The 2023 Angels Were an Absolute Disaster
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- To have a shot at keeping Shohei Ohtani, the Angels to be contenders in 2023, then everything went wrong. The Los Angeles Angels were faced with a make or break season, set on convincing two way superstar Shohei Ohtani that they could help him make and compete in the playoffs. But in a year where they couldn't afford many mistakes, the Angels were destroyed by injuries, one of their highest paid players made headlines for all the wrong reasons, and the front office made the kind of decisions that set a franchise back years. Let's take a look at the Angels 2023 season, and how this disaster of a season cost them the best player in baseball, and so much more.
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MLB is weird. People hate Ohtani for going to the Dodgers but hate Trout for being loyal and staying with his team.
People just hate on the dodgers because they owners do what all these fans tell they owners to do . Then It’s not fair the dodgers always spending money lol backwards ass fans man
Nobody hates ohtani for signing with the dodgers. They hate the deal that the dodgers made to loophole the luxury tax
Ohtani went to the rival team, but can the Angels call themselves a worthy rival when they never make it to the playoffs. Ohtani wants to be in a team that had higher chances of making it to the WS. He wants to win, can’t blame him.
@@0kiryu7angels and dodgers aren’t really rivals imo they’re in separate leagues and don’t play each other often
Exactly! People just love to hate the Dodgers. But are perfectly fine that one of the worst organizations wasted 6 years of the prime of the best player in baseball plus the whole career of the 2nd best
As someone who knows basically nothing about baseball but recently started being curious about it because Ohtani is cool, this video was super helpful. You actually make it easy to understand and fun to listen to. Thanks!!
It’s arte moreano. Jersey sales > a good baseball team
A good baseball team. ARE YOU KIDDING ME.
Since 2009, the Angels have consistently ranked 4th-11th in league payroll, but only have one playoff appearance and zero playoff wins to show for it. They need a total overhaul starting from the top; a big market team spending that much money every year has no business being this awful for so long.
Think Arte could ever hire a front office that can get it done, or does it start with him selling the team?
Sell the team and move cites. No competing with the dodgers in the next decade.
@@chunkymonkey428moving cities is such a dumb take bro 🤦♂️ angels aren’t in LA and they’re top 50% in attendance they need new owners not a new location
@@Chinchuchwei_sr no fan they need a whole new location you know damn well Anaheim is not on the same level as LA and the Dodgers are just getting bigger. At this point I think the Angel should just move the hell out of California as well.😂
@@iampage2089 typical brain rot dodgers fan 😂 the halos are still top 50% in team attendance from a business standpoint why would you move away from an established market it makes no sense bro they just need new owners
Many think that it's Ohtani fault or could have traded him sooner before the free agent. But do you know that whilst Shohei kept on improving & consistently doing both jobs at the elite level without the balance of rest days and complaints; the management couldn't bring new best players that work harmoniously to improve their team's performances because they have players who are earning the high salaries that choke/paralyze them? The worst part is when the high-earning players get injured. Even though Shohei had injuries, he desired to recover fast ASAP so he could help his team. He doesn't even have enough rest days and badly desires to win for the team and their supporters. But, what can you do if the organization is consistently being complacent?
To all those who are still bitter that Shohei moved to The Dodgers (they have been trying to recruit him when he was 10), you should stop thinking and feeling that 'cause it's a sign of an unhealthy mind. You should be happy for someone to advance his career. After all, he did his best for the Angels even though his salary was not much for someone who brought profits to the organization. Shohei never and will never be badmouth the Angels. Remember, he was the one who chose the Angels intentionally and he did his work exceptionally. Let go, Shohei, and send him with a grateful heart.
They need a new owner. The lack of player development, the directive to never rebuild when it has been obvious that it was needed, not signing good pitchers, and the horrible contracts are all due to one Arturo Moreno. Sell the team, Arte.
He refuses to sell it.
They need a lot more than just a new owner.
As a Huge Angels fan.. I find this video accurate and hilarious. The only thing you're missing, Ohtani DID want to stay with the Angels, The Angels DIDN'T want to match or beat the offer from the Dodgers so he left. That's straight from Ohtani.
Your common is correct.
I'm surprised many other LAA fans have resentment.
Ohtani is a bigger idiot than I would’ve thought then
Also, Ohtani, had two Tommy John's surgeries so the Angels know something about Ohtani's injuries and will not discuss it to the Dodgers.
It was a dumb move to not trade him but shaming a team for going for it imo is counter-intuitive. This is what fans constantly clamore for, it just went as bad as it possibly could for the angels.
it is a lose-lose situation for the organization either way.
