5 Reasons why I Gave Up Trophy Hunting
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- Опубликовано: 1 июл 2024
- In this video I´ll be talking about the Playstation Network Trophy system, and I´ll explain my experiencie with them for over 2 years. What are them?
Why are some people so interested in them? and most importantly, what leads people to get them? Those are all the things that we will be talking about
in this video.
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Intro 0:00
Reason 1: Collectibles 2:20
Reason 2: Missable trophies and the use of guides 4:06
Reason 3: Online trophies 7:25
Reason 4: Grindings 12:19
Reason 5: Trophies prevent you to enjoy videogames 18:15
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Crash Bandicoot 1 Theme
Dark Cloud 2 Moonlight Tango
Donkey Kong Country Jungle Hijinx
donkey kong country 2 stickerbrush symphony
Super Mario Oddysey New Donk City Daytime
Super Street Fighter II Guile´s Theme
Kirby Superstar Gourmet Race
Sonic The Hedgehog OST Green Hill 
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In theory , trophies are great. When a developer implements them correctly it gives you interesting goals and challenges inside the game and gives you a reason to play a few more times.
Unfortunately half of the trophies are boring as hell especially if you are forced to grind online.
Exactly, the trophies that I liked the most were the ones that make you play the game differently of how you would play it normaly. That makes you enjoy the game in other ways, but sadly those trophies are the exception.
Honestly, online trophies/achievements are the reason I gave up on it a long time ago personally. I'm kinda alright with grinds in single-player as, while it might not be fun all the time, I can at least do it at my own pace but online achievements? Nah, I'm good. Especially the ones like "Get Rank 1 in *insert region here*" or "Come in first place in every ranked map."
Trophies that require you to grind online are the worst, though it depends on what the achievement is exactly.
There will never be a better trophy/achievement implementation better than the 360 era, with Halo 3 being the crowning jewel in my mind. There will never be a greater reward for achievement hunting in all of gaming than the recon armor since you were able to show off your drip in online matches.
Agreed. There are games like the last of us or gta IV and V that I would love to plat and I dont want to because of the amount of effort you need to get them. Especially when you have to coordinate with other people. I remember gta having you to level up to like level 250 which mean 150+ hours of grinding... Just... Why?
@@pedrosilvamusician Oof that's a LOT of grinding haha. See that's not even challenging either. You're being awarded a trophy for lingering really.
It's very frustrating that these types of trophies make a platinum basically unobtainable. The worst one I remember off the top of my head was "Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway" where you had to play every day for a year.
Online trophies are really lame too if the player base does off quickly. I know I've started games and there's just no way to get a trophy becuase you cant find enough people to play.
This is the first thing I noticed and appreciated after buying my switch. There were no achievements and I found myself enjoying the games for what they were again.
Sadly, no trophies is the reason I rarely touch my Switch, feels kinda toxic tbh...
@@estivee Yeah you are kinda toxic if trophies are your prime motivation to play games. You might also be one of those alpha males who does things only to achieve compliments from fellow alpha dudes and supplements cooks.
@@niemand7811 weird assumption to make, but ok.
I did call myself out on my bullshit, I know it's a weird habit to not play games cause they lack trophies.
Anyway, I go to the gym like twice a week in order to feel good, not to get compliments from "alpha males".
@@niemand7811your comment here is what we call "toxic"
@@niemand7811trophies isn't the main reason I play games but they are still important to me. I don't like them to show off I like them cause I just find injoyment of getting rewards on my profile for completing task in my games. I still use my switch alot due to how good the exclusives are but their are some games I think to myself " man I was there was a way to platinum this game " mostly with the zelda series. So usually if it isn't a Nintendo exclusive I'm getting it on my ps5 so that I can platinum. Some of my most notable platinum that I had a really good time platinum are cuphead, spiderman 1 and 2, and the crash trilogy
Such a good video well done! As a completionist from back in the 90's on my N64, I'm finding less and less time these days to deal with stupid grinds. I only attempt 100% on games I love and always prioritize whatever sounds fun to me at the time. If that means stopping my grind on 100%ing a game to play a new one, then so be it. I started typing this before I hit your number 5 reason and it looks like we both arrived at the same destination. Good on you to value your time from now on! Great insights on a true trophy/achieve hunter. And yes, screw MP achievements; That Rayman achievement was crazy! Reminds me of mount hunting in WoW and repeating boring dungeons for a 0.1% chance drops on multiple characters.
