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VW B5: Passat Driver Door Lock Module replacement
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Could have a better camera angle to have a better view.
I could be married to a 20 year old... life is tough. Ask questions if you can't see anything or understand something.
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This is exactly how an instructional video should be - thank you. I think this is the first repair I have ever done that went back together with more ease than it came apart. A little hint for anyone else doing it on their own - getting the door catch cable back in place can be tricky. I tied a slip knot to it and threaded the string through the door catch aperture and taped it to the outside of the door. Once the interior panel was back in situ I used the string to locate the cable into its position properly before cutting it off.
Thank you for the kind words & added info!
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Thanks for the tip. Quite helpful.
Simon...I've been wrenching on cars for 45+ years and I have come across a thousand tips and tricks during that time. At first I didn't understand your tip about tying a string to the latch cable. I told myself that when the time comes to do this repair, I'll figure out then what you were talking about. I swapped out the driver's side module last night using Thomas's video as a guide and I saw straight away what you were talking about. Out of the thousand tips and tricks that I've accumulated over the years, this one is in my top five. I just want to make sure I give credit where (and when) credit is due.
@@billmaher4873 no way! I'm very glad you found this useful. Thanks for the credit - much appreciated! Good luck with your car
My 2000 Passat needs new actuators. Because of this video, I feel confident I can replace them myself. Thanks Thomas EXOVCDS!
Thank you for watching!
Thanks Thomas. Great video...awesome work. I did this repair last night in about 45 minutes. Simon Gore's tip about tying a string to the latch cable was brilliant. For those of you coming across this video for the first time, do yourself a big favor and buy a VW module. Yeah, yeah it's more money, but it will be money well spent.
Thank you for watching!
This video helped a lot. Just completed the procedure. Useful tip; make sure to put sealant around the lower half of the inner (metal) door panel. Mine was leaking after the first time I went in to fix the stupid window mechanism. I hope I never have to spend anymore time in there! Thanks for the help.
Thank you for watching!
One thing none of these pieces has mentioned, is how to put the door handle back on, if you removed it. I had a problem with this. There is a spring-loaded flap behind the handle that must be engaged to return the handle when it is released. To engage it, you must pull the handle as far as it will go toward the back of the door while you push the handle in, then push the handle forward to engage the flap. If you don't d this, the handle won't return to its flush position. I didn't do this, and sprung the flap so it wouldn't engage. Had to hook it with wire to pull it out, then engage it. Works fine now. Hope this description is clear.
Thanks for the tip! There are probably a lot of things that I fail to mention in my videos... as I am not making official "DIY / How-To" videos, but I try to answer questions when people ask them. I'm sure that your info will help as well, thanks again!
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***** Glad to help. Can you understand my explanation. It would probably be clearer if you would include it in your video.
mat Gilliam I think I know what you mean... I will try to remember to record an "assembling" video that shows all the steps.
nearly 10 years after thin video was made I'm about to use it. Thanks so much Thomas for making the effort to bring us to work with you and help us git'r done!
Thank you for watching!
Thanks to your videos I’ve now changed three lock modules and replaced a micro switch, something that would have cost a fortune at a dealer, many thanks!
Nice to hear! Thank you for watching!
Thank goodness for your video! The door lock rod popped off while changing the window regulator. I would probably still be out there figuring it out. The driver used to remove the 2 bolts is also the same used to remove the axle bolts on the back of an old beetle. Anyway, thanks again!!
Yes, an M8 Triple square. Thanks for watching!
Subbed. I may never watch another of your videos, but this one single video was the EXACT thing I was looking for. The fact that I can watch it without fast forwarding at all, means a lot. Excellent job.
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I will put them on my Passat GLX 4-Motion Wagon.
Thanks!
Got those stickers Yesterday in the mail! Thanks man I really appreciate them.
I have some pictures of them on my car, I just don't know where to upload them to share =/.Thanks again! The baby picture is awesome. Josh
Thanks for letting me know! I keep forgetting if I mailed stickers, to people that I have told I would mail stickers! LOL
OMG, you are a saint dude.
Drivers door fixed finally. Though my dome lights still won't turn off after I lock the doors with the remote and set alarm. Somebody really f-ed this car up before I bought it.
Also lost power to aftermarket stereo that was installed after replacing the Lock Module......
Jason F With a scan tool you can check if the Comfort control module thinks a door is open (keeping the lights on).
My son and I worked on this most of the day. Followed the steps given here that were helpful, but left gaps when you run into trouble. Like the arm that pops into the inner support was cracked. We just left it off. No pop rivet needed. Then the unit would not seat properly with the outside lock cylinder. We removed it and mounted the new latch. When putting the cylinder back in, the stupid Ring that locks the cylinder back down decided to come off and fall to the bottom of the door. Now the bottom of the door is like something designed from hell. It took me with a tripod with a led light taped to it's camera mount and a hand held mirror and a coat hanger to fish this ring out!! It took over one hour to accomplish this!!
this door is the most over engineered piece of work I have ever worked on!! My old 1971 Type three is much easier to work on and replace parts off of!!
The same job can often not go the same way each time... there is always a possibility for things to go wrong or not as planned. I too have had the ring fall down into the door. Quickest thing to do is to just take the regulator panel off again. I have other videos that are more current that might have better viewing angles / coverage. '70s technology isn't quite the same to compare. The model T Ford would have been easier to work on than the Bug... it's common sense that newer cars will be more complicated. Thanks for watching my video and it's nice to hear that you guys were able to still do the job!
Replaced Passat lock mechanism today and this was a life saver. Major thanks!
Thank you for watching!
This video was just so dam helpful .
I just changed out the same lock module on my Passat. If it were not for your video, it would have a been a bastard but you made it a piece of cake!
Thankyou so much for saving me a lot of grief .
I'm happy to hear that one of my videos was of help to you! Thank you for watching! Merry Christmas & a happy new year to you & yours!
And to you dude!
Thanks for the help Thomas ! Your video made this job a breeze for me. I appreciate the time you took to make this. Thanks again!
