Even though Spiderman 3 wasn't originally supposed to have Venom, I'm still shocked at how good the symbiote looks in this film. 14 years later and this still looks absolutely gorgeous.
Something occurred to me after watching this scene again. Right after that small piece of the symbiote touched Eddie’s jacket, the rest of it basically gives up on Peter and goes straight for Eddie. Like it had a taste of someone with sweet murderous hate and and preferred it over the stale bland guilt. Love little touches like this!
A couple key symbolic things I noticed, cause this scene is absolutely stuffed with details: -Eddie actually goes to church after Peter tells him "You want forgiveness? Get religion", but its for the opposite of forgiveness -The shot of Eddie entering the church is filmed with his reflection upside down in the holy water, signifying his life turning upside down -Eddie quite literally hears a bell when he asks for Peter's death, which brings him to where he gets the power to do so -Peter is up on high, getting rid of the evil (venom), while Eddie is down low asking for a bad deed and gets consumed by the evil -The church being a place people go to repent is fittingly the setting for Peter's repentance, but its the opposite for Eddie because he is full of hatred and desire to sin
It took me thirteen years to realize the duality at play in this scene: When Peter is at his lowest point, he recognizes what he's done and takes steps to make things right. When Eddie is at his lowest point, he refuses to accept what he's done and wants to hurt other people. Peter goes to a church to take the first steps to redemption and ultimately gets it. Eddie goes to a church seeking revenge and is ultimately destroyed. The symbiote corrupted Peter, but because he is, at his core, a good person, he managed to break free. Because Eddie is, at his core, is a selfish, cruel person, the symbiote utterly corrupted him and led to his death. Spider-Man 3 is a lot smarter than many people think.
I really love how they portray Peter tried to fight against the evil that corrupted him while Eddie accept the new power that came from the evil as a way to get revenge
Spider-Man 3 isn't necesarily a bad movie, it's just..... unfocused is what I'd call it. It's been said before but they tried to juggle too many plots at the same time, Venom, Harry as the second Green Goblin and Sandman all crammed in 2 and a half hours. (Wow, that's actually longer than expected.) Had they just focused on only adapting the Black Suit/Venom Saga, I imagine it could've been the best in the trilogy. Or maybe even franchise, as there would've been a Spider-Man 4 and maybe 5 in which they could've done the other two stories. They could've explored where the symbiote came from, (I don't think it ever happens in the movie, does it? I vaguely recall a scene where Peter has the symbiote examined by Dr. Connors but that might not be this movie.) How the city responded to their hero suddenly wearing all-black, how even before the symbiote, Eddie got screwed over by Peter, even if unintentionally. I think the Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon did that last thing very well.
@@LexCrafttoons Its in this movie. Doctor Connors only really explains that it needed a host to bind with and that he wonders where Peter got it from. Also hi,,
Actually no. The symbiote didn't corrupt Spiderman. Spiderman corrupted the symbiote. You have to understand. Symbiotes, in nature, are creatures that require another species to survive, but also offer something in return. A remora is a type of symbiote, for example - it's a fish that latches onto the bellies of sharks, and eats the parasites in their skin. The shark has to lug this smaller fish around for a bit, but it's worth it because the remora keeps it healthy. And it's no coincidence that Marvel chose to give the name 'symbiote' to the alien that infected Peter and Eddie. The Venom Symbiote is an alien. It does not understand human morality. When it bonded with Peter, it's first exposure to the human way of thinking and interacting was entirely through Peter's eyes. The thing is, Peter Parker isn't a normal human. He's a mess. He lives two lives - one where he is a hero who goes around saving the city, and the other where he is a reclusive nerd who is bullied and mocked on a regular basis. He allows himself to be bullied and mocked because he doesn't want to abuse his powers or draw attention to himself, but at the same time he resents the way he is treated. At the same time he also takes pride in his role as a hero, but he resents how certain parts of the city are determined to slander him by portraying him as a villain or a dangerous vigilante. So the symbiote looks at this and is confused. It doesn't make sense. But it's still a symbiote, and since Peter is keeping it alive, it wants to help Peter in return. So it tries to find ways to make Peter more successful and happy. Unfortunately, a lot of the successful and happy people in Peter's life and the city as a whole are assholes, so there aren't many positive examples to go off of. The symbiote sees all these confident, assertive dickbags going through life finding success, love, and money, and decides that the best way for Peter to succeed is to come out of his shell, stop being modest, and emulate them. It doesn't understand how this behaviour is immoral or obnoxious - it assumes that it's just the norm for humans. Spiderman eventually notices the effect the symbiote is having on him, and decides he doesn't want it. So, he tries to kill it. And how does he try to kill it? In the most painful way possible - exposing it to its primary weakness. Look at it from the symbiote's perspective: you've spent weeks trying to bond with this guy and help him get out of a dark period of his life, and in return he tries to torture you to death in the most painful way possible for you. Now let's look at Eddie. Eddie in the movie is depicted as far more malicious than he was in the comics. Comic Eddie was actually a good, decent guy, until Spiderman indirectly and unintentionally screwed his life over. He was publicly humiliated, he lost his job, and he lost his girlfriend. In the comics, Eddie didn't go to that church to ask God to kill Peter Parker - he went there to beg forgiveness and then kill himself. It's possible he was planning to kill himself in the movie, too. And this is where Eddie and the Venom Symbiote bond; when both are at their absolute lowest points. Venom has just been betrayed and tortured by Spiderman, while Eddie no longer has a reason to live and thinks Spiderman is at least partially responsible for the state he is in. When they merge, it's not as simple as "the symbiote corrupted Eddie." They corrupted each other. Their shared hatred of Spiderman made them obsessed with killing him, and their shared victim complex caused them both to become selfish and out for themselves. That, and the fact that the Venom Symbiote still felt it was its duty to help its host, and one of the main things which prevented Eddie from being happy was the resentment he held toward Peter. So by the Symbiote's logic, the best way to help Eddie is to kill Peter Parker so that Eddie can move on with his life. TL;DR: The Symbiote is neither corrupting nor malicious. It was actually trying to help Peter, but it didn't understand humans so it accidentally made things worse. Peter, not understanding the Symbiote's intentions, tried to torture it to death. The Symbiote, feeling vengeful and betrayed, bonded with Eddie, who was in a state of intense depression and anger. Neither Eddie nor the Symbiote were in a state where they could healthily process what they were feeling or help each other overcome it, so instead they both became even more toxic - more Venomous, you could say. In the end, it was humanity which corrupted the Symbiote - not the other way around.
Everyone's talking about Eddie's prayer. All I can think about is how Peter had to web swing back to his apartment, naked in the rain without anyone seeing him.
I love how Raimi uses the black suit to tackle adult themes like addiction in a way that kids or young adults could understand. Most notably stuff like lust, substance abuse, greed, pride, anger, etc. And have an arc dedicated to overcoming it and how it’s not easy. Just like with all unhealthy addictions it starts off feeling good and you think you have control of it but then eventually you lose yourself without realizing it and it affects every area of your life including the people you care about and you become an an entirely different person. Once you acknowledge you have a problem and need to change it’s not easy to break. I don’t think Raimi got enough credit for it back in the day but I’m glad a lot of people are realizing it now.
@@hannahlarocco4699 if you read my comment you would know what my point is. I was pointing out how I liked how Sam Raimi used the black suit to tackle themes like addiction and substance abuse in a way kids could understand. Peter displayed all signs of an addict in this movie when used the black suit which as a result he hurt the people closest to him which is why he knew he was far gone and hadn’t realized it until it was too late and knew he had to let it go.
All fan rage and issues aside, EVERYTHING about this scene -The music -The cinematography -The pacing -Visuals -sound design -Tobey Maguire’s physical acting - Topher Grace’s desperation All of it is amazing. I truly feel like Spider-Man 3 is a movie made of individual scenes, rather than a movie made of a solid/functional narrative
If they had just kept sandman as the primary villain, had goblin as a villain turned anti hero without venom in the picture, It would have been a better narrative. Albeit not a bad movie by any stretch of the imagination
@@ShFred very true. That just goes to show how talented Sam raimi as a director. Even when he is forced to include elements that he believes don’t belong he still makes a good run of it
To this day I think Sandman was the best thing in the third movie. The actor really portrayed a very relatable Flint Marko to the point they literally copied it to the Spiderman 2 game. Even the speech mannerisms, slow, naive almost dumb like but good hearted spirit. They also did a theme song score for the Sandman that also gave me goosebumps, very beautiful.
The symbiote in this movie really embodies anger, spite, vengeance, and violence. When Peter gets it, he wants to get revenge on Sandman for killing his uncle. But after the rest of the film happens and Peter realizes his mistake, he rejects the symbiote and makes himself better, and is even able to forgive Sandman for his mistake. Eddie, on the other hand, just points figures whenever he's at his lowest point. When Peter gets him fired, he wants revenge, and the symbiote lands on him, and he fully embraces that and never learns to forgive.
When I'm top of a church hitting a bell repeatedly to get rid of my addiction and my addictions falls on someone who prayed to God for my death and I fall unconscious
Eddie asked God to kill Peter. God responds by killing the evil in Peter and that evil fell to Eddie as punishment. This is probably one of my favorite scenes in a movie.
@@saint8350 you don't know how God does his work. Nobody does. Edit: if you're going to make an argument with me, don't. The issue (that wouldn't be here if someone knows, understands and accepts that different countries have differing beliefs) has been resolved.
@@saint8350 mhm. If you're not "spiritually blind", as you put it, how does God works then? Please enlighten this mind and body of mine that grew out of touch light! Seriously though, since you had the audacity to call me spiritually blind, I expect that you aren't. Now tell me how God works.
@@nazimahdollip-abdoollah4587 But Spidey was finding it painful while the bell was ringing. Obviously since it was a kids cartoon the timespan was shortened
No matter what, this version of him getting the Symbiote off of him is the best. The way how the suit keeps trying to reconnect itself whenever he tries ripping it off is so satisfying to watch. As much as I love Insomniac's version of the black suit, Sam Raimi really nailed the Symbiote removal scene.
