Narcissist or Narcissistic?
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
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Is there are difference between someone who is a narcissist and someone who is narcissistic or are they the same thing? HG Tudor explains and brings clarity to this issue.
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My cat likes HG's voice . She sits next to whatever electronic device it's playing from. Great, even my cat is drawn to narcissists
Hardly surprising that pussy responds to my voice, is it?
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HG😂 .... you are bad to the bone, and I love your sense of humor...please do not stop .... in the final analysis , why you choose to help us.....matters little.Whether you are narcissist or empath maybe it’s roll of the dice. I was married many years ago to a very psychopathic narcissist... I was too stupid to get out before the damage was done... how I wish there was a “ HG” back then. I live alone and will confess when I can not sleep, I put on one of your videos and the sound of your voice lulls me to sleep 😴... I smile to myself I am now addicted to your voice.
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@@hgtudor-theultra oh you rascal 😂😂😂
It’s funny how excuses are made for singers or actors who tantrum compared to normal people. I’ve always thought the word diva just meant asshole that has a talent. Now I know it means narcissist with a talent!
I need further study to be able to differentiate between a narcissist and a common lowlife a**.
Same thing basically...
The way I decipher if someone has genuine empathy vs cognitive empathy is by how they are naturally considerate/respectful of others boundaries.
Respecting others boundaries is the way people show their real empathy. It's essential to learn to set boundaries, though. Toxic people, whether are a narcissist or not, will respect boundaries and not trample on them.
I'm struggling to distinguish if my sister, with whom I've gone no contact, but ran into today, is a full blown, no empathy narcissist or just narcissistic. I've spent a lifetime with a multitude of narcissists and have studied much on the subject, but my sister troubles me.have I written off someone, who may have an inkling of empathy. She futures fakes, triangulation, makes false accusations, against me, she gaslights, slightly, but...I miss my childhood friend...is she gone? P.s..I'd say my mother is full blown narcissist
My ex was probably narcissistic rather than narcissist. Still extremely difficult to get on with when she got on her high horse.
This is a perfect explanation. I am certainly narcissistic. This is why I found it difficult, in my recent brush with a narcissist, to understand their complete lack of empathy and their falseness.
This is a good video. I have difficulty distinguishing between the narcissistic person and the narcissist. On the surface, it still seems hard to differentiate between the two.
Thank you so much for this explanation. I have BPD tendencies and I see myself very often act narcisstic, and I thought I was a narcissist . Turns out I am narcissistic some times, but not a narc.
The Narcissist Pop-star reminds me of the Givency bridal gown fitting drama, the flower girls theater, the resigning of Archewell CEO and a few more.
Yes, me too
My ex narc once told me he was challenged in how he spoke about an ex and all of the blame he heaped on her at the end. He seemed to appreciate being held mildly accountable for it years later. But he was so toxic. Sometimes I swear he’d use false awareness to manipulate and seem deep.
They use false introspection any time they need to.
You forgot to add that the pop star will remind the sound technician (and everybody around him) that the guy walked off mid job and that he never apologized for it.
This distinction is very insightful, more so than the Markle series. Notwithstanding, a series that serves as a behavioural time stamp in understanding the train wreck from which we are unable to avert our attention.
I used to think of myself as an empath because I'm so sensitive to others emotions but realised a long time ago that unless I held back my people pleasing instincts, even normal partners would walk all over me. Sometimes, I over compensated and acted badly. I feel guilt and empathic pain when I cause upset in others. But I also think the tools of narcs can be useful if only to protect ourselves from them.
Very very very very well explained ! Thank you teacher ! Things are crystal clear now !
I've trouble differentiating between the two because I encounter narcissistic individuals and they seem to have empathy !
Very interesting analogy Narcissist versus Narcissistic
Poor me! I don't stick around long enough to tell the difference!!! (Are you a narc or are you narcissistic? Hmm...) I immediately GOSO. 🏃♀️🏃♂️
I agree both need to be cut off completely or given zero feul: look at your nails when they talk to you, everything in writing only, no insults, no adulation.