I go back and forth with this, but ultimately, I think the front office deserves to be shamed. Insanity is repeating the same behavior and expecting a different result. There is absolutely no way you can convince me that their second half of 2023 was going to miraculously produce a different outcome than their last 10 years, half with Ohtani and half without. I was rooting for them after the decision to not sell Ohtani, but they should have sold Ohtani. This isn't 20/20 hindsight as I fully expected them to sell him, because I didn't think they would be insane enough to keep him and think they could win it all.
@@chrismason4224If they were going to trade him, they should’ve done it the year before, the return for Ohtani wasn’t going to be the same with a little bit of time left in his contract, at best a prospect that would be lucky to touch the majors. Remember they made a couple trades at the deadline to bring in Giolito, Reynaldo Lopez, and a bat I can’t remember so they were completely going for it which was great to see as an Angels fan even if in hindsight it wasn’t successful. The team won’t change until Arte Moreno leaves.
It's so dumb if they traded him though, they will be made fun of for NOT GETTING ENOUGH when the prospects they get bust.
Gm couldn't win
Bad take. They deserve all the shame. They seriously looked at an injury prone roster that didn’t have a winning record versus above .500 teams last season and decided to go all in hopes of making the 3rd wildcard, just to let Ohtani walk away for nothing. This organization literally couldn’t be more inept if they tried
The Angels of the last decade have been the best team to never actually be good.
Good way to put it haha, you think they can turn it around?
disagree as an angels fan. Three good players then the rest belong in AAAA
@@SmartrBaseball probably not this year, maybe if they can rebuild their farm system
Padres might be next
miserable team.
So much money and talent wasted on the Angels. Injuries have kept them from their full potential. They had the 2 greatest players of this generation in Trout and Ohtani and couldn't get out of their own way. Now Ohtani is a Dodger and Trout is stuck on a bad Angels team.
As a lifetime Angels fan this is a good video I am sad that Ohtani left not bitter at all, I hate the Dodgers for many reasons but I dont blame him going there Im thankful for all his effort he tried for us and gave us his all in Anaheim, as for Trout him staying means alot to Anaheim but sucks we cant give him a ring because of Arte being such a shitshow. This video perfectly summed up the video, I think the game that sums up life as an Angels game was when we faced the Rays Ohtani hit a grand slam and we got a Triple play and still lost the game I went to that game in person.
As an Angels fan, I couldn't agree more and it was a great video 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
It’s only matter of time before the Angels will finish 58-104.
This is my bold prediction above. 1st 100-loss season in the franchise history.
This year prob…
I grew up in Orange County and the Angels had some good teams, once Artie bought them and changed the name to LAA everything went downhill. I find it ironic Ohtani signed with the LAD. It’s easy to see the problems the Angels, an owner who only cares about image issues. Watching this team for 4 decades the Angels haven’t had a decent pitching rotation since the Ryan, Weaver, Langston days. My hope is that Artie sells this team…..
This is the worst team I have ever seen, even worse than the 90 loss one from a few years ago. All these signings and at the end of the year they’re gone, I been knowing Ohtani was gonna leave, management knew the time was running out and they didn’t care even when he said he wants to win. This team enters 2024 as the least improved team that a 100 loss season ain’t that far out. All Moreno cared about was the money that came in. If the fans stopped attending games, he would’ve sold the team already. I’m a die hard fan and lately I’ve stopped caring because this teams doesn’t give a reason to make fans even care. Whose jersey will you see more apart from Trout this year?? Fans need to stop attending games and that itself will be a clear message to Moreno, even so what reason do fans have to even attend games anymore, Ohtani is gone, the team is nothing but random players who aren’t developed yet, and guaranteed Trout won’t play the full season, I’m not even gonna mention Rendon. My only small faith is Ron Washington, but then again look at all the managers that have come and gone since Mike left. This franchise won’t see a winning season until passed 2027 and won’t see the playoffs until deep into the 2030’s and that’s the sad reality. There’s no leadership from anyone.
Since 2021-2023 People have been using the “Trout and Ohtani” card to wonder why the angels suck. Even though in 21 trout was out majority of the season, and was hurt in 22 and 23. Ohtani and Trout are the only good players on the angels and people wonder why we suck. On top of having no pitchers trout has been injury prone and u can’t expect even ohtani to carry this bad of a team.
At one point of the season Artie was ready to sell but his family begged him not to do it cue Angels fans being 😡😡😡 that he didn't do it
Shohei Ohtani has been active for more than three times his annual salary while with the Angels, but Anthony Rendon has not been active for even one-tenth of his annual salary.
