Winch controller questions: IMO. How do you work a remote switch with gloves on? You have to take your eyes off the operation to make sure you're pressing the right button. With a switch, its tactile - all done through the feel of the fingers. What if someone picks it up and runs the winch at the wrong time? If it falls in the mud? Remote switchers inside the relay boxes are prone to water damage. Remotes are horrible things and not suitable for safe winching. Okay for the very experienced. Dangerous for the newbie.
How do you press the button?…by pressing it. It’s still tactile. One button for in, one for out. Just seems like you just want to use the wired controller out of choice…and that’s fine, but the other reasons are grasping at straws IMO. I dare say that even with the wired controller, right before you winch on or out you’re going to glance at the controller…same as a remote.
C'mon Andrew. Your reason for not wanting a wireless remote winch is flawed. You can just as easily arrange who manages the winch wireless remote as that of the wired control. If you don't have that sorted, then it's a user problem. But like you, I do like the winch control box hidden, and extending the control wire plug where it can be easily access is a must.
At 9:42 when you showed the plug, its just a 4 pin XLR type. Commonly used for power supplies in AV. Easy to purchase a premade extension wire, or make one yourself with some Neutrik plugs. Did find it a bit weird though, as those things just rust in normal studio applications, let alone getting wet in the wild.
Wouldn't the cable winch control put the person in charge of winching in the death zone, remote control they can be in a safe position. But I note your point as well.
(hence why the person controlling the vehicle on which the winch is mounted should ideally control the winch from the drivers seat. - If a "remote" party wants/needs to be director of recovery operations, their deal tool of use should be a 2-way radio, issuing edicts for the participants in the saga (radio coms to spotters, etc is very useful ).. ( NB. if the Wireless (pocketable) remote doesn't have 2-button safe operation it can be a hazard for inadvertent ""pocket presses" - thereby best kept in a safe place when not immediately needed) ) Whenever people are setting; anchors, pulleys, redirects or lines, the winch "should" - not saying this is in any way standard practice - be declutched or otherwise deactivated... (accessible lockable disconnect isn't far from what would be "industry standard" - if it were industry. lol.. )
How do you work the out? What's the difference of sitting in the drivers seat and starting to the side. I love my remote winch controller as my primary. Very difficult to activate it by mistake
Hi Andrew - I see other Aussie channels (4WD 24-7), All 4 Adventure and even Ronny Dahl) all lauding remote controls from a safety point of view. During difficult winching operations you can put some distance between the winch cable/ rope and yourself so that if it or its anchor point let go you are out of the 'kill zone' as they say. For me it is far more important to be paying attention to what you are doing than whether you are using a remote or cable controller. Having said all that I have only used my winch once in 30 years - halfway up a hill stuck in a washout between Ruacana and Epupa falls, I try not get stuck. Which is why I like your troopie build I have always travelled as light as possible - which helps in not getting stuck.
Matt's off-road recovery has had multiple videos where his and his son's winch remotes have interfered with each other and only one winch worked at a time. This all happened while doing a recovery of vehicles in precarious situations, where having two winches running was required simultaneously, so I definitely recommend having a cabled connection.
What's to stop another's remote from still interfering? I'd remove the receiver and throw that thing away. There you go Andrew, we've just saved you another 100g.
I suspect most people over-estimate because they don't take into account the weight that is removed when you replace parts. The bulbar might weigh 60kgs - but you probably remove 15kgs of bumpers and supports so you net out at 45kg. Similar with most of your other mods - you gain weight but not exactly kg for kg - have to account for what is removed in fitment.
Good on ya' for trying different stuff. It would be very easy to, as some other "influencers" do, just throw the same old shopping-list of parts at every new vehicle that comes your way. It's good to give alternative manufacturers some publicity AND it also deters established manufacturers from relying on their reputation instead of constantly developing better products.
I think we over estimated because of the exact reason you said: we always underestimate the accumulated weight of our upgrades so let's account for that when try to guess tthe right number rather than "she'll be right" when actually doing it ourselves.
I recently installed a 14,500lb winch on the Silverado and needed to relocate the solenoid box, similar to the way you did. I also extended the low amperage wiring (like you did in your video)....BUT...I did one important variation.... One of the wires is a constantly "live" wire and in an effort to make the winch unable to be used by some nasty mongrel, I utilised a in-cab switch. This means that the winch cannot be used via the plug-in port without activating the in-cab switch. However, the 2 cordless remotes will still work. I understand what you're saying about the wireless remotes being potentially dangerous, BUT they do enable the operator to stand away from the "line-of-fire" in the event of a mishap. With the cord-operated remote, you always need to be within close proximity to the front of the vehicle with all the risks that that entails.
Andrew. Another lekker video. I would ensure that extension plug /grommet is in fact water proof, not just dust proof. Once you wade across a river, and it fills up, your going to regret not making it fully waterproof.
Weight is a living and breathing thing in my mind .. I'm regularly astounded by some outfits in the 4wd universe .. with an obvious lack of thinking. Weight is like "Speed" anyone can achieve it ... controlling it is a whole different thing !
