One of my biggest pet peeves is when someone who is extremely talented and knows their talented, choose to make dumb decisions and throw all their talent down the drain. Velveteen Dream will always be one of the biggest "what ifs" in the history of the wrestling business.
@@iorilamia how bout you frame deez nuts onto your chin. ANYONE saying dude was framed is likely an individual who is okay with his behavior. Dream is a coke head and a rapist.
@@SCU3A_S7EVE I was about to say what is this idiotic comment talking about until I thought about it and it actually kinda makes sense. With that being said, I still think Velveteen had a higher ceiling than either of the Usos in my opinion.
Self confidence, without egotism, is one of the most positive attributes a human can possess. Egotism leads one to feel invincible, which in turn turns men and women into monsters
It's sad what has happened to his career, he was one of the biggest prospects out of NXT and most people thought it was just a might of time before he gets a main roster call-up💔
@@fabianperez4447 they will never bring him back that would be a PR nightmare that they don’t want especially with all of the praise they’re getting right now.
@@kevin_cabeza14 PR nightmare like covering up a murder for 30 years? Or some of the more sketchy characters of the past like Eugene, Beaver Cleavage and let's not forget Vince wrestling God lol But has he actually been charged and/or convicted?? If not then I see zero reason why he can't continue to ply his trade
It is interesting how he entered wrestling to evade a life of drugs and other tumultuous issues that were in his path, only to encounter them during his wrestling career anyways. Kinda says something not just about him but also about the wrestling business itself.
Btw for those who don't understand the being shaped by Smackdown thing. Smackdown was on UPN a network that didn't require cable unlike USA/spike at the time. One of my best friends growing up was raised by a single mom and they never had cable. So his wrestling fandom was shaped solely by Smackdown.
Velveteen Dream is legit one of the most promising stars in the future of wrestling and just turned out to be a huge creep. That's really disapointing.
Reality is often disappointing, and talent shouldn't always be placed above accountability. People saying shit like this to him probably got him a big head thinking he was above shit. Dude's ego and overall vile character made it hard for me to care about him when he WAS in NXT.
@@davestephens3246 I don't deal play the "If" game, this is reality, and accountability and due consequences come to anyone deserving, myself included.
The reason I loved velveteen was because he was different.In a company full of great wrestlers he bought the character work.Once in a generation talent that made a Fan base full of mostly straight men and women comfortable enough with their sexuality to cheer a homosexual man.He is a man who I desperately want to see get a second chance but deep down in my heart I know that will never happen because he was his own downfall.
Bro it honestly is sad. This man had so much potential SO MUCH potential. Like JOHN CENA literally stated he wanted to Wrestle with him at some point. Bro could’ve been such a huge star.
He could have been a megastar, especially under Vince. He was the most complete character NXT ever produced. He had the look, the in-ring ability, a perfect gimmick, the mic skills... A shame
If all this stuff ends up being false it’s going to be a real bummer man. His situation ruined what could have been a top 10 character in modern wrestling
This one is just sad. I remember seeing his breakout performances such as Takeover War Games in 2017, the match against Ciampa in 2018 and his reign as North American Champion all showed he had potential to become a big star in WWE. And then… he ruined it… all by himself…
What if Dream didn't get arrested recently last year and this year . Dream would be back to NXT 2.0/Global accompanied with new heel manager Roxanne Perez
Velveteen Dream was a star his feuds with Black, Ricochet, Ciampa and Adam Cole were great . I would like him to come back but now he’s DAMN SURE not coming back
Dream would have been very good in the main roster with now Hunter taking control and we may have seen some great interactions with some wrestlers such as Rollins, Reigns, Miz, Styles, etc. Now, shit got down.
This video is so well made. Much better than the other wrestling documentaries that you would have to pay for. I honestly did not know about Velveteen dream before this video, but you really did a good job on telling the story.
The more I think about it the less sense EC3's story makes. For starters, if you really saw that, why didn't you confront him then and there and report his ass to management or file a police report? Second, the timing is just a little too perfect.
See, I'm thinking why let him pretend that he didn't get caught? Like I would keep the phone and call the police and give it to them. And how long would that phone be recording to get footage of people using the restroom?
Yeah, EC3 is clearly full of shit here and the other stuff is a bit sus too. It is just easy with a gimmick like velveteen dream to make claims like that and the culture in wrestling is toxic as fuck. The alleged victims should definitely be taken seriously but this situation should definitely be looked at with a few serious asterisk tbh.
His shitty promotion is dead now since WWE took back Braun and Kross. He needs something to say or do to keep the spotlight on himself. Other than that I wouldn't be surprised if something comes out down the line about EC3 getting freaky with the boys.
Such a shame to see, was my favourite thing in wrestling in 2018. Think it was a case of getting too big, too young. He couldn’t handle it and his demons took over. Whether said allegations are true or not I hope he finds peace with himself and gets the help he needs. Great video aswell by the way, really enjoying this type of content.
