a pro tip if you're cleaning the paint off a mini in the sink is to put something over the drain, i've made the mistake in the past of dropping a model's head and it bouncing into the plug hole, and then it's lost forever to the drain gods.
Yay Eric’s back! Keep up the good work and keep the old world content up! All here for it and it’s very refreshing from 40k. Keep safe and crack on dude. I’ve watched you for years and love your content!
There was so much genuinely good advice in this video, i love how you approach everything from a direction that is not so intimidating as many others, thank you Eric!
I had an old picture blog on Bugman's Brewery back in the day. Had some of the same lessons, like the gloves and acetone. Another one, is wash before you glue- use dish soap to remove oils. I ended up doing a lot of fun magnet work and pinning too.
I like the historical research included in your choices for the army scheme, results look great, cohesive, impressive. Hope to see more Tomb Kings as your collection grows.
Never really seen a tomb king army, now that I have they seen one, I ahve to say that they look pretty cool! Nice video and thanks for the short tutorial on how to strip metal models.
As someone whose yearly hobby project is to build an army of Tomb Kings, this video has become one of my favorites on the platform. No joking, I come here at least once a day to rewatch it because it's so good! It would be nice more video like this for the other Fantasy/Old World armies!
at first I was thinking those movement trays are odd with the thick lines in between the moddels. then I noticed how perfect all the models where standing. and now I love them and I'm going to make those movement trays for all my miniature lads now!
My name is Eric and I'm also restoring my old Tomb Kings army. :) In my case my original from 2003 to which I added quite a bit last year when I could still find decent deals, I'm sticking to only original 2003 6th ed midels, still need a few units to fulfill the collection of all the original release models, but I do already have around 3000pts. I'm going way over the board with the painting though, so far for the first 30 skeletons I've spent something like 15 hours per skeleton as I want to make this a real passion project and those old models that I bought as a teenager in 2003 have so much sentimental value to me that I really want to do them justice. It will take like 5 years to complete and I don't have another painted army, but hey I probably couldn't play currently anyway due to various things so I don’t mind too much other than I'd like to also get to my Dwarf army full of stunning old models. Oh well, choices...
7:16 a GREAT stripping agent for plastics and metals I've found when trialing was "LA's Totally Awesome" strips models overnight without melting any details
I love the colours. I'm currently looking for a scheme for my 40k army and I'm thinking about teal with bronze trim and purple accents, but I wasn't sure it's going to look good as an army on the table. I'm so happy I discovered your Tomb Kings! They are very similar to what I had in mind and they look a-ma-zing!
@@lukemclellan2141 Chaos Space Marines. I'd like them to be kinda Tzeenchy but not Thousand Sons. I'm a fan of the vanilla Black Legion colours, but the problem is they don't really pop on the table, they blend with the background, and they all kinda look the same, like an black mass of bolters, horns and gold trim. I like the Alpha Legion look and the Horus Heresy era Sons of Horus, so I figured something in between would look bangin.
Great video. Your approach for selecting colours is really clever, and genuinely helpful. I really need to catch up on your videos, I feel like I'm missing out on more of these nuggets of wisdom :). I hope you're doing well mate.
The turquoise scheme is very satisfying. I have some of the very old metal Lahmian vampire women, but I’m uncertain of how they fit into a Tomb Kings army.
Awesome final results! I think focusing too much on the small details is a trap i always catch myself in. The look of a complete and cohesive army looks just as good as a single model painted to a high standard. Quality through quantity
For removing paint off of plastic figures, I used to use Easy Off heavy Duty Oven cleaner spray (yellow can). Place in glass jar, spray heavily. Place lid on jar. Wait a few days an scrub with toothbrush and water. Wear rubber gloves. Repeat as necessary.
Looks great! Also really enjoy the stuff on ancient Egypt too, very tempting to get this army as I've already dived into 40k side with the Thousand sons + Necrons.
