Another MiG Nerf Inbound | MiG-21Bis War Thunder

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  • Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024

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  • @TheInfraredGamer
    @TheInfraredGamer 4 месяца назад +104

    Why's the dude on the forums snitching so hard 🤣

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  4 месяца назад +68

      He also bug reported the F-8E now 😭

    • @dylanhughes5944
      @dylanhughes5944 4 месяца назад

      a lot of the time when a high profile "snitcher" comes out it's really just a guy from the same team which in this case is a Warthunder employee. :) US Government is infamous for this, having their own moles come to court lol. Probably sounds like bs but just watch in a few years he'll probably be ousted in the same way many US Government moles get ousted

    • @kizvy
      @kizvy 4 месяца назад +2

      @@GeneralLee2000where do you see this?

    • @DigitalShaolin
      @DigitalShaolin 4 месяца назад +45

      This guys an actual bum lol, probably works for gaijin as he’s the only one who gaijin actually pays attention to his bug reports instead of the thousands of our bug reports that would make the game more enjoyable and they ignore.

    • @skilz2kil528
      @skilz2kil528 4 месяца назад

      lmao

  • @Boris_The_Turtle
    @Boris_The_Turtle 4 месяца назад +10

    Bruh. Su-27 flies like cringe. MiG-29 energy retention is gimped. MiG-23 is sad now, and now the MiG-21bis is going to be neutered.
    Why do they keep making some of my favorite aircraft unflyable. Flying missile buses aren’t very fun, I grinded the entire Russian tech tree with the idea that they would have worse weapons but good flight performance, not the other way around. 😭

  • @EricThyKaiser
    @EricThyKaiser 4 месяца назад +26

    Gaijin is doing a reverse Su22M3 move, instead of making a descent vehicle OP they made an awful vehicle worse

    • @Elyron2004
      @Elyron2004 4 месяца назад

      i never found the su22 to be decent at all, not even as a CAS for its br, mf got no good HUD zoom for its missiles, and got a medium bad agility

    • @thekingofgamers3350
      @thekingofgamers3350 4 месяца назад

      And it can get to face 9.7 vehicles at a downteir WITH R60MKs.​@@Elyron2004 I normally get 2-4 kills + a base kill.

    • @SA-ks3ex
      @SA-ks3ex 4 месяца назад

      @@Elyron2004it’s quite fun as a missile bus if you play 10.7 or lower (which is a rare case)

    • @Elyron2004
      @Elyron2004 4 месяца назад

      @@SA-ks3ex i assume AGM missiles.
      the R60s are found everywhere and on far better airframes.
      AGM is still lacking over the stupid low zoom of the gunner camera

  • @dutch24
    @dutch24 4 месяца назад +49

    MiG-21Bis is playable spaded at 11.0, it's arguably good at 11.0 but that's fine.
    In all honesty it's one of those polarizing planes that performs insanely well in a downtier but terribly in a uptier.
    Once again the simple fix is decompression 😮‍💨

    • @Jacob-sz3qq
      @Jacob-sz3qq 4 месяца назад

      Most planes in this game perform insanely well downtiered, decently well on tier, and terribly when upjtiered. That's kinda how gaijin balances the game.

    • @dutch24
      @dutch24 4 месяца назад

      @@Jacob-sz3qq It gets way more noticeable as the BR increases

  • @MANNYzZ
    @MANNYzZ 4 месяца назад +74

    1:28 lee swore instant cancelled,banned

    • @-Hari-03
      @-Hari-03 4 месяца назад +9

      constantly shidding airspeed 🗣🔥

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  4 месяца назад +19

      Whoopsie poopsie?

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  4 месяца назад +12

      ​@@-Hari-03It was constantly SHEDDING airspeed lmao, I see how y'all thought that though

    • @kingghidorah8106
      @kingghidorah8106 4 месяца назад +1

      sheddin be shiddin

    • @BadAtWarThunder2006
      @BadAtWarThunder2006 4 месяца назад

      @@GeneralLee2000 knew what you said but i did exhale lightly

  • @aceofthunder9868
    @aceofthunder9868 4 месяца назад +27

    I am playing the mig21bis right now and i can also say with confidence that it is the most sad plane i have flown in quite a while, simply because of the uptiers and the inability to get consistent kills with the r60ms

  • @aenodarr7936
    @aenodarr7936 4 месяца назад +20

    It's funny how they nerf the mig, while irl it could pull more AOA, enough to do a cobra even

    • @EggSaladSammich
      @EggSaladSammich 4 месяца назад +4

      AOA and doing cobras is different than sustained turn rate

  • @fasztorta0001
    @fasztorta0001 4 месяца назад +7

    Yeah, but... Russian Bias, right?

