Starfield - DO NOT Play an Unarmed Build - IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED!
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- Опубликовано: 20 авг 2024
- Starfield is an amazing game, but man Unarmed Builds SUCK! The amount of skill investment you need for the unarmed playstyle to be barely servicable is just insane. I really hope future patches or DLC offers some new benefits, maybe fist based weapons like brass knuckles. Let us know about your experience with unarmed.
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I think Bethesda should definitely patch this build up considering all the skill trees which make it possible. They should either increase scaling tremendously, add "unarmed" weapons, or increase base unarmed damage by quite a bit
They should follow the Enai method and increase unarmed damage directly by how much oxygen (stamina) you have.
It’d be cool if martial artist or boxer extended the unarmed combo rather than just three punches
What melee weapons?
@@manbob15 I meant like fist weapons or gauntlets
Nope mods Bethesda is useless
What they should do for unarmed is keep the damage as is, but give it fast, punchy strikes. Cyberpunk 2077 has some of the most fun unarmed combat that I've seen in the last 5 years. They could take some notes from that.
Bro, Cyberpunk is just fantastic in melee and unarmed combat, to the point where I honestly think it's TOO strong.
Playing a melee katana build turned me into a god in no time, and then on my second playthrough I went with a body-focused build, and suddenly had the overwhelming realization that my gorilla arms could one-shot nearly anything and I barely needed my shotgun at that point. It's insane, I love that game. 🤣
@@heyfell4301yeah once I got gorilla arms and a decent katana I never went back to guns, sliding to slow down time and chopping everyone up before they even realised what happened was great
My main playstyle in that game is gorilla arm unarmed build. Super good AND it gives you the option to take out enemies non-lethally.
@@symbiotesoda1148 "Option", most of the time you're gonna punch them when they're unconscious and kill them xD But it's so much fun.
@@heyfell4301katana builds are about to be goated when Phantom Liberty drops, cant wait to see all the dishonored like CP2077 clips with people deflecting bullets with their blade after launching off of their bike and then going into a well-choreographed murder spree
Loving Starfield, but they *REALLY* need to do something with melee options. You can't even upgrade melee weapons like you can with ranged. I went all the way down the line and gain 10% with each melee kill, but I can already feel it falling behind ranged even with the self-healing.
I hope they address is at some point. I was really looking forward to being an in-your-face brawler type.
They won't! :')
No seriously, this is Bethesda we're talking about. They don't fix their own games. XD
Its sad since i came into this game wanting to use the katana all game but its at a disadvantage at all times. even trying to level up concealment is terrible. barely any chances in the regular gameplay to sneak attack with a melee. only way i can think of farming it is sneaking up on aliens? really disappointing. i had to switch to a pistol build midway through.
@@user-ez1jo9qe3h Serrated Blade for bleed Damage, Electrodes of some kind for shock/energy damage, a plasma emitter for burn damage. Fallout 4 had plenty of Melee weapon modifications. Sounds like you're the one not thinking.
@@kaimagnus5760yup can't modify melee weapons so the game is trash lol gotcha
@@user-ez1jo9qe3h Sharpening, electrify, serrated, etc. Also...it's a video game...they can come up with anything, like stronger materials or something. The options aren't limited to reality. How do you realistically justify guns doing more damage because you put a few skill points it? In realty, you may be able to improve accuracy or handling, but damage-wise, a .45 is .45 regardless of who shoots it.
Look at any game with a melee emphasis. It's not like melee modding hasn't been done before countless times in countless games.
Maybe you're the one who should "think before you type", instead of insulting people for no reason.
this is disappointing, saw the martial arts skill and thought that meant they made unarmed cool
Same
Yeah, that's just insulting. If they added nothing to boost unarmed it'd be like, "ok that's just not in the game". But to add skill trees that boost it and it's still terrible, that's just pointless on Bethesda's part.
Oh, the worst part is successfully disarming someone won't even register for the perk challenge. Martial Arts is permanently stuck at Level 2. Good job Bugthesda.