He literally prayed on a man’s downfall he is more devious that Tom Hardy Venom imagine just how deranged and outright petty you have to be to pray on your enemies downfall
@@its1899 When they released the poster that had him in the black suit sitting at the top of the church looking down was mad fire and everyone back then was going insane the shit was like avengers endgame
@@jimmy6839 yes you would. That was the point of what Peter was doing to Eddie around the end of the movie he used venom weakness to remove the suit from Eddie
The metaphorical justice in this scene is just awesome writing. Eddie turns to God and dares to ask him to strike Peter down with anger and vengeance, so God punishes Eddie instead. Beautiful scene.
One detail I never noticed as a kid is that Eddie transformed into Venom while on an image of a cross. God killed the evil in Peter so he could cleanse himself of the suit, while also forcing Eddie's evil out to show just how much of a monster he is
I un-ironically love this scene. It’s my favorite interpretation of Peter getting rid of the suit. The visuals and sound design make it look like he’s trying to peel off a layer of skin with how well they’ve bonded. Then the fact he becomes more successful when the suit gets a taste of Eddy leaves you wondering if Peter succeeded, or if the symbiote gave up the fight. It’s so good for so many reasons. I un-apologetically love this film.
@@ashlirabid9614 Indeed “in-ironic” isn’t a real word. “Unironically” however (I mistakingly put a hyphen in it, so you got me there) is indeed a real word. You can Google it. Maybe we can just both agree this scene is great instead of nitpicking each other’s comments though 😁
Great analysis! I truly think it was a little bit of both. I think Venom gave up on Peter not just because he got a taste of Eddie, but I think the suit maybe sensed that Peter would rather die with the suit than be controlled by it. Kind of like in the Web of Shadow Comic
@@ProtagonisTeneTit does, the movie directly states that the symbiote feeds off its host’s negative emotions and makes them feel more confident and powerful, Eddie was scared at first because a weird alien latex was falling on him and taking over his body, but he was at his lowest point in life so all the negativity in him made the symbiote stronger and they started to bond immediately based on their shared hate of the same person (Peter/spidey). That’s why he smiles, it feels good and he’s accepting it.
This is one of my favourite scenes ever. Even the CGI! Just the ruthlessness of him ripping it off but the Symbiote’s desperation to stay on him so it tries recovering was so fascinating!
Fun fact: In an interview, this is actually how the movie was going to end. In the original 3 script when Sony first asked for venom, Raimi was gonna do just the Black Suit storyline and Sandman as the only villain. When peter gets his suit off and Eddie changed into Venom, he wasn't going to be shown. The transformation would cut away in the final moments and the audience wouldn't see what he truly looked like, and Venom would escape and not be seen at all for the rest of the movie. And in 4 he was going to be brought back as the main villain. But Sony said "No, we want venom now".
We could say that Peter freed himself from sin, from the evil that was in him, that's why it took him so long to get rid of the suit. In addition, he had already committed many evils, so it would be increasingly difficult to get rid of him. We could also conjecture that Eddie fell into a very great evil and that is why Venom caught him.
It's easy to forget, but Peter is actually inhumanly strong and could punch the skeleton out of you if he so desired. For him to struggle with the symbiote and needing to exploit it's weakness to sound to get it off is a testament to the symbiote's own alien endurance.
This is the most overhated movie of all time, and you cannot convince me otherwise. This scene sends chills down my spine. I can’t believe people have the nerve to say Tobey wasn’t a good actor. He is moving and screaming like he’s fighting for his life. 1:35 to the end is bafflingly good. This should have been the ending to Spider-Man 3, and S4 could have been 2 and a half hours of straight up Tobey vs Venom.
@@huangdynasty8536 There’s problems with it, like for instance I can’t stand Mary Jane’s character. And Peter kissing Gwen upside down was really out of nowhere and unnecessary. And they definitely didn’t give enough development time to Venom before him and Peter fought. But dude, there are so many moments in this movie that completely overshadow the bad parts. Black Suit vs Sandman, Black Suit vs Harry, this scene, Peter and Harry vs Sandman and Venom, the scene where Peter tells May he’s going to propose to MJ, etc. I don’t wanna type too much but yeah, this movie holds a special place in my heart lol
@@TylerG13 TBH, I’d argue that MJ was brilliant and Peter kissing Gwen made sense. Peter was so full of himself in the first act of the movie (hell he regains himself at the end of the 2nd act). He couldn’t even help MJ when she needed his comfort, lied to Harry, kissed Gwen (as you know), and was willing to kill Flint Marko (the symbiote is what basically kicked him off into gear). Then by the end of the movie after he realises how much of an arrogant runt he’s been, he tries owning up for his mistakes and finally becomes the Peter we all know. The whole reason Peter was evil with the symbiote was because it brought out the anger, vengeance, and darkness form within his heart that was slowly built up through the first half of the film and only reached its lowest point when Peter discovered Sandman killed his uncle instead of Dennis. But yeah, we can both agree that Venom could’ve used some more time in the oven.
I was listening to an audio book on the novelization of this movie. And in this particular scene, I read that everytime Peter was losing the will to rip the suit off his body, he replayed the image of him hitting Mary Jane in his head to force himself to keep going until the suit was off him completely. Spider-Man's willpower has got to be the strongest in fiction period.
I think that was initially the plan. Sandman got the main role, with the black suit being a major plot point. Then at the end, after peter realized whats happening, this scene comes up, then next movie. Which makes a lot of sense considering how we first see venom. That lunge into the screen is a classic "To be continued" moment
I will defend this movie till my death. Growing up we never had much money and thus gaming was not a hobby for me. We do had a dvd player and these movies were the ones I watched about a hundred times. Seeing them brings back so many memories.
If Venom looked Like the new one with the Spider-Man Symbol and didn’t die and was less evil and Eddie was John Cena it would be my favorite of the trilogy
Y’know. As much hate as Topher Grace gets for Eddie Brock, I think he did pretty great with what he was given at the time. Considering that this isn’t a role he’d normally portray.
Topher Grace was actually great casting when it comes to the themes and overarching characterization in the film. Brock/Venom is a foil/mirror to Peter/Spider-Man. Both are competing photographers, both have a “thing” for Gwen Stacy, and where Peter succeeds Brock fails. Where Peter is normally kind, humble, and awkward (outside of the Symbiote drama) Brock is arrogant, flamboyant, and a schmoozer, not to mention he plays dirty as seen when he fakes the Spidey pic. Granted, he isn’t as successful as he thinks he is and most of the shit he does comes off as well, awkward. But not endearing Peter awkward. Also, Peter with the Symbiote acts more like Brock with the flashiness and weird flirting. Now that’s why Topher Grace fits the bill. Brock’s ego is unearned. He’s a lesser man’s Parker. He also LOOKS like Tobey Maguire. The big blue eyes, slim built, and general awkwardness. Topher Grace could’ve just as easily played Peter Parker, given his other role in That 70s Show as Eric, the lovable, funny nerd who can’t seem to catch a break and who also happens to have the hots for the neighborhood redhead. Sound familiar? Spidey and Venom are mirrors. If the film wasn’t as over bloated and Venom/Brock had a separate film, I’m sure Topher Grace wouldn’t have gotten as much flack. He’s a good actor, the material could’ve been a bit better though, and I say this as someone who likes Spider-Man 3. Either way, it was really clever casting.
I absolutely love the attention to detail in the sound design. When the Symbiote has nearly consumed Eddie and the last few tendrils are attaching. The tendrils look and sound like sharp hands hooking themselves into his skin. Sounds very painful. Eddie's anguish is intensified by his transformation
Wow they did a great job with the Venom cgi. I like how when Peter rips it off, it looks like it’s desperately trying to cling together to stay bonded with Peter. But whenever it touches Eddie, it immediately leaves Peter. Because Venom feeds off of negative emotions, and Eddie has more negativity than Peter
Also I’m well aware that Venom actually feeds on adrenaline in the comics. But in this movie, it’s implied that negative emotions like hate and rage make Venom more powerful. Also I don’t think it’s explained in the Venom movie with Tom Hardy. In that movie, Venom just stays bonded with Eddie because he likes him I guess.
not to mention what Peter is doing is DAMN near impossible for the average human being to rip off venom just like that but because he has super strength that’s why he was able to do it but even still so he struggled!
@@BengalsxXx16l really enjoy SM3, but here's why this scene makes no sense. I get that this was taken from the animated show (and maybe the comics too, l havent read it) where Peter rips off Venom with the help of the church bell, but why does he have to rip it off AT ALL? In the show Venom was bonded with him, so he never took it off until the church bell scene, but in the movie Peter is shown taking it off MULTIPLE times, so why the hell did he need to rip it off here? Just go home, take it off like you always do and be rid of it.
@@KoolKeithProductions cause the symbiote knows Peter wants to get rid of it so it does not let go of him. Look when he first tries to remove it he goes for the part where the mask connects to the body and he tries to pull it off like a mask. The symbiote has a mind of its own it knows what Peter is doing since it it’s bonded to him.
@@BengalsxXx16 Peter literally struggled to rip the suit off and this is the same guy who stopped a train by himself. A normal human can never take it off
This scene exactly symbolizes how desires like Lust, Ego, Pride, Attachment and Greed are easy to get But once you’re familiar with it, its hard to get rid off Sam Raimi is hell of a director!
I see Venom in this movie as a metaphor for addiction, whether it be carnal vices, drug abuse, or simply getting hooked on power that isn’t earned and internally moderated.
This scene doesn’t get talked about enough. It is so atmospheric, the creepy church enhances the ominous feeling you get from Peter’s slow corruption by the symbiote. The score heightens the tension, and the sound of the church bells adds a whole new layer of gothic atmosphere. Coupled with the incredibly realistic CGI on Venom (especially for 2007!) really just makes this one of the best scenes in Spider-Man history.
For me, It's the near-religious portrayal of the symbiote as a kind of "Sin". I'm not Christian, but I assume the symbiote acts as a symbol for "evil deeds", and that granting oneself redemption requires incredible strain and perseverance. The tolling of the church bells give Peter a chance at redemption, literally and metaphorically.