  • @boat5138441
    @boat5138441 4 месяца назад +23

    Meanwhile at 10.0-11.0 F5s seal clubbing everything

    • @ultimatechad8738
      @ultimatechad8738 4 месяца назад +1

      Which is even slower and has worse missiles, sure bro

    • @boat5138441
      @boat5138441 4 месяца назад +12

      @@ultimatechad8738 which has a lower BR and can out maneuver a bis. It takes a century for a bis to fight a F5E. By then his teammates are probably long gone. USA BR 10.0 to 11.0 has 61.7% win rate. That is on top of US almost always get mixed with everything else to fight US team. US alone at night when seal clubbers comes out is probably close to 80% WR. Do you even play the game?

    • @ultimatechad8738
      @ultimatechad8738 4 месяца назад

      @@boat5138441 1. Where are you getting these win rates statistics?
      2. Have you actually ever played any of the F-5's (C, E, chinese A variant, etc.), enemies can just run away and re-engage when they even out the playing field, and yes to answer your retarded question I do play the game I have 2k hours in ARB alone

    • @hubril7921
      @hubril7921 4 месяца назад +11

      ​@@ultimatechad8738 yeah, sustained 11G turn at mach 0.9 with ZERO speed bleed, sure man

    • @ultimatechad8738
      @ultimatechad8738 4 месяца назад

      @@hubril7921 that's the only speed it can do shit at, go slower and you fall out the spy, go faster aaand I'll stop you right there cause your speed doesn't go further than 1.1 effectively AKA 90% of jets at the BR can outrun you
      just. dont. energy. fucking. fight. F-5's. not that complicated

  • @ReepsWasteOfTime
    @ReepsWasteOfTime 4 месяца назад +4

    almost every aircraft over performs. The mig23 actually needed the nerf (I have almost 1k games in it so I think I have enough experience to know that) but all these other jets… if I bug report the f16 or gripen for pulling over 9g will anything happen??? This feels unfair to the 21bis and this isn’t the type of “balancing” we need.

  • @brunebos_
    @brunebos_ 4 месяца назад +3

    29 nerf, 23 nerf, 21 nerf, t90m 7.1 reload
    russian bias...

  • @yatzeegamingop
    @yatzeegamingop 4 месяца назад +16

    On the BR decompression topic, the reason why they are not doing is absolutely not the queue times, but rather the monetization motives. War thunder is driven not by entertainment, but rather frustration. You need to be frustrated to buy that shing 50/60 dollar premium. The queue times are already beyond garbage for what the matchmaking is.

    • @SldOnEmWithDa45
      @SldOnEmWithDa45 4 месяца назад

      I’ll be the first to admit…I dropped an unhealthy amount on this game out of pure frustration 😂😂 I’m not proud of it, but I learned my lesson and just play this game just to play it. If at any point it pisses me off, I close the game out and move onto something else lol

  • @ВячеславФролов-д7я
    @ВячеславФролов-д7я 4 месяца назад +8

    Meanwhile f16s pulling 14+ g...

  • @PilotUwU
    @PilotUwU 4 месяца назад +13

    Gaijin logic (too much skill issue usamain cry on the forum): any russian thing need massiva nerf and all usa vehicle need overbuff

    • @casematecardinal
      @casematecardinal 4 месяца назад +3

      Cope and seethe sputnik.

    • @alexmaximus9134
      @alexmaximus9134 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@casematecardinal Let's see you say that if they nerf US planes. Then you's need 3 rolls of tissues to wipe the tears and you'd lose your voice because of how many times you'll cry russian bias when your favourite nation gets its toys nerfed.

    • @Vex-777
      @Vex-777 4 месяца назад +13

      ​@@casematecardinalyou're mad he's right haha

    • @ML_Tachanka
      @ML_Tachanka 4 месяца назад +2

      @@alexmaximus9134 I won’t be surprised if they nerf YaK-141 instead and buff US planes further.

    • @thatoneguy1741
      @thatoneguy1741 4 месяца назад +2

      What happens when USA has the most premium players out of all the nations 😒

  • @DzinkyDzink
    @DzinkyDzink 4 месяца назад +31

    Take away F-5C's flares and reduce it's rank from 7 to 6. Let's see how that flies 😮

    • @theidiotictroublemaker2281
      @theidiotictroublemaker2281 4 месяца назад +1

      It will still be good?

    • @scaniadan2968
      @scaniadan2968 4 месяца назад +3

      No leave it alone

    • @aker1993
      @aker1993 4 месяца назад +5

      That thing dont have flare attached during the Vietnam war

    • @Astraben
      @Astraben 4 месяца назад

      If you went to a hospital and said this out loud they´d bring you out back and commit you to the looney bin.

    • @alexmaximus9134
      @alexmaximus9134 4 месяца назад +8

      ​@@scaniadan2968 Then they should leave the soviet flying pencil alone as well. But they don't.

  • @ItzCPU_
    @ItzCPU_ 4 месяца назад +60

    I feel like the F-5 is next because someone told me it was overperfomlng.

    • @nathaaab
      @nathaaab 4 месяца назад +13

      it is but it has already been rejected

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  4 месяца назад +51

      They're using a russian source for their info instead of the 1984 F-5E manual so...