Rendon is the root of all the evils of the Angels' slump
thats not true. he signed in 2020. angels sucked way before that
“Arte Moreno” is the name you’re looking for
He might at least be tolerable if he was charming and humble, but he is the exact opposite.
He's a Chollo with a glove. If not for baseball he'd be doing street takeovers
The angels have more than enough money to build well rounded roster’s it’s insane that they continue making the same blunder year after year. It’s like they don’t understand baseball
As a fellow Mariners fan, Trout currently reminds me a lot of Ichiro. A amazing player who has wasted his best years on a team not worth playing for. Really do hope he gets traded to a team capable of winning him a ring.
Where I'm from, I'm in no way knows anything about baseball but I know Ohtani and Trout highlights here and there. I was expecting their team is like super good - a champion or something, I didn't know they hadn't won anything. That's a surprise not gonna lie. I guess we learn something new every day huh
Starting out in the season i was excited with guys like ohoppe, urshela, estevez, and later guys like moniak schanuel, and of course trout and ohtani. Then injures struck and everything fell apart as the mid players just averaged out
Fan since 1972 but this season is on track to make 2023 seem semi-enjoyable. At least then we had Trout/Ohtani. We have ZERO this year. Shohei gone, Trout and RendonE on the DL AGAIN!
We could set the new record for all time loses this year
Saying this team was held together by duct tape gives duct tape a bad name lol
I meant no disrespect, and would never knowingly tarnish the great reputation duct tape has earned itself. I apologize for my actions and will go sit in the corner and think about what I've done.
It's been said many times this team needs a complete rebuild. As you mentioned, building around Ohtani and Trout should have happened 6 years ago but Arte and the FO were too inept to see that.
Arte needs to go
Wish I could say I feel bad for Trout but I’m not. He chose to stay with that contract extension. I can respect him staying but I can’t say I feel bad. He chose to stay in an abusive relationship. We love Darren McCaughan!
Thank you for making this - Angels fan
Told my buddy that was a angels fan that the team needed to completely rebuild back in 2018 in order for them to have a shot at contending but they seemed to think the answer was to keep signing these shiny new toys to long contracts and then in 2022 I told him you better trade ohtani cuz he’s coming to the dodgers if he reaches free agency they were like nahhhh we’re so close to making the playoffs lmao 🤣
I agree with you. I noticed Angels fans are incompetence like Arte while watching Angels game and supporting Ohtani for 3years. Essentially, their statements always seemed dim-witted.
Bros you’re acting like most teams would make the playoffs in back to back years when they use 66 players in back to back years lol
@@smellyfly9469 so even more reason to trade ohtani?
Angels having one of the worst farm system and couldnt develop players consistently to help the depths of the team is mainly the main reason why they just couldnt compete. Arte Moreno isnt interested to develop and instead perry pinching in some areas (esp coaching and minor league system) and spent the money for aging players was certainly a choice.
Its easy to say that on opening and at least until June that they're not bad team (esp if either Trout or Ohtani is healthy) but after that their lineup is 75% consist of SaltBees ft Trash Pandas, and they're not that good either. They even need to draft more college-ready-to-play player like Neto and Schanuel because they need they to stand as major leaguer asap, but also the lack of trust to develop. Couple of report also mentioned that they dont want to hire some coachs and scouts. Couldnt see how they can be better moving forward as long as Arte still be their owner.
As Ohtani fan first, following angels was never easy. Its entertaining. Awful. But sometimes good. Good bless for them, the fans deserves better. Interesting to see how scenery gonna change for Ohtani now.
As a Dodgers fan, I shouldn’t care about the Anaheim Angels. In fact, I should be laughing at them! Years of trying to take the LA market from us like we didn’t exist only to flame out into this should be hilarious to me.
But for the love of all things baseball, SOMEONE GET RID OF ARTE MORENO! I haven’t seen an owner make so many bad moves in a row, you’d think he’s doing it on purpose! He’s the MLB version of Jerry Jones, thinking he’s smarter than anyone in the room and knows what’s best, but at least Jerry knows how to develop players and has hardware under his belt. The day he decided not to sell the team at the start of 2023, I knew this was gonna be a disaster, but I never could have predicted this!
@@fantasyEXX And yet despite all of that, I am just grateful I am not an Angels fan, where the only fanbase that can actually say they have it worse is Oakland.
being a fan of this team really is hell on earth
Same with the white Sox.
The injuries really derailed a playoff caliber team. The only criticism is the Grichuk/Trout draft. As they had back-to-back picks it really is irrelevant who they drafted first. In fact, it would make more sense to take who you like more second because of drat slot compensation.
