Automatic Transmission Flush Facts and Fictions, why transmissions fail, 6r80, 10r80, 68RFE maxlife
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Has transmission fluid been changed before on your Lexus?
Your ATF fluid is 10 years old, it's due to replacement long time ago and your filter. As bare minimum you should replace at least the ATF fluid. It okay to mix WS ATF fluid and Amsoil ATF fluid. For best protection you should drain and fill couple times with engine running so that you have the most fresh fluid in the transmission. Here is the link for your vehicle www.amsoil.com/lookup/auto-and-light-truck/2008/lexus/ls460/4-6l-8-cyl-engine-code-1ur-fse-3/us-volume/?zo=5257753
Yes.
repairvehicle can I use amsoil transmission fluid for my lx 470 Lexus please
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I have been an automatic transmission rebuilder for most of my working life and I can tell you 100% that you should change your auto trans fluid. I also own a 2017 Ford Ranger with the 6R80 transmission and have flushed the fluid as it was dark brown in color at only 50,000 km and it is working fine. Not changing your auto fluid is exactly the same as not changing your engine oil. Personally I couldn't care less if ppl did or didn't flush their auto's but as a professional transmission rebuilder it is critical if you want to longevity from your automatic transmission.
How often should I change my fluid? What about the filter? I’ve seen some youtube mechanics say not to worry about changing the filter just to change the fluid? I drive toyotas by the way?
What about SEALED transmission? Dealer say dont need to change it?
@@maolo76 yeah that’s a lie. It’s a little bit of a pain In the ass for diy but I don’t exactly trust the dealer to do it either, I also have a Toyota, I’m leaning towards draining out the fluid and measuring it and putting back new the exact amount that comes out. But that’s Only really good if you’re sure nobody was in there before and The level was correct to begin with because you’re doing the fluid check is definitely not as simple as a dipstick and requires some kind of measuring scan tool or handheld infrared thermometer
@@maolo76 lies. Needs to be changed every 60,000 miles. I just started trying to take care of my car (2010 Toyota Venza V6) lol and did it's first transmission drain and fill at 162,000 miles. My god the fluid was gross. Immediately noticed shifting improvement. Going to do another drain in 5,000 miles.
@@junior17medval toyota filter is wire like window screen not paper like others that clog up with time
He is absolutely RIGHT. Never..........EVER.........get talked into "a transmission fluid flush"........NO MATTER WHAT THAT PERSON/TECH/"EXPERT" CLAIMS. I bought a new Toyota Tacoma 4x4 with 2.7 liter engine & automatic transmission in the year 2000. I still drive this truck in perfect running condition on the original engine & transmission, even with 330,000 miles on it. TOYOTA EVEN RECOMMENDS "NEVER DO A FLUSH"........BUT RATHER INSTEAD, DO A SIMPLE DRAIN & FILL. Also, the older a transmission is ( with more miles on it ), the more deposits that are collected over time within the filter/screen, yet the transmission is still working fine, because those accumulated deposits are TRAPPED in the filter/screen. A simple & SAFE "drain & fill" will NOT cause those deposits to come loose from the filter/screen. BUT "A FLUSH" WILL FORCE A LOT OF THOSE DEPOSITS OUT OF THE FILTER/SCREEN, WHERE THOSE LOOSENED DEPOSITS NOW BEGIN TO FLOW & CONTAMINATE THE ENTIRE TRANSMISSION. As a matter of fact, they should make A LAW that makes all those damned "transmission flush" machines ILLEGAL. Because those "flush" machines really do destroy many transmissions that worked perfectly fine BEFORE "the flush". I've actually had CROOKS who work in places that sell "transmission flushes" claim that "your transmission actually has 2 LINES that are especially made FOR the flushing machine"......end quote. THAT IS A BALD-FACED LIE, THOSE "2 LINES" ARE SPECIFICALLY FOR THE TRANSMISSION COOLER/RADIATOR, AND NOTHING MORE.
The transmission flush machines destroy transmissions because they have all different types of fluids and the other fluids can be in worse condition then yours and actually pump crap into your tranny. I have my own small flush machine and use it on my vehicles only and I've never had an issue. And one of my cars has 445k and the other has 384k. (Both take the same fluid and both transmissions are in fantastic condition)
I don't get it - "A simple & SAFE "drain & fill" will NOT cause those deposits to come loose from the filter/screen. BUT "A FLUSH" WILL FORCE A LOT OF THOSE DEPOSITS OUT OF THE FILTER/SCREEN". How drain & fill approach is safer in regards to pushing the dirt and particles from the old filter?
Flush will not force deposits out from filter.
@@ddwrt3432 A flush will only damage the trans if the machine used wasn't cleaned properly before your transmission because it could have a different fluid previously in there and sediment from the previous flush. Actually you can flush the trans out through the cooler lines. It's not hard at all to do. I've done it to all my cars and never had a transmission problem doing it that way. Also after you flush it through the cooler lines then drop the pan, and change the filter and gasket.