    • @Scorchluck
      @Scorchluck 4 месяца назад

      So what? That doesn't stop snail from nerfing the MiG-21 based on non-Soviet sources. According to the flight manual, it's already underperfomlng

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  4 месяца назад +20

      @@Scorchluck this is a soviet source. They included the turn charts from the manual here 😅

    • @ayylmao8901
      @ayylmao8901 4 месяца назад +6

      a6m lmfao
      that one unironically is overperforming, and the source isn't weird or obscure at all. literally every allied pilot after like, '43 was instructed to try and bait the zero into a high-speed dive, where the zero would lock up heavily and be unable to keep up with the other plane. in WT it literally doesn't do that. at all. thirteen G's like it's nothin at 600kph.

  • @-Hari-03
    @-Hari-03 4 месяца назад +20

    man im just glad its not the SMT getting nerfed, i love that thing. bis is kinda mid cuz of its BR anyway (not bad, just not amazing) so i barely ever fly it anyway, i guess this is just the final nail in the coffin for me wanting to play the BIS lol

    • @lucky_lad4825
      @lucky_lad4825 4 месяца назад +1

      yo man, long time no see, I was devastated about the 23 series nerfs, as you know i adore the 23MLA

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  4 месяца назад +8

      REAL AND TRUE

    • @alexturnbackthearmy1907
      @alexturnbackthearmy1907 4 месяца назад +5

      Good riddance. BIS is miserable plane, playing stock Mig29 is less painful, and that with 2 R-60M`s on top tier.

  • @ItzCPU_
    @ItzCPU_ 4 месяца назад +59

    I don’t think this will change too much because, with the MiG-21bis either you stomp whatever you’re dogfighting or it stomps you. For the planes that were equal to it, pilot skill can still bridge the gap. IMO

    • @scottgilmour1128
      @scottgilmour1128 4 месяца назад +19

      Bro really said a whole lotta nothing. How doesn’t this apply to literally any other plane

    • @blessthismessss
      @blessthismessss 4 месяца назад +2

      definitely. anybody who really relies on this things sustained turnrate is doin it wrong anyway. this thing is legit capable of very tight scissor fights and even PSMs if you use flaps + rudder right in a dogfight!!!

    • @ItzCPU_
      @ItzCPU_ 4 месяца назад

      @@blessthismessss yeah!

    • @NoisterPro
      @NoisterPro 4 месяца назад +1

      that f16a in a downtier be like

  • @ryanfreeman5083
    @ryanfreeman5083 4 месяца назад +6

    I can only wish that the insanely busted FMs many Western planes will get nerfed, but until then I will keep pulling 13-15G in the F-15A while barely losing speed all at 12.3 because that's realistic lmao
    Hell after 2 separate turn rate nerfs the JAS-39 is still slightly overperforming in that aspect.

    • @bastikolaski8111
      @bastikolaski8111 4 месяца назад +1

      IRL the F15 is build for max 7G maneuver

    • @hubril7921
      @hubril7921 4 месяца назад +1

      imo every single plane in WT is so over performing the only reason the F-16 on release 'sucked'(lmfao) was because it was semi-resembling of its real life accuracy

    • @bastikolaski8111
      @bastikolaski8111 4 месяца назад +2

      @hubril7921 no, russian planes in WT are underperforming. Many planes have less thrust and less maneuverbility than in reality

    • @hubril7921
      @hubril7921 4 месяца назад +1

      @@bastikolaski8111sure in some areas they are, but you can't tell me floggers can hold for more than 3 seconds of 12G turns, or pretty much any rank 7~8 jet for that matter

    • @sule.A
      @sule.A 9 дней назад

      ​@@bastikolaski8111 7g? 💀bruh cmon get real

  • @phatleoric
    @phatleoric 4 месяца назад +5

    goes down to 10.7? time to take the dust off the lazur

  • @Miratesus
    @Miratesus 4 месяца назад +5

    So all these years, The mig's have been overperforming? Sad, They were amazing to fly and their flight performance compensated for their weaker weapons over the F-4 Phantoms.

  • @ItzCPU_
    @ItzCPU_ 4 месяца назад +25

    The Микоян-Гуревич 21 is getting nerfed?

  • @Karter_Blackpaw
    @Karter_Blackpaw 4 месяца назад +3

    The Mig21Bis is a miserable plane to fly. You're always facing stuff way leagues better than you, your R60's refuse to ever function, and it makes no sense why the Lazur model gets to be at 10.7 when you're forced to be at 11.0+

  • @chert9152
    @chert9152 4 месяца назад +5

    it's a shame how all of that is happening just because of some pissy babies crying about russian bias in forums

    • @alexmaximus9134
      @alexmaximus9134 4 месяца назад +7

      Those are the same type of people who take the P-47 at low altitude and try to dogfight a Yak-3. Then complain about russian bias.

  • @ML_Tachanka
    @ML_Tachanka 4 месяца назад +3

    Nerfing a jet that’s already underperforming? Ain’t that funny, what’s next? YaK-141?

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  4 месяца назад +1

      where did you hear it was underperforming?

