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- Опубликовано: 26 апр 2024
- In this episode of Minutes With we sat down with Antoinette Mutabazi, who survived the Rwandan genocide in 1994. She told us about the horror she witnessed during the 100 days of genocide, what happened to her family and the one thing that helped her to move on...
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With thanks to the Holocaust Memorial Day Trust, the charity that promotes and supports Holocaust Memorial Day in the UK, www.hmd.org.uk/
and Antoinette Mutabazi from Youth With A Mission, an international volunteer movement of Christians from many backgrounds, cultures and traditions. www.ywamengland.org/
@@anona8749 IT'S LIKE ANUDDAH SHOAH
Subtitles?
This is a harrowing recount of what humans are capable of, because of divisions in society.
So subtitles, are you trying to make a point? A Political point?
Good lord. I've seen the documentaries, the movies, read the stories but this hits harder.
This is really eye opening, I remember
The news downplaying this whole genocide event. Makes me feel blessed beyond belief and hope other people see how lucky they got it. The value of human life is so low to these people who's hearts are so deeply poisoner with blind hatred. How do you change people's way of thinking when this kind of hate is breed for generations and becomes just a way of life. .???
The crazy thing is if you walked past her in a store you would never know any of this story, this is why it is important to be kind to people around you
I was thinking the very same thing. We should love our neighbours as we love ourselves.
Agreed!!
This is actually my life credo. While some people perceive me as weak, I know better.
@@martas9977 Don't change Marta.
@@moore1523 💚
Watching a baby feed on its beheaded mother is an unfathomable level of trauma.
Truly.
it really is. i had to pause the video for a moment
At that moment I paused the video and started to imagine the scenario in my head,
God...we humans are devil incarnate
I agree, hearing this literally blew me away, I can't imagine witnessing such horror
@@michaelidara3328 Social media has proven this to me. The amount of vile hate towards others fir no reason other than a difference of opinion, crazy
"What happened to your family?" The question hits her right in the heart that almost left her literally breathless.
“Forgiveness is the key to your freedom” after hearing her recall the most brutal and terrifying time period in her life really meant something to me. What an amazing woman.
"How are you today?"
And she straightens up and says "I am alive. I am doing great. I am thriving." I admire her so much.
@The Unvaccinated youre here too lmao
@Valu You aren't smart, you shouldn't try.
She's truly amazing.
@Valu will you give any reason for your comment?
Well said...beautiful woman....
"My father told us not to hide together, so if we were caught, we both wouldn't be killed" absolutely broke my heart. Imagine having to say that to your own children
When she talked about how her brother was shot hit me the most.
well it’s pretty easy to imagen when you think about yourself in a genocide
She also said that her father survived. I can't imagine the survivor's guilt he must have, knowing that his 2 sons and wife were killed. I know there's no way he could have saved them. I think of him, and I hope that he knows that, too.
That means you have given up. You are not sure you will be able to see them again. You are just trying. So painful...
Thr pressure he had
Both my parents are survivors but what stuns me most is the courage and power these people have to preach forgiveness . The pain Tutsi’s endured in 1994 is beyond human comprehension.
Forgiveness is all you have when you suffer crimes...either that or die a bitter vine on a soured root...oppressors may take your life...but it is up to you to give them your Soul and if you can't Forgive whether you are dead or alive you've given them your Soul. That was something I couldn't live with. But I will admit it took a while...I dreamt about committing murder many times, making my oppressor the oppressed until one time I woke up and realized 1.) that I had actually been dreaming of murdering someone and 2.) I realized I had been having this dream over and over and had never realized it and 3.) how evil my dream was...(and I do mean evil I literally saw myself in the dream as some sort of "Regan" possessed. That's right from "The Exorcist" movie THAT Regan...and my head did a full 365 and my evil self looked at me straight in the eye just before I pulled the trigger on the gun I was holding in my dream...woke me right up. Had that dream for years before I actually knew I was dreaming it over and over. Never dreamt it afterwards. It spooks me to this day just thinking about it. But it was a clear message. G*d was not messing around. I either forgave...or, I was "Regan" it was just THAT clear. Do you see what had happened to my Soul, my soured and embittered Soul...as John Lennon once sang "I just had to let it go..." Forgiveness is NEVER about "them" the oppressor it is about surviving the pain of what they do to us...Forgiveness is/was about me and every survivor. People think it is generosity. Kindness, sure, but it's much deeper than that. It's pure survival. Pure greed in a sense...the greed that says the choice of LIFE is better than the choice of Death.
@@ramblinrose8Forgiveness is what transforms you from victim to survivor
Forgiveness is a gift you give yourself.
I am not sure if you live in Rwanda or go there/have been there so forgive me if I am telling you something you already know, but my father is a Rwandese Tutsi from Gisenyi who survived, and when I have gone a couple of times in my life to visit I noticed every morning wherever we went (Kigali, Gisenyi, Butare) there were 100's if not 1000's of men in orange (some pink) jumpsuits cleaning up the streets and maintaining the city. I asked my father what it was, as I had never seen prisoners cleaning cities in any other country, under what seemed to be little supervision and so openly. He told me they were those convicted of Genocide, and this was the program established in order for them to repent and repay for the damage they inflicted on their own people and country as a whole. It struck me, that not only was this a thing, but that the way my father spoke about it was with complete forgiveness, and clearly the public shared this view as no one was treating these prisoners any differently or even looking at them with anger/disdain/hurt (it had been said before but I think I was too young to really understand how profound that is). History usually tells a different story; there is typically revenge and a violent counter-reaction. I asked him if he ever met Hutus/other extremists/genocide perpetrators that he suspected actually managed to avoid conviction for their crimes (many fled abroad much like the victims, and have settled all over), and he told me he had, and I asked him if he was angry about it and he said "it is very difficult, but we were all told from the beginning and have understood that forgiveness is the only way we can all heal". It is really cool to see you observed the same thing, and I hope you and your family are well.
Hutsi’s not Tutsi’s
19:15 being able to forgive someone who did that is something I myself would never be able to do. Massive respect for this woman.