As an unarmed connoisseur, I am also sad about this! There's also no toggle equip on favorite hotkeys (Since Fallout 4 mind you), so if you try to switch from a gun to fists, you gotta use the inventory menu every single time. The EM stun from Neurostrikes can mess with disarm chance for Martial Arts too, so if you skipped to tier 4, good flippin luck getting the rest of your Martial Arts levels. I did get a mirrored helmet, that reflects the damage as unarmed hits, so that's actually been pretty entertaining. And I did find out that KO'd enemies are basically free sneak attacks, so that's something too. Overall though, disappointing how much we need to commit to be somewhat viable, when other weapon skills completely overtake it.
Level 4 Concealment gets you 10x melee damage when the enemy is stunned I don't think this dude had this skill on this video.
@@Voltomess Even WITH Concealment, damage output is still ass when using Unarmed.
Wasn't an unarmed build specifically mentioned in one of the pre-release marketing events? Good job.
This is me, the kicker is that you can't favorite the fists so if you mix it up you're going to have to Go into the menu unequip the weapon.
They spent 11 years not improving unarmed systems
Degrading if anything
Not improving anything really. The game in first person feels just like Skyrim
Yeah and they FINALLY fixed shotguns and heavy weapons after how sucky both were in Fallout 4. Shotguns because of the lack of variety and heavy because of the lack of ammo.
Two steps forward and three steps back. . .
To be fair, unarmed could be pretty powerful in fo4. They made a build for it.
Well, yeah, this is Bethesda we are talking about here.
They somehow modernize every game mechanic they use without actually improving it over a period of decades.
Like, that has always been Bethesda's thing. 😂
As someone who always goes hard in the paint with unarmed in NV. This makes me sad.
Dude that power fist would always make people's noggins pop.
I always thought that the bladed looking weapon over your fist counted as unarmed, too bad, but not too late, they can add weapons like these, just like in Fallout 4/76.
The idea of the different animations from different trainers sounds great. Besides adding some weapons like knuckle dusters, they could literally just add a selection of mods for your Spacesuit that give it spiked knuckles, or metal frames or something.
That's what I was thinking during this video too. Imagine installing little compressed air boosters on the backs of your hands that propel your fist into the enemy!
They’re going to sell it as creation club dlc just like they did with the Skyrim brawlers gauntlets…
@@reece42069brotha the gloves of the pugilist exist
I hate to say this but...New Vegas.
@@ChiefCrewinyeah powerfists were great in new Vegas.
This really makes me think that there is some super obscure piece of equipment hidden in the game that would help with this.😅
This 100% hurting my feelings. I started an unarmed character yesterday for my first character and its fucking miserable.
Oof… luckily if you’re still pre level 10 it’s pretty easy to pivot but those are lost skill points
@seanerzat was only 2 honestly. Im lvl 5 i think. But still a couple hours in i dont feel like rolling a new character already
Oh yeah don’t even worry about, you could very easily just start using guns and just consider those first unarmed levels as part of your backstory relating in some way to being good with hand to hand combat
Unarmed forces you to play in a unique way. Best way I found to play is to down all enemies with blue bar and then stop attacking them. Once they're all down, go for sneak attacks and oneshot them one by one. You can also pickpocket them while doing this. I don't consider fitness and wellness essential but the sneak stuff for sure is. I would say boostpack is essential for any melee too. If that crippled perk works for it, then that is your double damage buff that you asked for. So close of being good but it sucks 😂
Level 4 Concealment gets you 10x melee damage which does trigger when you have stunned someone. It makes the build actually viable and fun
I knew concealment would be major for the build
It makes it better but not good, unarmed still sucks ass.
I think it should trigger stealth damage if an enemy is knocked out. Then it would work like morrowind.
Time to kill someone is still too long, and I did experiment. The number for leveling up the Boxing skill is also stupidly time-consuming (i.e. 96 kills if you want to get to level 4), which means if you want to speed shit along, drop the difficulty to VERY EASY just to make the enemies less spongy.
I am very surprised there are no stun knuckles, or something, for Unarmed builds. Hell, Fallout's get spikey boxing gloves. Give us a micro version of the Power Fist. (Grave Fist?) I could totally see batons meant to stun. Punchy versions could still work for sc-fi security or bouncers.
Man thats a feelsbadman.. i've always loved playing brawler/martial arts characters when I can but they have really been dropping the ball on them since like Skyrim. Like why isn't there directional power attacks so strange. Maybe some ways to fix it make the attack speed way faster and just make unarmed weapons a thing. Have they ever buffed skills in the other games? New Vegas was peak Unarmed.
