How To Turn Any Thumb Button Release Into a Hinge Release! | Bowmar Bowhunting |
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Have you shot any of Dudley’s releases?
Orderd one and loving it so far only got a few shots in so far well setting bow up, even the bow tech was surprised on how fast I came to my anchor point
This was the best explanation I’ve seen yet. I finally feel like I understand it. Thank you so much.
Glad it was helpful!
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There’s a lot of target archers who shoot “command style” with their releases. It’s all personal preference
I used to try a Hinge Release and my group was great when I did it right.However, I always had an uneasy feeling when drawing the bow, so I went back to the Thumb Release with the bad habits and target panic.
After watching your video I really realized how important a surprise shoot is. I have the Stan Shooter and have it set up like in the video. Every shot is now a surprise shot. I am thrilled because unfortunately I also had target panic and it is completely gone.
Thank you very much, the tip was very helpful.
This is exactly how I shoot a thumb release, but I've never seen anyone who uses this method. Thanks for the video and the reinforcement that I haven't been doing it wrong!
I switched from a trigger release to a thumb release. was shown this method and loved it.
get the surprise shot of a hinge release while having the safety of a thumb release.
was quite a few years ago and in my area, we don't get all the archery big brands a plenty, so most of us had never even seen a hinge release with safety.
this was (and is imo) the best option.
Just took the barrel off my boss x release, and my accuracy has improved dramatically. This info is gold sir, thank you
Thank you for this video. I've always used this method for my thumb releases but had never considered reversing or removing the trigger stud. I really think that will give me even more consistency in my thumb placement. I also want to thank you for the Bowmar Nose Button. I have one on each of my bows and I love the improved consistency in my anchor point. I recommend them to everyone.
Thank you so much, as someone who's never really struggled with Target panic, I used a finger release for 30 years. I've had a thumb release for one week, took the handle off it, followed your steps, and some really good groups, just became sick!!!
Got out today, and set up my Stan Perfex as described. Didn’t cut down the barrel, but have the shaft in the more central position (short shaft, center hole, left side of activation lever, and up/forward as pictured). Using back mucles at full draw, adding tension, and rotating the pinkey/ring finger works TERRIFIC! It really does feel like your shooting a tension release, and it forces you into having good follow-through on the shot. Thank you for putting this out there. It’s going to help me a lot!
Definitely going to try this. This is a great piece of knowledge. Thanks for making this video.
This is the best educational bowhunting video ive ever watched!! i shoot the tru fire synapse but want a more efficient surprise shot and havent moved on to the tru fire Sear back tension because of the lack of safety....i adjusted my synapse how you explained in the video and so far it has worked amazingly at the range...thank you!!
Darin Mickelson awesome man!! So pumped you got something out of the video
@@BowmarBowhunting if I decrease both the tension and the travel on the trigger would that make the release touchier and easier to activate?
Darin Mickelson you can play around with it, and find what you feel is best
I see a lot of people coming back to this just to comment back and say it works so I’m certainly gonna give it a shot I haven’t shit a bow consistently for years, getting in in a few days.
will report back in a few weeks myself with group sizes, I suppose just to see if this bit of advice is just something I can just start out by doing to get comfortable form the beginning!
Thank you so much. I watched your first video that touched on this and have been trying to engage my carter wise choice this way since. I’ve had problems with my button (too much pressure or hitting it accidentally)or collapsing my shot and punching the trigger. Knob is coming off and I’m going outside. This is truly an amazing video with a wealth of information in it. Thanks again for taking the time to share.
I think you just changed my life, man. 🥺 I was considering going to a crossbow because I’ve been having so much trouble with surprise shots. Thank you! 💪
This was really interesting. I have just come back from practice and I stumbled across your video. I have a thumb release and I can give this method a try. I shot olympic style recurve for years. This method you are describing might feel more familiar to me than trying to find a way to squeeze the thumb trigger while applying back tension. Thanks for this, I will give it a try.
Great work, I've been having inconsistent results in the field with a wrist release. It seems I target panick on nicer animals that I really really want. I'll give this a try and see if it helps.
Thanks for taking the time to do this. This is huge for me cause I always have wanted a back tension but was hesitant because of the reasons you said. Never thought it was practical for hunting from a treestand but this i can do. Good luck guys thanks for sharing this. Happy New Year!!!
bennyboom63 I hope you find it helpful!