Thank you so much! I think that the key is what you said, as time passes, the harder it gets to play video games in general, and we should always make sure that we invest our time properly by doing the things we love the most. And yes, the Rayman´s trophy was crazy, it almost makes me wonder how I didn´t decide to gave up trophies before finishing that platinum XD Thank you for the support!
So true. The main reason I also gave up on trophy hunting is because it took the fun out of the experience entirely. Video games became busy work instead of entertainment, since then I've given up on trophy hunting and only occasionally platinum a game but only if I love the game or find the platinum journey to be enjoyable and my experience has improved exponentially ever since I stopped trophy hunting.
Yes, feeling fulfilled by just completing a game instead of the platinum is a hard but beneficial mentality to have
Agreed
They become busy work because you make it busy work. For example I did the 157 side ops in MGSV like this. Did 50 throughout the story, then did 10 for 9 days and the the rest on the 11th day. I still had fun and could play other games.
@@angel.3006 That’s not a good example though. If you like the core gameplay of MGSV, that trophy could actually be fun. There are plenty of genuinely terrible trophies that no matter how you look at it, would be considered as “busy work” by almost everyone. There are also lots of trophies that make you do optional tasks which are completely different from the main content of the game, and a lot of people can dislike said content.
There are plenty of good examples of bad trophies in this video, ranging from collectible based trophies, missable trophies, online trophies and grind based trophies.
For collectible based trophies, I reckon at least 99% of the people who bothered to collect all nuclear waste in GTA V did not have a fun time doing so. People buy GTA to complete heists, become a successful criminal, drive and explore a vibrant city. They do not buy GTA to slowly steer a 20mph submarine around half an entire state. This is busy work, not entertainment.
As for missable trophies, I’m sure most people do not prefer constantly referring to and religiously following a massive wall of text on a guide on the internet or dedicating hours of their life to watching videos on RUclips to account for missables, over actually playing the game. This additional requirement of research is busy work, not entertainment.
I’m gonna skip over online trophies because the poster of the video already explained how they can be bad, through server shutdowns, unalive servers, etc.
For grind based trophies, I don’t see many people actually running 960km on foot in Dying Light 2. Most people are going to be jumping around, paragliding and using the grappling hook, AKA doing parkour because it is literally a core mechanic of the game. I beat the game 3 times and had just over 300km, despite deliberately running on foot for a good chunk of time. I’d have to play the game at least 10 times over, or completely ignore one of the biggest mechanics in this game if I were to reach 960km legitimately. People buy Dying Light to do parkour and unalive hordes of zombies, not run around in circles for hundreds of kilometres. Most people are going to rubberband their controller to run around in circles for the remaining few hundred kilometres, which is fair enough. I wasn’t even playing the game at that point, I was just watching RUclips and doing other things when I could have actually played a game instead, had this terrible trophy not existed.
Another example of a much unneeded grind based trophy was driving 1000 miles in the Jimmy’s Vendetta DLC of Mafia 2. Not only is the DLC just plain bad, but I think I had around 10 miles driven by the time I beat it. I would have to play this DLC, quite literally, 100 times to get this trophy. Alternatives would be driving up and down a highway thousands of times, or rubberbanding your controller after glitching under the map. People buy Mafia to play as a mafia member, or do work for them, not drive up and down a highway thousands of times for virtually no reason. Again, busy work, not entertainment.