Nice to hear that my video was of help and that everything went well! Thank you for watching!
Your video was a massive help thanks for taking time to post. I would have definitely broken my window without your tip to mark the window bolts. I've replaced both rear lock modules but never a front one. The rear ones are a pain with the plastic dowl window retainer. Tip for anyone doing a rear lock,, soak the plastic window retainer dowl in WD-40 its much easier to remove it then.
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Thanks for the video. I followed along and swapped out my lock module with no complications.
You're welcome... thank you for watching! I'm glad to hear that my video was of help! =)
I could not have done this repair without this video! Amazing! Thanks.
Thank you... that's nice to hear! Thank you for watching!
excellent ! thank you for the very straight forward video that is all work & testing, no bs or wasted seconds !! I will now have a much easier time at the junk yard to grab an inner door panel to replace the one that I destroyed :)
Thank you for watching!
P.S. I was a VW, AUDI tech for a few years before moving to the job I'm in now.. Truly miss it and wish I got to the level you are at...
I'm nowhere near where I should be... but thanks!
Hey great video. I noticed you had a little trouble unplugging the puddle lamp. I found if you prise the lamp down out of the door panel before removing, the connector is really easy to get at.
Ian Thanks for the tip!
Thanks for a good video. Glad to see you are not the only one having problems opening those VW electrical connectors. The guy who designed them should be slapped with a cold fish.
Thank you for watching!
I just bought an 04 Passat wagon and this is exactly what it's doing. Thanks!
Until I get this fixed, the only way I can lock the car when I leave is to get out, close the front driver door, open the back passenger door and reach up to the front and manually push down the button. Then I close the back door.
@@onepcwhiz no key slot in the door handle? Should pull down when turning key. If not, then the key cylinder rod is broken.
@@EXOVCDS Okay I just checked it and it DOES lock and unlock using the key in the door. I still need to get this fixed but at least I don't have to open the back door each time. Can you give me an estimate on the parts and labor for the repair you did in this video? I'll go somewhere local (Raleigh/Durham, NC area) but I'm curious as to how much it will be. Thanks again.
Thanks for the update!
@@EXOVCDS My 2003 Passat puddle light or dome light does not come on for the front passenger door AND car will lock with passenger door staying open past 30 seconds.
Same deal inside the passenger door as in this video?
Thanks for the reply.
Thomas, today I R&R'd the module after watching your video a few times and I now have a Passat that works as it should. The locks works as they should, the courtesy lights come on when opening the doors, and it will warn you if you have left the lights on when removing the key. Thank you for the video, I would not have been able to do that without it.
I did have some trouble when pop riveting the plastic bracket onto the module, as I only had a few to choose from. It would be useful if you could include the size and type of rivet used. It deformed the plastic a bit, but was still somewhat secure. I didn't have an aluminum rivet the approximate diameter so I had to use a steel one which was probably the wrong type.
Thank you again.
Uh, so why don't you tell us the rivet size?
LeRay Hinchman Luster Bluster A Zip-Tie also works well... some people don't secure the latch back to the panel. Instead, they fasten the latch to the door first and then attach the panel to the door... never using the plastic bracket.
Eggsellent video. A wow for professionalism. Keep up the good work.
+Cee DeeZY Thank you for watching & taking the time to comment!
Thomas EXOVCDS hi did u think The door module interferes with the car not wanting to turn on ( 00 vw Passat 1.8t ) thanks
Hi Thomas. Nice work as always. As you may know, most of the door stuff I've worked on has been GM's and Fords where the window regulators are a breeze to change. I can remember the first time on that VR6 that when I pulled the driver door panel off, I said to myself, what a monstrosity of stuff in there and how in the world is all that stuff going to come out of there. I noticed that you reused the black pegs that were securing the door module bracket to the inner door panel. I always thought that you had to buy a new bracket which gave you the new pegs. Learn something all the time. Thanks Thomas for sharing your knowledge and experience.
I had a Jetta recently where the black plastic mounting piece was missing... the lock module can be installed without it, but the bracket helps with the installation / alignment.
Sometimes you have to do what you have to do to get things back together... even if it doesn't look pretty. There are a lot of repairs that I don't film & post... too many questions would probably arise, which I don't have time for (at this stage of my RUclips career) while still having a day job.
Hi great vid just changed my drivers door window (uk) regulator panel out no problem but the latch pin/rod ( don't know the correct name for it ) fell off and l couldn't for the life if me guess how to re attach it to the lock mechanism? so left it off. Can see it in your vid but can't quite make out how its attached ? and can you put this rod back on without taking off the inner regulator panel?
Thats my question Lol
Thanks,
Top video, helped a great deal in sorting my Passat today. Thanks for your work !
biffadog2 Thank you for watching.
Gros merci! Grâce à toi j'ai résolu mon problème sur mon Passat 2005. Thanks!
Marian Nistorescu You're welcome... thank you for watching and taking the time to comment.
Thanks for the great tutorial
Thank you for watching!
Thanks for the video. Changed mine out today, now remote locks the door as it should.
Art Moore Thanks for watching & taking the time to comment... good to hear that all went well!
Thank you Thomas.
Thank you for watching!
Thanks!! As with electronics, I can easily repair most everthing vintage, but the new equipment is not made to keep very long. With this vw built so complicated, most will dump it and get something simpler.
The Passat was / is a "luxury car"... lots of people buy them once they are 5 or more years old (when they are cheaper to buy). Luxury cars are built different than lower class cars. VW keeps things similar in design between models... appearance may differ though. Knowing what one can own & maintain is always difficult. Luxury would suggests nothing should / could go wrong fro quite some time... but luxury also suggests more time & money when repairs surface. All manufacturers over engineer things these days... use too many electronic devices, too many plastic parts, require special tools etc etc. I drive a 28 year old car for a reason. =)
It happened on my both driver and left rear door in different times. Passat 03. I used rublicator (DW40). I just applied down the bottom. It fix my problem
+Sidika Colakoglu Thanks for sharing the tip!
This helped alot! Thanks!
Thank you for watching!