@@vinnygraziano1318 yeah that's what I plan to do as well. I already did a filter change with pan drop.
One of the best explanations about transmission fluid changes on RUclips. Thanks!
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I drained, then ran the car draining fluid through the disconnected supply hose while pouring in fluid at the same time until new fluid was visible. Worked like a champ
Drain and fill worked for me after 6 times doing it it became alot cleaner. Thk you for the advice of no flushing atf great video and info.
Agree. I did "drain and top up" trans fluid change on ma family car camry every 3~40000 kms interval after the milage of 100000kms. Camry runs smooth and fluid getting cleaner as far as i change. I had alway wondering about flush machine in negative thought. Now you confirmed about it. Thanks.
Great information!! I think the point is not avoiding an ATF flush, but avoiding a bad flush. Funny enough, my toyota service manual specifies ATF change at 48K miles, I called the dealership and they quoted me an AT service with CVT fluid, even when my transmission is not CVT. I called the dealer again to try to buy ATF for my car and they quoted me ATF WS instead of ATF T-IV, which is the one listed in the manual. And these are the guys we trust our cars to.
What do you have?
@@repairvehicle It's a 2016 Toyota Avanza, with a 4 speed AT. I think that model is not available worlwide.
I use the pump and replace method. I remove the return line and stray the motor and pump out one quart at a time and replace with a quart of new. I do this until the fluid comes out nice and red. In case anyone is wondering, 3.4 l Toyota trans has a 12 quart capacity. I agree that the machine cleaning method is very risky. Anytime you introduce a solvent, it could dislodge gunk into the valve body causing issues
That really seems like the best way to do it. Do you know of any diy videos?
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Thats like saying you shouldnt change your engine oil. Rule of thumb, if you buy a used vehicle from a private party or car dealer, you ALWAYS change the filters on the Engine, Air and Transmission. If it has a filter, it needs changed. Running a transmission to 30,000 miles on regular transmission oil from factory to 10-15,000 miles, especially if its high heat outside and you are pulling a trailer. The Transmisson has a magnet on the bottom of the oil pan and it needs cleaned off from the metal shavings. It helps the tranny when this is changed. After you add the oil, then warm the car up and depress the brake and shift from park to drive and then to reverse and back again. then check the fluid level after its warmed up. Ive had NO problems from what I do here.
For Honda's, most RUclipsr Mechanics recommend dealership ATF fluid only. Otherwise, this technician is giving expert advice. I subscribed.
I agree on 1-3 however I flush my transmission myself, I disconnect the line to the cooler line by the radiator hook up a hose to a new catch pan. Refill with proper grade and type of fluid, after old fluid & pan removed and has been dropped and new pan filter installed with a spin on in my case. Then run motor, cycle transmission through gears, at idle, while parked, adding fluid as needed and not run it low, the converter, and clutch packs will never be starved. That's how you do a proper flush.
Agree. As long as you do it yourself, use OEM fluid, you should be fine. My fluid is looking pretty good still, so I'm going to just change the filter in the pan.
Why OEM fluid?
I’ve Been doing transmission drain and change the filter for 25 years. I’ve never had a transmission failure. Including the notoriously destructive 2000 Dodge Caravan transmission. 150,000 miles and still shifted like new. Every year changed the filter and topped off with amsoil. This guy knows his stuff!!
You definitely right on the spot about caravan, I had one. Very good point about changing filter and using amsoil.
If every mechanic watches this video the world will never have a failed transmission in future .. thankx man for this valuable infos that we will never see any where 👍👍
I have a 99 Silverado and the trans oil was noticeably dirty. A friend that works for a GM dealership just dropped the oil pan, changed the filter and refilled the oil that drained out when the pan was dropped. The oil is better but not all the dirty oil was removed. My friend said it's hard without doing a flush to get all the old dirty oil out. He suggested to do another filter change in a year or so to allow more dirt to be filtered. The transmission calls for Dexron III but we added Dexron VI which is compatible with Dexron III. When we do the next filter change, we will also add Dexron VI.
I just drain and fill my transmission today at 70,000 miles..I’m glad I didn’t get it flush by car shop...👍🏽
Is your car working better??
Smart man. NEVER go to a shop to have "a flush". That machine they use has the remains of fluid from the previous customer's car in it. Fluid that is most likely NOT the same type that your car uses. That gets pumped right into the next victim's car. Countless people had a transmission working just fine BEFORE getting a trans flush at a shop. They pay to have it done, and soon after they drive off, their transmission is ruined.
@@Sheeple-Wake-Up That's definitely not myth!
Drain and fill worked for me.
ATF used Valvoline max life synthetic ATF ( compatible with Nissan matic J and Matic D)
I also had to add Lucus. Transmission fix as a last resort. It’s a lot better now
But the check engine light is on. P0744
Fluid was vary dirty and burn but did not smell bad and it was dark brown when it came out. But no metal shavings.