@@byattwurns1553 as another person pointed out, its really poetic. Eddie went in there with such malevolent request and instantly got damned for it, while Peter did not ask for help or anything and still got one on the form of that bell, which purified him of his ''sins'', while on the same time Eddie got surrounded by his and embraced it
@@jinbe_of_the_sea4577 they both were at the same place, church. But they were there for different reasons, or... asked for different things. Peter wanted redemption, Brock wanted the opposite, he wanted revenge and asked God to do a terrible thing.
@Andrea De Luca Did he create you, the ground you walk on, the sky that covers you, the food that feeds you and the people you love and then has to appear before you and explain his plans to you as if he owed you something? you would even understand
@Andrea De Luca your thinking is terribly stupid, I will not sit and discuss anything with an uneducated atheist but you can read any holy book and you will get your answer. ICXC NIKA
Nobody talks about how good the CGI is for the Symbiote “goo” Edit 2024: this scene is still phenomenal, and I love how loyal this “ripping off the symbiote” scene is to the original comic where he also discards the symbiote
They had a practical suit that they had Tobey tear, aswell as some wires to pull on tobey’s face, then they used cgi to add the “symbiote” trying to hold the suit together
Peter tells Eddie to get religion. Eddie goes to church and instead of asking for forgiveness he straight up asks God to kill Peter. I never understood this scene as a kid... but now that I’m older I can see how dark this scene truly is.
youll get your rent when you fix this damn door! Yah in comics Eddie Brock was a devout Catholic which seems to hold true here in this movie too In comics though Brock was disgraced unwittingly by Spider-Man, for Eddie a reporter of the Daily Globe did an interview on a man who claimed to be a serial killer corrupt cop killer named Sin Eater His report earned him fame until Spider-Man captured the real Sin Eater, as the man which Eddie interviewed was a fraud seeking attention Eddie lost his job, his marriage, his way of life over it and blamed Spider-Man for it despite him not being directly causing Eddie‘s troubles He began hating Spider-Man and excerised in part of wanting to kill him, which made him a muscle bound Adonis But as a Catholic he knew it was wrong and sought suicide but again his faith stopped him So he went from one church to another seeking forgiveness for the sin of wanting suicide and that’s where the Venom Symbiote meet him All this is a tie to the movie as Eddie here made his own trouble by using fake means to get fame, and obsessing over Gwen Stacy And while Peter was a cause to bring him down, Eddie wanted him to die and used his faith as a means to pray and make it happen It all seems a dark parallel to the comic version of how Eddie in both versions have warped minds and men of faith
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@@comment3952 and even then, the religions that promote killing usualy don't promote vengence, especially personal vengence, like this guy did. They usually allow killing during wartime, and only if the other party is the aggressors.
When i was kid, i used to think he removed the Venom because Eddie asked god to kill Peter Parker, but now i realized that he wanted to remove because he hurt MJ.
This whole movie is literally the entire definition of depression, breaking free from it, and realizing that there are good people in your life to support you
Small detail I love: At 2:55 we see peter rid of the symbiote, accompanied by triumphant, tonal music, and then right afterwards we're back to the rhythmic, heavy music of the symbiote. Subtle!
This movie might be a mess. But the shot of Spider-Man in his black suit brooding in the rain is one of the most amazing images I’ve seen in any comic book movie, let alone a Spider-Man movie. I just love it, think I might draw and paint it soon. It’s iconic!
If they didn't push the director into having 3 villains in Spiderman 3 and saved Venom for a Spiderman 4...The Sam Raimi verse would be hollywood legend.
They just chose the villains for this film so poorly. The whole interaction between Peter, the symbiote and Harry was brilliant and more than enough to carry the film by itself. All they needed was a brief second villain for Peter and Harry to team up against at the end. Sandman isn't suitable because he's supposed to be a tragic character, not a monstrous supervillain. If they hadn't conclusively killed Norman Osborn off he could have 'returned from the dead ' like in the comics, which would be an even greater payoff if Harry were forced to fight him. Norman even accidentally killed Harry in Ultimate Spiderman so there's plenty of meat behind this concept. For the film continuity though, it makes more sense for it to be Connors/Lizard. He was experimenting with the symbiote throughout the film, what if by doing so he discovered the missing ingredient for his Lizard formula? They were quietly setting up Connors/Lizard since the first film, what better time to unleash the Lizard than this point in the narrative? A perfect threat for Peter and Harry to team up against. Venom was the most wasted of all though. Eddie shouldn't have bonded with the symbiote until the post-credits scene. That way Spiderman 4 can be all about Venom. Remember how Venom was introduced in the comics, when he covertly tried to kill Peter by pushing him in front of a subway train without revealing himself, since he doesn't trigger the spider-sense? Imagine how cool that would have been on screen. The start of the film could be building tension around this mystery. After that they can take it all kinds of ways. Remember Eddie faked those photos of black-suited spiderman doing evil deeds? Well now he HAS the black suit, he can IMPERSONATE Spiderman. How epic would that be? Peter would still have no idea who Venom is. Gah, so much wasted potential.
@@TKGriffiths they were planning on making mysterio the main villain for spiderman 4. Sam had no choice but to make sandman bad in order to make them team up at the end thanks to a stupid company called sony which deliberately pushed raimi to put venom in the film, and it was 5 days before the release of spiderman 4 that it was cancelled because raimi decided to give up and let sony take the reboot which was just awful with garfield.
Imagine if this was the final scene of Spiderman 3 and probably what would have been the hype for Spiderman 4... EDIT:it's 2020 and I want everyone to stay safe and stay strong! I am currently waiting for the "Spiderman 4" fan made film coming this year! But looks like we are gonna have to wait because of the corona virus! Stay safe everybody ❤🙏.
Ok so hear me out. I have had depression for about 10 years (2016-18 i still had depression) and it took me a year to realize it was actually very bad Depression when it came to 2020. I haven’t seen Spiderman 3 for a couple of years and that was my favorite Superhero Movie of all Time when I was a kid. And this scene at the Church, the Black Suit to me symbolized Depression, i was trapped inside it. I had Guilt. I thought I was responsible for my Father’s death, even though it wasn’t my fault that he had died in Afghanistan. But this scene cured me because it felt like I took off the suit after so many years of wearing it. I just want to thank this Scene, and most importantly I thank God. 🙏😁 Peter taking off the symbiote struggling, is like us struggling with our addictions such as Drugs and Lust. Like another commenter said, “This symbolism is powerful.” I couldn’t agree more.
I wouldn't go as far as to say it's a "cinematic masterpiece". This movie does have issues. However, it's not NEARLY as bad as people make it out to be and I too will never understand why it's so hated.
BaconLettuceTomato™ I like the first one, but 3 has aged much better. Most of the kids calling Homecoming awesome and this trash probably haven’t even watched this movie
@@sonicmania6753 well you dont always have to defend something even tho there not apart of the clip that we are watching. And either way sure but you do know that tom himself stated that he wants and I croute "I want to see a gay spidey in the near future". How can you respect him after that saying?
@Rohit Kuhmar Ik BP gets slack for its vfx but in all fairness the production was rushed. The artists weren't done at all by the time we saw the film. That's on Marvel. And I think they were taking artists from BP to work on Infinity War instead but I could be wrong
This is definitely one of the better scenes in the movie, but I can't help but find the thought of Peter swinging through New York naked after this hilarious.
@@KuueenKumi Damn skippy. Spider-Man Chapters 3 versus 07 "Those who ask of me to kill a man. Thus. I refuse and The Devil shall listen and giveth thee superpowers. I don't kill. Amen."
@James Davis This people are shitting on Sam Raimi for this movie’s ”failure”, but it was Sony that tried to give fans what they wanted, even though Raimi didn’t want to feature Venom because he didn’t know what to do with him, or how he fully worked as a character. That’s why the Green Goblin, Dr. Octopus and Sandman were so well portrayed. The director knew what to do with them.
I love how all the comments are only 2-3 yrs old while this was uploaded around 7 years ago. This shows that many of us understood the depth of this scene after we grew up.
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Even though Spiderman 3 wasn't originally supposed to have Venom, I'm still shocked at how good the symbiote looks in this film. 14 years later and this still looks absolutely gorgeous.
I am one of those who actually like that Venom was included.
the symbiote of this movie is beautiful! Way better than that slimy ball we got in Venom (2018)
Actually I don't like this venom at all, but raimi black suit is the most badass suit for spidey imo.
Not to mention just how fucking horrifying the transformation Eddie went through was.
@@enzoviana501 the new venom is cringe
Something occurred to me after watching this scene again. Right after that small piece of the symbiote touched Eddie’s jacket, the rest of it basically gives up on Peter and goes straight for Eddie. Like it had a taste of someone with sweet murderous hate and and preferred it over the stale bland guilt. Love little touches like this!
That’s cool
99th like also lmao
All the times that I've watched this movie and I never even noticed that, good observation!
Dang dude
Tasted someone who hated peter, just as the symbiote did by being rejected by him
Tobey’s Spiderman was such a beast that he had villains praying for his death 💀
@Wasa Few no peter is good person it
was bully maguier
The black suit you mean lol
Its not Spider-Man.. Its Bully Maguire, he's too OP
he literally had people praying on his downfall
Peter: “You want forgiveness? Get religion”
[Eddie Brock literally goes to church]
A couple key symbolic things I noticed, cause this scene is absolutely stuffed with details:
-Eddie actually goes to church after Peter tells him "You want forgiveness? Get religion", but its for the opposite of forgiveness
-The shot of Eddie entering the church is filmed with his reflection upside down in the holy water, signifying his life turning upside down
-Eddie quite literally hears a bell when he asks for Peter's death, which brings him to where he gets the power to do so
-Peter is up on high, getting rid of the evil (venom), while Eddie is down low asking for a bad deed and gets consumed by the evil
-The church being a place people go to repent is fittingly the setting for Peter's repentance, but its the opposite for Eddie because he is full of hatred and desire to sin
Nice observation!
