The Edgiest SRPG - Valkyrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume | KBash Game Reviews
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- Опубликовано: 29 ноя 2022
- "a plume drenched in blood to pen the course of history"
omg he did a video on an old srpg some number of people played brooooo
Covenant of the Plume is weird for a few reasons. Firstly, nixing the Valkyrie main character thing, but sure, Wylfred's viable. Second, trying to transpose traditional VP gameplay onto an srpg framework, which does well, it's not awful, but it comes with a lot of little quirks.
For example, most units are melee-exclusive, and don't get the ability to initiate combat at range (all combat is to be initiated, you're not just dropping single attacks, but trying to land squad-strikes) and so many characters lack the utility of, say, FFT with it's classes. No melee unit has a ranged attack, everyone has access to the same pool of utility options via skills, it's WEIRD.
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Genuinely my favourite of the Valkyrie Profile games mechanically, and I love the branching narrative. Was it edgy? Absolutely. Was Wylfred sarcastic as hell? Hell yes. It was so damn edgy that it totally realised it was ludicrous, and ripped it's own story a new one in the Seraphic Gate, especially with the Truthade descriptions of the characters.
And I loved that each recruitable character is, in a sense, a reflection of Wyl or his family situation. When you realise that, it adds so much to understanding them, since they're basically just different facets of a small selection of character archetypes, even though they each have distinct personalities.
Only thing I wish is that the characters interacted with each other after their chapters were over, at least on the A route, since you can guarantee their survival in that one.
My favorite part of any kbash video is finding out which patreon names he's absolutely going to lose his shit over
My favorite right now is cheify boi
This is the best part I swear
Hearing "it's not bad" shortly followed by "it's not good" is so fuckin funny
Kraden supporting kbash after years of the later bashing him is the character development of the century.
the Seraphic Gate mode after you finished the game has a lighter tone than the original story & also some hilarious dialogue
This game really says, "You need to kill your friends, NOW." And then gives you a better ending if you don't. :)
It's kinda' like the edgier spiritual prequel to Fuga: Melodies of Steel.
I mean in Fuga's case it's not a "you need to kill your friends", but rather "it's an option and it might make some fights easier, but is it really worth winning if you sacrifice the people important to you?"
@@okaminodin4321 to be fair Covenant of the Plume if you stop sacrificing right away - Wilfred very early in story will show that he was so shocked and hurt by what happened to Ancel after... Well... He was tricked into using Plume... He became afraid to use it ever again.
Also Ancel's "Plume's Reward" Legacy skill Wilfred gets is enough to get good ending on first run. Yes it is hard but not crazy hard - just makes you really count when to use what - especially your only Plume superbuff (And Ancel's buff is CRAZY STRONG)
@@okaminodin4321 i mean i got VPCs good end 1st playthrough its not mandatory outside of the tutorial which iirc is something FUGA also does for the tutorial besides that its fully optional. dont get me wrong if you do the good end of VPC its gonna be hell but its doable. its even possible to rack up all the SIN quotas without sacrificing even once
Do you know how hard it is to kill all the kids in Fuga on a first playthrought?
@@caellanmurphy4751
It’s not hell at all.
If you are decent at strategy RPGs and become more than proficient at juggling and timing the combos in general then the A ending on your 1st playthrough becomes very easy.
You can eventually get so good at combos that you don’t even need soul crushes for most of the game to get full overkills on enemies and the soul crush notification actually becomes a nuisance threatening to break up your combos rather than a trump card. You can get so good at tactically maneuvering your characters and using skills that you actually start feeling sorry for the game in thinking it is challenging you.
Didn’t even know this one existed. Definitely going to LEGALLY ACQUIRE a copy.
This game has a special place in my heart. Lets see if it was as good as I remember it to be lol.
It’s better than you remember.
It is a criminally underrated gem.
nope
A good review of this one! It was one of my favorites, despite all of its multifarious problems. I actually thought Wylfred standing by and letting things happen was kind of a nice narrative element, characterizing him as the kid he still is- he doesn't have the will to act because he knows he's already in over his head and he needs to stick with the plan or he'll never get what he selfishly wants. So he just sidesteps all these political machinations, and either he uses his friends because he can't stop being selfish, or he doesn't because he's too scared to commit. Ultimately he's not angry at Lenneth; he's angry at the unfeeling forces of the universe that move without a care to his wishes, and this is his terrible way of trying to extract some kind of control. IDK it just works better than it should.