I think I have watched this video 4 times in the past year. Good reminders of what I am trying to achieve, regardless or what release I use. I was using a hinge and getting good success, but when that hinge failed 3 weeks ago, I had a thumb trigger to use while my hinge undergoes a warranty replacement. I tied my personal best because I had the information on how to shoot a thumb trigger like a hinge. I may not do it just like Josh does, but it is close enough to get a good surprise shot. Without this surprise shot, I would not be scoring as well as I am.
This video was awesome
I learned a ton from it..
Awesome!! Happy to hear!
Thanks for the tip Josh! This is definitely going to help a lot!
I’ve been bow bunting with a finger trigger for the last 15+ and have been scared to change. You made me change today and have to say thanks. Your nose button is fantastic and now I’m learning to shoot correctly for the first time.
Works. Period. Just shrunk my groups by 2 inches at 30 yards which is huge, since I started hunting again 3 years ago. Now I am inside of a baseball diameter group. Thanks for the tip.
Addresses EXACTLY the problem I have been having problems transitioning from fingers to a release. Lots of target panic, futzing around with different releases, trying to find something that felt like fingers. This gets very close and has really improved my shooting. Thank You
Thanks for the support man!
Wow , came across your video and I have the same releases that you have.!! And I’m gonna try this with the sx3 and my perfex.!!
I was about to buy a resistance release, but I’m going to try this instead..!! Thanks Seth..
Cool insight. I'm new to the compound world and the release is where I'm hung up at the moment. I'm in it to hunt and add some meat to the freezer. Thanks for the advice
Great technical video. I’ve shot a trigger release for many years. I seem to go through waves of good and bad shots. I’m definitely going to try this out. I’ve always felt like these thumb buttons just weren’t my style. But you convinced me enough to try this out.
South Out Mcknight good luck my man!! I hope it works out for you.
I found this video while icing a huge welt on my forearm after a misfire with my nock2it release. I removed the barrel trigger from the nock2it release and when on target, slowly rotated my pinky back while at full draw. It works great! There is now much less chance of an accidental misfire and it also successfully reduces target panic.
Nice tips Joel. Thank You!
James J. Donatelli still shooting the Nock2it without the thumb barrel? I just ordered a Nock2it and wondering if I should try it this way? The way Dudley sets it up with the extended thumb seems like misfires could happen.
That is a great tip!! I have lost confidence in my thumb release, but when I made the changes that you suggested everything is much better now. Two in groupings at 70 yards. Great video, thank you.
Vince Adame that’s so great to hear! Glad you didn’t have to throw it away
Guess what I am doing tomorrow!! Yep, taking the barrel off of my thumb button release. Thank you for the million dollar tip!! Keep up the good work brother. 👊
This video is the exact explanation of how I was taught to correctly shoot a thumb button by a pro shooter. The only difference is that I keep a barrel on the release and position it in the V of my thumb and trigger finger. My groups have shrunk incredibly and I have no target panic. Thank you for the videos I will pass this on to others who are struggling
Learned a ton from this! Thanks man!
I've just had my first bow ever ... A diamond edge sb1 ... And got the sweet spot from Facebook without even knowing how it works ...
First 3 arrows I ever shot in my life after lots of RUclips videos ... I got the feel of it ... Sweet spot pro it's spot on
Has anyone ever told you that you are a genius? Thanks for this enlightenment!
I'm starting fresh Into compound bows again and was looking into a thumb release. This video showed me a lot and how to use them especially this way. Do you have any pointers just in a thumb release without converting as well in case this method doesn't seem to work for me?
I suffered from target panic by using for some time a thumb style release, a Carter Chocolate four finger configured the stock way. Then I used a Carter Honey for quite some time in practice and discovered the surprise release. My accuracy improved, but more importantly I no longer suffered from really badly “pulled” shots. Maybe I just didn’t adjust the Honey properly but that release is almost too surprising. Just took the thumb barrel my Spot Hogg Whipper Snapper and tried it as a “hinge”. Worked fine and felt better than the Honey. I would definitely recommend using a Honey as a first step, and then go barrelless.
