Me and my dad see my dad's old car for the first time in 20 years.
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- He sold the car over 20+ years ago when he was an alcoholic. Said he probably would have died in it. This is the first time he saw it since he sold it over 20+ years ago. The car does look in relative good shape, we have no idea what has been done with the car over the past 20 years. It obviously wasn't sitting there for 20 years and nobody claims it to be. Pay attention, people. 1964 Buick Rivera. 425 Wildcat V8 w/ 427 horsepower.
So many of these older guys buy up old cars like this, sit them in a field and never do anything with them. They will have dozens - maybe even hundreds of old "project cars" sitting around deteriorating. Always say they are going to restore it one day but never have any real intention to. Then when a person comes along with the skill, money and desire to buy and restore the car they still refuse to sell it. They will either flat out say its not for sale or they will throw some unrealistic price on the car to chase the buyer away-as in this case. The guy asking 10,000 for this car more thank likely has no intention to ever sell it. He would rather see it sit there in that field on his property and rot away until the day he dies than to let it go to the hands of someone who might do something with it.
Its kind of like that TV show Hoarders in a way, only instead of filliing random items in the house they refuse to get rid of these guys hoard cars.
David Hartman
Hit the nail on the head there man. They think they have the same energy and interest they did years ago. Only to find out they bit off more than they could chew.
They think they will die and take it with them.
many people take an old car apart never to be touched
1972 firebird
their emotions play some role here mostly that’s why In my humble opinion
You are SO right David...been there...I watched a 64 ss sink into the ground through the years .
I hate how mfers just leave old cars out in the wild to fucking rust
He doesnt want to sell, he's never gonna sell. He just likes the attention the car brings him.. I know a guy that has nothing but chevy's...from 1952 up until a 1971 chevelle..
All impalas, chevelles, el camino's and corvettes... they just sit in the snow and rain and changing temps... i managed to get 2 off him in the 20 yrs ive know him.. A 65 impala SS and a 70 chevelle....I restored both...."The rest are still sitting ..he says he's gonna get around to restoring them... He turns down reasonable offers...He just likes the attention.
+austin tatious He sounds a right fruit loop. A guy who lives near me has loads of Trabants he bought mega cheap when the Berlin Wall fell. There must be around 50 of them yet all he does is leave them rotting away on a large field he owns. Of course in 1989 nobody wanted a Trabant....they were practically given away! But that was 26 years ago and now they are sought after collectable cars.
Nothing but chevy's = landfill....they're exactly the same thing...
Branon Fontaine
well, he doesnt have any old fords or dodge
that says something
He wanted that car so bad it broke my heart, it was like an old friend who waited for him to come back and get him.
Wow. I can't believe someone could leave that car out there like that and pay it no mind. I love Rivieras. That dude is nuts for not wanting to sell it. Is he afraid he'd to see it not rotting?
MysteryWolph Greedy.
Fred A. Never got it back huh
Hyup, ahm'ol fix 'er up someday.
True, but you can't knock the man for actually going ahead and selling the car, taking away the temptation rather than driving it while drunk.
I wouldn't give him $5k for that. It's not a Mustang GT, it's not a Camaro SS, it's not a Hemi Plymouth or Dodge. For him to try and get $10K is just a rip off. The sad part is its going to sit there and rot away instead of getting redone and put back on the road.
I'm not saying that 10,000 is a fair price but you won't find as many of these as though other things you're talking about. These cars were very rare 20yrs ago let alone today. Yes, I would to do a full restoration on this car because there is nothing like this built today. That car is all american steel.
