I never really took "that's how I started out" as Alfred implying that he was once connected to the dream. I always felt like he was implying he primarily hunted beasts in the early phases of his career, but became an Executioner before very long.
here we are, in an age with graphics so realistic they might as well be movies. Dark souls 3 and bloodborne in particular have such fantastic visuals, animation quality and sound design that it could be considered some of the best even in such a generation, and, yet,THE NPCs STILL DON'T MOVE THEIR MOUTHS WHEN THEY TALK
Fungo, I'm really digging this. You've done a lot more with analysis of the lore of Bloodborne than a lot of others I know, and I've found your insights fascinating. I don't know how many Madman's Knowledge you consumed, but I'm grateful for it. May the Good Blood guide your way!
+Jaimas Yeah fungo's great. I always recommend him when someone asks me if I know any good channels. Two other great "insight" channels are Jerks Sans Frontieres and Redgrave. They - just like fungo - go in-depth. Redgrave is the guy who wrote "The Paleblood Hunt".
Billy Kane Absolutely. Both Redgrave and JSF deserve 100 times the views and subscribers. They deserve to have an audience like Vaati. fungo deserves that too, of course. I'm not bashing Vaati here, I love his content and he's one of the most humble guys in the community and I'm glad he's pretty much THE biggest Souls creator, but I think others deserve a big spotlight too. Btw, this completely unrelated to what I said, but I'm glad Vaati is a pillar of this community. He is humble, puts out great content and his kinda "rational" way of seeing things keeps this community which contains lots of retards and COD kids (let's face it, DrkS2 and Bloodborne caused a gigantic influx of new players, and lots of them are COD kids and people who have yet to "mature" and don't laugh at and repeat every single meme) from going completely mental. ENB, Marcus, is - in my humble opinion - THE most important pillar of this community in terms of being a content creator whom people watch. His great personality (he's just a good dude) and rational thinking make him the voice of reason IMO. I hope that one day fungo and other Souls creators get the recognition they deserve and can serve as their own voices of reason or maybe not. I love fungo's sense of humor. It's stupid, but smart, if that makes any sense.
lore videos is going to make you famous. dunno why but i have this uncanny ability to subscribe to people just before they boom... you must be about to explode!
I'm impressed how much work you've invested in making these videos and finding all the facts within the game. It's remarkable how well thought-out the mythology and the universe is. It would make for a page-turner book.
I don't even have the game and you have help me understand many things on this game that I wouldn't have understand for a while or maybe not at all. Thanks for all the help and making things more sense. Keep up the good work.
Have you ever called upon the Old Hunter known as Queen Killer? He wears the helmet of an Executioner and the way he handles the cannon suggests he's damn strong. Though the timeline is vague I wonder if he might have been a younger Logarious or perhaps the unspoken inspiration. Or might he have been a fellow Executioner who hunted after Yharnham while Logarious led his fellows after the Vilebloods on a night that was ideal for begetting a Child of Blood?
Excellent video, taking time to go into details while keeping it interesting. Can't wait for part 2, I haven't seen anyone really explaining the vilebloods in depth.
+Max18KMG The next video will be 24 minutes long, so I'm going as in-depth as anyone can go. It's going to be hard juggling playing DS3, juggling new video ideas, and working on this Vileblood video. My mind will Frenzy for sure.
Another great video! The Vilebloods, and the Executioners had a lot more depth than I originally gave them credit. I usually pursue the Hunters rune , but maybe I will pursue the one these other runes in my next play through.
I really love your work fungo, you make awesome videos and I love your interpretations of the Souls games lore. Keep on being awesome and I hope you have a good day.
+Lava Dude62 Thank you. I hope people really enjoy the deep analytical deconstruction of the game's lore complete with evidence. Others like to do a more cinematic approach that requires less research and footnotes, but I like to do more of a documentary style approach like this.
Remember when he had 16k subs now look at him just when I thought there wouldn't be any more bloodborne video he still manages to do them. Keep up the great content fungo
great video cant wait for part two. im a fan of your older silent hill vids also. will we ever get funny weapon reviews for souls games like you did for silent hill?
+Recht_voor_zijn_raap Vaati is more cinematic while I'm more documentary. Though, since he is the most popular Souls contributor, it bothers me when I hear him give false information or leave out important bits of lore.
10:41 Now here I'd just like to say, I don't think the curse came about because they slayed Kos, I forget where but there is some evidence in the game to suggest Kos was already dead by the time the hunters came along and the curse is really because the hunters took her unborn one to be studied by byrgonworth.
I think maybe when Alfred says he was once a "hunter of beasts" he means he was a church hunter. Hunter is a broad term and does not always apply to those of the dream. Plus, the Executioners are a part of the church, so it is hard to believe someone like us would take the side of such a suspicious entity.
I really doubt that Laurence was the one who brought the blood to Cainhurst. Bygenwerth was a college, and typically higher education was the forte of the children of nobility. We know that the Cainhurst family were the feudal lords of Yharnam, or at least a large part of the area. We also know that a member of the Cainhurst family studied at Byrgenwerth and assisted Willem in his research. Lady Maria participated in the Byrgenwerth raid on the Fishing Hamlet. It's not a stretch to assume that any number of Cainhursts could have studied at Byrgenwerth, and one of them stole the blood of Queen Yharnam or Ebrietas to deliver to Annalise.