What’s the difference between using the remote inside the car as the driver in a recovery situation and using the wired controller? Aside from relying on the remote connection, which in my experience has never been an issue.
Agreed. One person in charge of the recovery, concentrating on the recovery, but using a wireless remote. For me, that is usually me, sitting in the drivers seat, in constant communication via radio with my spotters outside.
In the driver seat you cant see as well as if you’re standing outside controlling it, outside you have greater control over the veh as you can see what the winch is doing and make decisions more accurately. This is at least in my experience with larger/military vehicles with poor visibility from inside
@@darrengray2309 fair but in the military world the driver is not the one in command of the veh, he just does what he’s told by the commander who usually has a better view of things either because he’s dismounted or because he’s got unimpaired vision from his position in the veh
I weighed everything as it came off and went on in my LC76 build. The ARB Bull bar was 48KGs incl bash plate. So its lighter than the OA bar. The Toyota bumper that was removed was 27KG
Same here with my Troopy - I removed 26kgs of parts and added 63kgs of TJM bar so was 37kgs heavier - your ARB bar has an extra row of barsand an extra bash plate. I fitted an ARB Deluxe bar to a 200series once and it added 75kgs to the vehicle weight so maybe that's where Andrew got his info from.
@@philg2468 Yes true. My weights were 43KG for the bar, 5KG bash plate and 3KG for the recovery point. Mine is the standard ARB deluxe bar with the fog lights etc.
Loved the video as usual... thank you! I really enjoy your attention to detail When it’s a new vehicle I believe it should be done right first time and the details are everything I get excited as well doing a fit out of a new car every time Cheers
Nice looking bullbar. I also weight everything on my 2019 Troopy. Just for comparison, the TJM bullbar I fitted weighed 63kgs and the original parts I removed weighed 26kgs so on balance 37kgs was added.
Loving the “built to your usage requirements” nature of this build. So many 4WDs I see are heavy duty everything, for most they’ll never need the strength and just limit their towing capacity and payload…
I realized something when you mentioned the autographed vehicle; this build is another variation of a vehicle for you to have available to sell. While we the viewers may not agree with the equipment, there may be a viewer out there that does, and they wouldn’t know how well that you can accommodate their wants without seeing how well the vehicle works as configured and why the components were chosen. Good job, Mr. White; you’re quite the businessman.
It would be cool if the number plate holder was a bit higher, then it would act as a sunblock keeping the rope in good condition. UV light ages them and will likely make that red rope pink quite quickly.
I extended the Winch power cables and mounted the control box inside the engine bay as high as possible on the inner wing, reduces muck and the cable plug is still accessible
😂 Still free and I guess we all agree that Andrew has got some degrees of freedom in his builds that most will never have. Not that he didn't deserve it, just a fact.
Hello folks 👋😎 I have a question .... probably a newbie question but can't find any info on the net and thought that maybe you could help. So is there a reason (beside the money issue) why skid plates aren't in one piece with the bumpers?
Fully agree re the use of remote for winching. What if there was radio intereference from someone elses device, which may trigger the winch? I would find a way to introduce a remote cut off switch to disable the remote function so that accidents do not happen due to radio interference.
Andrew your thinking about remote controllers all wrong. They’re there so you can run the rope out by yourself, be 20m down the track and get take up or give out some slack in the line
It's not wrong. It's another way of looking at it. How do you work a remote switch with gloves on? You have to take your eyes off the operation to make sure you're pressing the right button. With a switch, its tactile - all done through the feel of the fingers. Remotes are horrible things and not suitable for safe winching. Okay for the very experienced. Dangerous for the newbie.
Thank you for all you programs and good advice I tow a Australian 5 th wheel and am always careful on weight eg no roo bar etc went to buy better quality light truck tyres they are61 kg each compared to existing 35/40 kg tyres multiplied x 5 big surprise
Runva's remote controller is a very good option incorporated into their product,for example solo recovery with a sand anchor requires a person to be at the anchor to help it dig in.
Love everything you do as always. I understand the remote winch fear. But look outside the box, you are winching a stump out of the ground, doing a recovery solo etc. It has its uses and can be quite handy. I agree not to pass it around like a toy.
I have a Runva winch and the wiring in side the control box was not secured, so on a trip to Cape York in 2018 with all the corrugated roads the insolation was completely shredded. Which did not become apparent until I tried to use it. Runva did replace the control box under warrant.
Hi Andrew, great vid, BUT......the weight gain estimates provided by my good self and others were based on the question posed in your video "Induction cooking controversy". And hence, have nothing at all to do with your bull bar and any item you mentioned in this video. Please, when you can, take a weight measurement of the batteries etc when you add the induction / gas cooking set-up. Thanks 😃
I extended the which plug into my grille. With the light also on the grille. Then when you activate the winch power in the cab, the green light turns on on the grille to let the operator know the winch is live
I enjoy these videos greatly I know in a previous video you were wanting a ( pickup/Ute) did you ever consider a cab through conversion? That’s what it’s called in the United States anyway you essentially turn a pickup/ Ute into an suv/wagon if you were wanting a box/camper you can gain access even in a regular cab it would need a little extra frame support because the bed and cab often move independently then remove the rear window do some cutting leave a small edge for bolts and seals and or welding and there you have it thanks again for the incredible videos
Your channel is very purist on the old school overlander which is great but how about the canopy builds that seem to be very popular in the AU. If I've missed a previous video where you covered the subject, please direct me to the episode.