Narcissist or has a lot of traits, I don't care gtfo.
I'm not drawn to narcissists not so that I'm self aware of it, I understand now why I've been attracting narcissists, it's been a painful experience, a painful process. You are using your voice, that's good, anything that makes people listen and when you have something that will catch people's attention. When I was reading about and studying NPD, I bumped into some of your thoughts on the Internet a few years ago. I think it was a very rare kind of self-reflection and I remember the feeling of pain coming through the texts back then, thank you for what you have written, all that
Thank you for the clarification.
If you are still unsure. Do the narc detector. It’s worth every penny.
What did you get out of it? Did you do the empath detector.
Once you know etc...
I like his voice as well helps me sleep
Telling a story to illustrate the differences between a Narcissist and a narcissistic individual is helpful and brings clarity to the situation.
You explain it best! I've listened to many on your, but you get it better than others.
Flawless subject breakdown.
This reminds me of a time I was in a public place, with a then rising star setting up her show that would air on TV later in the day. As I was passing by, I heard her say to the guy handling a big spot, up in the air, "YOU'RE NOT VERY INTELLIGENT, ARE YOU?" Imagine how many eyes focused on the guy, thinking what a twerp he was.
She was projecting....Imo
This is there go to shit coz it's the only advantage they can have over empathic ppl.
Thank you for this Tudor - first: people need to just look up the handbook of psychiatry & read the basic checklist for narcissists - I've had to send this list to a few friends (one who is a narc lol but who thinks everyone else is!) that just go on about how anyone they don't like or treats them poorly is a narc. Ugh.
Once they read it usually they are like: 'oh, no, they aren't like that, huh, I guess they're not narcs..'
Importantly though people need to understand that abuse is abuse is abuse - & abusive behaviors are what they are & there is no excuse......
see it for what it is & move on: don't wait for a label to stick on the person
For women: I recommend the book: 'Why does he do that?' - what their research finds is that there is no 'reason' these abusive men abuse (aka PTSD, narc, sociopath, psychopath - most of these abusive men are not any of these & even when they are the behaviors aren't appreciatively different from those who are not)-they abuse because they wish to, & they can & they will be with women who allow it: that simple.
The explanation is good.
However, in order to determine whether an individual is narcissistic vs a pwNPD, one has to observe repeat patterns of behaviours over time.
The repeat pattern of behaviours determine whether or not words match actions and whether apologies ring hollow when the actions are repeated.
This clarifies quite a lot. Thank you. The two can be confusing.
Magnificent. Thanks Sir Tudor my tutor.
Is this a repeat example..I'd like a more relatable example; perhaps where a friend or family member, is in question
Very good explanation. Thank you. This helps me a lot.
Thanks for the clarification HG 🙏
Fantastic analogy and explanation!! 🙏
Thanks HG. Interesting as usual but would like to add that, as you have said before, genuinely empathic people do have narcisstic traits. Therefore, lets say that the sound engineer is a full blown narc and has been winding the empathic pop star up for some time then the pop star could blow up. Of course the pop star will then feel absolutely awful afterwards, as it is out of character, and he/she will take all the blame and probably rush to apologise to the arsehole, I mean sound engineer. And there we have it... the quintessential example of why narcs feed off empaths and why empaths stay in the abusive relationship too long. Just because someone has an epic outburst doesn't mean they are not an empath. Everyone has limits.
There is a difference. Thanks HG.
Thanks for the clarification, HG!
Pure brilliance!
I love your voice. Listen daily to wind down. Would probably be an empath with a crush on HG!
Good one HG...Was hoping this would have its own video, something I asked for clarity on for the next ask HG.