Tales series would be dope.
I love the faux-Shakespeare in these tactics games. Been playing the Tactics Ogre remake and the writing reminds me why I love these games so much.
Writing is the thing that pulls you to those games?
Alexander O. Smith is the translator I think his best written game is Vagrant Story for ps1
I played the PS1 version of that one!
Wishlist on Switch Zero Doubt!
Oh right, I remember this. The game story was interesting as you see how some things in the different Routes are explained in other routes, like the incident that got the Mage and Healer kicked out of the service of the Court was due to one guy on the other route where they end up killing each other. The story still ended up depressing me though.
It’s supposed to be depressing.
@@westonmeyer3110 Yes, but there was just something about the politics behind it and how you basically take in people who are effectively ready to die (raised as an Assassin, falsely accused, failed rebellion, etc.) and build a bond with them only to sacrifice them for the sake of power only for it to have been meaningless in the end.
@@TDSFounder
That’s the point though, you aren’t supposed to sacrifice them(from Wylfred’s POV). Losing Ancel to the plume because Wylfred was pushed into a corner was hard enough.
Wylfred thinks he has to sacrifice them but he ultimately discovers that empowering Hel is just making a terribly bleak world even worse and he is directly responsible for that so he has the responsibility to fix the damage he caused.
I'm pretty sure around the 9:00 mark I saw a spell called "Maleficent Harm" which is so spectacularly on the nose I legitimately can't stop thinking about it.
It's like Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest renaming their combat skills after medical terms, like "Furious Vivisection" or "Mystic Apendectamy".
Sounds like Motoi Sakuraba track titles
Japanese like to use english terms, like Americans use greek mythology terms, ya know?
The Super version of the Earth spell, right?
@@Ramsey276one Great Magic of Poison Blow actually . . . VP vet here. Beat all VP games lol.
Damn well traumatized me as a kid. The mechanics are so unique I struggle to find its likes still to this day
Another absolute banger of a video, thank you KBash! I had never heard of this series until watching your video, not the sort of thing I'd play but I always enjoy finding out about new games and series
kbash stays with the bangers! The game kicked my ass but I do love it edge and all. I actually found Wylfred quite compelling and liked how he knew he wasn't the guy to swing the fate of countries'. A lot of his alliances got him where he needed to go and maybe he'll get some allies but he's mostly focused on his mission. I think the DS presentation is why he stands like a cryptid in the corner in some scenes haha.
This game is godlike just because it puts you in the perspective of an ANTAGONIST of what would be the OG games, and you obtain power basically being the equivalent of the DEVIL in Nordic legends. Based game 10/10 would recommend
Yeah, Wilfred feels like that asshole rival that constantly shows up to try and stop you and progressively gets worse as the game goes on.
You’d love Soul Nomad’s evil route then. It’s not your normal “jerk hero” route. You kill everyone in your hometown because they’re annoying and sleep through nearly every opportunity you had to be a nice guy in the normal route.
@@THEFRISKIESTDINGO lul I played soul Nomad evil route , its been years now but I recall it being fun but being like my main character was just like "lets just be evil all of a sudden just for the sake of being evil" and then mindlessly kill everyone and thing then make the rest minions.
@@CyberPunkBadGuy yeah the MC was pretty goofy about it, but then you arrive _after_ that one girl turns 16 and… well, a lot of people really did benefit from your hero route. We’ll just leave it there.
I had no idea there was a Valkyrie Profile SRPG. Now I *have* to play this
That’s the spirit
Everytime he calls it "coom" I get taken out like I've been sucker punched in the face XD
Oooh thanks Kbash for covering this game!
Might want to make a supercut version a bit later when the next video is getting a delay
Thanks for covering games I wouldn’t even have the time of day to think about let alone play and whatnot!
You go Bro, Love the vids and the style! Keep it going!
Honestly, while I agree the combat can be kind of weird, this is still my second favorite VP game after 1. Its got great story and characters, which I felt was really lacking in 2 especially with the paper-thin einherjar (Also 2 nerfed mages into oblivion and they're my favorite class)
Though even with the likes of Valkyrie Anatomia and Valkyrie Elysium running around, I think we can safely say CotP is probably in most people's Top 3 Valkyrie Profile games lol
Always a good day when there’s a new upload
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Helllllll yeah, I was hoping you'd cover this one ^_^
I played this game to death on my DS. Good times!