My dear, it’s harder holding on than letting go. My parents were also affected by this. My mom said if it hadn’t been for God. She wouldn’t have been alive. It took over 20+ years to truly become a survivor and not a victim anymore.
You would die in your hatred. Forgiveness is for you my love. I've held so much unforgiveness and bitterness in my life over some things that has literally led to illness. I imagine what something of this magnitude would do to someone if they didn't let it go..
interviewer: how are you today?
her: i am alive
this is way more meaningful than many would understand.
Such a simple but powerful statement
Weird that some people would think that she can speak without being alive.
I'm hoping for her mental and emotional contentment and resilience
This has profound meaning,the gift of Life. Never take it for granted.
That's always my response to that question... I'm alive
This woman studied, got a job, educates people whilst fighting the most abhorrent trauma imaginable and can say that she is thriving. Nothing less than incredible and completely exceptional.
She is incredible. Deserves everything good in life
Amen
@@amymuchko7106 1
This woman is remarkable. God bless you.
🙏
She reminds me of my mum, who is also a survivor of the Rwanda genocide. To share such a traumatic story is a level of strength too high that there is no words for it.
I was in Rwanda in early 2020, while I was there I was stunned by the beauty of the country in each of the cities I visited, from Kibuye to Kigali all the way to Kayonza. The genocide is a horrific part of their history but Rwanda stays strong. The strength and kindness of the people who survived never ceases to amaze me.
As a Rwandan citizen i thank you for the honesty
You weren't talking to survivors, you met and talked with the evil folks who carried it out ....
@@tylertheurer9122 There's still Tutsis alive in Rwanda today. And not every Hutu commited murder. Not everyone in Rwanda today is evil or played a part in the genocide, that is an incredibly ridiculous statement to make.
Is it relatively safe in Rwanda?
@@Lemonade_Stand_ It is very very safe. It's ranked the 11th safesty country in Africa
It’s crazy how SHE talks about forgiveness while I’m over here hoping those men suffer the most painful realm of hell for eternity.
Yeah, well it's what you have to do in order to be free mentally/emotionally/spiritually. It's NOT excusing it, it's not letting it take up space in you anymore and spreading love into the world. Overcoming evil with good.
I have PTSD from being beaten, starved, raped, emotionally abused for years. This is what I've learned.
@@annasthoughtsandmusicalpar2239 wow, well said !!!
I’d never be able to do that. WOW.
When I was hurt and betrayed by a loved one, my hurt, anger and regret was soo deep. Every day I woke with tears in my eyes. Every night I went to bed crying. Eventually my every waking hour was filled with what had happened to me. I was so deep in depression that I was not functioning. One day I was scrolling thru someone Facebook and came across a quote: Forgiveness gives you wings. It's a profound truth. Regret, anger etc ultimately weighs you down, like a heavy giant boulder. I was able to be happy and free again by forgiving.
@@chicpotpie3494 AMEN! I learned the same thing after going through extremely traumatic domestic abuse. Coming back to Jesus Christ was what really helped me to be able to do that though.
As a child I was always afraid of ghost and the paranormal. But as I grew older and learning about human cruelty, I can't help but find humans scarier than any other creature.
Demons I get but humans.....
LITERALLY!!!!
my mother has a very negative view of the world because of things like this. what people do to each other. no monster is scarier than man-kind.
yup.
Absolutely. My children will always know that mommy is here to love and protect them. My little girls are my entire world and the thought of them ever being hurt is enough to break my heart. I can’t imagine having to see all of this.
The dark side of humanity has no words. What a brave lady and I pray she manages to find mental peace.
When the interviewer asks Antoinette “How are you today?” and she replies, “I am alive.” I broke down crying thinking of the horrors this amazing woman and her family had and continues to endure today. Sending much ❤ and hope to you all. Your story has touched and inspired so many people.
"And how are you today?" "I am alive." Full body chills. I can't even imagine coming out of something like that with the strength this woman has
What a testimony of endurance!!
Ask any veteran soldier and soldier how lots of them get treated like garbage after seeing such things.
not to this level
@@iAmNothingness how are they treated like garbage compared to the rest of the population? They get free healthcare, education, and are worshipped by politicians. Maybe during the Vietnam War they were, but today they're treated pretty well. Whereas civilians who go through traumatic situations have no guarantee of healthcare or no prestige for what they went through..
why do u think mexicans are hard workers.
I have a friend who survived the Rwandan genocide. He was held at gunpoint at the roadside and forced to dig his own grave. He was almost done, minutes away from being shot and dumped into the hole he dug, when suddenly the heavens opened and torrential rain flooded the area. The downpour was so heavy, in a moment, people scattered in all directions for shelter. My friend also hurried away, too afraid to look behind him and anticipating a bullet in his back any second....it never came.
Holy fuck
that's a miracle from the heaven
woh
And then they all clapped!
Nice story but that’s honestly just pure luck - considering over 800k people were killed mercilessly.
This is so heartbreaking
I’m a Nigerian and this is my first time hearing this it’s so sad our brothers and sisters went through this hell😥
The northern Nigerian Christians are also being slaughtered on daily basis by the Islamist
How is it that when I have a minor fork in the road of my life I melt down but this woman can see horrors beyond man and heaven and be okay enough to keep going. Amazing strength and perseverance on her part.
Really puts into perspective our first world problems.
Because when a person is thrown into such horrific situations you have no choice but to survive or die …
As a Tutsi genocide survivor too, all I can tell you is that you are stronger than you think, if all you have left of your extended family are your younger siblings/nephew and you saw people sacrificing themselves for you to live you will find the strength to raise them and if you are the only one left you will not think of suicide, only of how you can make sure that the memories of your family and how they died will live on, and that motivates to you live on.
My friend lived there. She lost many family members. She escaped and had been raped and a machete was used on her thigh bone. I don’t know how she survived. This woman loves EVERY day and tackles it with hunger amd awe. She loves life. Always has a smile on her face! She became a nurse here to help others. Cecille. I love how strong you are girl! God bless you!
Your friend was a very strong woman and inspires me cause I have PTSD which I struggle with every day. Hope I can get past it.