These are fantastic, and I want to address a common theme in professional painting I've seen in the last decade or so, and the expectations that theme places on the average painter: The use of the term Tabletop Standard, used in a way to suggest "this is the bare minimum of what you should do to get models on the table". I've been painting GW models for 34 years and I paint well, and as a teacher of painting to others, I think that pro examples of speed painting armies with the caveat that it's "not supposed to be good, just finished" is the biggest deterrent to new painters, as these armies are often beautiful. (You haven't done this here, this topic is tangential to your great video). It's a great feeling as a painter to really hit it out of the park in terms of painting an amazing army, but I have to remind new painters of two things. 1) Tabletop Standard to a painter who is showcasing their work for their livelihood is going to be beyond the best work ever produced by a standard painter, but that painter will still tell you that it's not great. And 2) ignore terms like tabletop standard, battle-ready, and my personal least favorite "slap chop". As long as it reads on the table from 3 feet away you've done your job! I think by you avoiding suggestion that this was a poor paint job or "will do for now" in your video, you've only emboldened newer and aspiring painters to paint more and get better for themselves!
There's really nothing wrong with the idea of "tabletop standard" it's a perfectly reasonable idea that anyone with a steady hand accomplish if they care to.
@@chad4858The problem that I'm talking about is the use of the term applied to very well painted models by excellent painters. Some of GW's own examples of "table top standard" would absolutely blow painting from their 90's books out of the water. The end result of using terms like these is setting a bar of what standard is by the examples of very skilled individuals, which might cost some new painters the confidence to paint their stuff. Standard is subjective, and what we see being called standard is above actual standard when you include the ability of the vast majority of non-professional painters.
I agree with this - whenever I'm on a forum and someone posts pictures of their figures and they're obviously a new painter and the paint job is fairly basic I will always take the time to give a like and an encouraging comment. I'm a decent painter and I get intimidated by the amazing quality of some RUclipsrs paintjobs, so for someone new to the hobby it must be 10x worse.
Most of the things you spoke about I've came to over the decades of casual painting, but nontheless - great video, and really good tips. Love the color scheme too, there is something magical in seeing egyptian blue on a egyptian theme army, it... feels right =)
Always inspiring videos Eric! I've got a few Warhammer Fantasy armies that need a bit of love and paint. I never did paint my Empire army and they've been in a perpetual state of white primer for years. This might be the nudge I need! And yeah, that "dirty little secret" is great to share again: front models and leaders you spend more time on, the back ranks you slap that paint on!! :) Also, need to shout out your amazing desert terrain there again, just gorgeous for the backdrop of your video.
I use a heavy duty paint stripper from the hardware store on my metal models. I can literally start stripping the paint off straight away, though more often than not I stick a bunch of metal minis in a shallow but wide tin can, pour the paint stripper over it, let it sit for about 30 seconds and start stripping away. I once stripped over 100 2nd ed Cadians in less than 3 hours.
Looks fantastic...I've got my first lot of dwarves arriving soon. I didn't play fantasy when it was around so I'm really excited to get going. I also clearly need some strong tone!!
Since most of my minis and scenery are winter/mountain theme, I'll be doing some frozen mummies. I'm thinking Royal purple and pale gold. But I still am working on my blue/black Bretonnians in snow based on the new Heraldry for Parravon.
Lovely video!! It also has to be said that some armies are better for this kind of speedpainting than others, with 3 main elements and they all take contrast/speedpaints very well. Things like Elves aren't just as quick to paint since they often "need" a cleaner look, but a lot of the same rules apply even then! Having a good plan and trying not to have too high standards when it comes to details (I ALWAYS paint too many small details myself. Batch painted my entire horde of 120 clanrats at the same time. Painting the claws and teeth were pretty bad, same with their eyes :P ). But again, enjoyable video and I'll for sure have something similar done with my future Tomb Kings army!! :D
I do mostly 15mm historicals but the "front rank glow-up" is definitely a tool I use a lot. No one is going to see the 20 Grenadiers in the last two ranks at table height.
I'm really enjoying ToW. I had planned on using a conversion tray buy I've been having issues with my 3d printer printing then consistently so that every one of the squares is the same size and im frustrated by it. I'm considering just rebasing now.
