The Flash: Reverse Flash Timeline Explained

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  • Опубликовано: 16 ноя 2024

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  • @SrEobardThawne
    @SrEobardThawne 5 лет назад +2657

    Headache, here we go!

    • @OnBrandRP
      @OnBrandRP 5 лет назад +44

      Pretty much. For once my mind wasn't completely destroyed by a flash video.

    • @TevyaSmolka
      @TevyaSmolka 5 лет назад +19

      Sr. Eobard Thawne lol indeed

    • @reverseflash5469
      @reverseflash5469 5 лет назад +36

      Seems like I’ve already been here

    • @SrEobardThawne
      @SrEobardThawne 5 лет назад +29

      @@reverseflash5469 hello time remnant

    • @OnBrandRP
      @OnBrandRP 5 лет назад +12

      @@reverseflash5469 Even Thawne loses track of his plans.

  • @jonathanshaw9704
    @jonathanshaw9704 5 лет назад +1809

    Thawne can’t resist a good Crisis.

    • @alejandrocortes1878
      @alejandrocortes1878 5 лет назад +11

      Jonathan Shaw facts

    • @bobafett5764
      @bobafett5764 5 лет назад +11

      No he cant Can he

    • @bobafett5764
      @bobafett5764 5 лет назад +18

      @@alejandrocortes1878 hello time Remnant.

    • @youcanrestnow5066
      @youcanrestnow5066 5 лет назад +17

      Reverse Flash not time remnant. He is a future version of you who has come back here to meet you! Previous you!

    • @edwardcastro3509
      @edwardcastro3509 5 лет назад +7

      He can't resist my ass

  • @Agent_3141
    @Agent_3141 5 лет назад +1278

    Fan: So how is Thawne still alive if he's died multiple times?
    CW: Yes

    • @nitrosystem6635
      @nitrosystem6635 5 лет назад +4

      @SuGaRlOvErCaNdY the joke or ...

    • @94Central
      @94Central 5 лет назад +7

      Yes

    • @TheAwsomeManny
      @TheAwsomeManny 5 лет назад +15

      It’s because the thawne we know is from the OG timeline so that Eobard never got erased that’s why

    • @2ndairborneguy790
      @2ndairborneguy790 5 лет назад +2

      Kovar: Nothing ever really dies

    • @robbyhenton8038
      @robbyhenton8038 5 лет назад +6

      The one we have seen die is the end of thawnes life, then the other thawnes have been previous versions of that thawne whose time line has now been affected so he can have a new death, this system repeats it self for each new death....
      I think...

  • @douglasrau5094
    @douglasrau5094 5 лет назад +2162

    Poor Eddie Thawne. His noble sacrifice was utterly, utterly meaningless.

    • @Duni4ever22
      @Duni4ever22 5 лет назад +239

      Douglas Rau should have gotten a vasectomy instead

    • @elcuh9976
      @elcuh9976 5 лет назад +20

      @@Duni4ever22 lmaooo

    • @SK-nc5ji
      @SK-nc5ji 5 лет назад +145

      That's not true... if he didn't do that then eaobard would have killed team flash
      Yes it thane killing himself didnt do what he intended it to but it served a purpose

    • @athrillcalledphill7639
      @athrillcalledphill7639 5 лет назад +13

      And forgotten

    • @avengerofthedead142
      @avengerofthedead142 5 лет назад +57

      @@Duni4ever22 What if he just, like.. bought a ticket to fucking Hawaii so that he could never meet RF great great Grandma or whatever and have an entire different set of kids. Or what if he just swore off sex in that singular moment before RF kills barry.

  • @JGGuitarCovers
    @JGGuitarCovers 5 лет назад +784

    Tom Cavanagh is the best actor in this show by miles

    • @keynight7513
      @keynight7513 5 лет назад +35

      Johnny Gartland joe is really good too. And underrated.

    • @ruturajchothe5516
      @ruturajchothe5516 5 лет назад +20

      @@keynight7513
      Dude does nothing but point his service pistol to every fucking meta.
      And yes his big daddy boring pep talks

    • @Mr_Green1017
      @Mr_Green1017 5 лет назад +6

      Matt Letscher is better

    • @pjatm_
      @pjatm_ 5 лет назад +4

      God Speed no

    • @fariayasmin
      @fariayasmin 5 лет назад +5

      Agreed. Tom is amazing ❤

  • @jonathan3488
    @jonathan3488 5 лет назад +482

    Timeline : *Exists*
    Reverse Flash : *I'm gonna end this man's whole career*

    • @glauberzx8860
      @glauberzx8860 4 года назад +13

      Barry Allen: HOLD MY BEER!!

    • @pringlesthe3rd395
      @pringlesthe3rd395 4 года назад +3

      Lol

    • @dNEARb
      @dNEARb 4 года назад

      Savatar: killer Frost cmon we still have to make me god and exist in every moment of every timeline(essentially IMMORTAL!)
      Timeline: eh
      Also savatar: alrighty so do we use this Splicer...