Hi Ramona I had tears in my eyes hearing about your friend. I had watched a video about a survivor just before. I am so proud of both that they lived to tell the tale. They have turned hate to Love which helps them and all of us. Light and Love Along Your Way.xxx
give cecille a hug from a fellow nurse :-)
So many people suffered or were killed..A million deaths in three months! Yet very little attention of the situation was given us by the so called western news media at the time. Average people in the west knew something bad was going on, yet big news media outlets wouldn't really report it. WHY?
It's good that people know what happened in Rwuanda, but at the same time I feel it's a kind of a social porn clickbaits with these videos. Especially as there is no report of peace, or how these nations and tribes interact with each other today.
Oh my goodness! 🥺 Thank you for telling her story ❤️
African history is not discussed enough. Full stop. What an amazing women.
Where is it not discussed enough?
@@joshryder7242 everywhere
@@aa-gn6zn maybe because it doesnt matter to our nation and we would rather learn about the important countrys in the world and their history
@@Fraudkuna. that's a pretty naive view. World history is important to every nation, politics of nations can slowly impact any other. Whether you want to hear it or not its true. I for one would rather be informed than insular
@@Fraudkuna. you make zero sense
This woman is beyond the definition of strength compassion and understanding.
ANTOINETTE MUTABAZI,- just watched this interview. I cannot begin to comprehend the depths of despair, fear, trauma you went through. You are the strongest and bravest person I have ever come across. I wish you only Peace and happiness and much love and God's Blessings always. ❤❤❤ X
Is that her name ?
I appreciate how she stopped and corrected herself sometimes when she was telling her story and mentioning the Hutu she made a point to say "the killers" rather than "the Hutu". It really showcases a willingness to see individuals and judge them on their own faults and merits.
Exactly!
Apparently, some of the more moderate Hutus were murdered by their own brethren as well.
Ya she is truly an angel
Seeing so much empathy and consideration after all she's been through. It's incredible.
@@rosvlinds Exactly! And a person like that lady's a true BAD-ASS in my eyes; we need more like her in this world.
@@rosvlinds IMHO that lady can also be a teacher, even if discussing street smarts, can come in quite handy.
Just hearing the story of that mother beheaded and her baby nursing while the mother is dead is heartbreaking.
I have a small baby girl myself and this story completely destroyed me. My heart broke into a million pieces. I've been crying for two days and hugging my baby tighter than ever...
That was the most awful one to me too.
Especially when you've nursed your baby's, I struggled to keep my shit together when I heard that. I hope her baby made it out okay, all though I doubt it.
@@ciarajones4970 Unlikely, even if another survivor picked up the baby they most likely were caught later on.
@@YvngMeechii thought so, I don't understand how someone can brutally murder people like that, let alone poor innocent children.
I’ve read about what happened, but I’ve never heard a first hand account. This is one of the most horrific things I’ve ever heard described. She is stronger than almost anyone I’ve ever met. What a strong and beautiful soul.
How she can have any level of forgiveness just shows what a beautiful person she is and a much better person than I.
The things she witnessed no human should ever had to witness, never mind as a 12 year old child. To hear what happened to her baby brother, her mother and her other brother and the traumatic things she saw is just absolutely harrowing, vile, digusting and so so sad. How can another human carry out such attrociaties on another human? I just cant comprehend it. I'm just so happy she still has her father and one of her brothers who survived. What a powerful, brave, courageous woman.
Seeing that she only started to cry when she said she was too afraid to save the baby... god. Poor lady, she clearly is still an empathetic, caring person despite what she went through. I'm not sure if I would.
silence, white girl. you do not understand our minds.
@@hamwamson7580 did you live through the genocide? if not, then you don't understand either
@@joseanurkkalainen2832 they deleted their comment
to go through something so dark and come out hopeful, its a strength i cant even imagine
I think that seeing the suffrage of people. Especially people that looks like you makes you more empathetic. Our minds may not want to be, but our hearts know and understand what that kind of suffering does/can do to other people. Showing empathy outwardly, is somewhat of a cathartic action. When someone that has experienced extreme trauma doesn’t show that empathy, that doesn’t make them bad or different, they may truly suffer inwardly.
Had never heard about this genocide in Rwanda. I feel like more people should know about it. It’s awful the sickening evil human beings can show
Yeah I’d heard of this film but never knew what it’s about. Will probably check it out
There’s Hotel Rawanda, and there’s another movie sometimes when it rains in April.
Thanks for your recommendations!
And the documentary called _“Ghosts of Rwanda”._
kagame.a mort
I remember learning about this Genocide, I watched the movie “Hotel Rwanda.” I was 9 or 10 and completely horrified. So to have actually lived through this…that’s a level of terror and trauma that is impossible to wrap my mind around. My heart goes out to this woman. She survived and is able to work through that trauma. I’m glad she decided to share her story.
There is a movie called "Sometimes in April." I'm telling you, it's a gut-wrenching account of the genocide. You feel like you're actually there, it's that good.
You can see the inner turmoil and panic as she's recounting the things she saw. In the end she said forgiveness is the key to freedom. I've been wronged in my life, nothing of that magnitude but I know that it isn't about the other person. I've forgiven people for hurting me because it releases the mental energy I'm diverting towards being angry at them. It frees up a part of my mind to live again and not be consumed by hatred. It really does help. It doesn't mean you ever have to tell them or interact with them ever again because they are obviously bad for you but it does mean you get to sleep with a slightly lighter heart at night.
Definitely agree, it's the only way to true liberation.
Truly terrifying what people are capable of. This woman is tougher than I'll ever be.
African women in general are unbelievable when it comes to strength
@@tjm9565 dont make this about race
Same here
Humans are the worst beasts on the planet
@@whitedom2041 It ain't about race, it's about CULTURE and SURROUNDINGS.
The hole of small children being set on fire to burn all of them alive must be one of the worst things I've ever heard. The pain, the guilt of the parent the killers spotted, the screams....this is humanity at its absolute worst.
I'm glad she's thriving, though. After everything she went through, she deserves to be thriving.