One good example of a franchise with lots of optional content a lot of people may not like, required for trophies/achievements would be the Yakuza/Like A Dragon series. The main premise of these games is to presume the role of a superhuman and defeat criminal organisations. However, some trophies require you to do completely different things, like winning in incredibly rigged gambling games like blackjack, roulette, poker, riichi mahjong, cho-han, oicho-kabu, koi-koi, doing miscellaneous activities like managing a cabaret club, real estate, a baseball team, a robotics club and engaging in activities like fishing, go-karting, playing retro arcade games and eating every single entire menu item in every single restaurant/food store in the game. Not everyone is going to like all of these activities. To most people, doing all of this optional content would be considered as busy work, because they are doing lots of different things they don’t like in order to get trophies.
TLDR, I could go on and on for literal hours, showing examples of trophies that are considered as “busy work” and “not entertaining” by virtually everyone, because it’s true. Saying that it is the player’s fault for considering specific trophies as “busy work” is ignorant because there are so many examples of bad trophies and you are choosing to ignore them and every bit of valid criticism of said trophies.
@@Darkslayer_of_Dojima Im not gonna lie buddy I ain't reading allat
This video was amazing, honestly really well put together. At first for me trophies were great and I loved it. My first platinum trophy was lollipop chainsaw and that’s what lead me to become a trophy hunter. What was fun at first unfortunately started to ruin my gaming experience. Obviously I can’t speak for others but for me I can say that I would look up guides risking spoilers for platinums and checking how long games would require me to play in order for me to achieve platinums causing me to avoid certain games. Some games I would grind hours and hours for 1 trophy making me get sick of the game. I turned off the trophies popping up and I’ve regained the enjoyment I used to have were I would play a game for what it is with just beating the game as my main objective getting through tons of games off my backlog. If I liked a game enough I then would go for the platinum trophy and have been doing it like this ever since
Thank you for the support! That´s something I forgot to mention too, how easy is to get sick of a game that otherwise you would´ve love just because of the trophies. I can´t count the amount of games that were ruined for me just because of how sick I got of them because of the platinum. After I decided to give up trophies I started to do the same thing that you mentioned, just having the goal of finishing the game, and I´m enjoying video games a lot more since then, and I´m glad to hear that you are doing too!
That's the most experienced answer ever thats completely correct, respect for writing all that too
Online trophies are a killer alright, it's essentially a time limit on a game. Once the time is up. No platinum ever.
Since I don't play alot of games like I used too, trophy hunting is my way of getting value out of what I play now.
Great video
Absolutely, and if you enjoy playing old games from ps3, you run into that problem a lot. That's why I paid special attention before jumping into those kind of games, so I wouldn't start playing a game which platinum is no longer obtainable. Thanks for the comment! I'm glad that you liked the video!
@@signout932depends on the game type and how big and active the player base are.
As an example from me I got Need for Speed shift 2, 3 years after initial release but was unable to platinum as there was barely any online races going on. Servers are now offline.
Forever incomplete but that's the nature with online trophies.
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They petitioned that. It may be successful.
@@AdriWalkedX99I feel like modern games often don't do those type of trophies any more
“Make sure you do it for yourself”.
This is me.
I enjoy trophy hunting.
As a veteran gamer, it’s nice to be able to keep a record of your gaming achievements.
And, as you also mentioned, trophy hunting helped me play more games that I would never normally choose.
I was stuck playing GTAO almost exclusively for 11 years.
After gaining its platinum for the 3rd time I was totally bored and needed to expand my horizons.
Trophy hunting helped me with this.
Holy shit. That platinum leader board. If I had 7 thousands platinums I'd fucking hate video games.
Or people who play games to completion love the games they complete, so they want to get the most out of the games.
@@POIUYTREWQ62 absolutely, man. I'm certain those folk with 7k platinums spent 17 cents on 'tap the Mayo jar' because they just love high quality games.
That's what killed trophy hunting very quickly for me, the leaderboard is a giant fraud full of fake boring game. How can you compete people who get 100 plat a day of the same boring game lmao.
