FN SCAR 20s in 6.5 Creedmoor

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    In this episode, Ivan Loomis gives an in-depth review of the FN SCAR 20S. He shares his initial impressions, discusses its features, modifications, and specifications. He also recounts his experiences using the SCAR 20S in competitions, critiques the precision rifle stock issues, and explores aftermarket upgrades. The episode concludes with accuracy results, final thoughts, and future plans for the Scar 20S.
    Loadout
    SCAR 20s
    Q Jumbo Shrimp Silencer
    MotoTech Scarburator
    Parker Mountain Machine MLOK SCAR Rails
    Magpul MLOK Bipod
    Sawtooth Rifles ARCA Adapter
    Blue Force Gear U-Loop
    Tactical Distributors Lead Sling-Er
    Primary Arms SLx 3-18
    Mount
    Prometheus Design Werx AG Watch Cap
    PDW Paladin Hoodie
    0:00 Introduction and Initial Impressions of the Scar 20S
    3:41 Detailed Review: Features and Modifications
    6:27 Scar 20S in Action: Experiences and Competitions
    11:17 Deep Dive: Specifications and Weight
    14:23 Critiques: Precision Rifle Stock and Issues
    17:38 Further Analysis: Controls, Handle Options, and Receiver
    18:50 Aftermarket Upgrades for Scar 20S
    21:22 Testing and Accuracy Results
    29:30 Final Thoughts and Future Plans for Scar 20S
    33:12 Closing Remarks and Patreon Mention
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  • @KitBadger
    @KitBadger  6 месяцев назад +1

    You can find links to everything here: kitbadger.com/fn-scar-20s-in-6-5-creedmoor/
    And questions answered here: www.patreon.com/KitBadger

  • @Glandash
    @Glandash 6 месяцев назад +29

    What a dope looking rifle. FN’s reluctance to support these on the civilian market is a shame.

    • @AKlover
      @AKlover 6 месяцев назад +3

      You can buy an entry level motorcycle for the price of this gun and the FIRST OPTIC WHICH IT WILL ALMOST CERTAINLY BREAK due to it's "Tuning Fork" trait. Buy the motorcycle instead, more useful and it will give you more actual use. That said I almost applaud the contempt FN shows to fanboys via the ludicrous price. A fool and his money soon part and very often should part.

    • @digitalpunk5365
      @digitalpunk5365 6 месяцев назад +6

      The motorcycle will be a depreciating asset and more likely to kill you than then the rifle, but I agree with you on everything.

    • @ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz
      @ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz 6 месяцев назад

      The SCAR as a concept is why I feel confident in the AR platform. The SCAR-H is why ive been debating between an HK91 copy or MARS-H pattern AR10.

    • @AKlover
      @AKlover 6 месяцев назад

      @@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz Unless you are notably over 6ft tall and have large long hands PASS ON THE 91, yes I own one. Also if you are A handloader the 91s fluted chamber damages A noticeable portion of the brass used. AR-10s = Dice Roll or coin flip

    • @justink1274
      @justink1274 3 месяца назад

      ​@@AKloveris this bait?

  • @jimmyvancleef3593
    @jimmyvancleef3593 6 месяцев назад +9

    FN explicitly says they won't warrantee suppressed scars. The civilian model has different gas jets than the mk20. Good call with the scarburetor. The stock gas valve will destroy the receiver. And agreed, the stock pisses me off too

  • @rocco9216
    @rocco9216 6 месяцев назад +3

    I think the pic rail on the sides make a lot of sense so you can have a clip on taking up your top rail space and you can have a IR laser/ ir illuminator on the side

  • @CobraShuttle
    @CobraShuttle 4 месяца назад +1

    I've has this gun with the 140gr Hornady ELD Matcha and SOCOM supressor. Cosnistent .25-.5" groups at 100 yards. Just hit 200 rounds, no malfunctions. Impressed!

  • @SpecOpsGear
    @SpecOpsGear 6 месяцев назад +10

    Scars are very accurate, love my 17s in 308. Picky about gas pressure when suppressed but once you get it set it's amazing and reliable.
    I agree about the dumb quad rails, i put a pmag lower on mine as well.