Think there is a small error in the painting steps. Instead of Pallid Bone on the wrappings its Bony Matter. Did some testing myself and think this is more the brown tone needed.
It'd be interesting if Howling sand was a reference to Dana howl since she's well known for her love the colour pale sand. Probably not but would be funny
The only reason I ever liked tomb kings was because when I was a lot younger I LOVED ancient Egypt and mummies and when I learned that old world was a thing I’d beg my dad to buy a set of tomb guard but then he told me that they didn’t make them anymore. I’m glad it’s coming back now because I can finally have mummy warriors
Acetone is okay for some types of plastic miniatures. But err on the side of caution and do your research first. It definitely does not work for GW plastics!
Great video as always, your content gives me all the motivation I need to power through my army painting. Regarding "diminishing returns", I'm currently struggling to make fast progress on my army. I don't use any speed paints, as I have hundreds of standard paint pots that need to be used, and I feel by the time I finish painting my army the old school way TOW will be in its 3rd edition. Would it be a net loss to me to switch to speed paints, or is there a way to speed up the classic painting process that you would recommend?
Before speed paints even came out i was using thinned regular paints with a similar effect. Its all about making an assembly line and grinding it out! Put on an audiobook or some good music after dinner and just crush it dude
Great video as always! I wonder what was the contents of this jar at 7:26 originally? I spot Russian words on the label, and the barcode starting with 460 means it was produced in Russia. I believe you live in NY, USA? That's a long way for pickles :D
Loved the historical info in a mini painting video. Just shows how a bit of research and context can inspire and enrich the hobby
yeah the little history sessions mid video are so entertaining
Its the part of erics philosphy of the hobby that inspires me the most for sure!
This feels like reading an old White Dwarf back in the days when it felt like from plsyers for players. Really enjoyed to watch it! ❤
a pro tip if you're cleaning the paint off a mini in the sink is to put something over the drain, i've made the mistake in the past of dropping a model's head and it bouncing into the plug hole, and then it's lost forever to the drain gods.
Plastic for the drain god! Heads for the drain hole!
A+ great video thank you for making use of HOWLING SAND
Its so good
I thought of you when I heard it.
Yay Eric’s back! Keep up the good work and keep the old world content up! All here for it and it’s very refreshing from 40k. Keep safe and crack on dude. I’ve watched you for years and love your content!
There was so much genuinely good advice in this video, i love how you approach everything from a direction that is not so intimidating as many others, thank you Eric!
I had an old picture blog on Bugman's Brewery back in the day. Had some of the same lessons, like the gloves and acetone. Another one, is wash before you glue- use dish soap to remove oils. I ended up doing a lot of fun magnet work and pinning too.
I like the historical research included in your choices for the army scheme, results look great, cohesive, impressive. Hope to see more Tomb Kings as your collection grows.
Never really seen a tomb king army, now that I have they seen one, I ahve to say that they look pretty cool! Nice video and thanks for the short tutorial on how to strip metal models.
That majoras mask quest is the same reason i loved the bone giant as a kid! Love seeing these models get modern paint jobs, nice work
Love it. Working my way through resurrecting my Dark Elves right now!
As someone whose yearly hobby project is to build an army of Tomb Kings, this video has become one of my favorites on the platform. No joking, I come here at least once a day to rewatch it because it's so good!
It would be nice more video like this for the other Fantasy/Old World armies!
I love the real world and Warhammer knowledge we get from your videos!
Great video as always Eric! Love the small tip of concentrating on the first rank! Great tip for beginners and I shall give that tip aswell
Every time i see a video from Eric, it keeps a smiley on my face. Thank you 4 the good content
at first I was thinking those movement trays are odd with the thick lines in between the moddels. then I noticed how perfect all the models where standing. and now I love them and I'm going to make those movement trays for all my miniature lads now!
Awesome stuff as always, really great tips!
Always enjoy your historical deep dives mate
Those shields look amazing.
Also love how you did the ushabti. They always were my favorite unit from the tomb kings roster.