Oh so Peter is trying to forgive himself for what he has done because of the symbiote and Eddie is literally doing the wrong thing.
@@FireBen31, Eddie asked God to kill Peter is not a good choice. WWJD🙏🕊
Devils don't come from underground. They come from the sky.
Badass Observation
It took me thirteen years to realize the duality at play in this scene:
When Peter is at his lowest point, he recognizes what he's done and takes steps to make things right.
When Eddie is at his lowest point, he refuses to accept what he's done and wants to hurt other people.
Peter goes to a church to take the first steps to redemption and ultimately gets it.
Eddie goes to a church seeking revenge and is ultimately destroyed.
The symbiote corrupted Peter, but because he is, at his core, a good person, he managed to break free.
Because Eddie is, at his core, is a selfish, cruel person, the symbiote utterly corrupted him and led to his death.
Spider-Man 3 is a lot smarter than many people think.
I really love how they portray Peter tried to fight against the evil that corrupted him while Eddie accept the new power that came from the evil as a way to get revenge
Spider-Man 3 isn't necesarily a bad movie, it's just..... unfocused is what I'd call it. It's been said before but they tried to juggle too many plots at the same time, Venom, Harry as the second Green Goblin and Sandman all crammed in 2 and a half hours. (Wow, that's actually longer than expected.)
Had they just focused on only adapting the Black Suit/Venom Saga, I imagine it could've been the best in the trilogy. Or maybe even franchise, as there would've been a Spider-Man 4 and maybe 5 in which they could've done the other two stories. They could've explored where the symbiote came from, (I don't think it ever happens in the movie, does it? I vaguely recall a scene where Peter has the symbiote examined by Dr. Connors but that might not be this movie.) How the city responded to their hero suddenly wearing all-black, how even before the symbiote, Eddie got screwed over by Peter, even if unintentionally. I think the Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon did that last thing very well.
@@LexCrafttoons Its in this movie. Doctor Connors only really explains that it needed a host to bind with and that he wonders where Peter got it from. Also hi,,
Actually no.
The symbiote didn't corrupt Spiderman. Spiderman corrupted the symbiote.
You have to understand. Symbiotes, in nature, are creatures that require another species to survive, but also offer something in return. A remora is a type of symbiote, for example - it's a fish that latches onto the bellies of sharks, and eats the parasites in their skin. The shark has to lug this smaller fish around for a bit, but it's worth it because the remora keeps it healthy. And it's no coincidence that Marvel chose to give the name 'symbiote' to the alien that infected Peter and Eddie.
The Venom Symbiote is an alien. It does not understand human morality. When it bonded with Peter, it's first exposure to the human way of thinking and interacting was entirely through Peter's eyes. The thing is, Peter Parker isn't a normal human. He's a mess. He lives two lives - one where he is a hero who goes around saving the city, and the other where he is a reclusive nerd who is bullied and mocked on a regular basis. He allows himself to be bullied and mocked because he doesn't want to abuse his powers or draw attention to himself, but at the same time he resents the way he is treated. At the same time he also takes pride in his role as a hero, but he resents how certain parts of the city are determined to slander him by portraying him as a villain or a dangerous vigilante.
So the symbiote looks at this and is confused. It doesn't make sense. But it's still a symbiote, and since Peter is keeping it alive, it wants to help Peter in return. So it tries to find ways to make Peter more successful and happy. Unfortunately, a lot of the successful and happy people in Peter's life and the city as a whole are assholes, so there aren't many positive examples to go off of. The symbiote sees all these confident, assertive dickbags going through life finding success, love, and money, and decides that the best way for Peter to succeed is to come out of his shell, stop being modest, and emulate them. It doesn't understand how this behaviour is immoral or obnoxious - it assumes that it's just the norm for humans.
Spiderman eventually notices the effect the symbiote is having on him, and decides he doesn't want it. So, he tries to kill it. And how does he try to kill it? In the most painful way possible - exposing it to its primary weakness. Look at it from the symbiote's perspective: you've spent weeks trying to bond with this guy and help him get out of a dark period of his life, and in return he tries to torture you to death in the most painful way possible for you.
Now let's look at Eddie. Eddie in the movie is depicted as far more malicious than he was in the comics. Comic Eddie was actually a good, decent guy, until Spiderman indirectly and unintentionally screwed his life over. He was publicly humiliated, he lost his job, and he lost his girlfriend. In the comics, Eddie didn't go to that church to ask God to kill Peter Parker - he went there to beg forgiveness and then kill himself. It's possible he was planning to kill himself in the movie, too.
And this is where Eddie and the Venom Symbiote bond; when both are at their absolute lowest points. Venom has just been betrayed and tortured by Spiderman, while Eddie no longer has a reason to live and thinks Spiderman is at least partially responsible for the state he is in. When they merge, it's not as simple as "the symbiote corrupted Eddie." They corrupted each other. Their shared hatred of Spiderman made them obsessed with killing him, and their shared victim complex caused them both to become selfish and out for themselves. That, and the fact that the Venom Symbiote still felt it was its duty to help its host, and one of the main things which prevented Eddie from being happy was the resentment he held toward Peter. So by the Symbiote's logic, the best way to help Eddie is to kill Peter Parker so that Eddie can move on with his life.
TL;DR: The Symbiote is neither corrupting nor malicious. It was actually trying to help Peter, but it didn't understand humans so it accidentally made things worse. Peter, not understanding the Symbiote's intentions, tried to torture it to death. The Symbiote, feeling vengeful and betrayed, bonded with Eddie, who was in a state of intense depression and anger. Neither Eddie nor the Symbiote were in a state where they could healthily process what they were feeling or help each other overcome it, so instead they both became even more toxic - more Venomous, you could say.
In the end, it was humanity which corrupted the Symbiote - not the other way around.
@@Former_Halo_Fan dang bro you spent like 7 minutes on that comment lol but good point of view
Everyone's talking about Eddie's prayer. All I can think about is how Peter had to web swing back to his apartment, naked in the rain without anyone seeing him.
It was not so easy.
He can make clothes from his web.
@@devoidsharlo9176 True.
@Fuck RUclips It's better than being freezing cold.
@Fuck RUclips What if he needed to wax that day?
The fact that Eddie really took the advice of him seriously and went to church is hilarious
Straight up told God to kill peter
I mean in the comics he's a catholic and a man of god
so did Spider-Man lol
obviously stolen when the real comment is right next to yours
@@Vorticough lol true.
I love how Raimi uses the black suit to tackle adult themes like addiction in a way that kids or young adults could understand. Most notably stuff like lust, substance abuse, greed, pride, anger, etc. And have an arc dedicated to overcoming it and how it’s not easy.
Just like with all unhealthy addictions it starts off feeling good and you think you have control of it but then eventually you lose yourself without realizing it and it affects every area of your life including the people you care about and you become an an entirely different person. Once you acknowledge you have a problem and need to change it’s not easy to break. I don’t think Raimi got enough credit for it back in the day but I’m glad a lot of people are realizing it now.
Your comment is well said.
As like in their final fight Peter said: "I know what it feels like... The power, everything... But you lose yourself to it, let it go..."
What’s your point
@@hannahlarocco4699 if you read my comment you would know what my point is. I was pointing out how I liked how Sam Raimi used the black suit to tackle themes like addiction and substance abuse in a way kids could understand. Peter displayed all signs of an addict in this movie when used the black suit which as a result he hurt the people closest to him which is why he knew he was far gone and hadn’t realized it until it was too late and knew he had to let it go.
@@hannahlarocco4699 If you still don’t get the point from this well detailed comment, then you need to work on your reading comprehension skills.
All fan rage and issues aside, EVERYTHING about this scene
-The music
-The cinematography
-The pacing
-Visuals
-sound design
-Tobey Maguire’s physical acting
- Topher Grace’s desperation
All of it is amazing.
I truly feel like Spider-Man 3 is a movie made of individual scenes, rather than a movie made of a solid/functional narrative
Exactly man
Exactly what I think! This movie has so many great scenes, but altogether it’s just a mess
well said
True
It just shows how skilled Raimi was. He was forced into making an overcrowded narrative but he still manages to do the best he can.
Considering how Venom was literally forced into the movie by Sony, Raimi still did an excellent job with the story arc and everything.
If they had just kept sandman as the primary villain, had goblin as a villain turned anti hero without venom in the picture, It would have been a better narrative. Albeit not a bad movie by any stretch of the imagination
@@Therighthanddon Agreed.
But I can't deny it, without Venom, we would never have this legendary scene and more importantly...
The dark suit theme!
@@ShFred very true. That just goes to show how talented Sam raimi as a director. Even when he is forced to include elements that he believes don’t belong he still makes a good run of it
@@ShFred Some people say the movie should've ended here and Spider-Man 4 would've then started off from that.
@@ShFred they should have only had the black suit in it then have venom for the 4th movie
For a director who don't want Venom initially, he sure blend the theme of forgiveness and hate well along with Sandman
To this day I think Sandman was the best thing in the third movie. The actor really portrayed a very relatable Flint Marko to the point they literally copied it to the Spiderman 2 game. Even the speech mannerisms, slow, naive almost dumb like but good hearted spirit.
They also did a theme song score for the Sandman that also gave me goosebumps, very beautiful.
The symbiote in this movie really embodies anger, spite, vengeance, and violence. When Peter gets it, he wants to get revenge on Sandman for killing his uncle. But after the rest of the film happens and Peter realizes his mistake, he rejects the symbiote and makes himself better, and is even able to forgive Sandman for his mistake.
Eddie, on the other hand, just points figures whenever he's at his lowest point. When Peter gets him fired, he wants revenge, and the symbiote lands on him, and he fully embraces that and never learns to forgive.
Never say Sam can’t work with what he’s given.
I like to think this is originally where the movie was supposed to end and Spider-Man 4 was supposed to pick up immediately after this
Peter trying to get rid of venom is EXACTLY how addiction feels.
Wow this was powerful..
My dude this comment hit me very deeply cause I’m a recovering addict and I felt that.. now when I watch this scene I’ll remember what you said
I needed to hear that
More truth than one will ever know.