I was one of the people that thought he should have won TE… so when I saw him getting an NXT push and everyone co-signing him it felt like a personal win. It’s sad to see that his demons overpowered everything he had going for him.
This really hurts to watch, Velveteen Dream was such a good wrestler and entertaining but Suddenly his life went downhill and he fell hard. Sad that he lost his dad and saying he was gonna stay away from drugs. (Sucks that part didn't age well) The allegations and the arrests proved he was a despicable person, even other Wrestlers and Talents had a bad experience with being around him. He could've had it all and become a Massive Guy in the industry and he threw it all away 😔
He didn't throw anything away, everyone just messed up his mindset, many wwe superstars were going around throwing shade towards him, HHH tried to help but others just boosted the allegations that were proven to be fake, him doing drugs was just him accepting he has nobody. And the wwe superstars that threw shade or commented abt him are just as bad tbh.
I'm very sad about what happened with Dream, I hope he grows up and finds some motivation to become better and maybe make a comeback during his midlife or so.
I was a fan of Dream I had great hopes for him especially Cause Cena insisted on facing him at Mania it could have been an amazing passing of the Torch. But Unless he gets his crap together I don't see it happening
Such a sad story. I remember moving him on Tough Enough too. I was actually in attendance for that Raw where they had the Tough Enough crew on stage. It was in Atlanta on July 13th 2015. Same night Sasha, Becky & Charlotte debuted. Little did I know he’d a star on the ride and flame out just as quickly.
Man Velveteen Dream vs Malakai/Aleister Black is the Breakout Match for him that time the potential is thru the roof for him its so sad what things panned out to him
It’s just sad. Guy was young and mega talented, but even HHH pointed out the fact that he was his own enemy. I hope he makes a comeback, if not in WWE, just in his own life.
remember just watching a clip of what he was doing in nxt and just thought that man looks like a star already and just different reminded me of how important having a great character is in wrestling rather than being another wrestler he got my attention right away very unique
This is gonna go down as one of the saddest downfalls. The dude had decades of being a main eventer ahead of him. He had it all. Guy was incredible. Now this. I really hope somehow things turn around.
Now he'll never get that chance he threw everything away even without the allegations he wouldn't have lasted long on the main roster with his attitude problems
Damn and Velveteen Dream was one of the wrestlers that keep me watching NXT (I still do). To have all that support from around the world only to have fallen this far from grace is a real shame. #DreamOver
Honestly I hope none of these allegations are true and that he’s really only fighting demons and just has a behavioral problem backstage. If it’s just those two things, I’m sure he can make a comeback if his heart is in the right place.
@@matthewsmith6176 they allegations got disproved already, in terms of the grooming, he did clear up the EC3 stuff but the drugs and everything has him fucked still honestly
@@qamara2476 and yet we still promote rappers who encourage drug use. black community has GOT to wake up. im sick of this crap.. we sit around doing nothing
@@kozmicflush980 bro calm your racist ass down. It’s not a “black community” issue. Plenty of white folks, Latino folk, Asian folk, and anyone under the sun, glorify, abuse, and are addicted to drugs. So why don’t you worry about your own ignorant bigoted self before you go out pointing fingers and generalizing an entire race of people. Dumb*ss.
I think he's done I hate to say it but their is too much dirt on his name, if he's innocent of the texting minors thing then that's a dang shame that he didn't have any proof but innocent or guilty it is his fault because he was the one who (according to Dream) let people know on his IG story that he will open up his dm's. But the ec3 one, both messed up, on hand why didn't EC3 confront Dream about it right then, then on the other hand Dream didn't provide enough answers like (according to ec3) why was the phone propped up selfie style and recording.
I absolutely *loved* him, man! I supported him throughout his run in "Tough Enough" all the way into his NXT run. He really had it all going for him...
The Tough enough promo is just soul-crushing to hear now that we now what he is currently doing. He is still very young, though, he can definitely turn it around. I really hope he does. He was such an amazing talent. Loved him ever since Tough enough.
I had the pleasure of going to NXT Takeover New York in 2019, one of my all time favorite life experiences. I’d have to say that Velveteen Dream got THE biggest pop of the night, watching it on video doesn’t do it justice, he was insanely over with that crowd. A big reason why he got so over was because he was different than everyone else, the character of the Velveteen Dream could’ve been the biggest star in the company. If all these incidents hadn’t happened, I could see Dream being in the spot that LA Knight is in now. But he threw it all away. He is still young so hopefully he can turn things around in his personal life.
On again off again fan here - I remember seeing this guy wrestle on nxt ppvs and thinking wow this guy might be a big star one day! Great video hopefully things work out in some way
if Jeff Hardy and EG were able to pick themselves up, dust themselves off and resurface to now having hallowed careers I am hopeful that The Dream can too!