That ending to this video was really pulling brother great work. I’m a new trophy hunter, started about 4 or 5 months ago. I’ve only accumulated 17 platinum’s Elden ring being my first, GTA Trilogy being my most recent and Mafia 3 and Kena being my most proud platinums. It’s very addicting. And all I have to say about it is. If u really like that game- try getting the platinum and 100% it, see if u still like that game. 9/10 u wont. 😂 but damn it when u look back on that 100+ hour journey and remember all those sweat and tears u put into that game, it makes it all worth it.
Awesome vid dude. Literally all these reasons are why at some points I have had massive burnt out with trophies especially missables, the idea that I have to look at a guide fully in depth before I play a game for the first time or spend another 20-30h playing the story again really grind on me
I got into achievement hunting on PC (steam) a couple years ago. To keep my sanity I will usually play a game once without worrying about achievements just so I can enjoy it. If i really like the game then i will go for the completion if it is reasonable. I also only care about the number of game completions and not the average completion rate on my profile. That’s another way to ruin it for yourself. It needs to be fun first. Great video man 👍
This is the way
Lol you can just hack your achievements with sampicker. Hunting on pc is a joke
Fantastic video, I never felt so called out - especially on the part 5 which sure hurts me the most. These days really trying to just stop caring about achievements/trophies and just enjoying games for what they are instead of losing my sanity over some useless checklists. For some being a completionist is truly an addiction ^^"
Indeed, addiction is surely a good way to put it, but I´m glad that now you are able to enjoy video games in the way you want!
yeah watching this video it really felt like trophy hunting is an addiction
Remember, at the end of the day they are faux accomplishments and nobody cares, except for you. I might be curious if a friend beat the same game as me but I couldn't care less about what achievements or trophies they got. I would want to talk about our experiences with said game, not compare gamerscores or trophies. Games are too long as it is. Nobody will be able to play everything they want before they die and get every platinum trophy along the way. I know I would get old and regret wasting all that extra time when I could have played through other games.
Good video man. Its funny how i just started and already know what the main reason will be. Almost everyone starts doing trophy/achievement hunting because they love playing the game, so trophies will give you a reason to play it longer, but as time passes it goes in reverse, the trophies are the goal and you just try to enjoy the game while you do play it.
Amazing video! I'll follow your videos. You are respectful and explained everything well! I'm glad you're still going for trophies but in your own terms. Best wishes man!
Usually I'll manage things like this: 1st playtrough = enjoy the game going blind. Following playtroughs = trophy hunting. This way you'll enjoy the game for what it is and then enjoy it again by discovering new things about it. Trophies are good ways to uncover secrets and extend duration in our favorite games.
This is what ima do with the last of us as it already takes a couple play throughs to get platinum but enjoying the story is my main priority
Good video. Recognised a lot of what you were saying from my own experience.
As a veteran completionist, achievements on Xbox 360 seemed like a great idea. It started as competition between friends but I soon outstripped them and never looked back. I began to question myself when arranging boosting matches for multiplayer achievements but it took the bricking of my original HDD to really make me take stock.
They still control my gaming in many subtle ways but never will they hold the same sway over me again.
The online trophies thing is so fucking true man. I had to give up on several games because of online trophies.
Trophies don't stop you to enjoy the game unless that's the only thing you care about
Great topic, I recently feel the same way and have come up with the same conclusions. I also felt that hunting trophies made me gravitate to easier shorter games that I would use to complete community events. Some of them were just crap that I regret playing. Now I want to explore and see all the great things I have put off to the side or rushed through before because I used a guide.
Man I just got the platinum for star ocean tlh, and that was the greatest grind I did in my live. It was a one of a kind thing caus I just wanted to do it and I don't care much about my score otherwise. So I have the same mindset as you have adapted now and can say it's really comfy like this ^^
This was an awesome video man. For me, I love trophies that require you to be at least more than average at the game. Makes me feel kinda "special".