Loretta Bain
They are not as rare or valuable as you think. I have been around old cars since high school, and that was 20 plus years ago. I have had old cars, rare cars, and I am actually restoring a rare option Ford pickup now. I can tell you after looking online just today there are quite a few of these same year, same option motor cars for around 20K and under, and those are one's that are restored or very clean all original cars. To restore that car back to all original would cost 20K on a car you want 10K for. It's not worth it. Also, the motor is not a Wildcat, the Wildcat was a separate line of car similar to the Electra and shared the same style in general as the Oldsmobile Starfire. The Buick Riviera came with two engines, either a 401 Nailhead or the 425 Nailhead. The 401 was only 265 hp and the 425 was only 340 hp. Those were not exactly powerhouses when you look at the 409 Impala in 63-64 making 425 hp, the GTO making 368 hp with the 389 and the Catalina making 370 hp with the 421 V8. The Riviera is not a muscle car, it never was. It might be a rare car to some, (it actually isn't) but rare doesn't always mean valuable. I can tell you I have seen some "rare" cars sit for years because their owners thought they were worth more because the owner hasn't seen another one. One example I saw was a 67 Chrysler Newport 2dr hardtop with a 440 Magnum automatic tranny. The owner that the car was worth a fortune, it wasn't and he sold it for less simply because no one would buy it. If you try to squeeze 10K out of that car, you'll end up letting it rust to nothing, no one in their right mind who knows cars will pay 10K for that car when 20K will get you one done already or real close to it.
The body might not be as rare but the 425 sure is. Take this for an example; the Air Force originally used 425's to power up the SR-71 turbines then later scrapped that idea because the parts for 425 were readily available. Nowadays it's nearly impossible to find a good block too work with.
I can tell you that the 425 while a good motor, is not that great compared to the GTO and Impala's of the same years, which is why these cars are not worth all that much. A GTO of the same time span has more horsepower, as does the Impala 409 and 396, even the Olds 442 had more power. All of those are more desirable. The only way this car would be worth the $10K is if it was a 66 Riviera GS with the MZ option. There were only 179 of those made, they were the 425's with dual 4bbbl carbs. Like I said, you can find one all done for $20K, $25K.
Maybe we can call Vito Corlioni, The Godfather will make him an offer; He canna refusa! OH!
I've seen better examples for much less. That guy is off his rocker at 10k. Not only that but I'd probably cut a deal if it was someone's car they missed dearly.
I agree. What an ass-nozzle jacking up the price like that. What goes around comes around......
10 grand my ass he would be lucky if he got 5
My brother had one of those. It had a two speed automatic, I think. He gave it a stomp on the freeway going about 55 and the downshift was so gloriously violent, and the acceleration so brutal, that we nearly wet ourselves. A really under rated performance car.
I wish I could see some of my old cars If I had chance to get them back in shape Id do it in a heart beat there is so much metal there a diehard would go crazy between cars and trucks
no way that car was in the elements for 20 years..
milwaukeegregg thank you
I can't believe how well it survived sitting in the weeds like that. I sure hope you guys saved it.
that car looks like it can still be saved and brought back to life
I would take either the old Chevy 3100 pick up or that old Ford dumptruck!
It's very strange how some people just buy cars, park them up in a field or wherever, and either want "silly money" to part with them or FLAT REFUSE to sell. They just like watching them rot away and take some kind of weird pleasure in depriving someone else from saving them.
I once came across a 1965 Mk1 Mini (way more rare than Cooper 'S') in someones garden, just like this though covered in weed. Fortunately the guy who owned it was going to scrap it so i offered him the same money and he accepted. That was one Mk1 Mini saved!!
Some people have strange ideas about the value of vehicles. I saw a middle 70s Pinto wagon with a FOR SALE sign in the window about five years ago. The guy wanted over $30,000. Pretty sure he never sold it.
GM should have given away 1,000 of these each year of production, everybody who sat in a Buick Riviera wanted one, they were that special. This car was exceptional inside for its time, when you opened the door it lit up. Smooth, handled like a dream, fair to great gas mileage for the time and mid sized... and fast!
For the love of GOD! Restore the blue beauty!!
