teach the Jewish people that He was their long awaited Godly King. He did not come to bring salvation to the gentile people, as He only ministered to the nation of Israel (with two exceptions ). As a Jew and as a Rabbi, He was prevent to have any fellowship with a gentile. Jesus taught a new Gospel for the nation of Israel, the Gospel of the Kingdom ( Matt. 4:23 & 9:35 ), and He instructed His disciples to only teach this Gospel of the Kingdom to the Jewish people ( Matt. 10:5--7 ). When Jesus or His disciples spoke they were speaking to the Jewish people. I'm not saying that what Jesus or His disciples have said is not of value to the gentile believer, but to better understand the NT. scriptures a distinction should be realized between what and to whom Jesus and His disciples were teaching, and that of the ministry of Paul. Paul was commissioned by Jesus Christ, approximately 13 years after the crucifixion, to carry a new Gospel to the gentile nations. This Gospel is called the Gospel of the Grace of God (Acts 20:24 ),and is the Gospel by which salvation is granted to the gentile believer. Without this Gospel and Paul's writings ( Romans through Philemon ) there would not be a pathway to salvation for the gentile believer.
You can search the NT. scriptures and you won't find Jesus Christ or His disciples preaching anything about His death, burial, and resurrection, only about the Kingdom. Paul preached the Gospel of the Grace of God, and that Gospel is all about believing in the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. For the gentile believer this is how salvation was granted to the gentile. This is the difference between the Law and Grace. Jesus said in Matt. 5:17 that He didn't come to abolish the Law or the Prophets, but to fulfill.
The book of Galatians tells how Paul and the Jerusalem Church settled their disagreement between the gentile and the Jewish believer.
So many people don't realize there are 2 different Gospels for 2 different set of people, which results in 2 different pathways for each group in their journey to reach the Millennium and beyond.
Please feel free to ask me any question, and I'll try to answer you.
Thank you for your message. My husband was a very verbally abusive man, and he was also getting physically abusive, so I divorced him, (I was trying to figure out how to kill myself), I was always taught that divorce was wrong. So I believed I had no choice but to stay in the marriage. Thankfully my close friend saw what was happening, and helped me get a divorce. I’ve been divorced since 2007, but I’ve always wondered if I can get into Heaven. I even went so far as to think, man, if not for my friend, I’d still be in my marriage and it’s all her fault I messed up and left my husband. Your message totally gave me relief, after all these years of self doubt. And surely I’m not the only one that thought that way.
Abby, I pray that you wouldplease read the Word of God for yourself. Be convinced by the Holy Spirit. First, in situations when you must separate, this is what Jesus says:
1 Corinthians 7:10-11
10 But for those who are married, I have a command that comes not from me, but from the Lord. A wife must not leave her husband. 11 But if she does leave him, let her remain single or else be reconciled to him. And the husband must not leave his wife.
*** Here Jesus does allow for SEPARATION...but does not recognize divorce. There is so much deception which Jesus said would come in the last days. This pastor would like you to believe that you are justified to remarry even if your Covenant (first) spouse is alive. Sister, this is a lie from the pit of hell...please pray for the Holy Spirit to lead as you read the following scriptures...
Further...
Mark 10:10-12
10 Later, when he was alone with his disciples in the house, they brought up the subject again.
11 He told them, “Whoever divorces his wife and marries someone else commits adultery against her. 12 And if a woman divorces her husband and marries someone else, she commits adultery.”
Death is the only way to end the marriage covenant:
Romans 7:1-3
7 Now, dear brothers and sisters[a]-you who are familiar with the law-don’t you know that the law applies only while a person is living? 2 For example, when a woman marries, the law binds her to her husband as long as he is alive. But if he dies, the laws of marriage no longer apply to her. 3 So while her husband is alive, she would be committing adultery if she married another man. But if her husband dies, she is free from that law and does not commit adultery when she remarries.
WHAT THE LORD SAYS IS THE CONSEQUENCE OF REMARRIAGE ADULTERY OR SEX OUTSIDE OF A COVENANT MARRIAGE:
Proverbs 14:12
12 There is a path before each person that seems right, but it ends in death.
Good to read Romans chapters 7 & 8
1 Corinthians 6:9-10
9 Don’t you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don’t fool yourselves. Those who indulge in SEXUAL SIN, (fornication/sex of unmarried) or who worship IDOLS, or commit ADULTERY, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality, 10 or are thieves, or greedy people, or drunkards, or are abusive, or cheat people-none of these will inherit the Kingdom of God.
Am so glad you heard this message. Divorce is not the unforgivable sin. It's great you got out of that terrible environment.
Would have been awful to have lived in it thinking that there was no way out. Praise God for your friend.
I was married at 17 to a man I and my family thought was a good Christian man. After I was pregnant he told me that he wanted to dress like the woman. I was away from home, alone. I talked to a priest who said that anything we both found acceptable was ok. But this was not acceptable to me. So it stopped and I thought all was ok. Then found out he repeatedly raped our daughter while dressed as woman. Under Jewish law, he’d have been stoned and I’d have been free. But we don’t live in that culture. I divorced him, no regrets. He’s lucky he didn’t spend many years in jail. He would have except he moved to different state and would have been very traumatic for child. I don’t believe for one minute that divorce was wrong in God’s eyes. These people with the I’ve been happy for 40 years. Marriage is forever, stick it out, are off the mark. They were lucky. I protected my child and I was right. It really annoys me that because they were fortunate they think they can judge those who weren’t. It’s not all about hurt feelings and burnt toast.
@@mchevalier-seawell4438 Glad you got out as well. That would have been very difficult.
Yeah, I think Christians who judge & tell other Christians that they should stay in the marriage regardless have never really experienced these type of abusive situations & it's easy for them to say.
They're generally black & white thinkers I find.
Dear AbbyGirl, what you were taught that you cannot divorce is the truth and what the bible teaches, the scripture in Matthew 19:9-10 was interpreted erroneously here. eg Matthew 19:9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication.... Now when a person is married and cheats on the partner that is not called fornication, but the bible used fornication here, there is a deeper meaning which I cannot use this reply to give, having said this, you cannot divorce when you are married, however, since you were experiencing abuse you can separate from your husband but cannot remarry. As I said there is more to that scripture than how it is being interpreted here
In Modern Day DIVORCE, the grounds are even widened into the lowest point of logical reasoning of man, the "Irreconcilable Differences."... Facts and Truth
look where the unbelievers who claim to be believers do their divorcing...1 Corinthians 6:1
thank you so much for THIS clarification - I knew I wasn't crazy - I take my relationship with God serious and I'm thankful He led me here - I do NOT want to be out of order for my divorce 7 years ago - thank you Jesus! 🙏🏾
Good teaching! The use of that word always got me, but when I looked it up I never arrived at this understanding. Thank you for this teaching!
I love your sermons. You preach with unwavering confidence in what you are saying and that is so reassuring to us 🥰
Look what the disciple after Jesus told us what Jesus taught him....Luke 16:18
Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.