When removing the cable from the courtesy light at 5:31, I found I could just push the whole courtesy light assembly out of the bottom of the door, then the plug was easy to remove.
Good tip, thank you!
Hi @thomas brilliant video step-by-step guide, and informative commentary! I'm having a multitude of electrical / locking issues with my Passat B5.5 - would you be able to hear me out and offer your thoughts?
Fill me in.
@@EXOVCDS ok - when i got the car the CCM was missing, it lets water into the footwells as does most Passats so i figure the CCM got damaged and removed. as a result of no CCM, there was no locks / windows / e.mirrors / int lights / boot release / fuel flap AND when opening the NSR door / boot / bonnet the alarm goes off.. fitting a CCM has obtained interior lights and fuel flap but windows and locks and boot release and e/mirrors are all still inop (the switches are dead, don't even light up). plugged into VCDS and can't communicate with the module. HELP it's driving me insane.
P.S i recently replaced the battery due to cold weather killing the previous one, since that my trip computer resets everytime i leave the car for approx an hour, so can't monitor things like avg MPG (both displays show the same, 0.00 when started and they mirror eachother throughout.. the "overall" resets if that makes sense.
There's probably wiring damage / corrosion somewhere... if fuses (powers & grounds) are ok. A good wiring diagram, test light and some patience should help sort things out. The CCM also needs to have the correct coding to match the car. Incorrect coding does not prevent communication, so focus on powers & grounds and a good visual inspection.
got her done. thanks for the video!
Thank you for watching!
I have an 03 Passat. Every door except the driver's door will unlock / lock with the remote. would that be a problem with the driver's door lock module?
Yes, most likely.
Great video, Thomas.
Thank you... thank you for watching!
Hi boss, all of a sudden my doors stopped open and close with the key button and I can do it from the central door buttons and manually. Also, the windows don't open. Is it the same problem as in the video or its something else? Cheers
Year, make, model?
Thanks for the video. On my '05 Passat, the rear door locks (2) have to be opened and locked by hand, the remote fob has no effect. Are these independent, or are they operated by a central module, and if so, where is it located? Thanks.
In Canada / USA... if the vehicle is equipped with central locking, then all doors should work with the remote fob or the button inside the car (driver door). In some countries... only the front doors will work with central locking / remote fob and the rear doors are manual.
Great tutorial! Thanks!
Dustin Day Thanks for watching!
if i change the door lock modul with one used ,, i have to reprograming again ?
Ideas if the two window bolt heads are stripped? How does someone loosen those out without damaging the glass?
As always, wonderful videos!
The ones at 8:27 ... the 10mm head bolts? The head is stripped or the threads of the bolts? You can buy a bolt extractor socket set and use one of the sockets to bit the outside of the bolt head:
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@@EXOVCDS you are correct, it is the 10mm torx screw. I have a small extractor set, but I don't have a 11 or 12 mm extractor. The 10mm extractor doesn't get around the circular flange and 13mm is too big. I am not sure if the extractor can grip the smooth circular flange though. Thoughts?
@@nforbes1991 In the video, I was dealing with 10mm hex head bolts... the Torx head bolts don't have a lit to bit into. I would drill into the torx head and then use a tapered
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extractor to try and break the bolt loose (or drill the head right off and deal with the remaining pieces on a bench after removing the complete regulator panel).
caméra moves rapidly great vidéo
My new videos are better... camera is attached to head... head moves... camera moves. Don't think about it (camera moving)... think about what is happening in the video and you will be fine.
Great video!! Quick question... 04 Passat B5: Driver door won't lock manually or with key fob. Also, door does not always shut, "bounces" back open. Try 10-20 times before it finally takes. Could these symptoms all point to problems with the door lock module?
+Dan Berding Yes, it could... it's a good place to start checking. With the door open, you should be able to close the locking latch with the tip of a screwdriver. If it does not stay latched, I would remove the lock module and try to latch it outside of the door. If it functions normally when not connected to the wiring harness, then something "electrically" is keeping it from latching (which shouldn't be the case, but you never know).
+Thomas EXOVCDS
Thanks Thomas. Yes, no problem with physical latch, can easily shut with fingertip. The fact that it won't lock is puzzling. Cannot physically push it down. Will keep toying with it.
What is the part number for this part? I have the same problem.... with the same car...
Most parts places allow for a "keyword" search... like door latch.
www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen-Passat_B5-4_Motion-1.8T/Search/SiteSearch/door_latch/
nice very nice low key!
Thank you for watching!
Thanks again for the help.
One other thing. I did end up buying an aftermarket unit here: www.ebay.com/itm/Front-Door-Lock-Actuator-Latch-Driver-Left-LH-for-Jetta-Passat-Golf-Beetle-GTI-/310748140898?hash=item485a085562&vxp=mtr
The part looked well made and has a 10 year warranty. After receiving it, I was impressed by the quality, as it looks just like the photo and also looks like the OEM module. I took a chance, and will let you know if I have any problems, but my guess is that it will work okay. This will be a test case.
LeRay Hinchman Thanks for the update & link! Good to hear things went well! A small zip tie to hold the plastic together would have been enough as well. Some people don't mount the module back on the panel... they mount the module in the door and then install the panel. Whatever works is fine. :)
Great detail. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for watching!
If the actuator fails, does it affect side mirror and window from functioning? All three Windows works fine from their controller. Thanks for your help!
The lock actuator is just an input/output for the driver door module (part of the window motor)... if the control switch in the driver door is OK, then yes, maybe the window motor / module is bad. Using a scan tool, you can check for fault codes in the central convenience module... as well as check if it receives signals from the driver control buttons.
+Thomas EXOVCDS only driver door lock don't work on remote and on the door switch , side mirrors both heat and changing angle, and both central locking and window don't open too. Could be Ccm?
All three went off at the same time.
+Mike Mercado Check if CCM is receiving signals from switches.