I don’t know if you can thrive per say after this type of trauma. I’ve experienced far less than her but some pretty horrific things. The pain may erode… & I wouldn’t say it’s just surviving… but it’s not thriving… it’s something in between if you get help.
@@a.evelyn5498 Yeah because you know her.
@@a.evelyn5498 you're projecting so fucking hard on this poor woman, my god. Mind your own business beloved
@@user-ov1ue2bx5x wth there are just trying to acknowledge on how much trama the woman has to go through everyday why are you being so rude?
@@user-ov1ue2bx5x she literally says in the video how she constantly gets flashbacks every year- each april. that's for sure not thriving.
when the reporter asked, "how are you?" and she said, "i am alive" blew me away and moved me so much. after what she had endured, her answer was so full of hope and strength and resilience and this brief insight into her optimism despite the horrors she faced made me understand her gratitude for life, and ultimately her drive to continue living it because she's here, and she survived. and that is so empowering and so beautiful. i wish this woman everything good and everything she deserves and so much more. because she's here, and she's alive
Her resilience is amazing. No child, no person, should suffer the trauma she was subjected to. It's horrific.
What's also disturbing is that both tribes live together now, so many people have neighbours who killed their family members.
I would never forgive them.
What caused the genocide why do they hate each other?
@gothnix they had to carry ID cards they must of not been able to tell the difference between tribes so they must of not even been that different
@@fletcherrichmond5143 The German and Belgian colonizers fabricated the racial differences between the two groups. They decided that the Tutsi were closer to the white race and therefore higher up in the hierarchy of races.
@@marshallnay thanks I've done some reading on it since I watched this video the fact the rewanada and Bosnian genocide paractally happend at the same time is fucked.
Listening to her has made me realise I should really never ever complain about going through a bad day.
Um ok, but your emotions are valid
Just cuz someone's bad day is "worse" than yours doesn't mean it invalidates it, we all have different boiling points and we should never compare it to others.
@@unloyal4847 lol what we have and what they have is u comparable , we have so much more than they do and I can never be unhappy and ungrateful seeing what these people go through and what I have on my plate
@@xtcchewy2483 Thats not really the case, no matter where you stand on the hierarchy may it be high or low you have the right to feel sad and unhappy, sure you can feel grateful that you have more than what others have but you shouldn't kick yourself because of it.
Why do you think we have suicides on all groups? Should we ignore all those that took their lives just because they were wealthy?
We all have different tipping points its what makes us human, nothing fits like a puzzle when it comes to our self being, feel sad when you feel sad and feel grateful when you feel grateful.
@@unloyal4847 suicide of the wealthy is just plain selfishness and ungrateful ness when people would kill to be in their position, i am extremely grateful and thankful for what I have and what my family has worked hard to give me and I’d never think of being ungrateful or unhappy especially as my parents sacrificed so much of their dreams for me . We are too soft as people tbh. I see your ping as people have different tipping points but we need to learn how to bare our weight and be stronger
I watched a documentary about that genocide once and it's almost unbearable to watch and hear what happened to the people. I can hardly bare the cruelty....
Thank you so much for your testimony, you are incredibly strong and amazing! ❤
What was the name of the documentary?
How can things like this happen? How can people kill children, their own wives? This woman is so strong and has experienced more hardship than anyone conceivably should. She’s brave for telling her story and awareness is key. I’m heartbroken for them. 💔
Another case of group think. Once it becomes acceptable to a big enough group its a wrap. Humanity is out the window
YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? I HAVE ANSWERS!!-Perversion, death and murder increasing! ...LAWS are made to protect people and increase or maintain quality of life for humans.. There is a growing REBELLIOUS trend to TRASH laws, including moral ones, as mentioned in the bible. 99% of preachers don't even support ALL 10 commandments, and many don't support even any by their LAWLESS heresy. CRIME & CLERGY CONNECTION = TRICKLE DOWN IMMORALITY.. "When people’s thinking is controlled by the sinful self, they are against God, because they refuse to obey God’s law and really are not even able to obey God’s law." ROMANS 8:7 Society will increasingly SUFFER! The barbarians are coming, the barbarians are coming...!!! The preachers lead the charge!! "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you shall be no PRIEST to me: seeing you have forgotten the LAW of your God, I will also forget your children.” Hos 4:6 Christianity is mostly now populated by GULLIBLE , DECEIVED, FANATIC VICTIMS who have never read even the whole new testament once. They spend almost ALL of their weekly waking minutes (6720) influenced by perverted , depraved worldly culture and , if they attend church, learn a bunch of ambiguous, abstract, obscure, religious lingo & cliches for teaching by inept preachers who are deceived modern, law trashing, bible warping Pharisees. RESULT??? MATT 24:24...
It was trough constant propaganda that the genocide happened,it just shows how bad can a propaganda can be if it is not censored,crazy thing is even wives or husband that were Tutsi were killed by their Hutsu spouse with their mix blood kids ,how brainwashed can you be by propaganda that you killed your Tutsi wife or husband and your kids because they are not Tutsi , propaganda also is the reason nazi overtook germani in the ww2 .
France provided the weapons for that genocide. Dutch and German divide and conquer colonial strategies set these once peaceful cohabitating ethnic groups at each other's neck from colonial rule to the point of that genocide. I'm not trying to lay blame on European foreigners but it sounded like you wanted to know the origins of this sad history
Yes, Rwanda was another nasty case of Us vs Them…Jared Diamond in a comprehensive historical undertaking writes about, COLLAPSE, HOW SOCIETIES CHOOSE TO FAIL OR SUCCEED.
When addressing the conditions in Rwanda pre-genocide, Professor Diamond expounds on multiple aggravating circumstances, one being high density population. Quote: “…population and environmental problems created by non-sustainable resource use will ultimately get solved in one way or another: if not by pleasant means of our own choice, then by unpleasant and unchosen means…”.
The world population in 1994 was 5.66 billion; world population as of end of 2023 was 8.04 billion and rising.