Jesus Behind the Wheel of love to take the blue one. oml😍
It's a shame you could not get it and fix it up for your dad! I can tell he still loves it. Fred, if I come across a large sum of cash, I would be more than happy to help you out! Your dad deserve it
I so wish I could make sure he gets that car. He sounds so doggone excited about it. That's awesome :)
I found my '69 Firebird after 33 years. It was treated badly. Left outside to rust and missing many parts, including the engine and transmission. The owner was nice enough that he gave it to me. I built a garage for it and want badly to restore it. Got sick and am now disabled. Restoring it seems like it will take miracle but I keep praying.
Loved my 69 bought in 1977,Later the person that bought it ruined it then traded it off for 300.00 on some pile of crap Bronco 2?
Really? I love it! I see it as a lovely opportunity to restore them. I want to find one of these places with a bunch of classic just hanging around for me to see and maybe find one I want. :)
I had a 65. First year for the TH400. The single carb 425 was rated at 340h.p. but could be ordered with a 360 h.p. dual quad engine from the factory . Most mistake the torque rating (465 Wildcat on air cleaner) as the actual hp. Mine saw airplane like body lift at 100mph. Scary indeed!
I just don't get it. I know hoarding is somewhat of a sickness, but common man! Let someone restore these bad boys of you aren't going to!
musta been so awesome to see the old man reunite with that car! two thumbs up!
Old McDonalds been sippin' too much shine.
427 horsepower??? Where are you guys getting your figures? The 64 Buick 425 put out 360 horsepower, and that is SAE brake rating. Which means it isn't even getting 300 put down to the rear wheels.
The engine doesn't have to be stock and doesn't look to be stock. He just says it's got 427hp which are totally plausible for a mildly modified nailhead. Also, people usually talk about engine horsepower and not wheel horsepower since it's a more precise unit.
maybe it's a wildcat motor if you know what that is
Loretta Bain It says it's a wildcat 425c.i. in the description. The engine in the Wildcat is a buick nailhead V8, with dual quads in it's most powerful 360bhp (SAE gross since it's before 1972) version. It already was a high compression motor so to achieve 425hp you'd have to get AT LEAST a new carb, intake manifold and most probably a more aggressive cam at least. While it can be a good performance powerplant, the nailhead never was a favourite amongs racers because it wasn't the most durable engine and it was a fairly old design compared to later big blocks. Like most buick designed powerplants, though, it was capable of producing insane amounts of torque.
There's no way those little valves would support 427horsepower.The heads on those old Buick 425and 401engines were definitely their weak point.425 or so sounds about right for torque(hp in the neighborhood of'350).Those old nail head engines just couldn't turn enough rpm or flow enough air through the head to reach the 425 hp mark.
i can understand the love your father had for that 64 i had a 73 riviera in high school restored it from the ground up blew the engine driving to school one morning but replaced it with a 455 stage 1 engine that was out of a 71 grandsport i loved that car too bad i got t boned one morning goin to work by a bread truck and it was totaled
Have to Agree I had a Riviera like this was one of the fastest cars I have ever owned. Left a lot of Trans Ams and Z28 Camaros in the dust. Had a 70 Chevelle too that was no match but weighed much less.
Which one is the blue car?..
It seems a buick riviera 64
I'll never understand why people leave stuff to rot in fields like this. It's beyond me.
So many negative comments lol. Someone found their old car...SWEET. Hopefully the old fart who is trying to rip you off gets his head out the ground. I wish you luck
I had a '63. 425 Wildcat Nailhead engine. Massive torque curve, 390 factory HP.
I am with you on that, so many people let beautiful old cars sit and rot away rather than sell them to someone who will actually do something with it. It is a shame.
wow, a Buick Riviera. i came across the '67 year version, everything was still original on the vehicle until the rear shock absorbers had to be replaced, but the exhaust was just rusted out. the Riviera is one of my favorite classic muscle cars.