Thanks Bud! Awesome advice. Lol arrow though the window!!
In the process of switching from an RX1 to a long neck perfex, awesome video! Thanks
Dude, this is the best info I have seen yet. I've been shooting 35 years, but only recently started using a thumb release. I was struggling! I have a truball fang 4. Put the barrel on the other side. DANG! I put the barrel in the web of my thumb and index finger. Man, I might have to put in a stiffer spring. Total surprise everytime. Thanks!
Happy to help man thanks so much for watching
Just talked me into thumb releases. Thank you for the great videos!!
Thanks man
Great info! Thanks!
Crazy helpful and a great explanation man, thank you! I have the tru ball blade pro flex I’m killing my groups.
Can you possibly do a how to video explaining how to properly shooting an index wrist rocket release while utilizing back tension? Thanks
Bowmar, I've been researching hinge releases and wanted to try one before I spent $200 only to find out that type of release wasn't for me so your info was definitely of interest. Anyhow, I have an old TruFire that I modified like you showed, WOW!!! I love this thing. Thanks so much for the great info. I may go full hinge later but for now, this thumb/hinge release has already improved my groups.
Glad I could help
Thanks for helping me understand and explain this for all of this.
Nose button in place and thumb barrel removed. Game changers. Thanks!
Thanks for the support
As a target panic sufferer I found this video superb. I can’t wait to try converting my own truball blade pro and shoot it like a hinge. Many thanks!
I just got a Carter Chocolate lite. I do not understand why bow shop tell us to get a wrist rocket when this works so much better. It did take a few days but groups consistently down to 2” @ 40 yards. For me that’s a big improvement from plate size to 2”. So thanks you !!! try this it works. Back tensions try this it’s good way of thinking about it. Lifted your arm straight in front of you, then push it straight back. So your arm gets short in front of you. Practice that then go to shooting stands and do the same movement. It works!!
Thanks a million for putting this info out! If you remove the thumb peg on both the Bone Collector and Blade Pro, what’s the difference? They look exactly the same to me. I’m new to archery and I’ve already developed a trigger punch with my wrist strap release.
I'm going to give this a go and see
That is how I have been shooting mine for a couple of decades. Good explanation on how and why
Awesome!! Info lots of Great Stuff!! 👊
Thanks for the video. The more I research the more I realize that you do not have to use true back tension and there are more pros punching their thumb or index finger than I ever thought. I watched a Lancaster archery tournament where the winner or one of the top finishers was punching his thumb. And Levi Morgan doesn’t believe true back tension is best to activate a release, but I’m sure there are some lofty shooters that think otherwise. The principals you are teaching are understood and are regularly applied in the archery world as you mentioned, but you still have to find what works for you. There are no absolutes when it comes to release technique.
I used to shoot a finger wrist release But i started anticipating my shot. Went to a thumb release..it was good for awhile but then i felt myself anticipating the shot again. Watched you do this and i immediately changed the position of my thumb button. Pull with my little finger and...BANG..surprise!! Thanks so much for this video!! Perfect timing as my archery league starts next week.
Chris L excellent!! So excited for you!!
Thank you for the good lesson!
Nice tip..! Just got a nocktoit and will give that a try..!
Finally a Great Explanation of how these work for newbies to thumb and hinge releases. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it and found it helpful!
Super simple and genius. Great tip.
Texas BowHunter thanks man!!
Huge help thanks josh
Thanks for giving your trips out for the new guys
Hey josh . What kind of peep sight do you use ? I was thinking about getting away from the g5 meta peep . Thanks
I did this on my release it’s easy to do and feels way better!
WINGED BEAUT that’s great!! Glad it made a difference!
i just learned a ton! thank you!
DJ Sherwood for sure! Glad you enjoyed it!
Seriously, hell yes! About 4 weeks set my Wise Choice up short and sweet to get this effect. Folks, when you do this and make yourself perform the execution properly- this flat out works. There's no brain waves bouncing back and forth to activate the release and INTERFERE with your focus- which should be on the exact spot you want the arrow to hit. All I do is just PULL THROUGH THE SHOT and keep my feeble mind on the target/dot/12 ring. It actually takes less mind time to do than using my Carter Total Control which is a fantastic true hinge release. This release set up is going to be awesome when I'm shooting the wild hogs. More ability to focus on that pigs kill zone. 👍👍🏹🏹🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗
I'm definitely gonna need to save this video for when I know a little more about releases in general
I like this video. I still shoot a dang wrist release, I've been wanting to make the switch for while now.