Regarding what can seen around the 9:30 mark: Has anyone ever come up with an answer (or even a throw-away theory) for what has happened to Willem ? It appears that either pasty white, or outright bioluminescent, growths are sprouting from his back. But why? His aversion to using The Blood is so well established that claiming it's just a weird form, or a partial example, of the Yharnam curse/beast transformation doesn't fit at all.
you said the only way to rid yourself of the dream is to do the moon presances bidding but in djuras set description it says he used an ashen blood ritual to do so ( thos this could be ridding himself of the blood transfusion at the start of the game ). im curious on anyones opinions on this and on how cool it would be if an ending in a possible sequal led us to be a follower of djura. i dont know i just feel like there was more to that then we saw.
also im not sure if the choir is protecting willem. keep in mind hes hiding a tool (rom) of the school of mensis who are fighting (shown by the corpse in the unseen village) with the choir. i think that since the choir hunter couldnt find the key to see what willem was hiding for the school she just waited to see if any students would come back. keep in mind the school used insight to ascend so perhaps they brought this idea to willem in hope that if he let them use the lake to hide a safe guard that protected the schools activities, he could see his ideas realised and proved. the choir even have spies in the school (edgar, choir inteligencer) so it would make sense that they were not friends with willem i loooove this game and all the theories its given me
Wonderful video! However there is one thing I believe you are mistaken about... I don't believe there is any indication that Alfred ever had anything to do with the Hunter's Dream. He says he was a Hunter, but you don't have to dream to be considered a hunter, and I very seriously doubt all the hunters we meet have dreamed. It just seems a little far-fetched to me, he never mentions the dream, or that he has any knowledge of it. And with how chatty he is, I'm pretty sure he'd mention it at some point if he knew. Other than that, this is a fantastic video! It's awesome to have all the lore and such right here in front of me! Makes it easier to suss out the story.
I would like to bring your attention to 'Paleblood Hunters'. I think only Paleblood Hunters awake in the Hunter's Dream. So in that respect, it is implied that Djura and Eileen were once Paleblood Hunters. Not all beast hunters became Paleblood Hunters
+FirstName LastName Never heard of any of them, but I'm sure they are doing just fine. :) I come to my own conclusions about the game's convoluted meanings and don't read or watch up on it, but maybe I'll catch up on their stuff after I'm done analysing the game completely.
***** Redgrave, also known on reddit as dmcredgrave, is the guy who wrote The Paleblood Hunt. The 90 pages analysis of Bloodborne lore (which became over 100 pages after the DLC). Jerks Sans Frontieres has a *very* interesting series called "Bloodborne Close-Up" Where he looks at areas and examines very small details. If you plan on checking it out, I suggest starting with his video about the Hunter's Dream, or the two videos he made about Nightmare Frontiere. The cool thing here is that his content can suit your needs because he shows his examination of these small details and you can then form your own speculations on them. Aegon of Asotra on the other hand has a different approach, he's the kind who is closer to the community and has a segment within his video where he examines comments made on bis videos. His own analysis of the lore is still good and he has a series titled "Let's Talk Lore", which is basically a lore playthrough where he slowly goes through the game. He sometimes even brings Redgrave or Jerks Sans Frontieres on the show to talk together on the lore of a location. Their level of dedication might make their audience into a niche following as their videos are often long and in some cases can get ramble-y but all in all I enjoy their content and I've learned a lot about Bloodborne's lore that I started lore hunting myself and found a lot of interesting things on my own, albeit some of those things were already discovered by some and I haven't really disclosed them into many people as my posts on reddit don't get upvoted that often :/
***** Oh, and by the way, couple of notes on your video. Alfred said he started out as a Hunter, but that doesn't necessarily means that he was a Hunter of the Dream. There are indeed Hunters who were once captives of the Hunter's Dream, but their could be many who weren't. On another note, Ebrietas is mainly studied by the choir and doesn't seem to be the source of the Old Blood in Yharnam and here's my reasoning why. The item description of the Izs Chalice (which we obtain from killing Ebrietas) states the following: "A chalice that breaks a labyrinth seal. Great chalice unlock deeper reaches of the labyrinth. The Great Isz Chalice became the cornerstone of the Choir, the elite delegation of the Healing Church. It was also the first Great Chalice brought back to the surface since the time of Byrgenwerth, and allowed the Choir to have audience with Ebrietas" What we can deduce from this is that the Choir (and by extension, the Healing Church) were already established before they made contact with Ebrietas, so they could've had another source for Old Blood before Ebrietas. It could even be that Ebrietas was never even a source for Old Blood for them. Indeed if you watch Redgrave's video titled "Little things in Yharnam: Oedon" you can even interpret the evidence that Oedon could be the source of the Blood and all Old Blood in Yharnam is Mercury! Trust me, the video makes a lot of sense if you take your time to watch it, it's a very worthwhile video with compelling evidence. At any case, the point I was making is sorta-served here that Ebrietas might not be the source of Old Blood after all
+FirstName LastName I say "Possibly" and "Perhaps" a lot that seems to get lost in translation, though Alfred did say the holy medium for blood healing is venerated in the main cathedral and Ebrietas is just below it. I never mentioned it in the videos, but, really, I think the first source of Old Blood is from Amygdala. Hence the structures all throughout the church made out for the entity. I try to be more open with the actual source of Old Blood so I lump all the Great Ones together as the source. HP Lovecraft calls his entities Old Ones because they have been around for eons, so I don't think Old Blood is old and coagulating, but rather it's being harnessed from the Great Old Ones fresh. But there are three kinds of Great Ones discovered in this order: Ocean Dwelling (Kos, Rom), Slumbering Underground (Amygdala), and from the Cosmos (Ebrietas, Oedon). The first to be discovered was Kos, but was slain. The second seems to be Amygdala as it was found in the labyrinths and awoken, and that seems to be the "holy medium" discovered by Byrgenwerth scholars. I try not to theorize too much in my videos hence why I probably never wrote them in and rather just lumped them all together. Alfred being a part of the dream is not confirmed though, and I should've been more careful in my writing about addressing that, but it's what I've always gathered from how he greets you, so I never thought twice about it. Also, as I said, I like to come to logical conclusions through evidence in the game without the influence of less tangible theories because then it'd be hard to decipher what was said in the game or theorized by a fan. I learned this from being very active in the Silent Hill community and the theories got pretty wild, so now I try to stray away from that. Like I said, when I think I've got Bloodborne all covered (and I'm 90% there), I'll go watch those videos. I still have plans to do at least two more Bloodborne videos at some point addressing The School of Mensis, Yahar'gul, The Choir, The Pthumerians, and the Great Ones.
