Discovering the Shocking Truth About Your Honda Trail 125's Oil
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
- There are reports of low oil in the 2023 Trail125 from the factory. Why? I spent some time in the garage installing new parts and learned something along the way.
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00:00 - Previously On
00:52 - Intro
01:21 - Installing Cargo Crate
09:41 - Ram Mount Installation
11:28 - Oil Change
22:56 - Parts Run
25:01 - Ram Again 
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Very nice video. I just found your channel. I changed my oil and spark plug in my 2022 Trail 125 yesterday. I love this little bike. Its interesting some of the differences between the '22 and '23 engine. I haven't done the Quad Lock yet but I have installed a set of Barkbusters. They make a huge difference off road. Especially when you lay it down. I do like the Green too. Keep the videos coming. We'll keep hitting the like button and whatching.
I would have used some HDPE for less noise and abrasion on the mounting plate. Love you genuine, un-filtered portrayal of real life garage experiences, I think we all can relate. Keep the videos coming.
That's not a bad idea. I'm not sure if the crate could fully fold down with that. If I still had access to UHMW from my manufacturing days, I could have just used some of that. Some people have used cutting boards to mount other bags but not with a folding crate. Might give it a shot.
@@baldrider It's cool to see everyone's different approach to mounting these crates and even the differences in the crates they select. I am still torn between keeping the super usable, oversized factory rack or ditching it for the narrow version. I'll lose some functionality and the ability to two-up but it'll look a lot nicer haha.
@@texlee1640 Two-up isn't an option for me if I plan on ever going up even the slightest grade already being 220lbs. I don't think this crate will be permanent. I have large Nelson Rigg Tour bags I use on my Goldwing that may be used on the rack instead of the crate when the situation requires. Every bike I own ends up having at least one rack somewhere. I'm happy this one has it already.
Thanks for the fun video and tips on oil change! I followed your direction and didn't have problems it was my first oil change on the bike. Decided I wanted to do these myself. I like that the 2023 has the oil filter and I also had to pour more in then was recommended it's a bit over middle of the dipstick spot but should be ok.
I had the same issue, was nervous about overfilling it but it seems to be good
Hey man. My first time watching and you had me laughing from the start when you said "Cold coffee" . Cheers from New Zealand 🇳🇿
I think it's great you discovered cameras, and that I have discovered your channel... because this is pretty much the dialogue I have all by myself when I do anything nowadays 🙂. And now I have discovered cameras, and microphones - without cords - and am sorting out how to give people what they want to know. Good stuff, subbing just because I want to see if CT can do it. Thanks for sharing, very enjoyable.
This is Like watching Dilbert's Garage if Dilbert were a real person he would likely be you new subscriber here
Welcome and thank you for the support.
Oh man, too funny...and super informative. Thanks for sharing!
Brilliant! Glad I found you 😅
Glad to see they have filters now.
I feel your pain. Very relatable. Bring on the death chip.
Things going perfectly in the garage would be disappointing and unrelatable.😂 Thanks again for the videos and freebies!
Just wait until I film a tire change. I try not to curse in my videos but I'll have to learn how to censor that when tires are involved. 😁
Always hilarious mate. Cheers.
Thanks 👍
Great video. I reuse the same washers. When draining oil and changing filters,
I always cover areas with aluminum foil that would get dripped on. Nice life hack for riding mower too.
That's a good idea. Honda could have made that unnecessary, though
"Could this be more difficult?" was my mantra while changing out my water heater. A) the water main shutoff B) getting the old tank to drain C) clearing away the old piping so I could run PEX. At least plumbing with PEX was a pleasant experience. 🤷🏻♂️
"Three of the Ho's are lined up great. One of the Ho's is not."
My life story & welcome to it.
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I'm a bit concerned with the flat sheet metal support not having its corners and edges removed - that is a hidden chopping hatchet in this state. Some dampening material in between might also be point to upgrade. It sure will dampen noise and it will reduce vibration stress around the bolting areas. This is turning into a really nice ride.
I was concerned about that when I did mine then I realized that the crate on top covered the corners when mounted.
“This is probably not the smartest idea but…whatever”. Thats my brother in laws favorite phrase!
It is pretty much the motto of my channel
Maybe .9 quarts would be enough if you only changed the engine oil and not the filter? My bike has separate specifications listed for when changing the oil versus changing both the oil and filter.
It was supposed to be .9 with the filter change and 1.1 after a rebuild. Less if you don't change the filter
Imperial quarts and not US quarts maybe?