    • @myles3856
      @myles3856 3 года назад

      True

  • @emi6071
    @emi6071 5 лет назад +510

    The Reverse Flash Timeline
    He was born in 2151, he grew up admiring the flash, it became his idol. He became so obsessed that he replicated the secuence of events that made the flash on himself. He became a speedster himself, just like the flash. After some time, he realized that his destiny was to become the opposite of the flash, a reverse. So he traveled back in time to kill barry, multiple times. Either one of them was strong enough to kill the other. So Eobard traveled back in time to try to find out who the flash actually is. In one of his travels he was successful, and he knew that the flash is CSI Barry Allen. Then, in the crisis of 2024, he went back to the year 2000 to try to kill barry as a kid, but future barry followed him back. They had a fight in the Allen's house. Then, future barry takes his younger self to a safe place. Eobard was so mad, so he proceeded to kill Barry's mother, thinking that a tragedy like that would leave him so traumatized that he would never become the flash. But then, when Eobard tried to run back to his time, he noticed that without the flash, the speedforce left his body and had no way to go back. Knowing that he had to stay it that time for a while, he killed Harrison Wells and took his appearance. He did that so that he could speed up the creation of S.T.A.R. labs and the flash. 15 years later, the particle accelerator exploded, spreading a big wave of dark matter throughout the city. Then, a lightning bolt hit Barry allen in his lab.
    With the combination of dark matter and lightning, barry became flash, the fastest man alive. Eobard (with the appearance of Harrison Wells, very known scientist) trained barry allen so that he could be fast enought to send him back to his time. After a year of training and being very close friends with the people at S.T.A.R. labs, barry found out that his idol Harrison Wells/Eobard Thawne, was the man who killed his mother. Then eobard told barry that he could go back and save his mother with one condition, he had to send Eobard back to his time. Even though barry was so mad that the man that he had been working with for over a year was actually his biggest enemie and the man who killed his mother, he agreed to send him back.
    So he did, he opened a portal and went back to the year 2000 to save his mom and Eobard got in a time sphere to go back to his time. When barry got to the house where his mother was killed, he encountered the future barry that came behind eobard to try to stop him. He told barry to go back so he did. He went back to 2015 before Eobard left and punched the time sphere breaking it in pieces. Eobard was so mad since flash decided not to save his mother. They started to fight. But before eobard killed barry a gunshot was heard. It was eddie thawne, an ancestor of eobard. He killed himself so that Eobard would never exist. Then eobard faded away since he was now erased from existance.
    Then, a year later, a timeline remnant of eobard traveled to 2016 to try to find out who the flash really is. This is confusing because he was supposed to be erased out of existance. But since he is from the future, his timeline hasn't started yet, so he can still come back and restart the process all over again. The flash defeated him and locked him up in the pipeline. But that started to affect the timeline. Then the timeline started to affect one of the members of team flash, cisco ramon. Knowing this he gets eobard and throws him back to his time. Then after an evil speedster called Zoom kills Barry's father, barry decides to go back to the year 2000 and stop eobard from killing his mother. Because of that a new timeline was created called Flashpoint. In this timeline, barry grew up with both of his parents and has eobard locked up. After a while, barry starts to loose his memories from the original timeline so he gets eobard and sends him back to 2000 to kill Barry's mom and erase Flashpoint to go back to the original timeline. Then eobard just leaves. After traveling more in time he gets chased by the black flash. Since eddie thawne killed himself, he is no longer supposed to exist, so, he became a paradox. Eventually, black flash catches up to eobard and kills him, erasing him from existance again.
    You may think that that is the end of it, but no. He manages to survive being erased off of existance by using the negative speed force to sheild himself. Then, he finds his way over to Earth X and joins overgirl and dark arrow in their invasion of earth 1. After being defeated barry just lets him get away. Then back in earth one, in 2034, 10 years after flash disappeared in the crisis of 2024, eobard gets captured in iron heights. Cicada's dagger was dampening his powers. But then, the 2018 flash with his daughter Nora go back to 2015 to talk to that eobard and have him fix a tool that will dampen cicada's dark matter. After knowing this, eobard elaborated a plan and gained Nora's trust in 2049, a little bit before his death sentence. He told her to do a sequence of events that will get the dagger destroyed. A couple of minutes before Eobard's death sentence, the dagger gets destroyed in 2018 so it doesn't exist anymore in 2049 therefore, Eobard goes free. Then he has a race with 2018 flash and his daughter Nora. After all those changes in the timeline, Nora starts to get eraded out of existance. Then the eobard leaves after telling barry that he'll see him in the next crisis.

    • @Adisikeeee
      @Adisikeeee 4 года назад +86

      Nice congrats how f******* long did that take you

    • @qwest500
      @qwest500 4 года назад +8

      F

    • @banned2911
      @banned2911 4 года назад +6

      EmilianoBreadstick thanks

    • @peterstafford26
      @peterstafford26 4 года назад +25

      Mad respect, but if the reverse flash who was stuck in flashpoint and hunted by black flash was the one to kill Barry's mother, then how did Barry learn to use his speed cause there was no eobard that got stuck and became Harrison Wells ?

    • @lilchicken7317
      @lilchicken7317 4 года назад +20

      @@peterstafford26 because barry stopped reverse flash from killing his mom , therefore he still had his powers intact , I think Barry Learned how to use his powers because he didnt lose his memories of the ORIGINAL timeline , ( the timeline where barry knew that Reverse flash killed his Mother )

  • @dramonmaster222
    @dramonmaster222 5 лет назад +677

    And this is why the Reverse is not the Flash's but one of the best villains ever.

    • @AvatarWindy
      @AvatarWindy 5 лет назад +41

      Personally, I hold Eobard Thawne as one of the greatest villains in all of fiction.

    • @joshualee272
      @joshualee272 5 лет назад +26

      @@AvatarWindy i love how he calculates everything. He is a genius, i dont know how barry ever beat him or created gideon because the grant gustin flash needs help just to tie his shoes let alone creating a sentient AI or defeating a speedforce criminal like thawne who created his own speedforce dimension and powers

    • @mr.flubberblubbersprinkles8163
      @mr.flubberblubbersprinkles8163 5 лет назад +7

      joshua lee I know, I hated all that “we are the flash Barry” like stfu Iris

    • @Hesreallhim
      @Hesreallhim 5 лет назад

      Kevin Jones Facts

    • @Hesreallhim
      @Hesreallhim 5 лет назад +2

      He’s literally the ultimate villain. He calculates everything and has the means to put it into action. A lot of villains don’t have both

  • @pexdon23
    @pexdon23 5 лет назад +2492

    They made reverse flash a better character than barry

    • @themanplan987
      @themanplan987 5 лет назад +169

      Yeah idk if its just how good of an actor Tom is at this point or they make sure they dont mess him up.

    • @nesano4735
      @nesano4735 5 лет назад +74

      Duh. I don't know of a single character that has a time fuck plot as dense as this.

    • @izzyusagi
      @izzyusagi 5 лет назад +26

      well yes, but actually yes

    • @eziozander8920
      @eziozander8920 5 лет назад +54

      TheVision Tom really is the best actor on the flash imo thawne really is the greatest character on the show

    • @eobardthawne7126
      @eobardthawne7126 5 лет назад +4

      Alex Persaud So true.

  • @daniel_ghax
    @daniel_ghax 5 лет назад +402

    Why does Thawn always wisper/scream, but never talkes normaly...?