I somehow got the best ending on my 1st playthrough without a guide. The key is fulfilling sin quotas and getting rewards at the end of each battle by overkilling each enemy as much as you can. I think you get 100 sin points on an overkill if you do overkill damage for an enemy's max hp. So when you start a combo off, on an enemy you've knocked down to a sliver of health, you might be able to pull that off. Failure to fulfil sin quotas results in madly overpowered enemies being thrown at you which requires you to sacrifice characters with the plume if you want to stand a chance.
Same I got best ending on first go. One big factor is when you fail to meet sin quota too. Some levels don't spawn a Shadow Character in the next. So as long as you meet them in the right levels you're good. But yeah, any level with the vampire enemies is pure RNG on whether they kill the escort or not, Rosea & Valmur levels.
Please play the Trails series.
I second this
Ys too :3
"and no one heard from Kbash for the next 3 years"
I guess you want each video to take multiple months.
PLEASE play Trails
Just so we don't forget, the bad ending's final boss theme is ironically more well-known for appearing in a Fire Emblem 7 Rom hack than in its own game.
Just thought it would be worth mentioning.
Can you tell me more?
@@danieladamczyk4024 Not without spoilers.
@@Hawkatana My body is ready.
Another excellent video KBash
Awesome video as always. The cherry on top was hearing you yell Bing Bing Doo Doo Oingo Boingo Time 😂
I'm begging you to cover Steamboat Chronicles, it's the most Kbash game ever
This was my first Valkyrie Profile Game so I originally thought they were al SRPGs lol.
Also, lol Gintama
Valkyrie Profile 2 plays very similarly to this game actually.
Holy shit I didn't think I would b hearing kasanarukage in a video in 2022 good shit, and good vid as always
I remember quite enjoying this game, but I think the reason mostly came down to "it has the Valkyrie Profile name and it isn't VP2" (I have more fondness for VP2 now than I used to, but I still find it painful and way too long). Although I would argue that the Seraphic Gate postgame is actually very fun to play through... I got through more runs of the Gate than I expected to.
I remember Luminous Arc on DS being a pretty good SRPG too. Hoping you cover Valkyrie Elysium at some point, liked it quite a lot myself it had a nostalgic ps2 game vibe to it.
Fan fact: There is a spiritual sucessor of Luminous Arc for 3DS called Stella Glow
Interesting but abrasive games really do turn you into a coomer. Glad you got around to this and I'm so grateful you kept this one concise; 20min was perfect. King work mr Bash, keep it up!
Bleak and somber, not edgy, is how I would describe it. Edgy is more like: "nothing personal kid" - Coldsteel The Hedgehog.
"sin points"
Heeeey Shadow, it's me, The Devil
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I haven't played it since it came out... but, I definitely remember really enjoying this game at the time. And it's still sitting on my shelf next to VP1, 2, and the PSP remake.
Looking forward to seeing you tackle the new game! I haven't checked it out yet... but I'm definitely curious about it.
Elysium is garbage
The first game from this series I played that I 100%. So I enjoyed it, looking forward to what you say about it.
Oh boy
my favorite time of the week
Man this was my 1st jrpg and my god did i fall in love with it its a shame that i will never experience something like this again
man, i always stay till the end to hear the supporters. canicussonhere is prob my fav
Just recently beta this game such solid story lines and one of the best post game content around
I only just started this video, so I dunno what you have to say yet, but I greatly enjoyed Covenant of the Plume
I really love this game, it's a gem
You know we need to see some armored core now.
That is one of my favorite DS games! I was so dumb back then because in my first playthrough, I GUNNED for the best ending. The problem was that the boss was so hard that I have to work in what I have.
I got the ending but I was super burned out lmao
Someone mentions random Vandal Hearts and I appreciate that and you. Haha
13:55 giga chad doing what most people do: ⭐ BYSTANDER EFFECT ⭐
Some games seem to be made specifically for KBash. Tis' one of those!
I'd really love to hear your thoughts on Boktai series. I think it'd be right up your alley.
The way KBash delivers his jokes make them more funnier
Thanks for another banger. Please try Diofield Chronicles.
Rather pass, this game is lame.