***** Thanks for the response. When it comes to Amygdala, I have posted a theory on reddit once where I theorized about the many Amygdalae we find in Yharnam (mostly in Yahar'gul) to be the source of the Old Blood. But my theory went for crazy tangents about Oedon, because you see, Amygdala is the only Great One within a dream that does not give us the "Nightmare Slain" message when killed. So I had assumed based on Redgrave's theory about Oedon being the source of Old Blood (which is a pretty solid one) that the relationship between Oedon and Amygdala is the same as that between the Orphan of Kos and his "shadow". Leaving the wild theories aside, Alfred's dialogue (which I'm well aware of) isn't an evidence I take for granted. the souls series never presented the NPCs involved in its story as an omniscient tool for the narrative to be presented through. Alfred could well be wrong, or mislead by the church, as it's evidence by the line he says right after that, where he mentions that he isn't aware of the ins and outs of the church which could be hinting at the possibility that he may be wrong, at least that's the way I take it. Alternatively, the holy medium he speaks of could be Vicar Amelia herself. I've always taken the nature of Blood Saints as a sign for the hierarchy of Blood Healing. As a Vicar, Amelia is the headof the Healing Church (At least that's what Vicar means in the Bloodborne universe according to the Gold Pendant's description) is the one who's in utmost communion with the Great Ones, and the Communion Rune directly tells us the following "Blood ministration is of course, the pursuit of communion" So I took that as a sign that the Healing Church partakes in communion as groups where the Vicar is the one who ministers his own Blood to Blood saints (in some sort of ceremony) who then go on to minster their own Blood to the citizens of Yharnam. So rather than the medium being the source, I think it's more likely to be the grand vessel that pours into other smaller vessels. Damn, I went with long convoluted theories again, sorry for that. At any case, there's some lost context I'm basing my theory off, like this whole phenomenon where pollution and impurities (most notably, Mercury, since mercury poisoning has its place in Japanese culture in ways that Bloodborne makes reference of) which this picture perfectly illustrates cdn.thinglink.me/api/image/452147492813799426/1024/10/scaletowidth/0/0/1/1/false/true?wait=true Just to make it clear, I do not take credit for the theories about mercury and its relevance to Bloodborne's lore. But there are many clues for its relevance which I wish I could get into but I'm already getting too ramble-y, if you're interested, watch the video I mentioned earlier where Redgrave talks about Oedon (iirc he starts out slow and some of his tangents can be a bit stretching it but the main theory he wants to present is pretty solid). Theories aside, he makes clear distinction in his essay (The Paleblood Hunt) between what is facts taken from observation. and what is his personal speculation. Sorry if I'm inconveniencing you in any of this. And just to note you bring good points that I would otherwise never have considered, like the fact that every hunter of the dream before us left the hunting of beasts and as such was no longer needed, plus a lot of other poins which made me thoroghly enjoy the video. I love this channel and the videos you make, so keep up the good work and may the good blood guide your way
He isn't there anymore because his helmet is passed on to you, along with his duties. you can summon him in the nightmare after that and he won't have a helmet on. As for the madaras twin that spawns I haven't a clue...maybe he opposes confederates maybe fungo can shed light on that...because there were two brothers and one can be spawned at bergen Werth and another at the woods...it said that one murdered the other and went mad...
+darkwzrd4 Yeah, I have no proof for that other than in the way he says: "You're a beast hunter too! That's precisely how I started out!" It entails he started out like you did. He could've just been a church hunter. It's vague so I guess there's not enough to go on to say for sure.
Very ingenious parallel you drew here. TESLA WAS RIGHT JUST LIKE WILHEIM, his investors having interests in oil was the problem. Just like the lust for old blood.
+Priyank Kumar Tesla was a genius who renounced reality for his fiction. There are multiple scientific sources that debunk Teslas ideas left and right.
+fungo Um... edison didnt create the lightbulb. What he is credited with is finding the current model of lightbulb. I believe it was a fillament and he didnt even do it himself. He had a whole building of people trying different things. Many also died from this using dangerous chemicals with no protection and the true "creator" lost to time. Edison was a complete asshole.
+Hacm I have Bloodborne and I doubt it because Dark Souls 3 is about to come out in 2 days so I think its safe to assume most people will move on to that game
Souls games are more like an oldschool game than a new one. The way you level, explore, the story, and the animations. It's just something you get used to in this series
+Lord Fallen Any mild-mannered person playing a game like this would likely be overjoyed and out of character after defeating a seemingly impossible boss. I go more in-depth on his character in the next part.
Thanks for still posting stuff about this game, even though all the other big channels rushed into a DkS 3 fever. Which ends up being very annoying since they are playing before everyone else and ... well... I hate spoilers. plus Bloodborne lore is far from exhausted.
I don't think Alfred is the same kind of "hunter" that you are. In bloodborne, there's a ton of different types of hunters. -There are the moon-scented Hunters (you) who take after the Old Hunters in the dream. -There are the Hunters of Hunters, who hunt other capital H Hunters. -There are the Vileblood Hunters who don't necessarily use the dream but hunt with their Pthumerian Blood -There are the Healing Church hunters, who are more or less blood endowed humans pretending to be Hunters with a capital H. They hunt beasts and humans alike with conventional (or unconventional means) Including: --The Yharhagul hunters, who are just assholes that kidnap people. --The Executioners, who hunt Vilebloods only. Alfred would mostly coincide with The Executioners, though this is even proven to be false when it is later revealed that he's simply an idiot who idolizes The Executioners, without really knowing who or what they are, and not actually belonging to their creed. He's more like a cultist, or a weabu.
+Garl Vinland I agree with your list of hunters as, yes, those are the bands of hunters, but I disagree with points and would like to contribute more knowledge. - There's no evidence to suggest Vilebloods have Pthumerian Blood or are at all connected. Needs proof. - Yhahar'gul Hunters aren't for the church, but answer to the village's founders - the School of Mensis. My theory is that they kidnap people for experimentation - possibly creating the One Reborn, but there's not a whole lot to go on to prove that. - What I find more ridiculous is your notion that Alfred just "idolized" The Executioners and wasn't actually a part of them. That needs proof as well.