@@jacksonjacob7791they could gives him a chance but let's be honest here, Times has change. Nowadays, WWE didn't want to associate themselves with Wrestlers who commit crimes. If this is 2007, Clark could've been in the main roster and probably one of WWE biggest Star.
I'm one of the few people probably who never believe on the SPEAK OUT movement, a lot of people who got accused and call out there got their careers destroy and many where never prove to be 100% TRUTH, this mess up hard people, and I hate when we see people who are talented get destroy by this, not everyone have the mental attitude to get back up after some real nasty allegations are toss at you, specially on this day and age......I not defend Velveteen for all the others accusations, those actually got more weight coming from people who work with him and he defined had and attitude....but be honest, WHO WRESTLER or big star don't have an attitude, just look at people like HBK or recently CM Punk, this is a business of egos, drugs, alcohol and all that stuff after all, maybe with time he could have turn this around if he was keep working and the company just keep him out or never bring him back as fast as they did....his story now will forever be one of the major What if? in Wrestling and I just hope this story not end in tragedy and he get the help he need now, he clearly have huge internal problems and because of the stupid allegations NO ONE is trying to help him or getting close to make him see that he need the help now.
I was relieved to find out that WWE retained him to get a chance; but I utterly hated the Velveteen Dream gimmick... at first. It brought up way too many memories of Orlando Jordan's gimmick in TNA; and I felt they were saddling the guy with something that'd be an anchor around his neck. Then I saw his feuds with Ricochet, Black and Ciampa and I was totally invested. It's nothing short of tragic for things to end up the way they did.
I always felt that dream could’ve truly been the new face of the company. In my opinion his character was the only one that felt “larger than life”. With the world promoting and accepting the LGBT movement he just always seemed to be the natural choice for this day and age. It sucks that there was a lot more going on than we knew. I hope he pulls himself together and figures himself out. Everyone needs to remember that he is still a young man figuring this strange world just like the rest of us.
Don't want to be remembered for dealing drugs but is now remembered to be going after young girls and a sexual predator yeah cause thats a real thing better than selling drugs
Man, it’s very sad about Velveteen Dream( Patrick Clark) because he definitely would have been world champion, and to headline Wrestlemania. At least at 2:14, MJF is doing well so far. By the start of January 1st 2024, Max could stay at AEW or make the jump. That’s why wrestling is awesome.
Soon as I saw this I just had to clean because I loved velveteen dream from when he was on Tough Enough. I remember being pissed he got fired after the now Sonya Deville, & I was waiting for him to make it to the main roster where he was destined to become a SUPERSTAR. What a shame his personal life ruined him🤦🏾♂️
If any thing he needs to go indie or underground. Stay away from the drugs, ignore Twitter and get back on his feet. I liked the guy and will miss him despite what others may say
Without any of those accusations being confirmed, I really don’t see anything that happened being unrecoverable. He’ll be back in a WWE ring if he can keep himself clean for a bit
I'm not giving up on Dream. I know that he can turn himself around. It just takes time. He can do it. Besides, I miss him in NXT. Come on Dream, you got this
I replay his entrances more than I replay any "another guys" match. It's so sad to watch what happened. I hope he can make a comeback with his life, even not in WWE.
There have been wrestler who came back from drugs and other bad situations. I hope he can redeem his attitude, and return the Dream back to WWE like others have.
Man, Velveteen was such a waste of potential. Charismatic, talented, actually loves wrestling and wants to be the best. Works with whatever character you give him. He should be in the main roster right now feuding with the greats, not practically blackballed.
So let me get this straight, EC3 found Velveteen's phone in HIS bathroom recording his penis as he used the restroom. Instead of confiscating the phone, deleting recordings, and confronting Dream and kicking him out, he decides to only delete his recording and put the phone back on the counter to potentially record more people? That story doesn't even make sense and it makes EC3 an accessory because he not only found out about the "secret recording," but he actually admitted to putting the phone back to record some more. He's clearly lying about what happened that night.
Prodigy is absolutely NOT farfetched, or an overstatement. This guy was a license to print money. It's really sad to see where he's gone... I just hope he can sort himself out before it's too late.
because maybe everything has already been said. Are you suggesting that it takes more than 2 accusations to actually draw the line and justify releasing him?
The arrest he could come back from. He could even possibly come back from the allegations, but the ECW story stacked on top of it plus the hard to work with. A few years if people give him a chance then I think he could crawl way back to the top.
