Tesla S85 Drive unit refurbish - noise and isolation
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- Опубликовано: 13 янв 2025
- We do not only repair electronic on component level, we do not only research and develop solutions for them. We got very capable team of mechanic engineers to repair even hardest mechanical defects on powertrains. Model S 85 arrived with defect and still original Large Drive unit (BASE). Loud low and high pitch rattling noise was coming from it. We completely dissembled rotor site and gearbox side. First coolant penetrated external rotor shaft ball bearing on rubber shaft seal, it was overheated and damaged. Coolant then enter ball bearing and flushed oil lubricant. Second spot of failure was internal ball bearing on first gear from rotor, probably because of damaged rotor bearing. And third spot was High voltage cable water ingress. Lets say 9 years and 320000km without any servicing made some marks on it, but not unsolvable. This drive unit cant hold more than 250000-300000 without gearbox lubricant change, gearbox cleaning and ball bearing change. Big output power of 280kw should be maintained. First signs for servicing are covered by 3 universal rules: 1-noise 2-vibration 3-oil/coolant/body overheating. If you hear any of that, it is better to prevent it.
Fault: Vibration at hard acceleration, squeaking noise on low speed, ratling noise.
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This video helped me track the issue in my drive gear box. EXACTLY the same sound. Very helpful
the best fuckin video i've seen in 2024🤛
Excellent, true professionals, I'm glad I watched this thank you
300 thousand and finally needing repair. I'd say that's pretty much bang for your buck! Great video, well explained!
The broken motor sounds awesome though. That's a much more mechanical sound than the fake sounds OEM designs.
Yeah, it sounds more aggressive
That's exactly what I thought 😂😂😂...really nice.
😂😂
There is one video in German showing a Tesla going 200k km without oil in the gearbox. Also nice stuff! 😂 Rather a compliment to Tesla. He came to the mech due to burning smell in the garage.😢
@@DrChe2025link?
You get to see the sparks going through the path of less resistance around the damaged bearings
Thanks for the video mate. I will share your stuff with my subscribers. Absolutely good channel.
Great video and well done👌 Tanx for sharing
Great job. Thanks very impressive
Bravo, svaka cast! odlican posao!
Great! I liked "ima dušu" :))) It is the same in Bulgaria " Има душа"
Nice video, but you missed two important things. You should have drilled a drain hole in the water manifold to the cavity between the seal and armature bearing. This would allow coolant to drain outside the motor when the seal fails again… and it will fail again. Secondly the bearing damage in the gearbox is from current drain that occurs when the motor fills with coolant. The currant has no place to go except through the gearbox and out the half shafts to ground.
That is showed in our full training video, this is 1/3 of complete process. Check at our evc academy
Vanja pozdrav, koliko košta ovakav popravak.
First of all a big thank you for sharing your knowledge. Would you change seals and bearings periodically say every 200.000km? I have heard about a drain hole to detect leakage before the coolant does damage. Did you get all the required parts from Tesla?? Im in Australia with a 2013 Model S P85+ signature with 380.000km and we dont have a Tesla 3rd party workshop (I know of). And I want to keep the car, it is just great.
Hope all the mechanics are knowledgeable like yourself.
Do you know of any places like this in the USA? I’m interested in a 2015 model s p85d but I’m nervous for a full repair at Tesla but the car looks amazing other than that. 118 k miles and original battery I believe
how does that help you of you are located in Miami and the shop is in Seattle:-D
Electrified Garage, Ocala, FL
Great Work! 🎉 Greets from Germany #DerSasse #NEWSonTour
Great quality video and very informative on the mechanics. Thank you, im watching from San Diego, California.
I would love to learn how to repair my 2016 Tesla model S.
Do you offer an online course?
Sincerely,
Marvin
We offer only real life training.
Which gearbox fluid do you use please?
I would like to also know please.
Liqui Moly TOP TEC ATF 1800.