When I'm top of a church hitting a bell repeatedly to get rid of my addiction and my addictions falls on someone who prayed to God for my death and I fall unconscious
Eddie asked God to kill Peter. God responds by killing the evil in Peter and that evil fell to Eddie as punishment. This is probably one of my favorite scenes in a movie.
Not how God works
@@saint8350 ok but its a joke
@@saint8350 you don't know how God does his work. Nobody does.
Edit: if you're going to make an argument with me, don't. The issue (that wouldn't be here if someone knows, understands and accepts that different countries have differing beliefs) has been resolved.
@@boymancinder2000 spiritually blind people like you won't see or understand spiritual things.
@@saint8350 mhm. If you're not "spiritually blind", as you put it, how does God works then? Please enlighten this mind and body of mine that grew out of touch light! Seriously though, since you had the audacity to call me spiritually blind, I expect that you aren't. Now tell me how God works.
Hearing Tobey’s screams of struggle and pain always sent chills through my body as a little a kid and still does to this day
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The Symbiote was APART of him.
You know how painful ripping a band-aid off is? Imagine that but 100x worse all around your body
@@nazimahdollip-abdoollah4587 in the 1994 spiderman tv series, it was painful to take off the symbiote too.
@@nazimahdollip-abdoollah4587 But Spidey was finding it painful while the bell was ringing. Obviously since it was a kids cartoon the timespan was shortened
No matter what, this version of him getting the Symbiote off of him is the best.
The way how the suit keeps trying to reconnect itself whenever he tries ripping it off is so satisfying to watch. As much as I love Insomniac's version of the black suit, Sam Raimi really nailed the Symbiote removal scene.
I love how it kinda looks like little hands clinging to him
It’s genius but creepy like a little demon trying to grab him
He literally prayed on a man’s downfall he is more devious that Tom Hardy Venom imagine just how deranged and outright petty you have to be to pray on your enemies downfall
@@myarmsrgone me too i love seeing his muscles under the suit and its so satisfying to see him getting off the symbiote. its perfect.
The shot and music at 0:30 when he is sitting like this, in black costume and then not just jumping, but falling... oh... just iconic... a masterpiece
He falls but he uses his web. Look closely.
@@LauSymphonicMetal yo WTF I just now saw that
i kinda like this movie myself, but man you people just try to find every little thing to like about this and call it a masterpiece
@@its1899 Well it is a great shot, tbh anything with the black suit in this movie is great
@@its1899 When they released the poster that had him in the black suit sitting at the top of the church looking down was mad fire and everyone back then was going insane the shit was like avengers endgame
I just realized Peter has super strength, imagine a regular human trying to rip off the venom suit
He was able to do it with the help of the soundshocks of the large bell that makes the symbiote weak... 😉
@@mdsaad8711 even with the sounds of the bell you wouldn't be able to take it off
@@jimmy6839 yes you would. That was the point of what Peter was doing to Eddie around the end of the movie he used venom weakness to remove the suit from Eddie
@@thekingofball2341 true point but eddie did not take it off by himself peter helped him
This is the spiderman that stopped a whole train lol
Eddie: I’m sitting here humbled and humiliated.
Jesus: Gonna cry?
😂😂😂😭😭😭
LMAO
😂😂
Lmao underrated
@@mindhalf135 AMONG US 🥶🥶😳
The metaphorical justice in this scene is just awesome writing. Eddie turns to God and dares to ask him to strike Peter down with anger and vengeance, so God punishes Eddie instead. Beautiful scene.
One detail I never noticed as a kid is that Eddie transformed into Venom while on an image of a cross.
God killed the evil in Peter so he could cleanse himself of the suit, while also forcing Eddie's evil out to show just how much of a monster he is
Peter taking off the symbiote is exactly how it feels to take off a wet shirt
ITS HARD AS HELL 😂
Edit (2022): *I regret commenting this because of the comments below. 💀*
@@Brad02526 ikr
Well now we know what a symbiote feels like 😂😂
More like an elastic one-piece that fits you exactly
This is accurate af
I un-ironically love this scene. It’s my favorite interpretation of Peter getting rid of the suit. The visuals and sound design make it look like he’s trying to peel off a layer of skin with how well they’ve bonded. Then the fact he becomes more successful when the suit gets a taste of Eddy leaves you wondering if Peter succeeded, or if the symbiote gave up the fight. It’s so good for so many reasons. I un-apologetically love this film.
There's nothing bad about this scene. There's no need to use the word 'in-ironic' that's not even a real word.
@@ashlirabid9614 Indeed “in-ironic” isn’t a real word. “Unironically” however (I mistakingly put a hyphen in it, so you got me there) is indeed a real word. You can Google it. Maybe we can just both agree this scene is great instead of nitpicking each other’s comments though 😁
@@BurningBushProductions if i had a nickel for everytime you used "un", I'd have 2 nickels, which isn't a lot but its weird that it happened twice
@@axyspianostudio That’s pretty unbelievable! 😂
Great analysis! I truly think it was a little bit of both. I think Venom gave up on Peter not just because he got a taste of Eddie, but I think the suit maybe sensed that Peter would rather die with the suit than be controlled by it. Kind of like in the Web of Shadow Comic
The way Eddie looks up and does that evil smile as Venom consumes him is so freaking scary, gives me goosebumps every time and I love it.
3:16 Me too.
It's like at first he was scared, then he starts to like it
It doesn't even make sense
Do you scares you
@@ProtagonisTeneTit does, the movie directly states that the symbiote feeds off its host’s negative emotions and makes them feel more confident and powerful, Eddie was scared at first because a weird alien latex was falling on him and taking over his body, but he was at his lowest point in life so all the negativity in him made the symbiote stronger and they started to bond immediately based on their shared hate of the same person (Peter/spidey). That’s why he smiles, it feels good and he’s accepting it.
This is one of my favourite scenes ever. Even the CGI! Just the ruthlessness of him ripping it off but the Symbiote’s desperation to stay on him so it tries recovering was so fascinating!
& thanks god that Bell noises is the cure for Peter to remove the symbiote
@@andreplayboi22moneymakerI feel like he could've done it either way it would just take a while
@@cobraverse08 I know
Fun fact: In an interview, this is actually how the movie was going to end. In the original 3 script when Sony first asked for venom, Raimi was gonna do just the Black Suit storyline and Sandman as the only villain. When peter gets his suit off and Eddie changed into Venom, he wasn't going to be shown. The transformation would cut away in the final moments and the audience wouldn't see what he truly looked like, and Venom would escape and not be seen at all for the rest of the movie. And in 4 he was going to be brought back as the main villain. But Sony said "No, we want venom now".
Magnus Malo damn I got pissed while reading this XD, fuck Sony
Coos
Its their fault for being so desperate
Sony is a b****
@@Dirandra1506 that's why Sony failed
The irony of this scene is that evil Peter Parker "dies" as Eddie asked for. Peter is reborn as his true self.
Hey, that actually makes senses!
Yeah but Eddie was gonna try and scoop Peter
Your comment is far better than those stupid retarded shitty gag comment "How did he web swing naked"
@@daigonmocs0785 What do you mean "scoop"?
We could say that Peter freed himself from sin, from the evil that was in him, that's why it took him so long to get rid of the suit. In addition, he had already committed many evils, so it would be increasingly difficult to get rid of him.
We could also conjecture that Eddie fell into a very great evil and that is why Venom caught him.
The fact that spiderman is strong as hell yet struggling to rip the symbiot from his body just make this scene 10x better.
It’s pretty much stuck to his skeleton so it would take a massive amount of force to remove it.
The only way a normal human could remove it is with the strongest machine removal and vybrations ever
Actcully the bell helped him right?
@@DarrenJohansenLesmana Yes. I’m pretty sure that was part of what led to Peter figuring out that the symbiote hates loud noises in the climax.
@@Rizzy-Bizzy20wdym stuck to his skeleton when he could just take the suit off
It's easy to forget, but Peter is actually inhumanly strong and could punch the skeleton out of you if he so desired.
For him to struggle with the symbiote and needing to exploit it's weakness to sound to get it off is a testament to the symbiote's own alien endurance.
Right? A regular human has no hope of getting it off if he had such a hard time
Its also metaphorical, the sins and desires the power gave him are hard to get rid of once you get a taste
0:28 arguably the most iconic superhero pose...
This frame alone speaks so many volumes you can tell the disgust and disappointment in himself
It definitely holds fallen superhero protects the good vibe like the one batman always has around him
Indeed
No the most iconic but one of the best and coolest looking poses Spider-Man has done.
Yh it actually is. Just him sat there looking at himself feeling disgusted and the music and the rain it all made it into a amazing scene
This is the most overhated movie of all time, and you cannot convince me otherwise. This scene sends chills down my spine. I can’t believe people have the nerve to say Tobey wasn’t a good actor. He is moving and screaming like he’s fighting for his life. 1:35 to the end is bafflingly good.
This should have been the ending to Spider-Man 3, and S4 could have been 2 and a half hours of straight up Tobey vs Venom.
I feel like if this movie came out right now it would be praised. I mean it's better than most mcu movies right now
@@huangdynasty8536 There’s problems with it, like for instance I can’t stand Mary Jane’s character. And Peter kissing Gwen upside down was really out of nowhere and unnecessary. And they definitely didn’t give enough development time to Venom before him and Peter fought. But dude, there are so many moments in this movie that completely overshadow the bad parts. Black Suit vs Sandman, Black Suit vs Harry, this scene, Peter and Harry vs Sandman and Venom, the scene where Peter tells May he’s going to propose to MJ, etc. I don’t wanna type too much but yeah, this movie holds a special place in my heart lol
@@TylerG13 also, the first look at the black suit which is amazing
@@TylerG13 TBH, I’d argue that MJ was brilliant and Peter kissing Gwen made sense. Peter was so full of himself in the first act of the movie (hell he regains himself at the end of the 2nd act). He couldn’t even help MJ when she needed his comfort, lied to Harry, kissed Gwen (as you know), and was willing to kill Flint Marko (the symbiote is what basically kicked him off into gear). Then by the end of the movie after he realises how much of an arrogant runt he’s been, he tries owning up for his mistakes and finally becomes the Peter we all know. The whole reason Peter was evil with the symbiote was because it brought out the anger, vengeance, and darkness form within his heart that was slowly built up through the first half of the film and only reached its lowest point when Peter discovered Sandman killed his uncle instead of Dennis. But yeah, we can both agree that Venom could’ve used some more time in the oven.