Wli changed oil and filter and it was .8 of a US quart
I have the same bike and if you go to left side of bike there is lots of room to get your hand into the skid plate, no need to remove to clean
I put in 14+15 ounces give or take. Always some left in the measuring cup (~.2…) Ran the bike for 3-5 minutes and had oil on the dipstick!!
How do you like the motorcycle? I'm 6'1 @ 250#. To big? I haven't seen one at the dealer yet, but like the design. Great video by the way 👍
Thank you. I never saw one until I went to the dealer to pick mine up. I love it and wish I had bought it sooner.
The question about size comes up a lot. My other videos show the performance on mountain roads with a 220lb me on it. I think if you manage your expectations, it would be fine. The terrain where you plan to ride it also makes a difference.
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honda trails are good little bikes . i watched a guy here on youtube forget his channel but he rode his from like new york to California . following some trail cant remember . but it made it . had a couple flat tires but other then that it did great . 1000 miles should be a walk in the park .
Except for the 24-hour time limit, I'd agree. We'll see how it goes. We're halfway to 1k
26 GA that's like Tin Foil .. You should have gone to an Aluminum supplier that has Drops .. You can get steel drops much cheaper at a steel supplier too .
While the paper oil filter is easier to maintain than the crankshaft mounted centrifugal oil filter that these engines have always had since the year dot, i still thing it is mostly a profit ploy🙁 as you have to change it more often than the 8,000 miles the centrifugal filter required! Also, if not serviced, the centrifugal filter was probably good for 10 to 12 thousand miles or more without a qualm!
Also, as a safety FYI, should you mess with the handlebar clamps at any point, it is a Honda design thing where the clamps have a dot on the top clamps that should always face foreward, then you should do both upper bolts fully tight, then do the rear bolts pinch tight. If you inadvertantly get this ass about face in any way, your bars wont be securely clamped✅✅✅
I used a Milwaukee packout mount and a packout crate on my Honda 250 ATV. Easy
Is this Bear Lake?
I believe the back tyre needs to be touching the ground when you do check the oil level as this would have the oil level higher at the rear of the engine (this was the instructions given to US whom worked for Auspost) so try that and see if your oil is now 0.1 quart over fill (FYI Honda nz claim being over fill by that amount IS okay, I disagree but that’s MY opinion)
That's interesting since the manual says to put it on the center stand. I despise this whole method in the first place. Just give us a sight glass like everybody else. So much easier.
Haha yeah, give us a sight glass like on bikes that don’t have a centre stand then make us hold the bike upright to check level
Dear Honda, I'll trade you my kick start that I'll never use for an oil sight glass 😐🤲
@@baldrider install one for a video.
My 2021 doesn't have a filter, right? I put the magnetic oil plug in it from the beginning. Great bike. About 7k miles on it.
Well, it has a screen but not a paper element filter. Those didn't get added until the 2023 model year. I don't have a magnetic drain plug. I haven't decided if I am going to add one or not.
You didn’t do anything wrong, nor has Honda done! 😉
The engine has a certain amount of oil in it. The amount that Honda puts in when the bike is new. When you change oil however, you can’t drain 100% of the oil inside, so when you put in new oil, the amount will be less than 100%, and in the book you can read an approximation of the oil change amount.
But if you drain it really, really well, you’ll need more. And that is a good thing! 👍
So basically - trust the stick! If it says “pour in more oil”, do it!
If you can put in more than what the book says, you have drained the bike really well. Good for you! You don’t do sloppy oil-changes! 👍 The professional shops should learn from you. Draining the oil well means more percentage of fresh oil.
The reason that Honda tell you to run the bike a few minutes and then wait some time before checking oil, it is because they want the best for you - they want you to make a very precise measurement - i.e. a measurement with oil in all the oil channels, but not to much on the inside walls of the engine.
Sooo you should probably put just a tad more oil in it. 😉 Trust the measuring stick and always fill to max-line.
They do have a sight window, use it.
Has anyone done an engine swap on a Honda Trail yet maybe a 250cc or 350cc motor swap
In my 33 of street riding I’ve never changed a crush washer lol. I know I should, but in a bazillion miles I’ve never had a single one leak 😂 so until that day I’ll keep being lazy.
It depends on my mood, mostly. And if I have one available
I'm hoping you're being facetious and have a deeper than 2 inch box to bolt up. You might be able to carry a thought in that little thing. 😊
The Washer for the oil Drain Plug is Copper or even fiber..