When population increases dramatically, availability of resources becomes a survival issue that the poorly educated cannot comprehend, nor address…so unfortunately, We the members of a community, revert to an Us vs Them mentally…Them being thought of as ‘cockroaches’…no disrespect to real cockroaches intended. It is literally only human primates that are destructive, invasive, exploitive, malicious, and murderous!
And global population is still increasing - Just how smart are human primates, past and present, in every country? In the future, are We capable of comprehending the strain We put upon limited resources and actually adjust our innate primitive behaviours for the better of We the community!
Setting children on fire, I just can't understand how people can be so inhumane and cruel. And to think the people that took part in these acts are walking around living their normal lives.
That part especially made my stomach twist with queasiness, poor babies
Yeah... Well it somewhat makes me think of gangs we have here in the U.S., and to a little lesser extent, Antifa and BLM who are basically protected by our government.
@@annasthoughtsandmusicalpar2239 Oh you mean like the kkk used to do?? Cutting babies out of the stomach of mothers they just hanged? The same kkk who's decendants are now infiltrated in the police force and kill especially Black people in the streets with impunity?? Those lawabusers that are protested against by BLM and Antifa?
There, fixed it for ya.
People get taught...persuaded....brainwashed, call it what you wish, that the other guy is not human. That's how they cope with killing. She said they called her a cockroach. That's your clue. Easier to kill a vermin than a person.
Happened many many times throughout history. I watched interviews with people from WW2 and that's how they coped. Americans didn't think the Japanese as people, Japanese considered Chinese to be "logs" rather than humans...Russians killing Germans and vise versa without remorse for the same reasons.
I'm not justifying or defending anyone taking a life for any reason but that's just my take on it from purely psychological point of view.
@ǞЯƮΦЯiǞ РęПDЯǞgΦП so somehow you haven't seen how they destroy people's lives?
my mom survived the rwandan tutsi genocide and until this day, she never talked to my family about it. i cannot begin to imagine the trauma she went through and yet she is probably the strongest person i know.
edit : thank you so much for all of the kind words, i am extremely grateful. you're all so sweet
so much respect towards your mother. she’s very strong.
God bless you all this is truly heartbreaking ❤️
@crist don't know what that means but it's not funny at all. you don't know anything about me or my family.
Prayers sent out
God bless you all
How she survived is a miracle.
My heart broke watching her re-living the experience to answer the questions. THANK YOU for making the decision to filming this video. You have shined light on Rwandan history that many people here have probably never heard about including myself.
Thinking of you and wishing you the very best in your healing journey.
This was the most traumatic story I've ever heard. Her saying, 'forgiveness is the key to your freedom' was enlightening.
Truer words have not been spoken
It’s the truth though. If you watch videos of other people who have been through trauma , they say the same thing
I learned this I think... At least I hope I have. I'm tired of hanging onto the hot rock in my hand, just waiting to throw it at my enemy
This isn't the most traumatic story ever heard. This is the most traumatic story ever heard; Ghengis Khan, Pol Pot, Hernán Cortés, and Joseph Stalin. Centuries separate them, and there's no recorded proof that they ever even got together to write their traumatic story, but there is proof that they killed upwards of 500 million human lives.
@@PrimulaXRin the Interahomwe murder 800,000 with only machetes, in 9 months. That's pretty insane, up there with the aforementioned for sure. No one touches Pol Pot IMHO
This woman needs a whole movie dedicated to her and everyone who was a victim of the genocide.
there is a limited series on netfix about the genocide called Black Earth Rising.... its heart breaking
I saw Hotel Rwanda... that was horrible enough.
Hotel Rwanda is bad enough.
The Movie Hotel Ruanda 😥
Would you watch a movie specifically about the jews being murdered during the holocaust.?
The mere fact that she survived because of robbing of a bank, is just wow. Two people ahead of her and she was just, "well this is happening," AT PEACE and by the greed of people she lived. Just wow.
All that my mind kept repeating for the last 19 minutes and and 48 seconds was, “ this is one of the most beautiful people I have ever seen in my life..”
And then for the last few seconds I kept hearing her say how forgiveness is the key to you freedom, but how it is not easy..
Forgive yourself, forgive those whom have hurt you, and be set free
I’m still working on forgiveness 🙏🏾 thank you for sharing your story
"one of my aunties married a hutu man and he killed her" unbelievable. he put the tribal heritage over the love to his wife. let alone the value of her life. i could not have forgiven him under any circumstance
@@Benny-ye7ro you must have gotten me wrong. I just repeated what the woman in the video said what you have obviously not watched with all of your attention. btw there are " " which should show that it´s direct speech
That is the custom there. They kill each other. It was not just one person doing it all. You cannot be a Tutsi around the Hutus. Just the way it is there.
It could happen today in America. All it takes is one drastic event to blow the lid off the racial tension that has been building over the past 30 years. When you are brainwashed to believe that one race of people is causing all of your problems in life, killing a spouse is a small price to pay "for the greater good." We are not so different from these people, we just have different circumstances.
@@haikat4 luckily I don´t live in the united states of america as it is correctly named
@@florianbischoff9764 Well if you're in United States of Europe then you already know how quickly people will start murdering each other when the government says its okay.
Speechless. This woman is the example of strength.
are you Tutsi or Hutu?
Strength and a lot of luck to survive the senseless genocide.
Her eyes , says it all. She's seen things no one should ever witness in their life
more like the definiton
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So painful to hear it and feel it for her as well! Amazing woman, alive! It’s just unbearable to realize that such things are STILL happening🤯🤬
"Forgiveness is the key to your freedom"
The fact that she could find this path after what she has gone through is amazing.
This woman is amazing.
Forgiveness and Justice are two different things. She deserves Justice now.
@@garynelson9538 What we call justice is often nothing more than revenge. We try to ease our mind, by knowing that the person who wronged us suffers as well. But in reality we gain much greater peace if we can forgive them and move on without the shackles of hate and pain.
Edit: grammar
@@logicandreason3812 That is not true at all. So someone takes your money and leave you poor and struggling, never to recover and impoverished for life as a result because of ill health that was there before the crime and worsened by the result of the crime, and you must "forgive" and move on?