Skyrim didn't even have an Unarmed skill tree. I think it was viable in Oblivion though. It's always been viable in Fallout games though.
@@nuclearlefthook5008 Skyrim had a great unarmed system with its own unique skill tree. It was called Lycanthropy.
I never tried unarmed in Oblivion, but I had fun with it in Morrowind.
I started a bouncer in Starfield, only got to level 5 so far and dropped the first few points in some of the other trees that I wanted at least one point in (boost, medicine, diplomacy, and wellness in the physical tree). I was planning to put my next one in a second rank of boxing, but I think I will start dueling instead. Most of my planned build won't change but it is still disappointing that unarmed got so shafted. Hopefully patches, dlc, or modders will correct it.
I would love to see some unarmed execution animation
Perfectly timed, I was deciding between a melee or unarmed build to be my side character playthrough. This settles it.
Melee falls off hard mid game onwards as you can't upgrade melee weapons like you can ranged.
Melee feels like a total afterthought. Bethesda clearly didn't give a shit.
@@MisterZimbabwethey probably assumed vast majority of players aren't doing unarmed builds, I'm sure that's true tbh, but hopefully they update the game to make the playstyle viable for those people
@@MisterZimbabwe Are you playing normal difficulty or hard? I ask because if it feels weak on normal then I might pass altogether.
@@Originalchili Well, Bethesda has a track record of doing the bare minimum technical fixes, IF that, so I wouldn't hold my breath.
This is so timely! I was literally planning to do Unarmed Stealth build but thankfully haven't invested any skills into the unarmed yet. Just diplomacy and stealth. I'm going to double down on Social skills instead. Diplomacy is so OP when it works.
Melee needs finishers and weapon movesets
My first build was a bouncer, focusing on unarmed, and after investing deep in the tree, I deleted the character and started over. Not only does unarmed suck, but there is no way to bind "unarmed" to a key. Both of these make it unplayable. Now I'm enjoying a Soldier. Well, I find the quests and characters (NPCs) boring and predictable so far, but I'm enjoying random bounty quests.
I also thought it was annoying that you can't hotkey unarmed. I don't even want to play an unarmed character, I just wanna punch random things in the environment to see if they have physics, or to punish annoying NPCs by messing up their personal spaces.
@@SineN0mine3 Yeah in Fallout 4 there was a hidden item in your inventory with value c2c27 that you could never interact with but a console command could reveal it. And equipping that item made you go into unarmed mode. And there was an undocumented system for hotkeys in FO4 where you could bind a key to kick off "cf equipitem c2c27 0 1" to make a hotkey for unarmed. Useful for when in power armor. And the console command showinventory (iirc) would let you see the item would be flagged as worn when you were unarmed. So you could have a hotkey for unarmed in Fallout 4 without mods even.
BUT for Starfield, I used showinventory just looking around for either the same id or some other one with a new value which would get tagged as Worn when I went unarmed, in the hopes this hotkey backdoor was still there, but I found zilch, nada, zero.
Oh well. Mods perhaps at some point will add in an unarmed bind, and maybe make the damage of unarmed be x5 what it is now. :)
the downside of melee combat is by not having takedown, finishing moves like skyrim and fallout...i had more fun playing unarmed on those two games because the takedown animation
Yeah doing Suplexes to people was awesome!
The dealbreaker for me is how clunky it feels
Thanks for sharing this honest opinion... Hopefully saves us ALL a load of headaches! Can't wait to try out melee and hope they add some brass knuckles or specialized gloves with stats on them and we can have some fun down the road with unarmed! 🤛🤜🤞
As the person who gave me so many build ideas for Fallout 4, it's reassuring to hear you say that melee builds are still viable without something like Blitz.
I'm sorry unarmed was so unviable.