Posted here many comments back. Keep crossing paths with this video. The front rake on the fenders had me hooked the first time I laid eyes on my 65. Very sinister in Midnight Blue lacquer and turquoise interior. Tires would howl when you lit them up. I ran a 401 with factory quadrajet. Switched to the optional dual Carters later on. Too much for the 401 on the low end, but the car screamed with the kickdown engaged and 8 barrels wide open. High revs were crazy with the dual quads.
53 chevy 5 window pickup very nice that's my dream truck
They built a ton of them,right up the road from me in Oakland CA.They closed the truck line in 1963,And I see they are stupid expensive these days
wtc is that sound at 1:52 O.o
My dad going "Bam bam!" haha.
Fred Allen lol I listened to it over and over and couldn't figure out what it was lol
SHUU SHUU SHUU - GET OUT! Sounds like "GET OUT" OMG!
I don't know how I ended up here but this is amazing this is my dream car I have a tattoo of it in my chest one day I will get this car that is an amazing car. I wish I had that car
@Benjamin Morris that's awesome don't give up it will happen 🤟👍dreams keeps us moving forward.
I had a '64 just like this a few years back, almost the same color with the 425 wildcat... and I'll have to agree, it was the fastest thing I've ever owned!
It became known as the"Nailhead" for the unusual vertical position of its small sized valves which were compared to nails since their head diameter is smaller than other comparable displacement engines of the same era. The engine used a camshaft with greater lift and duration to offset the smaller sized valves and restrictive ports.The heads sit on top of the engine block and match the bank angle, however the rocker covers sit level on top of the heads to accommodate the rockers and valves.
Lots of potential there. Those old Nailheads were torque monsters... I rebuilt/hopped up a 425 for a customer (A priest!) and after it was done that car would shred the tires at will. I love those cast valve covers. Those engines were works of art with the dealer-installed dual quads. I used to own a 65 Special (way lighter) and can attest to the Torque and speed of the nailhead. You need to buy that car-not too often does one find a car they shouldn't have sold decades later. Thanks for posting
Well, figure a motor rebuild, $2-3K if you have to spend to have it done, depending on the condition of the block. I would go through all the brakes, brake lines, master cylinder, etc. Another $1K if you have to pay someone, guaranteed the tires are shot, figure $500 or so. Any guesses on what the wildlife has done to the wiring? New harness, maybe a new radiator but you might get lucky with the one that's in it. Since this video is going on five years I bet time has not been any kinder with it. So figure to get the car moving again under its own power and being able to stop, steer, and roll, $5K on the outset if the motor is rebuilt. I bet there's lot of stuff that has gone down that carb. Nothing worse than a motor that's been left to sit. Given all that, I would walk up there with 2K in hundred dollar bills and put it on the table, if he takes it, so be it, if not go find something else. I know there's a personal connection but the asking price cuts an awful lot of ties.
Dude that a beautiful Buick!! You guys should restore it to original condition👍very cool car
Why did you left it?
It's in very good condition, after all these years
That is sad that it's been left in the woods like that.
the guy is on drugs for 10.000..there be rotted away before he would ever get 10 grand..
But... He has something someone wants!!!!
Hoarders,they think the value keeps going up,even as the car continues to deteriorate. A perfect Riv might be worth 7K.They think a gutted,rusty Chevelle wagon is worth as much as a restored SS396.Dump some Prozac in his well and come back in 6 months. Rust in peace.
I had one just like it wish I could find another one. They were great to drive
My 1st, 1965 Malibu 4 dr.. 23k on it from grandma...body rusted..straight 6 with a 2 speed power glide.
2nd, 1970 Plymouth 2dr Satellite.. Built up 318..nice starter car.
3rd, 1972? Plymouth 2dr Duster..bought it as an extra ride from cousins. 318 auto..sold it couple months later..
4th, 1970 Dodge 2dr Coronet. Had a 440 in it I blew in 1st week I owned it.. Beautiful ride..(sad story)
5th, 1981 Buick Regal w/T tops 3.8 6cyl. Pretty nice car.
6th, 1983 Chev Monte Carlo SS. Bench seat. Shifter on the tree.. 305 HO. Think 1st year for the SS.