His fall was a mix of peer jealously and his own sabotage. See, there's a big chance his refusal to shake hands at RAW in 2021 was his method of lighting a fire under future main roster opponents. But what he doesn't understand is, people aren't likely to see it as such. It is seen as disrespect to do that. He strikes me as someone who knew how good he was. How much better he was than everyone else. And people in the locker room (as wrestling history has shown) hate that. So combined with his real life troubles, everyone wanted him gone. They didn't want to have to lose to him. They didn't want to lose TV Time to him. In a way, many of his peers backstage probably prayed for his downfall. All the legends loved him. All the young talent hated him.
its just sad every time you think of his name now. its the saddest fall from grace from wrestling i seen in a long time. hope none of this is true honestly praying for homie thats all i can say. the man had the world in his hands
God, there was a time where Dream was one of my favourite wrestlers on the planet (then again, so was Tessa Blanchard; I sure know how to pick 'em) , I thought he was another 'Can't Miss' prospect and his feud with Black was so fucking good. But after all this, if I never see him on my TV ever again, it'll be too soon.
It actually makes me real sad how much potential Velveteen Dream had back in 2018 and now all that is gone
It rlly is a shame man
Homie gets resigned. He’s not a what if. He’s a soon to be
@@fabianperez4447 man fucked around with kids there's no way he get's resigned
He had an eye for grooming talent as well
Bro, I agree. I was a huge fan of the character. I still go back and watch his Takeover matches.
One of my biggest pet peeves is when someone who is extremely talented and knows their talented, choose to make dumb decisions and throw all their talent down the drain. Velveteen Dream will always be one of the biggest "what ifs" in the history of the wrestling business.
Him and Carlito
He was framed
@@iorilamia how bout you frame deez nuts onto your chin. ANYONE saying dude was framed is likely an individual who is okay with his behavior. Dream is a coke head and a rapist.
Unless you’re an Uso…
@@SCU3A_S7EVE I was about to say what is this idiotic comment talking about until I thought about it and it actually kinda makes sense. With that being said, I still think Velveteen had a higher ceiling than either of the Usos in my opinion.
Hearing his tough enough audition and seeing where he ended up... it's haunting... really.
Self confidence, without egotism, is one of the most positive attributes a human can possess. Egotism leads one to feel invincible, which in turn turns men and women into monsters
I had never seen his Tough Enough audition tape until this video and it's just clicked with me, too.
It's sad what has happened to his career, he was one of the biggest prospects out of NXT and most people thought it was just a might of time before he gets a main roster call-up💔
wonder what couldve been
glad he didn’t
@@SuperkickStudios it still can. He’s not dead
@@fabianperez4447 they will never bring him back that would be a PR nightmare that they don’t want especially with all of the praise they’re getting right now.
@@kevin_cabeza14 PR nightmare like covering up a murder for 30 years? Or some of the more sketchy characters of the past like Eugene, Beaver Cleavage and let's not forget Vince wrestling God lol But has he actually been charged and/or convicted?? If not then I see zero reason why he can't continue to ply his trade
It is interesting how he entered wrestling to evade a life of drugs and other tumultuous issues that were in his path, only to encounter them during his wrestling career anyways. Kinda says something not just about him but also about the wrestling business itself.
This comment is very important & also let’s you know what Vince let slide
A man will usually find his destiny on the path he took to avoid it...
The last place some body with drugs problems should go is WWE lbs
Best comment here
Says he was playing a character in real life too
The man had it all, the look, the charisma, the talent, he had everything to be a future main event guy, and he threw it all away. What a shame.
Cocaine is a Helluva Drug Bro …..
(Rick James voice) …….. 👀
He can make a comeback. He'll be alright
And there's Vince McMahon...
Btw for those who don't understand the being shaped by Smackdown thing. Smackdown was on UPN a network that didn't require cable unlike USA/spike at the time. One of my best friends growing up was raised by a single mom and they never had cable. So his wrestling fandom was shaped solely by Smackdown.
Not gonna lie this dude was my favorite wrestler living at one point.
dude won me over in 2017 for sure. undeniable talent sad to see what happened
Same he was my favorite to
Same he was my favorite too
Yea same here ifs very disheartening....I hope he finds the help he needs
2019 without a doubt 😭
Velveteen Dream is legit one of the most promising stars in the future of wrestling and just turned out to be a huge creep. That's really disapointing.
Reality is often disappointing, and talent shouldn't always be placed above accountability. People saying shit like this to him probably got him a big head thinking he was above shit. Dude's ego and overall vile character made it hard for me to care about him when he WAS in NXT.
@@davestephens3246 I don't deal play the "If" game, this is reality, and accountability and due consequences come to anyone deserving, myself included.
Creep ??
@@arkhamprinxe bullyshit.
@@fabianperez4447 Yes
The reason I loved velveteen was because he was different.In a company full of great wrestlers he bought the character work.Once in a generation talent that made a Fan base full of mostly straight men and women comfortable enough with their sexuality to cheer a homosexual man.He is a man who I desperately want to see get a second chance but deep down in my heart I know that will never happen because he was his own downfall.
you desperately want a pedo to get a 2nd chance ?
Was he ? Notice that since he was let go no new allegations of child sexual content ever came up again.. Hmm
He wasn't.
These woke SJW American culture WAS his downfall.