I don’t see why you shouldn’t use the wireless controller. You’re not just handing it out to a random. Same as with a wired control. Just a lot better. Cheers for the awesome videos.
Once you hand the wireless controller to someone else you no longer control who has the wireless controller as the person you gave it to can give it to someone else.
I extended my winch control to top of grill and put a gigglepin hd relay behind headlight on the inner wing. The winch was already installed on the vehicle when I purchased it. It had a remote controller which I only discovered when I went to test the winch. It had been left in the centre cubby box. I switched the master switch and the winch spooled in straight away. It dragged the hook through the fairlead before I could turn the master switch off. I discovered the remote under some paperwork had pushed up against the side of the box and had switched itself on. Needless to say while rebuilding the broken winch I removed the remote wiriring and threw the controller away.
Two mods I've done for controlling the winch are an in dash in out switch, and connecting a metallic female trailer plug to the bullbar and the male attachment to the end of the wired controller. The connections on most winch controllers are rubbish at best and the little prongs break easily. IMO you should've had that plug installed on the flat part of the bullbar where it will be better protected from all forms of damage. Also having the control box hidden away prevents easy access for any track side repairs. Looks good but far from practical. Quick question? Will that bullbar protect you from an animal strike? Thanks for sharing
So, does between 100-120kg count as 110!! Lol! Thanks for yet another lovely (relevant) video! I struggle to cope between your videos! And that new b/bar looks great, even to a traditionalist like me. Cant wait for the next installment.
Suggestion, I always put my number plate higher. Over the wind screen and adjust it to the bottom of rooftrack. By doing it I avoid loosing my number plate in the mud.
Does the axle change or catch can jeopardise your new car warranty? A mate of mine with a new Pajero Sport has been warned by the dealer don't fit a catch can?
Attenborough like me has seen the natural world vanish before his eyes. Only the grossly misinformed, most who spend too much time on Facebook (the world's nr.1 enemy) would accuse him of that.
@@4xoverland “The natural world vanish before your eyes”??? not seen any evidence of that in your videos Andrew. For well informed facts and evidence about the worlds ecological systems, the Internationally renowned PhD Ecologist, environmental researcher and Greenpeace founding member Dr Patrick Moore is much preferred to Attenborough, and certainly not Facebook.
Have noticed that a manual winch with a pull pal anchor are quite effective recovery kits, hope Andrew sheds some light on manual (hand) winching one day.
A remote controller cannot be used easily with gloves, without looking at it. Switch controllers are tactile - its all done with feel through the fingers. A remote with no definite on-off actions are horrible and I do not wish to use them.
Hi Andrew! i love your videos. very informative. i notice your centre console fridge snomaster. i can't find it anywhere. can you please let me know where i can get one. or if it's possible if i can order it from you.
Nice stylish bar, integrated light bar would be nice but big round spot lights will alter the whole design which suits your Troopy and gives it a touch of class.
@@4xoverland I'm a Truckie they need to be solid but your a very experienced driver just need to be cautious thanks for the reply I've been following you since your last troopy build but could not afford the patreon part for a while but love your sincere reviews and I have copied a lot of things you have done sorry if I come across a bit blunt sometimes but I love all your work. Regards Paul
Rocket Rod fitted the prototype of this bar to his dual cab cruiser. Should check out what he has put it through. They are more than strong enough if he hasn’t been able to damage it.
I was originally going to flat out disagree with your wired vs wireless stance. But then realised that you are still going to carry the wireless one so the option is open to you in the future, so really it is a harmless preference that you are choosing. I will share that last time I had to run a winch line it was up an extremely steep incline where it had started snowing mid way through my travels. I had to basically run my winch cable constantly out in front under free spool but it was so steep that I couldn't actually pull myself and the line under free spool, so I had to use the winch to spit the line out for me. This was made a lot easier with the wireless controller in my hand as I pulled it out 25m. I could have just spat the line out in front of the car first with a wired controller then dragged it up after the fact but my winch line was in different places / distances each time so being able to just let out what I needed just made the 5/6 pulls I had to do that little bit easier.
Bull bar looks bloody awesome. Why didn’t you go for in cab controls for the Winch? That way you can slap that ugly box in the engine bay. Did that with my hilux, definitely the way to go.
@@RyanYoxo Controlling a winch from a location where one cannot see the winch or the recovery operation is like flying while blindfolded. BTW. I hid the box in the bar.
4xoverland the winch is in front of the car? Can’t you see it? I’m generally confused. Plus you want to be in the car to give a little drive when needed or steer when needed. Just my opinion from living at the foot of the vic high country..