Muy buen video amigo, muy bien explicado, estuve bastante de acuerdo sobretodo con los coleccionables, cuando el juego te los muestra en el mapa son algo divertido y relajante pero cuando no, en verdad te quita las ganas de platinarlo
I've been a trophy hunter since they were released back in 06/07 and I 100% agree with everything you've said.
Personally, I gave up chasing them about 2 years back for similar reasons. I'll still get the platinum if I'm enjoying the game and it's not a chore, but I'm not afraid to play games with unachievable platinums anymore.
Trophies were implemented in 2008, no need to lie here my dearest friend.
@@x_metlShould read 07/08! All I could remember it was when I was on my placement year at University. 😅
I used to be a Trophy /achivement Hunter back on my PS3 and 360 days. Always avoided online trophies.
Nowadays i still hunt but only on games i realy enjoy and even then i often dont do the grind ones. On top of that, and most importantly... I never hunt on my first playthrough. No matter how long the game is.
Loved the vídeo btw
Thank you! I'm glad that you liked the video! I also think that enjoying the first playthrough at your own pace should be a must, but I personally always ended up checking a guide to be aware of missable trophies XD
I love playing games to enjoy but yes either I look up guides because I want to keep playing the game to grind or just if the games are first time to complete for the sake of time.
Outstanding video! Thank you for making it and sharing it. Me personally I only attempt to 100% or platinum games I love or would enjoy playing longer, and that don't have unreasonable tasks like you mentioned in this video. My short list that I've done is Sonic Adventure 2 Battle, Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2, Super Mario 3D World, Final Fantasy XV, and most recently Sonic Frontiers. I know there are several more, but I don't remember as they don't have trophy or completion tracking systems lol I remember the Angry Video Game Nerd talking about wanting to "Complete that love" in reference to fully completing a game he loved, and that's how I feel about the decision to 100% complete/platinum a game or not. Random story, but I also remember being 1 step away from 100 percenting Wind Waker HD, but their was some post game, overwrite save shenanigans on the final screen that confused me, and I ended up deleting my completed game save out of confusion...A tough day. That aside, I'm glad you've found what works for you, and I hope you continue to enjoy video games!
Thank you for the support! I'm so glad that you liked the video! 😊 I like that philosophy of doing 100% of games that you love, it's a good way of expanding your experiencie with the game. It's heartbreaking what happend to you with wind waker, if it was me, I would be so mad I would probably take a very long time until I was able to even play the game again XD but at least you were able to enjoy pretty much everything that the game had to offer!
Thank you for the video! I’m also an achievement hunter and I’ve been thinking about leaving it. I totally relate to your experience with this. The things that I’ve done for some of the achievements that I have…
Thank you for your encouragement, I am finding it to be like an addiction so I’m making me journey now to leave them for good.
I'm glad that the video helped you to make a decision!
At the end of the day, is all about considering what things are worth our time, and feeling happy with the decision we make
You actually gave valid points about not wanting to hunt for trophies.
I started hunting for them in 2020 and have gotten a couple of plats too along the way it’s been fun however I have felt some disappointment in getting the plat for Metro redux, there was so many collectibles and things I had to do on the second playthrough that I didn’t give my self enough time to enjoy the game, also I’ve gotten rather tired of playing new games to potentially get more platinums - that’s why for the past month I have been replaying an old game that I love and have platinumed it a few years ago and I’m having a blast, feels like a weight of sorts have been lifted off my shoulders not to think about getting a trophy most of the time aha
True good mentality to have. I play fallout 4 sometimes even tho I plat it
Great video. I loved getting platinums. I quit however due to switching to PC as my primary system in 2020. I still miss getting platinums and was sad to see that I earned 0 in 2022 when before I always got 1 per month at least.
Great video. Hits home, especially at the end
Thanks a lot!