Hi Thomas do you have any videos for interior lights and door light issue my passat when I open the door the light won't work but if I open the passengers side they work but sometimes
Door lock actuators are common item to cause dome light issues. I'm at work... if you need wiring diagrams, I can look for one once I get home tonight.
this should be about the same idea as the mk4 golf right ? my module sometimes thinks the door is opened or closed I can't lock it or the alarm goes off then sometimes it works normal locks after the 30 seconds then it acts up and alarm goes off again lmao.
Yes... here's the A4 / mk4 version (older video... sorry about the noise & watermark):
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Thank you for the awesome video.
+MyI MPlace Thank you for watching!
all doors lock and unlock apart from my drivers side door I turn the key and all unlocks except for the drivers door it tries to open but then my windows wind down and after 2 more attempts it finally opens. what do you think the problem might be. I have a vw passat 97 R reg, any help would be appreciated
P.S. you videos are really informative and helpful thanks
Most likely the door lock module itself. When you hold the key in the unlock for longer than 2 seconds, the courtesy feature rolls all windows down (this is normal... to vent out hot air on a hot day). Hold in the lock position and the windows go back up.This tells me that the micro switch is OK (recognizes that the key is in the unlock position), but the electric motor is not moving the unlock pin. The lock assembly / lock actuator is the issue. Replacing it should get things working again. To be sure, remove it and check it out of the vehicle... sometimes things just need a bit of lubricating to get things moving. Water intrusion can corrode the inside of the actuator assembly causing drag when the motor wants to turn.
Thanks for your quick reply, I will try the things you suggested and let you know the outcome. I really appriciate the help, keep up the good work 👍
OMG... thats insane... it would be easier to replace the entire door!
+Joe Gray DIY isn't for everyone.
Thomas EXOVCDS. I do alot of dyi... and I'm very mechanically inclined... I do most of the work on my own cars and I was an aircraft mechanic for the Air Force for 5 years... maybe I'm just fed up with all the things with this car I've had to do back to back ever since I got it 2 months ago and all the money it's sucked up... maybe I just want to be done with it...lol! yeah... I could do all of the stuff in this video... but my point is vw made this far too difficult... the same job on my Pontiac g6 was like a 20 min job.
Joe Gray I'm sure there are things that Pontiac does that can be done easier on the VW. All manufacturers / cars have design flaws. These door lock actuators are simple to replace (granted, I've done a few). Yes, there are things that I don't like about VW's & Audi's... but like I said, all manufacturers have issues. The B5 Passat platform is 10 to 15 years old... things will need changing. You can pick these cars up for cheap and it'll run well if looked after.
Joe Gray - Or replace the whole car! You are right - crazy what you have to go through. Great video though
Not sure whom you are replying to.
I figured you would have an answer for me but.... I bought a MK4 Golf and have 2 keys that came with. One to open the door the other to start, open hatch. I was wonder if you knew where I can get tumblers to match the stock key so I only have to car one around? I just programed my remote with my VAG tool but would like to not have to carry 2 keys.
Most lock smith's (that also deal with car keys) will be able to code lock cylinders to match a key.
If I recall correctly, the ignition cylinder can not be recoded. The driver door cylinder can be taken apart and coded. I have never had to take a trunk cylinder apart, but suspect that it can be coded as well.
Yeah. I never had to but it seems like it would be an easy fix if I could find the correct tumblers. Thanks for the fast reply
+Thomas EXOVCDS As far as I know, the immobilizer in the car can't be recoded for a different, already programmed (IMMOBILIZER) key chip. But new immobilizer chips can be programmed as long as you have the cluster/ecu/immo SKC PIN code available. Aquiring that though, can ble quite a hassle. The FOB/Remote part of the keys, can be matched to the car with VCDS / VAG-COM and other tools - without the need for SKC PIN. If you ever need an automotive locksmith to program keys to the immobilizer (not a VAG workshop), they are likely going to have to extract this code. Ask that they note it down for you in case of future issues.
snaremj: If you didn't have an automotive locksmith recode the lock to match the keyblade yet - and I understand correctly, that you matched the FOB of the "door-only-key" with the car... then I suggest you ask them to cut a new blade for that key (and program a new immobilizer chip if neccessary). Having only one working key is quite the risk.
Very nice...
I need help with it: when I try to lock the car all doors locked except driver door who lock and unlock itself, only way to lock all 4 doors is first on remote lock then with key lock ???
Where can be the problem ?
Dejan Markovski Hi, Sorry about the late reply. You need to check all the door lock module signals with a scan tool. It could be a wiring issue, a solder joint issue or a microswitch issue. Has that door lock module / lock assembly been replaced?
***** I don't know since I buy before two years ago as used car, when I buy when I lock it with remote or with a key the red light indicator in the driver door never flash but the doors was locked and now all locked except driver who lock and unlock it self instantly.
Scan tool will find the problem ?
Thanks for help and sorry for my bad english...
Dejan Markovski Scan tool will not find the problem... but it can "help" in finding the problem.
Thank you once again!
Key turns 360 Is this the lock cylinder or the actuator unit problem ?
Pause at 7:36 the "paddle" looking thing at the end of the key cylinder is broken.
Whats the plstic screw's call on minute 12.48. And what did u use to take them aut. Whats the toll call that u were hitting with a hamer?
Those are small "plastic wedges"... you can knock them out with a "pin punch" and a "hammer" (just like I did in the video). If you don't have the little plastic wedges, you can use a zip strap through the holes to hold the plastic bracket in place and then cover the strap with duct tape.
My inside door handle keeps slipping (looses tension) when I try to open from inside (outside works fine). Works for few times then looses all tension again. This happened after I replaced window regulator. Is there way to anchor the inner door cable so it won't loose/stretch from opening door from inside? I was thinking of advancing inner door cable further behind regulator panel then taping it down?
The cable should sit / clip tight against the back of the release handle. If the retaining clips are broken, the cable will sleeve will pop out. Use a small tie strap to hold it against the back of the handle. Send me pictures so I can see the parts. fkh161 at fkh161 dot ca (my email).
@@EXOVCDS I can't thank you enough. Once I snapped retaining clip back in place everything works perfectly. I literally spent year unlocking from inside by lowering window and reaching my hand to outside handle to open. Your awesome.