Yes. And the cab is inside the car, from where the winch cannot be seen. And nor can the wheels be seen, or the way the rope is spooling etc. Ive always winched from in, out and around the vehicle, and if it's a tough pull, the bonnet raised to protect the windscreen and driver in the event of equipment failure. To my thinking, the very last place to put a winch controller is inside the cab.
I agree, Andrew is talking about other people using the winch and is dangerous given distractions etc. On your trips Andrew, who else would be using your winch but you?
Hi Andrew Nice video and informative as usual .I have been watching and learning from your builds and taking things on board . What’s your experience with catch can why does it needs to be installed in new cars any evidence that it’s necessary in new cars? Regards Ragesh Brisbane
That blue color is lovely but (Speaking from experience . I had a patrol this color) it is so hot on hot sunny days. Like driving in a big solar oven. It puts a lot of extra strain on the AC system and I would think engine cooling.
My experience with a wireless winch is that they aren't responsive. there is a delay between activation of the button, on startup and releasing the button.
@jim yeats That only refers to the actual beam pattern as displayed on a beam tester. If you look further down the product page under the "Please Note" section you will find even they say for full ADR compliance a wash system & automatic self levelling must be fitted. I'm an automotive design engineer who worked in vehicle design approvals & this regulation has been around for years.
@@gaj5701 Yes I see that now. Still seems very interpretive state to state and how ADR wants to view it. New cars are coming with LED’s without self levelling and washers. Just seems a bit over the top in general. Self levelling headlights and washer systems are one of those things put in place with very little data supporting their use with regard to their ability to actually decrease accidents and fatalities.
@@JimYeats The regulation is specifically for aftermarket units that change the method of beam pattern production as they haven't been approved for use as part of the whole vehicle. On a new vehicle, every technical aspect of the headlamp unit from light intensity to the method of attachment to the overall vehicle type is taken into consideration, which is why you often see the units fitted without the features required for an aftermarket one. As far as local interpretation of ADR, from what I can gather, there's no change for mandatory lamps, only additional ones such as spotties etc.
Winch controller questions: IMO. How do you work a remote switch with gloves on? You have to take your eyes off the operation to make sure you're pressing the right button. With a switch, its tactile - all done through the feel of the fingers. What if someone picks it up and runs the winch at the wrong time? If it falls in the mud? Remote switchers inside the relay boxes are prone to water damage. Remotes are horrible things and not suitable for safe winching. Okay for the very experienced. Dangerous for the newbie.
How do you press the button?…by pressing it. It’s still tactile. One button for in, one for out. Just seems like you just want to use the wired controller out of choice…and that’s fine, but the other reasons are grasping at straws IMO. I dare say that even with the wired controller, right before you winch on or out you’re going to glance at the controller…same as a remote.
C'mon Andrew. Your reason for not wanting a wireless remote winch is flawed. You can just as easily arrange who manages the winch wireless remote as that of the wired control. If you don't have that sorted, then it's a user problem. But like you, I do like the winch control box hidden, and extending the control wire plug where it can be easily access is a must.
At 9:42 when you showed the plug, its just a 4 pin XLR type. Commonly used for power supplies in AV. Easy to purchase a premade extension wire, or make one yourself with some Neutrik plugs. Did find it a bit weird though, as those things just rust in normal studio applications, let alone getting wet in the wild.
Wouldn't the cable winch control put the person in charge of winching in the death zone, remote control they can be in a safe position. But I note your point as well.
(hence why the person controlling the vehicle on which the winch is mounted should ideally control the winch from the drivers seat. - If a "remote" party wants/needs to be director of recovery operations, their deal tool of use should be a 2-way radio, issuing edicts for the participants in the saga (radio coms to spotters, etc is very useful ).. ( NB. if the Wireless (pocketable) remote doesn't have 2-button safe operation it can be a hazard for inadvertent ""pocket presses" - thereby best kept in a safe place when not immediately needed) )
Whenever people are setting; anchors, pulleys, redirects or lines, the winch "should" - not saying this is in any way standard practice - be declutched or otherwise deactivated... (accessible lockable disconnect isn't far from what would be "industry standard" - if it were industry. lol.. )
@@kadmow Yeah pretty much common sense.
How do you work the out? What's the difference of sitting in the drivers seat and starting to the side. I love my remote winch controller as my primary. Very difficult to activate it by mistake
@@ianmoore4327 . Easiet to steer from the drivers seat. Ha ha ha...
Hi Andrew - I see other Aussie channels (4WD 24-7), All 4 Adventure and even Ronny Dahl) all lauding remote controls from a safety point of view. During difficult winching operations you can put some distance between the winch cable/ rope and yourself so that if it or its anchor point let go you are out of the 'kill zone' as they say. For me it is far more important to be paying attention to what you are doing than whether you are using a remote or cable controller.
Having said all that I have only used my winch once in 30 years - halfway up a hill stuck in a washout between Ruacana and Epupa falls, I try not get stuck. Which is why I like your troopie build I have always travelled as light as possible - which helps in not getting stuck.
Matt's off-road recovery has had multiple videos where his and his son's winch remotes have interfered with each other and only one winch worked at a time. This all happened while doing a recovery of vehicles in precarious situations, where having two winches running was required simultaneously, so I definitely recommend having a cabled connection.