I look forward to what melee sword/stealth builds you come up with, and how you made them viable.
maybe unarmed would be cooler if they made specific weapons for unarmed. ik that goes against the idea of "unarmed", but the base damage is pathetic. Give players something like power fists, brass knuckles, boxing gloves, etc to boost the base damage of unarmed
Thanks for honesty, so many delicious guns it’s even harder to roleplay Batman too. Well said video and I liked how you compared with melee vs unarmed.
unarmed combat needs some sort of grappling systems, certain commands to initiate a collar tie for example and maybe you could have a system like kcd’s attack star with throws being unlocked/practiced and executed by your relative positioning + the choice of star direction dictating the direction and type of throw you do. you could incorporate weapons with this same grappling system- maybe having a weapon in hand allows you to attack with the grapple initiated or if you have both hands unarmed it allows for more throws. the collar tie system could allow you to grab a meat shield lol and maybe the higher unarmed skill allows you to more effectively move the npc and reduces their ability to escape, this could be done by comparing your unarmed skill to theirs
also the punches are so cringe, a martial arts perk and you still punch like a twelve year old whos experience is watching tavern duals from skyrim
I chose the bouncer for my build. After unlocking the first rank of boxing I decided to stop using it because with no defense buff it just feels like I'm just wasting my med packs.
Level 19 fully invested into unarmed melee... the pain made me look up if I'm doing something wrong... I guess I'm going for melee weapons now, thankfully didn't go into neurostrikes yet so only RIP 4 skill points
Level 4 Concealment gets you 10x melee damage when the enemy is stunned.
Looking at the skill tree at launch i was planning to go unarmed, get martial arts, and grab neuro strikes so i could deal EM damage, and i was also gonna get incapacitation from the combat tree to buff the EM damage, but i guess incapacitation only buffs EM weapons, which is a shame. They made perk synergies unnecessarily exclusive, they could've easily had the dueling skill also buff unarmed damage, and also had incapacitations EM damage buff work with neurostrikes, but they decided that melee and unarmed are two different things, when in reality the only difference is hitting with a stick vs hitting with fists. The final perk from dueling which states "Melee kills heal you for 10% of your health" is also lost on unarmed unfortunately, because despite meleeing an enemy to death with your fists, unarmed kills arent considered melee kills, so you dont get healed.
Gahdamn, this sucks. I've put over 24hr in the game and was just praying once I got Martial Arts I'd unlock some unarmed finishers. Literally can't believe they had somebody advocating for Neurostrikes in the hype video when it's literally nothing but a 3 punch combination or an uppercut. I loved my pistoleer/fistfighter in F4...
This one hit me hard, as I'm playing a Bouncer type character and tried to go the unarmed route (even named my ship the Swayze) but after about 10ish levels I pivoted to melee, as a lot of the supporting skills cross over, and I felt like I was falling behind the damage curve because I tried to invest in social skills on top of fighting. The change was immediate, and yes, much more fun.
Overall Starfield seems to devalue to close combat in general with no fistloads (brass knucks) or power fist type weapons. More so, you are unable to modify melee weapons at the work benches, or at least, I'm not able to modify any of them yet. This feels like a gap in the design that I do hope they address.
I’ve been leveling an unarmed character since it came out. It definitely makes things difficult especially when all you do is 3 hit combos, which also makes the combat slower. If there’s a large group of enemies I have to run in try to take out two or three of them and then run to safety before I get gunned down. Definitely a shame that this is the result because unarmed builds are my go to in these types of games
You clearly have much more patience than me, I got an hour into it and decided to can the character. I might revisit it if unarmed becomes good, but for now Gyatso the space monk is sitting in the trash
@@The_PotionSeller alas I am too invested into Captain Morganflorgans kung fu abilities so I continue to make myself suffer
They don’t have any power fists or shotgun fists in this game? Like in FNV or F4?
I get the feeling we'd get a similar argument as BotW devs about durability, "You'd all stick to one or two things and never see all the other stuff we worked on." As in, we'd all go with unarmed builds since we wouldn't have to worry about ammo, ranks, and mods, so they didn't develop the unarmed as well as the other methods.
Or they just don't like this playstyle and put in what they did just to placate the people who always whined about it, while working on they stuff they actually wanted to be in the game.
I don't know i'm level 20something and still punching things to death without much of an issue, it stuns people and with rank 4 concealment it seems to trigger the x10 damage part though i might be on crack. Sure running across the room instead of being in cover in a gun based game means I chew through trauma packs more than when I use a gun, but I kill things pretty quick all the same.