  • @Hadgerz
    @Hadgerz 4 месяца назад +21

    if they bring it down to 10.7 so it doesn't keep getting uptiered to f16s and mig29s they can do whatever they want to the FM imo

    • @locaog4mesyoutube612
      @locaog4mesyoutube612 4 месяца назад +2

      Yeah, but the BIS shouldn't see 9.7s like Jaguar Gr.1, Harrier Gr.1, Gr.3 and AV-8A or C, T-2, stuff like those, the 21Bis shouldn't face them. Hell, the 21S could see the Bis, same for the SPS-K, if it was 10.7

    • @epsilon2843
      @epsilon2843 4 месяца назад +8

      @@locaog4mesyoutube612Thats the problem with all the BRs being so compressed in air, can’t move things up or down to balance them without screwing over other vehicles or BRs. We need a higher max BR and some decompression to revive certain BR ranges

    • @locaog4mesyoutube612
      @locaog4mesyoutube612 4 месяца назад

      @@epsilon2843 exactly, but gaijin refuses to cause queue times apparently, when its because they make money off the F-5C, MiG-23ML, so on

    • @anrw886
      @anrw886 4 месяца назад +6

      ​@@locaog4mesyoutube612Bis facing 9.7 is closer to balanced than bis facing 12.0

    • @epsilon2843
      @epsilon2843 4 месяца назад +1

      @@locaog4mesyoutube612 It's wild, I think most people wouldn't mind a slightly longer queue if it meant more balanced and enjoyable matches, but Gaijin seems to think the opposite I guess

  • @machadoross
    @machadoross 4 месяца назад +3

    They better not touch my mig 21's!! They are the rea I play this game

  • @thomasvertommen9526
    @thomasvertommen9526 4 месяца назад +6

    10.7 MIG-21 BIS. And that will then have the ramifications for some 9.7 aircraft that will have to deal with that bullshit.
    At the rate Gaijin is lowering the BR's I'm just waiting to meet an MiG21 in a P51 Mustang...

  • @faq187tim9
    @faq187tim9 4 месяца назад +2

    So many commenters here are dumb, the discrepancies in aoa performance for many planes is because of fllying with instructor enabled. If you turn it off, you'll pull harder but lose all speed, like, for example, the SU27 irl and in the game.

  • @DarkStalker09
    @DarkStalker09 4 месяца назад +12

    Did they nerf the radar and the F4J or the missile because the AIM-7F on my F4j misses like 4 out of 6 times it’s very bad now idk what happened to it?

    • @anrw886
      @anrw886 4 месяца назад +3

      Been running aim7e2 on F4J instead, way more reliable under 8km

    • @Infinite-INF
      @Infinite-INF 4 месяца назад +1

      It feels like its missing a lot more now too... maybe the chaff buff did something?

    • @geerdi5222
      @geerdi5222 4 месяца назад +2

      It´s the same with the AIM 7 F on the F4S… it´s way worse now then it was a few months ago

  • @Bob_Dickinson
    @Bob_Dickinson 4 месяца назад +4

    Oh no... Wait NO NO my j7e :( is it gonna be effected?

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  4 месяца назад +1

      Shouldn't be, it's not a bis and has a different wing design

    • @Bob_Dickinson
      @Bob_Dickinson 4 месяца назад

      @@GeneralLee2000 ah man... i hope... cuz i wanna unlock that thing asap :(

  • @ashrodrigues3571
    @ashrodrigues3571 4 месяца назад +2

    Well the F4E never carried the AIM7`S irl so i guess they should also bug report that and put it at 10.3 just an opnion

    • @kylebrady969
      @kylebrady969 2 месяца назад

      ...Sorry what? The Phantom? The plane designed by the US Navy to be a fleet defense fighter against Bears, Badgers, and Blinders? The plane that inherited the Sparrow from the F3H?
      Almost ALL the Phantoms carried sparrows and radar to support them except the German F-4F (pre-ICE update). Are you for real?

  • @pkemr4
    @pkemr4 4 месяца назад +4

    The real problem is 16 v 16

  • @ArchonCommando
    @ArchonCommando 4 месяца назад +10

    They're no nerfing like half the rank 7 prems. Theres no way this isnt intentional to sell you 75 dollar rank 8 prems coming in the next patch lol. This game deserves another reviewbomb with the shit the devs are pulling...

  • @Kyorgerr
    @Kyorgerr 4 месяца назад +3

    I AM SO PISSED THE BIS WAS MY FAV JET TO USE BRO WHO THE FUCK SNITCHIN?

  • @ferrariman7695
    @ferrariman7695 4 месяца назад +16

    i am going to cry

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  4 месяца назад +4

      Have some tissues ready 😭

    • @ferrariman7695
      @ferrariman7695 4 месяца назад +4

      @@GeneralLee2000 i wanted to get the mig 23 ml now i aint getting anything

    • @Tizanikgoesboom322
      @Tizanikgoesboom322 4 месяца назад

      ​​@@GeneralLee2000 question: what about the german migs? Are they getting nerfed too?

    • @ML_Tachanka
      @ML_Tachanka 4 месяца назад +1

      @@Tizanikgoesboom322 EVERY MiG-23 is getting nerfed.