@@carlhammill5774 Thank you for the update and thank you for watching!
Hey, thanks a alot for these videos, they are very helpful and have saved me alot of money. Keep filming your job! :)
I have the same kind of problem with my drivers door. My footlight only shines when the door is nearly fully closed. The warning for headlights on and door open also only signals in this position. And if I unlock and only open the driver door, the car locks itself again after 30 seconds, even if the door is still open. Haven't fixed it yet because the central locking of every door still works, but do you think it is the same part you switched in the video? Thanks again!
Sounds like it has the same issue... you can first check the wiring in the door jam to make sure that the problem isn't there.
Also on the rear doors when you take the metal panel off does the model come out with the panel too like the front?
Rear is similar... but there's a rail that needs to be removed (IIRC).
Awesome video
+Mike Mercado Thank you for watching!
I have problem, with key is opening just driver door, but with central is open all doors but the driver door sound like is opening twice not like the video, and when i open the driver door interior light not work.. Is lock module problem or something else ?? and i have problem with driver window it does not opening.. (sorry for my bad english)
+Daniel Penov What year & model vehicle? Power window? The power window motor / module is what controls the driver door lock actuator. So the 2 problems could be related. Check for broken wires in the door jam... open the door and peel back the accordion boot and look for broken wires. If you have broken wires, repair those and recheck the window & door lock function. If no broken wires, remove the door panel & check the connections at the window motor & door lock actuator. Voltage tests (power & ground) can also be done at that time.
Awesome job, am having VK passa v6 2004 model. Since last few weeks driver door is too hard to lock and unlock and now its not even locking or unlocking. the key female part was strucked and key is not rotating to neither locking nor unlocking. What should I do now> P;ease help me out of this problem sir.
Remove the key cylinder and try to lock & unlock with a screwdriver... similar to what I did in this video (Jetta): ruclips.net/video/nfTzorcWrts/видео.html If it does not work with a screwdriver, then the lock module might be bad. If the key turns the key cylinder while the key cylinder is out of the door, then the lock module was preventing the key from turning.
Thomas EXOVCDS how much would it costs for key cylinder or lock module?
Ashok naidu bungatavula Did you already remove the cylinder and check with a screwdriver? Don't worry about the cost of the parts until you know which part you need. It might not even be one of those parts that is the problem.
Do you have to buy the module from VW in order to get it to communicate with the keyfob? Thanks for the video, very helpful.
The door lock actuator does not communicate with the key fob. The comfort control module communicates with the fob.
@@EXOVCDS Ah, I was wondering about that. The remote key is unable to unlock the other doors. Is that still controlled by the driver side locking module or by the comfort control module?
What is the size of the 3-square tool? I'm sure this is the problem too with my door.
+Mike Mercado At 7:57 ? It's an M8 triple square or #8 as mentioned in the video. A 6mm allen will fit but might slip.
I changed my passat's driver's door today and now when trying to lock the door it automatically unlocks both left side doors. Do you think that also might be the problem with mechanism? Shall I just install the old one? used to be good
You changed the whole door? You need to check / compare the wires in the wiring harness that comes out of the door, to see if all the wires are the same & in the correct location. It could be that the door is from a Passat that has slightly different configurations.
@@EXOVCDS I changed the whole wires, put my old ones thats because one plug from under the hood openner was different, thats probably because i have all electric windows and the new doors were with only front ones. The thing is I cant even lock it manually. Will try to change the lock mechanism today as you did in this video. Awesome video by the way, never seen a better tutorial, honestly
The car doesn't like something that is in the door... the door module / window regulator module may need to be coded differently. Attach the old module and compare the "coding" of the module.
@@EXOVCDS so what do you think if I remove the window regulator module will the small cable roled inside it stay together?
@@Edis1990 Yes, the motor can be removed from the regulator panel and the cable will / should stay in place. Remove the 3 torx bolts that secure the motor to the regulator panel and gently wiggle the motor off... then install the old motor.
Ill try that thanks
I purchased a new lock actuator (lock module as shown in this video). However after I hooked everything up the car won't start and the remote fob doesn't work. I am assuming programming shouldn't be necessary since the video doesn't mention that. I am wondering if the car anti-theft mechanism is active? When I put the key in the ignition and turn it there is no sound at all however headlights and other systems work fine. I tried to jump start it in case I ran the battery down while I was working on the car.
The lock actuator that I purchased is a brand new VW part I bought from the parts dept today. When I use the key in the lock it does lock/unlock the car. I don't see the alarm on indicator light in the door.
Ideas?
A faulty door lock actuator or the act of replacing one... can not / should not have anything to do with preventing the vehicle from starting / not cranking. If this is a B5 Passat, check the Comfort Control Module (under the driver carpet) for water damage... a wet / faulty CCM can cause starting / no crank issues. Do a full system scan (scan all the modules in the car) to see if there are any fault codes. If the car was running before the lock module re & re, then it should run now. I don't disconnect the car battery when replacing them... coding should not be needed either, since the "brains" is part of the power window motor (Door Control Module).
Thanks for the speedy reply. I was also thinking it should not have caused it. I did read somewhere else that someone mentioned they had a blown fuse after doing the work so I'll check that tomorrow. In the post I saw, they said that the lock worked but the fuse was blown causing the car not to start and some other things related to the lock. I'll check the fuse tomorrow. I'll update here either way but I am hoping it is something as simple as that.
Check fuses #6, #14, #38 (Left side of dash)
Yeah, I couldn't wait anymore so I went out and checked fuse 6 and 14 and 14 was blown. I replaced it (10amp) and wouldn't know you it. Car starts, interior lights work and fob works! Thanks. Your video really helped me get this replaced. While the lock actuator wasn't cheap, I at least saved on labor.
Great video and very helpful. Thanks for posting. I now have the same problem with my old 02 Passat and grabbed a module from another car at a pick your part place. I would have liked to see how you got the module hooked back up to the door handle though. Also, did you not have to reconfigure the new module so that the remote keys would work?