This video was made care and love . I can tell
This game was actually pretty cool. I remember not sacrificing anyone during my first playthrough but man was it a struggle to beat. I thought the last battle was literally unwinable on the first playthrough going down the no sacrifice route, but I literally won it partially because I was lucky and remember it being very gratifying.
You
*WAT*
@@Ramsey276one I also did it that way, and I wasn't using any power from the plume. But I was playing a lot of tactical RPGs back then, so it wasn't "that" hard. But the final battle was rally tough.
@@AlcyonEldara WOW
I can imagine
I'm enjoying Seraphic Gates myself
Damn, i kinda wrote this game off as ''just a spin-off''. But it seems there is way more going in this game then i expected. Def more interested now in playing it myself. Thx Kbash!!!
id highly reccomend it. if you want a decent challenge go for the good ending(the endings arent even cryptic unlike vp1) you know how to get each ending from the start of the game with a little logic(DASH is a godsend of a skill and if you do go good route 1st stock the HELL UP on items especially REVIVES)
It’s great, buy it.
Man I'm a huge fan of Valkyrie Profile and I've never played this one
If you do play it's way different from the others
Honestly it's my favorite in the series and that's very high praise considering how much I love the original.
I still prefer the original but that is only because of how amazing VP1 is. Covenant is still easily one of my favorite games ever.
Music is awesome
This game need a 3D Remake
You've triggered my PTSD of those stupid protect missions, with the suicidal companion AI. Loved watching them charge into enemies with no weapons or armor.
I love you KBash :)
COOM really said "kill your friends guilt free."
great video Kbash!! Also did u watch Gintama!!! I know that song opening song anywhere lolol
one of my favorite NDS game, absolutely love the gameplay and the mechanic of sacrificing our friends 😥
this game rules
A game I really liked, but have been hesitant to return to. Just like VP 2, I suppose.
If you want a "draw aggro" ability in an FFT-style SRPG where it matters more you might just enjoy Triangle Strategy
Lmao oh those names at the end 🤣🤣
KBash is too powerful, this video keeps crashing my phone
"The first one is a certified hood classic" lol
You gonna take a look at some other Tri-Ace games?
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that mechanic at vcotp broke me too at first. but in when i think about it, its similar to how valkyrie lenneth collects eihjariars except without the novelistic cut scene. and now its a mechanic. havnt still finished the game though. i just finished that unwinable rescue a.i. girl mission who plunges to her death first turn she gets
I've played all 3 Paths, & currently on the Seraphic Gate to get the Item that requires beating the Dungeon 10 times
Deadass if aggro-drawing is what you want you should take a look at both Fell Seal and the Tactics Ogre reissue
This is the game that got me into liking valkyrie profile combat and I enjoyed figuring out how to fight the valkyrie with all my friends did felt abit bad ganging up on a valkyrie and start kicking her while she was down like a jo jo reference lol
This is the game series why I bought Indivisible for Switch
I enjoyed this one
The only one I had the console for
XD
Play the Disgaea series your gonna love it
I think the reason your videos are so comfy is cause you still use so much of the original Fable soundtrack. Hits me in a soft spot. Probably THE softest spot.
That ending fml
I love covenant of the Plume.
It’s great
5:33 Many tactical RPGs don't use direct Provoke or aggro increasing skills because, put simply, it would be too strong of an ability for the player, and an absolute nightmare if an enemy were to lock all targeting to itself. Imagine if you could be assured all enemies would target your big, bulky armor knight in instead of the squishy healer directly next to him? Isn't it frustrating to not be able to target that rogue terrorizing your mage because the knight on the opposite side of you decided that he wants you to fight only him?
Many games use a concept called Zone of Control, or ZoC, to offset this. ZoC is anything that makes it harder to move directly past an enemy unit, like a movement penalty for tiles right next to a Knight, the "Overwatch" stance in X-Com, or Attacks of Opportunity in a game like D&D, allowing a free attack on anyone who moves past. Games that use a ZoC that reaches further than one tile also allow certain units to effectively trap others next to them, making it difficult to disengage and keeping others stuck with them.
Loved the video, was always curious to try this series, so it's nice to see someone else play through them.
Thank you for that information, im gona use it one of my videos.