I have a TMS 85D 2015 Model, On letting go of the gas pedal there is a "mechanic" noise mostly in lower speeds (below 70km/ hr). When I accelerate slowly or faster theres is no noise. Neither is there any noise on maintaining a speed. Noise appears only when letting go of the gas pedal. Is this coming from the gear box (needs a refill of oil) or is there something more sinister going on inside the drive unit? (water ingress/ ball bearings etc?) Happy to get any tip, but I realise these questions are difficult to answer..
@@jackman9979 must be fully remanufactured
So awesome, but, How much with parts and labor ?
2800€ +tax flatrate price. Unlimited mileage, 2 years warranty
How much for a job like this. I got a whining noise on my motor of model s 2013 with only 59k miles. I got a Lincoln mkz with 190k miles and have only done oil changes and some recall repairs. Not sure why my Tesla now that is out of warranty stating to have issues
2.500€
I Have and issue with my 2014 MS P85 had a battery repair 3 months ago ev specialist now 2 months later can came up faults bmw_w123_sw_internal_isolation , bms_w123_internal_isolation car shut down unable to drive. car has done 86,000 miles he wiped the faults drove for 30 miles then same faults then parked car and went into service mode also a new fault. contractors reqiure replacment. alerts BMS-w161-sw-contractor-stress. he says he took off outside cover spots of coolant in cover seal. he thinks motor has gone but I hear no noise he said if can throw up all sorts of faults. Is there anywhere in u.k that will refurb or can the unit be shipped to you for refurb. I dont know if i should do it or scrap the car incaseit could be something else aswell
There is a NEW industry for fixing car manufactures faults...wow...
Where do you source parts like ballbearings and seals for this?
Bearings are us.
Did you do a coolent delete? Are do you do them now as that has been a fix tesla has been doing on the LDUs ( revision U ).
No, we graphite coat rotor and improved coolant ingress mitigation. Rotor cooling is crucial for heat scavenging and for ball bearing cooling. Premature failure is imminent without rotor cooling.
@evclinic that makes sense. Are you aware of the revision U or latest revision Tesla is doing with the LDUs to improve longevity? I'd love to know more as I have a P85D.
@@BFTVCanada yes we have seen, that was released after our public “letter te tesla”.
But i cant say it is “improvement”
Thanks for great video. Are you experiencing the same problems with drive unit of model S90D or just on older models S85? I have a facelift Model S90D 2016 with 222.000 km (oil and coolant liquids renewed) with how much kilometers do you advise to refurbish (if necessary)? (refurbish coolant seal and or bearings)
Dual drive is small drive unit, without any issues
Way better then Tesla mechanics
Mb b250 electric cant insert the axls to gearbox , what kind of technic used to insert it what specific? May be u have some ideas?
If I may ask - what's the total cost of the repair? Thx
Nice work
Whats the price of this job .Thanks for the video
2800€+tax 25%
Great job great video
Tusen takk 👍🚗
The replaced the trans fluid with toyota WS and the noise seems to be getting less the more i drive. Im going to do it again after 500 miles and then a 3rd time after another 500 miles.
Good info, i will test it
Seems equivalent to rebuilding a manual transmission, not too difficult!
@@alan_clough trust me, it just looks easy. It is one of the worst repairs possible. Whoever tried, destroyed it.
@evclinic a true expert makes difficult things appear easy.
Thanks good video. But my rear drive unit only makes a klonk noise when I press gas pedal and same klonk noise when I release gas pedal both only at low speed. Any idea ? Can it be inside drive shafts the drive joints ?
Klonk noise is probably broken subframe
@@evclinic as far as I have I have checked no linkarms or bushings are broken. But there is a play when I turn the rear wheels when the car is up on the lift. More play on rear than on front, it’s a dual motor and no klonk from front en only rear.
Differential @@peteroffpist1621
@@peteroffpist1621
What was your issue? Was it suspension or motor related?