***** Well, other than 20% of the details in these games being speculation as a whole, I can say with some certainty: -The Vilebloods, E.G. Cainhurst nobles, are descendants of some sort, to the Pthumerians. Their porcelain appearance, vampiric nature, and natural "blood magic" powers all link together. Not to mention that Yharnam, Pthumerian Queen, shares the same battle theme as Martyr Logarius, with the track being specifically named "Queen of the Vilebloods". This is a not so subtle nodd to the idea that they are related, Annalise being the new "queen" and Yharnam being the Old. Both also sport the (at least in Annalise, believed) ability to bear a "Child of Blood". Arianna, as you've stated in your videos, is a descendant of Cainhurst and has been selected to bear a Child of Blood, much like Mergo, the infant of Queen Yharnam. This also creates an interesting contrast as to why the Healing Church and the Vilebloods are at odds with one another. The Vilebloods sporting a natural affinity to the old bloodline through ancestry, and the Healing Church imbibing the blood artificially. - The School of Mensis is at odds with the Church, yes, or better yet, they are at odds with The Choir. See, there are so many sub-sects from Byrgenwerth it's difficult to keep track of who's who, other than the fact that they all stemmed from the same origin. -Alfred not actually being an Executioner is the easiest to argue for, as it's evident in his dialogue. In the beginning, he claims to be a beast hunter, who does not know the ins and outs of The Healing Church, and as you said, not even alluding to any amnesia or reference to The Dream, indicating that he was a Beast hunter and not a (Capital H) Hunter. He is also constantly interested in swapping knowledge that the two of you have "learned". He was not present in the raid on Cainhurst, and is (as we know) the last "Executioner" even alive, and for no reason. His equipment changes as the game progresses, slowly acquiring more and more Executioner relics until he is fully garbed in the formal attire as well as becoming more Brazzen in his dialogue when speaking on behalf of The Executioners. He was not aware why Annalise was spared, or why Logarius was considered a Martyr, thinking that only death could be honoured with such a title (He even commits suicide after his side quest). Clearly he does not know much about Cainhurst or his own Executioners, either insinuating he is a fan or a new recruit. If you attack him when he's done his deed in Cainhurst, he asks if you are "jealous" with an emphasis on the word. Perhaps Alfred was Jealous that he could not take part in the raid on Cainhurst, or that he wasn't even truly accepted as an Executioner in Logarius' time. Also keep in mind that Alfred's character is an Archetype of Solaire's, and to an extent, Lucatiel's and Ostrava's. He is not as he seems to be. Of course, most of this is speculation.
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I never really took "that's how I started out" as Alfred implying that he was once connected to the dream. I always felt like he was implying he primarily hunted beasts in the early phases of his career, but became an Executioner before very long.
here we are, in an age with graphics so realistic they might as well be movies. Dark souls 3 and bloodborne in particular have such fantastic visuals, animation quality and sound design that it could be considered some of the best even in such a generation, and, yet,THE NPCs STILL DON'T MOVE THEIR MOUTHS WHEN THEY TALK
That bothers me too. But you know what's weird? Andre's mouth moved in ds3 but it's not in sync. For all the detail in these games.
Fungo, I'm really digging this. You've done a lot more with analysis of the lore of Bloodborne than a lot of others I know, and I've found your insights fascinating.
I don't know how many Madman's Knowledge you consumed, but I'm grateful for it. May the Good Blood guide your way!
+Jaimas Yeah fungo's great. I always recommend him when someone asks me if I know any good channels. Two other great "insight" channels are Jerks Sans Frontieres and Redgrave. They - just like fungo - go in-depth. Redgrave is the guy who wrote "The Paleblood Hunt".
+iWillWakeYouUp Jerks' videos are insanely in depth, quality stuff!
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Absolutely. Both Redgrave and JSF deserve 100 times the views and subscribers. They deserve to have an audience like Vaati. fungo deserves that too, of course. I'm not bashing Vaati here, I love his content and he's one of the most humble guys in the community and I'm glad he's pretty much THE biggest Souls creator, but I think others deserve a big spotlight too.
Btw, this completely unrelated to what I said, but I'm glad Vaati is a pillar of this community. He is humble, puts out great content and his kinda "rational" way of seeing things keeps this community which contains lots of retards and COD kids (let's face it, DrkS2 and Bloodborne caused a gigantic influx of new players, and lots of them are COD kids and people who have yet to "mature" and don't laugh at and repeat every single meme) from going completely mental.
ENB, Marcus, is - in my humble opinion - THE most important pillar of this community in terms of being a content creator whom people watch. His great personality (he's just a good dude) and rational thinking make him the voice of reason IMO.
I hope that one day fungo and other Souls creators get the recognition they deserve and can serve as their own voices of reason or maybe not. I love fungo's sense of humor. It's stupid, but smart, if that makes any sense.
lore videos is going to make you famous. dunno why but i have this uncanny ability to subscribe to people just before they boom... you must be about to explode!
Man your Bloodborne stuff is the bomb.
Hey fungo did you know that Solaire and Alfred are voiced by the same person!
+JayRPG Hahaha, isn't that awesome? Hard to tell with that mask, but I knew. I think I read it on the Wiki. I couldn't tell by listening though.
+JayRPG well that kills my theory
Also if there's any Skyrim fans, the person who voiced Parthurnax (the dragon at the top of the Greybeards mountain) also voices Mario.
+fungo Praise the Blood Moon!
@@jayrpg9114 hes voiced a lot of characters in games
A lengthy lore video, my favourite thanks fungo you're awesome!
I'm impressed how much work you've invested in making these videos and finding all the facts within the game.
It's remarkable how well thought-out the mythology and the universe is. It would make for a page-turner book.
I don't even have the game and you have help me understand many things on this game that I wouldn't have understand for a while or maybe not at all. Thanks for all the help and making things more sense. Keep up the good work.
I never noticed those fierce sideburns Alfred has going on
Please don't be done with Bloodborne lore. You are incredible and non pretentious.