I have not seen the video just yet but, I'm glad Kbash kept his promised to now talk about some unpoppular franchise in order to get those 30k views at best! Let's GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
The first time this game wanted to force me kill one of the friends of the hero, I turned it off and never played it again xD
Beautiful game n I have not seen one of it's kind for a long time also vigrant profile is another beautiful game I hope they do a remake of that game that was the very 1st soul game ever to come out it's on the play station 1
I know it isn't true but I feel like one my interactions with Kbash in Twitter got him to say "certified hood classic".
I think about "I love Homework" probably 3x a week
1:17 …the VP2 Silmeria Dash?
Gotta finish the 10 runs on Seraphic Gate…
I got the A ending without new game +, it is possible, tough as nails though but a fun challenge. This is the only SRPG that I ever enjoyed and the main reason why was the formations and the action combat from 1 as well as the skill system made the game feel so much more involving and fulfilling than any other SRPG I ever played. The seraphic gate in COTP is the best bonus dungeon ever created, period.
I also like the story, the edginess, the brooding, the slaughter, I live for this stuff.
Sadly Covenant Of The Plume, while an amazing game will always be second to Valkyrie Profile 2 for me because Valkyrie Profile 2 is the best game ever but it's certainly an amazing, underrated game in its own right.
I think Wylfred should have heeded Guiles advice and went home to be a family man... but we can't have that now can we...
vool-kery is all i heard this whole video
Kudos to you for covering covenant of the plume. Not a great game but unique tactical rpg experience especially since it encourages you to sacrifice units for powerful field wide spells. Which if you want the best ending you can’t do that and you have to deal with suicidal guest units that make Tactics Ogre blush. Good luck doing an A ending without new game plus.
I did it... Heck, I did it blind. Just really wanted to show I need no Gods to get Willy boy his revenge. At first I didn't even fill Sin Quota per level... Until I found out that Hel is a nasty manager and you may not use Plume but weekly quota of Sin is a MUST or enjoy her personal hit squad of overleveled ghosts going after you in the next mission.
@@Ghostel3591 same it was BRUTAL AF that i was chugging REVIVES like a crack addict because dying in the final battle was a constant
can we have remaster/remake of this already switch?
I don’t know why they don’t do this.
A 3D remake of this would be absolutely sick.
Got the good ending on my first playthrough, but it was due to abusing Sorceror's that could amp your stats and archer's that could attack from far away. I rarely moved away from my starting position. I just let enemies come to me and jumped them.
I game overed early on and I realized the game wanted me to abuse the systems in place. So I did.
He makes reading off patreon supporters something funny to listen to. This man is a fucking treasure.
Never finished this game cause the overkill sin point thing was annoying and I didn't want to sacrifice anyone lol, but I still enjoyed it way more than VP2 for that same reason you mentioned. It felt like an actual VP game where VP2 didn't.
4:42 for when I need a laugh
KBash: Hope you like Wilfred!
Narrator: Nobody liked Wilfred.
1st game - Great
2nd game - a bit over complicated but good
3rd game - Honestly good but underrated. I need to find my copy
something i really like about wylfred is that hes not supposed to be a hero. the guy's just a stupid teenager who blames his father's death on someone who pretty much had nothing to do with it. his quest for revenge doesnt just hurt him, it hurts the people around him too, and arguably more so. ancel's death, regardless of the route, is the catalyst to wylfred's actions. in A route, between feeling so strongly guilty from killing ancel, and seeing lockswell and cheripha's reconciliation, wylfred cant bring himself to continue using the plume, and spares them. he goes on to meet ushio, another man on a quest of revenge. after rosea and lieselotte die, ushio just feels... nothing. he doesnt feel satisfied, he doesnt feel happy. he realizes his path of vengeance was pointless. wylfred continues abstaining from using the plume, until he tells ailyth that he would rather go to niflheim than continue their contract
alternatively, after ancel's death, he sees it as the point of no return. he's already killed his best friend, there's no turning back now, he thinks. he doesnt want his best friend's death to be in vain, even if deep down he realizes that this is foolish, and ancel would be strongly against it. he chooses to continue pursuing vengeance, and continue killing allies for the plume. ultimately, his vengeance doesnt amount to anything. it was all pointless, it didnt serve to benefit anyone. after failing to complete the contract, he is sent to niflheim. or alternatively, his father is sent there in his stead, once again with his quest for vengeance resulting in nothing but the suffering of those around him.
i think it couldve been executed way better, but there is so much potential here limited by budget and the fact that the game is on a handheld console