Honestly,story wise...Spider-Man 3 is the best of them all...it didn't deserve the hate it got.
I was listening to an audio book on the novelization of this movie. And in this particular scene, I read that everytime Peter was losing the will to rip the suit off his body, he replayed the image of him hitting Mary Jane in his head to force himself to keep going until the suit was off him completely.
Spider-Man's willpower has got to be the strongest in fiction period.
Cool
him and batman
Imagine Spider-Man with a green lantern corps ring (I know they’re different comic universes)
I highly doubt in fiction period man. There's thousands of characters out there.
@@Marvelfanatic3658 ya maybe not but Peter’s *definitely* up there
1:48 This moment is so well done, for the first time on the movie we finally saw the real monster behind the suit.
I liked that part too
The fact that Eddie was able to recognize peter from that distance is hilarious.
Lmao i never realize that
Probably the way he was screaming
Also why wouldn’t he just swing up there and kill him now that he is Venom and Peter is laying there weak af ? 😂
@@Krakayoa very true man LMAO.
@@Krakayoa That is an... interesting point.
If Peter had more time with suit , we would had more Bully Maguire memes
Damn 😭
If only he didn't care about himself being a jerk...
Meme suit
shut the fck up
@@DekaNovelist Aw, look at little Tom fan girl. Gonna cry?
Imagine the movie ended like this prior to Spider-Man 4, giving Venom a whole new movie to be the main villain.
might cry thinking about that
I Don't think it would since Sam rami knew Nothing about Venom so I doubt he was ever put him in and Vulture was next one
Yeah the movie had really good plot points but they were rushed, if they were divided into 2 movies they would had been a masterpiece
I think he would become the villain in spiderman 5
I think that was initially the plan. Sandman got the main role, with the black suit being a major plot point. Then at the end, after peter realized whats happening, this scene comes up, then next movie.
Which makes a lot of sense considering how we first see venom. That lunge into the screen is a classic "To be continued" moment
I will defend this movie till my death.
Growing up we never had much money and thus gaming was not a hobby for me. We do had a dvd player and these movies were the ones I watched about a hundred times. Seeing them brings back so many memories.
Hey. I hope you’re doing ok out there.
Eddie: “I want you to kill Peter Parker.”
Jesus: “Son, that’s not how I roll?”
@@bethcail976 wow so edgy
@@bethcail976 oooooo u sO cOoL yUo
DoNt fOlLoW tHe NoRm
@@bethcail976
My fingernails are also painted black💅
This reply section 🤣🤣🤣
@Edward Garcia I mean, God has historically killed millions of people. If you like to believe that nonesense, that is.
So many people hated this movie but I absolutely loved it, one of my favorite childhood movies.
If Venom looked Like the new one with the Spider-Man Symbol and didn’t die and was less evil and Eddie was John Cena it would be my favorite of the trilogy
@@jliong128 yeah I understand that 100% but me being a kid none of that mattered to me i was just happy to see the black suit lol.
Same!
@@DomDOTgaming I get that Venom was my only problem with the movie it would probably be my favorite out i oh f the trilogy
@@jliong128 But have you ever thought, no Spider-Man movie with Venom?
Y’know. As much hate as Topher Grace gets for Eddie Brock, I think he did pretty great with what he was given at the time. Considering that this isn’t a role he’d normally portray.
Eric Forman
@@thekeeperofpromise 🤣
Topher Grace was actually great casting when it comes to the themes and overarching characterization in the film.
Brock/Venom is a foil/mirror to Peter/Spider-Man. Both are competing photographers, both have a “thing” for Gwen Stacy, and where Peter succeeds Brock fails. Where Peter is normally kind, humble, and awkward (outside of the Symbiote drama) Brock is arrogant, flamboyant, and a schmoozer, not to mention he plays dirty as seen when he fakes the Spidey pic. Granted, he isn’t as successful as he thinks he is and most of the shit he does comes off as well, awkward. But not endearing Peter awkward. Also, Peter with the Symbiote acts more like Brock with the flashiness and weird flirting.
Now that’s why Topher Grace fits the bill. Brock’s ego is unearned. He’s a lesser man’s Parker. He also LOOKS like Tobey Maguire. The big blue eyes, slim built, and general awkwardness. Topher Grace could’ve just as easily played Peter Parker, given his other role in That 70s Show as Eric, the lovable, funny nerd who can’t seem to catch a break and who also happens to have the hots for the neighborhood redhead. Sound familiar?
Spidey and Venom are mirrors. If the film wasn’t as over bloated and Venom/Brock had a separate film, I’m sure Topher Grace wouldn’t have gotten as much flack. He’s a good actor, the material could’ve been a bit better though, and I say this as someone who likes Spider-Man 3.
Either way, it was really clever casting.
@@jackierosas9593 Also I think as the first poster showed, people probably could only see him as Eric Forman back then
Why does people hate him? I mean, he’s not Tom Hardy but he definitely did a good job considering Raimi didn’t really gave him that much to work with
I absolutely love the attention to detail in the sound design. When the Symbiote has nearly consumed Eddie and the last few tendrils are attaching. The tendrils look and sound like sharp hands hooking themselves into his skin. Sounds very painful. Eddie's anguish is intensified by his transformation
Literally, like you can hear everything attaching with such anger from being rejected by Peter so it’s attaching so aggressively. It’s perfect
What song is in this one?
I want to be on Eddie's place
2007: "This is garbage"
2021: "This is cinema. Absolute masterpiece!"
Nobody said it was garbage
@@karjathebard2401 Nobody but the critiques.
@@akramdinulakbar9924 basically nobody
Some superficial fans do find this garbage at the time. I like it and still do
It is the weakest out of the trilogy, the problem however with this movie is the casting (especially venom)
Wow they did a great job with the Venom cgi. I like how when Peter rips it off, it looks like it’s desperately trying to cling together to stay bonded with Peter. But whenever it touches Eddie, it immediately leaves Peter. Because Venom feeds off of negative emotions, and Eddie has more negativity than Peter
Also I’m well aware that Venom actually feeds on adrenaline in the comics. But in this movie, it’s implied that negative emotions like hate and rage make Venom more powerful. Also I don’t think it’s explained in the Venom movie with Tom Hardy. In that movie, Venom just stays bonded with Eddie because he likes him I guess.
not to mention what Peter is doing is DAMN near impossible for the average human being to rip off venom just like that but because he has super strength that’s why he was able to do it but even still so he struggled!
@@BengalsxXx16l really enjoy SM3, but here's why this scene makes no sense. I get that this was taken from the animated show (and maybe the comics too, l havent read it) where Peter rips off Venom with the help of the church bell, but why does he have to rip it off AT ALL? In the show Venom was bonded with him, so he never took it off until the church bell scene, but in the movie Peter is shown taking it off MULTIPLE times, so why the hell did he need to rip it off here? Just go home, take it off like you always do and be rid of it.
@@KoolKeithProductions cause the symbiote knows Peter wants to get rid of it so it does not let go of him. Look when he first tries to remove it he goes for the part where the mask connects to the body and he tries to pull it off like a mask. The symbiote has a mind of its own it knows what Peter is doing since it it’s bonded to him.
@@BengalsxXx16 Peter literally struggled to rip the suit off and this is the same guy who stopped a train by himself. A normal human can never take it off
Is it me or did everyone just realise that when Peter said to Eddie “You want forgiveness, get religion!” He actually went to church!
Just know I did
Yeah I think everyone did
Why people hate this movie
@@Faoijhfr4rsgioi cause of religion?
Except, Eddie wasn't asking for forgiveness. He wanted death to a nemesis.
Even tho Harry does a good job being Venom, Eddie Brock is the one and TRUE Venom. He makes Venom act more vicious and scarier.
Yeah I agree but I feel that Eddie Brock can still be venom in that universe because not all the simbiotes were extinguished
I hope eddie will appears on venom dlc to fight carnage😂
Harry as Venom was pretty scary and vicious
This scene exactly symbolizes how desires like Lust, Ego, Pride, Attachment and Greed are easy to get
But once you’re familiar with it, its hard to get rid off
Sam Raimi is hell of a director!
Absolutly , even with a character he didn't want to put in the movie he still did a good job .
It reminds me of removing my attachments to my ex
@@coldwater9540 you’re not alone bro
I’ve been through that 🥺
I see Venom in this movie as a metaphor for addiction, whether it be carnal vices, drug abuse, or simply getting hooked on power that isn’t earned and internally moderated.
Wow! Great analysis!
This scene doesn’t get talked about enough. It is so atmospheric, the creepy church enhances the ominous feeling you get from Peter’s slow corruption by the symbiote. The score heightens the tension, and the sound of the church bells adds a whole new layer of gothic atmosphere. Coupled with the incredibly realistic CGI on Venom (especially for 2007!) really just makes this one of the best scenes in Spider-Man history.
For me, It's the near-religious portrayal of the symbiote as a kind of "Sin".
I'm not Christian, but I assume the symbiote acts as a symbol for "evil deeds", and that granting oneself redemption requires incredible strain and perseverance. The tolling of the church bells give Peter a chance at redemption, literally and metaphorically.
@@byattwurns1553 as another person pointed out, its really poetic. Eddie went in there with such malevolent request and instantly got damned for it, while Peter did not ask for help or anything and still got one on the form of that bell, which purified him of his ''sins'', while on the same time Eddie got surrounded by his and embraced it
@@jinbe_of_the_sea4577 they both were at the same place, church. But they were there for different reasons, or... asked for different things. Peter wanted redemption, Brock wanted the opposite, he wanted revenge and asked God to do a terrible thing.