I have a clunk noise similiar to what you describe. 2013 MS S85 rear wheel drive. Tesla mechanic did an inspection and said the front motor bushing is torn/cracked. This would explain the noise, however, he quoted me a $7000 repair cost to simply replace the entire drive unit as I don't think they will do just a bushing replacement. This seems outrageous. As a bushing replacement could be done with just a few hours of labor and the right tools.
LMFAO in the first 30 sec I thought there was a motorcycle outside the car or something
Isn't there a modified component that removes the cooling tube from this motor? I believe they figured that it wasn't required- that is, it was over engineered.
It is required, it is bandaid solution and causing fast rotor ballbearing deterioration
Now heavy is the engine with gearbox?
@@vonPelger 160kg, in USA imperial measuring probably about 600 bananas and 2 nutts
Did u use ceramic bearings?
On rotor shafts yes.
Are you guys in Europe?
Yes
Good video good job
How much was the bill ?
2500€
salut pouvez vous me dire huile pour le drive unit merci Thank You Very Much
Dexron VI
merci thank you very much
Good job! What was the cost of the repair please? I have the same problem.. :) The authorized Czech Tesla service does not carry out this repair and the only option is a new engine. About 6,000 Euros ;-)
For my Czech friends with nice comments i activate big discount and free loaner. Price for refurbish is arround 2800€-3000€. For you 2200€ and free loaner EV for 2-3 days. We need calm and no pressure enviroment to make it high quality. When you are ready make appointment.
6000 euros???.... drive your Electric Tesla down of first bridge!...ahahah
@@capitanandy2535 Mercedes diesel engine costs 26000€ 🤣 200cdi with 80kw power and factory defect components failing every 50000km. Tesla has cheapest powertrian
Ce très chère les réparations j'aitte déjà septique pour les électriques je crois que vais regardes hydrogène pour l'instant traux cher
@@evclinic yup!
good video
thx... you sound a bit russian, ucranian, right? beautiful to see, it the levl of a 'big bycyle repait, and peanuts to 'change scr vale' un ice cars... good ride my friend...
It is very easy to use one top secret tool called Google, EV Clinic is located in Croatia
gear box need oil and filter change
No filter for in this
Sounds like a Volvo 5 cyl!
Here's a permanent solution to never worry about the seal again! ruclips.net/video/nHN5mrreBdI/видео.html Watch until they show the replacement part they install near the end!
you will get with that just bearing overheat and total motor failure below 70k miles. That doesnt work longterm, it is bandaid solution. Every motor without rotor cooling suffers premature rotor bearing failire because of overheat, smae thing what we see on renault, kia, hyundai electric motors. And btw Tesla LDU is much heavier and strogner than those small ones. In germany where they drive 180kmh this would hold just 10k km. We have SciFi solution to keep original design and improved to the point it can never fail.
@@evclinicNewest drive units from Tesla - “U” version - do you know if they changed anything else in the motor to increase reliability? Clearly it works.
@@diyteslaWill work till 70k-100k and bearing will overheat. They didnt change anything
@@evclinic I am near Washington DC, do you know of any EV shop here in the USA that does the same rebuild keeping with the same "never fail" original design? I have a 2013 P85 on its 3rd motor replacement and all the local EV shops want to do the "bandaid" coolant-delete solution.
@@earthquakepilot2114 It is unbeliavable that USA with 200mil people didnt establish 1 workshop with high quality EV repairs, especialy for drive unit remanufacturing. We might have 1 workshop in USA, but on the west coast, CA
Got some noise issues with my 2013 P85+. Does this sound like ball bearings? ruclips.net/video/2csds7_j_RE/видео.html
Yes this is coolant ingress inside ball bearings, multiple failure. Your DU will stop soon completely.
Zvuči kao kakav boxer motor hehehhe
Souds like a fucking race car though xD
Ja sam sipao dextron 6
Taj i ide originalno
@@evclinic iako je bio menjan motor u garanciji pre 70k, ulje je bilo prilicno tamnije od novog tako da bi valjalo to menjati, lako i jeftino..inace svaka cast 👏
Weak bearing shields
Teslas incorrect Construction Engine.