He is still young tho, he still have time.
Now the answer is back to himself.
@@arinevermore 100% facts all of it
I completely agree. Thats the same reason I loved how he presented himself on NXT. A gay portraying man that wasnt a joke or always a heel.
Bro it honestly is sad. This man had so much potential SO MUCH potential. Like JOHN CENA literally stated he wanted to Wrestle with him at some point. Bro could’ve been such a huge star.
sucks to see, his hype was something else
Could have been the face of WWE.. DAMNN IT HURTS JUST TO THINK OF IT
Imagine a rivalry between him and the current seth rollins. What a waste
@@doomstan yoooo facts, the mind games they would’ve played
He could have been a megastar, especially under Vince. He was the most complete character NXT ever produced. He had the look, the in-ring ability, a perfect gimmick, the mic skills... A shame
If all this stuff ends up being false it’s going to be a real bummer man. His situation ruined what could have been a top 10 character in modern wrestling
FACTS he probably could have been a future wwe champion.
I doubt everyone is lying on him. He’s definitely on some shit he needs an attitude adjustment
They did it to Enzo Amore, he was innocent but still released, dude was great on the mic promos were gold
@@aariesharris7894 he still young. Let's hope someone like DDP picked him up
@@arinevermore no
Nice to see the velveteen dreams career being talk about in an unbiased way
Ikr
From being called the next big thing to being unwanted in the business in every promotion.
Talk about a fall from grace.
Dude pulled up to our wrestling academy and blew us away it really intimidatied all of us the level he is at.
This one is just sad. I remember seeing his breakout performances such as Takeover War Games in 2017, the match against Ciampa in 2018 and his reign as North American Champion all showed he had potential to become a big star in WWE. And then… he ruined it… all by himself…
This man will always be the product of a What if debate.
What if The Velveteen Dream hadn't been accused and fired?
He wasn’t accused, he was caught
@@babydragon3095 he was accused those two guys were manipulating the conversation
What if he hadn’t been a Freak …… 💀
Then he started selling the NXT guys coke after he got fired lol
What if Dream didn't get arrested recently last year and this year .
Dream would be back to NXT 2.0/Global accompanied with new heel manager Roxanne Perez
It is sad to see how someone with an amazing future and a massive amount of potential go down a deep spiral so fast.
Velveteen Dream was a star his feuds with Black, Ricochet, Ciampa and Adam Cole were great . I would like him to come back but now he’s DAMN SURE not coming back
The only word to describe Patrick "The Velveteen Dream" Clark:
*Tragic*
You sound like ‘Mr Omar’ from Everybody Hates Chris ….. 😂
Dream would have been very good in the main roster with now Hunter taking control and we may have seen some great interactions with some wrestlers such as Rollins, Reigns, Miz, Styles, etc. Now, shit got down.
Unless He gets his crap together earns respect back from his fans, Hunter, Shawn and Regal plus his former Co Workers then it will happen
@@Kalel2.0 why regal?
This video is so well made. Much better than the other wrestling documentaries that you would have to pay for. I honestly did not know about Velveteen dream before this video, but you really did a good job on telling the story.
The more I think about it the less sense EC3's story makes. For starters, if you really saw that, why didn't you confront him then and there and report his ass to management or file a police report? Second, the timing is just a little too perfect.
He never admitted or denied the drug use as well! He said he was never caught or failed a drug test for an employer?
See, I'm thinking why let him pretend that he didn't get caught? Like I would keep the phone and call the police and give it to them. And how long would that phone be recording to get footage of people using the restroom?
Yeah, EC3 is clearly full of shit here and the other stuff is a bit sus too. It is just easy with a gimmick like velveteen dream to make claims like that and the culture in wrestling is toxic as fuck. The alleged victims should definitely be taken seriously but this situation should definitely be looked at with a few serious asterisk tbh.
His shitty promotion is dead now since WWE took back Braun and Kross. He needs something to say or do to keep the spotlight on himself. Other than that I wouldn't be surprised if something comes out down the line about EC3 getting freaky with the boys.
That Alister V Velveteen Dream match was amazing! Entertaining from start to finish, even the build up to the match was flawless.
He'll forever go down as the biggest What Ifs in wrestling history
Such a shame to see, was my favourite thing in wrestling in 2018. Think it was a case of getting too big, too young. He couldn’t handle it and his demons took over. Whether said allegations are true or not I hope he finds peace with himself and gets the help he needs.
Great video aswell by the way, really enjoying this type of content.
All these Velveteen Dream stories makes me feel that this guy has to fix himself. It’s depressing how he killed his own career.
The Velveteen Dream can single-handedly save professional wrestling
I was one of the people that thought he should have won TE… so when I saw him getting an NXT push and everyone co-signing him it felt like a personal win. It’s sad to see that his demons overpowered everything he had going for him.
Missed opportunity not to end the video with a clip of Velveteen saying "Dream Over".