Had the same "problem" yesterday. Book say 850ml. I put the entire 946ml and still miss little bit
I'm due for another change. I didn't measure the oil in the bottle and assumed I wasn't shorted. I may do that this time.
Really beautiful place you live in BR.
Thank you. It is a great place to be as long as the snow doesn't try to kill you in the winter.
Is that alone Pine? Love the green paint on the bike.Interesting video. I found your small mishaps oddly relaxing and entertaining.🤣🍔
Supposed to check oil on the center stand. Looks like you're on the side stand?
It was on the center stand
@@baldrider it was hard to tell in the vid. I've got a 23 and haven't changed the oil yet.
We still putting a whole quart in it? I'm doing my second oil change now and it's driving me crazy putting more oil than the manual calls for
I haven't changed it again yet but I'm glad I'm not the only one who finds this worrisome. Honda is generally known for being highly competent. Something isn't right
@@baldrider I had pretty much the same arc. I put .9 quarts in it; not a drop on the dipstick. I was paranoid that the black dipstick was messing with my eyes. I kept trickling oil into it until it took the whole quart to bring up to the full line.
I read the manual; use center stand and do not screw in the dipstick. I am so confused why there's hardly anybody talking about this
@@WrainTravels Right? Instead, my comments section looks like a dumpster fire
Maybe @hondamotorcycles can comment.
what handgrip did you put on it?
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Maybe Honda meant. 9 liter?
What ever this is? A cargo net, just how long have you been doing this? Use the engine oil sight window that is what it is for.
.9 L not .9 qt. / 1 qt =.9L ?
Did they just start putting oil filters on these bikes?
The new JA65 engines have a filter now. Is it necessary? Probably not. Peace of mind, mostly.
@@baldrider Of course a filter is necessary.
On the 2023 models.
T@@ohwell2790 The paper filter is 'additional ' , contary to many peoples belief they still have a centrifugal filter and the oil strainer, so can be argued probably not needed IMV. I have a new style with paper filter, do my own maintenance and at 7k miles have just cleaned the centrifugal filter and strainer in addition to changing the cartridge filter.
Know what works great instead of the steel plate is a cheap teflon or whatever they are cutting board, I bought one from the 99¢ store for my monkey rack, will never rust
I thought about that after the fact. Not sure I like the whole setup I have anyway. I'll probably change it out soon.
Я подписался, мне интересно. Хонда трейл 125 ❤❤❤
There is so much stupidly wrong here that after 3 minutes I am looking for any other video the internet can offer.
Класс, привет из России. 😊😊😊❤❤❤
Use stainless steel tray instead of the aluminum foil tray.
i hope that was wet clutch oil
Honda-spec oil. Same as used in my Goldwing.
@@baldrider sorry when i posted this i had my head up my butt i guess. i had the first goldwing to hit texas in 1975 and had a few after that. i should have known it had a wet clutch also
Hey, at least you didn't tell me to just check the sight glass because the little Honda definitely has one of those😬
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Everything is a hammer lol
I’m not sure you should be left alone
I don't disagree. I don't call my garage videos 'unsupervised' for nothing.
Kill the music. Jeepers, you made it like The Lawrence Welk Show. Exiting out. BTY. oil sits on the head for a while after running. If you check it after it's drained back, you'll find you've over filled it.
Take a break. Smoke a joint, works for me. !!!!!!
Why do you try to do everything in quarts? The world, including Honda use metric.
Mericans don't wanna use broken down version of numbers
Because we fought 3 wars to keep using quarts
@@brianpdaniels You were late turning up to two of them. What a place when you have to fight to remain in the middle ages. 😂
@@TheBioniXman I forgot the war of 1812, so lets say it's four wars. Your welcome BTW.
@@brianpdaniels So what arm of the military did you serve in then? Were you told that you were fighting to be able to use some outdated measurements?
I think I was just #500 haha
I guess I have to eat that stupid chip now. First I need to acquire an emergency puke bucket and learn how to Livestream
The amount you took out of the oil bottle was wrong. You never measured that bottle to see that it had 1 quart in it. And the amount you took out was too much as far as I could see.
Does you delete criticism from the comments section?
We’ll see
Your attention-grabbing headline is unsustained by the content of this video
I consider it clickbait and will not click on your videos in the future
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Just as soon as I saw things happening to you that routinely happen to me when I attempt to do stuff I subscribed to your channel. 😐👇🖲
Thanks! I think that's my niche. Just a guy trying to persevere in the face of adversity that he caused.
@@baldrider Ikr? I tell the wife it was my 🧠's fault not mine all the time.