    • @Dan-jp7oc
      @Dan-jp7oc 5 лет назад +27

      Bruh moment

    • @kyshawntv6285
      @kyshawntv6285 5 лет назад +34

      Daniel Kröber The actor is on point.

    • @chobochobus
      @chobochobus 5 лет назад +52

      whispering is way creepier

    • @DarkEclipse23
      @DarkEclipse23 5 лет назад +33

      Probably because barry ruined talking by being emotional xD so being his ‘reverse’ he talks calm in low voice and short booming commanding voice.

    • @hattthecat
      @hattthecat 5 лет назад +16

      That's just how Tom Cavanagh differentiates the different characters he plays

  • @ruthriviera95
    @ruthriviera95 5 лет назад +70

    Like what Savitar said in season 3 of The Flash, " See that's the thing about time travel the more you do it. The less the rules apply to you."

    • @harrambou9468
      @harrambou9468 3 года назад +9

      That’s the thing about time travel, Barry. The rules in this show? They’re bullshit! 😀

  • @gagevannuys1586
    @gagevannuys1586 5 лет назад +133

    At 9:50 in this video and on the Flash season 5 finally he kinda sounds like Oliver Queen

    • @jimkirk216
      @jimkirk216 5 лет назад +2

      Gage Van Nuys frrrrr

    • @bobafett5764
      @bobafett5764 5 лет назад +2

      He does know how to manipulate time the only one even zoom and savitar failed we all know barry and nora failed there too lol.

  • @itsstizzychid5206
    @itsstizzychid5206 5 лет назад +63

    I like how you followed up "Neither one being able to defeat the other with "frustrated with being defeated over and over again"

    • @Mukation
      @Mukation 5 лет назад +3

      Flash was able to survive Thawnes attacks, but Flash was never able to contain Thawne.

    • @darrengordon-hill
      @darrengordon-hill 3 года назад

      THIS

  • @dazzag371
    @dazzag371 5 лет назад +49

    I think that black flash trapped eobard in the speedforce
    And eobard escaped when Cisco opened the speedforce in s4 to allow Barry to escape
    When you get erased you glow white/blue - eobard in s1 and Savitar and Nora
    You get sent to speedforce when you glow orange/yellow- Barry in s2 when he tries to get powers back
    Wally-s3 when he gets sent to speedforce
    Eobard when he gets caught by black flash

    • @itzmrinyy7484
      @itzmrinyy7484 5 лет назад +2

      You have the third eye

    • @MastarNinja
      @MastarNinja 5 лет назад

      That could actually make sense. Specially with the explication to how he kept his memory through the timeline changes.

    • @dazzag371
      @dazzag371 5 лет назад +1

      MastarNinja we also see coffee rise from a cup when Barry escapes the speedforce
      Liquid rises when reverse flash is near

    • @dazzag371
      @dazzag371 5 лет назад

      MastarNinja also Barry comes out writing the speedforce language
      The only other person to write that is thawne

    • @keynight7513
      @keynight7513 5 лет назад +1

      Dazza G This entire video is wrong, and let me explain... When eobard fixes flashpoint with Barry, he goes back to the past to relive his 15 year plan to go back to the future as we see in s1. Although, this time eobard knows that he will die to Eddie and Barry and takes precautions in order to live, this time with information. He then assembled his group in legends of tomorrow in order to stop himself from dying using the spear of destiny, although, the black flash absorbs him into the speed force, and he is trapped in there with Barry at the end of s3. After Cisco creates the device to release Barry from the speed force, than manages to escape as well, this time surviving, but later being imprisoned in 2043, effectively setting the plot for s5. Keep in mind that this eobard is still the time remnant from flashpoint.

  • @TevyaSmolka
    @TevyaSmolka 5 лет назад +287

    Thawne reverse flash can’t resist messing with the timeline always.

  • @nightwing6963
    @nightwing6963 5 лет назад +292

    the only one question i will like to know is who captured Reverse Flash and place Reverse Flash in prision

    • @keynight7513
      @keynight7513 5 лет назад +41

      Darth Bane This entire video is wrong. When eobard fixes flashpoint with Barry, he goes back to the past to relive his 15 year plan to go back to the future as we see in s1. Although, this time eobard knows that he will die to Eddie and Barry and takes precautions in order to live, this time with information. He then assembled his group in legends of tomorrow in order to stop himself from dying using the spear of destiny, although, the black flash absorbs him into the speed force, and he is trapped in there with Barry at the end of s3. After Cisco creates the device to release Barry from the speed force, than manages to escape as well, this time surviving, but later being imprisoned in 2043, effectively setting the plot for s5. Keep in mind that this eobard is still the time remnant from flashpoint.

    • @JoshuaWilkesR
      @JoshuaWilkesR 5 лет назад +10

      @@keynight7513 glad I'm not the only one who saw that theory

    • @CASH_111
      @CASH_111 5 лет назад +3

      @@keynight7513 i think that it's the original Eobard because he was from the speed force.

    • @keynight7513
      @keynight7513 5 лет назад +1

      GTuser the original eobard was erased from existence. That is characterized by a blue aura being released as he is dying instead of an orange aura.

    • @trueLuminus
      @trueLuminus 5 лет назад +1

      ​@Ammon Hansen No. For him, he only lived the 15 years once. Remember, he just came from murdering Barry's mom. He had to go back, in order for the timeline to fix. @kEy NiGht just worded it wrong.

  • @hextaniumfranklin79
    @hextaniumfranklin79 5 лет назад +138

    You want to know something more confusing than Thawnes timeline?
    The fact that this channel has less than 10M Subscribers.

  • @QikKryptic
    @QikKryptic 5 лет назад +122

    Nekminnit Nora comes back
    Barry: I SAW YOU DIE !
    Nora: Or did you ?

  • @cman7609
    @cman7609 5 лет назад +29

    There's just an infinite number of Eobard Thawne time remnants bouncing around the multiverse.

  • @fedeformichella713
    @fedeformichella713 5 лет назад +87

    1x01: Flash Missing, Vanished in Crisis 2024
    5x22: See you in our next Crisis..... -RF
    Also 5x22: Flash Missing, Vanished in Crisis 2019.....

    • @Dhruv-qw7jf
      @Dhruv-qw7jf 5 лет назад +9

      We didn't got to see what the newspaper actually said, we just got the year, the headline could be changed to "Arrow missing, vanishes in Crisis" now for all we know.