Look what Jesus told the Jews who were conversing with him....John 8:41
Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God. Where in the 10 commandments from God is the sin of fornication? Is it Ex. 20:14?
And it gets more intense with this saying from Jesus....Matthew 6:9-15
(15)But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
NOW, for the exposure.......Job 32:20-22
Why would a man claiming to be from God take on a title whereby others will seek honor with that man?
Jesus called all those who do that the unbelievers...John 5:44
again in John 8:50-51 And I seek not mine own glory: there is one that seeketh and judgeth.
Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.
Look who never say death verses them that did.....Matthew 25:34-40 the sheep have life, 41-46 the goats get death!!
@@dianetigert1310 what are you trying to say?
@@xDiananas
what Jesus said rather than man!!
@@dianetigert1310 Anybody can fart out bible quotes, as the Devil himself demonstrated in Matthew 4. The value is in applying the Word of God. When you cut-and-paste bible quotes and refuse to provide any clarification on the application even after being asked to, it looks like you are trying to insinuate something. You aren't adding anything of value to the discussion, nor are you honoring God when you do this.
I call it "farting" for good reason. It's cheap and it's cowardly. Don't do it.
@@dh605x
sounds suiting for video host and it's followers...farting unscriptural interpretations that please the sinner, not convict them..........hope that doesn't taste too good for.....
Thank you for clarifying this. Have never heard it this way, and so many of us leaving an abusive marriage have been taught differently. God bless you for teaching us what Jesus meant.
This was eye-opening. May God bless you.
I am married, have been for many years. Even way back in 1962, I did not promise God or any human that I would live in obedience to any man. The man I married understood that I would be his life partner carrying an equal though different load of responsibility. He agreed that this was a common goal in our relationship. Neither of us made a promise “ until death do us part”. I did not promise to endure his mistreatment, nor him my mistreatment. How many people have regretted making a promise to remain in a marriage where the man doesn’t provide properly for the family, who uses his spare time to drink and carouse at the local bar, who is abusive , mean spirited, and irresponsible? How many people have regretted making a promise to remain in a marriage where the woman spends every dime on her beauty needs and decorating preferences, who uses her time to work toward a personal goal without any regard for the family’s needs. A woman who is verbally abusive when she doesn’t get her way , drinks to excess , behaves in a sexy manner toward every man she encounters ? God tells us to not make promises we know we cannot keep or do not intend to keep.
You have got it 😮dear sister be ready for that crown
I get really frustrated when pastors avoid that Jesus was speaking to Jews who knew that adultery meant that the spouse would suffer stoning to death. Divorce (putting away) is not on the table in this case.
Catering to the world with ear tickling and sugar coating
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Hi thanks for posting . Remember when Jesus spoke to the woman at the well she had been maried and divorce several times Jesus answered and said to her, “Everyone who drinks this water will be thirsty again; but whoever drinks the water I shall give will never thirst; the water I shall give will become in him a spring of water welling up to eternal life. The woman said to him, “Sir, give me this water, so that I may not be thirsty or have to keep coming here to draw water.”
Jesus said to her, “Go call your husband and come back.” The woman answered and said to him, “I do not have a husband.” Jesus answered her, “You are right in saying, ‘I do not have a husband.’ For you have had five husbands, and the one you have now is not your husband. What you have said is true.” - John 4:13-18 Jesus was saying to her even though she has gone though divorce and remarriage multible time If she folows the lard she still saved
Wow! A pastor that is actually fair and balanced who doesn't just blame men for everything!
We all must do our part and spread the good news be bold be brave be humble
You have eloquently twisted what God says about marriage. And I see that many here are relieved to believe that they are not in an adulterous relationship...even though they are.
Excatly they lile their ears tickled to hear what they want to justify the continous sin.
@@grant2149, @Glory To God In The Highest Yes, this incorrect interpretation is sending lots of people to eternal fire. Very sad indeed! Remarriage after divorce while the ex is still alive is adultery except for fornication which is sex before the wedding day. Case in point, Joseph thought Mary (his fiancée) had committed fornication aka sex before marriage and was going to divorce her until he had the dream confirming Mary was in fact a virgin. Most cultures on earth do not have this culture of staying a virgin until the wedding day, so when this command by Jesus is twisted by a man or woman of God, people fall for it.
God has sent new spouses into the lives of many divorced Christians. They waited on the Lord and let Him direct them. God FORGIVES❤ Many preachers/evangelists are happily remarried for decades and God has blessed them. If they were living in PERPETUAL adultery, He would not have done that.
@Glory.To.God.In.The.Highest So I guess abusive marriages are supported by God because the abusive Spouse may not have had sex with someone else yet? If that is all that matters in marriage then what is marriage good for? The answer would be nothing. A loveless marriage is worthless.
@arevelationofeternallife actually that would be adultery because they were betrothed when it happened. Also if they are Christians and ask for Jesus to forgive their sins do you really think this is somehow unforgivable?
That is some good Preaching Pastor Allen
This message is for tickling and itching ears He is twisting and bending scripture God hates divorce you can separate that’s true but you cannot remarry as long as your spouse is still alive
Excatly. He does Not want to lose members so they tell their Hurch people wwhat they wanted to hear.
Wrong ! God did not intend for one to live with some one who beats them! If ones spouse screws somebody else one can get a divorce ! There is a scripture that says God rather we stay single but rather we marry as to burn
Wrong ! You need to educate yourself to more scriptures!
Wrong God dont intend one to live in abuse!
@@diannesmith9616 oh yes you can re marry even if your spouse is alive. 1 Corinthians 7:15.
This teachingbis so good . But consider what Pastor said around the 6:00 minute time mark...
Lets agree that SUPPORT is not limied to financial support. It also includes emotional, spiritual and any way the family needs support, in order to please God and glorify God with the marriage. Financial support is not the only type of support that is needed from a Father. Agree???
Am glad we agree that fornication is not sex before marriage
This is good teaching pastor Allen
This was so helpful to me and I’m so grateful I found this.
'God help you if you adhere to it.
Jesus NEVER said adultery was grounds for divorce and definitely NOT remarriage! Fornication is an UNMARRIED sin
Excatly💯
I just spent an hour researching & cannot find this definition of porneia ANYWHERE. Please provide a reference to where you got this definition. I've looked up the Greek in Strongs, blb, Google, articles, and over 10 different sources all say sexual immorality - not licensciousness (refusal to conform to the Biblical standards of a marriage covenant). Thank you
I couldn't find it either...
Yes he is not tell the truth.