Your videos are so relaxing as well as genuinely helpful
My name is Eric and I'm also restoring my old Tomb Kings army. :) In my case my original from 2003 to which I added quite a bit last year when I could still find decent deals, I'm sticking to only original 2003 6th ed midels, still need a few units to fulfill the collection of all the original release models, but I do already have around 3000pts. I'm going way over the board with the painting though, so far for the first 30 skeletons I've spent something like 15 hours per skeleton as I want to make this a real passion project and those old models that I bought as a teenager in 2003 have so much sentimental value to me that I really want to do them justice. It will take like 5 years to complete and I don't have another painted army, but hey I probably couldn't play currently anyway due to various things so I don’t mind too much other than I'd like to also get to my Dwarf army full of stunning old models. Oh well, choices...
So happy you used Army Painters speedpaints for this. This is my idea, and I needed some comforting. Now of to painting those minis!
Very nice tutorial on painting minis. As I am not a gamer learning that the early minis were made of metal was a bit of a surprise.
Loved the video eric, your colour scheme is so vibrant and eye catching, tomb kings is one of the best looking armies from WFB.
Loving the Old World content.
Amazing! The army looks so good! Love these videos! Gives me great inspiration for my army I am building for Dragon Rampant. Keep it up!
Having been to the Met, I agree about the hippos outshining the gold.
7:16 a GREAT stripping agent for plastics and metals I've found when trialing was "LA's Totally Awesome" strips models overnight without melting any details
I’d honestly never considered doing less detail on the back ranks. That’s a game changer
Man your tips are a life saver and thank you so much. Your models look amazing 🤩
its been a rainy day,
Thanks for the video eric!
Just like egyption artifacts, maybe one day our minis will be prized artifacts
Maybe some will be buried with their armies 🤔
I love the colours. I'm currently looking for a scheme for my 40k army and I'm thinking about teal with bronze trim and purple accents, but I wasn't sure it's going to look good as an army on the table. I'm so happy I discovered your Tomb Kings! They are very similar to what I had in mind and they look a-ma-zing!
What's your army?
@@lukemclellan2141 Chaos Space Marines. I'd like them to be kinda Tzeenchy but not Thousand Sons. I'm a fan of the vanilla Black Legion colours, but the problem is they don't really pop on the table, they blend with the background, and they all kinda look the same, like an black mass of bolters, horns and gold trim. I like the Alpha Legion look and the Horus Heresy era Sons of Horus, so I figured something in between would look bangin.
GOD YES! im so glad someone else thought of majoras mask with the bone giant!
Great video. Your approach for selecting colours is really clever, and genuinely helpful. I really need to catch up on your videos, I feel like I'm missing out on more of these nuggets of wisdom :). I hope you're doing well mate.
Thank you! I am good, i hope you are doing well too bud
The turquoise scheme is very satisfying. I have some of the very old metal Lahmian vampire women, but I’m uncertain of how they fit into a Tomb Kings army.
Awesome final results! I think focusing too much on the small details is a trap i always catch myself in. The look of a complete and cohesive army looks just as good as a single model painted to a high standard. Quality through quantity
Love seeing Tomb Kings! Can’t wait to see more WHFB and TOW content!
For removing paint off of plastic figures, I used to use Easy Off heavy Duty Oven cleaner spray (yellow can). Place in glass jar, spray heavily. Place lid on jar. Wait a few days an scrub with toothbrush and water. Wear rubber gloves. Repeat as necessary.
Fantastic work!
Awesome work. I loved the TKs as a kid
Looks great! Also really enjoy the stuff on ancient Egypt too, very tempting to get this army as I've already dived into 40k side with the Thousand sons + Necrons.
These are fantastic, and I want to address a common theme in professional painting I've seen in the last decade or so, and the expectations that theme places on the average painter: The use of the term Tabletop Standard, used in a way to suggest "this is the bare minimum of what you should do to get models on the table". I've been painting GW models for 34 years and I paint well, and as a teacher of painting to others, I think that pro examples of speed painting armies with the caveat that it's "not supposed to be good, just finished" is the biggest deterrent to new painters, as these armies are often beautiful. (You haven't done this here, this topic is tangential to your great video).