The door lock module / actuator is just an output / input device. The Comfort Control Module is what operates the door locks / receives a signal from the remote or key on the door.
@@EXOVCDS Thank you very much for your response. I am wondering if I need to change the comfort module as well. The other 3 door locks stopped responding to my remote key when I try to double click on it to open them.
Do they work with the button inside?
@@EXOVCDS Hmm, after further investigation: The passenger door inside lock/unlock button works fine. Also both the driver door inside lock/unlock button and the remote key can lock the doors but neither the remote key or the driver side lock/unlock button can unlock the doors. The remote key cannot lock the driver side door. The locking/unlocking sounds all work fine though.
@@EXOVCDS Oh, wow, now all of a sudden both the buttons and remote key works fine for locking/unlocking all doors. I guess the issue is intermittent. The driver side door still won't lock using the remote key but it will unlock. This issue was intermittent also for a while before it just stopped working.
At @16:17 you're drilling away something and later you're using a tool to re-fit it. Can this be done without special tools? My driver seat door is not locking with key fob press, only manually. all other doors work fine. THanks anyways for the tutorial :)!
You'll need a drill to remove the rivet. You can use a plastic zip tie instead of a rivet to hold things together when you are reassembling.
@@EXOVCDS I will try it when I get the module in the post. Thanks, this will be saving me a few hundred USD, which is appreciated a lot!
@@mikal_1 OK, let me know how it all went after you get it all back together.
@@EXOVCDS The two bolts that hold the locking module was completetly eroded shut, couldnt for the life of me get them loose. So I did nothing further about the door issue. But now my door locking module is breaking down (car door not even locking when i turn the key manually) so I have to change it. Fuck.
@@mikal_1 if the key feels easy / loose to turn, then the actuator rod is broken. Remove the key cylinder and replace the rod / key cylinder kit.
Wast that a spacer that you mounted with the rivet putting the bracket back on?
You have to drill out the old rivet in order to move the bracket to the new lock module / actuator... so yes, a new rivet was installed. You can use a small zip-tie / tie-strap to hold the bracket to the lock module / actuator. Some people don't reuse the bracket... but I like to mount the assembly back against the regulator panel with the bracket.
Yanno that doesn't look too terribly bad to replace. I guess you just have to have patience. Hopefully I'll never have to do it in my MKV, but I'll probably give it a whirl if it fails. Btw we can totally see your mug in the reflection of the door at the end of the video, lol. I know in the past you've blurred that out.
It was more of a fun factor to do in the past... will still do it when the mug is too clear.
On the mk5 the outer door panel comes off, which makes changing components easier... no removal of window regulator required.
***** you always inspire me in my work.thank you.
vikash subhadu Thank you! All my viewers need to make sure though, that they point out my mistakes that I make, bad habits or shortcuts that I could have taken... there's always more than one way to do a repair!
What If I can't roll the window down because the window part has failed. How do I replace it?
Remove the motor from the door panel, the you can (should be able to) force the window down... if that does not work, drill out the regulator mounting bolts, move the panel forward and cut the regulator cables:
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Hallo Thomas coole videos...Kannst du mir eine frage beantworten?Bei meinem Passat ist der Bowdenzug von der innen Entriegelung gerissen.Muss ich dafür auch den ganzen Alu Aggregateträger ausbauen...Grüsse aus Germany NRW
+tobias finke Guten morgen... baujahr B5? Leider ja, den das kabel am schloss befestigt ist. Entschuldige meine rechtschreibfehler.
I have a question kind of related to this.
My key fob doesn’t work so keep that in mind. I locked my drivers side door tonight, and a bit later I went to get in it and drive it, I used the actual key to unlock the drivers side door. The door unlocks but when I press the unlock
Button on the inside of the door nothing happens, (won’t lock or unlock any other doors) and when I put the key in the ignition and turn it to on, the alarm starts going off for about a minute or maybe a bit less then it stops. The car will start but the alarm stays on. Any ideas? It’s happened before and I just got out shut the door and locked and unlocked it with the key then I got in and it was fine. But now this is happening. I get up early for work and I can’t have my alarm continuously going off.
Also it’s a 2000 Passat glx with the v6 5 speed manual
When you unlock the car & open the door, the car still thinks that the door is closed... that's why the alarm turns on when you start the car (the car doesn't know that someone entered). If the wiring in the door jam is ok, it's most likely a faulty door lock module. If you also have problems with power windows, check for wetness under the carpet in front of the driver seat... the comfort control module is located there.
@@EXOVCDS thank you SO much for the quick reply. I’ll check that out in the am, don’t wanna set the alarm off as it’s getting late. No issues with power windows or anything else, just the alarm going off. So most likely a door lock module?
@@EXOVCDS love your videos by the way, they’re my go to for any vw repair.
@@potatoclipzgaming4008 most likely the door lock module / latch assembly... I use a scan tool to check door open / closed status... as well as locked / unlocked status. If you don't have a scan tool with which to check these conditions... find someone who does, or take a chance with a new module / latch assembly.
@@EXOVCDS yeah I seem to have bad luck when I assume I know what the problem is and throw parts at it, but I also don’t really have access to a vagcom. Ok well I appreciate the help, especially so fast!
Thomas, should or do I need to set the preload on the spring for the door?
Manual says to hook the spring on the latch lever... is that what you mean? If the outside door handle cable is attached too tight, then the latch might not unlock the next time the door is closed. Always try the handle & latch with the door open (latch the latch and pull on the inside & outside door handles to make sure that they open the latch).
I have a 2004 passat and the driver door does not lock with keyfob, or the button in the door. The 3 others do as normal. Security light starts blinking which lead me to believe that the car think it is locked. If i open the door, the alarm sounds. If i lock it with the key then everything is normal. So my door lock module does not lock the door electrically. I replaced the door lock module but still not working. Pin 1 and 2 on the doorlock module is the lock unlock pins, they receive no power when keyfob is pressed. Tracing the wires back i end up in a module attached to the window motor. Not sure how the system works entirely, but if im correct the ccm under the floor on the drivers side receives a signal when keyfob is pressed and then sends directions to the window motor module on can H and Can L and then the window motor module sends power to lock or unlock pins on the door lock module. But this does not happen. I hooked up a hantek scope on the can wires, and there is activitity on both wires, when i press the keyfob the signal spikes on both scope channels. One for H can and one for L can. I have continuity checked every wire from end to end and they check out fine. So far I believe the window motor module is at fault, but unsure how I can confirm it.