    • @Tizanikgoesboom322
      @Tizanikgoesboom322 4 месяца назад +1

      @@ML_Tachanka my poor mig 23 mla :')

  • @comrade4329
    @comrade4329 4 месяца назад +7

    we used to rule the world.....

  • @Sky_King7
    @Sky_King7 4 месяца назад +1

    What we really need, that would help the compression issue, is just shrink the acceptable BR range in the matchmaker.
    Instead of 11.0 being able to face 10-12.0, or +-3 BR’s, make it +-2 BR’s, so a 11.0 jet would only face a 10.3-11.7 plane.
    Bam… decompression. With little impact on que time.

  • @PvtPartzz
    @PvtPartzz 4 месяца назад +3

    Convert to simulator air battles 😉… it makes so many aircraft fun to use and the changing br brackets mean there are multiple days during the week in which you cannot see higher BR’s.
    Air sim is the only fun game mode for top tier and you can’t change my mind.

    • @tomatoflight
      @tomatoflight 4 месяца назад

      It requires brain power

    • @Tobias-wb6kd
      @Tobias-wb6kd 4 месяца назад

      Morris importantly, it requires patience.
      Honestly, top tier air sim is still a complete dumpster fire, if less of one than RB. Everything 11.3 and below though, is *way* better than RB, not even close. Top tier could be pretty good too if the maps were bigger. Like 300-500km in size.

  • @PlayerAfricanChieften
    @PlayerAfricanChieften 4 месяца назад +3

    just delete all migs at this point

  • @LakuzG
    @LakuzG 3 месяца назад +1

    Are all mig 21s getting this nerf??

  • @KaguyasBeat
    @KaguyasBeat 4 месяца назад +1

    I find it funny you brought up the even matchmaking at the end there cuz I no cap had a game a couple weeks ago while stock grinding my Mirage 2KC-S4 where I was top tier with a team full of F-4S and MiG-23's... against a team with a MiG-29, some F-14's, an F-16, and the best part: Some F-15's. That is one of the most infuriating games I have ever played. The most nonsensical matchmaking I have ever seen in this game. My team having a max BR of 11.7 (One plane at that, me) vs a team that has up to 12.3. What sense does that make.

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  4 месяца назад +2

      that's exactly my point. They'll probably never do it because it would extend queue times but oh well

  • @TeamValkyrie2023
    @TeamValkyrie2023 4 месяца назад +1

    So now I'm going to get uptiered into matches full of f14 and not be as maneuverable against missiles launched across the map. So glad i chose Germany to grind

  • @ATS_i_piss_on_G00gle
    @ATS_i_piss_on_G00gle 4 месяца назад

    Gaijin is NOT alergic to decompression due to "que times" but because they use frustration(bad tech tree vehicles/slower reserch) as a mean to sell premium vehicles.
    If people have fun grinding they will probably buy less premium vehicles..

  • @Wubb333
    @Wubb333 4 месяца назад

    those R-60Ms are disgusting

  • @kilianfirebolt
    @kilianfirebolt 2 месяца назад

    R13M1 are incredibly fun to use, people expect to flare once and your "R60" eats shit but in reality it was an R13 that ignores them more reliably

  • @miniraptor3211
    @miniraptor3211 4 месяца назад +1

    6:15 The guy eating two of his own teammate's missiles

  • @tokugawa33
    @tokugawa33 4 месяца назад

    Hopefully they decrease the br in that case. Not my belived mig 21 😭😭😭😭

  • @izak.barnes
    @izak.barnes 4 месяца назад

    Why the mig 21 and 37 bruh they were fine.
    Nerf the damn top tier russian death sticks

  • @MadGelo
    @MadGelo 4 месяца назад +17

    Thing started as UFO and now years and years later, its finally getting realistic FM? madness ...

    • @lazer2238
      @lazer2238 4 месяца назад +17

      Perhaps people need to learn to fight delta wings instead of crying about them getting stomped because they play into their strengths

    • @lfraser7128
      @lfraser7128 4 месяца назад +22

      It’s actually worse than it was irl, at least according to the flight manual

    • @mayonotes9849
      @mayonotes9849 4 месяца назад +10

      It's no UFO lol, that's the Kfirs and Mirage 2000s.

    • @lazer2238
      @lazer2238 4 месяца назад +10

      @@lfraser7128 it is, pulls less AOA than it should.

    • @casematecardinal
      @casematecardinal 4 месяца назад

      ​@@lfraser7128 how so.

  • @doctorothon
    @doctorothon 4 месяца назад +1

    the guy making these bug reports is actually a guy who hates fun

  • @ericw2674
    @ericw2674 4 месяца назад

    Realistic and SIM should share the migrating Battle ratings.