@@WalkingbytheSpiritAlways Fornication is a general reference to sexual sin and most certainly does include adultery as well as incest. I have consulted numbers of lexicons. What lexicon are you using? Your reference to betrothal is not found in the text
@Stephanie Mcgill My heart is in tune with God and I will not add to the text what is not there. I have consulted numbers of lexicons and the meaning of pornia is sexual sin of every kind including adultery and incest. That is the truth. Study everywhere in scripture where pornia is used and you will see it applies to group of people some of whom are married persons. 1Thessalonians 4:3 is one example
@Stephanie Mcgill No mention of betrothal or Joseph and Mary in Matthew 5 or Matthew 19. Sorry but I can't add to the Word what is not there
I would like to know what Greek lexicons he uses to define pornia. Every Greek lexicon and Word study that I have consulted defines pornia as sexual sin in general
Excellent book on this subject of divorce and ( remarriage,) which he did not mention, is written by theologin and Bible teacher David Pawson. He is now home with Jesus, at age 90, but left a 70 year library and teaching website out of the UK. The book is called 'Divorce and Remarriage'. He took 50 years of life experience as a Pastor, and research from church history and other scholars to create his manuscript. ❤ His testimonies of the impact of the Biblical truth is life changing on this serious subject.
Pawson turned a blind eye to his sons remarriage sadly
Thank so much for sharing! Praise the LORD, His Word gives us clarity.
Sexual Intercourse is the marriage of two flesh into one. Only DEATH can severe this union. Paul addressed Virgins and Widows in regards to marriage (1 Corinthians 7). Why?
I am not sure about this message. It sounds good and would be great for abuse victims(as I am one as well) but this doesn’t sound biblical. Sounds like a message to give a ‘christian’ way out of marriage. This could be leading people away from sound scriptural teaching. 🤔
@@allennolanWhat about the wedding vows, "Till death do us part?" The vows don't include, "Or 'till divorce do us part," do they?
@@allennolanAlso, vows ARE UNBREAKABLE!
This doesn't sound right at all. I researched it also. Nowhere does the greek word porneia mean licentiousness. I'm praying about this, and doing more research very important!
They put away but she was stoned to death for her sin of FORNICATION, which loosed him from the one flesh law, if she couldn't be stoned to death, and he goes and married another, he is in adultery, and caused his wife to go and get into ADULTERY..one flesh law is with a man as long as he lives Romans 7:1-5..1Corin
7:10&11&39..Malachi 1&2..Mark 10:3-12..Ezra 10..so these churches are full of adulterers ..Hosea 4..
I love this teacher.
A young lady I know, let's call her Elaine, happened to find herself overwhelmed with feelings of resentment and hostility for her friend, let's call him George. She felt that George was somewhat of a loser and that she was the one who deserved to be married first. She also happened to mention to me that her friend had wondered if going to a prostitute while you're engaged is considered cheating. His feeling was they're never going to see each other again so what's the difference?
Grew up in a divorced home. Seeing too much failed marriages among family, piers and mates. Decided to never marry. I don't trust anyone.
So you have no sex?
Agree 100%. Adultery is just one possible reasons for divorce. Although, divorce covers so many aspects of not keeping the marriage covenants.
Fornication and adultery.. Both will get us out of heaven
Then why did Jesus die?
@@dylan15243read 1 cor 6:9 and 10
I baptism 10years before. I have 2elder sisters their marriage was late in our system we marry from elder to young in order,
I met one guy but i knew he is not my future partner but we loved he always spoked bad god warning (pastor) many many years to stop sin god gave numbers 5:21 but i didn't obey, after 5years he married one girl,that time pastor warned seriously but i didn't obey, we did sexual sins(5months) after his marriage his wife affected coz of me
1.I felt god's grace, mercy closed in my life.
2.Marriage not happened,Now health condition affected,
3.mild arthritis disease, sickness, fingers damaged and bent. Can't do anything without others help.
I destroyed my life.
Please don't do any sexual sins.
I disobeyed god's voice. Now god broke me
I don't care if remarriage is permitted following a divorce or not. I was abandoned by my spouse, and I feel like my soul is ripped apart. The last thing I want is to marry another person. I feel depressed and so lonely, and spiritually dry.
I truly understand. The pain of abandonment is horrible. Please understand it, isn't you, it's them. I would ask you to lean into the pain, ask the Lord for discernment, and if able look to speak with your pastor or a Christian counselor. I went through something very similar. 20 years and poof... I looked to myself and wondered what was wrong with me. I admit I have flaws, but in the end, it was my spouse's choice to leave me and our children. I healed, and whether you believe it or not, you will, too! I will be praying for you. God bless.
I disagree with the Pastor's interpretation... Let us analyze... Matt. 19:9, "whosoever shall "Put Away" his wife, except it be for Fornication, and so on..."...The English word/phrase "PUT AWAY" does not mean DIVORCE, but a temporary SEPARATION... God knows, TIME heals all wounds... If the Spouse decided to FORGIVE for any reason, like love, family, children, faith, etc... let them BIND again as a Married Couple... Remember, For God/Christ, only thru DEATH they are free from their VOWS... and free to marry again if wishes...
While for Mankind due to their Stubbornness, Moses had to create the DIVORCE Law (written agreement for permanent separation) for those who committed Fornication, Prostitution, Adultery, Physical/Mental severe abuses, alcoholism, drugs, gambling addictions, and incarceration (prison time) as their way out of their marriage vows, and free to marry again... On Judgment day of thy Lord, God... Woe to those who divorce their spouses... Amen.
Foolish.
@@johnseifert9189 Sir, can you enlighten me, as to why you think my comment is foolish?
@@jvlp2046 you're comment on woe to those who divorce their spouses. You put a heavy burden on those people who divorce. God is God of forgiveness. I haven't divorced anyone but i am divorced. My spouse stole what money was in the bank and was sleeping with her the eye doctor she worked with, 2 abortions. And if I remarry "woe to me". In that case it would be better to murder her and get God's forgivness and then remarry because she is dead. Simply unreal and by the way i'm saved since 1980
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he cannot for the wolves in sheep clothes do not teach that.....Acts 20:29-30 wolves seek disciples after themselves.
Moses had to write ✍️ down this law. I’m still learning Gods words
Once marriage is consummated, sexual sin is adultry. Before is fornication. I'll save the word games, Biblical examples are Joseph n Mary and sermon on the mount. You can seperate if it's clearly needed, but you must remain celibate. Scripture is scripture, you can manipulate it any way you want. Heres another scripture, DO YOU NOT KNOW YOU BODY IS A TEMPLE FOR THE HOLY SPIRIT? pastor. Love to see you debate P Gino Jennings. Your in error sir.
@@lmatthews4JESUSmyLORD thoroughly studied here. You can only MANIPULATE the scripture to get a trinity it doesnt endorse. Jesus is that I AM. The biblical explanation of NO TRINITY(that the Bible Never speaks of) is much stronger than any arguement for a trinity. But thanks for your concern. I doubt eternity rests on that doctrinal difference, but I am a BIBLE believer, not a denominational goat.
This is very interesting to me. But you want to be careful, especially as a woman, to not misuse emotional abuse. As a woman, our hormones can get in the way of controlling our emotions. Emotional abuse can be a “catch all” reason to get out of a marriage.
Man or woman. Everyone has been abused in some form or another. Who judges whether or not that is grounds for divorce.