This really hurts to watch, Velveteen Dream was such a good wrestler and entertaining but Suddenly his life went downhill and he fell hard. Sad that he lost his dad and saying he was gonna stay away from drugs. (Sucks that part didn't age well)
The allegations and the arrests proved he was a despicable person, even other Wrestlers and Talents had a bad experience with being around him.
He could've had it all and become a Massive Guy in the industry and he threw it all away 😔
He didn't throw anything away, everyone just messed up his mindset, many wwe superstars were going around throwing shade towards him, HHH tried to help but others just boosted the allegations that were proven to be fake, him doing drugs was just him accepting he has nobody.
And the wwe superstars that threw shade or commented abt him are just as bad tbh.
I geuneintly thought he was going to be the future of the business back in 2017 and 2018. Sucks what happened.
his name is coolest agree on it
I'm very sad about what happened with Dream, I hope he grows up and finds some motivation to become better and maybe make a comeback during his midlife or so.
I was a fan of Dream I had great hopes for him especially Cause Cena insisted on facing him at Mania it could have been an amazing passing of the Torch. But Unless he gets his crap together I don't see it happening
Such a sad story. I remember moving him on Tough Enough too. I was actually in attendance for that Raw where they had the Tough Enough crew on stage. It was in Atlanta on July 13th 2015. Same night Sasha, Becky & Charlotte debuted. Little did I know he’d a star on the ride and flame out just as quickly.
Man Velveteen Dream vs Malakai/Aleister Black is the Breakout Match for him that time the potential is thru the roof for him its so sad what things panned out to him
It’s just sad. Guy was young and mega talented, but even HHH pointed out the fact that he was his own enemy. I hope he makes a comeback, if not in WWE, just in his own life.
remember just watching a clip of what he was doing in nxt and just thought that man looks like a star already and just different reminded me of how important having a great character is in wrestling rather than being another wrestler he got my attention right away very unique
This is gonna go down as one of the saddest downfalls. The dude had decades of being a main eventer ahead of him. He had it all. Guy was incredible. Now this. I really hope somehow things turn around.
Without the legal trouble and the personal baggage, Dream could’ve been one of the faces of SmackDown or Raw right now.
i could see it. dream vs rollins wouldve been pretty cool
@@SuperkickStudios yessir, no matter who'd played the face or the heel
Now he'll never get that chance he threw everything away even without the allegations he wouldn't have lasted long on the main roster with his attitude problems
Damn and Velveteen Dream was one of the wrestlers that keep me watching NXT (I still do). To have all that support from around the world only to have fallen this far from grace is a real shame. #DreamOver
Honestly I hope none of these allegations are true and that he’s really only fighting demons and just has a behavioral problem backstage. If it’s just those two things, I’m sure he can make a comeback if his heart is in the right place.
the allegations are real and true
@@matthewsmith6176 they allegations got disproved already, in terms of the grooming, he did clear up the EC3 stuff but the drugs and everything has him fucked still honestly
@@qamara2476 and yet we still promote rappers who encourage drug use. black community has GOT to wake up. im sick of this crap.. we sit around doing nothing
@@kozmicflush980 bro calm your racist ass down. It’s not a “black community” issue. Plenty of white folks, Latino folk, Asian folk, and anyone under the sun, glorify, abuse, and are addicted to drugs. So why don’t you worry about your own ignorant bigoted self before you go out pointing fingers and generalizing an entire race of people. Dumb*ss.
I think he's done I hate to say it but their is too much dirt on his name, if he's innocent of the texting minors thing then that's a dang shame that he didn't have any proof but innocent or guilty it is his fault because he was the one who (according to Dream) let people know on his IG story that he will open up his dm's.
But the ec3 one, both messed up, on hand why didn't EC3 confront Dream about it right then, then on the other hand Dream didn't provide enough answers like (according to ec3) why was the phone propped up selfie style and recording.
I absolutely *loved* him, man! I supported him throughout his run in "Tough Enough" all the way into his NXT run. He really had it all going for him...
Allegations were false so he could return to WWE since he's still young
The Tough enough promo is just soul-crushing to hear now that we now what he is currently doing. He is still very young, though, he can definitely turn it around. I really hope he does. He was such an amazing talent. Loved him ever since Tough enough.
I had the pleasure of going to NXT Takeover New York in 2019, one of my all time favorite life experiences. I’d have to say that Velveteen Dream got THE biggest pop of the night, watching it on video doesn’t do it justice, he was insanely over with that crowd. A big reason why he got so over was because he was different than everyone else, the character of the Velveteen Dream could’ve been the biggest star in the company. If all these incidents hadn’t happened, I could see Dream being in the spot that LA Knight is in now. But he threw it all away. He is still young so hopefully he can turn things around in his personal life.