What's to stop another's remote from still interfering? I'd remove the receiver and throw that thing away. There you go Andrew, we've just saved you another 100g.
@@MegaWilderness valid point.
These recoveries would have been even more difficult if the winches were operated from a few metre long cable, somewhere far from the recovery site.
Those grey steelies and Road Grippers look great with blue! KEEP'EM!!
I suspect most people over-estimate because they don't take into account the weight that is removed when you replace parts. The bulbar might weigh 60kgs - but you probably remove 15kgs of bumpers and supports so you net out at 45kg. Similar with most of your other mods - you gain weight but not exactly kg for kg - have to account for what is removed in fitment.
Exactly what I did.
Whereas if you’re doing the work yourself you see what is being removed and factor that in (add underestimate the difference).
Good on ya' for trying different stuff.
It would be very easy to, as some other "influencers" do, just throw the same old shopping-list of parts at every new vehicle that comes your way.
It's good to give alternative manufacturers some publicity AND it also deters established manufacturers from relying on their reputation instead of constantly developing better products.
I love the fold up number plate giving access to the winch.
Just wondering when it will fall off.
I think we over estimated because of the exact reason you said: we always underestimate the accumulated weight of our upgrades so let's account for that when try to guess tthe right number rather than "she'll be right" when actually doing it ourselves.
I recently installed a 14,500lb winch on the Silverado and needed to relocate the solenoid box, similar to the way you did. I also extended the low amperage wiring (like you did in your video)....BUT...I did one important variation....
One of the wires is a constantly "live" wire and in an effort to make the winch unable to be used by some nasty mongrel, I utilised a in-cab switch.
This means that the winch cannot be used via the plug-in port without activating the in-cab switch. However, the 2 cordless remotes will still work. I understand what you're saying about the wireless remotes being potentially dangerous, BUT they do enable the operator to stand away from the "line-of-fire" in the event of a mishap. With the cord-operated remote, you always need to be within close proximity to the front of the vehicle with all the risks that that entails.
Yep sick looking bar n lights. And a great little production as well . Filming lighting music 👍🏿
Andrew. Another lekker video. I would ensure that extension plug /grommet is in fact water proof, not just dust proof. Once you wade across a river, and it fills up, your going to regret not making it fully waterproof.
The frequency of the videos in this series is mint keep them coming, cant get enough of it
Thanks Andrew!!
Great video. Clear audio, sharp picture and a great truck 🙌
And that bumper is a work of art
I just love your attention to the details Andrew, I'm loving these videos.
Weight is a living and breathing thing in my mind .. I'm regularly astounded by some outfits in the 4wd universe .. with an obvious lack of thinking.
Weight is like "Speed" anyone can achieve it ... controlling it is a whole different thing !
love the square driving lights Andrew, nice choice young man..
What’s the difference between using the remote inside the car as the driver in a recovery situation and using the wired controller? Aside from relying on the remote connection, which in my experience has never been an issue.
Agreed. One person in charge of the recovery, concentrating on the recovery, but using a wireless remote. For me, that is usually me, sitting in the drivers seat, in constant communication via radio with my spotters outside.
In the driver seat you cant see as well as if you’re standing outside controlling it, outside you have greater control over the veh as you can see what the winch is doing and make decisions more accurately. This is at least in my experience with larger/military vehicles with poor visibility from inside
@@TK42715 there is no way on earth I would give the controller to someone else if I am in the driver's seat
@@darrengray2309 fair but in the military world the driver is not the one in command of the veh, he just does what he’s told by the commander who usually has a better view of things either because he’s dismounted or because he’s got unimpaired vision from his position in the veh
I weighed everything as it came off and went on in my LC76 build. The ARB Bull bar was 48KGs incl bash plate. So its lighter than the OA bar. The Toyota bumper that was removed was 27KG
Same here with my Troopy - I removed 26kgs of parts and added 63kgs of TJM bar so was 37kgs heavier - your ARB bar has an extra row of barsand an extra bash plate. I fitted an ARB Deluxe bar to a 200series once and it added 75kgs to the vehicle weight so maybe that's where Andrew got his info from.
@@philg2468 Yes true. My weights were 43KG for the bar, 5KG bash plate and 3KG for the recovery point. Mine is the standard ARB deluxe bar with the fog lights etc.
Loved the video as usual... thank you!
I really enjoy your attention to detail
When it’s a new vehicle I believe it should be done right first time and the details are everything
I get excited as well doing a fit out of a new car every time
Cheers
Woohoo!! Stocked I guessed right at 110kg!! Bloody good work though, loving this series!!
I weighed my Troopy before and after a trip which included 60km of really sticky mud.
It was 50kg heavier just from the mud.
That is a lot of mud
THANKS John, APPRECIATED.
Nice looking bullbar. I also weight everything on my 2019 Troopy. Just for comparison, the TJM bullbar I fitted weighed 63kgs and the original parts I removed weighed 26kgs so on balance 37kgs was added.