  • @Response1980
    @Response1980 4 месяца назад

    I think it will also get a 10.7 ARB reduction

  • @jamesrobinson3624
    @jamesrobinson3624 4 месяца назад

    Lol I love the part at about 615 where you start talking about balance and the match maker. Its SOOOO busted right now. You talk about 11s to 12s but about the rest of it. It's so much fun in a 10.7 getting a full up tier to 11.7 and you only find out that its 11.7 when you merge because your team has no 11.7s but the enemy team has 4 F14s. How does this work? Super easy. Gaijin doesn't care. The fact that I can get a 11.7 match and not have a single 11.7 on my team because the match maker put the 3 nations with a 11.7 on 1 team and the rest on another. How about having a 11.7 match in a 10.7 where your team doesn't have a single radar missile yet the enemy team is full F4s and F14s. EVERY ASPECT of the match maker is crap, and the 1.0 BR swing only makes it worse. The game is about to get WAY worse than it currently is int he next few months and they will do nothing to try and help it out because Gaijin still thinks they know what's best for the game and community.

  • @ViperFox_
    @ViperFox_ 4 месяца назад

    ill say it for the people in the back aka Gaijin. WE DONT CARE ABOUT QUE TIMES AS LONG AS YOU FIX COMPRESSION!!

  • @suzybean13
    @suzybean13 4 месяца назад +2

    Wassup lee?
    Ughhhh really?!

  • @Zenitchik_130
    @Zenitchik_130 4 месяца назад +3

    One dude single-handedly destroying whole soviet top tier😂😂😂

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  4 месяца назад

      He's coming for the US next

    • @Zenitchik_130
      @Zenitchik_130 4 месяца назад +1

      @@GeneralLee2000 I do hope so, F-15's radar need to be fixed for half a year now

    • @starliner2498
      @starliner2498 4 месяца назад

      @@Zenitchik_130 He's put up a nerf suggestion for the F-8 series

    • @Zenitchik_130
      @Zenitchik_130 4 месяца назад

      @@starliner2498 fair enough I guess

  • @rileyxbell
    @rileyxbell 4 месяца назад

    I remember when mig21bis was first added and it was clapping phantoms like no tomorrow

  • @lv100magikarp4
    @lv100magikarp4 4 месяца назад

    Gaijin when you produce a well thought out, evidence based, logical argument against BR compression: bUT tHe StaTIStiCs!!!11!!! ;-; ;-; ;-; ;-;

  • @AirsoftFaction
    @AirsoftFaction 4 месяца назад

    These are better for Gameplay in the long run. More realistic FM will help the "Ace Combat" Gameplay that is becoming a problem.

  • @AlexVanChezlaw
    @AlexVanChezlaw 4 месяца назад +1

    SOMEONE SILENCE THAT MAN ALREADY

  • @J4ckmaestro
    @J4ckmaestro 4 месяца назад

    they need to redo the WHOLE BR system, it's so whack, why the hell is it even going up in .4 / .3 increments anyway? am I missing something?

  • @davidhume6275
    @davidhume6275 4 месяца назад

    "Its getting worse"... we know. In fact, if you were involved in the economics of the game, youd have an idea of how bad it already is.

  • @No1harris_98
    @No1harris_98 4 месяца назад +1

    I recently spaded the German bis during the the start of the air event and I really enjoyed ( I also preferred carrying 1 R-13M and 5 R60Ms) and apparently the MiG 21s are underperforming according to there flight manuals and what not so I don’t really understand this nerf. Also there is nothing wrong with the F-4J(uk), I will be taking this slander…the aircraft is perfectly capable and enjoyable.

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  4 месяца назад +1

      They included pictures of the turn charts from the manual in the bug report... that's the source lol

    • @No1harris_98
      @No1harris_98 4 месяца назад

      @@GeneralLee2000 oh fr? What about actual flight manuals for evidence. (can’t remember the name, my bad) and not just whatever has been sent on the forums? Just curious.

    • @a.e.richardson218
      @a.e.richardson218 4 месяца назад +1

      @@No1harris_98 those manauls were for the MF which is underpreforming

    • @No1harris_98
      @No1harris_98 4 месяца назад

      @@a.e.richardson218 oh really, my bad didn’t know it was for a specific variant, but I couldn’t really remember either way. But is there actually nothing the we know off for the Bis? Any declassified stuff?

  • @fredning3340
    @fredning3340 4 месяца назад +3

    Hey Lee thank you for bringing the match maker issue. Lately I seem to run into this issue more often. The most aggravating encounter I had was queueing 11.3 Soviet with a buddy and we had only 12.0 on our team while the other team gets 4 12.3, needless to say it went poorly for us.

  • @skilz2kil528
    @skilz2kil528 4 месяца назад

    yeah its funny all 11.0 mig21's are uber trash but if they went to 10.7 they would be equally as op - absolutely need more decompression

  • @mab2187
    @mab2187 4 месяца назад

    If its realistic to real life then I'm fine with it.

  • @frogge6443
    @frogge6443 4 месяца назад

    If you're reading this ur hot 🥵🥵

  • @Storlans
    @Storlans Месяц назад

    its been overperforming for years....also op missiles.