1 Cor 7:11 says what happens during and after divorce. Steps to be taken.
@@davidschaffrick3961 One verse does not cover the whole subject. How about the man who committed fraud, lied to woman and her family. Then they find out she is not married to whom she thinks. The bigamist? The adulterer. In that culture the adulterer was put to death, so the innocent party was afterward free. But not in our culture. In our culture the wife victim would spend the rest of her life a poor victim. In any court in Israel, at that time, divorce was granted to the woman for physical abuse. Does God think she should go back to being a punching bag, or that she should simply accept childless abject poverty for the rest of her life. Wife beaters do not as a rule change. You simply cannot take a complex subject like divorce and give one sentence. Clearly that would be the ideal, but laws don’t work that way. Even murder had stoning or flight to a city of refuge. Even Jesus, in Matt19:9, left the exception of fornication. His was not a whole dissertation either. The Pharisees were trying to trap him (concerning Herod most likely), and he was answering them. The Jews and the church have treated women like second class citizens forever. If they were beaten or abused, well they should just try harder. I don’t believe for one minute that Jesus taught that. Mary learned at his feet. He cared about his mother. But the church translations of Scripture have always reflected that second class attitude. Like “helpmeet” in Genesis. The same word in Kings referring to King Hiram is translated “ally”. The church deliberately tried to align Scripture with the Greek philosophers, who thought women were probably a little higher than cattle, but they weren’t completely sure about it. (University of Paris, Thomas Aquinas). And of course after the first 100 or so years church leadership was completely taken over by men, traditionally using deliberate mistranslations of St Paul. I think that the big shock in Heaven will be to find that God didn’t make half of the human race lesser. Cain and Abel were children of Eve as well as Adam And God never punished the daughters of Eve who were also daughters of Adam because they happened to be female like their mother. Punishing the innocent for another’s sin isn’t like him. But he will punish those who misused or twisted his Word to promote injustice. He hates lies and injustice.
You judging others based on their reasons for divorce? Arnt you all not supposed to judge others? I guess we pick and choose what rules to follow.
@@dylan15243 nowhere in the bible does it say not to judge. the whole "judge not lest yee be judged" line is usually taken out of context. The context in that verse structure is simply a warning that "hey, you're gonna be judged too, so be careful on judging willy nilly and being too high and mighty". NOT that we shouldnt' be judging. We are most definitely allowed to judge
Fornication (Porneia) means sexual immorality of any kind which includes homosexuality, incest, adultery or bestiality. Jesus was speaking to the adulterous relationship between Herod Antipas & Herodias to which his cousin John the baptizer spoke out against and was beheaded. Not one time did Jesus ever teach against the Torah.
I want to applaud the Pastor for telling people that they don't have to stay in an abusive marriage even if no infidelity is involved. I will say that I no longer believe the entire Bible is the inerrant, inspired word of God for many reasons, but I do take marriage vows seriously. One of the reasons I question the accuracy of many things we read in the Bible is that the New Testament was written in Greek, but Jesus and his followers spoke Aramaic. In Pastor Allen's discussion he makes the distinction between the Greek words used for fornication and adultery, but what is the meaning of the words when Jesus spoke these words in the original Aramaic and was anything lost in translation?
The "silent treatment" is abuse, too
Wow! the difference in meaning does makes a difference! The English interpretation skims the true and deep meaning of the Hebrews. Deep
Agreed. Porneia means immorality. The permanence view actually encourages adultery by removing the punishment for it instituted by Jesus Christ Himself. There are two exception clauses, in Matthew 19:9 and in Matthew chapter five verse 32, and you CANNOT REMOVE THOSE VERSES FROM THE BIBLE. They are there to MAKE CERTAIN THAT MARRAIGES ARE BOTH HOLY AND UNDEFILED. In the Bible days, the penalty for immorality was the death penalty. If the adulterer was stoned to death, the innocent party was not also stoned to death, and would be free to remarry. Adultery is serious business to God, and defiles a marriage. If the adulterer is rewarded for their actions by no penalty for immoral behavior, immoral behavior is encouraged, and accepted as a normal part of a marriage. The unconscionable acceptance of adultery in marriage that is promoted by the permanence doctrine's removal of the exceptions instituted by Jesus Christ Himself are an abomination to God, making a mockery of holiness in marriage by forcing an innocent spouse to "put up with" adultery on the part of a betraying, lying, deceiving, and unfaithful cheating spouse.
I agree that the parameters for divorce and remarriage given by Jesus are very, very narrow as given in Matthew 19:9, but the exception for a betrayed husband is very much present, and real in the same scripture. The general rules against divorce and remarriage given by Jesus are very much valid, as are the exceptions twice given in Matthew. We are to believe, obey and apply both the general rules and the exceptions as given by Jesus, as they are all His Word, and one does not invalidate the other.
Somehow this message misses the truth…
Actually fornication / adultery is not a reason to divorce.. if you read it further, it's if that person doesn't change their actions and keeps cheating on their spouse then you divorce. If it's repeated and that person refuses to change, bc marriage is the symbol of how we are to be married to the Lord and show honor and respect to our partner.
Do you interpret the Pastor to be advocating divorce after one offense for which the offender honestly repents and asks forgiveness. The offender has no intention of continuing to fornicate and act in direct opposition to the marriage contract.
@@sharondoan1447 yeah , isn't that what he's saying, to divorce after one offense? Or did I miss interpret him?
Let me say this… one act of Adultery per the Law of Moses would end in the ones who did the crime of adultery to be stoned to death. Deuteronomy 22 and 24 explain this. Where are people getting this “continued” sin from as the only cause?
@@kcdav7 and that's why God sent Christ Jesus to take the punishment for us, so there is no reason to even refer to that mosaic law. We don't live by the new or old testament but both.. Jesus completed it . Made it whole his death and resurrection changed everything and God would not kill or enforce that old testament law bc of his son taking on the consequences of sin... Love does not kill. Jesus is God and God is love. Not tolerable of sin but pure and righteous loving merciful graceous and kind. Focus on that.
@@josephrisso2254 clearly you are not involved in a bad marriage. That is what this pastor is discussing, the subject of this video. If someone was using you for a punching bag daily, you would need to know your options. God is indeed love, but many people, even some who say they are Christians, behave violently toward their spouses and children. These victims have been told by churches for years that they have no way out. This pastor is helping them.
Thank you so much for these words! ❤
Thank you for taking the time to explain this. What a God send to so many.
That is not good teaching! According to you, divorce can happen for any little disagreement.
False teaching!
This has to be one of the greatest heresies in church history. A Greek word was added by Erasmus to change the meaning of the verse. It should read who ever divorces even over pornia and remarries commits adultery.
But he also said “anyone who divorces his wife commits adultery and makes her commit adultery..”…. Unless I’m mistaken if I am forgive me.
If you mean Jesus, in Matt 19, he said except for fornication. That is why the pastor is describing what the exceptions are.