He had so much potential and for him to have this fast fall it's sad he could have been a grand slam champion in WWE. He was that good
He probably took Shawn Michaels training way too seriously.
Maybe he thought the Marty Janetty stories were advice?
Not gonna lie. This comment immediately made me think of Pat Patterson and the rumors that he groomed Shawn.
Say what now? @@JoanRudith
On again off again fan here - I remember seeing this guy wrestle on nxt ppvs and thinking wow this guy might be a big star one day! Great video hopefully things work out in some way
if Jeff Hardy and EG were able to pick themselves up, dust themselves off and resurface to now having hallowed careers I am hopeful that The Dream can too!
He was one of the highlights of NXT and I barely even watched it. Maybe he should be given another chance idk.
@@jacksonjacob7791they could gives him a chance but let's be honest here, Times has change. Nowadays, WWE didn't want to associate themselves with Wrestlers who commit crimes. If this is 2007, Clark could've been in the main roster and probably one of WWE biggest Star.
@@SheanWalsh46 yeah. Given its a publicly traded company they need to do things a certain way. The guy can't be touched unfortunately.
This guy had such a bright future ahead of him in WWE, he was most definitely gonna be a star and he threw it all away
I'm one of the few people probably who never believe on the SPEAK OUT movement, a lot of people who got accused and call out there got their careers destroy and many where never prove to be 100% TRUTH, this mess up hard people, and I hate when we see people who are talented get destroy by this, not everyone have the mental attitude to get back up after some real nasty allegations are toss at you, specially on this day and age......I not defend Velveteen for all the others accusations, those actually got more weight coming from people who work with him and he defined had and attitude....but be honest, WHO WRESTLER or big star don't have an attitude, just look at people like HBK or recently CM Punk, this is a business of egos, drugs, alcohol and all that stuff after all, maybe with time he could have turn this around if he was keep working and the company just keep him out or never bring him back as fast as they did....his story now will forever be one of the major What if? in Wrestling and I just hope this story not end in tragedy and he get the help he need now, he clearly have huge internal problems and because of the stupid allegations NO ONE is trying to help him or getting close to make him see that he need the help now.
I was relieved to find out that WWE retained him to get a chance; but I utterly hated the Velveteen Dream gimmick... at first. It brought up way too many memories of Orlando Jordan's gimmick in TNA; and I felt they were saddling the guy with something that'd be an anchor around his neck. Then I saw his feuds with Ricochet, Black and Ciampa and I was totally invested. It's nothing short of tragic for things to end up the way they did.
Difference is Orlandos was a flop and had no where near the talent or charisma that Velveteen has.
Fantastic documentary. Keep them coming.
0:51 undertaker and Kurt doing the beat down on hulk Hogan really captures the magic of rasslin.
Great choice!
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In the end he was his own worst enemy, and it's sad
Velveteen had that charisma the type of charisma we only saw from steve,Rocky and cena.
He was definitely the next big thing.
I’m hoping Velveteen Dream gets a chance again with WWE in around 3 years when he turns 30
I was so high on dream it hurts seeing him criticized and pretty much gone from the business
Wow man! Great video everything well explained!
hope you enjoyed
Velveteen Dream and Johnny Gargano were my favorite wrestlers from that era of black and gold NXT.
1:21 he looked exactly like brandon does everything (BDE). Lol
At one point in time I actually could see dream vs cena at a wrestle mania or summer slam
I always felt that dream could’ve truly been the new face of the company. In my opinion his character was the only one that felt “larger than life”. With the world promoting and accepting the LGBT movement he just always seemed to be the natural choice for this day and age. It sucks that there was a lot more going on than we knew. I hope he pulls himself together and figures himself out. Everyone needs to remember that he is still a young man figuring this strange world just like the rest of us.
Don't want to be remembered for dealing drugs but is now remembered to be going after young girls and a sexual predator yeah cause thats a real thing better than selling drugs
It sucks to hear how his whole goal was to not be like his dad…and look where he ends up… 😔
dude had the makings of a future world champ
I came back to wrestling as an adult during his time in NXT, his matches with Aleister Black were absolutely amazing. It’s a shame
Absolutely loved the persona… such a shame as HHH would’ve likely hired him back if he kept himself clean
Top 3 what if all time for wrestling
Wow, That Promo In The Tough Enough Video Really Hits Different Now. 😞✊
Man, it’s very sad about Velveteen Dream( Patrick Clark) because he definitely would have been world champion, and to headline Wrestlemania. At least at 2:14, MJF is doing well so far. By the start of January 1st 2024, Max could stay at AEW or make the jump. That’s why wrestling is awesome.
Velveteen Dream is the Derrick Rose of Pro-Wrestling
I'm just gobsmacked that he was something special at that age (22).