  • @roguebogey
    @roguebogey 4 месяца назад

    21SMT enjoyers stay winning

  • @davidhume6275
    @davidhume6275 4 месяца назад

    We need a real boycott that may shut down the game where "nobody wins". This game needs to be trashed or fixed

  • @jonathonspears7736
    @jonathonspears7736 4 месяца назад

    I actually had a decent time spading my Finish Mig-21 Bis against 4th gens. Sure you are at a disadvantage, but just pick your targets and you'll do well enough. 6 missiles is enough to get at least 1 kill per game.

  • @rowanyuh6326
    @rowanyuh6326 4 месяца назад

    Soviet pilots did not like it after the bigger tanks and engine and called it hunchback due to shitty maneuverability and flight characteristics

  • @cleverlaziness
    @cleverlaziness 4 месяца назад

    Russian bias amirite?

  • @Lixdy1
    @Lixdy1 4 месяца назад

    4:36 from the limited testing i did it doesnt, even though the r60m has a bigger fov it wont go for flares as easily or will reaquire the plane unlike the r13 which was defeated the moment it saw one flare against an afterburning f16

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  4 месяца назад +1

      yeah the rangebands are better on the R-60M, could help in some situations

  • @ryannm
    @ryannm 4 месяца назад

    is the mig21mf also getting nerferd? hpefully not uz itrs my altime fav vehicle

  • @petermikus2363
    @petermikus2363 4 месяца назад

    Chill people it's 0.2G

  • @MiG-23_enthusiast
    @MiG-23_enthusiast 4 месяца назад +8

    what the sigma

  • @losersingames
    @losersingames 4 месяца назад

    bruh, im suffering in the mig-21bis already

  • @RedTail1-1
    @RedTail1-1 4 месяца назад

    Why do they still have Rank does not matter say '1-2 BR higher' and why still have the Skill matters(2-5 BR higher) and God Mode!(5+ BR higher) achievements if you can't face anyone more than 1 BR higher than you?

    • @RedTail1-1
      @RedTail1-1 4 месяца назад +1

      .....
      I just realized.. It's to encourage people to squad up and take low BR vehicles into higher BR matches..

    • @a.e.richardson218
      @a.e.richardson218 4 месяца назад +1

      @@RedTail1-1 I WILL keep farming godmode you cannot stop me

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  3 месяца назад

      or to uptier their lowtier tanks

  • @milagroproductions5063
    @milagroproductions5063 4 месяца назад

    1 of ur youtube member in the intro is on my friends list lmao

  • @wafflefrfr
    @wafflefrfr 4 месяца назад +2

    this forum snitcher DOESN'T actually own any of the planes he reports 😭😭😭

    • @picklejarofdeath
      @picklejarofdeath 4 месяца назад

      That's a bold assertion. How do you know?

    • @wafflefrfr
      @wafflefrfr 4 месяца назад

      His player card is public, lmao
      @@picklejarofdeath

    • @picklejarofdeath
      @picklejarofdeath 4 месяца назад

      @@wafflefrfr what part of his card did you look at? lmao

    • @wafflefrfr
      @wafflefrfr 4 месяца назад

      @@picklejarofdeath i searched all of the planes he is reporting

    • @picklejarofdeath
      @picklejarofdeath 4 месяца назад

      @@wafflefrfr searched on what part of his player card? Did you check in game? You didn’t answer my question.

  • @nefarioulyte9996
    @nefarioulyte9996 4 месяца назад

    2:15 can someone transcribe whats said here? sounded like a bunch of gibberish

    • @darkatmos8877
      @darkatmos8877 Месяц назад

      What limits its top speed isn't engine power, but airframe strenght

  • @BugattiONE666
    @BugattiONE666 4 месяца назад +3

    Every single mig nerf is a good nerf. except all this means is an even more broken one os about to be added.

    • @lazer2238
      @lazer2238 4 месяца назад +18

      Lmao let’s see gaijin nerf US planes. Oh no everyone is balling their eyes out because the average US main is shit.

    • @BugattiONE666
      @BugattiONE666 4 месяца назад +1

      @@lazer2238 Thats they dont get nerfed, pilots do it for them

    • @TeamValkyrie2023
      @TeamValkyrie2023 4 месяца назад +4

      ​@@lazer2238 yep. Us mains are whiny cry babies

    • @miquelescribanoivars5049
      @miquelescribanoivars5049 4 месяца назад +1

      @@lazer2238 TBF the Crusaders might be next on the chopping block.

    • @thatoneguy1741
      @thatoneguy1741 4 месяца назад +2

      I mean we’ll still keep clubbing US premium fodder players regardless so

  • @Onezmhu
    @Onezmhu 4 месяца назад +15

    Yeah just put the bullshit tomcats at 12.0 and 12.3 already, so tired of fighting half a dozen of this skilless plane in my MiG-21 every uptier.
    Oh and still no F-16 FM nerf, because can't make US mains upset i guess. MiG-23, the nerf was understandable, but now it's just bullshit, the only thing the 21s have are their flight performances. What's next, nerfing the MiG-29s and Su-27, so the phantoms can dogfight them ? For fucks sake.