Incorrect coolant seal technology, everything esle is perfect
Some one share these videos with Elon Musk :D
So awesome! “There’s literally nothing to fail in an EV!” Yeah, right. Love to see their face when they are told they have a $6-8k bill to fix the equivalent of a head gasket in their electric motor! And then 2 months later, a $15-20k bill for a new battery! And then a $5k bill for air suspension! And then a $3k bill for A/C failure! And then a $2k bill for battery heater, etc etc etc! “Nothing to fail! No oil changes! Only 1 moving part!” 😂😂😂
Completely not true, motor repair is 2500$ and it will fail after 600000km, battery repair is 5000$.
@@evclinic That’s completely not true. I have seen all the invoices on the user forums. You are talking about some hack repairs. People are not getting those prices. And battery and drive unit failures are happening within days and months, so stop your ridiculous lies claiming they will last 600km. Damn lies! And even if they were getting those prices, that’s still a lot of money for cars that are claimed to never break because they don’t have an engine and transmission! 🤣🤣🤣
@@JetFire9 tthat is because you are stupid. If you compare with OEM price then, do you know that ICE engine is 20000$? Do you know price of transmission?
evclinic.eu/2022/10/16/mercedes-651-od-650-komada-1-valja/
Dont be stupid, complete world is on your palm. We maintain ICE for 14 years, every part on ev is cheaper 4x times
I've worked on electric motors for years. This repair is very easy. The seals are like $30 at most. Bearings can cost about $400 for really nice SKF type stuff. People are afraid of anything new to them. Got noise, replace the whole motor - $7000. A bunch of crap! All you need to do is what was done in this video. Rebuild the motor. You rebuild engines for more than this, and they're much more complicated and time consuming to do by comparison.
As far as batteries go, they're not cheap but they don't always require replacement either. There are many scenarios where the battery can also be repaired at a fraction of Tesla's full replacement cost. And you can get credit for your old working modules. You just have to find a knowledgeable shop to do it. 95% are getting normal battery life which can last up to 350-400k miles. I get so sick of these people with this old horse and buggy mentality. There's more that's right than wrong with an electric car. And they are cheaper and easier to maintain if you have some know how.
@@shwndh Thank you for your thoughtful reply. I think it's important that anyone that reads your comment knows that, with all due respect, you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. First, for you to suggest that all the problems with EV's are bearings is ridiculous. I have a 2023, and they don't have the leaky seal issue of the early Model S that causes bearing failure. My failure is a common one, and it is due to electrical failures that the average home mechanic has no hope of fixing like they could a coil pack, an alternator, a water pump, etc on a regular car engine. The whole drive unit has to be dropped from the bottom of the car which requires a lift for the car. Almost no one has one of those at home. Gone are the days of fixing motor issues yourself in your driveway. It requires special computer equipment that Tesla has not released to customers. They released a watered down version of their computer, but it won't give you what you need to fix these drive unit issues. Tesla charges $7K for a replacement drive unit, and the 3rd parties that work on Tesla's charge $7K for rebuilding your drive unit. So just shut up for once with your silly lies. And if part of your battery goes bad, fixing it is like opening up a light bulb to weld back the filament. In other words, it's stupid. If some of the battery cells are failing due to age, then the others are not far behind. Why would you spend $5-6K to repair a battery that will keep having more $5-6K failures over and over instead of buying a new $15-20K battery? The batteries don't care about miles, they care about time. Batteries are expected to last 10-15 years, so you would have to be an idiot to do that. The average age of a car today is 12 years old. In other words, almost all EV's will need a new $15-20K battery in their lifetime. Just stop replying to EV posts please because you are clueless. Have a good day.
Is Tesla car a piece of crap?
@@lanabyk8012 no. Tesla has most reliable powertrain on planet earth