Gorgeous 👌 I'm now in a good mood to analyse my relations (family, neighbors, collegues etc.) 😉
There may be more to it than that particularly in the borderlands as in believe half of what you see and nothing what you hear
Yup, HGT University finally explains some of mysteries of life
Mine cries when a racecar driver dies, when he hears the American Anthem. Most times nothing else. He once told me he wasn't attracted to me anymore, I said "I'm not attracted to you either." Small tear and then he moved on. I ignore the bullsh*t these days. He's getting on in age and age seems to have slowed his game playing, that and I just don't have the want or care to play.
I can definitely be narcissistic then but I’m glad I don’t need to worry about being a narcissist myself 😝
I am looping this video to understand the distinguishing factor of “empathy” between a narcissist and a narcissistic person.
Great example and very helpful. Thank you.
Christian Bale going bat guana on set because a cinematographer accidentally walked on set. He only wanted to play one character in one of the Terminator reboots. He got what he wanted but turns out a different character was the star of the show lol Bale is a pos. I don't care if they have npd or just act narcissistic frequently, they are all toxic. Goso.
Great topic! Thank you
Thanks HG, this made it clear the difference between the two.
Wow, you made that easy to understand and the example was perfect. Thank you
This is HUGELY helpful. Thank you.
Excellent.
Hi HG... Could you explain the difference between the narcissistic people (not the narcissists) and the normal people? Thx for your videos 💖
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Very insightful. Thank you for defining and exemplifying those two terms 🙏🙏
I really like the popstar scenario because it says so much about so many popstars, which are some of the most popular people in the US or otherwise. To some people and they are everywhere in some shape or form. If that makes sense? They are all over because music makes the world go round.
Semi random
But wanted to share. Just posting to say, in my case, no contact, court intervention, public silence/not discussing any of the smearing & handling what needs handled behind mutual people being involved for a year at last he’s ruined his own reputation. The right person finally saw things for what they were & he lost a massive opportunity, & exploded publicly All over social media, showing everyone the volatility & ruining his own reputation.
Thanks for this, HG. I think I have been dealing with narcissistic female friends and a female cousin. I must’ve missed this video explaining the difference between a narcissistic person and a narcissist. Glad I just caught it now.
It appears that NARCISISTS are much more defensive than people who are NARCISISSTIC.
*frantic self-assessment ensues in 3...2...* 🐣
Can someone with lots of narcissistic traits use the narcissist stare?
That soulless stare is the worst thing I’ve seen in person. I called the ex girlfriend out about gaslighting me and the very next time I hung out with her, she gave me that stare when I called her on a lie. In no contact now or at least a half ass one.
My feeling would be that you get that stare when someone is empty inside and lacks empathy. Someone who regards you as an object.
Also in a cold rage you can see fury twisted contorted face plus the stare. Horrible.
Reminds me of Meryl Streep's character in Devil Wears Prada
Perhaps narc traits residing within the alta egoes of our conscious minds by nature/nurture develop and reflect disproportionately the life preserving ego of the subconscious mind.
It`s a coping mechanism. It`s like a computer virus that can infect the mind, when it`s malfunctioning because of emotional trauma. The " Ego" is not the mind per se. The ego is a fiction that`s created by the mind to protect it from harm of abuse/damage and to adapt to a hostile environtment where it lacks nurture and controll. It`s like computer " Malware" that creates a new operating system over the real system. That blocks the underlying system from connecting to the real world ( the interhuman network of emotions). The main object is to protect it from harm. The problem is that it`s a ficting created to survive as a child/todler and not as a grown human around others.
a great metafor is that the narcissist creates a superiority complex and a inferiority complex. They protect this behind the fiction. That is the " self image". This image is always the image of a superior beeing, or a hyper inferior victim. Or a mix of them.
If you ever talk to them and you notice they are super entiteld, thin skinned, highly emotional ( hatefull, irritated, angry). You most likely have to do with a narcissist, maby even a NPD. The last type is highly dangerous. And can even be Psycopatic
Love this!! 🙏🏼
Thank you HG.
Thank you for making it clear that my narcissistic attitude difference little from the narcissist. However, naturally I love to manipulate people through silence.
Great explanation, HG. Thanks for your efforts.
