Fabulous access when the "basin" comes out! I wouldn't use breaker parts for braking either. That does seem a lot for a vacumn pump but if others are even dearer then needs must. Nice job.
Great Video. IMHO the 'failing' pump sounded as if the bearings were worn? So I would imagine the unit could perhaps be reconditioned?? TOTALLY agree on not buying second-hand components when it comes to braking components. FYI the new pump noise sounded loud but it was the sound of the unit pumping/priming I suspect vs the bearing noise of the original pump. Keep up the good work. It gives people faith in older Teslas and says a lot about you and your business.
That's very cheap for an OEM part. Plastic covers on pollen filters can cost more than that! I made a video on this subject of car parts, see ruclips.net/video/qKgb5NXr7ow/видео.html
Interesting to see this. I'm afraid though that I am of that age and would of taken it apart to see if I could repair it first. Probably only some bearings going. If it can't be repaired then I haven't done any harm.
Matt thank you for these videos. I run a 2014 Model S P85 from new now 125,000 uk miles. Ive run many cars and renovated both cars and bikes in the past but I will generally do my own maintenance now as Tesla parts and OEM pattern parts are just such a good price and the cars so easy to work on it just makes sense. Ive used Tesla service including rangers on some jobs and TBH prices are very fair. Tesla Chester have been excellent in supporting the "classic" Teslas and Im pleasantly surprised Im still hooning around in this old RWD waiting for a Plaid and or Roadster on order.......will I sell her?.....longer I run it the more I dont want to sell it, says a lot for the design .....free supercharging for life making that a tougher decision as the price of electricity goes up, either way its not like Im roughing it, old Teslas are brilliant.
Good video Matt! I’ve just bought a used Model S which has a noisy HVAC fan. Have you had to replace yours? I might record a video on it if I can figure it out myself 😅
Brakes still work, but just takes more foot pressure, like when the motor cuts out in a ICE vehicle. Residual vacuum usually still assists you to press the pedal maybe one or two times, but then the brakes are a lot harder to operate. That's why it's called "Power Assisted" like steering.
It is a lot of money for what it is but OEM usually means at least double what the retail price would be for the identical part aftermarket. Eg. I bought a MAF sensor for an old volvo, aftermarket price £100, volvo price £250-£300. Turns out what I got was the genuine part in a renault box as the engine was a renault derived unit (the 1.9dci found in cars, vans etc). For safety critical parts your choice is limited by your conscience.
On the Model S, no. The dual motor ones are more efficient as they made other changes too on the later cars. But if it was like for like, such as on a new Model 3/Y, the RWD is more efficient than the LR AWD.
What an untidy layout. There's nothing equivalent to this motor in a conventional petrol car. The brake vacuum is produced by the engine. In over 50 years of driving I have never encountered an issue with brake servo failure. So replacing this component is an additional cost of running an EV. I would be interested to know how much a garage would charge. I would guess we'll over £1k which is more than my current car is worth.
You have to put it into context. No oil changes, brake pads, brake discs, spark plugs, oil and air filters on any of my three EVs that have done over 100,000 miles on each. One had done 148,000 miles and was still on the original brake pads.
It’s expensive to maintain a expensive car. But a BEV is still cheap to own in the long term comparing to a ICE. Our three Model S cars still run with the original brake pump after 300.000 km. Thanks for video will probably be my time to change soon.
Just wait until you have to change those 3 batteries and 3-6 motors, $60k for batt. $15-30k for motors. Not so cheap to own vs ICE cars. Don't own them out of warranty, unless you have very big pockets full of cash.
@@sptrader6316 the fact is that our Tesla cars are all out of warranty they are 10 years old now. Still same original motors and batteries. You never know but at the moment feels like they will last another 10 years. We have never owned cars so long before. Our ICE cars used to last 10 years and 300.000km before the cost to repair was to high. Like a new ICE motor $10.000. Even if we buy a new battery the old battery will still work as a home battery in our garage. A new battery is $10.000 and a new motor is $5.000. (Refurbished).
I have had several vehicles with over 130,000 and have yet to have a vacuum pump go. How much “motor braking” does a Tesla have? I am guessing that’s where the difference is as an ICE vehicle will be using a lot of engine braking and so not hammering the vacuum pump all the time.
Yes, about 90%+ of all slowing down is done via the motor regen rather than the brakes. However, the vacuum pump is always coming on every time you touch the brakes, start the car or occasionally during driving to maintain the pressure....just in case you need the brakes.
From what I have seen, Tesla usually keep the same number when updating parts but just change the letter at the end A > B > C etc.
Fabulous access when the "basin" comes out! I wouldn't use breaker parts for braking either. That does seem a lot for a vacumn pump but if others are even dearer then needs must. Nice job.
Many thanks for this video. Whenever the frunk components are out, it's worth spraying some lithium grease on the universal steering column joints.🙂
Great Video.
IMHO the 'failing' pump sounded as if the bearings were worn? So I would imagine the unit could perhaps be reconditioned??
TOTALLY agree on not buying second-hand components when it comes to braking components.
FYI the new pump noise sounded loud but it was the sound of the unit pumping/priming I suspect vs the bearing noise of the original pump.
Keep up the good work. It gives people faith in older Teslas and says a lot about you and your business.
hmm £450 ? I just replaced the same part on my 2014 Volvo - new Volvo OEM £28.83 inc. VAT....