This feeling you have about it sucking the fun out of games is how I feel about "battlepasses". They've become grinds designed to keep you entrenched into a single game and they usually have time limits. Found myself forcing myself to play just to feel like I didn't "waste" my money-
Great video I used to be obsessed with achievements on Xbox, I had similar problems Best thing I ever did was quit hunting them and enjoy games again.
Great video.
I have some form of completion OCD and I've completed a few games 100% but nowadays looking at my backlog and seeing that I have to grind 700-1000 hours for some games and some games that have online achievements puts me in a spiral. I wish multiplayer trophies were either autocompleted or removed when a game's multiplayer servers were shut down or discontinued.
As someone who has been gaming before the existence of achievements or trophies they never really pulled me in. For me it's just someone else telling me when I'm done with the game and Imo the person playing the game should be the one and only person who decides that.
Good Video Bro! Mad Max broke me in half... Never get the Last trophy
Man... you used some real badass OSTs in there. Such a nice video 🙂
Thank you! I´m glad that you liked it!
As a trophy hunter myself, I agree with what you said and It's totally a-okay to quit if you're not having fun with them. If you're not having fun, then why bother?
I still trophy hunt to this day but because I enjoy the games I play - for the most part, there are a few I didn't, but they're a small minority - and I will stop only when I feel like it. I have nothing to show, nothing to prove, nothing to compare: I do them for myself, and I don't care to look for the rarest trophies because they're rare. There will eventually be the day I'll tackle, say, Super Meat Boy, I am Bread, or even Crypt of the Necrodancer. But that day is not today!
As for your points, I only want to say this:
1) I don't mind collectibles honestly. I do hate when they're missable yes, but they're not always missable and sometimes the game allows you to return to the stage and complete it. I did use a guide for a game's collectible a while ago but it wasn't such a big deal, I only did it because the place was hard to navigate - and because of few missables. I think there are good ways and bad ways to make them work. Making them missable is one of the bad ones!
2) Aaahh, Missables, my second enemy after the online. As a trophy hunter who often tackles jrpgs, Missables are the first thing I look for. One thing is replaying a 20 hour game...another is replaying a 100+ hour jrpg with tons of missables from the get-go, that ABSOLUTELY requires a guide (Looking at you, Trails of Cold Steel games!). Honestly I have no comment: it's spot on!
3) Fuck online Trophies. Nothing else to say
4) Okay I will be the absolute minority in this, but I actually don't hate grinds in games. I don't actually adore them or anything but grinding trophies are the least problematic of the bunch imho, especially if you take your time. You know, do X a day, then, X another day, and so on. Eventually you'll reach to your goal and you're finished!
Like, I'm currently working over Deep Rock Galactic trophies, and the final ones are all about grinding promotions...but hey I like the game and I don't care if I'll take 500 hours, if the game is fun. Again, if it's not fun, then why bother?
5) This is probably complicated for me too, because I always try to prioritize the enjoyment factor before actually caring for the trophies - that's why I have lots of unobtainables in my account. But I can't deny that I still do look at them from time to time, and they can deter me to try a game...but not always. For one I am extremely picky with what games I wanna buy, secondly if the game has a hard list then I know I'll eventually tackle it, but it doesn't need to be right now (I finished the resident evil remake last year, but I haven't done all trophis yet. Meanwhile I finished El Shaddai after years of pause!).
Still, you're also right: if it wasn't for trophies I wouldn't have discovered so many things: some games were much better when trying to go for 100%, not just because they were short but because they hid a lot of stuff behind. (FOTNS: Lost Paradise is a shitty game if you play for the story, but becomes 100% better if you start playing the postgame. It's like an entirely new game!). Plus being able to complete games that I once considered impossible was a really refreshing thing to see, like how I managed to platinum the original Devil May Cry many years after playing it on ps2, where I played it on easy! It's stuff like this that makes you think "I really got better", and this is why I like trophy hunting. I like to see how far I'll go on my next hunt!