It's a great feeling as a painter to really hit it out of the park in terms of painting an amazing army, but I have to remind new painters of two things. 1) Tabletop Standard to a painter who is showcasing their work for their livelihood is going to be beyond the best work ever produced by a standard painter, but that painter will still tell you that it's not great. And 2) ignore terms like tabletop standard, battle-ready, and my personal least favorite "slap chop". As long as it reads on the table from 3 feet away you've done your job!
I think by you avoiding suggestion that this was a poor paint job or "will do for now" in your video, you've only emboldened newer and aspiring painters to paint more and get better for themselves!
There's really nothing wrong with the idea of "tabletop standard" it's a perfectly reasonable idea that anyone with a steady hand accomplish if they care to.
@@chad4858The problem that I'm talking about is the use of the term applied to very well painted models by excellent painters. Some of GW's own examples of "table top standard" would absolutely blow painting from their 90's books out of the water.
The end result of using terms like these is setting a bar of what standard is by the examples of very skilled individuals, which might cost some new painters the confidence to paint their stuff.
Standard is subjective, and what we see being called standard is above actual standard when you include the ability of the vast majority of non-professional painters.
I agree with this - whenever I'm on a forum and someone posts pictures of their figures and they're obviously a new painter and the paint job is fairly basic I will always take the time to give a like and an encouraging comment. I'm a decent painter and I get intimidated by the amazing quality of some RUclipsrs paintjobs, so for someone new to the hobby it must be 10x worse.
Most of the things you spoke about I've came to over the decades of casual painting, but nontheless - great video, and really good tips. Love the color scheme too, there is something magical in seeing egyptian blue on a egyptian theme army, it... feels right =)
Always inspiring videos Eric! I've got a few Warhammer Fantasy armies that need a bit of love and paint. I never did paint my Empire army and they've been in a perpetual state of white primer for years. This might be the nudge I need! And yeah, that "dirty little secret" is great to share again: front models and leaders you spend more time on, the back ranks you slap that paint on!! :) Also, need to shout out your amazing desert terrain there again, just gorgeous for the backdrop of your video.
I use a heavy duty paint stripper from the hardware store on my metal models. I can literally start stripping the paint off straight away, though more often than not I stick a bunch of metal minis in a shallow but wide tin can, pour the paint stripper over it, let it sit for about 30 seconds and start stripping away.
I once stripped over 100 2nd ed Cadians in less than 3 hours.
That stuff will probably strip the hair from your nostrils too though!
@@EricsHobbyWorkshop If you strip them in a well-ventilated area, then it's not as bad.
Looks fantastic...I've got my first lot of dwarves arriving soon. I didn't play fantasy when it was around so I'm really excited to get going.
I also clearly need some strong tone!!
Haha that bone giant is awesome dude. It reminds me of majora's mask aswell 😂
These look wild good eric!
Great video, so many useful tips! thanks Eric
I am currently resurrecting my undead AoS models into a Vampire Counts army for the old world. Having a lot of fun!
Nice one Eric another banging turn around 👌
Such a satisfying refresh 😎🤙 I'm really wanting to do this with my lotr minis I painted when I was a kid
Really great watch, thanks!
Since most of my minis and scenery are winter/mountain theme, I'll be doing some frozen mummies. I'm thinking Royal purple and pale gold. But I still am working on my blue/black Bretonnians in snow based on the new Heraldry for Parravon.
Excellent video , i was going to rant about GW but i was more interested in your paint job👍
Hell yeah dude. Good tips here
This is really helpful , thank you !
Looks fantastic brother
Very nice Terrain!
Oh my god I’m so exited 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Lovely video!! It also has to be said that some armies are better for this kind of speedpainting than others, with 3 main elements and they all take contrast/speedpaints very well. Things like Elves aren't just as quick to paint since they often "need" a cleaner look, but a lot of the same rules apply even then! Having a good plan and trying not to have too high standards when it comes to details (I ALWAYS paint too many small details myself. Batch painted my entire horde of 120 clanrats at the same time. Painting the claws and teeth were pretty bad, same with their eyes :P ). But again, enjoyable video and I'll for sure have something similar done with my future Tomb Kings army!! :D
I do mostly 15mm historicals but the "front rank glow-up" is definitely a tool I use a lot. No one is going to see the 20 Grenadiers in the last two ranks at table height.