I wonder if unarmed stealth would work? I know kinda weird right. Or better yet add glove weapons that still count as unarmed?
Start game
"Im gonna punch every sentient thing I see"
"Oh, this sucks"
Eagerly awaiting the gunslinger and beast hunter builds!
Unarmed sucked in Skyrim too, but at least there was the Khajiit claws, that heavy armor perk, and an enchantment to boost the damage higher. And then other skills around it to make the build mor fun, like healing or necromancy (like your Sabrecat video)
One of the Bathasda guys said Neurostrikes for a unarmed bulid it was in the trailer before starfield was released
Thank goodness for mods. I definitely was planning on an unarmed playthrough that heavily used powers when I get the game
It's hard to believe that in a futuristic world like Starfield there aren't any brass knuckles or power gloves. Especially when martial arts still exists.
Add a damage increase to consecutive hits on an enemy. Then add in a few special moves like neck snapping for stealth kills, and arm/hand breaking to stop enemies from using firearms, and ground pounding to finish off downed enemies. Finally add in a special 3-5 kill powerup attack like Fist Flurry that slows down time and increases punching speed for a few seconds, or Cosmic Slug that lets you launch enemies into the stratosphere in a single punch.
Poor Nerbit must not be having a good time...
Stupidest thing of all is you cannot favorite unarmed. It's absurd. No way to unequip a weapon that you have on your person without going into the menus.. meeeeeeeeeaning that if you want to do unarmed AND a weapon? Good luck. You cannot click on the weapon again in your favorites and unequip said weapon. Something you could do in fallout NV is unavailable here.
How that made it through testing is beyond me... and I'm sorry but that's just the tip of the iceberg.
This game is not worth the money. Full stop.
My unarmed character build:
Name: The Human Spud (Looks like Uncanny Mr Incredible meme)
Origins: Orphan found suckling from the starchy teat of an irradiated Brain Sprout by the Xenowarfare scientists who took him to the facility on Kreet for further testing.
Bio: Some hear the call of the Great Serpent, The Human Spud hears the song of The Great Brain Sprout Hivemind; he must collect potato, and use the powers bestowed upon him to mash the uninitiated with his great mashers.
In The Elder Scrolls we relied on heavy armor boxing, requiring a small amount of skill points
In FALLOUT4, we use garbage to arm our fists, which requires reasonable skill points
In Starfield we can only rely on ourselves, requiring a lot of skill points
I feel like a fix is simple enough, just make unarmed attacks fast. The whole "critical hit plus chance of status defuff" wouid be dynamite if the attacks came out fast enough, even without increasing the base damage.
That sounds like a great mod for someone to make. Add more striking animations, and add more speed tied to your perk damage increases. I wanted to be some unarmed space monk, but what I got was lazy drunk bar brawler
Punching people in every part of the universe was the number 1 reason I wanted to play Starfield :(
Me too
Well that’s disappointing. Learning this, and that no-kill is not an option makes my Space Batman idea a nonstarter :’(
Thanks for all the fantastic work y’all do!
Unarmed conbat in this game was clearly an afterthought, seemingly designed to mimic Cyberpunk except with none of the work.
I wish we had the unarmed system for. Oblivion and Fallout 3 where we could train to learn new moves and karate some NPCs 😂
Challenge accepted.
But seriously, the mere inclusion of a few unarmed weapons would solve most of the problem. I'd settle for brass knuckles and a reskined power fist from FO4.
Too late, I already sunk 4 points into Boxing and 1 into Martial Arts and now I can't get them back. First run, too. I had to switch to melee with blades.
Man this makes me mad. I was looking forward to doing an unarmed build. When I saw all the perks I got excited, but oh well.
Bethesda should either add Fist Weapons to the game. Also make them modable and same with Melee Weapons.
Or Making Unarmed like 15%xLevel damage boost.
You have to be some kind of psychopath to do an unarmed build in a space exploration game 😂😂😂
Goddammit. I was actually having fun punching alien bugs in the face
I think it fits with the gangster or neon street rat background as a world detail that you should be able to do it. Just wish that it was more useful lol
to be fair, it did look fun in the trailer
how silly of me to want to role play
Then Bethesda shouldn’t have put unarmed skills in the game. If you implement a playstyle in a game, then it should be an optimal choice at some point in the game. Unarmed isn’t optimal *at all* throughout it.