Thank you Allen. This is much closer to the biblical truth than a lot of others I've heard on this matter. "Porneia" in this context is best read as a catch-all for any conduct that would be a material breach of the terms of the marital covenant.
Those who claim adultery is the only acceptable ground for divorce according to Jesus are slandering God. Incredibly, some even claim that "porneia" means only sexual misconduct during the engagement period! What do these people take God for!?
People who promote the Marriage Permanence Heresy boldly claim that the following is the "clear teaching of God":
Domestic violence is not a valid ground for divorce
Drug use is not a valid ground for divorce
Abandonment is not a valid ground for divorce *
Refusing sexual intimacy is not a valid ground for divorce
Attempted murder is not a valid ground for divorce
But adultery - and adultery alone - is a valid ground for divorce
* Some people claim abandonment is a valid ground, but only if the abandoning spouse was an unbeliever. As if an abandoned wife is any less abandoned if her former husband claimed to be a follower of Jesus!
Common sense - not to mention common decency - should preclude anyone with an IQ above 75 from buying into this teaching.
This matter is especially important to me because of my own story. In September 2021, I was excommunicated from my place of worship for my so-called "unscriptural" divorce. They also held to the erroneous notion that although refusal to provide normal marital intimacy was sinful, it was not a biblically acceptable ground for divorce. I would have none of it.
Basically, I told them that my then-wife and I agreed to enter counseling to determine if there is a way forward. Plan A was to bring the marriage to where we needed it to be - and to hopefully address whatever issue is causing her to not want any kind of intimacy with me. If no such resolution could be found, then Plan B was to dissolve the marriage and for me to date and eventually remarry. I made it very clear to the leadership that although I wasn't feeling divorce, I would recognize no doctrine that claimed I am either forced to endure this treatment from my wife - or to be condemned to celibacy for the rest of my life. I offered to leave that assembly if my stand would pose a problem for them, but they told me it would not.
When I informed them that Plan A was a bust and we were on Plan B, they placed me under church discipline (after falsely assuring me that they would not). I refused to back down even though this refusal would guarantee my formal excommunication. The leadership of that assembly lost all credibility with me.
I haven't had a regular place of worship since.
The word FORNICATION is a modern terminology used to differentiate from ADULTERY... just like the modern terminology of Homosexuality...
Fornication in modern meaning is primarily "SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE"... But, did you know, that "SEXUAL UNION," of the single individual (man and woman, not husband and wife) even without the ceremonial marriage, is considered "Marriage by/at Heart" and considered by God as Binding Marriage for both single individuals?
If they make sex/love with another individual, they are already sinning ADULTERY in the Eyes of God...
God sees MARRIAGE differently from the Eyes of Man's viewpoint... For men, Marriage is primarily FORMALITIES of Signing Contract Document Agreements between both parties together with their Vows, which often come/accompany by a celebration/party to announce to the people their UNION... For God, Marriage is a SACRAMENT of the HEART for the "sexual union" of both hetero-male and hetero-female.
Amen💯
@@grant2149 Just to add additional Biblical Truth... the Sacrament of Marriage is also the Binding/Joining together of the Husband and Wife's "SPIRIT/SOUL" as ONE and the Same, just like the Father and the Son, United as One... That is why Christ Jesus does not allow Divorce in the first place but a temporary separation solution due to domestic violence, drug, and alcohol abuse, imprisonment, etc... Amen.
@@jvlp2046 A big Amen 💯 truth.
@@jvlp2046can you show me which verse says that man and wife are one soul? I see where it says the two become one FLESH.
@@scottwheeler3452 Biblically (Spiritually) speaking, "A BODY without a SOUL/SPIRIT is DEAD," (James 2:26)... "BODY + BREATH OF LIFE = LIVING SOUL... It is a SPIRITUAL Matter under the Sacrament of Matrimony / Marriage Vows... (ref. Gen. 1:24 / 2:7).
Logically and Literally speaking, the Physical Body can not be Literally ONE but can be Spiritually ONE. The Husband's (Male) Literal Body cannot be the Wife's (Female) Literal Body as LITERAL ONE, they are separate distinctive INDIVIDUAL Human Beings, however, they are SPIRITUALLY UNITED as ONE Living Soul (Flesh/Body + Spirit (breath of Life) = Living SOUL...
The SOUL is where the SPIRIT (breath of Life) DWELLS... St. Paul said, "The WORD of God is sharper than any sharpest 2 Edged Sword (Double Blade Sword), that can cuts/pierce dividing/separating between the SOUL from the SPIRIT... (ref. Hebrews 4:12)...
Analogy... the SOUL is like a WOMB, while the SPIRIT is like the UNBORN CHILD resting inside the WOMB... According to the Bible, when the FLESH (Living Soul) KEEPS on SINNING against God without true sincere repentance, the SPIRIT will leave the SOUL, and upon seeing by the Lurking Evil Spirits (Demons) an EMPTY SOUL, the POSSESSION takes place... Evil Spirits dwell on the Empty SOUL. (ref. Matt. 12:44-45).
Take Note #1: ... the Orginal Written Scripture (Word of God) was not written in the English Language... Sometimes, some words have NO EXACT equivalent meaning in the English Language... English Word/s have so many synonyms and antonyms compared to the Ancient Languages ... Historians, Theologians, and Translators have their hard time finding the closest equivalent meaning...
Some English Translations used the word FLESH as the Spiritual LIVING SOUL instead of BODY as Literal... Christ often used the word FLESH indicating an ALIVE BODY or LIVING SOUL...
Take Note #2:... Most of the Teachings of Christ Jesus are SPIRITUAL Metaphors and Symbolism... for example, the PARABLES, the KEYS to the Gates of Heaven, the SHAKING OFF the DUST from the Feet, the ROCK of the Church, MANSIONS in Heaven, carrying your CROSS, etc...
Facts and Truth of the Matter, Biblically and Logically speaking... Praise be to God in Christ Jesus... Amen and Amen.
We violate scripture when we leave the marriage even though it's dangerous. We are called to pray in faith God will move mountains. If the couple can't pray for healing in marriage then then the church body can pray for God's glory. This teaching is from the doctrines of demons. God's Word says to forgive. Marriage is for life according to Jesus. The only time divorce is permissible is if it is outside of God's ways.... homosexuality... incest... and anything else that is between a man and a woman. Easy test for my doctrine... if the world believes it then it's not of God.
What does the Bible say about gluttony? How come the church does not teach about this sin
Word: porneia
Pronounce: por-ni'-ah
Strongs Number: G4202
Orig: from 4203; harlotry (including adultery and incest); figuratively, idolatry:--sexual immorality. G4203
Use: TDNT-6:579,918 Noun Feminine
Heb Strong: H2183 H8457
1) illicit(unlawful) sexual intercourse
1a) adultery, sexual immorality, homosexuality, intercourse with animals etc.