@@the8thchurch461 What do I gain from hating him? From cursing him and crying about my state? I suffer from mental stress, because I obsess about what happened. Iwish him ill, building resentment and bitterness in my mind.
When I forgive I can let these things go. I stop clinging to these fruitless thoughts and actions. I gain freedom from unnecessary mental stress.
@@logicandreason3812 I am talking about the material side of it. I was preyed on by a cult when unbeknown to me, I was suffering from chronic depression. I just thought I was extremely unhappy but life was one big struggle. Then the cultists preyed on me and I couldn't protect myself from them as I was not well. The cult robbed me blind and took 10% of my money monthly over a period of 6 years. So I shouldn't try and get my money back as it would be revenge? Their actions have made my already problematic life worse. The hole they have thrown me into is hard for me to come out of because of depression. So asking the law to help me is revenge? I rest my case.
The fact that some people don't feel the wrong in any of that is scary
You have to research the methods used to get so many people to think in that way, in this particular case--what was happening in this country in the 90s and the influences in that situation.
@@standardprocedure7017 yeah i know that but it's scary how their instinct of feeling any kind of wrong was just non existent
@@Gkmc-hl2fn Well said.
I'm stealing this.
Coming to a USA near you, 2024!
@@Gkmc-hl2fn idk man this crack is pre strong
I cannot fathom the pain she lives with on a daily basis, this is gut wrenching and the fact that many other Tutsis went through worse is unbelievable…
Omg 1994 was not that long ago. I’m thinking this happened in the 1960’s or something. There’s so many things about the world that we don’t know. Thank god there’s people like her that can tell their story.
if you just found out this happened in the 90s, please research the Sudanese genocide. it is still happening today with no international attention.
In the sixties they probably did have a different way of, yet not nearly like this I think. It was bad and not as long ...this one was probably sixties planning too...whenever it was there was several ideas of debates within and a few elsewhere.
I’ve never wanted to give a stranger a hug so badly.
I literally just said that same thing to myself!!!!
something we should be able to do freely, why do we hold back........
@@tisme343 Its polite to at least ask
Yo I literally just said the same thing to myself:(
Amen to that. Yowza
I saw a documentary where some villages had the people who were involved in the killings confess and apologize. These people were their neighbors. The cruelty of man is astounding.
By any chance might you remember the name of the documentary?
@@Justlailen i would love to know too
No form of apology could ever make up for what they were a part of
Evil in its purest form
I remember watching this too…the men were in prison and they said it was as if a dark cloud had come over Rwanda
the fact that she saw all these with her own eyes are beyond control. I am a young mum and the thought of me being beheaded while carrying my little baby just hit me deep. I pray she heals from all those things, all she saw, all she feels every day memories flashes through her mind. Sending Love and Hugs to all Rwandese.
This lady is really a strong lady.Because she saw death with her own eyes she became stronger and she is a kind lady and she forgive people who killed her family.she forgive people who not humans but worst of it's kind and she forgive them really really thank you kind lady because you gave me a lesson because many people also do wronged with me but what you said that only forgiveness is a way to get freedom because there's no choice
people can be so evil. this woman is so incredibly strong, i can’t imagine what this was like to go through, let alone hear it
Men * women don’t do this
Who said woman don't do this shit broo you are being feminist damnn
@@bro................. that has nothing to do with feminism thats sexist to the max
@@Alexandra-ng1ih no it dosent matter by race
@@Alexandra-ng1ihsome people do these things, women too.
“ I raped so and so, I killed so and so.” The fact that how she told us sounded like they were so proud of their deeds..
Just like American soldiers.
@@newstartalltheway lol
I don’t think people who do things like that have remorse or empathy.They probably were proud of their actions…
@Gonzo Papers You do know that there's a fuckton of political unrest there meaning that it is essentially a warzone in some parts without the official tag of war.
@Gonzo Papers you act like it’s any different here
That was brutal. I have never cried so much watching one of these. I wish Antoinette the best, and I'm glad she found the key to her freedom, even if it's very hard.
I can’t imagine how much inner strength it’s taken for her to relive and retell her story. I wish her nothing but happiness and healing in life.
I went to the genocide memorial when I visited Rwanda. Even the memorial couldn’t give the full picture. It was such an important experience but even as an outsider being there, I was on the brink of tears the whole two hours I was there. They have a room called the children’s room at the end. It’s basically a hallway with photos of these little children/infants. Under each photo it had their name, their age when they died, some of their favourite things (ice cream, football, their aunt, etc…) and then how they died. Most of them were beheaded by machetes or thrown repeatedly against walls until they died. There’s also an area called the three rooms. One of them has the clothes of some of the victims wore when they died. They were modern 90s clothes like adidas track pants and it just makes you realise how recent this all was. All the clothes were drenched in the blood of whoever wore them. The third room is the photos room. It’s got thousands of photos hung up by family members of survivors, of the loved ones that they lost. Anyone can go hang a photo. They’re all hung on clothe pins. The memorial tour starts with a video of survivors speaking about their experience during the genocide, some with machete scars on their heads from childhood. One of them only survived because they hit him so many times with one that they thought there was no way he was still alive. He then got up and dragged himself kilometres away to a hospital where a nurse took him in and protected him and paid off people to leave him alone. You then learn about the history of it all, from the pre-colonisation, to colonisation, to independence, to the genocide. It was a heartbreaking experience to go there but such an important one. The Rwandese will never forget what happened and they don’t want outsiders to either. They want us to learn from what happened there.
@@frazzlef4601 no way! We should catch up soon :)
Thank you for this🙏🏾😔
No one will ever learn. If they don't learn from the Holocaust, what would they learn from?
i spit on hutu tribe for committing this genocide!!
i couldnt forgive !!!!!!!!!!! that is the most lowest thing the demons want u to do ! no ! u must remember ! like this lady is doing really !!!!!!! tell the story constantly and dont let people forget !!!!
My parents are survivors too, I heard these type of stories when I was younger, truly horrifying, I'm happy they managed to escape and flee to a safer place
can I hear their story?