Another problem i have is that the power mirror controls operate rh mirror no matter if the selector is switched to lh mirror or rh mirror, i can not control the lh mirror in any setting. Not sure if this is just the switch, but I ordered a new one to test. But after ordering I was poking around in vcds and found a measuring block showing the status of the mirror switch and it changes state from left to right, but still only operating rh mirror, even if status is lh mirror. Still boggling my mind on that one.
Do you have any pointers for me on these issues. Would be much appreciated
Robert
95tt Yes, CCM sends signals to window/door modules after receiving signal from fob. Driver window/door module is master module. Other window/door modules are slave modules.
Are you sure the correct driver door lock module was installed? I can't explain the mirror switch issue. A capacitive discharge can sometimes clear weird electrical issues.
Thomas EXOVCDS it had the same partnumber as my old door lock module. I believe the only thing wrong with my old module was a microswitch for the light under the door, because i tested the motor by applying power on pin1 and ground on pin 2 and reversed it, and then it locked and unlocked both the old and my new module. My door module never sends power on these 2 wires wich explains why the door is not locking unlocking with fob. But is it the door module faulty and not sending power to the lock module or not receiving signal from ccm to do so. But you say the driver door module is master, does that mean it does get the signal since all other doors lock and unlock?
The 21 people that disliked this own Toyotas.
Probably. LOL
Hey Thomas, I'm having a similar issue... 01 Jetta 1.8T. Currently my drivers door will not lock or unlock with the remote fob, only key. I also cannot control any unlocking/locking, window up:Down motion from the drivers control module, funny thing, there is a black connection underneath dead peddle, when I disconnected/connect it will allow me to roll up/down just the driver door window about 5x until it goes back to not working anymore... Could you possibly point me to a few things? Early symptoms include; When I would roll the window up/down during the summer sometimes the window on drivers side would quit for for a few mins. Thanks!! Please let me kno
Does the driver window roll down / up if you hold the key in the lock / unlock position of the outside door handle?
The power window motor has a circuit board that is mounted to it... it is the brains of the window & door lock actuator. If you do not find any faulty wiring or switches, you might have a bad power window module. Disconnect the harness plug from the window motor and check for corroded pins / connections.
+Thomas EXOVCDS When I insert the key into the outside door handle to roll down/up the windows, it does not operate. When I lock/unlock the car with the key fob, it locks/unlocks all doors except for drivers, I have to insert key into driver's door and turn it clockwise (hold) to hold the door or else the lock pin will pop up to unlock again. Also a thing I discovered is when I disconnect the power black harness under the dead peddle, I can roll up/down windows BUT can't operate any other window in the car from the driver's side. Please help
+Andre Cordeiro the best I can do is send you a wiring diagram... which you can use to identify the black connector & wiring etc. I'll be home later today to find a diagram for you. I'll send you a link once I have it uploaded to my site.
+Andre Cordeiro email sent.
That is an excellent video and I need to change this module because of the doors will lock after 30 seconds after unlocking. I am curious about the new module that you used as they are available on a well known auction site one for $30 from China and another for $125 in US. They look the same and perhaps the ones that are in the US are actually the same ones direct from China. Any thoughts about that?
Also, there were parts of the video that the camera did not fully show what you were doing especially removing the module and linkages from the module. It may be obvious when I attempt it, but for a novice like me it might be helpful to see it fully. Regardless, it is well done after getting the replacement module.
Thank you for a great video. You work fast.
LeRay Hinchman Yes, sorry about the camera angles... I should tilt my head more since the camera can't follow my eyes (I have been doing a better job of that in my newer videos... as best I can). Cheaper isn't always better. Buying from a VW specific Parts Store can ensure that you get a correct fitting unit that is of a suitable price (less than dealer cost but more than the cheap stuff that might not fit or last long). A couple of VW specific vendors:
www.germanautoparts.com/ and shopdap.com/
Thanks for watching & taking the time to comment!
***** Thank you for the links. The reason that I was considering getting the cheaper ones is that many if not most of these products are made in China. I will take your advice, but it would be interesting to find out if they are the same part.
Just adjusting the camera slightly would help.Thank you again for the video.
LeRay Hinchman One other thing. Is the warning for leaving the headlights on when closing the door linked to this module, because that is another issue that I am having?
LeRay Hinchman Yes, the "car" doesn't know that the door was opened... so it never triggers the headlight reminder / buzzer.
***** Thank you Thomas.
Good video BTW!
Thank you... and thank you for watching!
thanks
Hi can i asked you a question please not as related wit this video but i have a problem with the rear dome lights when i opened the rear doors it doesn't goes on, I've checked the selector switch it self and removed to see if there is 12v supply and there was. The problem is on the both rear dome lights. What do you think is this problem?. Thank you and appreciate if replying me.
vduB vw I'm about to start work... will have more time tonight to look into this (wiring diagram etc). What year & model?
Thanks for reply... year is 2003 and model b5.5
vduB vw If you have power, then the ground is missing. Open the doors and peel back the accordion boots... have a look for broken wires. If the wires are ok, disconnect the 2 connectors where the wires enter the body. Look for corrosion. That's all I can suggest, sorry. I'm sure you already tested the bulbs, that's why I didn't mention it.. oops, just did.
Ok thank you for your help.
Thank you good job!!!
+Yuri Gusev Thank you for watching & taking the time to comment!
Now the car rolls down windows when you lock it, then unlock it and open the door
Lock with key or fob button?
Window roll down only happens when key is held in unlock position.
How much will u charge to come to houston tx i have the same problem and dont have the tools for it
LOL... my vacation / travel time is already spoken for, sorry.