    • @fedeformichella713
      @fedeformichella713 5 лет назад

      @JavozREKZ / REKZboss i didnt say you didnt realise

    • @fedeformichella713
      @fedeformichella713 5 лет назад +1

      @@Dhruv-qw7jf but the text change a little but still it said the flash vanished in the article

    • @fedeformichella713
      @fedeformichella713 5 лет назад

      @JavozREKZ / REKZboss if you watch closely you will see the article changed, for example now it includes batwoman

    • @fedeformichella713
      @fedeformichella713 5 лет назад

      @Dezel Doherty did i force you to read it and answer it?

  • @kasperi1029
    @kasperi1029 5 лет назад +87

    You deserve atleast 2million subscribers

  • @masteraiex1778
    @masteraiex1778 5 лет назад +50

    Eobard gets erased twice from existence
    *Calls Eddie the one forgotten in history*

    • @Vary180
      @Vary180 5 лет назад +3

      😂

    • @cyberfox9713
      @cyberfox9713 4 года назад

      Technology he's lost in the future too

  • @worstteammate4377
    @worstteammate4377 5 лет назад +34

    "I only did what I had to do. Nothing more. Nothing less."

  • @thomaswatt99
    @thomaswatt99 5 лет назад +78

    9:13 I now I see how nora ( dawn) will remember the past timeline because of her journal when she does come back.

    • @bobafett5764
      @bobafett5764 5 лет назад +5

      I think that is a reverse time Hack Booooom

    • @cathalmcwilliams3033
      @cathalmcwilliams3033 5 лет назад +1

      If Nora was erased in this timeline. Then her diary should've been also..

    • @silverhetch3383
      @silverhetch3383 5 лет назад +5

      @@cathalmcwilliams3033 thats the joke, apparently writing speedforce language on an object protects it from erasure?!?

    • @TKhosa
      @TKhosa 5 лет назад +5

      Silver Hetch ohh is that why Nora’s diary still existed in the past even after she got erased ? 🤣

    • @addisontran8771
      @addisontran8771 5 лет назад +1

      cathal mcwilliams it wasn’t erased because of the time language written in it

  • @the_competent_gamer9454
    @the_competent_gamer9454 5 лет назад +319

    Me: thinks i've figured out the flash/reverse flash timeline:
    Flash writers: 1:15

    • @Vary180
      @Vary180 5 лет назад +2

      xD

    • @КалоянПавлов-й3й
      @КалоянПавлов-й3й 5 лет назад +3

      Xaxaxaxaxa this kill's me

    • @Hesreallhim
      @Hesreallhim 5 лет назад +1

      🤣😂⚡️

    • @keynight7513
      @keynight7513 5 лет назад +2

      KillerGames This entire video wrong, and let me explain. When eobard fixes flashpoint with Barry, he goes back to the past to relive his 15 year plan to go back to the future as we see in s1. Although, this time eobard knows that he will die to Eddie and Barry and takes precautions in order to live, this time with information. He then assembled his group in legends of tomorrow in order to stop himself from dying using the spear of destiny, although, the black flash absorbs him into the speed force, and he is trapped in there with Barry at the end of s3. After Cisco creates the device to release Barry from the speed force, than manages to escape as well, this time surviving, but later being imprisoned in 2043, effectively setting the plot for s5. Keep in mind that this eobard is still the time remnant from flashpoint.

    • @Vary180
      @Vary180 5 лет назад +1

      @@keynight7513 no, he cannot relive the 15 years before the events in legends of tomorrow season 2 because he clearly states in the show he's been hunted by the black flash ever since barry released him from the flashpoint prison. meaning he would have no time to play 15 years of harrison wells without the black flash finding him and killing him. he also would be wearing wells' face in legends if he did go through that first. i do however think its possible that this remnant (or any remnant he brought into the legends finale) relived the 15 years after the events of legends season 2, in order to take wells' body and face back. since that's who we see in crisis on earth x and in season 5. but the time language is still a useful tool to make sure he never loses any important information.

  • @SaixanMobile
    @SaixanMobile 5 лет назад +77

    When the black flash “killed” him, the black flash actually sent him into the Speed Force, but when Barry got out of the speed force so did Eobard.

    • @hextaniumfranklin79
      @hextaniumfranklin79 5 лет назад +7

      ACG x vSawyer that explains why when he was erased dat the well, particles of Thawne were orange instead of blue. Nice theory!

  • @SuperFictions
    @SuperFictions 5 лет назад +44

    I really like the way you present it

    • @Logan0324_
      @Logan0324_ 4 года назад

      First reply on verified account lol

  • @cameronbaker97
    @cameronbaker97 5 лет назад +55

    I gave up trying to figure out Eobard's timeline when the "crisis on earth-X" crossover happened.

    • @tgaw9659
      @tgaw9659 5 лет назад

      it's yet to happen

    • @cameronbaker97
      @cameronbaker97 5 лет назад +2

      @@tgaw9659 huh?

    • @pandapan1329
      @pandapan1329 5 лет назад +2

      @@tgaw9659 no no, crisis on earth x already happened. You're thinking about Crisis (or Crisis on Infinite Earths)

    • @tgaw9659
      @tgaw9659 5 лет назад +2

      @@pandapan1329 oh yeah I meant crisis on infinite earths sorry didn't pay attention

    • @sachinmathpathi554
      @sachinmathpathi554 4 года назад

      yeah !! how does he return back in crisis x ??

  • @rinzaproductions
    @rinzaproductions 5 лет назад +6

    Barry when he’s unemployed: Okay class today we’re gonna learn how to fuck up the timeline

  • @backup-qg6nb
    @backup-qg6nb 5 лет назад +364

    My rating of the show.
    1.Season 1
    2.Season 2
    3.Season 5
    4.Season 4
    5.Season 3
    Cool video.

    • @backup-qg6nb
      @backup-qg6nb 5 лет назад +9

      @F I didn't, this is still a cool video.

    • @Uh_0h_zilla
      @Uh_0h_zilla 5 лет назад +80

      back up u think s4 is better than s3?

    • @spadezap9728
      @spadezap9728 5 лет назад +6

      @@backup-qg6nb how would you know?