    • @dustbustr91
      @dustbustr91 6 месяцев назад +1

      picky about gas pressure is contrary to reliable

    • @SpecOpsGear
      @SpecOpsGear 6 месяцев назад

      @@dustbustr91 how many high back pressure suppressors do you run?

    • @ghost101049
      @ghost101049 4 месяца назад +1

      did you have to modify your mag release to get the AR10 / SR25 mags to work?

    • @SpecOpsGear
      @SpecOpsGear 4 месяца назад

      @@ghost101049 i'm running an aftermarket billet lower on mine

    • @MUCKLEECH
      @MUCKLEECH 3 месяца назад

      @@ghost101049 I'm pretty sure you need a new lower to use sr25 mags.

  • @westincarey9814
    @westincarey9814 6 месяцев назад +3

    Can't deny the Scar drip!

  • @MagicPrepper
    @MagicPrepper 6 месяцев назад +1

    Great video brother.

  • @krawator
    @krawator 6 месяцев назад +3

    deadshot barrels got you covered for shorter barrel…. :) got one, came with mlok lower rail installed….does the job very well

  • @johnqpublic2718
    @johnqpublic2718 6 месяцев назад +5

    0.491 MOA with a can on, dang man!

  • @CashmereJungleLord
    @CashmereJungleLord 6 месяцев назад +1

    Awesome video as usual. Thanks for all the info. I have the 308 and will get a scar-burator after watching this.

    • @MSSynsyterGates
      @MSSynsyterGates 6 месяцев назад

      Yeah its a must if you plan on suppressing it.

  • @officertwentynine7598
    @officertwentynine7598 6 месяцев назад +2

    That setup would do great at Ben Franklin Range in PA!

  • @ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz
    @ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz 6 месяцев назад

    If youre new to rifles or brakes: I installed a Xeno brake on my ARs to run a can (DA recommends brakes even though i dont like them) and the first time i fired with the brake my gun didnt move. Its a 12.5 carbine so it normally has a bit of a sharp, if relatively minor, jump to it. Brass went out the side, my hair moved in the muzzle blast, the range went quiet for a moment, but the rifle stayed damn near perfectly still.
    Brakes can make you feel like you should be shouting "backblast area clear" with every shot, but they do 100% work as advertized. I cant personally recommend them but only because they tend to work too well.

  • @FatShadow56
    @FatShadow56 6 месяцев назад +1

    I got to fire one of the earlier scar-s. Didnt run it long enough to love it or hate it. It did seem a little picky with certain ammo, but it was surprisingly easy to put rounds on target. 6.5 Sounds like a great upgrade from .308.

  • @A8vscRrabbit
    @A8vscRrabbit 6 месяцев назад +9

    2 of my buddies have scarh/17 & 20. Both of those things are...unbelievably accurate. With hand loads doing clover leaf patterns at 100. I simply would not believe it if i never got to shoot them myself. That being said they are too buku for my peasant ass.

    • @ghost101049
      @ghost101049 4 месяца назад

      Do you know the recipe for the handloads? Shooting 6.5 or 308?

    • @A8vscRrabbit
      @A8vscRrabbit 4 месяца назад

      ​@@ghost101049simply develop them with experimenting. What might work in 1 rifle might not work in another

  • @Modern_Warrior_School
    @Modern_Warrior_School 2 месяца назад +1

    Personally, I've never been a fan of the SCAR platform, but neat to see what you've done with it. I'm hopefully going to grab a PWS Mk218 in 6.5cm one of these years which should be a bit more my speed.

  • @dennis1979gm
    @dennis1979gm 6 месяцев назад +4

    Do they still have the policy of you suppress it you void the warranty?

  • @peachfuds
    @peachfuds 6 месяцев назад +1

    Throw some Lucas Fishing Reel Oil on those screws. The rust will stay away.

  • @MUCKLEECH
    @MUCKLEECH 3 месяца назад +1

    Shout out to Rock Lake Rifle Range! Best long range facility in eastern Washington/north Idaho

  • @brazzy1467
    @brazzy1467 6 месяцев назад +3

    SCAR's are cool concepts but I'll stick to my AR-10's in 308/7.62.