Loving the “built to your usage requirements” nature of this build. So many 4WDs I see are heavy duty everything, for most they’ll never need the strength and just limit their towing capacity and payload…
Another great vid ..............I enjoy the workshop stuff just as much as the overlanding trips.
I realized something when you mentioned the autographed vehicle; this build is another variation of a vehicle for you to have available to sell. While we the viewers may not agree with the equipment, there may be a viewer out there that does, and they wouldn’t know how well that you can accommodate their wants without seeing how well the vehicle works as configured and why the components were chosen. Good job, Mr. White; you’re quite the businessman.
Well done! Love your bar choice and lights - looks good! But a winch make me wince.
Andrew, you’re a genius…
Love your videos! Thanks!
thank you for share your the detailed video
Nicely done, Andrew!
It would be cool if the number plate holder was a bit higher, then it would act as a sunblock keeping the rope in good condition. UV light ages them and will likely make that red rope pink quite quickly.
100% Think you should be able to move it
I extended the Winch power cables and mounted the control box inside the engine bay as high as possible on the inner wing, reduces muck and the cable plug is still accessible
Nice build so far... Should be titled: "let's install free stuff!" ;-)
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😂 Still free and I guess we all agree that Andrew has got some degrees of freedom in his builds that most will never have. Not that he didn't deserve it, just a fact.
@@mazevx2451 Look I am not complaining. Andrew has earned it what he gets for free after is 30+ years in the industry he is a big name.
There’s more currency than just money…
@@shanenorwell8580 True. Every 2/3 years Andrew sells his cars. I guess the freebies add to the profit.
Those lights and bumper look awesome together.
Hi Andrew, you are an excellent cable worker, with those steady hands you should have been a surgeon....haha
Self amalgamating tape wraps are elegant and waterproof and make great fillers if cable is much smaller than the grommet.
Hello folks 👋😎
I have a question .... probably a newbie question but can't find any info on the net and thought that maybe you could help. So is there a reason (beside the money issue) why skid plates aren't in one piece with the bumpers?
Fully agree re the use of remote for winching. What if there was radio intereference from someone elses device, which may trigger the winch? I would find a way to introduce a remote cut off switch to disable the remote function so that accidents do not happen due to radio interference.
I'm the same, remotes are fun, but they don't tend to last long in the bush.
Andrew your thinking about remote controllers all wrong. They’re there so you can run the rope out by yourself, be 20m down the track and get take up or give out some slack in the line
It's not wrong. It's another way of looking at it. How do you work a remote switch with gloves on? You have to take your eyes off the operation to make sure you're pressing the right button. With a switch, its tactile - all done through the feel of the fingers. Remotes are horrible things and not suitable for safe winching. Okay for the very experienced. Dangerous for the newbie.
Thank you for all you programs and good advice
I tow a Australian 5 th wheel and am always careful on weight eg no roo bar etc went to buy better quality light truck tyres they are61 kg each compared to existing 35/40 kg tyres multiplied x 5 big surprise
Hi Andrew, maybe powder coating the bar blue to match the truck would make it look more integrated, if that's the new look that you're after.
I was thinking the same, not sure how long it would last, but it sure would look great.
Runva's remote controller is a very good option incorporated into their product,for example solo recovery with a sand anchor requires a person to be at the anchor to help it dig in.
Love everything you do as always.
I understand the remote winch fear.
But look outside the box, you are winching a stump out of the ground, doing a recovery solo etc.
It has its uses and can be quite handy.
I agree not to pass it around like a toy.
I have a Runva winch and the wiring in side the control box was not secured, so on a trip to Cape York in 2018 with all the corrugated roads the insolation was completely shredded. Which did not become apparent until I tried to use it. Runva did replace the control box under warrant.
Hi Andrew, great vid, BUT......the weight gain estimates provided by my good self and others were based on the question posed in your video "Induction cooking controversy". And hence, have nothing at all to do with your bull bar and any item you mentioned in this video. Please, when you can, take a weight measurement of the batteries etc when you add the induction / gas cooking set-up. Thanks 😃
Loving this build. Favorite so far.
I love this new style
I extended the which plug into my grille. With the light also on the grille. Then when you activate the winch power in the cab, the green light turns on on the grille to let the operator know the winch is live
Andrew your TROOPCARRIER is amazing. The color, the lights, the bullbar, the winch...fantastic.
Thank you for sharing.
I enjoy these videos greatly I know in a previous video you were wanting a ( pickup/Ute) did you ever consider a cab through conversion? That’s what it’s called in the United States anyway you essentially turn a pickup/ Ute into an suv/wagon if you were wanting a box/camper you can gain access even in a regular cab it would need a little extra frame support because the bed and cab often move independently then remove the rear window do some cutting leave a small edge for bolts and seals and or welding and there you have it thanks again for the incredible videos
That's a good looking bar Andrew! Nice to see a 70 series with something other than an ARB bar 😎
Very interesting little rant on your winch operating thoughts mate.
I lol’d at this. It was quite odd. Angry ant.
Your channel is very purist on the old school overlander which is great but how about the canopy builds that seem to be very popular in the AU. If I've missed a previous video where you covered the subject, please direct me to the episode.