@@byattwurns1553Yes exactly, and Brock gets "punished" with venom right after he asks god to kill a human
@@byattwurns1553the symbiote in this movie is a symbol for a lot of things, namely addiction and the desire for revenge
He prayed to god to kill, and instead the devil reached out to him.
This scene is brilliant.
This movie's way to underated people don't get the bigger picture
Nicholas Chen that’s deep
Damn!
No God said do it yourself and gave him venom
Kali Warner Very True. because god never kills people. And that's Eddie Didn't even know.
Peter lying in the clock tower naked, symbolizing his rebirth as a better man and his rejection of the Symbiote's evil is so fucking cool.
Eddie: “I want you to kill Peter Parker.”
Jesus: “Yeahhh… You’ve never read the Bible have you?”
@Andrea De Luca Jesus: Yeah, yeah lives that my father gave and created and took for a purpose far greater than your human mind could understand ;)
@Andrea De Luca God's human creation wanting him to appear before his child and explain his intentions as if he somehow owed you something
@Andrea De Luca Did he create you, the ground you walk on, the sky that covers you, the food that feeds you and the people you love and then has to appear before you and explain his plans to you as if he owed you something? you would even understand
@Andrea De Luca ;)
@Andrea De Luca your thinking is terribly stupid, I will not sit and discuss anything with an uneducated atheist but you can read any holy book and you will get your answer. ICXC NIKA
Nobody talks about how good the CGI is for the Symbiote “goo”
Edit 2024: this scene is still phenomenal, and I love how loyal this “ripping off the symbiote” scene is to the original comic where he also discards the symbiote
Howling Burd19 damn straight, it’s so good
Uv cxgl
Great CGI
The effects in this movie were phenomenal
It’s incredibly satisfying.
12 years and still one of my favorite Spider-Man films.....
Mine too
This IS my favorite movie
Agent 2514 mine to
But then we wouldn't have the legendary emo parker
Agent 2514 I used to like his portrayal until this film
The scream at 2:31 still gives me chills.
i love that scene. its perfect.
Eddie really took the "If you want forgiveness, get religion" from Peter to heart.
Get, not Fine
@@CorectAnimation Find not fine
But the problem is, he stopped seeking forgiveness on both ends.
@@Sleepai Sorry, Find:))))
@@Sleepai It’s not find its get
I still have no idea how they manged to make the suit tearing scene, it's just magnificent!!
They had a practical suit that they had Tobey tear, aswell as some wires to pull on tobey’s face, then they used cgi to add the “symbiote” trying to hold the suit together
@@mckinnellfamilytrio5752 WOW, Raimi sure did a hell of a troligy!!
《TheLastRider》 yeah!
@@kathyturtle1961 You mean the Spiderman triology? Bro that was my childhood ofc i loved it xD
I loykey thought this was Dream lol
Peter Parker: "Want Forgiveness? Get Religion"
Eddie: *Goes to Church
😂😂and then has the nerve to ask God to kill someone
AsphaltKing thumbnail reminds me of when you get slime on yourself and it just keep sticking on you
*Starts talking to statue* XD
King 805 god gave him Venom to kill peter that’s what he asked for
You’ll get religion when you FIX THIS DAMN DOOR!
Eddie: I'm sitting here humbled and humiliated..
God: Gonna cry?
HAHA
Jesus: I missed the part where that's my problem
Lmao
God: ima put some dirt in your eye
@@joefranco6047 instead he got some parasitic alien in his mouth
Peter tells Eddie to get religion. Eddie goes to church and instead of asking for forgiveness he straight up asks God to kill Peter.
I never understood this scene as a kid... but now that I’m older I can see how dark this scene truly is.
youll get your rent when you fix this damn door! Yah in comics Eddie Brock was a devout Catholic which seems to hold true here in this movie too
In comics though Brock was disgraced unwittingly by Spider-Man, for Eddie a reporter of the Daily Globe did an interview on a man who claimed to be a serial killer corrupt cop killer named Sin Eater
His report earned him fame until Spider-Man captured the real Sin Eater, as the man which Eddie interviewed was a fraud seeking attention
Eddie lost his job, his marriage, his way of life over it and blamed Spider-Man for it despite him not being directly causing Eddie‘s troubles
He began hating Spider-Man and excerised in part of wanting to kill him, which made him a muscle bound Adonis
But as a Catholic he knew it was wrong and sought suicide but again his faith stopped him
So he went from one church to another seeking forgiveness for the sin of wanting suicide and that’s where the Venom Symbiote meet him
All this is a tie to the movie as Eddie here made his own trouble by using fake means to get fame, and obsessing over Gwen Stacy
And while Peter was a cause to bring him down, Eddie wanted him to die and used his faith as a means to pray and make it happen
It all seems a dark parallel to the comic version of how Eddie in both versions have warped minds and men of faith
“Daily bugle”
Inappropriate
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Peter taking off the symbiote reminds me of Tyler1's "GET THIS SHIT OF ME AAAAAAH"
This is it ! The comment i've been waiting for ! 😂
Yeah because theres a funny video about it already
Yesss someone else that thinks the same to T1 and bully McGuire defo need to work out some day though😂
ruclips.net/video/BE67fC5RCrI/видео.html 👍👍❤️❤️
Lol
This venom was more of a menace than mcus carnage
*Sonyverse Carnage
MCU Carnage was disapointed .despite woody harelson did great job as cletus kasady
@@thedlsking1628Sony made the Whole Spider man Franchise Of course Venom Too Not Marvel studios
*So nobody's going to talk about how Peter had to go home naked after removing the suit?*
Maybe and I mean maybe he just web over himself like the private area
@@jc._.goated6666 Lmao🤣
@@jc._.goated6666 no tobey yeets it all the way home
He was wearing clothes before he took off the suit
EDIT: stop replying to me that he was naked
*Stolen comment*
The effects for venom in this film still hold up really well
The new Venom CGI is even less realistic than this 11-year-old version.
Fun Guy it’s looks like water
hooked nigga that’s the real ninja!!!!! Tap on his name
RN Gamer ... don't bother wasting peoples time, it doesn't even have the verified "checkmark". You must think people are as dumb as yourself. Troll on.
Fun Guy click on the name and it has 18 mil subs u twit
I don't go to Church but I am pretty sure that wishing Death on someone isn't something you should do in a Church.
I'm Catholic and that is correct.
Exactly. Catholic religion basically preaches forgiveness.
@@NeoArashi lol,no religion says to kill people...
@@lazarmarinkovic1932 some do but those are the crazy religions
@@comment3952 and even then, the religions that promote killing usualy don't promote vengence, especially personal vengence, like this guy did. They usually allow killing during wartime, and only if the other party is the aggressors.
When i was kid, i used to think he removed the Venom because Eddie asked god to kill Peter Parker, but now i realized that he wanted to remove because he hurt MJ.
Peter removing the symbiote from himself is one of the most intense scenes in the whole movie. I love it!
And it’s just like how it looked in the original source material with the bell tower and everything! Phenomenal scene :D
@@Howlingburd19 I know, right? 😊
Now how Peter get his apartment now if he was naked 🗿
This whole movie is literally the entire definition of depression, breaking free from it, and realizing that there are good people in your life to support you
Thats prob the most underrated thing I've heard anyone say about SM3
@@joellennon6736
I mean, I guess, but it's true
@@andreaschong3249 no i see Ur pov, especially with peters story arc here
@@joellennon6736
Yeah
@@andreaschong3249 it can also be viewed as breaking free from substance abuse or your pride
In my childhood that was for me the scariest scene ever
Same, along with Venom in general.
Same here I was in class 3 at that time
I watched this when I was 12 at the movie theater and half the crowd laughed when Peter cried during James Franco's death
Same here cuz like the symbiotic “goo” went in Eddie’s mouth dude like EW DISGUISTING
In my childhood I thought it was awesome!
The CGI holds up really really well
Ayrton Sy thats what i was thinking
Better than marvel
Ar Wan No. lmao
True!
Matt Darga Much better than TASM 2 ;)
Small detail I love: At 2:55 we see peter rid of the symbiote, accompanied by triumphant, tonal music, and then right afterwards we're back to the rhythmic, heavy music of the symbiote. Subtle!
There's also that religous hymn at 1:50 while hearing Peter screaming right after he prayed for Peter's death
@@Felix-ic1fcChristopher Young went crazy with this score
2:56 The moment Peter realized he was free (for now)
I like how at 2:04, that was in ATSV when there was stills of the Venom Symbiote
The whole trilogy was a masterpiece.
The hate behind this movie is ridiculous
@Abolfazl Hoseini right you are mate
Abolfazl Hoseini theres only one scene everybody cringed at
@@Leahjones598 ikr, I don't get it. This is my second favourite in the trilogy
3rd one not so much
Eddie: “...I want you to kill Peter Parker”
Jesus: “...well you see that’s not how this works”
Tobey Maguire had a black Spider-Man suit in Spider-Man 3. Henry Cavill will have a black Superman suit in The Snyder Cut of Justice League. 🤯
More like sony
Vladimir Manosalvas IG: TheVladMan and?
Yeah kill him in 1 millon years
@@TheVladMan. not hating but how does that have any connection with spiderman?
"You want forgiveness, get religion"
Eddie: I DID.
God: *You weren't supposed to do that*
“Missed the part where that’s my problem”
And the devil responded
Eddie got religion ,but not for forgiveness ... For revenge
"You'll get your forgiveness when you fixed this goddamn door! "
This movie might be a mess. But the shot of Spider-Man in his black suit brooding in the rain is one of the most amazing images I’ve seen in any comic book movie, let alone a Spider-Man movie. I just love it, think I might draw and paint it soon. It’s iconic!
If they didn't push the director into having 3 villains in Spiderman 3 and saved Venom for a Spiderman 4...The Sam Raimi verse would be hollywood legend.
Then there's the new Spiderman trailer.... Did they not learn?
X
Sam didn’t want Venom in his films at all. He said he’s not a fan of the character.