    • @cody1964
      @cody1964 4 месяца назад +4

      Tankie angrie

    • @Micro-Lander
      @Micro-Lander 4 месяца назад

      Tomcat aren't the best, they're a mix of both dogfighting and BVR, More so on the BVR side they're fine at 12.0 your migger 21 should go down to 10.7 counters the f5e and shit

    • @gangstercheesefries1112
      @gangstercheesefries1112 4 месяца назад

      Womp womp someone call the waahmbulence for crybaby Jones over here lmfao players like you are so short sighted for what you think deserves what when almost every plane is lacking and deserves a proper rework but sure make it a player base issue instead of blaming the company that put us in this position

    • @Infinite-INF
      @Infinite-INF 4 месяца назад +4

      "Skilless plane" oh im sorrrry, didnt know the AIM 9L / 9H plane that many times fights Su27s, F15A / Js, Gripens, F16Cs with a arguably worse flight preformance and IR missiles that eat flares instantly is so skilless

    • @lazer2238
      @lazer2238 4 месяца назад +2

      Can’t nerf something that brings the most money

  • @theproceedings4050
    @theproceedings4050 4 месяца назад

    Real question, when we getting the su 9?

  • @IceGuadian
    @IceGuadian 4 месяца назад +1

    the mig-21bis is very enjoyable as an ambush fighter
    the long flank is always worth it
    and also i will never understand why youtubers have such a hatred for the f-4jUK its not a bad aircraft at all
    makes me think all youtubers just have some bias toward it because every youtuber says it, or its some form of being spoiled, no clue

  • @calogerocimino7593
    @calogerocimino7593 4 месяца назад

    But gaijin didin't say nothing

  • @stebonblamcard1390
    @stebonblamcard1390 4 месяца назад +1

    Its funny cause in real life the. Mig 21 flew against the f15

  • @ETHANEllis-pg4xn
    @ETHANEllis-pg4xn 4 месяца назад

    Maybe they should put the ayit at 9.7 instead

  • @SoulSl0th
    @SoulSl0th 4 месяца назад

    Now do the f4s

  • @silkyzoid
    @silkyzoid 4 месяца назад +1

    Hallo Sebastian

  • @Loudward__
    @Loudward__ 4 месяца назад +4

    Poor Donut

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  4 месяца назад +1

      Me waiting for Gaijin to change more stuff after he makes a video

    • @firestar7890
      @firestar7890 4 месяца назад

      @@GeneralLee2000me when donut drops the f-4 video and gaijin proceeds to add 3 phantoms with fox 3s

  • @haroonmaqshar1258
    @haroonmaqshar1258 4 месяца назад

    first?

  • @Sunrised-zo8zy
    @Sunrised-zo8zy 4 месяца назад

    12th

  • @joshuamueller3206
    @joshuamueller3206 4 месяца назад

    Mig-21 at 4:00 "and?"

  • @bendawg8-wi4dr
    @bendawg8-wi4dr 4 месяца назад +1

    I say nerf the F-5 along with the 21/23 and move up the 12.0 BRs to 12.3, so only the F-5E FCU faces any F-16s. But also move up the the F-5E to 11.0 along with the Bis, but give it the Aim-9P4. Should slightly prevent 9.7 and help 11.0 both from facing hell in full uptiers. Probably not the best solution, but just an idea.
    Great vid Lee,

    • @a.e.richardson218
      @a.e.richardson218 4 месяца назад +1

      but also up the top br bracket to 15.0 and decompress from there instead

    • @bendawg8-wi4dr
      @bendawg8-wi4dr 4 месяца назад

      @@a.e.richardson218 15.0 is a bit excessive, with the introduction of ARH I could see potentially 14.0 however

  • @krayyk7629
    @krayyk7629 4 месяца назад

    So is it even worth getting the lazur m to grind the germsn tech tree? I hate the look of the tornado

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000  4 месяца назад +2

      Personally I would still rather get it than the Tornado, but I would wait and see what they do with it.

    • @proofostrich9061
      @proofostrich9061 4 месяца назад

      G91 R/4 is still the best value premium for Germany IMO. You just can’t grind the very highest tiers with it.

    • @TeamValkyrie2023
      @TeamValkyrie2023 4 месяца назад +1

      No, just grind the tree without a premium. You'll actually get better that way rather than skipping. I'm soooooo glad I didn't by the lazur in December. Patience saved me money and I still got to top tier

    • @proofostrich9061
      @proofostrich9061 4 месяца назад

      @@TeamValkyrie2023 Yeah grinding normally or with a premium account is way more valuable than premium vehicles imo.

    • @thatoneguy1741
      @thatoneguy1741 4 месяца назад

      Grinding the German air tree as my 3rd tree to complete, love the Lazur M , after completing two other full air trees, yeah nah, I just go back an spade the aircraft I like or I’ll put a talisman on something at a lower BR if I really like it

  • @cmdrTremyss
    @cmdrTremyss 4 месяца назад +2

    Good. Finally. Deserved.

  • @peanutraider8654
    @peanutraider8654 4 месяца назад +1

    Anti - Russian bias confirmed