Are you considering parabolic springs? I understand they are lighter.
Man, that bar looks sick.
Taking shape
Solder will crack under vibration…you want a double crimp connector… keep up the good work..love my Japanese imported 70 series here in the states…
Andrew, did you consider mounting the winch at the back of the Troopie, pulling the vehicle back out of trouble rather than further into it ?
Wonder how the bar will perform when u hit the first roo vs the arb bar.
Never know till you give it a go! Animal strikes are never identical though, so impossible to compare.
I don’t see why you shouldn’t use the wireless controller. You’re not just handing it out to a random. Same as with a wired control. Just a lot better. Cheers for the awesome videos.
Once you hand the wireless controller to someone else you no longer control who has the wireless controller as the person you gave it to can give it to someone else.
I've seen interference with wireless controllers when doing dual pulls with two winches on different vehicles.
@@thelandcruiserproject I saw that happen on Matt's Off Road Recovery RUclips channel.
I would keep both around, think there will be situations for using either.
Hey Andrew, Why didn’t you go in cab switching for yr winch controller? Much cleaner and easier to operate, don’t knock it until you’ve tried it.
I extended my winch control to top of grill and put a gigglepin hd relay behind headlight on the inner wing. The winch was already installed on the vehicle when I purchased it. It had a remote controller which I only discovered when I went to test the winch. It had been left in the centre cubby box. I switched the master switch and the winch spooled in straight away. It dragged the hook through the fairlead before I could turn the master switch off.
I discovered the remote under some paperwork had pushed up against the side of the box and had switched itself on. Needless to say while rebuilding the broken winch I removed the remote wiriring and threw the controller away.
Andrew it looks as if you have a well organised and well equipped workshop, how about a tour and some advice on what's worth having in it.
Two mods I've done for controlling the winch are an in dash in out switch, and connecting a metallic female trailer plug to the bullbar and the male attachment to the end of the wired controller.
The connections on most winch controllers are rubbish at best and the little prongs break easily.
IMO you should've had that plug installed on the flat part of the bullbar where it will be better protected from all forms of damage.
Also having the control box hidden away prevents easy access for any track side repairs. Looks good but far from practical.
Quick question?
Will that bullbar protect you from an animal strike?
Thanks for sharing
how come you don't have customised number plates?
So, does between 100-120kg count as 110!! Lol!
Thanks for yet another lovely (relevant) video! I struggle to cope between your videos!
And that new b/bar looks great, even to a traditionalist like me. Cant wait for the next installment.
Suggestion, I always put my number plate higher. Over the wind screen and adjust it to the bottom of rooftrack. By doing it I avoid loosing my number plate in the mud.
Does the axle change or catch can jeopardise your new car warranty? A mate of mine with a new Pajero Sport has been warned by the dealer don't fit a catch can?
Beautiful bar. For the realistically slim chance you will have a serious strike, the weight saving is a definite risk worth accepting.
James Bond number plate !! Love it
I don't understand. Please explain.
My misses just asked me: “Is this guy the David Attenborough of 4x4ing?”. Haha.
Love your videos and listening to your knowledge
Andrew knows and understands well of what he speaks whereas Attenborough is just a scaremongering propagandist
Jacks if that’s you’re opinion of DA then I would assume you also hold the opinion that the earth is flat
Attenborough like me has seen the natural world vanish before his eyes. Only the grossly misinformed, most who spend too much time on Facebook (the world's nr.1 enemy) would accuse him of that.
@@4xoverland
“The natural world vanish before your eyes”??? not seen any evidence of that in your videos Andrew.
For well informed facts and evidence about the worlds ecological systems, the Internationally renowned PhD Ecologist, environmental researcher and Greenpeace founding member Dr Patrick Moore is much preferred to Attenborough, and certainly not Facebook.
What brand of centre console fridge are you running?
Awe man, I was pretty close at my estimate of 180lbs. Good on the winner🏆
I liked your soldering 👍🏻
Have noticed that a manual winch with a pull pal anchor are quite effective recovery kits, hope Andrew sheds some light on manual (hand) winching one day.
You could simply enjoy the remote winch controller and put the corded one in the glove box Andrew. Yes.
A remote controller cannot be used easily with gloves, without looking at it. Switch controllers are tactile - its all done with feel through the fingers. A remote with no definite on-off actions are horrible and I do not wish to use them.
Hey Andrew
Could you do a quick review of the performance of the headlights please
I hope he does, getting your lights right was always a bugger.
That winch speech almost reminded me of someone scared of leaving the city cause they’re scared of bears… holy fuck, it’s gonna be ok dude.
Hahaha. “Talking to your MATES gggrrrrr!”. Lol. Stand by now for the video responding to all the negative comments about winch control.
Hi Andrew! i love your videos. very informative. i notice your centre console fridge snomaster. i can't find it anywhere. can you please let me know where i can get one. or if it's possible if i can order it from you.
Nice stylish bar, integrated light bar would be nice but big round spot lights will alter the whole design which suits your Troopy and gives it a touch of class.