2001 Nissan Maxima 203k miles
Drained about 1 gallon (no flush)
I put back 3.5 qt and Lucus (24oz). Also cleaned the code
And the difference was night and day and after 250 miles after the atf service it’s almost back to normal
Just the check engine light still on
P0744 ( back on at 70 miles)
The TCC solenoid is intermittent according to the code.
So far it looks good and I may of saved it.
Good discussion I knew this before I did a drain and fill .
Yep, this guy knows what he is talking about. I have watched ten other videos and I can't believe what they are showing people what to do.
true
A very brilliant explanation, and now I'm glad that I've never actually flushed a transmission, just dropped pan on a cold motor, and refilled with new fluid for whatever came out during the drain.
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Why do so many people chose for an automatic transmission ?
Never had a problem with manual transmissions over more than 1.5 million KM......
And it's so much more fun to drive , being in control of your engine !
+Frank Geeraerts , thank for the comments. Very few cars have manual transmission these days. With manual transmission you have clutch that needs to be replaced, specially when you drive in traffic.
Wow .. you are spot on. I learned the hard way. Went to an oil change place and my car was 7 years old. Ran perfectly; the transmission was NOT DIRTY or oil bad .. just towards the brown colour more than red. I paid extra as they had the sale .. free synthetic for the transmission on. Horrible 6 months later the transmission started acting up and they said it was like mud in the transmission .. thick black oil. What the heck happened??? They dumped the pan, but a new filter in, but said it was not looking good as it was so dirty.
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That was one of the most informative, and best illustrated auto repair videos I've ever seen. I'm going to watch everything you've done. Thanks for explaining the intricate details and fallacies of the industry. I feel better empowered to do this on my own.
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Speaking from experience as a mechanic for 20 yrs. I've only had 2 transmissions go bad after a flush. Had a few transmissions that went from not moving at all ,to moving and they had metal pieces and everything in it. Through my time the odds were great from doing flushes
Seems like a hit or miss. MY cousin's Honda Accord's transmission was ruined after a flush. I would rather just change and fill and repeat 3 times.
you did good, just have to remember to change fluid when the car is completely cold then you can do 1:1 swap
The way I did it, was remove the transmission drain plug, empty it, refill to level, drove the car for 20 minutes and repeated 5 times, no issues and transmission oil is 90% new, good enough for me. Car runs great
Forgot to mention, I went to the dealership part department, I purchased the oil type the used for my car back when car was built it happens to be ATF Type T-IV isn't cheap, but a new transmission cost is even more.
Went to the dealer. Parts guy advises me not to change transmission fluid as the fluid is "lifetime", im just planning a drain and fill anyway when i hit my first 100,000km but yeah they dont like us doing it. Dunno why.
i knew it! the dealership destroyed the transmission of my car. months later it blew up and i have to pay 4k to replace the whole transmission. it was fine before i brought it in then they advised me that it needs it. american labor at it’s finest.
They sell flushing in many countries.
I had a Mazda 926 once and decided to get a transmission flush. Before that, it was a decent little car. Never again!
Great Video. I remember in 1994-1995 my ZF-Voith 5hp30 Slushbox in a BMW. "Sealed For Life" At the time the only fluid to use was Shell LA-2634. BMW slowly changed their tune and advised what you advise. Drain and re-fill at regular intervals. Change the filter also. Dirt in the filter oxidizes the ATF after time. Currently I know Mercedes Benz includes a drain plug in the T/C but its a pain in the ass to get at. The flushing machine is only designed to make the shop owners $$$$ coming or going if you catch my drift.
Thank you for showing that toyota ws is compatible with amsoil sig (blue cap) is compatible in this video. gave me piece of mind in since you can never get all the fluid out in a drain and fill.
You are welcome!
And im going to exsplain why a transmision flush does not cause harm: 1. Hoses disconected when cars off 2. Same amount of fluid goes in as out. 3. It does not force fluid in, your trans pump draws out of tank. 4. Fluid goes in on return side so it goes through filter first. 5. Trans fluid does loose its viscosity., a dealer will tell you fluids will last a lifetime of ( transmission ) not car so figure 60-70k miles... thats why you should check/replace fluid at half the life expectancy of trans... 6. Chances are if your trans goes out after flush its because it was already damaged... although techs can put in wrong fluid, i suggest brining and using your own fluid.
Dirty Trucker thank you for explaining I have a 03 GMC Envoy and someone put in the wrong transmission fluid for a ford.. it ended up messing up my governor because I couldn’t go into second gear. The guy who is currently working on my truck suggested a transmission flush and I’ll be good to go..
Flushes are not good. You should only change the amount that is in the pan. If its over 100,000 change the filter inside the transmission if it has one. Never extract the oil from the tork converter. I have had 4 Toyotas' over 175, 000 each never had a problem with transmission.
The dirt and grime that is left behind is actually keeping the tork converter from slipping. Trust me this is from a specialist that works on transmissions all day, this is his dirty little secret...