I have a request. Is it possible for you to put Justin Trudeau under the Tudorscope for us? I think it would make an interesting analysis. I have zero doubt that he is a sociopathic narcissist.
I wish my fellow Canadians would see through him. His charm and fake empathy is nauseating.
Thanks again.
sociopaths rarely get into the public eye in any form of power, aka like being a Prime Minister - they tend to have 'authority issues' - aka, get arrested, belligerent, drug/alcohol abuse, cannot hold down jobs, they use their charm & relative intelligence to use others, but it's not all that savvy: they don't have the long view....personally, I doubt JTrudeau is a sociopath.....
Thank you!
HG l have listened to this teaching before…….and l come to the conclusion that my …….narc is a Narc in every sense…… l have only been made aware of this recently……
very true, they look out only for themselves
let them tell there story which I no longer care
Scorpio male ♏️ same thing! They different in the trash can they go in!🤣☠️💀😈♏️
I’m a narcissistic autistic person .
Still love and care for people but I know my empathy is low
Yeh same here I'm not a narcissist I definitely feel empathy for some people most of the time but I can definitely get pissed off and act shitty and cruel at times usually have a strong desire for revenge for perceived wrongs.
Hi can you please talk about the narcissist who doesnt remember anything thy did or said is this true or he is just lying, it is crazy how he forget about things he did yesterday !
Gaslighting. Its amazing how many times this tactic was used on me when I remember back on my 38yr marriage. He's old and sick now and hovering is the only tool he's got left.
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Oh! so it is just another way to manipulate us 😣..thank you for your repley.
Yes, gaslighting. Narcissistic amnesia, rewriting history to suit.
Very Interesting
Both are super toxic….because while he apologized, he only did so because someone seriously pressed him to do so. They gotta go.
Well said abuse is abuse this should be taught in school.
Were quatifying , thabk ypu. Entertaiment industry good bet their rather narcissistic or npd.
Do people who fit in the narcissistic category respond to treatment, unlike the narcissist?
You could recite the phone book and people would tune in. Luckily, that's not what you do.
How would a "normal" react??
HG, I can’t find videos where you elaborate on the subject of re-idealization, its reasons and prospects. Every ”doctor” on youtube come with different kind of claim.. It’s impossible to know what’s correct and what’s not.
For example would a narcissist ever choose to even marry a past source of fuel or do marriages only happen with ”new” people etc?
It has been claimed that a person can do things to become re-idealized, is that even true?
1. You cannot make the narcissist re-idealise you with any guarantee of success. Anybody who tells you that you can does not understand narcissism and may well be an unaware narcissist exhibiting their need to assert control.
2. An appliance can be made white because somebody else in the fuel matrix is painted black, by way of example the Current IPPS is painted black and is thus in devaluation and so the Former IPPS who was black is now painted white increasing that person's risk of being hoovered.
3. An appliance who was black can fade to white through the effluxion of time because the effect of the wounding (which made them seen as black) has "healed" through the passage of time. This is partially why the narcissist can stroll back after being wounded or challenged and act as if nothing has happened, the passage of time has eroded the effect of the wounding or challenge.
@@hgtudor-theultra Thank you for your (as always) well-explained answer. As I understand it now, a narcissist only continues with "the cycle" of idealization and devaluation. So really, the narcissist doesn't truly re-idealize the other person in the sense that the person would be considered "renewed". Or maybe that is the way the narcissist sees the appliance afterall (as "renewed")?
Anyhow, whether or not a narcissist then acts upon it meaning WHY he/she chooses to hoover a past IPPS then depends on a specific need of the narcissist. Which would mean that a narcissist could very possibly hoover someone in order to get into a relationship again or even for a marriage, IF there is something that the narcissist will get out of it..
Based on your answer, (as I understand it) being painted white (as in being "re-idealized") and re-engaging with former appliance CAN happen, but it doesn't apply to ALL narcissists. Also, the reasons for the re-engagement and it's success varies, depending on several factors. That's how I interpret it anyway.