Hi Andrew the bullbar looks a lot lighter do you think it will do the job it is made for .
It will. Is it as strong as the ARB? I doubt it. But how strong does it really need to be?
@@4xoverland I'm a Truckie they need to be solid but your a very experienced driver just need to be cautious thanks for the reply I've been following you since your last troopy build but could not afford the patreon part for a while but love your sincere reviews and I have copied a lot of things you have done sorry if I come across a bit blunt sometimes but I love all your work. Regards Paul
Rocket Rod fitted the prototype of this bar to his dual cab cruiser. Should check out what he has put it through. They are more than strong enough if he hasn’t been able to damage it.
You can still have control with the remote in YOUR own hand. Just saying!
fantastical
I was originally going to flat out disagree with your wired vs wireless stance. But then realised that you are still going to carry the wireless one so the option is open to you in the future, so really it is a harmless preference that you are choosing.
I will share that last time I had to run a winch line it was up an extremely steep incline where it had started snowing mid way through my travels. I had to basically run my winch cable constantly out in front under free spool but it was so steep that I couldn't actually pull myself and the line under free spool, so I had to use the winch to spit the line out for me. This was made a lot easier with the wireless controller in my hand as I pulled it out 25m. I could have just spat the line out in front of the car first with a wired controller then dragged it up after the fact but my winch line was in different places / distances each time so being able to just let out what I needed just made the 5/6 pulls I had to do that little bit easier.
Bull bar looks bloody awesome. Why didn’t you go for in cab controls for the Winch? That way you can slap that ugly box in the engine bay. Did that with my hilux, definitely the way to go.
Because from the cab, you can't see the winch. IMO, another bad idea.
4xoverland I’m not following
@@RyanYoxo Controlling a winch from a location where one cannot see the winch or the recovery operation is like flying while blindfolded. BTW. I hid the box in the bar.
4xoverland the winch is in front of the car? Can’t you see it? I’m generally confused. Plus you want to be in the car to give a little drive when needed or steer when needed. Just my opinion from living at the foot of the vic high country..
Yes. And the cab is inside the car, from where the winch cannot be seen. And nor can the wheels be seen, or the way the rope is spooling etc. Ive always winched from in, out and around the vehicle, and if it's a tough pull, the bonnet raised to protect the windscreen and driver in the event of equipment failure. To my thinking, the very last place to put a winch controller is inside the cab.
I agree, Andrew is talking about other people using the winch and is dangerous given distractions etc. On your trips Andrew, who else would be using your winch but you?
I don't know. Im old fashioned that way. Nothing wrong with a winch controller switch in the hand.
Nice bullbar,FYI checkout overland bound, transformer kitchen, just a thought
Thank you, I just had a look at "overland bound" some good stuff.
Looks great!
That bull bar looks fantastic!
However, a bull bar’s first task is to protect the radiator. That said, isn’t the the grill opening too large?
most bulls wouldn't fit through it :P
Most Aussie animals bounce off the bull bar.
It wont protect much.... The whole front end will be gone. there pointless and for looks only.
Hi Andrew
Nice video and informative as usual .I have been watching and learning from your builds and taking things on board . What’s your experience with catch can why does it needs to be installed in new cars any evidence that it’s necessary in new cars?
Regards
Ragesh Brisbane
That blue color is lovely but (Speaking from experience . I had a patrol this color) it is so hot on hot sunny days. Like driving in a big solar oven. It puts a lot of extra strain on the AC system and I would think engine cooling.
Great content. Love it👌
My experience with a wireless winch is that they aren't responsive. there is a delay between activation of the button, on startup and releasing the button.
Cruiser looks good. How did you take the shot @2:00?
If you look at the shadow, you can see the camera is on a mounted system.
@@filipevieira2697 Thanks. Wondering how it is 'invisible' to the camera though shadow shows it is mounted on bumper directly in front of camera.🤷
Operation 2.21 Jiggawatts is back!
How much more weight will the self levelling & wash system be that you'll obviously be fitting to make the headlights legal?
@jim yeats That only refers to the actual beam pattern as displayed on a beam tester. If you look further down the product page under the "Please Note" section you will find even they say for full ADR compliance a wash system & automatic self levelling must be fitted. I'm an automotive design engineer who worked in vehicle design approvals & this regulation has been around for years.
@@gaj5701 Yes I see that now. Still seems very interpretive state to state and how ADR wants to view it. New cars are coming with LED’s without self levelling and washers. Just seems a bit over the top in general. Self levelling headlights and washer systems are one of those things put in place with very little data supporting their use with regard to their ability to actually decrease accidents and fatalities.
@@JimYeats The regulation is specifically for aftermarket units that change the method of beam pattern production as they haven't been approved for use as part of the whole vehicle. On a new vehicle, every technical aspect of the headlamp unit from light intensity to the method of attachment to the overall vehicle type is taken into consideration, which is why you often see the units fitted without the features required for an aftermarket one. As far as local interpretation of ADR, from what I can gather, there's no change for mandatory lamps, only additional ones such as spotties etc.
At least you got plenty of practice soldering and desoldering the plug.
Satire.