Now you know
@@optimusprimo2012 because they are toyotas hahaha
Outstanding Video !!!!👍👍
I have told many techs /mechanics this same stuff when they have tried to sell me a flush over the yrs. They would always look at me with that confused look.
Thank you!
You simplify this so well it's incredibly easy to understand.
+Pat Delaney, thank you.
Thank you repairvehicle!
It's understood that the optimal condition for a transmission is 100% clean fluid.
100% clean fluid cannot be achieved by Flush Method or Drain Method.
The 1 to 1 ratio achieved by flush is the same as having dirty fluid in your opinion.
Basically, the end result of a flush (if done safely to avoid damage and contamination) is...a mixture of dirty and clean fluid.
The end result of a drain is...a mixture of dirty and clean fluid.
Other than the flush method being dangerous to execute compared to the drain method...it seems the end result of both is the same; I think this is your point, if both methods result in a mix of semi-clean fluid then perform the safest method.
My friend . this is the best video i've watched .... That is all i can say. THANKS
I did a flush on my 13 Camry but it had low miles and I had some guys I trust do it with OEM fluid. After this it’s drain and fills every 9k miles.
another reason I heard about, is that some mechanics add metal chips to your transmission so that it would break, for you to comeback and fix it, sucking more money out of you.
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+Gone Fishing, There are dishonest and honest mechanics.
Always stay with your car !!!!!
Now, now, you know that a dealership would NEVER do such a terrible thing. They have such an unblemished reputation for honest work..............NOT!
This is the reason I learned to work on my own car.
I have had two different vehicle transmissions flushed by a machine and have had no problems thousands and thousands of miles down the road. Follow the manufacture service interval.
If the person doing the flush is using a cleaner, then yeah, it will fail. However, only using the transmission fluid for your car and flushing using just that is fine. Drain a quart, add a quart and on and on.
If a manufacturer thinks that a component will make it through the warranty period and not fail, they get to advertise low maintenance intervals and low cost of ownership no matter how much damage is done before the warranty runs out.
Drop the pan, change the filter, look for fragments, inspect and clean the magnet and refill without additive if you are keeping the car. Do it often as this tuber recommends.
After the bull they told me about it wasn't their fault i was charged $1,100 so i learned a lesson a hard way. So remember if it's not broke don't fix it.
I do it every 30000 miles I never had a problem and I also pulled trailers if you do it on time on schedule with the correct fluid from the dealer you'll be just fine
+Ralph Kowalski, 30k is very good rule of thumb. However, you can run longer with premium synthetic ATF fluid.
Great video .....laymens terms.....no flushes for me ...Silverado 2011 6.6 ......gonna change tranny fluid ....but I'm at 266 thousand miles ....I'm due ...I guess any new fluid will be better then the old
.....and can change it more often ......from now.....
One of the best video I have seen so far, just like nothing can beat granny cooking. Thanks I love it
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You got bro love it
I agree. Drain and fill is the best way to flush. Do it 3 times for the ultimate results.
+SlyBird D, thank you. At least one person agrees with me.
so use the old gasget until the final fill up, if the old gadget still looks complete?
+Bernard Popp, what is your question? I don't understand.
I think he means “gasket” as in the seal - wants to know when the best time to change that is if you’re draining and filling multiple times in quick succession
Drain fill then drive for how many minutes then drain fill again? How about the filter? Can you post your process? Thanks.
I agree 100%. Drain and fill every 30,000 miles is all one needs to do.
My 2 cents are that people tend to flush way too late in the game. The transmission has already been through a lot and the flush disturbs the gunk that was keeping what was left of the clutches and seals and people blame the flush. I also think a lot of people start flushing thinking it will make the transmission run better after its already slipping and the flush finishes it off. All said, flushes are bs. Frequent drain and fills are the best way to go with occasional filter changes in between for those with a drain plug.
Thank you very much for this video. I have been watching other RUclips videos about transmission fluid changing and just didn't think that running the engine while draining the fluid seemed correct. Now I feel confident that I can change the ATF in my 2005 Chevy Trailblazer without doing any harm. Thanks again.
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i use an electric pump to flush mine in neutral with car running, never have had any issues; i don't cleaners however as that will get crap floating out in your transmission afterwards....
Very interesting informative video, I have a 2010 Nissan Sentra 2.0, it’s has a CVT Transmission. I bought the car with 32000 miles and my first oil flush was at 45000 miles, the car currently has 143,000, I have been flushing the transmission every 30,000. About 6 months ago, I took the car to a transmission specialist shop/mechanic for what I thought would be transmission failure they even gave me an estimate to have the transmission rebuild, I didn’t want to spend $3000.00 for a transmission so I just pour in 2 not 1 but 2 bottles of the those stop slip, it’s overfilled. I have been driving the car for approximately 8000 miles, the transmission kept on slipping, I was going to drive it until the transmission died. 2 weeks ago, I had to replace the ignition coils, 1 of the coils went bad, so I replaced all 4 ignition coils, spark plugs, and Valve cover gasket, the transmission is working excellent now
I believe the transmission never had a problem, because after replacing the coil and spark plugs the transmission just having problems!