Thomas EXOVCDS ill pay extra and ill buy the part
Thomas, is it possible to replace the module with a used one? will it work as plug and play? i mean no VAG tuning or alteration?
Thank you!!!!
Should not be a problem.
***** Thanks for the fast response!!! have you tried installing a used module before? im just wondering because im in the middle of replacing my module on my jetta right now.. im thinking of just buying a used module to save a little bit of money dealership is asking too much money for a brand new module...
Thank you !!!!
enricoanton Door lock actuator / module is just an input / output device for the Door Lock Control Module (part of the power window motor). You can take a golf lock actuator and mount it in a jetta or Passat (I was told that they fit). Just make sure that the lock actuator has the same amount of pins in the harness plug connector as the original.
***** Thank you very much Thomas appreciate the help!!!! Happy Holidays!!!
enricoanton All the best to you and yours as well! Let me know how things work out.
If you dont mind answering a question or two, but my front passenger side door will only open from the inside. Ive been told its my lock unit, what do you think it could be? After numerous garages took off my drivers side front door to find a short(now fixed), now the door will not lock at all, could something have gotten loose or broken off?
Year, make, model?
Its a 2002 vw passat glx
projectsalvo123 Remove the door cylinder / plug and check if the release cable is attached to the door handle. If it is, it might just need repositioning. If it is not, attach it. If it is broken, replace it.
If repositioning does not help, remove the lock module and check operation on a bench / out of the vehicle.
Also what about the drivers side front door not locking? when i try to push the lock down, there is a lot of resistance and will not go down unless i sit there and play with it.
projectsalvo123 Not sure... I use the scan tool to check the "status" of the doors. Door open / closed and locked & unlocked. If the scan data shows everything is ok, then I look for a mechanical fault. If the scan data shows something is not where it should be (door is open even though door is closed), then I look for an electrical or mechanical issue. 90% of the time, the lock module will be at fault and replacement is the quickest repair. If you google search vw door lock actuators / lock modules, you can find DIY write-ups that explain / show how to check / test & repair.
on my '98 passat, to lock the doors i must lock the trunk..if i try to lock it from the driver side it doesn't do anything..can you help me?:/
You mean with the key in the door? Probably a bad micro switch in the door actuator. Can you unlock the car from that side? Hold the key in the unlock position for 5 seconds (all windows should go down). If yes, hold the key in the lock position for 5 seconds... all windows should go UP. Yes?
Thomas EXOVCDS ... the car dosen't lock/unlock from the driver side.from the passager side its lock/unlock only the front dors.if i whant to lock/unlock the 4 dors i do it from the trunk.is the only way to lock/unlock my car :/ that thing with 5 second and the windows will go down doesen't work.but it works if i try it from the trunk :))
gabi gabitzu Either the micro switches in the door actuators / modules are bad or the wiring at the comfort control module (under the driver floor carpet) is causing issues. If the carpet / floor is wet, I would lift the carpet and check for wiring damage.
Thomas EXOVCDS ...tomorrow i will check the comfort module.i hope that is the cause..thx for your advice
gabi gabitzu Door actuators are the easier fix.. if the CCM / wiring is damaged, that can turn into a headache.
did this throw any dtc's to your scanner? i seen you had plugged into the dlc
I always do a full system scan... I think there was a lock module code.
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ever run into a problem after replacing one of these and when you turn the key to unlock once, the windows go down? unlocking twice does NOT unlock the other doors. every time I unlock the car with the key, all 4 windows proceed to open. any ideas?
+Daniel Gilbert Is this a new symptom or after a lock module was replaced? I've had mk3 vehicles that were sensitive (if you turn the key too slow, things act-up). Try a capacitive discharge (disconnect the battery & touch the cable together for a few seconds). Also check the comfort control module adaptations... something might have been changed.
this only does it since the module was replaced. I did what you said and it still does the same thing.
+Daniel Gilbert I'd say it was an issue with the lock module then... what was wrong with the old one? Plug the old one back in and compare... my guess is that there are some bad lock modules out there or ones that are sold for the wrong application.
+Thomas EXOVCDS I had the old one unplugged because it seemed to be causing a power drain when the car was off. The CCM WAS changed, but cant remember if it was before or after I unplugged it.
+Daniel Gilbert If the settings in the CCM are what they should be, then I would keep focus on the module side of things.
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Thank you for watching!
Hi Thomas. I want to ask you about the door module. I have a 2002 Bora/Jetta as how you call it, and I have trouble with the door switch. I have to change it. Does this module from Passat is compatible with my Bora? I heard that it's less noisy. When I lock or unlock the car the clicks are so loud that you have the impression that something broke in there. And this switch that is in the door module, can have something to do with the fact that the dome light doesn't always light up when I pull the key from the ignition??
P.S. great video, and keep up the good work!
Szalasi Zsolt I'll get back to you once I get home from work.
Szalasi Zsolt The door module can prevent the dome light from coming on when the door is opened... I have not noticed the dome light come on when the key is removed and the door is closed (I will have to check that on a car tomorrow). It might be possible that the Passat module will fit the Bora, but I have no experience with that swap / modification... sorry.
That's ok, I've been talking to some users on a Vw forum and they sayd that is compatible, it was tried on Golf mk4, and it worked, regarding the dome light not coming on when removing the key... Could that be from the Confort Module being faulty? Or can it be from some broken solder and not making contact?
Just now when I parked the car, I pulled the key from ignition.... nothing happened. Pitch black. I inserted the key again, put the contact, pulled it out again, voilla... the light came on. Sooo, not always has this problem.
Szalasi Zsolt That sounds more like an ignition switch function that is not working correctly.
And what could I do to fix that? Do I have any options?
currently struggling on getting the barrel in wihtout losing the metal collar
As long as the collar is sitting correctly, it can't fall. If it falls, it's not sitting correctly.
@@EXOVCDS is the adjustment screw meant to secure it? The small gold one.
@@leenevin8451 yes. You turn it too far and the clip falls out. The clip has a cutout that the screw sits in.
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