1b) sexual intercourse with close relatives; Lev. 18
1c) sexual intercourse with an unlawfully divorced man or woman; Mr 10:11,12
2) metaph. the worship of idols
2a) of the defilement of idolatry, as incurred by eating the sacrifices offered to idols
2b) any form of idolatry
Yes, πορνείας means a lot more than just fornication.
@@ChristianTravelers Yes I agree with you, however no one should add more meaning to the Word of God and so falsifying it .
Ephesians 6
13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. 14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist …
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“Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.” (Deut. 4:2.)
Revelation 22:18-19
Louis Segond
18 Je le déclare à quiconque entend les paroles de la prophétie de ce livre: Si quelqu'un y ajoute quelque chose, Dieu le frappera des fléaux décrits dans ce livre;
19 et si quelqu'un retranche quelque chose des paroles du livre de cette prophétie, Dieu retranchera sa part de l'arbre de la vie et de la ville sainte, décrits dans ce livre.
And there is much more to Greek than Strongs Numbers
A lot of people not ready to preach
Christ said, God did not create the DIVORCE LAW, Moses did, due to the Stubbornness of Humanity... Amen.
The Bible said Holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
Facts!! The marriage law of Moses is dead.
@@willkinney8946 Not in other countries, like the USA... The Government ADOPTED, supported, and applied the DIVORCE LAW written by Moses during their Exodus from Egypt to their people (Jews)... The only difference, the Government's DIVORCE LAW was expanded into the lowest point of LOGICAL Reasoning of Mankind, which is the "IRREVOCABLE & IRREVERSIBLE DIFFERENCES."...
Christ Jesus talks about "TEMPORARY SEPARATION" only, for God knew, TIME heals wounds, for those who commit sexual infidelity or adultery, domestic violence, drug/alcohol abuses, gambling addiction and incarceration (imprisonment)... "anyone who marries a person who committed Adultery is also guilty of Adultery (Matt. 5:32/paraphrase)... Only thru Physical DEATH, they are FREE from their Marital Vows and can remarry if wishes... That is the "Original Law of God" without the Divorce law of Moses...
On judgment day of the Lord, thy God... WOE to those who divorced their SPOUSES and those who marry a divorced person... Facts and Truth, Biblically speaking... Amen.
God inspired all scripture, including the book of Deuteronomy. Of which is where you will find the content to which you are speaking. God did make a provision for divorce. In a way, God has been divorced. He would, on occasion, repudiate Israel after they did it to Him first. In other words, Israel committed adultery, fornication and idolatry. Did He sit around and keep taking it? No, He essentially divorced them. Then would reconcile once they would repent. He would not sit around and be henpecked. It's difficult for Westernized Christians, if they truly are one, understand the times past of biblical history and fact. The customs are strange and unfamiliar, therefore tend to be incorrect. Until you or anyone else fully understands Jewish customs, traditions, ways and laws that God Himself set up, you will never understand. You can't understand until you go to the land of where everything began.
Isn’t all Scripture inspired by God. What else should we leave out?
I got divorced after 8 years marriage he demanded a divorce. My heart is broken. His woman lawyer said he married me because he felt sorry for me. I called police when he yelled & threw styff because i was scared. Now i wonder if i over re acted? Ill always have love in my heart for edward he is the love of my life. He sees me says hes glad we are stull friends ( distant) he comes each week to walk our dog daisy who is now 11 years old.
I believe God if he's real. Is more understanding than others believe...
We have to belive he had good reason for some of the bad things he's done.. I think that trust should go both ways.
Pastor Nolan: The trouble we are having is that church congregations do NOT support marriage for life any longer. The general view is that when a judge slams down their gavel, this also ends the covenant. Of course, if one considers this, it could not be further from the truth. Preachers preach marriage for life from the pulpit, but yet they allow adulterers to congregate in their church assembly, even encouraging remarriage in the majority of evangelical contexts. It is clear we are commanded NOT to company with rebellious sinners, who call themselves Christians 1 Cor. 5:11, but yet the church welcomes them into their fellowship, with open arms and some even allow them to company with the singles ministry. Church assemblies often remarry folks who's spouse is still alive. The effect of this disobedience is clearly on display for all to see. The reality is this: THE CHURCH LOOKS JUST LIKE THE WORLD. The church is supposed to be transformed by the renewing of the mind, not conformed to this world. If you track HISTORY on the matter, you will see that when the church allowed the secular courts to break up marriages and families, that clearly this was the beginning of the end of MARRIAGE as we should know it.
I've never understood when guys say that preaching the word is their job I always understood it as in being a pastor or giving God's word is a vocation is the dedication that you do it is not a job you don't get paid for it Jesus didn't get paid for it
I don't see anything that equates Porneia to licentiousness. In the Greek it always referred to sexual immorality, which can then be translated to Fornication, which only means sexual immorality or figuratively, idolatry.
Now you can then use the word Licentiousness for Fornication as both are English words that mean sexual immorality. However, they didn't translate Porneia to licentiousness because it can also mean what you describe in terms of unacceptable societal behaviour.
What you are doing is hopping words to come up with a completely different meaning. IE take a Greek word that means sexual immorality, translate it to fornication which means sexual immorality and then hop over to licentiousness which also means sexual immorality with the express purpose of using it's alternate meaning of disregard for accepted rules and norms, which is not synonymous with Fornication.
Excatly
The point that all scripture concerning marriage is making goes over most people's heads because we approach the scriptures the wrong way. We are to base our beliefs on what the Bible says, not use the Bible to prove our beliefs are right. Why do we open God's word? Are we trying to learn the Truth or just confirm what we want it to say? What it actually says and what we think it says rarely are the same. Like in Romans 14, it's not about whether we as believers choose to eat/drink/celebrate certain days or things, it's about how our actions affect our fellow believers and neighbors. When you put all scriptures about divorce and marriage together, one point glares from it all...If a man and woman are married and they're both in the will of God, there's nothing they can't overcome with Christ being the anchor. Marriage is the earthly example of Christ and His bride. The Bible says if we stay close to Him, he will always make a way to escape the temptation of sin. That's why the Bible says a husband and wife only need to be apart for prayer, then quickly be back together. When a marriage is unequally yoked, it says if both are happy in the marriage, to stay married because the one out of God's will or lost may be more inclined to give their heart to Christ after witnessing the faithfulness of the other. God doesn't hold the believer responsible if doesn't work out because it says a believer is not to marry an unbeliever. It's referring to an originally unbelieving couple and then one accepts Christ. Let's not complicate God's perfect word to bend to our ego.
I'm sorry but this teaching is not sound. The preacher has stretched the word "pornea" well beyond the context of the teaching in Matthew.
Amen excatly.
Yes.
It is true, it was not PART of the Original Commandments of God given to Moses, but due to the HARDNESS/STUBBORNNESS of the Hearts of the Jews during their Exodus from Egypt, Moses allowed/permitted them (Jews) to "Permanently Separate" their wives and made/created the Written DIVORCE LAW narrated in Matt. 19:8... This Divorce Law written by Moses was intended only for the Husbands, divorcing their wives, not vice versa... in our Modern day Divorce, it was for both or vice versa now...