You should stop hunting to. Write a whole book to defend yourself, clearly says you know this videomaker is right.
@@tattedking9666 Why?
@@tattedking9666it's his choice and he clearly there find trophie hunting some game fun
Trophy hunting has always been fun for me, I think I just always need some sort of goal in a game besides *get to the end*. Even when I was younger I use to try stuff like playing a game with only a pistol or trying to collect everything I could find. Trophies just give me a way to discover new challenges or parts of games i wouldn't see casually. I definitely have a shifted mindset from how I use to feel about them. I have a couple bad games that I only played for trophies on my profile, but I felt so bad about them that I vowed never to do it again, and I've enjoyed it more than ever before.
I pretty much agree with everything you said great video! I enjoyed it
I did not expect Rayman's trophy to be talked about in this video. That trophy was the one that broke me. When I did the math to see how long it would take me to get that trophy I realized that trophy hunting was dumb in a lot of games. Now, I look at trophies after finishing the game and if I can get the platinum I go for it but if it is something dumb I dont even try
I like trophies like that, that is what make some platinum trophies special and rare, if everything was easy, the platinum wouldn't be special.
Reaching the final level of Awesomeness takes three to four months.
Diamonds are next to impossible to get. Too many hardcore players.
@@angel.3006we don't mind challenging trophies look at crash 4 that game is very hard and challenging arguably even more challenging but for Rayman it not really that the achievement is hard it's that it is a huge grind to be able to get it and requires yout to play everyday for for over a month. For a 2d platformor that's insanely dumb
Awesome video you spoke for me at the end
great video man :)
Pretty cool video. I feel the same trying to get the Hollow Knight platinum, and was my last..
I loved this video!
Trophies/Achievements used to ben fun challenges in most games, but they became a grindfest that sucked the fun out of the game, I was into trophy hunting until I realized I wasn't having fun playing anymore, it got to the point where before starting any game I looked up the trophy list before doing so just to make sure I could 100% the game causing me to miss a lot of great games because of this. On the other side thanks to boosting sessions I met many great people who I still play with to this day. My recommendation is, just forget about the trophies when you are starting a new game, enjoy the game, and if it's a game that you really like then go for it, and 100% that game. I remember finishing games for the second time like NFS The Run and God Of War 3, which I really liked, to 100% them but it was different because I really enjoyed playing through those games again.
Games are supposed to be fun, not a checklist of things to do.
Thanks! I´m glad that you liked the video! I actually had a very similar experience as you did. What started as a fun challenge ended up been an obsession that killed the enjoyment for me. I´m glad that we managed to get over that obsession and started enjoying games again!
I hate how most games to have 50+ trophies/achievements now. When games have 20ish, that's when they're best
Amazing video, amigo!
Very well crafted video. Years ago, I started exploring everything a game has to offer, but in the last months I paid to much attention to my completion rate (which isn’t even that high - 60+%). That prevented me from starting new games. My plan is now to ignore completion rate. It is a great feeling. A separate account is no solution. It is a waste of time.
I´m glad that I´ve found someone that thinks like me about alternate accounts XD. If you really think about it, the completition rate is not that important. I personally enjoyed more to check profiles of people with really impressive platinums on their accounts rather than a perfectcly clean profile full of easy games that take no effort to complete.
So much like mine story with trophies. I started to play on a new gen, saw these tasks and thought: "Cool, additional motivation for me to keep playing games that i already completed". At first time i platinumed every game i played, but as the time went, i experienced more and more issues with them, like online-trophies, boosting, over-the-top-grinding, shutted down servers, everything you described in this video. So i stopped chasing every platinum and now doing it only in games i love, mostly single-players. Although i never bought a game specifically for trophies, or spoilered my first playthrough, i left the platinum for replayability. So i wasn't too deep into this trophy-hunting stuff and stopped trying to be perfectionist relatively fast. Still like tough challenges that trophies might provide you sometime.