My question is, am I too late to drain and fill ?
I want to used Valvoline CVT Fluid.
I saw your video on not to disconnect the transmission hose to drain the fluid, I also have a question. Can do a transmission drain with fill with Valvoline CVT Fluid, and because the transmission has new fluid the color would be different, can I disconnect the hose to drain the torque converter and when I see new oil being pump out turn off the car??
Before I can answer your question, I will need more information from you. Are you having issues with your transmission now? If yes, what is issues are you having? What fluid did you add to the transmission?
I know for a fact from a long time transmission rebuiilder that flushing an automatic transmission is a very bad idea. Drain the fluid and change the filter. When I do mine I usually drain and refill the fluid run the car for a few hundred miles and drain and refill the fluid again.
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Yep, you got it right. I have been doing it that way for years. No trans problems whatsoever.I change mine every 30k mi, which for some may be overkill, but its cheap insurance.Best to have an external trans cooler as well if you tow, or if you just live in a hot climate.
+leegmc1985, thanks.
leegmc1985 overkill? Really? I thought that was nornal.
Hi David,
Do we have to drop the pan and change the filter or drain and refill will be enough? This is for camry 2007 or highlander 2011.
Thanks
Great video on transmission flushing process. Good advice too on maintainence of auto transmissions.Thank you very much.
You are welcome
Very informative! If you do another demonstration, I'd like to see the contaminated hose problem illustrated in the demonstration.
I am disabled so I can not drain and fill my transmission. All the Toyota dealers will do is a transmission flush. I bought a 2014 Toyota Sienna in 2016 with 10,000 miles on it. In 2023 it now has 95,000. It still runs and shifts as good as when I bought it, but now I am really wanting to find someone to just drain and fill it, but all of them say they will just use the transmission flush machine. I live in Waco Texas, and it is a small town, so I can not find any mechanics willing to just do a drain and fill. It doesn't leak anywhere, but now since it has never been drained, I probably need to have the transmission filter replaced, and the mechanic said that would require the sub frame and the air conditioner to be removed, so I didn't know what to do. I can not sleep at night thinking about it all the time! 😢
Keep looking and you will find. Also, try next town.
Great advice. Not doing transmission flush now
As always an informative video. Excellent explanation of fluid types, compatibility and cross- contamination.
Thank you sir for the education / clear explanation on this flush process. i had been contemplating having an ATF flush. Now for certain i will not !
This subject is so divided upon. Many mechanics say yes flush The ATF, all fluids degrade in time and wear while other half say there is no need....confusing
You don’t get a full flush but the sure will charge you for a full flush. I need my transmission flushed, after this video I know what questions to ask the mechanic before they touch my Toyota. 👍
Hello Repairvehicle, Thanks for taking your time to make this Video is been very educative.
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Great Video breaking down the basic operating in depth of how transmissions work. School in session! I still don't understand why some of these dealerships and local oil change places recommend using a flush service machine that is Cross Contaminated with different types of Trans Fluid they offer...... for me NOT A CHANCE!! EVER! thank you for sharing!
Bottom line, transmission torque converters need a drain plug.
So to clarify, here's my takeaway on draining and filling as the better alternative to flushing: 1) drain once, fill, run some more, drain again, fill again. 2) Changing an internal strainer type filter is not necessary in normal use. Did I understand that correctly?
One thing I inferred from this is that it's okay that some of the old transaxle fluid remains behind as long as the new stuff you put in is compatible with the old stuff (assuming the old stuff is correct too). Therefore, to use my application (a Toyota U660e transaxle) as an example, I would drain the WS fluid out of the pan, refill it with Amsoil signature series; run it some more, drain the pan again; then top it off with additional Amsoil signature series at the correct operating temperature with the car level. The WS fluid that is leftover in the transaxle should therefore be diluted enough to where it won't be an issue, presumably, provided that it is changed again in a timely fashion. The filter should ordinarily be left alone unless the transmission has had some severe use. Does it sound like I got it?
You got it. If transmission fluid has not been replaced before reaching 100k miles, it's good idea to replace transmission filter if the filter media is like engine oil filter.
don’t do flushes , follow the Honda procedure, drain fill drive. 3 times.
That's what I did on my f150.
Watch this video about filters. You can change filter before you do drain and fill.
You don't have to drive, you can if you want.
Shifting gears while engine is running with foot on the brake is sufficient.
Drain and fill myself . I’ve never flushed and just replace Half the fluid every 20k. Never had an issue but I do make sure I use factory fluid and never mix and match..