Nothing will improve as long as Arte Moreno owns the team and he refuses to sell. The man is incompetent, self-absorbed and does not give one shit about the team, its fans or its future. A lot of people are expecting he's purposely tanking the team in order to move it out of Anaheim. It's like Georgia Frontiere and the Rams all over again.
Great video
I subscribed as soon as you said that you were Mariners fan
We're in this together brother
This is SPOT-ON! I've been an Angels fan since 1980. This is as bad as it has ever been.
I'm baffled that Arte hasn't sold the team yet. A massive emberrasment.
He want dem 💰💰💰💰
Great video you made. Do you think the dodgers are done adding players to the roster?
Fellow mariner fan here GO MARINERS!!
Arte needs to sell the team and trade trout to a contender like the dodgers or the Phillies build the future most of all Arte needs to go!!!!!
Dodgers don’t want trout for his price tag unless arte eats the majority of it. Arte isn’t selfless for that
The CJ wilson twitters says all about the franchise. I didn't know it was bad bad like that.
Shohei endured this worthless shit team for 6 years. He had a right to move from this manure field out to winnable one and realised it. Shameless Moreno and Minassian. And did Trout, franchised player, do anything effective to improve the situation?
LAA will stay in this hell suffering long-term 5 to 6 seasons agony.
I have no remorse for Ohtani’s decision. The man is glorious and i wish him nothing but the best. But holy hell Arte Moreno is such a shitty owner. Like, sell the team, put it BACK to Anaheim Angels, and we can actually get this fuckin ball rolling again.
12:40 “Then the baseball gods immediately bitch slapped them for this decision”.
That made me laugh.
Broken hamate bone sidelined Jr in 95, but the Ms kept winning and Jr came back and resumed his Role as the Best Player in Baseball. Poor Mike Trout. He IS the modern day Ken Griffey Jr/ Willie Mays as a Once in a Generation Superstar Centerfielder!!!!
For what it’s worth, Suarez was never hurt.
Also this video has zero mention about ohtani’s subpar year on the mound, his problem with the long ball, and the fact that the clubhouse was 24 and 1. Good luck to him.
Getting over being a fan after being a life long fan
Trout has had all the chances to leave the Angels but always chooses to stay. He doesn’t care about what happens as long as he’s getting paid.
As an English fan just getting into the mlb what team would be good to support,the current teams im intrested in is the New York yankees,the dodgers or the mariners
Dodgers would be good. As a lifetime fan growing up I can tell you all about the time.
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Dodgers never said they wouldn’t let him play both ways. The NL simply didn’t have the DH at the time so he would’ve been forced to play the OF, which he preferred not to do
As a Dodger fan even I feel bad for Angels fans but step one has to be forcing Arte to sell the team
Because the Yankee's signed Mark Texiera, As compensation to the Angels for the the loss of Texiera the Yankee's first round pick No.25 went to Anaheim which enabled them to pick Trout.
Arte Moreno needs to sell the team already if he's not interested in building a winner. The 2023-2024 offseason has showed that.
The 2023 Angels were terrible. The 2024 Angels said, “Hold my beer.”
EX angels fan here they can rightfully f off and move out of Anaheim already, OC fans don't want them there anymore
Oh shut up you were never a fan lol
As an Angels fan, i am predicting they lose 120 games this season for one of the worst seasons in MLB History
Good Video kinda but tons of mis information Ohtabi never get a second tj mikcye did not fall off what so ever he cooled down a little sure but he playing hurt he heated back up to end year when his foot healed
They need a Troy Glaus and a Tim Salmon again.
2022 Angels were worse. Though they had the same record both years, they finished 33 games back in 2022. They can blame the Mariners both years though. In 2022 that brawl at the end of June basically ended the Angels' season while kick starting the Mariners season. While the four game sweep in the beginning of August 2023 spelled their doom for the second year in a row.
They killed the ms in 22 in 23 they only lost because they were injured as hell and esteves sucks lol
@smellyfly9469 while the head-to-head games between the mariners and the angels in 2022 may favor the Angels, the season certainly didn't
Wild part is that the rookies were the bust part of the team outside of trout and Ohtani
Halos fan here. Yup it sucks. M's are my backup team but last year you guys couldnt even make it. Only team that gave houston problems last year ill give ya that
A white Sox fan as entered the chat
"Back up team" bro, just go.. that's not a fan
The team needs to focus on drafting and player development. Build up their farm system first. Get some home grown talent that can compete and fill in those missing pieces with free agents. Super easy to do. It should only take a couple of months
The angels should of traded him to a contender to get something and it would of been a good test for him to get some playoff experience under his belt.