Damn that audition tape just makes it hurt even more
Soon as I saw this I just had to clean because I loved velveteen dream from when he was on Tough Enough. I remember being pissed he got fired after the now Sonya Deville, & I was waiting for him to make it to the main roster where he was destined to become a SUPERSTAR. What a shame his personal life ruined him🤦🏾♂️
If any thing he needs to go indie or underground. Stay away from the drugs, ignore Twitter and get back on his feet. I liked the guy and will miss him despite what others may say
Speaking of him holding the North American Championship,he’s still longest reigning at holding it at 209 days
Without any of those accusations being confirmed, I really don’t see anything that happened being unrecoverable. He’ll be back in a WWE ring if he can keep himself clean for a bit
I'm not giving up on Dream. I know that he can turn himself around. It just takes time. He can do it. Besides, I miss him in NXT. Come on Dream, you got this
Not giving up on a pedo wow
the dude is a drug using loser who's physically attacked people and was possibly grooming young boys. you're a freaking idiot.
You must have faith in R kelly too huh? 😆😂
Delusional!
@@donswayze7587 I don't give 2 sh*ts about R Kelly. But Velveteen Dream, I feel he just needs help you know. So, yeah He can turn his life around
He really fumbled the bag. So many legends were behind him too..
I want him back on tv. he is the kind of wrestler we need. this man devoted his life to wrestling. it's all he knows. don't take it from him.❤
I replay his entrances more than I replay any "another guys" match. It's so sad to watch what happened. I hope he can make a comeback with his life, even not in WWE.
There have been wrestler who came back from drugs and other bad situations. I hope he can redeem his attitude, and return the Dream back to WWE like others have.
Man, Velveteen was such a waste of potential. Charismatic, talented, actually loves wrestling and wants to be the best. Works with whatever character you give him. He should be in the main roster right now feuding with the greats, not practically blackballed.
He is the Velvet-teen Dream...
I remember seeing an article saying "Velveteen Dream had the attitude of 90's Shawn" which is a wild af attitude to have if true tbh.
He's today's Shawn Michaels.
So let me get this straight, EC3 found Velveteen's phone in HIS bathroom recording his penis as he used the restroom. Instead of confiscating the phone, deleting recordings, and confronting Dream and kicking him out, he decides to only delete his recording and put the phone back on the counter to potentially record more people?
That story doesn't even make sense and it makes EC3 an accessory because he not only found out about the "secret recording," but he actually admitted to putting the phone back to record some more.
He's clearly lying about what happened that night.
he was drunk and probly didnt want drama started since he was still in wwe and dream was top star
@@wingedhussar1453 it’s clear bullshit
@@wingedhussar1453 stop making excuses for potential predator behavior. Depending on local laws, he may have been obligated to report it.
@@atlien1988 im talkling aBOUT EC3 NOT REPROTING IT
And the funny thing is, he still follows him on Instagram.
Damn
Would have loved to see Velveteen on wrestlemania
Prodigy is absolutely NOT farfetched, or an overstatement. This guy was a license to print money. It's really sad to see where he's gone... I just hope he can sort himself out before it's too late.
It's pretty ironic that since Dream was let go there hasn't been any new allegations of that nature.. Coincidence ? 🤔
because maybe everything has already been said.
Are you suggesting that it takes more than 2 accusations to actually draw the line and justify releasing him?
Does seem a bit fishy.... hmmm
The arrest he could come back from. He could even possibly come back from the allegations, but the ECW story stacked on top of it plus the hard to work with. A few years if people give him a chance then I think he could crawl way back to the top.
What's interesting is if Dream was around in 2002 around the time Randy Orton was doing similar things he probably would've remained in the company
Fr lmfaooo, that’s the worst part
He needs to fix himself first and challenge his own demons. I believe he'll come back to the WWE if he can get over his problems
His fall was a mix of peer jealously and his own sabotage. See, there's a big chance his refusal to shake hands at RAW in 2021 was his method of lighting a fire under future main roster opponents. But what he doesn't understand is, people aren't likely to see it as such. It is seen as disrespect to do that. He strikes me as someone who knew how good he was. How much better he was than everyone else. And people in the locker room (as wrestling history has shown) hate that. So combined with his real life troubles, everyone wanted him gone. They didn't want to have to lose to him. They didn't want to lose TV Time to him. In a way, many of his peers backstage probably prayed for his downfall. All the legends loved him. All the young talent hated him.
its just sad every time you think of his name now. its the saddest fall from grace from wrestling i seen in a long time. hope none of this is true honestly praying for homie thats all i can say. the man had the world in his hands
Really sad what happened to this guy. So talented.
I think it’s shade showing MJF tough enough entry 🤣🤣🤣
At first your channel was recommended and now I'm like this is good channel keep up the good work
God, there was a time where Dream was one of my favourite wrestlers on the planet (then again, so was Tessa Blanchard; I sure know how to pick 'em) , I thought he was another 'Can't Miss' prospect and his feud with Black was so fucking good. But after all this, if I never see him on my TV ever again, it'll be too soon.