Thank you for this info,I was thinking of having this done,not now. 😊😊
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My uncle had a lube shop for over 25 year, flushed thousands of transmissions and filter changes. I've personally done hundreds. Maybe a hand full of failures. I flush mine every 15 k and replace filter every 30. You'll never cause a premature failure doing that. It's people who wait until 150k, than flush trans for the first time.
Perhaps if you change the fluid you won't have a problem
What he is saying is 100% true.
Agree with you about to not flushing for 100%. My system is to change the ATF from the pan, clean up, change the filter, gasket ans so on. A view miles later drop the mixed ATF again, another view miles again. IMO the filter has to be replaced because he is in suction circulation. The flow will bee disturbed with a loss of power from suction side.
That's why I do the drain first - while engine is off. Then refill- turn on engine repeat the process 3x .
jd5179 im doing this right now to my honda civic 94 auto i did it 4 times cause it slipped to the point it would only move 100 feet before slipping and not moving i would have to turn it off and on to do it all over again. I hope it works
I was talking to the mechanic today and asked him what is the cause for the transmission to slip? I asked him clutches, torque converter? He told me oil pump in the transmission is worn-out because transmission was overheated or ATF fluid was not charged on regular basis.
thank. a long time ago I got a quote at toyota for the service of 150.00 but don't trust technician based on working in the field and seeing and hearing about short cuts they take so I didn't take it. I never took shortcut on customers car and was the best in shop for simple thing as balancing tires yet no one else in shop could take care of repeat customer for balancing because they do not follow procedure. you reminded me of trans machine in shop and didn't hit me about mixing fluids. I wish I could just pay you to change my fluid for me since I'm one state over but I will try and not be lazy. definately not flushing now.
You are crazy camera operator. BTW great content of the video!
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I have a 95 ram with a leaky transmission. changing the fluid this weekend. was told by a friend the difference between flush and change and it makes sense to me.
Thanks my friend good job very helpful
Thank you! What do you have?
My local Toyota dealership swears there is no harm in doing the flush and that is what they do for transmissions. So frustrating.
Great video. I'm going to drain and fill 3 times on my 2003 Silverado 1500. Question is do I do it , one after the other or do I once and drive around a bit then drain and fill and so on? Thank you.
It doesn't really matter, it comes down to personal preference. I do one after the other.
I'm doing the same thing right now. The few mechanics I talked to said just drain and fill the transmission every oil change until it's clean. Some said it can take 3 drains or up to 6 depending on how gross the fluid was.
Thank you for being helpful. I was just about to get a transmission flush, now I will drain and refill it myself.
+Music12372, you are welcome. Please subscribe and share my video with others via Facebook or any other way.
Thank you learned somethings new again. How do you do a drain and fill for newer model 2018 and up Toyota Rav4 and Lexus NX300?
Very nice video. Thanks for making this video. I was just thinking about the vaccum my transmission.But now I change my mind not to flush my transmission.
He has a heavy accent because he's from where real engineers are from
I’m a 60 year old American. Zub Zero question, who designed and built the space shuttle that blew up because of a o- ring that failed. Americans that’s who. This man is just trying to be helpful, you should try to do the same.
@@wm5723 - careful there, I believe that was more of a Morton-Thiokol management decision. The engineers actually warned them. One of the engineers, Roger Boisjoly (the same engineer whose pleas to delay launching the shuttle were ignored), filed a $1 billion personal injury and damage suit against the company accusing it of ''criminal homicide'' in the death of the seven crew members. Engineers are always a convenient scapegoat for management.
Your English speaking skills are horrible, but your enthusiasm, knowledge, and desire to educate your viewers makes it all very understandable. I already knew all of this, but recognize how important it is to get the word out: I am very grateful for your video, thank you.
A warning should be added to all new vehicle owners manual: Do not allow your vehicle to be serviced through the use of a transmission flush machine - your warranty will be void if you do so.
Thanks
No problem
Drain and fill with the exact amount that came out never had a problem doing this with Toyotas
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If you don't want to do it yourself, just take the correct fluid and filter to a garage and have them change what's in the pan, and then disconnect the transmission cooler line and remove and add one quart at a time until all the old fluid has been pumped out.
+Spurious Effect, I change my own fluids my self. Thank you for commenting.
Drain and fill only never flush
i have watched a lot of video's on transmission fush'es but this one makes the most sense i'm not going to take it to a mechanic any more im going to do it my self and only do it like u specified so thank u very much and going to subscibe to yur channel
Thank you.
FACT!
Manual transmissions are better, but if you have an automatic drain & fill it yourself. Other tips; 1) don't idle in drive with foot on the brake for long periods, put it in neutral or park or shut off. 2) avoid driving through flooded roads as this can ruin automatic transmissions as they have vents. 3) Change your transmission fluid more often depending on driving conditions that cause higher temperatures. Never changing it will limit the life of the AT. However, if it is a higher mileage car and has never had a trans fluid change maybe leave it.
Great video, good job, Thanks!
Basically drain & refill is cheaper and cut the BS. Thank you sir!