I'm so sad, I really wanted to do an unarmed build but it just doesn't work. Probably gotta restart my playthrough so I get those skills back.
i wish i could get my perk points back from unarmed skills
Man I thought we'd see some crazy flying kicks and stuff with martial arts.
My tip, don't do an entire build around this, I'm investing on unarmed but not doing just this, I do it as a side skill.. for some certain moments, feels good enough, but as a secondary skill. It feels badass and funny to kill alien beasts with your bare fists, but for the training aspect.. like said in the video, focus on weak creatures to count towards the challenge. But it would be great if they update this or someone makes a mod that improves it for fights agaisnt humans.
Seen your unarmed builds for other games years ago, so I saw the Title of this video and thought "Right, Muppet is messing with us.."
Yeah, I was hoping it was a joke title too. Ah well.
I tried to make an unarmed monk type character, I realized within an hour that I just couldn't do it any longer. Someone needs to mod in better animations, and it really needs to be faster, low damage is workable with status effects and quick strikes, but I'm only able to throw drunk haymakers. Idk how that one Bethesda employee played an unarmed build in the showcase and saw nothing wrong
This was exactly my thought and concern when infirst saw those punches pre release. I was annoyed and worried about it. Glad I didn't risk it and I made my corpo sniper
so i like this game but one thing thats bothering me is, on PC how do I unequip my weapons so i can be unarmed. The game just tells me to holster my weapon but when i try to attack I still have whatever weapon I had previously. Pls Help me !!!!
Yes this
is h2h at least decent enough to role-play a non-lethal character who only stuns, knock downs, k.o or just runs away and refuses to kill? does it stun often enough that i can switch to a gun quickly as a move?
How to fix unarmed: Add new perk: Hero
Rank 1: boosts all unarmed damage by 50%
Rank 2: Boosts all unarmed damage by 20% after each consecutive hit.
Rank 3: Boosts all unarmed damage by 40% after each consecutive hit.
Rank 4: Boosts all unarmed damage by 60% after each consecutive hit. Plus, a 40% chance to send the target flying backwards. Dealing an additional 60% damage.
I suppose you could add in some chemistry and make chems to boost melee damage, but that's lots more levels for not much boost.
yeah i was severely disappointed in unarmed. looking forward to mods fixing this.
Edit: i think even buffing the first unarmed skill to be 100% 200% 300% and 400% still wont be enough, thats how bad it is.
Seems like 100% boost per boxing level, plus bonuses with level 4 being 25% heal would be needed. Throw some attack speed in there (that reduces cooldown between combos aswell) and it could be “ok”
Man, this is rough. I just started my character on the first ship as unamed. I was really hoping for a return to some monk-like characters from earlier BSG titles or an armor/"powerfist" type build eventually--it's a real shame that isn't going to happen, at least not anytime soon.
I fully get the concept that punching some guy in a helmet doesn't make sense...but there are dedicated perks to the skill. Why spend all that time and such coding up a completely nerfed build in the first place, anyway?
I gues I'll reroll, try again and watch the patch notes down the road.
Hey Fudgemuppet, a a fter playing for a few hours I am convinced this is the first BGS game where a "pacifist-centred" build be viable and I'd really love to see your take on it!
Too bad I’m in too deep to change builds.
Good news is I play on very easy so it’s not that bad.
I agree with everything you say tho, it’s not fun.
Buffing hand to hand for killcams in Skyrim, unlocking new moves in oblivion, that was more fun than this.
They need something like brass knuckles, or boxing tape to act as a weapon for unarmed.
Even melee is mid as fuck. Clunky animations, zero upgrades and customization, no superior versions of the same weapon, so your damage caps out pretty quickly and it's not high at all. It can be fun, especially in the early to mid game, but only against humans. Going up against 3 terrormorbs one after the other during one of the quests really cured the fear I had of them since a few quests earlier. The scariest part of fighting the scariest enemy is now the amount of time I'll have to spend running in a circle around them while sluggishly swinging a weapon that may as well be a pool noodle at them, knowing it'll only get worse every subsequent time as the level scaling bumps up their health and armor.