Have you ever called upon the Old Hunter known as Queen Killer? He wears the helmet of an Executioner and the way he handles the cannon suggests he's damn strong. Though the timeline is vague I wonder if he might have been a younger Logarious or perhaps the unspoken inspiration. Or might he have been a fellow Executioner who hunted after Yharnham while Logarious led his fellows after the Vilebloods on a night that was ideal for begetting a Child of Blood?
You and Vaat make the best lore videos but i really love your humor, keep it up
Excellent video, taking time to go into details while keeping it interesting. Can't wait for part 2, I haven't seen anyone really explaining the vilebloods in depth.
+Max18KMG The next video will be 24 minutes long, so I'm going as in-depth as anyone can go. It's going to be hard juggling playing DS3, juggling new video ideas, and working on this Vileblood video. My mind will Frenzy for sure.
Another great video! The Vilebloods, and the Executioners had a lot more depth than I originally gave them credit. I usually pursue the Hunters rune , but maybe I will pursue the one these other runes in my next play through.
I really love your work fungo, you make awesome videos and I love your interpretations of the Souls games lore. Keep on being awesome and I hope you have a good day.
+Lava Dude62 Thank you. I hope people really enjoy the deep analytical deconstruction of the game's lore complete with evidence. Others like to do a more cinematic approach that requires less research and footnotes, but I like to do more of a documentary style approach like this.
+fungo hey fungo what's the song you play in the begining?
Remember when he had 16k subs now look at him just when I thought there wouldn't be any more bloodborne video he still manages to do them. Keep up the great content fungo
Makes me
So happi :3
Fungo !!!! you have the best story explanations and I look forward to your dark souls 3 breakdowns
Fungo,you are amazing man...not much more to say
just watched this today and noticed the music is very similar to that of aldrich, devourer of gods in dark souls 3
Im so in love with your bloodborne lore videos 😍
this is the only part of the lore i had trouble Following.... thanks for the Video~
I freaking love your lore videos!
great video cant wait for part two. im a fan of your older silent hill vids also. will we ever get funny weapon reviews for souls games like you did for silent hill?
Amazing! 👏 I hope you go deep into dark souls 3 also! Thank you for putting effort in the game also the deep lore behind it!
You are really good on explain the storyline Fungo and a love your videos
love the video cant wait for the second part keep up the good work
Great lore, beautiful and dark
I love that you are releasing a Bloodborne video only 2 days before Dark Souls 3 comes out.
You must accept Vileblood
Someone's urging for a purging
Joe Johnson fam i think he fucked off 4 years ago dumbasd
Really good video i always watch your and Vaatiividya 's video's for the best lore
+Recht_voor_zijn_raap Vaati is more cinematic while I'm more documentary. Though, since he is the most popular Souls contributor, it bothers me when I hear him give false information or leave out important bits of lore.
I am finally getting the ps4 and this game in a few weeks. It's been so long, I need you Bloodborne!
10:41 Now here I'd just like to say, I don't think the curse came about because they slayed Kos, I forget where but there is some evidence in the game to suggest Kos was already dead by the time the hunters came along and the curse is really because the hunters took her unborn one to be studied by byrgonworth.
Boy this was a nice surprise. Do you have any plans to do lore videos for dark souls 3?
I think maybe when Alfred says he was once a "hunter of beasts" he means he was a church hunter. Hunter is a broad term and does not always apply to those of the dream. Plus, the Executioners are a part of the church, so it is hard to believe someone like us would take the side of such a suspicious entity.
I really doubt that Laurence was the one who brought the blood to Cainhurst. Bygenwerth was a college, and typically higher education was the forte of the children of nobility. We know that the Cainhurst family were the feudal lords of Yharnam, or at least a large part of the area. We also know that a member of the Cainhurst family studied at Byrgenwerth and assisted Willem in his research. Lady Maria participated in the Byrgenwerth raid on the Fishing Hamlet.
It's not a stretch to assume that any number of Cainhursts could have studied at Byrgenwerth, and one of them stole the blood of Queen Yharnam or Ebrietas to deliver to Annalise.
Regarding what can seen around the 9:30 mark: Has anyone ever come up with an answer (or even a throw-away theory) for what has happened to Willem ?
It appears that either pasty white, or outright bioluminescent, growths are sprouting from his back. But why? His aversion to using The Blood is so well established that claiming it's just a weird form, or a partial example, of the Yharnam curse/beast transformation doesn't fit at all.
more of this series
Great work. Keep it up
Moonlight Butterfly theme is so calming!
+Mi2Lethal also its gwyndolin's theme as well
+Mi2Lethal I heard that song while playing my daily morning Dark Souls fix and had to use it. I'll be using Ash Lake for the next part.
Awesome, will be looking forward to the second part!
i have just now notticed that he had imagine of runa "hunter" on his chest
great work!
Great vid as always Fungo! BUT WHERE IS THAT SILENT HILL VID YOU PROMISED AGES AGO?
I'm new to Bloodborne, and this video gives a COMPLETE end-game spoiler! NO WARNINGS OR ANYTHING!
finally another lore vid
Finally a bloodborne video!
The hunter who attacks you in Byrgenwerth is in Choir garb though, right? Would a Choir hunter be defending Willem?
you said the only way to rid yourself of the dream is to do the moon presances bidding but in djuras set description it says he used an ashen blood ritual to do so ( thos this could be ridding himself of the blood transfusion at the start of the game ). im curious on anyones opinions on this and on how cool it would be if an ending in a possible sequal led us to be a follower of djura. i dont know i just feel like there was more to that then we saw.
also im not sure if the choir is protecting willem. keep in mind hes hiding a tool (rom) of the school of mensis who are fighting (shown by the corpse in the unseen village) with the choir. i think that since the choir hunter couldnt find the key to see what willem was hiding for the school she just waited to see if any students would come back. keep in mind the school used insight to ascend so perhaps they brought this idea to willem in hope that if he let them use the lake to hide a safe guard that protected the schools activities, he could see his ideas realised and proved. the choir even have spies in the school (edgar, choir inteligencer) so it would make sense that they were not friends with willem
i loooove this game and all the theories its given me
WHERE THE FOCK DO YOU LIVE?! ITS 4:00 IN THE MORNING. Thanks for the vid.
this is so great video
Wonderful video! However there is one thing I believe you are mistaken about... I don't believe there is any indication that Alfred ever had anything to do with the Hunter's Dream. He says he was a Hunter, but you don't have to dream to be considered a hunter, and I very seriously doubt all the hunters we meet have dreamed. It just seems a little far-fetched to me, he never mentions the dream, or that he has any knowledge of it. And with how chatty he is, I'm pretty sure he'd mention it at some point if he knew. Other than that, this is a fantastic video! It's awesome to have all the lore and such right here in front of me! Makes it easier to suss out the story.