You are welcome
I know too many people that have had their transmissions flushed and had problems after the fact
+Conservative America, thank for commenting. Share this video with others, if you don't mind.
+ferkemall, good point.
ferkemall that's the trick a lot of people are missing here! It all depends the condition of your fluid! If there's a lot of clutch material in your current fluid you're screwed. It's best to take some out and have a good look at it
Dirk Turrell then just do a change and not a flush
Drain and fill is a best bet. Then you have people that never even done any fluid changes period, and want to do so. I also agree and heard lots of stories doing a flush with a flush machine and the transmission slipping gears. Not grabbing any gears.
Thanks for the info..... since I already dropped the pan I will put everything back, refill, start engine and let fluid mix and replace the fluid again. The method of disconnecting the hose sounds like to much risk for damaging.
+Antonio Pedraza, you are welcome.
My transmission specialist drains the trany oil and remove the pan, inspect, replace filter/s, pan gasket then refills.
They recommend every 60,000 kilometers which is just over 37,000 miles.
I will have find out and see if they use an ATF with a base 3 (full synthetic) oil or base 4 (100% synthetic). Thanks again for your excellent information.
Is this method at this milage ok in your opinion?
+Martin Lang, yes. If you replace fluid at this interval, you will have trouble free transmission for many hundreds of thousands miles.
Martin Lang
What's the difference between "full synthetic" and "100% synthetic"?
You made this distinction in your comment.
+mrfrankcastle083, do you know the difference between full synthetic Motor oil vs 100% synthetic Motor Oil?
mrfrankcastle083 research this for yourself. Basicly it depends on the type of oil base use: bases 1 to 3 give you non synthetic and some manufactures with base 3 and using synthetic additives ckaim their oil to be 100% synthetic, which is wrong as a base 3 (mineral oil base). Only bases 4 and 5 are true synthetic. IMO this is false advertising, however they were legally allowed to get away with this. Study the Oil specs, way too much to describe here. Good on you for asking as it is critial to understand the difference.
+Martin Lang, very good explanation. Thank you.
The 6r80 can’t be flush due to the internal thermal valve bypass. Doesn’t allow fluid to the transmission is warmed up
Hi there, your video is very knowledgeable! I have a couple of questions for you to answer/help me. Ok, I have a 2012 5.7 tundra. It has 125k mile! Drives great but I never replaced the transmission fluid! I want to change the fluids and filter. My plan is change the fluid 3 time and on 3rd time change the filter also. How many miles should I run between to let it clean out old fluid until I'm ready to replace new filter?Once its flushed with new fluids and filter I don't plan on changing for awhile! Also can I switch to ams or should I stick with toyota ws? I do tow a lot. Please, and info will help! Thanks.....
By the way you have very nice truck. I am in the process of getting rid of my f150 and getting myself tundra same year or older.
This is what I would do.
Drain the fluid and replace the filter. After replacing filter I would add fresh Amsoil ATF fluid and let engine run for 5 minutes and shift through the gears couple times to circulate fluid. Turn off engine, repeat drain and fill couple more times. If you just drain the fluid and change fluid 3 times with old dirty filter, you just contaminating new fluid by running through old dirty filter. I am using Amsoil ATF fluid in my cars and I have video updates on my channel. I have a lot of videos related to your tundra, because I have Sequoia with 5.7. here is the link www.amsoil.com/lookup/auto-and-light-truck/2012/toyota/tundra/5-7l-8-cyl-engine-code-3ur-fbe-6-flex/us-volume/?zo=5257753
Factory fluids cannot last more than 30k miles without causing severe transmission wear. You can get 100k miles on the factory fluid, but you going to have so much wear, that transmission is junk after that. Dealer promoting oil change 20-30k miles? Be more specific. You go by what you believe, I go by oil analysis reports.
If people will just stop listening to manufacturers about auto transmissions being sealed for life and never needing a oil/filter change BS and getting it done regularly. Then you'll never to flush it.
Agree. Please share my video with others. Thank you.
it's truely sealed for the life....
As soon as transmission needs replacement, the car life is over !!
Everyone knows what "lifetime prorated warranty" means...
No one carres so the owner has to cut through BS.
Spaciba !
Hello Mr. Vehiclerepair. My Kia has a "sealed transmission" and dealer says only flush will work. Now I am very confused because transmission has no dipstick to check level or color. I admire your recommendation. What is your advise in this situation. I trust you.
dan dinhofer, sealed transmission is nothing new. Toyota/Lexus vehicles have sealed transmission for past 10 years. Sealed transmission means, there's no dipstick. However, it has fill plug and more likely drain plug. Please, remember, dealer is going to try to sell you stuff that you need and stuff that you don't need. I personally would not do a transmission flush even if it was free, I would not recommend to anyone. It is better to drain and refill with new fluid. Take a look at my latest videos on transmission fluid change, how I done it on Toyota with sealed transmission. It might be very similar on Kia.