Therefore, the DIVORCE LAW of Moses is not for CHRISTIANS to apply and practice but only for "Temporary Separation" due to infidelity, addiction to drugs/alcohol/gambling, domestic violence/rape, and imprisonment only until they both decided to RECONCILE (Bind again) as Married Couples or thru the PASSING AWAY (Death) only, they are free from their Marriage Vows and can marry again if wishes... but... unfortunately how ironic, that in the USA, and some countries where Christians are the majority citizen...
The Modern-day DIVORCE LAW, even much expanded into the "lowest point of logical reasoning" of mankind, "The IRREVOCABLE & IRRECONCILABLE DIFFERENCES." ... Facts and Truth, Historically and Biblically speaking... Amen
@@allennolan The word FORNICATION is a modern terminology used to differentiate from ADULTERY... just like the modern terminology of Homosexuality...
Fornication in modern meaning is primarily "SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE"... But, did you know, that "SEXUAL UNION," of the single individual (man and woman, not husband and wife) even without the ceremonial marriage, is considered "Marriage by/at Heart" and considered by God as Binding Marriage for both single individuals?
If they make sex/love with another individual, they are already sinning ADULTERY in the Eyes of God...
God sees MARRIAGE differently from the Eyes of Man's viewpoint... For men, Marriage is primarily FORMALITIES of Signing Contract Document Agreements between both parties together with their Vows, which often come/accompany by a celebration/party to announce to the people their UNION... For God, Marriage is a SACRAMENT of the HEART for the "sexual union" of both hetero-male and hetero-female.
@@allennolan That is the main reason why the VIRGINITY of both Man and Woman is so important to God... for the moment both WILLFULLY make SEXUAL UNION, in the Eyes of God, they are already considered "Married by/at the Heart"... if they make sexual contact with another person, they are already sinning from God of ADULTERY...
In the Garden of Eden, when Eve was presented to Adam, God said all once, "be fruitful and multiply to fill the earth."...Have you noticed any Ceremonial Marriage Vows in the garden accompanied by a celebration/party?... NONE... God sees differently how the Sacrament of Marriage works... Facts and Truth, biblically speaking... Amen.
Biblically sound teaching on divorce. God speed.
The problem with your understanding of Marriage, divorce and remarriage, pastor, is that you neglect Christ's clear absolute about the inherent adultery of all remarriage after divorce, which He makes clear in Luke 16:18, when He declares that "Everyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery," Luke 16:18. It's easy to see that He makes that unconditional assertion before He was tested on this by the Pharisees; wherein, He states what you believe is an exception in Matthew 19:9 to what He had earlier declared, as recorded in Luke 16:18.
If we believe the Bible is the Word of God, then both statements must be absolutely true. That's the puzzle Scripture gives us and the solution to that puzzle is NOT ignoring one of the two statements and pretending it just isn't there.
God bless you.
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I appreciate your teaching so much! Can you provide resources for the Greek translation please?
A cursory review of the usual resources for Greek translation, such as Vine's, Strong's, Thayer's, etc...does not yield the definition that is being suggested. Perhaps, just one trusted resource used by Pastor Allen to arrive at this definition, would be beneficial and much-appreciated. Thank you.
@@allennolan No it's not helpful at all, we need the reference, too important to get it wrong!
Thank you...this is also stated again through paul..with believer and non believer....
Wow so good!
It's one thing to financially support but, my support wasn't good enough, we had everything we need but she still wasn't happy. What standard are we to uphold
Thank you pastor
This is the first time I am hearing this.. I know one of the Psalms speaks about a close associate who has broken the covenant.
This dad did everything! I understand youre saying that men dont have a choice to stay home but women do. My “christian wife” didnt want to be a mother or a wife as she stated therefore i was obligated to leave and was victimized by the courts because. Please speak to that she wanted to shred the family.
You can still stand for your marriage and pray for her. If she’s not in the will of God, she needs it.
fornication
G4202
G4202
Lemma:
πορνεία
Transliteration:
porneia
Pronunciation:
por-ni'-ah
Part of Speech:
Noun Feminine
Root Word (Etymology):
From πορνεύω G4203
Thayer Lexicon:
1. illicit sexual intercourse
a. adultery, fornication, homosexuality, lesbianism, intercourse with animals etc.
b. sexual intercourse with close relatives; Lev. 18
c. sexual intercourse with a divorced man or woman; Mar 10:11,Mar 10:12
2. metaphorically the worship of idols
a. of the defilement of idolatry, as incurred by eating the sacrifices offered to idols
Strong’s Definitions:
From πορνεύω G4203; harlotry (including adultery and incest); figuratively idolatry: - fornication.
Occurrences in Bible:
26
Occurrences in Verses: 25
KJV usage:
fornication (26x).
Wait! It's missing the "RULES OF MARRIAGE" pastor! You know, when you don't get enough sex, etc...DIVORCE is the allowed!!!
PLEASE!
@@lmatthews4JESUSmyLORD Amen... this pastor maybe referring to Satans 'Theological' dictionary! When it goes against the Word of God...what else can it be... The Word of God is clear!
Good video tyvm
That is NOT what porneia means and you should NOT twist scripture to justify your opinion. It is ONLY God’s opinion that counts and it is a sexual sin and is where our word pornography comes from. Most marriages do end because of sexual sin or abuse - both of which are justified because they are both evil offenses to the spouse you have been spiritually joined with.
I’d like to ask Paul one question: IF he says, remarriage is a sin, THEN, Where is Jesus’ atonement of our sins...?? Why are we held liable for the rest of the lives after His perfect atonement, which stops us from making an action of marriage that is normally a blessing....?? Could you teach me in place of Paul???
It doesn't seem to be a PERPETUAL sin. The Lord has sent new spouses into the lives of many divorced Christians; they sought His direction. There are many evangelists/teachers happily remarried for decades and God has blessed their lives and ministries.❤ I think the church has shunned remarried Christians for too long.
Viewers make sure you research this for yourselves. Porneia is definitely sexual activity.
Porneia is not outside of sexual activity unless it is used metaphorically….. which it is not in this scripture.
Viewer you need to ask where he exactly gets his Greek definitions of Porneia and Moichao.
@@allennolan Strongs Concordance and Blue Letter Bible differ on your interpretation. G4202 Porneia and it’s root word G4203 Porneuo definitely deal with sexual activity only. It revolves around harlotry.
The word “Porn” logically says what these words are referring to.
Could you show in other scriptures where fornication could not possibly be talking about sexual activity other than any metaphorical scriptures to help us better understand your interpretation and logic?
Thanks
@@allennolan
Gerhard Kittel (23 September 1888 - 11 July 1948) was a German Lutheran[1] theologian and lexicographer of biblical languages. He was an enthusiastic supporter of the Nazis[5] and an open antisemite.[6] He is known in the field of biblical studies for his Theologisches Wörterbuch zum Neuen Testament (Theological Dictionary of the New Testament).