I have an unarmed build lvl 52.... this guy is right, unarmed SUCKS completely. the dmg is pathetic. the person who said you an stun and concealment 10x... doesnt change the fact the 10x dmg is still only 120-150dmg, i see 1k dmg on a rile.
SAVE YOURSELF and do not use unarmed til patched.
Bethesda has always neglected and/or straight up not included unarmed builds. It's nothing new, I'm not surprised. Merely disappointed.
Fallout has had it though, but funnily enough the game without it, Skyrim, is probably the best for it just because of fortify unarmed lol
Personally if bethesda wants to pull a skyrim and no unarmed weapons they need to increase base unarmed damage and double the martial art effects on unarmed. 30% disarm chance and 100% melee damage reflection would basically make you a god against those rushing pirates lol.
Glad I didn't spend any skill points on it yet, I was about to because I got the Gangster background but glad I stuck with the Shotguns
what I wish that beth did in the future at MiNiMuM is to add two-handed weapon to this game : weapons like big two-handen hammers or axes really, the fact its not in the base game its major step back compared to previous titles.
Dude, i love starfield but the lack of melee and unarmed is a hard one to swallow. Its bad enough that weapon variety is so crap, but melee and unarmed is just a travesty they took nearly a full extra year of development and this is all there is?
Thanks for the heads up! The build I’m most looking forward to is “the Rocketeer” all jet pack flight!
Hoping someone mods in melee weapons. This needs skyrim unarmed guantlets with that heavy armor perk.
Judging by the fact there are no unarmed weapons i honestly dont think bethesda intended for players to use unarmed almost at all.
It is my belief that unarmed perks were added as a challenge for melee users to gain additional perks since a lot of the unarmed skills also affect melee.
I dont think it was meant for anything beyond punch a few weak aliens to death over and over until you rank up, then switch back to a melee weapon.
I wanted to do a fisty build but if the grind isn't worth it I'm not gonna do it. now I'm a sad panda 🐼
That is quite disappointing. I guess that means I’ll be waiting to make a Battle Angel: Alita character…
You need to join the "Disciples of the lost Stars". It's a martial arts dojo.
Maybe you could try mixing in consumables and the force powers you get? Idk I haven't played the game yet. But that's how I did unarmed in fo4
This is a minor spoiler but there is a power that disarms enemies which helps. There are also chems that boost unarmed/melee damage by 20% but honestly everything in the video is completely right. It just feels bad to play and you get completely destroyed by gunfire while outputting miniscule damage.
@@GeckoTechGamingyou would also have to obviously utilize slow time and gravity power too
Cyberpunk does unarmed right, once you get as far as your arms can physically take you, you swap them out for metal ones and keep levelling up. Plus theres the whole boxing side quest.
To be honest though its a little bit too OP if anything, but it's just as much fun punching goons into oblivion at level 50 as it is at level 5.
Has someone checked to see if the melee skill still boosts fist damage, like they're technically melee they just aren't weapons, but maybe it's still programmed to stack? Maybe delusional optimism but I figure there's a chance.
I started out with the idea of making an Unarmed character, but I was very quickly disabused of that notion.
The points investment alone was daunting enough, and it was quite apparent that there were no other force multipliers in the game to enhance my damage. Instead, I play her as more of a "gun-fu" build: Pistols and pistol strikes ranging from mid- to close-range combat. It's fast, fun, and versatile, and at Level 20 I only have two points invested so far: Pistols and Ballistics. Now I wonder if Martial Arts would aid in weapon-strike melee combat?
Unarmed and melee just feels so on rail. Its the same set of 3 strikes on repeat, and it takes you out because after the 3 the game resets and replays the anims with a delt it feels a bit clunky. Even fnv/fo3 had better unarmed melee than fo4 or skyrim
We have a bloody *boost pack* in the game.. why in god's name would they not include a literal superman punch that causes you to slam into targets at a distance for the cost of a little boost charge? Extremely easy fix, can bake in a really large stagger modifier or larger damage and put it on a small cooldown.
I don't believe that Bugthesda ever intended unarmed to be the main playing style, more like a last resort self defense when you have no more ammo.
saints row 2 had unlockable fighting styles back in 2008 for christ sake 15 years later and this is what we have