7th, 1990 Nissan 300 ZX. Auto. Twin turbo...best handling car I've ever owned.
8th, 1995 Chevrolet Camaro Gigliotti G2, ZR28. Bought with 13k on it.. Still own as of 2015.
8th, 2013 Kia Optima SLX. Bought New. Still own as of 2015..
List to continue...thanks if you read all this.
looks like the set on Deliverance hehe...
now will someone please explain to me why in the HELL would anyone let a car like this Rivera waste away in some Godforsaken field??...makes no sense whatsoever!
20年放置してたんですか？ 原型が残っているものですね♪
You can find them all day long in decent condition WITH the 425 , running and driving for 12 to 15.... he was trying to rob you for sentimental value. let it sit there on the ground and rot the frame...then he can get what he deserves for it, NOTTA.
From what I could see, the blue Riviera not that bad shape, a great looking classic car worth putting some money into it.
$10k in my ass..
It's unbelievable how people just discard their cars and car parts with no thought about the effects that rusted metals, coroded rubber and paint, and leaking engines have on the environment. Smdh...
Sometimes there isn't the cash to fix them back up. For example I still have my 1966mustang that my dad used to drive until the transmission was ruined in an off road route. Long story short after 20+ years it sat because no one had the money to fix it up, but we sure as heck don't want to get rid of it either! It's my turn ti give it some elbow grease now.
when did edelbrock buy out the carter carburater company look at the carb how old is it thats not and old carb
I've got more vehicles sitting around than I know what to do with. A lot of them haven't moved in 20+ years but I am restoring some of my cars.
Lol its funny how mad the comment section is. Its his property, he can do what ever the hell he wants with it. I don't see a for sale sign on the car, which probably means he doesn't want to sell it. So don't get mad when you get a ridiculous price. Just because he sold the car and regrets it now doesn't give him the right to the car. Grow the fuck up.
I think I would have kept the car and not drank. Drinking will kill you just like a car will except faster.
beautiful car :) looks like a beast :)
I'd be getting it out of the weeks 4 sure! its only gonna rot out sitting in the grass/ field.reguardless of how long it's sat, she's a beauty & deserves 2 be taken care of. she's beautiful that's 4 sure
Thing about old American cars is they never get to a point of no return. They were built with real, thick, quality steel and can always be rebuilt. You'll see 1930s cars that have been sitting in the woods since the 50s that still hold shape and the doors still work. Most other countries are dumb to the American cars on the road. They seem to think all the cars are junk and cheaply built, always falling apart. Most of our cars have 200k+ miles on them and are still being driven every day.
@novachevyguy It really isn't that hard to believe. The paint is a bit faded, and the windshield is a bit cloudy, and the grass around the car looks completely undisturbed. Either way, even if someone had taken it out a year, two years, 5 years, or 10 years ago, it wouldn't matter much in relation to the video. Calm the fuck down and enjoy. Not everyone is out there to cheat you.
@dirtbiker4lfe Dude, I wish. The guy that owns it now wants $10,000 for all 3 Rivi's in the video. I'd kill to have this car. It's ridiculously fast from all the stories my dad has told me. He's owned Cobras, Challengers, Cuda's, you name it he's had it. He said this blows the doors off them all. He told me he could tape a $100 bill to the dash, tach it up and if you could reach the money you could have it.
The worst thing about videos like this is that the owners of these vehicles are never likely to get the over inflated sums of money they always seem to want for them, and they will sit there and deteriorate as the owners get old and senile, and when they eventually die and someone wants to clear the land you just know that there will be nothing worth saving.
Of course they don't look new and have bits falling off. They are all older than most of their drivers. When is the last time you saw an all original Lancia with 350k miles on it being used as a DD? There are a hundred thousand Chevy trucks on the road with those numbers. American cars are the most reliable, longest lasting, most well built cars ever put on the road.
Very cool car. Gave a thumbs up. Have a great weekend.