Source: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerhard_Kittel
I’d rather not take advice from Gerhard Kittel.
I believe the definition you are using for fornication is actually G766 asélgeia (from aselgēs/"brutal") - properly, violent spite which rejects restraint and indulges in lawless insolence (wanton caprice). [Definition: licentiousness, wantonness] but the word used in Mark πορνεία porneia is from G4203; harlotry (including adultery and incest); figuratively idolatry: - fornication. So it sounds like you are applying the definition of asélgeia to porneia?
Hmmm.... I'm not completely sure he didn't use that one also. Great research on your part, thank you.
If that's the definition of fornication, then wouldn't it be easy for anyone thats in a marriage to say they feel abused, even if it's not really abuse?
They wouldn’t be fooling God. And that is who this is about. He is answering the question: Do I offend God if I leave the man who is beating me to a pulp every day? Can I never have children and a husband and a normal life afterwards?
NO-we can't fool God -he knows all. Our hearts, minds, motives and situations- he knows it all.
Hi Pastor. The context of the divorce debate in this message seems narrow. When I read scripture broadly, the emerging theme was that people are unfaithful to God. God is faithful. God created marriage, the first relationship to live in faithfulness ( one of the fruits of the spirit)
So many times man has turned away from God being unfaithful. There is theological debate and consequences in scripture for not keeping the marriage covenant. Deut 17:17 was the decree, then 1 Kings 11:3, Hebrews 13:4, Malachi 2:16. These scriptures counsel on the consequences. 2 Samuel 12:9-16 was the consequence of adultery. Literally there was coveting, then adultery, then murder. King David was given a judgement of consequences to his choice. A kingdom of bloodshed and rape amongst his children. His sons embarrassed him by sleeping with his wives. God is faithful, his word instructs and counsels. King David writes in psalms of his repentance for those choices. Psalm 51:3 “… my sin is ever before me…” Psalm 51:13 he wanted us to learn from his mistakes so we can be converted to God.
Please read about the consequences in Jeremiah 23:14, 1 Corinthians 6:9, Galatians 5:19-21, Jude 1:7. Revelations 21:8 Many accounts of the consequences in the book of Isaiah.
Matthew 12:39 “evil adulterous generation “ John 8:34 says “willfully commit sin and servant of sin” 1 Corinthians 6:18 fornication is a sin against our own body.
1 Corinthians 7:16 says the believing spouse may intercede for the unsaved spouse.
In regards to the offended spouse to leave the sinning spouse and remarry means there is no redemption. Jesus spoke thoroughly about forgiveness. No one should be abused or abandoned or cheated on. Yet we are all sinners. We all have to seek God all the time. The biblical law actually shows us we can’t keep the law in our own strength that is why we need Christ.
Romans 12:2 be not conformed. Mark 10:9 “What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.” Proverbs 30:12 etc.
Galatians 3:24 clarifies the purpose of the biblical laws you are debating and dissecting.
I pray that anyone thinking about practicing divorce seek God’s word and counsel about deliverance redemption forgiveness long suffering and the many benefits of intercession and prayer for the unsaved hard hearted. An adulterous or abusive spouse is spiritually sick. If the same spouse had physical sickness we would pray for their healing. In the same way we can pray for the healing from spiritual sickness. God heals. Divorce is when we choose to take it out of God’s hands. Jesus saved the adulterous woman from death, Jesus taught that the prodigal son was redeemed, Jesus delivered the woman at well and she did what King David did. Testified of God’s love.
Infidelity and abuse hurts. Seek safety from violence and assault yes. Seek safety and then intercede in prayer and let God deal with the abuser. Face the infidelity and confess it to God, He sees. Be faithful to God. God is El-roi he sees and he hurts too when we hurt each other and then seek vengeance. He is our healer Jehovah-Rophe, not the law of divorce.
Psalm 34:18
“The LORD is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; And saveth such as be of a contrite spirit.”
Yours is a bunch of theological WORDS and has nothing to do with reality. When children are raped by their parent, it is time to take that parent out of their life. Period. When a man a foot taller than you knocks your teeth loose, it’s time to go. Neither of these personality types change. Theological debates around shiny tables in cloistered halls have NOTHING to do with what happens to REAL PEOPLE. When the children weep from the abuse, or the woman, God is there, but YOU aren’t. YOU DONT GET IT. So keep on reading Scripture broadly. Maybe you won’t have to face the harsh realities that others do face. But frankly your theological BS offends me.
I Corinthian 7:15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace. God agrees to a separation. If he or she is abusive verbally, mentally or physically no God don't want you to be in harm's way. If you two can not dwell under the same roof without conflict. Then you can separate but you must remain unmarried. And if she want to have sexual intercourse she must be reconciled to her husband. God's rule 1 Corinthians 7:11 But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife. God knew all this would happen and these liars would try and tell you that divorce was justified if he cheats or she beats him. Or irreconcilable differences. If amazing how they run to the greek language to use words for the KJV BIBLE in order to justify what they want. The KJV BIBLE Has been around for centuries now you are saying it's wrong in its phase. Come on. What God has set in order is LAW. Satan and man are trying to change it. God said I am a God that change not, heaven and earth shall pass away but my word will not pass away.
I'd really like to see where he gets his definition of Pornea from, cuz it's not jiving with the well respected lexicons that I know of.
Kittels New Testament Theological Dictionary, Volume 6
How about mental and emotional abandonment. Neglecting to Love and care for your spouse because of sickness isn't fulfilling the marriage covenant.
Neither lying, cheating and stealing 😒.
When your protector fails to protect your life following those before, it's time to run and not walk!
I was a widower I met a woman who’s x husband put her in the hospital he slammed her against the car and will not change
my late wife was A Jewish Jesus believer she prayed that I would find someone and love her twice as much I took this woman in as my wife were on the mission field as I was before the last 20 yrs with my late wife.
Here friends and family say she looks years younger her growth in the lord is expanding she is no longer afraid
We went to Israel for are honeymoon and met people I there from my late wife’s side.
And did a Katuba a Jewish marriage contract on the Sea of Galilee as a show of love with are friends there that couldn’t make are marriage in the U.S
My husband... I asked God for a sign, nevermind he left me for a prostitute half our age 3yrs ago, a sign of whether i should divorce or not 😂 its bc i love him still, ya know. My justification for hanging on. I havent seen him in 2yrs, they have a child, i was unable to concieve during our 15yrs together, but he refused to sign. So i paid extra money to have notices published in the newspaper this month. He wont see or respond to them so i can get the divorce without his signature. But i STILL asked God just TODAY to give me a sign, or stop the divorce if He didnt want it to happen 😂 and sure enuff my husband text me at 5am, some nonsense. I believe this sermon is my sign. Head over heart decisions are hard, but necessary, bc God doesnt want any of His children to suffer at the hands of someone elses hateful heart. It doesnt make us martyrs, it makes us fools.
There are so many interpretations of divorce and remarriage, it's unreal!