What about manual transmissions? I have a 2002 Nissan Maxima with a 6 speed manual. Not sure if the fluid has ever been changed. Drain and refill is the only otion and it calls for 75w90 GL-4 gear oil.
Brandon Lee, Amsoil does make fluid for manual transmission. Changing transmission fluid will make your transmission last longer and you will feel the difference. Let me know if you have any additional questions.
Brandon Lee, manual transmission is just drain and refill. You don't do transmission flush on manual transmission.
repairvehicle But it won't hurt it just by replacing the old gear oil with new will it?
I did the machine flush on my 2013 Lexus ES350 at a shop. After the flush, the transmission started to make a whining sound. I wish saw this video before I did that.
Which shop?
@@repairvehicle Lexus dealer. They told me they have a machine to flush to transmission, which I was pretty happy with :( Besides the whining sound, the transmission seems to be working fine.
Please share this video with others so that they don't make same mistake.
Weird a dealer suggested that as many say they are "sealed" and they have lifetime fluid ha. How many Miles on it?
Excellent tutorial 👍Subbed😆
Very good info. Thankyou. On the funny side, at 6 minutes, the camera shadow looks like Bart Simpson. LOLs
+senecaiii2009, you are welcome. Looks like you are very good observer and listener.
how about one drops the pan, replaces the filter, adds a couple of gallons of new fluid, connect a tube to the exit from transmission that goes into the transmission oil cooler and run until there's a marked color change in the fluid all the while adding new fluid and going through the gears?
This is very complex approach. I don't think its possible to add fluid yourself at the rate that its being pumped by the transmission pump when extracting from disconnected hose. You would have to pump the fluid into transmission at the exact same speed or faster as transmission pump does. Thank you for commenting.
repairvehicle : why should't you be able to do that? The transsmision pump already does it, it pumps out fluid towards the cooler and gets back exactly what it pumped out. You would need a large cylinder, preferably made of glass or acrylic, with a tube at each end and a total capacity at least one and a half more than the total capacity of your transmission. Inside the cylinder should be a thin free-floating piston who would split the cylinder in two separate chambers. You bring the piston down and conect the small bottom chamber to the atf output hose which goes to the atf cooler, and use the atf from the cooler to fill that hose and the small bottom chamber. Bleed all the air. You fill the large chamber, on the top of the piston with your fresh atf, conect the atf cooler return line to that chamber and bleed that one too. Now you start your engine and work the selector in all modes so all the valves open and close. The transsmision pump will push the old atf in the small chamber of the cylinder, which will push the piston, which will push the new atf in the transmission body at exactly the same rate as the old is leaving it. When the piston reaches the top of the cylinder, shutt off the engine. Now your cylinder is full with the old atf and even some of the new atf which has flushed the transmission. Clamp the hoses, connect them back to the cooler, run the engine for one minute and add atf in the transmission to compensate for the empty cooler. Now only very small quantities of old atf shoud contaminate your new atf. But if it is wise to do such a flush I do not know, as I understand it there are situations when it is better to leave the old, burned atf in the transmission if it works.
+Remus Avădanei , thanks for commenting. Your way of ATF flush is very complex and time consuming. Best thing to do is to drain and refill with correct amount. Repeat same thing again and you will have almost 100% fresh, and clean fluid. Also, it's easy to do it and fast. Having old fluid inside transmission, will accelerate wear to the transmission.. Leaving old fluid and never replacing it's like leaving water in the bath tub and never draining the bath tub and taking bath again and again in dirty water.
True, it is complex, but it is theoretically possible because you would maintain a closed system, not an open system as suggested by G VS.
Anyway, I have another question: I have the manufacturer's service and repair manuals for my transmission (an Mitsubishi A4AW4) and they are saying that two procedures can be performed. First they call an "ATF Replacement" and starts with disconnecting the output line from the cooler, running the engine and draining aprox. 3.4L (but no more than 1 min or more than that amount), then drain the pan via the drain plug, where just 0.8L gets out, filling with 4.2L of new atf, repeat running the engine for another 3.4L, connect the hose, fill with atf, check level. The second one they call "ATF Cooler Line Flushing" and it's basically the same but without touching the drain plug: just run the engine discharging each time 3.4L until at least 6L of atf has been drained (the total capacity is 7.2L). No ATF pan disassembly , no oil strainer replacement, no magnets cleaned. They don't even give a part number for that strainer.
Now, I bought that car used, with 87000 miles, I do not know the history of the transmission fluid that is in there, if, when of how was it changed. Now the atf has a very light brown colour and no smell. I allready bought the fluid for a change, but I have no idea what to do next: change it as stated in the manual, changing it with the oil pan taken out, cleaned and maybe the filter replaced (if I track the parts) or just leave it as it is, because the transmission works very well and new atf with its detergent powers will dislodge debris and maybe ruin something? What would you do? The car is a 4x4 and I plan on climbing a few hills...but not hardcore off-roading.
+Remus Avădanei, what year is your car? How many cylinders?