@@Ana-brwn yes same here
It’s so important to continue telling these stories, Im also very happy your parents were able to get out of there. I hope you and your family are doing well
Thank God, that they made it . God bless you and your family
I am too
This is so touching, it was quite a traumatic experience. I really salute your courage
Incredible, and heartbreaking stories, there. That she can answer how she’s doing with her head up, and an “I’m thriving” makes me smile. She has seen the very very worst humanity can offer, and has not lost her faith in human kindness. That’s a special type of strength.
I spent a little time in Rwanda a couple of years before the genocide. I knew nothing about the Hutu Tutsi divide, they just all seemed like the friendliest of people. Our governments knew they were planning to eradicate the Tutsi and did nothing. Apparently a small contingent of around 5000 UN troops was all that was needed to stop this, but they just sat on their hands and let it happen.
It's the UN what do you expect they can't do shit
@@personwitharat9039 wym they cant do shit? They literally stopped it with (compared to the amount of killers) small amount of troops to stop them. They literally could've ended this early.
I think its very important to emphasize the genocide, in this form wouldn't have happened without the colonial powers of France, Germany and Belgium dividing the country for years and breeding hate between the parties for years. Hutu and Tutsi originally were 2 out of 3 classes, not particularly tribes. Only when the colonial powers took over and changed the whole legislature and political organisation, the division and differences between the groups became so crucial and ultimately led to the genocide.
The USA intervenes constantly for the most selfish reasons (profit) and pretend its to liberate ppl and bring democracy.
Yet this very obvious case in which intervention could have helped was not provided. The USA govt should bow down in shame.
Isn't that what white governments have always done?????
This is absolutely horrific. My heart goes out to this woman and all off those who have had similar experiences.
@@keirania__4759 are you fucking serious, what in gods name is wrong with you
shes a victim of white supremacy
@@whitedom2041 Are you dumb? Legit question...... 🤔
@@ashotofmercury do you know the reason why this genocide happened? its because the Europeans went there, labelling the Tutsis the "better" tribe, because they were "lighter skinned" which caused a break in the relationships between the 3 main tribes. That spiralled out of control and caused this genocide. Maybe its not white supremacy directly, but being light skinned, and the white man played a part.
@@swiggedyswoner7315 they are spamming bots
I'm humbled listening to this articulate and intelligent survivor. Thank you for bringing awareness with your testimony of forgiveness.
This is one of the most heartbreaking videos I have ever watched. I can’t even put it into words.
She is so incredibly strong and brave, even as a little girl, hiding alone, she's amazing. I can't even imagine the horrible things she's seen that she hasn't talked about, I hope she lives a good life, she deserves so much better.
True
💯💯💯💯
It's hard to even listen but to go through this.. 💔. God bless her beautiful resilient soul.
I read about this genocide. An entire novel. She's right about compressing some memories because there's more that happened that she would tell if she remembered. It was absolutely vile.
What was the book? Would love to learn more
but whats the nane of the book
do you have the name of the novel?
could you share the book name?
@@tiaguixo Small Country by Gael Faye
"And how are you today?"
"I am alive"
A right answear to this ridiculous question.
Someone please let this woman know how much she changed everyone’s life by watching her. She’s inspired me to be a stronger person for the rest of my life. Truly
are you Tutsi or Hutu?
Jesus I am holding back tears, especially after she said forgiveness is the key to freedom. I just hope she continues to thrive.
Amen
I flat out cried. My god. I am so lucky to be a white male born in Canada. Fuck. So lucky
They may take her dogs but they will never take her FREEDOM!
@@nooneinparticular9868 😂😂😂😂😂
@@Iksvomid bro dum☠️☠️☠️
I read about the Rwandan hutu-tutsi genocide in sixth grade from a woman who lost her whole family. She only has her brother left, and it was a terribly vivid biography. It was the first time I had heard about it. It feels so wrong that so many of us Americans don't know what happened to them.
Edit: I would really like it if the Americans and the non Americans in my replies stopped fighting over how we're either A. Assholes for not knowing or B. Not assholes because we should never care about anything outside of the us. Both your viewpoints are wrong, stop using my comment to be so ignorant and awful.
Look for the movie Hotel Rwanda
I remember documentary footage horrible event. I still remember seeing stiff bodies flowing in a river
We americans do know about it just don't care...sorry
@Kkbunns🐰 Literally same except I watched it in my 9th-grade English honors class. Literally couldn't forget it.
@@dlilwonI've been wanting to see that, I found it at a CD Exchange but didn't buy because I didn't have money on me at the time.
i can’t imagine having to go through so much at such a young age. My heart goes out to this beautiful woman❤️❤️❤️
The amount of emotional pain i felt just listening to this is crazy and to think how much more painful it must be to have gone through that is just unfathomable😭
a 12 year old going through all that and seeing all that over a 3 month experience and to still grow into the person she is today is unreal.
she is something special.
We have this woman and others who went through a living hell and came out trying to do better and then we have people who commit horrendous crimes and blame it on things they went through growing up.
She truly is
@@colettebaker2842 it can either make you or you can let it define you. You can can make something of yourself (and show these animals that they didn't win/take you) or you can let it break you.
You have a choice more often than not to let yourself heal, or you can forever be the victim of your circumstances (albeit this is an extreme example and an extremely brave and strong person).
She was 16
@@azchanna 2:20 the screen says she was 12. But even if she were 16 or 26 it was a complete horror regardless.
She can forgive someone who killed her aunt and I'm here sitting on my comfortable chair can't even forgive someone who keeps trauma dumping on me. She's such a strong character and there are a lot of things I wish to learn from her.
its k if u cant ...its jus maybe u'll feel better one day when u let go of it but if u r not able too...both make sense so
Well you don't need to forgive them. It differs per person. For some people, forgiveness is their way of letting go. For many others, allowing themselves to grieve, accept that people suck, and let go is the way to freedom. No forgiveness is involved, cause just so you know, you do NOT need to forgive anyone. Especially people who commited literal genocide. Forgiveness is overrated, and at some point can become toxic when people have this idea that they HAVE to forgive their abusers or horrible people in their life, cause you dont. Many people never have forgiven horrible people, but have accepted that it happened and that they shouldn't hurt themselves more by allowing it to eat them alive, so they just try to let go and distance themselves. To each their own.