Ohtani will age quick. Mike Trout is Unbelievable. Serious, as far as Im concerned. There are 3 Truly Great Centerfielders in Baseball history. Willie Mays, Ken Griffey Jr and Mike Trout. Im a Mariner fan so Im not an Angel Homer.
Arte is the problem
That lahey reference 😂
Do the mariners next
Art Moreno please watch moneyball…. Pleaaaasssseee even a RUclips short of moneyball would help the team rn cause 2024 season isn’t looking any different
Angels just got that mierda touch. If you had a Time Machine and brought the 1998 American League All Star Team and had them play for the Angels they’d still manage to finish under .500.
They drafted trout second for contract and financial reasons
Arte Moreno's ego is the reason why they let Ohtani go for nothing. He couldve completely GUTTED my Dodgers farm system and get some MLB-ready talent from them for Ohtani, but he refused to make a deal with them. Muchas gracias Arturo 😂
Who would you pay?
1) $245mil to Anthony Rendon hitting 22 homers in 4 seasons
2) $700m to Ohtani hitting 171 in 5 seasons and having 38 wins as a pitcher.
Ohtani. Rendon can go back to the nationals or some shit team
The Angels are always a disaster.
I always think that angels are just wasting trout's career
Like imagine, you met someone new at baseball, interested after seeing Ohtani in WBC and naturally they said "I like the Angels because Ohtani is there". They put high hopes, especially after the they said "We're pushing for Playoff" and keep their hopes up. Only to see how pathetic the becomes and can't get out of that shitty ass organization because they fell in love with Mike Trout too and cussing off to Ohtani for "Betraying baseball fans" for signing with the Dodgers. This off season they get Ron Wash from Braves and could get these all stars players like belli-bomb and Snellzilla but they are too dumb to make that decision and sign the minor deals first cuz why tf not.
And that person is me, too deep to leave, too painful to stay. I just wanna see a playoff run (and coping as hard as possible reaching the WS) in 2024 for the Angels. Nice knowing you
Ownership matters
I’m an Angel fan. I was hoping this video would have weight to it like some other videos I’ve watched about the Angels. This video doesn’t provide how bad this season or the last decade really have been though.
The Angels just could never get Starting Pitching right.
Everyone who signs with the Angel's goes there to cash in and retire early.
Why do people feel sorry for Mike Trout. He knew this was the likely outcome when he resigned there.
If the Angels didn’t trade pitching prospects over the last 10 years, some of this would have been justified. But unfortunately it’s just infuriating to look at them and yell stop trading pitching prospects. Former examples of prospects traded that have had decent careers include as following: Patrick Corbin, Mike Clevinger, Will Smith (relief pitcher), Tyler Skaggs, and unfortunately the list goes on if you really look. So the trading of more pitching prospects that resulted into the 2023 disaster, I laugh in their faces because of the joke their franchise is. It is an utter embarrassment and infuriating to have Mike Trout and Shohei Ohtani on the same team and they can’t accomplish shit because of the mess around them. Fuck the Angels and sell the team to somebody who knows what they’re doing. Even the A’s have won a playoff game in the last 10 years, absolutely pathetic.
Artie Moreno should be fired.
They didn’t trade ohanti for a package and lost him to the Dodgers . Horrible just horrible
You get rid of arte Moreno and you fix the Angels but that's easier said than done
Another video that just chooses to continue to shit on the Angels without delving into the real issues with the Angels. Blaming the FO is the easy cop out way to point out the Angels downfalls. Do more research and you'll find that the Angels, much like the A's are the result of a cheap, greedy owner. While the A's refuse to play their players, the Angels refuse to pay for good coaching, development, scouting, minor league player treatment, saber matricians, and player research. The FO is working with what they have while under the pressure of owner who refuses to spend money in a just important aspect of an MLB team, but still wants results.
10:12 lol
not that I believe in curses… but that team is actually cursed
😂 do the 2023 Padres next
They've been a complete disaster for a lot longer than just 2023 brother. 😂
Before we go shit talk the Angels for passing on Mike Trout...so did everyone else.
Just sayin'
Arte Moreno is the frank McCourt of the dodgers from 5 years ago!! He needs to let go and move on!!!
A fracture and a bruise is same thing it was a stress fracture same thing as a deep bone bruise
Suarez was dogshit. His stint on the IL was made up because they didn’t want to play him as he was awful.
Not even Angels can help this team lol
Arte Moreno is a curse
Trout is fine. He wanted this.
ANTHONY RENDON WILL NOW BE THE FACE OF ANGELS BASEBALL 🤣
Your a mariners fan, I’m a white Sox fan. I feel you bro.
Hey Seattle fan, win a world series before you feel sorry for us.