That's very cheap for an OEM part. Plastic covers on pollen filters can cost more than that! I made a video on this subject of car parts, see ruclips.net/video/qKgb5NXr7ow/видео.html
Have you signed up for the Tesla manuals? It has the full documentation for replacing all the parts of the car and costs £0 per year.
Yes I have. Normally forget to use it though!
Hi There, where do I sign up for that??
Great job. That 6006359 number was on the old pump as well as the larger font number you mentioned
Interesting to see this. I'm afraid though that I am of that age and would of taken it apart to see if I could repair it first. Probably only some bearings going. If it can't be repaired then I haven't done any harm.
Yes you're right. I should have done really.
Thanks thats good to know that its a home repair type job.
I have the same Key fob Holder as you! Works well😃👍👍
Great video thanks!
Glad you liked it!
Matt thank you for these videos. I run a 2014 Model S P85 from new now 125,000 uk miles. Ive run many cars and renovated both cars and bikes in the past but I will generally do my own maintenance now as Tesla parts and OEM pattern parts are just such a good price and the cars so easy to work on it just makes sense. Ive used Tesla service including rangers on some jobs and TBH prices are very fair. Tesla Chester have been excellent in supporting the "classic" Teslas and Im pleasantly surprised Im still hooning around in this old RWD waiting for a Plaid and or Roadster on order.......will I sell her?.....longer I run it the more I dont want to sell it, says a lot for the design .....free supercharging for life making that a tougher decision as the price of electricity goes up, either way its not like Im roughing it, old Teslas are brilliant.
It is nice to know that Tesla do support older vehicles. Love to watch these fix it videos. Thanks Matt. 👍
Had any problem with 4 and 3 way valves leaking coolant ?
No, not yet.
Good video Matt! I’ve just bought a used Model S which has a noisy HVAC fan. Have you had to replace yours? I might record a video on it if I can figure it out myself 😅
Nope, not touch them before.
What would happen if this brake vacuum pump fails? Would the brake pedal go all the way to the floor when pressed?
I'm not sure. I assume not, as you still have the master cylinder pushing against the brake fluid, so the brakes will work.
Brakes still work, but just takes more foot pressure, like when the motor cuts out in a ICE vehicle. Residual vacuum usually still assists you to press the pedal maybe one or two times, but then the brakes are a lot harder to operate. That's why it's called "Power Assisted" like steering.
It is a lot of money for what it is but OEM usually means at least double what the retail price would be for the identical part aftermarket. Eg. I bought a MAF sensor for an old volvo, aftermarket price £100, volvo price £250-£300. Turns out what I got was the genuine part in a renault box as the engine was a renault derived unit (the 1.9dci found in cars, vans etc).
For safety critical parts your choice is limited by your conscience.
Nice pump change. Not sure why I watch it all the way through but I enjoyed it 🤣
Is it suppose to start everytime u press the brake?
Correct.
Are the rear wheel drive more efficient than the dual motor ones
On the Model S, no. The dual motor ones are more efficient as they made other changes too on the later cars. But if it was like for like, such as on a new Model 3/Y, the RWD is more efficient than the LR AWD.
@@GoGreenAutos thank you for the info
love the channel
Thanks!
What an untidy layout. There's nothing equivalent to this motor in a conventional petrol car. The brake vacuum is produced by the engine. In over 50 years of driving I have never encountered an issue with brake servo failure. So replacing this component is an additional cost of running an EV. I would be interested to know how much a garage would charge. I would guess we'll over £1k which is more than my current car is worth.
You have to put it into context. No oil changes, brake pads, brake discs, spark plugs, oil and air filters on any of my three EVs that have done over 100,000 miles on each. One had done 148,000 miles and was still on the original brake pads.
Thanks for the video! cheers
The space under that plastic tub is bigger. Why wast so much space when you can have it for the front?
I think to allow for equipment that other models have, such as air suspension pumps.
It’s expensive to maintain a expensive car. But a BEV is still cheap to own in the long term comparing to a ICE. Our three Model S cars still run with the original brake pump after 300.000 km. Thanks for video will probably be my time to change soon.
Just wait until you have to change those 3 batteries and 3-6 motors, $60k for batt. $15-30k for motors. Not so cheap to own vs ICE cars. Don't own them out of warranty, unless you have very big pockets full of cash.
@@sptrader6316 the fact is that our Tesla cars are all out of warranty they are 10 years old now. Still same original motors and batteries. You never know but at the moment feels like they will last another 10 years. We have never owned cars so long before. Our ICE cars used to last 10 years and 300.000km before the cost to repair was to high. Like a new ICE motor $10.000. Even if we buy a new battery the old battery will still work as a home battery in our garage. A new battery is $10.000 and a new motor is $5.000. (Refurbished).
I have had several vehicles with over 130,000 and have yet to have a vacuum pump go.
How much “motor braking” does a Tesla have? I am guessing that’s where the difference is as an ICE vehicle will be using a lot of engine braking and so not hammering the vacuum pump all the time.
Yes, about 90%+ of all slowing down is done via the motor regen rather than the brakes. However, the vacuum pump is always coming on every time you touch the brakes, start the car or occasionally during driving to maintain the pressure....just in case you need the brakes.
It’s the other way around, very rarely use the brake pedal on a Tesla, thanks to regen braking… brake pads past 100k miles typically
in the video the new pump even makes a louder noise.
As I explained, it doesn't and is no longer audible from inside the car, unlike before.