    • @deanofarrell1881
      @deanofarrell1881 5 лет назад +10

      In my opinion it's
      Seasons:
      4-showed barry use more of his powers and his mind
      5-heart felt
      2-multiverse and more heroes
      1-im not saying it's one of the worst, I'm just saying it's not the best
      3-too cliché

    • @Riskofrain527
      @Riskofrain527 5 лет назад +29

      My rating of the show.
      1. Season 1 9/10
      2. Season 2 9/10
      3. Season 3. 6/10
      4. Season 5. 3/10
      5. Season 4. 2/10

  • @avisingh5327
    @avisingh5327 5 лет назад +64

    I believe that after flashpoint, eobard lived through season one again, but at the end he ran into the negative speed force.

    • @Vary180
      @Vary180 5 лет назад +11

      in the legends thawne says that shortly after he was released from the prison in flashpoint he was hunted by black flash. so he wouldn't have had time to play the wheelchair wells role again. the time language telling him about all his different timeline experiences makes the most sense. it's still odd to me though because these time language journals would be like reading someone else's experiences but thawne acts as if he actually remembers all events. it's super trippy

    • @jerodbrown7339
      @jerodbrown7339 5 лет назад +6

      Vary I feel that once he reads the book, he gets an EXTREME sense of deja vu as he remembers everything from the previous timeline.

    • @elmago1379
      @elmago1379 5 лет назад +2

      This could be the only one correct explanation

    • @madmonkey1168
      @madmonkey1168 5 лет назад +7

      Isn't the negative speed force the only thing that keeps you from getting erased from time.

    • @EnderDestructor
      @EnderDestructor 5 лет назад +6

      Vary my theory is that after killing Nora Allen he made a time remnant that went on to live through all of season 1 again and then the main RF brings Barry back to 2016 and continues to legends. The reason he is being pursued is because he shouldn’t exist anymore (cause his remnant was erased) and he starts having his memories bleed over from his remnant just like Barry’s during flashpoint.

  • @JoboVT
    @JoboVT 5 лет назад +29

    Iris doesn't care about eobard working with nora even though he's the reason eddie died like seriously what the hell

  • @lauravillanuevalv68
    @lauravillanuevalv68 5 лет назад +49

    Barry:i watched you died...
    Eobart:are you sure about that

  • @drawgade2192
    @drawgade2192 4 года назад +9

    "Neither one being able to defeat the other"
    2 seconds later:
    "Frustrated by being defeated over and over again"

  • @jasonwebb1882
    @jasonwebb1882 5 лет назад +18

    Thank you. I never thought about the book.

  • @ragdoll9460
    @ragdoll9460 5 лет назад +91

    Question do you think Don could still appear? I mean we know the timeline Nora is from is gone. Plus with Thawne calling Nora Dawn in the hundredth episode most likely means Dawn and Don used to exist. I mean why erase Nora to just bring Nora back, unless a sibling will appear.

    • @dukikuki2549
      @dukikuki2549 5 лет назад +2

      They didn't use to exist they were supposed to exist but didn't or arn't going to because of the timeline change.

    • @ragdoll9460
      @ragdoll9460 5 лет назад +19

      Duki Kuki they used to exist. Thawne is from the original timeline where he learned about the flash. We know he wanted to become the flash meaning he learned things about him in the flash museum. Learning about his life. So if thawne called Nora “Dawn” she used to exist including her brother. Meaning that Nora should have never even existed and was just a product of messing up the timeline. Thawne also said “ time Travel is so tricky.” And “At least you still have one.” So since there is a new timeline without Nora chances are we will get Don. Probably Nora and Don now.

    • @ragdoll9460
      @ragdoll9460 5 лет назад

      Duki Kuki Well?

    • @insult7817
      @insult7817 5 лет назад

      RagDoll yea mostly cuz dawn n don were the original children Barry and iris had but bcuz of the changes they had Nora but now that she got erased they’ll have the twins but they’ll use Nora as dawn n bring in a new character for don

    • @bobafett5764
      @bobafett5764 5 лет назад +1

      I think u mean the tornado twins 🌪 Dawn. But yeah I think so.

  • @jimmyturner4909
    @jimmyturner4909 5 лет назад +115

    i am the only speedster that can manipulate the timeline to get what i want
    see u in the next crisis Flah

    • @Szaize
      @Szaize 5 лет назад +6

      Aslam Bakar *F L A H*
      Flash, it's flash!

    • @skeet23z59
      @skeet23z59 5 лет назад +1

      flah

  • @adi_g
    @adi_g 5 лет назад +36

    Can you do a video explaining Nora getting erased?

    • @emerson3539
      @emerson3539 5 лет назад +10

      Adrik Gangopadhyay crisis is happening earlier meaning that flash didn’t survive so Nora was never born

    • @adi_g
      @adi_g 5 лет назад

      @@emerson3539 thanks Lucid. I had a confusion. Thank you again!

    • @adi_g
      @adi_g 5 лет назад

      @@emerson3539 😀😀

    • @abdulbutt1162
      @abdulbutt1162 5 лет назад

      DC that literally has nothing to do with Nora getting erased

    • @Rebeelious
      @Rebeelious 5 лет назад +2

      DC Nora was erased because they erased cicadas dagger which was apart of Noras future which erased her creating another version of her

  • @F4ZM1
    @F4ZM1 5 лет назад +8

    Reverse Flash TV Show would be so insane! We need to make this happen

  • @anxarts7424
    @anxarts7424 5 лет назад +4

    Finally a video about it....i am asking this since the episode 1

  • @jakecarlson9961
    @jakecarlson9961 5 лет назад +6

    People always complain about how Barry let Thawne get away during Crisis on Earth X. I think the reason why, which is at least implicit in the show and established in Reverse Flash Returns, is that they can never catch him and hold him somewhere without messing up their own timeline--they can stop him from killing people but they have to let him go back to his own time.
    Also, the reason why him being locked up for fifteen years in 2049 doesn't screw up their timeline is because Barry is gone and everyone has moved on (possibly? The only 2049 version of a character we see is Iris). So, him being locked up doesn't screw up Team Flash's timeline.

  • @Splrsh
    @Splrsh 5 лет назад +1

    I love your videos they get straight to the point on common discussed topics

  • @khaosafk3890
    @khaosafk3890 3 года назад +4

    Love this show so much, and the Reverse Flash timeline is something that interests me a lot.