    • @paul-yu8kl
      @paul-yu8kl 3 месяца назад +1

      Ar1.10 & 15 FN

    • @masterhacker7065
      @masterhacker7065 27 дней назад

      considering that 6.5 is better at any range thats dumb. Only problem with this dudes build is putting a $500 shitter optic on a $6000 rifle

  • @rdsii64
    @rdsii64 6 месяцев назад

    I wish other companies would build semi-auto rifles with CHROME LINED 6.5 Creedmoor barrels. My AR10 has a chrome lined barrel from Criterion that has around 7K rounds on it. It still shoots as tight as the day it was brand new. Having said that, I don't abuse my rifle but I don't baby it either. I love their chrome line hybrid profile barrel so much I'm willing to shoot 308 because they don't make a chrome lined 6.5 barrel.

  • @loganshaffer7034
    @loganshaffer7034 6 месяцев назад +6

    Obviously the stock rattles BECAUSE YOU SHOT IT SUPPRESSED IVAN 🙃 the Belgians are not pleased….

  • @v8esprit
    @v8esprit 6 месяцев назад +1

    Did you ever experience any pierced primers on your spent brass? I have a Scar 20 6.5CM Reciprocating, and it pierces primers... I'd love to hear from you. I'm awaiting submitting it for warranty work.

  • @gavinsloma
    @gavinsloma 6 месяцев назад +3

    Why is FN so strange about their guns even HK is not that odd about stuff

  • @RyanLackey
    @RyanLackey 6 месяцев назад

    Would it make sense to get a second identical can to cool one while shooting the other?

  • @shannonmarcantel7993
    @shannonmarcantel7993 3 месяца назад

    If you bounce between lead or jacketed ammo and solid copper for hunting you need to strip the barrel to bare metal prior to shooting solid copper otherwise your groups will be shit.

  • @jackcoakley2848
    @jackcoakley2848 6 месяцев назад

    Would you prefer this or an ADM UIC10a?

  • @MS-1994
    @MS-1994 6 месяцев назад

    Where is the course that you showed the clips from (i.e., the wadi, the uphill engagement, the truck bed, etc.)? Thanks.

    • @SuperOtter13
      @SuperOtter13 6 месяцев назад +1

      Desert brutality put on by in-range.

  • @rocco9216
    @rocco9216 6 месяцев назад

    That rifle is sexy I would like to see a video comparing this to the sr25

  • @coles.1524
    @coles.1524 5 месяцев назад

    Trying to decide between a 20S or a Seekins SP10

  • @garyjohns4711
    @garyjohns4711 6 месяцев назад

    Wouldnt useing a can wrap eliminate mirrage???

  • @notyoaveragejosay1577
    @notyoaveragejosay1577 6 месяцев назад +1

    Have you had issues with the rifle ripping out primers like Mac did on his review

    • @blackhawkninjabeast
      @blackhawkninjabeast 6 месяцев назад +1

      They fixed fixed that issue on the 6.5 guns

    • @notyoaveragejosay1577
      @notyoaveragejosay1577 6 месяцев назад

      @blackhawkninjabeast would you happen to know if it's fixed on the barrel assembly or did they make a new bolt I'm asking because I already have a 20s but in 308 and I'm intrested in getting the barrel assembly for 6.5 creedmoor

  • @user-jv4ic8rh4d
    @user-jv4ic8rh4d 6 месяцев назад

    Most of the guns that beat themselves to death are because of that reciprocating sledgehammer. If you have both adjustable gas block and the NRCH odds are pretty low.

  • @Kobriks1
    @Kobriks1 6 месяцев назад +1

    Scar-20 sucking without supressor is a well known fact.

  • @bradchenoweth7584
    @bradchenoweth7584 6 месяцев назад +1

    LOL Friends let their friends run their cans so they don't have to be subjected to their muzzle brakes. :P

  • @Largepapa2
    @Largepapa2 6 месяцев назад

    They make a DMR now in 6.5. Might as well just buy another gun by the time you are done with all of those mods. PSA has it for under 3k

  • @elijahanderson6736
    @elijahanderson6736 6 месяцев назад +4

    With all the issue, imagine buying a 1k PSA M110 clone getting the same groups and better accuracy(or the same). It’s hard to justify the price deposited it being a nice rifle.