Trauma dumpers dont deserve to be forgiven. They are TOXIC.
I am Rwandan, through the forgiveness we healed the wounds on the heart and we live peacefully with those who killers our people.
If you need the lessons of forgiveness, please come to Rwanda!
You will see many testimonies.
I thought trauma dumping was someone who tells others about their trauma…why would you be mad at someone for telling you their trauma I’m confused
I wish this beautiful soul peace, love and happiness. Thank you for sharing your story.
i watched this with my mouth open the whole time. This is heart wrenching. I want to cry but I am almost in shock and can't seem to. I had never heard of this tragedy until now. I am beyond impressed with the strength this woman has. I hope she continues to heal and finds all the peace in the world for herself.
Imagine being a 12 year old kid and having to witness that kind of horror… this is so sad. My heart goes out to her and every person who fell victim to this.
It`s already started showing up in the UK...so you`ll be sure to see a bit of yourself soon...
This lady is a literal saint. After all of that horror her journey is to forgive those people.
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Takes real strength to do that, we all could learn from her tbh
She lived within the privileged class.
They had their boots on the necks of these people for tens of years!
The hutu were enslaved by the tutsi- they treated them like the whites in South Africa and the whites in America treat all people of color...
I zm not condoning how they dealt with it, but it had to be done...the tutsi were enjoying being the bosses, the masters, they took this to another level that would make the kkk look like Sunday school teachers!!!
Try talking with Hutu people, then znd only then can you truly understand the reasoning behind the genocide
@@c.a.greene8395 top 10 genocide defenders
@@train123z it's logical to defend yourself against tyranny- to continue to allow them to rule as twisted masters would be insane...anyone, everyone would rise up against this type of enslavement within one's own nation by an invading force that took over and stayed - reaping every benefit znd resource while treating them worse than dogs!
Before the so-called - genocide - these same people were cutting the breast off women znd giving them to their male children to play with...these bastards deserved what they got
Thank you so much for sharing your story. I’m so sorry for your losses. I am happy you can move forward after all that you have been put through and seen. Thank you. Bless you
All I can say is "WOW " and total respect and admiration for this lady x
Mad you walk past someone and have no fucking idea what they have been through. I literally just want to give this woman a hug mate
"Forgiveness is the key to your freedom". What a human being she is.
The strength to accept the only way forward , looks fucking rough man
Forgiveness is the only key
Forgiving monsters and not punishing them is not a key it is a cage.
@@derekcox543 what do you mean by that
@@killuminatikilla3235 Monsters do not deserve forgiveness there is no redemption for them and forgiving them as a means of coping with their atrocities is inhumane and unjust you are locking your emotions, reality, justice into a cage as a means of moving forward when in reality you left apart of yourself behind a part that should still be apart of you what more will you allow them to take from you. Situations like this are only magnified and worsened when the law, the justice system fails you and that monster that irredeemable monster still walks the streets with no repercussions.
God bless this woman she’s seen things no human should ever see 😢 what a beautiful resilient strong woman ❤
My heart and soul goes to this beautiful woman, and her determination to survive. And we thought we have been through stuff, nothing compared to her trauma and everything she witnessed.
Can’t imagine how she stayed sane. May God give her all the best this life can offer.
This is exactly what I thought. I was abused by narcissistic abusers who did make several sincere attempts on my life but the stuff she is talking about makes me wonder how she can exist with such memories. It's bloody horrifying isn't it....
and the afterlife. Ameen.
God already gave her something else, she didn't seem to enjoy it.
@@bubblezovlove7213 no one cares
Chances are she's not sane no offence she's probably mental now and it's understandable ay
We all think we have problems until someone like this lady comes along with their story…the savagery in this world is heartbreaking 💔
Indeed absolute savagery
@Diamond true
@Diamond its definitely levels to problems though. Your car breaking down and genocide of your family are different ballparks. We must stay grateful
@@toreydshaun very well said.
@@SandraVWithTheKey 🙏🏾
Im speechless, what a beautiful, dignified. brave and human woman .Who is using the absolutely horrendous experience of those past events to do good now to help others and also heal herself. What a fighting spirit.All the very besr to her and all the hoys ahead that life can offer .❤
It's beyond horrific. Absolutely devastating, love and strength.
"Hell is empty and all the devils are here" - William Shakespeare
No hell is not empty, hell has in larger herself, many peoples are there as I text
Yes it really empty because it not yet time for judgment
@@tomaustin4926 why do you call Hell a her?
One of my coworkers was a survivor of the genocide, he was a very cheerful guy and you would have never expected that he survived something horrific
Thats often the case. Maybe because he survived he leared to live life to the fullest and appreciate the small things in life.
@@jaysheriffe6292that’s the case with many. It either hardened their hearts, or made them soft. I’m a Burundian/Rwandese American. (Parents came from those countries, and survived.) but the long term effects was so devastating. My parents, members of my communities are some of the strongest people I know. And have big hearts, who are crazy for Jesus. :)
I remember when I was in Junior High School in Brooklyn NYC, I was in maybe the 7th grade...we had been assigned to read the book "Night" by Elie Wiesel. I read the book and the picture that he painted of some of what had transpired during the holocaust was so horrifying that it was hard for me to feel like it was "real"... then one day I was riding the train on my way home from school, and an older man was standing a few seats away from where I was. At first he was holding onto one of the poles in the bus that go from the floor to the roof, but then, he switched to grab one of the over head straps to hold on to, and as he did that his sleeve rode up on his arm I saw a series of faded green numbers tattooed on his fore arm and I IMMEDIATELY recognized them from their description in the book "Night".. I think I was in a state of shock for the whole rest of the ride, and I've never forgotten it... to think about what that man had lived through and survived!!!
@mikailmillion
It's how they honoured those who died by living life to the fullest
Absolutely heartbreaking. So grateful she survived, to live her life, and to also tell us what happened so we can try to stop things like this.
Massive respect to this courageous and brave lady ❤