  • @siringc
    @siringc 4 года назад +17

    2:22
    "Neither one being able to defeat the other"
    2:25
    "Frustrated by being defeated over and over again"
    Anyone else a little confused here?

    • @jasan_o3633
      @jasan_o3633 3 года назад +2

      They both can never actually kill each other because rf can just keep coming back and if flash dies,rf wont be able to go home.

    • @MuttonErase
      @MuttonErase 3 года назад

      @@jasan_o3633 that doesn't make sense to me... if he knew that if he killed the flash he could never go home. That means when he went to kill kid Barry he already knew it would be a one way trip if he succeeded. So then why is he so desperate to get to his original time when he gets stranded there?

  • @94Central
    @94Central 5 лет назад +6

    When he got erased in Legends S2, he made a bunch of remnants. Maybe he created one more and sent him to the speed force!

  • @Tango_Hendrix
    @Tango_Hendrix 5 лет назад +7

    Especially in this last season, Arrow was right, the flash fr can't go 9 hours without a damn pep talk.

  • @tgory1106
    @tgory1106 5 лет назад +6

    My rating
    1.season 1 (my opinion)
    2.season 5
    3.season 2
    4.season 4
    5.season 3 (it was a good season but just not as good as season 1,2,5 but i i like it)
    Favourite wells
    1.eobard thawne
    2. HR/Sherlock
    3.Harry

    • @Thepianoman77
      @Thepianoman77 5 лет назад

      I like the German Vells. *in German accent* “He doesn’t know! He doesn’t know!”

  • @godspeed8857
    @godspeed8857 4 года назад

    This channel deserves at lease 1 mil subs

  • @ditoo2002
    @ditoo2002 5 лет назад +10

    The butterfly effect, when they destroyed cicadas dagger a lot of things should've changed in the future, like how the rf got caught in iron heights.

    • @Vary180
      @Vary180 5 лет назад +2

      agreed that part makes no sense to me. like why does the affects of the timeline changing only get rid of the dagger at his execution? it should disappear in his past and release him a whole 15 years earlier. but again it's one of countless cases of the writers doing things for dramatic effect rather than for the sake of logic. like when supergirl can carry a 1 million ton spaceship or a submarine no problem but cant hold 2 halves of a cargo plane so lena luther has to climb up so she can drop that half.

    • @ditoo2002
      @ditoo2002 5 лет назад

      @@Vary180 thank you

    • @bafrane1832
      @bafrane1832 5 лет назад

      @@Vary180 oh shit thats so true (about him being released 15 years earlier) didnt even think about that...

    • @elmago1379
      @elmago1379 5 лет назад +2

      @@bafrane1832 maybe it takes time for timeline to consolidate and when Barry and nora go in the future is still the previous timeline. This can be the only explanation

    • @bafrane1832
      @bafrane1832 5 лет назад

      @@elmago1379 yeaah its gotta be. Super good point by you 👏🏽😯

  • @chief5604
    @chief5604 2 года назад +2

    I love Reverse Flash and Matt and Tom as the elegant and saturated, respective actors of the role but man, Reverse Flash is that one kid on a garden that keeps changing the rules and is the master and the changer of the seed, cause, effect and results, even when he's not correct, he just slaps everyone and changes the rules yet again

  • @lauravillanuevalv68
    @lauravillanuevalv68 5 лет назад +12

    The new blame to take on the CW's flash:TheNegativeSpeedForce

  • @Protocol36
    @Protocol36 5 лет назад +2

    Thanks for that! This has been killing me for months.

  • @Dhruv-qw7jf
    @Dhruv-qw7jf 5 лет назад +3

    You missed the point that Thawne always returns after his death, starting with the season 1 finale, because he disintegrates into the Negative Speed Force, and as Thawne said in the season 5 finale, the Negative Speed Force is the only place immune to any timelime changes. That is why, he won't really lose his consciousness in it and can always return back whenever he wants to and retain every memory from his time language, unlike the Positive Speed Force in which speedsters disintegrates into pure energy. Now it makes so much sense and just in time when "Crisis on Infinite Earths" is about to happen.

  • @nervshmrv1245
    @nervshmrv1245 2 года назад +3

    One thing I didn't understand is how Cisco started dying because of changes to the timeline. Harry said "This is how he learns your name, this is his origin story", if this is his origin story, then that means that the timeline is going exactly the way it should have, which means that there are no other changes being made to the timeline. So Cisco should have never started dying, which means that Thawne would have been stuck there in the cell.

  • @dukikuki2549
    @dukikuki2549 5 лет назад +4

    Thank you for the explanation🙂

  • @YouTubeUser0000
    @YouTubeUser0000 4 года назад +1

    Finally. A brave someone decides to even attempt to explain this headache.

  • @cheapy1195
    @cheapy1195 5 лет назад +7

    My boy Cisco is gone and I’m sad. Do a history on him

    • @pandapan1329
      @pandapan1329 5 лет назад +1

      Cisco isn't leaving the show

  • @lauramena4680
    @lauramena4680 3 года назад

    This was such a good explanation! Literally my questions where answered! Thank you!

  • @columbomumbo7088
    @columbomumbo7088 5 лет назад +38

    Dude make predictions on crisis on infinite earths

    • @Twitchte
      @Twitchte 5 лет назад +1

      @KIRA - where is that lol

  • @PabloAnimations
    @PabloAnimations 5 лет назад +1

    Yo bro I been watching your videos for a good few weeks and I got to say, I love it! 👍🏻 and iam also a huge fan of the flash series, but anyways there is this one theory that was floating around 2016 or 17 (I don’t remember) that all the Reverse Flash’s did I’m fact died but like u said some were the past RF. What if I told that some how that because somehow the RF got these memories is because it’s not only the speed force but in fact as well as different alternative timelines that Barry that he created that the RF knew eventually he dies and makes more timeline to prevent his other deaths and that’s why we see others RF’s
    I could explain more but that’s all I got/Remember 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @somerandomchannel6274
    @somerandomchannel6274 5 лет назад +5

    Can you talk about how Barry LITERALLY stopped time when he got that boost fighting cicada?