    • @khaanadian9648
      @khaanadian9648 6 месяцев назад +2

      The SCAR is a $5k hunk of shit. You could spend a couple thousand less on an LMT 308 and get a much better rifle while also having less proprietary parts.

    • @blackhawkninjabeast
      @blackhawkninjabeast 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@khaanadian9648 I have all the 3 and I like my lmt but If you think the scar is piece of shit just say you’re poor

    • @khaanadian9648
      @khaanadian9648 6 месяцев назад

      @@blackhawkninjabeast It's not a complete hunk of shit but my point is you can get a better rifle for less money. I'd rather buy an LMT that takes commonly available SR25 pattern mags and AR15 accessories than spend $5k on a SCAR. The SCAR is a cool rifle no doubt, it just makes more logistical sense for me to buy something else.

    • @ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz
      @ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz 6 месяцев назад

      Id vote LMT is someone in the states wanted a 308 gun. Pricy but well vetted, and theres a reason theyre slow to change their catalog.

    • @blackhawkninjabeast
      @blackhawkninjabeast 6 месяцев назад

      @@khaanadian9648 fair enough I actually prefer the scar if you aren’t considering price. Palmetto had a deal on a 6.5 creedmore scar dmr for 2999 with a stock you can easily sell for 600$ and already comes with a giessle trigger.

  • @20alroco
    @20alroco 6 месяцев назад

    Picatinny rails are superior to all mounting systems. I would think a tactical Chad like yourself would be aware of ladder rail covers. BCM and Magpul make some great ones, they even have different colors.

  • @michaelhill6451
    @michaelhill6451 6 месяцев назад +2

    15:09 Unacceptable!

  • @TheTGRproductions
    @TheTGRproductions 5 месяцев назад

    Scar's are definitely sexy looking guns, but not at those prices! And the fact FN will void your warranty if you supress your Scar is absolutely abysmal to say the least. With that in mind, I'll stick to AR-10's and AK's.

  • @jonathanwick1265
    @jonathanwick1265 6 месяцев назад +1

    All the quad rail fans punching the air right now LOL

  • @sidehustlers336
    @sidehustlers336 Месяц назад

    I have a scar. Not really impressed on its accuracy. Reliable yes. Just not a tack driver. I know it’s not supposed to be one.

  • @taylormartin4346
    @taylormartin4346 6 месяцев назад

    The SCAR, in all iterations, is a rifle where each individual component looks great on paper and then you pair them all together and it's just the most mediocre rifle possible (for the price they charge for it). Extruded aluminum reciever and they want $4500 for this gun. That is insane

  • @craigjohnson6141
    @craigjohnson6141 6 месяцев назад

    5 moa for the average 308/ 7.62x51? I suppose that's why that cartridge was used in DMRs and sniper rifles during the GWOT and in earlier conflicts.

    • @vale.r4214
      @vale.r4214 6 месяцев назад +3

      He was probably taking about the military surplus 7.62 and not the military "higher-grade" m118lr

    • @timewave02012
      @timewave02012 6 месяцев назад

      @@vale.r4214 Only the worst milsurp is that bad, and certainly new manufacture .308 isn't, which until recently was significantly cheaper than 6.5.

    • @chemistryofquestionablequa6252
      @chemistryofquestionablequa6252 6 месяцев назад

      @@vale.r4214since the standard for military service rifles (not dmr or sniper rifles obviously) the standard accuracy is about 3moa generally. 5 is unacceptable, it would have to be really awful surplus.

  • @platapus112
    @platapus112 6 месяцев назад +3

    Scars are great, fns support isn't.

  • @klass078
    @klass078 6 месяцев назад +2

    SCARS are cool to look at and talk about for sure. But “battle rifles?” It sounds like they have more special needs than combat typically affords.

  • @christineharris9183
    @christineharris9183 6 месяцев назад

    Not many people want them either

  • @singlo7453
    @singlo7453 6 месяцев назад

    At the end, it sounds like he wants to turn this into SCAR 17? Just sell it an dbuy the 17?

  • @michaelhill6451
    @michaelhill6451 6 месяцев назад +1

    It's crazy how poorly it shot without a can. My $500 PSA AR-15 shoots better than that.