To be honest, I used to think that all narcissists immediatley shut off after viewing their "partner" with disgust and that they would always stay repulsed by them and never ever re-engage in a relationship or something bigger like getting married to them, because they had been painted black once. Instead it seems like it differs between narcissists.
How do we recognise such "narcissistic" people & " normal people with No empathy for strangers" on online dating platforms
Please, what is it when the 'pop star' responds: "when was I unreasonable? I wasn't angry, that's just your perspective, everyone else says they would say the same, I was very reasonable. Others have trouble with this sound engineer". Even with a history of many people being 'blasted' by the 'pop star' and hurt and devastated he still claims that he never hurt anyone.
Narcisistic people is allover, one have just to deal with them. ☹☹
I always get misty when the national anthem plays for our country even knowing it's bad history towards Blacks. I always find myself tearing up. She would loathe the sight of my emotional connection to the athletes who sacrificed for their goals & dreams. And would often comment (negatively!) on why I get so emotional during Olympic games or championships. She hated it even I got misty for others, I tried explaining it but she just didn't get it.
They lack empathy. That is for you and your feelings. This trait on her behalf ( She hated it even I got misty for others). Is a REAL RED FLAG.
If there is a mix of lovebombing, and devalueing ( what she do with you) also on other matters systematic ( they come often) redflags. She might be narcissistic and even have NPD.
Look out for:
frequient use of the toxic mix of lovebombing, manipulations ( lies, gaslighting, blatant lies), devauling of your character, values, actions etc... If you have these+ the character traits of little empathy, entitelment, lack of ability to truly listen etc.
Please do a video on Chris Watts. I hate hearing how he just couldn't help killing his family so he could have "a new life" benefitting from the payoff from the life insurance and lawsuit against the oil company.
I second that
He has already done a few videos on CW.
@@lynncrf where and what are they titled.
Why has #6 of the Ensnared series been made private?
Hey HG ! - wouldn't the narcissist saying:" Hell yes - of course I'm under a lot of pressure....!" be equal with "admitting weakness or being in a position the narcissist doesn't have under control to the maximum extend" ? - from the viewpoint of a narcissists perspective that and as well - even though just doing it for strategicly gaining an wanted outcome "needing to finally having to excuse - to some extend " must be quite demeaning or frustrating - whilst this would at least on the surface imply some acknowledgement of the factual reality of actually "not being in total control" !? - or is that not an "ego-blow" - (I know there is no ego) for the narcissistic system/defense mechanism ? - or is faking to win and gain satisfactory enough to "ignore/dissmiss/oversee" this ?....
Good content Mister, even I do not agree with the "Spectrum" as described here. It gives a dualistic Vibe, that just isnt there in that extreme. Its not a dark and bright side thingy in my personal point of view.
Hi Tudor...can I say narcissists are akin with psicopats? If not, apologies in advance for my ignorance, what are the main differences
I think I'm narcissistic 😢
The term narcissist is being used loosely these days, not everyone who has narcissistic traits has a NPD, I think it's interesting that narcissism is a spectrum and NPD is very uncommon, between 0.5-1% of the general population, something most people don't know about
NPD is much more common than that. Around 15%.
Empath Narcissistic then mid grade Narcissist over 30 years then
Maybe the popstar should have forgiven the sound engineer for what happened.. .... Ah, I can see how that wouldn't work. MM take note.
This is a good video. I think a certain channel owner who rants about how you're wrong, etc because the C-O knows better than anyone probably has narcissistic tendencies. I think you probably come too close for comfort to what goes on inside the C-O's head and she doesn't like the mirror. Lol
I am not wrong and the fact that this individual rants about my work tells you all you need to know. Many have tried to assail the brilliance of my work, none have succeeded.
Dang I am super nosy. I wanna know who this toothy tile is about.
Which channel is this?
What channel is that?
Can people with narcissistic tendencies change?
Australia HG hi
Is markle lying when she said she " never googled harry" because i think she lied there...
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Oh my god what nonsense lol
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