I would like to bring your attention to 'Paleblood Hunters'. I think only Paleblood Hunters awake in the Hunter's Dream. So in that respect, it is implied that Djura and Eileen were once Paleblood Hunters. Not all beast hunters became Paleblood Hunters
I enjoy your videos
Just a random thought, but does good blood and the church of the good chalice have anything in common or am I just stretching it?
Amazing! By the way, Fungo, what are your thoughts on Aegon of Astora, Redgrave and Jerks Sans Frontieres analysis of Bloodborne's lore?
+FirstName LastName Never heard of any of them, but I'm sure they are doing just fine. :) I come to my own conclusions about the game's convoluted meanings and don't read or watch up on it, but maybe I'll catch up on their stuff after I'm done analysing the game completely.
***** Redgrave, also known on reddit as dmcredgrave, is the guy who wrote The Paleblood Hunt. The 90 pages analysis of Bloodborne lore (which became over 100 pages after the DLC). Jerks Sans Frontieres has a *very* interesting series called "Bloodborne Close-Up" Where he looks at areas and examines very small details. If you plan on checking it out, I suggest starting with his video about the Hunter's Dream, or the two videos he made about Nightmare Frontiere. The cool thing here is that his content can suit your needs because he shows his examination of these small details and you can then form your own speculations on them. Aegon of Asotra on the other hand has a different approach, he's the kind who is closer to the community and has a segment within his video where he examines comments made on bis videos. His own analysis of the lore is still good and he has a series titled "Let's Talk Lore", which is basically a lore playthrough where he slowly goes through the game. He sometimes even brings Redgrave or Jerks Sans Frontieres on the show to talk together on the lore of a location. Their level of dedication might make their audience into a niche following as their videos are often long and in some cases can get ramble-y but all in all I enjoy their content and I've learned a lot about Bloodborne's lore that I started lore hunting myself and found a lot of interesting things on my own, albeit some of those things were already discovered by some and I haven't really disclosed them into many people as my posts on reddit don't get upvoted that often :/
***** Oh, and by the way, couple of notes on your video. Alfred said he started out as a Hunter, but that doesn't necessarily means that he was a Hunter of the Dream. There are indeed Hunters who were once captives of the Hunter's Dream, but their could be many who weren't. On another note, Ebrietas is mainly studied by the choir and doesn't seem to be the source of the Old Blood in Yharnam and here's my reasoning why. The item description of the Izs Chalice (which we obtain from killing Ebrietas) states the following:
"A chalice that breaks a labyrinth seal.
Great chalice unlock deeper reaches of the labyrinth. The Great Isz Chalice became the cornerstone of the Choir, the elite delegation of the Healing Church.
It was also the first Great Chalice brought back to the surface since the time of Byrgenwerth, and allowed the Choir to have audience with Ebrietas"
What we can deduce from this is that the Choir (and by extension, the Healing Church) were already established before they made contact with Ebrietas, so they could've had another source for Old Blood before Ebrietas. It could even be that Ebrietas was never even a source for Old Blood for them. Indeed if you watch Redgrave's video titled "Little things in Yharnam: Oedon" you can even interpret the evidence that Oedon could be the source of the Blood and all Old Blood in Yharnam is Mercury! Trust me, the video makes a lot of sense if you take your time to watch it, it's a very worthwhile video with compelling evidence. At any case, the point I was making is sorta-served here that Ebrietas might not be the source of Old Blood after all
+FirstName LastName I say "Possibly" and "Perhaps" a lot that seems to get lost in translation, though Alfred did say the holy medium for blood healing is venerated in the main cathedral and Ebrietas is just below it. I never mentioned it in the videos, but, really, I think the first source of Old Blood is from Amygdala. Hence the structures all throughout the church made out for the entity. I try to be more open with the actual source of Old Blood so I lump all the Great Ones together as the source. HP Lovecraft calls his entities Old Ones because they have been around for eons, so I don't think Old Blood is old and coagulating, but rather it's being harnessed from the Great Old Ones fresh. But there are three kinds of Great Ones discovered in this order: Ocean Dwelling (Kos, Rom), Slumbering Underground (Amygdala), and from the Cosmos (Ebrietas, Oedon). The first to be discovered was Kos, but was slain. The second seems to be Amygdala as it was found in the labyrinths and awoken, and that seems to be the "holy medium" discovered by Byrgenwerth scholars. I try not to theorize too much in my videos hence why I probably never wrote them in and rather just lumped them all together.
Alfred being a part of the dream is not confirmed though, and I should've been more careful in my writing about addressing that, but it's what I've always gathered from how he greets you, so I never thought twice about it.
Also, as I said, I like to come to logical conclusions through evidence in the game without the influence of less tangible theories because then it'd be hard to decipher what was said in the game or theorized by a fan. I learned this from being very active in the Silent Hill community and the theories got pretty wild, so now I try to stray away from that. Like I said, when I think I've got Bloodborne all covered (and I'm 90% there), I'll go watch those videos. I still have plans to do at least two more Bloodborne videos at some point addressing The School of Mensis, Yahar'gul, The Choir, The Pthumerians, and the Great Ones.