They just chose the villains for this film so poorly. The whole interaction between Peter, the symbiote and Harry was brilliant and more than enough to carry the film by itself. All they needed was a brief second villain for Peter and Harry to team up against at the end. Sandman isn't suitable because he's supposed to be a tragic character, not a monstrous supervillain.
If they hadn't conclusively killed Norman Osborn off he could have 'returned from the dead ' like in the comics, which would be an even greater payoff if Harry were forced to fight him. Norman even accidentally killed Harry in Ultimate Spiderman so there's plenty of meat behind this concept.
For the film continuity though, it makes more sense for it to be Connors/Lizard. He was experimenting with the symbiote throughout the film, what if by doing so he discovered the missing ingredient for his Lizard formula? They were quietly setting up Connors/Lizard since the first film, what better time to unleash the Lizard than this point in the narrative? A perfect threat for Peter and Harry to team up against.
Venom was the most wasted of all though. Eddie shouldn't have bonded with the symbiote until the post-credits scene. That way Spiderman 4 can be all about Venom. Remember how Venom was introduced in the comics, when he covertly tried to kill Peter by pushing him in front of a subway train without revealing himself, since he doesn't trigger the spider-sense? Imagine how cool that would have been on screen. The start of the film could be building tension around this mystery.
After that they can take it all kinds of ways. Remember Eddie faked those photos of black-suited spiderman doing evil deeds? Well now he HAS the black suit, he can IMPERSONATE Spiderman. How epic would that be? Peter would still have no idea who Venom is. Gah, so much wasted potential.
@@TKGriffiths they were planning on making mysterio the main villain for spiderman 4. Sam had no choice but to make sandman bad in order to make them team up at the end thanks to a stupid company called sony which deliberately pushed raimi to put venom in the film, and it was 5 days before the release of spiderman 4 that it was cancelled because raimi decided to give up and let sony take the reboot which was just awful with garfield.
The soundtrack so beautiful when he’s sitting on the tower
Ikr.
so is the cinematography
Yep❤️
The soundtrack in this whole series was just so awesome
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Eddie called out to God...
*And the Devil responded.*
No cuz the devil can’t hear your prayers.
More like god said do it yourself
Because he pray for to kill someone, exatly peter
He prayed to God to kill someone. And Eddie got the DEVIL himself.
@@fabianfollowerofchrist5299 Yes, he can hear every word you say out of your mouth, but he can't read your mind.
Better CGI than today's Marvel
"you want forgiveness, get religion"
Eddie: "so I took that personally"
UNDERRATED comment. $
It might not have stuck, but something did.
Pete took his own advice 👀🙏🏽
Imagine if this was the final scene of Spiderman 3 and probably what would have been the hype for Spiderman 4...
EDIT:it's 2020 and I want everyone to stay safe and stay strong!
I am currently waiting for the "Spiderman 4" fan made film coming this year! But looks like we are gonna have to wait because of the corona virus! Stay safe everybody ❤🙏.
if only Spider-Man 4 had happened man! but this movie was trash.
That gives me chills just thinking about it
that would've been the most annoying cliff-hanger ever
We think the same!:)
Miles Robinson no it wasn’t lol
Still one of the best scenes ever... It aged perfectly.
Satisfying mh 1:37
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Who here after Insomniac Spider-Man 2?
[SPOILERS]
The fact that Spidey was able to rip the symbiote out like in 2:30 was a pretty nice nod.
Eddie: I want you to kill Peter Parker
God: wait that's illegal
Your Right
Yea how's Eddie gonna ask God to kill someone when he created him
It’s very messed up ok what is he standing on look at what’s on the floor
Like he ever had a problem with killing
Austin Riggs
Emperor Palpatine: “I will make it legal.”
Ok so hear me out. I have had depression for about 10 years (2016-18 i still had depression) and it took me a year to realize it was actually very bad Depression when it came to 2020. I haven’t seen Spiderman 3 for a couple of years and that was my favorite Superhero Movie of all Time when I was a kid. And this scene at the Church, the Black Suit to me symbolized Depression, i was trapped inside it. I had Guilt. I thought I was responsible for my Father’s death, even though it wasn’t my fault that he had died in Afghanistan. But this scene cured me because it felt like I took off the suit after so many years of wearing it. I just want to thank this Scene, and most importantly I thank God. 🙏😁
Peter taking off the symbiote struggling, is like us struggling with our addictions such as Drugs and Lust. Like another commenter said, “This symbolism is powerful.” I couldn’t agree more.
That’s deep. I’m proud of you, stay strong ❤️ I suffer from depression too, but I’ll also be okay 💪
that was beautiful. i'm so happy you're better now. stay safe and healthy ❤
Keep it up mah man
Stay strong
Proud of u don’t forget to pray during the bad times and during the good times 🖤
Fucking hell I love this scene. The buildup, the camerawork, the CGI, the music. I just love it so much
Pls don't swear man kids r also hear watching this probably.
@@joshuapere997 there's a thing called RUclips kids
@@joshuapere997 sorry bro
@@joshuapere997 fuck
@@joshuapere997 fuck
Bullshit
I will never understand how people hate this movie, this is cinematic master piece
I wouldn't go as far as to say it's a "cinematic masterpiece". This movie does have issues. However, it's not NEARLY as bad as people make it out to be and I too will never understand why it's so hated.
This movie was no where near as good as first 2, but I still love it. This was one hell of a trilogy.
BaconLettuceTomato™ yes. Better than the newer adaptions. It remains dominant and more realistic.
How come?
BaconLettuceTomato™ I like the first one, but 3 has aged much better. Most of the kids calling Homecoming awesome and this trash probably haven’t even watched this movie
Hobbies kV
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3:18 Eddie becomes Venom
Venom: First we attack the cameraman!
Lol
Stolen
Camera man: You underestimate me?! Attack me all you want! For I AM INVINCIBLE!!!!
Usually camera mans always survive in movies
Hey, that kinda looks like Goblin's line
Kids in the future generation will never know how much this Spiderman means to us
R.I.P Stan Lee
Stfu
@@jakeystarsuper um go to hell?
Kids can enjoy either Spider-Man. I do grew up with Rami trilogy but I do respect other actors for Spidey.
@@sonicmania6753 well you dont always have to defend something even tho there not apart of the clip that we are watching.
And either way sure but you do know that tom himself stated that he wants and I croute "I want to see a gay spidey in the near future".
How can you respect him after that saying?
Jordan Wheeler I’m pretty sure he’s joking. Personally I don’t really care, I mean Spider-Man has many different incarnations of himself.
New Spider Man movies got nothing on this one. This one is the best EVER
"I want you to kill Peter Parker"
God: Ask and you shall receive... *But there's a twist*
Why are you here again?
The devil answered, not God...
Receive and you shall ask
Soul for soul
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Ngl for a 2007 movie these are amazing visual effects
Still it is in present
Yeah it hold better than many movies especially black panther lol
@Rohit Kuhmar Ik BP gets slack for its vfx but in all fairness the production was rushed. The artists weren't done at all by the time we saw the film. That's on Marvel. And I think they were taking artists from BP to work on Infinity War instead but I could be wrong
@@Antwannnn let's hope BP2 is better than the first one in that terms.
Transformers 1 too
*Eddie:*
"I want you to kill Peter Parker"
*God:*
"I missed the part where that's my problem"
Because Bully Maguire is God
@@sunlightorchestra8786 for real 😂
@@sunlightorchestra8786 Nope.
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This is definitely one of the better scenes in the movie, but I can't help but find the thought of Peter swinging through New York naked after this hilarious.
I'm just realizing he's no wearing underwear under that suit, nasty
Maybe he asked someone for a robe or something.
3:11 “He called for the Lord and the Devil answered”
Is that a scripture?
God refused, the devil answered
@@KuueenKumi Damn skippy.
Spider-Man Chapters 3 versus 07
"Those who ask of me to kill a man. Thus. I refuse and The Devil shall listen and giveth thee superpowers. I don't kill. Amen."
Well because he asked for destruction and evil. You know who's the expertise of that the Devil
@@haloed-hero Amen brother 👼 ✝
Eddie: I want you to kill Peter Parker
Jesus: Bruh, do I look like Satan to you?
Free Bird Yea, bruh. That scene and Topher Grace was terrible.
Lee Lee bruh why not?
as
Free Bird at least the black suit made Eddies wish come true
Free Bird I personally only found one passage where Satan actually killed someone and God was the one who allowed it
This movie wasn’t bad until the internet said it was.
@James Davis This people are shitting on Sam Raimi for this movie’s ”failure”, but it was Sony that tried to give fans what they wanted, even though Raimi didn’t want to feature Venom because he didn’t know what to do with him, or how he fully worked as a character. That’s why the Green Goblin, Dr. Octopus and Sandman were so well portrayed. The director knew what to do with them.
You mean the *critics*
Different people have different opinions.
James Davis a movie so bad it'll likely kill the franchise for nineteen years-
It's only mildly disappointing as a hardcore comic fan. But still a great movie.
I love how all the comments are only 2-3 yrs old while this was uploaded around 7 years ago. This shows that many of us understood the depth of this scene after we grew up.
The 15,000 dislikes are from the New Yorkers who saw Peter swinging home naked later that night
The clothes were the symbiote
I'm say the truth the clothes were the symbiote
@@ironspider7465 aren't you supposed to be smart?
Nope
Civilian : *yup big change*
The thing that's funny after watching this scene again is Peter probably having to web-swing back to his apartment naked.
Stupifyification i dont think he would do that, my theory is that he may either had boxers on or his cloths from that jazz club
Probably made himself some clothes out of webs lol
He had underwear on him probably
He didnt have anything thats why they cover him but yeh he coulf have sprayed some webs or taken some of the munks clothe
Or use Eddie jacket since he throw it before transforming into venom
Eddie: "I want you to kill my career."
God: "say no more."
Xd
That’s just sad…
I thought he did good as Eddie Brock
Also God: *Because now your the one who’s gonna die*
😂😂😂😂😂
Nobody talk about the fact that Eddie actually took Peter's advice and went to the church. Loool!!!