Those classic Tomb Guards are lovely, wish they had brought them back along with TOW.
Great video again!
I was going to sell my tomb kings box set I recently got but now I want to paint them this exact scheme. Guess I’m keeping them after all!
Looking good 👍👍👍
I'm really enjoying ToW. I had planned on using a conversion tray buy I've been having issues with my 3d printer printing then consistently so that every one of the squares is the same size and im frustrated by it. I'm considering just rebasing now.
8:05 watch out for losing bits down the sink drain!
Great stuff!
This is the way 👍
hell yes the goofy ass face on the bone giant holds up so well
So well
Very enjoyable!
Меленъ is a wonderful pickles. Respect
What color would you choose to paint the skin of a king or a hierophant? Thanks
If you are doing small metal parts with acetone. Put a sieve on the drain!
Think there is a small error in the painting steps. Instead of Pallid Bone on the wrappings its Bony Matter. Did some testing myself and think this is more the brown tone needed.
I'd love to know where you got that sphinx with the skull.
The first thing that came to mind was "Nuln oil is instant talent" meme. The models Eric got were drenched in the stuff lol.
Paint scheme is very effective.
so isopropyl alcohol wouldnt damage plastic models? and whats best for resin?
I am the biggest bird
Nah I am the biggest bird
Dont know what you heeeeeeeard
Prays be to bird king
Nice. Welcome
How dare you, sir!
What’s the painting handle you used for the Bone Giant?
I have a Vampire Counts army from 15 years ago I think. I kind of miss it.
Don't worry, we didn't notice you almost dropping the mini into the sinkhole, it's your secret.
Very cool!
scrubbing your minis over an open plug hole is a bold maneuver...
Yeah i guess, i can always just open the u bend to retrieve em . Better to out the plug in though its true
hi, what primer would you recommend?
the miniatures look great
It'd be interesting if Howling sand was a reference to Dana howl since she's well known for her love the colour pale sand. Probably not but would be funny
Very good video👍🏻.
The only reason I ever liked tomb kings was because when I was a lot younger I LOVED ancient Egypt and mummies and when I learned that old world was a thing I’d beg my dad to buy a set of tomb guard but then he told me that they didn’t make them anymore. I’m glad it’s coming back now because I can finally have mummy warriors
More Tomb Kings please!
Boy am I early today :D Edit: great video as always
How do deal with acetone once your done stripping the metal models? Do you wash it off or just leave the model out to dry?
Acetone is okay for some types of plastic miniatures. But err on the side of caution and do your research first. It definitely does not work for GW plastics!
Great video as always, your content gives me all the motivation I need to power through my army painting.
Regarding "diminishing returns", I'm currently struggling to make fast progress on my army. I don't use any speed paints, as I have hundreds of standard paint pots that need to be used, and I feel by the time I finish painting my army the old school way TOW will be in its 3rd edition. Would it be a net loss to me to switch to speed paints, or is there a way to speed up the classic painting process that you would recommend?
Before speed paints even came out i was using thinned regular paints with a similar effect. Its all about making an assembly line and grinding it out! Put on an audiobook or some good music after dinner and just crush it dude
Can you do a video on how to start Warhammer fantasy/old world?
What white primer are you using? I find a lot of them are way too thick
Great video as always! I wonder what was the contents of this jar at 7:26 originally? I spot Russian words on the label, and the barcode starting with 460 means it was produced in Russia. I believe you live in NY, USA? That's a long way for pickles :D
My wife is Russian, we eat a lot of russian food. Might’ve been pickled squash or something, i don’t know
@@EricsHobbyWorkshop Wow, cool! Have you learned some Russian language already? :D
Is that hippo from the museum an original piece from ancient Egypt?
Yea