***** Thanks for the response. When it comes to Amygdala, I have posted a theory on reddit once where I theorized about the many Amygdalae we find in Yharnam (mostly in Yahar'gul) to be the source of the Old Blood. But my theory went for crazy tangents about Oedon, because you see, Amygdala is the only Great One within a dream that does not give us the "Nightmare Slain" message when killed. So I had assumed based on Redgrave's theory about Oedon being the source of Old Blood (which is a pretty solid one) that the relationship between Oedon and Amygdala is the same as that between the Orphan of Kos and his "shadow". Leaving the wild theories aside, Alfred's dialogue (which I'm well aware of) isn't an evidence I take for granted. the souls series never presented the NPCs involved in its story as an omniscient tool for the narrative to be presented through. Alfred could well be wrong, or mislead by the church, as it's evidence by the line he says right after that, where he mentions that he isn't aware of the ins and outs of the church which could be hinting at the possibility that he may be wrong, at least that's the way I take it. Alternatively, the holy medium he speaks of could be Vicar Amelia herself. I've always taken the nature of Blood Saints as a sign for the hierarchy of Blood Healing. As a Vicar, Amelia is the headof the Healing Church (At least that's what Vicar means in the Bloodborne universe according to the Gold Pendant's description) is the one who's in utmost communion with the Great Ones, and the Communion Rune directly tells us the following "Blood ministration is of course, the pursuit of communion" So I took that as a sign that the Healing Church partakes in communion as groups where the Vicar is the one who ministers his own Blood to Blood saints (in some sort of ceremony) who then go on to minster their own Blood to the citizens of Yharnam. So rather than the medium being the source, I think it's more likely to be the grand vessel that pours into other smaller vessels. Damn, I went with long convoluted theories again, sorry for that. At any case, there's some lost context I'm basing my theory off, like this whole phenomenon where pollution and impurities (most notably, Mercury, since mercury poisoning has its place in Japanese culture in ways that Bloodborne makes reference of) which this picture perfectly illustrates cdn.thinglink.me/api/image/452147492813799426/1024/10/scaletowidth/0/0/1/1/false/true?wait=true
Just to make it clear, I do not take credit for the theories about mercury and its relevance to Bloodborne's lore. But there are many clues for its relevance which I wish I could get into but I'm already getting too ramble-y, if you're interested, watch the video I mentioned earlier where Redgrave talks about Oedon (iirc he starts out slow and some of his tangents can be a bit stretching it but the main theory he wants to present is pretty solid). Theories aside, he makes clear distinction in his essay (The Paleblood Hunt) between what is facts taken from observation. and what is his personal speculation.
Sorry if I'm inconveniencing you in any of this. And just to note you bring good points that I would otherwise never have considered, like the fact that every hunter of the dream before us left the hunting of beasts and as such was no longer needed, plus a lot of other poins which made me thoroghly enjoy the video. I love this channel and the videos you make, so keep up the good work and may the good blood guide your way
The holy medium is the pearl slugs.
Will any of this come on the test?
what weapon is that that u use in the video?
hey fungo what about the confederates and how once you crush a few vermin he isnt there and a dude with a axe is outside?
He isn't there anymore because his helmet is passed on to you, along with his duties. you can summon him in the nightmare after that and he won't have a helmet on. As for the madaras twin that spawns I haven't a clue...maybe he opposes confederates maybe fungo can shed light on that...because there were two brothers and one can be spawned at bergen Werth and another at the woods...it said that one murdered the other and went mad...
I don't think he has a connection to the hunter's dream. I believe that he was just a hunter of the church.
+darkwzrd4 Yeah, I have no proof for that other than in the way he says: "You're a beast hunter too! That's precisely how I started out!" It entails he started out like you did. He could've just been a church hunter. It's vague so I guess there's not enough to go on to say for sure.
The executioners killed everything in cainhurst even those not tainted by corrupted blood
Very ingenious parallel you drew here. TESLA WAS RIGHT JUST LIKE WILHEIM, his investors having interests in oil was the problem. Just like the lust for old blood.
+Priyank Kumar Yeah, there's a lot of similarities to Tesla and Willem, even more than what I covered here. Glad you appreciate!
+Priyank Kumar Tesla was a genius who renounced reality for his fiction. There are multiple scientific sources that debunk Teslas ideas left and right.
+fungo Um... edison didnt create the lightbulb. What he is credited with is finding the current model of lightbulb. I believe it was a fillament and he didnt even do it himself. He had a whole building of people trying different things. Many also died from this using dangerous chemicals with no protection and the true "creator" lost to time. Edison was a complete asshole.
"Fear the old blood" might refer to the religious meanin'o worship
I really don't think alfred ever went to the dream, that's a bit of a stretch
Good stuff
great video as always I just got psn plus and I want to know if this game still has a big player base
do you know if it still does because I have been playing the story alone this whole time
+Hacm I have Bloodborne and I doubt it because Dark Souls 3 is about to come out in 2 days so I think its safe to assume most people will move on to that game
+Inspecta The Hero ok thx
+Hacm yes. pleny of people still playing it
+TomatoDragonPSN thx lol
ironically this is released on sunday. LOLOL PRAISE THE OLD BLOOD
I was practically “forced” from someone who shall not be named for 33 secs when I tried to skip to a particular “part 2”... 😏
I can't help but wonder what DNA testing would find in all these different kinds of blood...
Part 2?????
So the game called Bloodborne
Nice video
it like watching a movie and it also so funny dude more video like this one XD
I hit alfred once then he agroed always.. is there a way to undo it?
I wish someone would answer, I need to know😭
@@jalongreen1787 hate to break it to ya pal 😂 you gotta put him out of his misery
is ebriatis daughter of cosmos as hard as people say? im right outside that lair idek if i want to try kill ing it
I never found it hard.
My fellow Christians be like: this shit is satanic. I be like: This shit is interesting
how about a Dark souls 3 review for your next video yes?
Alfred looks like the RUclipsr Alintheoh
How about a spoiler alert....?
Why no lip sync?
Souls games are more like an oldschool game than a new one. The way you level, explore, the story, and the animations. It's just something you get used to in this series
Slightly off topic: Nikola Tesla was a genius who lost touch with COMMERCIAL INTERESTS. How dare he demonetize our lucrative industry?