    • @emerystheimmortal417
      @emerystheimmortal417 5 лет назад +1

      When he is moving so fast that everything else seems to appear at a stand still, it is not new and this always bothered me because theoretically Barry can move so fast that anyone who isn't a speedster should not be a problem regardless of their abilities because they just would never see him coming

  • @andresarroyo4164
    @andresarroyo4164 4 года назад +1

    This show gives us the best reverse flash ever with a fun to learn timeline and a great role by Tom Cavaghna and his spanning plan is also great

  • @blue_lancer_es
    @blue_lancer_es 5 лет назад +8

    Need zoom back!! Dammit 52 earths!!

  • @rohangigi768
    @rohangigi768 5 лет назад

    Your one of the best comic youtubers

  • @sillyboy4063
    @sillyboy4063 5 лет назад +21

    Am I the only one who lived season 4? Ralph is the best character

    • @gcham
      @gcham 5 лет назад +1

      Silly Boy Ralph is the best

  • @Movie_lover616
    @Movie_lover616 2 года назад +1

    For those who want a simple version thawne is basically a living paradox the only way he can really be killed is by being taken out of the timeline by black flash therefore breaking the paradox

  • @TheCosmicTiger
    @TheCosmicTiger 5 лет назад +4

    So in other words
    Negative speed force makes u practically immortal

  • @spacethegamer6426
    @spacethegamer6426 4 года назад +1

    Maybe the Thawne that came back in Crisis on Erath-X is an anachronism that was caused by the Legends breaking time at the end of Legends S2, I mean if the anachronisms can take Young Martin Stein to meet the Vikings in America and have youg Ray meet a baby Domintaor then they could misplace some version of Eobard before his death into the "Future"

  • @cheezburger2303
    @cheezburger2303 5 лет назад +4

    I love the Reverse Flash's suit but does anybody else think he due for costume change? Like Barry has had like 4 different costumes now!!

    • @Thepianoman77
      @Thepianoman77 5 лет назад

      Yeah. Lol . Plus reverse flash’s suit always looks a little dirty to over used lol

  • @epicmonkey6663
    @epicmonkey6663 5 лет назад

    everything upon the reverse-flash being free was amazing Tom cavanagh acting was phenomenal the facial expressions I loved it gentleman I hate to inform you but you're all dead that is my favourite line now from the reverse-flash the way it was spoken the way he was walking around that room god it gave me chills and that's what I want from the villains of this show

  • @LightTCG
    @LightTCG 5 лет назад +16

    I love how you said they can’t defeat each other, then said “after being defeat over and over again”

    • @raileite5994
      @raileite5994 5 лет назад

      Oh yeah 😂

    • @MaxMikescrool1
      @MaxMikescrool1 5 лет назад

      He was probably referring to just Barry. Bruh this a 6v1
      but then there are the other times.. yeah

    • @Vary180
      @Vary180 5 лет назад

      thawne probably sees his failure to defeat barry as a loss in itself

  • @mildmanneredcomicnerd8849
    @mildmanneredcomicnerd8849 5 лет назад

    Yea. That works. I agree. I just looked at it as him being outside of the timeline and some weird connections with the Negative Speed Force, but this works better. Thanks again for sharing 😊

  • @darthrevan2410
    @darthrevan2410 5 лет назад +6

    Here's one Thwane made shit load of time Remaninst and learned how to protect them. Baaang!😋Hold the applause thank very kind. Yes even more then those who showed up in Legends imagine thousand of Thwanes just bubbled in the negative speed force each waiting to be summoned like a Hatchling......🤔🤤

  • @Archaos2k
    @Archaos2k 5 лет назад

    Hey your channel is really great I love the flash and enjoy watching your vids, keep up the awesome work!

  • @iamtheluciddreamofficial
    @iamtheluciddreamofficial 5 лет назад +3

    U forgot to mention that the Earth X Version of Thawne that runs to 2034 is the Season 1 Version that got erased from existence and not the Legends Version Post Flashpoint

  • @wiskyr6510
    @wiskyr6510 2 года назад

    1:12 "Hey, Flash, Barry here. I watched you die."
    "Or did you"

  • @gavinrezk9199
    @gavinrezk9199 5 лет назад +5

    Why doesn’t bary notice people doing a speed mirage it doesn’t make sense since he processes stuff way faster

  • @CT0197
    @CT0197 5 лет назад

    Great explanation! You explained it quite well! I've always loved Thawn and I really hope he has a way bigger role in season 6.

  • @viny9666
    @viny9666 5 лет назад +18

    Reverse flash is the flash but HE USED THE REVERSE UNO CARD :O

  • @TheBohobemeister
    @TheBohobemeister 4 года назад +1

    Wonderful video!
    It sucks though that Reverse Flash wasn't in "Crisis on Infinite Earths" like we all wanted and expected him to be.

  • @mut2278
    @mut2278 5 лет назад +3

    You deserve a lot more subs

  • @jb57551
    @jb57551 2 месяца назад

    The soundtrack is "Close My Mouth" by "Silent Partner". In case you are interested in the background noise

  • @Kryth1
    @Kryth1 3 года назад +3

    so Eddie died for no reason

  • @StrikeGaming95
    @StrikeGaming95 5 лет назад

    Thank you I’ve been so confused up till this point

  • @randomt800kiddo2
    @randomt800kiddo2 5 лет назад +23

    *Just.. in.. t-*

  • @n-aos
    @n-aos 4 года назад

    "See you in the next Crisis, Flash."
    We never saw him in Crisis on Infinite Earths

  • @savitar7348
    @savitar7348 5 лет назад +3

    Reverse flash got erased from existence. And he's still alive. Can savitar come back? He got erased but can he come back again?

    • @alexelliott8519
      @alexelliott8519 5 лет назад +1

      This is late but Savitar cant. Savitar was one of Barry's time remnants that lived. He's basically an evil version of Barry. Savitar then ruined Barry's life by killing Iris and causing Killer Frost to mess up Cisco's hands. But when HR died instead of Iris, the future where Iris died now no longer exists. That caused Savitar to disappear from the timeline because Barry and the team don't end all dismantled. Long story short, Savitar needed Iris to die because he needed Barry to go through hell to turn into Savitar

  • @supermegasmith4219
    @supermegasmith4219 5 лет назад

    huh i was watching this to prepare for the up coming season and just realized this was uploaded on my birthday .ps love the channel

  • @jackwat30
    @jackwat30 5 лет назад +4

    i’m still confused can someone explain this please... if Eobard Thawne in the face of wells died/(got erased) in the 23rd episode of season 1 then how is he imprisoned in Nora Allen’s time if he died?