Going to try a thumb release one of these years!
Super advice thank you and the best ever bit of advice on releases 👍👍
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Great vid. Please explain the 128 yard shot sight set up. Thanks
I've shot trigger for about 4 years but I might switch to hinge good vid btw
Wow I tried this and definitely helped groups got much tighter and less target panic
Glad it helped!!
Just found this video and I just switched to a thumb release, wasn’t digging it until I took the thumb barrel off , I shoot a whipper snapper and it works great as a back tension, thanks, ps I love the nose button.
Thanks so much for using the nose button man!
Idk about a surprise shot. My back tension groups aren’t as consistent as my trigger release group. But I do like that I learned to transfer my draw to my back and not my forearm.
Dude I seen you at ATA this year! Didnt even know you had a channel or anything... weird I see your videos now after the fact 😂
haha that's crazy!
Was always told the hook releases roll the string when firing. Subsequently I've always shot the pincher style release... whats the scoop?
Dude awesome video!!
Thanks!
Do y’all recommend this for people just getting into the bow world
I just shot my first monster buck today I'm so excited
Congrats!! That's awesome
Thanks man, I love the yt channel btw its amazing I love the hunts
Carter makes some different shoes to attach to your thumb release for this method of activation. Works very well on a Carter Target 4. I suggest the smaller of the two.
Can't say I've had this problem. Did have some firearms training before I shot bows and just applied that. Maybe people forget to relax and breath. I do see how this could help people so good job.
Thank you for that video it helped me a lot
Thank you so much Bomar I was going to go buy a back tension release tomorrow but you just save me $250
Happy to help!
Do you shoot target professionally ?
You make lots of references to pro target shooters . I definitely like the concept you've came up with here .
would you recommend one of these releases to someone who is buying a bow for the first time and has never shot before
Very good idea! Learn it n thanks!
Hey josh I love the channel I noticed you had a Stan element I would like to know if you would sell it?
awesome tip, thanks!
Thanks man!
Ha! Sorry. Not Chuck Adams my Hero! Lol. Great vid. All of them!
you stated you like the STAN release... try the Heavy Metal Perflex LONG neck I use the X-large GREAT fit in the hand love the weight..will be moving my button all the way over and switching (testing) to the small button after I cut it in half. :-) currently using the big button and longest stalk to get it into the crease of my thumb base. Your suggested position is VERY interesting
tnx
Good stuff.. Been shooting a button this way for a long time.. And the good thing about a button is when you need to jam it on an animal you can.. haha
I think most experienced shooters will probably say not to start and stop your execution, not to say it won't be an effective method though.
Starting and stopping the process to make the shot go off will create target panic. Let your pin float and let yourself unconsciously bring your pin back to target. Your only focus should be on the process to make that shot go off. Our brains can't do both at once.
@@brandonroering6191 Exactly
Awesome video
Suprise i flung one on the draw back lol flew over to the next canyon when i first got my backspin i did that a couple times
This really helped me a lot I’m shooting way better.. thanks
Pin does not have to be in the middle for the shot to hit extra middle.... put the pin where you want it and let it float because it always will... do not start and stop the pull.... pull through continuously and your subconscious will fire the bow at the right time. Stare at the spot and pull through the shot
Ryan i agree 100% this is true first form, focus, and follow through.
What are your thoughts on the tru fire synapse?
Couldnt this affect accuracy when youre rotating your pinky down which would raise your nock then causing a low shot?
@bomarbowhunting : I really appreciate your innovative mind! You're a really creative man. I dig your ideas and I implement them and they have helped me! Anyway, thanks for being You! Keep it up!
Thanks bud I appreciate it!
thanks so much this helped alot
Thanks for watching man
Wuuuuuuuao this an great video my freind nice tips on those release my freind THANK
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I have that tru ball sweet spot ultra 3 that u said u used for 3 years. Just got it for target panic . How do u put a wrist strap on it. Theres no holes.. Thank u