Mild mannered man. Boy was I wrong.. "MUAHAHAHAHA AHAHAHAH AHAHAHAAH.......eheh"
+Lord Fallen Any mild-mannered person playing a game like this would likely be overjoyed and out of character after defeating a seemingly impossible boss. I go more in-depth on his character in the next part.
+fungo Actually after killing Laurence I screamed "Fucking take that bitch!!!" and gasped for air
Thanks for still posting stuff about this game, even though all the other big channels rushed into a DkS 3 fever. Which ends up being very annoying since they are playing before everyone else and ... well... I hate spoilers. plus Bloodborne lore is far from exhausted.
Ayyyyyy dark souls 3 let's goooo
fuck i just spoiles myself the endimg
bebbebBEEEEEEEETCHHHH
Actually the hunters didn't slay Kos.
Vicar Amelia who did?
I just realized the blood dregs look like sperm,and the fact it talks about bearing a child I'm sure it intentional
Yeah and I think you even get menstrual blood from Arianna
I don't think Alfred is the same kind of "hunter" that you are.
In bloodborne, there's a ton of different types of hunters.
-There are the moon-scented Hunters (you) who take after the Old Hunters in the dream.
-There are the Hunters of Hunters, who hunt other capital H Hunters.
-There are the Vileblood Hunters who don't necessarily use the dream but hunt with their Pthumerian Blood
-There are the Healing Church hunters, who are more or less blood endowed humans pretending to be Hunters with a capital H. They hunt beasts and humans alike with conventional (or unconventional means) Including:
--The Yharhagul hunters, who are just assholes that kidnap people.
--The Executioners, who hunt Vilebloods only.
Alfred would mostly coincide with The Executioners, though this is even proven to be false when it is later revealed that he's simply an idiot who idolizes The Executioners, without really knowing who or what they are, and not actually belonging to their creed. He's more like a cultist, or a weabu.
+Garl Vinland I agree with your list of hunters as, yes, those are the bands of hunters, but I disagree with points and would like to contribute more knowledge.
- There's no evidence to suggest Vilebloods have Pthumerian Blood or are at all connected. Needs proof.
- Yhahar'gul Hunters aren't for the church, but answer to the village's founders - the School of Mensis. My theory is that they kidnap people for experimentation - possibly creating the One Reborn, but there's not a whole lot to go on to prove that.
- What I find more ridiculous is your notion that Alfred just "idolized" The Executioners and wasn't actually a part of them. That needs proof as well.
***** Well, other than 20% of the details in these games being speculation as a whole, I can say with some certainty:
-The Vilebloods, E.G. Cainhurst nobles, are descendants of some sort, to the Pthumerians. Their porcelain appearance, vampiric nature, and natural "blood magic" powers all link together. Not to mention that Yharnam, Pthumerian Queen, shares the same battle theme as Martyr Logarius, with the track being specifically named "Queen of the Vilebloods". This is a not so subtle nodd to the idea that they are related, Annalise being the new "queen" and Yharnam being the Old.
Both also sport the (at least in Annalise, believed) ability to bear a "Child of Blood". Arianna, as you've stated in your videos, is a descendant of Cainhurst and has been selected to bear a Child of Blood, much like Mergo, the infant of Queen Yharnam. This also creates an interesting contrast as to why the Healing Church and the Vilebloods are at odds with one another. The Vilebloods sporting a natural affinity to the old bloodline through ancestry, and the Healing Church imbibing the blood artificially.
- The School of Mensis is at odds with the Church, yes, or better yet, they are at odds with The Choir. See, there are so many sub-sects from Byrgenwerth it's difficult to keep track of who's who, other than the fact that they all stemmed from the same origin.
-Alfred not actually being an Executioner is the easiest to argue for, as it's evident in his dialogue. In the beginning, he claims to be a beast hunter, who does not know the ins and outs of The Healing Church, and as you said, not even alluding to any amnesia or reference to The Dream, indicating that he was a Beast hunter and not a (Capital H) Hunter. He is also constantly interested in swapping knowledge that the two of you have "learned". He was not present in the raid on Cainhurst, and is (as we know) the last "Executioner" even alive, and for no reason. His equipment changes as the game progresses, slowly acquiring more and more Executioner relics until he is fully garbed in the formal attire as well as becoming more Brazzen in his dialogue when speaking on behalf of The Executioners. He was not aware why Annalise was spared, or why Logarius was considered a Martyr, thinking that only death could be honoured with such a title (He even commits suicide after his side quest). Clearly he does not know much about Cainhurst or his own Executioners, either insinuating he is a fan or a new recruit. If you attack him when he's done his deed in Cainhurst, he asks if you are "jealous" with an emphasis on the word. Perhaps Alfred was Jealous that he could not take part in the raid on Cainhurst, or that he wasn't even truly accepted as an Executioner in Logarius' time. Also keep in mind that Alfred's character is an Archetype of Solaire's, and to an extent, Lucatiel's and Ostrava's. He is not as he seems to be.
Of course, most of this is speculation.
Did anyone else accidentally attack Alfred on their first play through and get smoked? I did! Big regret ha
Bloodborne is still better than Dark/Demon Souls
wrong.
Hawkline Kingofcats In your opinion.
Bloodborne > Dark Souls > Dark Souls 3 > Demon's Souls > Dark Souls 2
Billy Kane I’m late but in my opinion bloodborne, then dark souls, demon souls, dark souls 3 and then 2
@@dumbfish97 this is exactly how I see it
FINE IM WATCHING THE VIDEO YOU HAPPY,gosh so rude!!
i think its pronounced "eyes" not similar to is.
Dear Fungo please please please please send me a PS4 so I can play Dark Souls 3 and Bloodborne. . . :-( sincerely, a fan
Hahah
+Braden T ... :-(
Go and whimper in a ditch. Ye poor plebeian
dark souls 3!
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thanks for the spoiler mate maybe next time put spoilers in your title or at the begging of the video
Spoiler alert.