  • @sashaorr9238
    @sashaorr9238 3 года назад +1

    no one:
    Eobard Thawne: I'm alive but I'm dead

  • @ItsMeAndrewGD
    @ItsMeAndrewGD 5 лет назад +3

    One question.... Thawme said that the negative speed force is immune to timeline changes right. Then how did he end up loosing his speed force back in season 1?

    • @w1fx931
      @w1fx931 2 года назад

      Beacuse that before he create his negative speedforce

  • @MakeVarahHappen
    @MakeVarahHappen 5 лет назад +1

    Theory: The particle accelerator from 2014 Earth 1 gave people powers based on the Speedforce. This is based on how the vast majority of metas have powers replicated by Speedsters in the comics, the fact that Eobard made it specifically to give Barry Speedforce powers, and how it killed Shay Lamden despite the fact that the Earth 2 one(arguably the more "pure" one) gave him powers that the Speedforce can't replicate even though most other Metas will get the same powers regardless of circumstance due to their genetics(DeVoe being able to predict powers years in advance, Caitlin getting the same powers on Earth 2 as she did post-Flashpoint, the Flash of Earth 90 having the same powers despite a completely different accident, etc.) possibly because the Earth 1 particle accelerator COULDN'T give the powers he was supposed to have due to only giving out Speedforce powers.

  • @Jadoniah
    @Jadoniah 5 лет назад +10

    I understand how he is alive in season 5 but how was he alive for season 4 crisis on earth x

    • @cameronbaker97
      @cameronbaker97 5 лет назад +1

      who knows.

    • @cameronbaker97
      @cameronbaker97 5 лет назад +7

      I don't even think CW knows.

    • @Jadoniah
      @Jadoniah 5 лет назад +2

      @@cameronbaker97 😂😂😂 they put so much bullshit in that it all confused them

  • @jeom3808
    @jeom3808 5 лет назад +1

    0:30 i’ve said it before and i’ll say if again, Iris stance was not out right wrong, and Barry wasn’t all in the right either, they both have really solid points and they both missed something important(that which the other one was leaning more heavily, thats why the scene was so great, its a genuine fight of two parents/couples, and the actors do an amazing job too, but i digress), if anything, Iris really was the more reasonable one with a better idea,(but again, i do acknowledge she *is* missing barry’s traumatized feeling and concerns about thawn, but thats why they both learn the others stance more clearly, she apologizes for being quite a bit insensible at barry’s past and at the end they meet on a more middle ground...leaning a little more on Iris “phylosophy/idea” because she was right in several ways, Fight me)

  • @iiirdvii840
    @iiirdvii840 5 лет назад +5

    My Rating of the Show
    Season 1 - 90
    2 - 89
    3 - 87
    5 - 69
    4 - 26

    • @wetkorn9337
      @wetkorn9337 5 лет назад +2

      VII III here’s mines
      Season 1: 90
      Season 2: 85
      Season 3: 10
      Season 4: 75
      Season 5: 77

    • @a1uplift212
      @a1uplift212 5 лет назад +2

      How does season 3 get a higher rating than season 4?

    • @iiirdvii840
      @iiirdvii840 5 лет назад

      @@a1uplift212 I like to rate the Flash seasons in 2 categories. The first consist of Seasons 1,2 and 3 WHICH ARE INFINITELY BETTER, I know some people think it is to basic, inoffensive and predictable but it just works, and the emotional beats hit because it is so simple to understand it and doesn't make you question why there is conflict because it is just there, also quick to mention that Barry isn't very fast in these ones which doesn't make me want to die when he gets his ass handed to him. AND THEN THERE IS SEASON 4 AND 5... fuck these seasons, honestly Season 4 was ok the first third... then they tried to spice things up and slap cheese on it and oh boy that works really well irl but not here. DeVoe was boring, like he was interesting the way that they just revealed him then he gets boring and Ralph got the Damian treatment so those 2 characters suck, also Iris and the CGI is just bad. And also worth mentioning is that since Barry is established to be God level AND he looses... just hurts, Cicadas cheese just canceled out his spiciness then his fucking niece took over and removed the spice AND FOR SHITSTAINS THE ACTION IS HORRIBLE TO WATCH!!! GOD, IT WAS MEDIOCRE AT THE START, THAT IS WHY IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE SIMPLE AND NOW THEY TRY THESE CRAPPY ANGLES WITH THE CGI AND SLOW MOTION AND..... *breaths* Iris, also she sucks and honestly the "emotional beats" were just bad. Sorry for this long-ass reply.

    • @wetkorn9337
      @wetkorn9337 5 лет назад

      Blamer Blaze ikr

    • @LightVelox
      @LightVelox 5 лет назад

      @@iiirdvii840 season 3 is only good at the first few episodes, from episode 5 and onward it's absolute shit

  • @everettparker1313
    @everettparker1313 Месяц назад

    This Truly was an Awesome Video for Eobard Thawne/The Reverse Flash My All Time Favorite Antagonist’s in The Entire Arrowverse and My All Time Favorite Version of Eobard Thawne/The Reverse Flash in DC Media.

  • @JEAFlashSword
    @JEAFlashSword 5 лет назад +5

    Negative Speed Force get him a invulnerability for Timeline

    • @letswait30days
      @letswait30days 5 лет назад

      How tf does that work

    • @JEAFlashSword
      @JEAFlashSword 5 лет назад

      @@letswait30days IT's different of the PURE Speed Force of the others speedsters

  • @samska6741
    @samska6741 2 года назад +1

    I needed this

  • @mgannmorzz2412
    @mgannmorzz2412 5 лет назад +4

    Do CW Reign and CW Red Daughter + CW Kara and J;onn

  • @robertangus616
    @robertangus616 5 лет назад +1

    both Marvel and DC have examples of a perfect archnemesis. Marvel has Green Goblin from the Sam Raimi Spider-Man trilogy and DC has the Arrowverse version of Reverse-Flash