It doesn't matter how the valve covers are oriented, the cylinders are still opposed at a 90° angle. The valve covers on a nailhead are actually just very big and horizontal to the ground on top giving it an awkward appearance, but the pistons still all meet from both sides of the engine in the center.
The man that owns all those classic car's is an Idiot😡😜 he should sell them to folks who would restore and give life back to them!
I know what you mean because it´s the same with older vintage/veteran outboards.....they are NOT rated at the prop but the engine itself compared to todays outboards.But the older ones are far more reliable.
Cheers and take care
Did they take it to the car wash before filming the vid. After 20 years in the open field this pristine state could not be possible.
That carb and spark wires and distributor ain't 20 years old. 5 at most
It got the late 70's early 80's tune up parts on it..............Got a 825 H.P. series double pumper on it,it likes it................it's also 513 inches...........Go Flint...........
ok,what's the deal with these people?if you are not going to use a car anymore just sell it,it won't kill ya,sell it to someone who would love and cherish the car,why do they leave them to rot?it's a crime i say!!!
hey if you think about it, if you fix it up and make it look like new and run like new, in a few more years that would be worth a lot more than you put into it to refurbish it! it would be a good investment!
that's so cool i'm sorry you coulden't get it back someones being selfish with their cars if someone loves a car and wants it back they should get it
Go back over to the owner and lay 50 C notes on his table , tell the greedy meffer .. take it or leave it ...heh sometimes the money talks .
@TheFordsforme The doors have vent windows, and the handles are pull-down, which makes it a '51 - '52. The '47 - '50 Chevys had no vent windows. The '53 had push-button door handles.
Such a shame that many if these cars and trucks simply rust away forgotten. Dont find that here in Canada..
people hoard cars for wrong reason,i agree just sell the cars for the right price,not overcharge so we the people can rebuild the classics.
HOW BEAUTIFUL!!! Can't believe it's sitting in nature, waiting for death to take over slowly!
That's just dumb. Of course it's a V8 given the arrangement of the cylinders. The angle of the valve covers has nothing to do with it.
No, you are certainly not an expert. Any engine in a V configuration with 8 cylinders is a V8. The heads have nothing to with it...
We didn't haha. He said he was selling it for 10 grand. (Along with the other Rivera's in the video) and we went to look at it.
Say what anyone wants to say about modern cars, they will never last like this vintage has
just look at the cabbage around the car, if the car had been put there recently then the cabbage would show signs of it lol
VEEE SIIX love it!!!!!!!
odd how badly his grammar is..'me and my dad'...how about my dad and I or my father and i...ouch!
It's in good shape for sitting so long...hope the bottom isn't all rusted out...Hope you get it back on the road soon!
did you guys buy it back???? I wanna see it on the road!
every few years I'll drive my old 35 5 window coupe Ford... in a dream that I always wish never ends.
I had to stop watching. Any more and I would possibly get sea sick.
Tell me you`ve pulled that old Riviera out and got it going .-and that old Apache
Oh he will eventually sell it............for scrap! Lol...10 grand, what's he smokin?
Must be the special GS model if it has a 425.
The regular Rivs had a 401 Nailhead.
You can buy a turn-key one for 10 grand...
My Great-aunt had a 1964 Buick Wildcat . . . my mom's side of the family liked Buicks, my dad's side liked Mopar! :)
I hate to tell you but 425 in 64 was more like 340 HP at about 4500rpm, the Edelbrock may have added a horse or 2 (but the rochester 4 brl was a great carb)but to get 427HP? It would take some cash and sweat. I love the old Riviera every since I seen one as a kid I loved the stacked hideaway lights
Asa Hodges,The quickest way to get to the 425hp mark is to drop in a later model Chevrolet big block,or a built 455 if one wanted to stay in the Buick-Oldsmobile-Pontiac family.
can u please save the car :) it wold b sad if wold b crushed greeting laurence
Too bad he never parked it in a barn or something.