And, you know what? I really like that experience. It's not something i would like to do constantly, but boosting with other people was fun sometimes. And even grinding. Like, right now, i have some good memories about that time. But i don't think i want to do that anymore. Something strange :)
Just to say, I watched this video while my controller was rubbed to get a platinum, and I have to say that I really agree with everything you said, but even if I recognize that without trophy hunting I’d be capable of enjoying more the games I play, still I can’t stop getting trophies, I don’t know they’re so satisfying.
There was a point when I created a new account (that became the one I’m currently using) just because I wanted all the games I played to be 100% completion, but fortunately with time I gave up and now I platinum only the games that doesn’t require me to completely burn my brain cells.
The rubber band trick will never get old XD. I totally get what you say, I felt like that for a long time. Even if trophies requiere you to do things that you don't want to do most of the time, they are still satisfying to get, and one can't avoid to be proud after getting a long/difficult platinum. I guess that every once in a while people just decide to change their priorities in life and all the effort that someone puts into something is just not worthy any more, so they use that effort for something else, but as long as you enjoy what you do, nothing else matters!
Final Fantasy XV?
@@dibblidyy it was plants vs zombies battle for neighborville, but in past I had to do it also for final fantasy
Ive got 150 platinums. Recently gave up getting them i was finding myself playing games a certain way & not how i wanted to play them. Since then I've had much more fun i never look at them now just play how i want finish the game & move onto the next one.
There’s a fine line between enjoying collecting trophies & being obsessed with them. The key thing to remember is that they don’t matter - collect what you enjoy & find a happy balance. And nobody really cares about incomplete games on your trophy list, so why should you?
Honnestly so many things you said in this video that I can fully agree with (only exception is that I really love hunting for collectibles even if it werent for trophies).
Grinds are definitely the worst part for me. If the grind is just a small part of the game I can usually stomach it like farming for weapon or item drops in the dark souls games. But when the whole trophy list is basically all about one big grind like fortnite then count me the f out.
Trophies are the most fun when they provide challenges which will feel very rewarding to overcome. I don't feel that satisfaction after a long grind, only just a sense of relief that it's finally over.
I feel this i basically stopped getting all achievements but in some games i do it still. The resident evil games have so good achievements its insane its so fun.
Elden Ring was a great game to max out and get a platinum. The trophies didn't have unreasonable requirements and I loved the game anyway, so it didn't feel like a grind. I do care about trophies a lot, but we shouldn't cross the limit when playing stops being enjoyable or when we make decisions about buying and playing a game or not, based only on the possibility to get trophies.
Yeah, Fromsoftware's platinums are usually really enjoyable to get. I wish more game companies had that way of making trophy lists.
@@AdriWalkedX99 Exactly! It didn't feel like a grind (even though I had to beat the game three times), more like exploring the game fully, which I enjoyed anyway.
@@AdriWalkedX99 ds3 trophies are not enjoyable
Thx for the laughs😂 I got into trophy hunting when I platinum’ed call of duty world at war. I still have flashbacks of running from a million or so grenades
You're welcome 😂😂 I would've loved to play WaW but I wasn't able to find a copy, but I did get the platinum for the Modern Warfare original trilogy, so yeah, I can feel your pain XD
Trophies, provided they're handled properly, can serve as a convenient metric of your progress, as well as entice you to try fun things you might not have thought of otherwise (Mosh Pit in Assassin's Creed Revelations being a prime example). But with very few exceptions, there's *always* a few that are either outrageous difficult or outrageously chancy. There was that one trophy in one of the Project Divas which required getting all the loading pictures, and I swear I spent two hours getting _that one last freaking picture._ I pity anyone who feels a need to get them all. I can't think of anything more certain to completely ruin the game for you.
A well done video! I avoided sessions for most of my gaming life and either got the plat or whatever or didn't because I didn't wanna boost. Did some recently though and yeah timing can still be a bitch haha.
watching this video while casually grinding maneater on ps4/5
good video btw
nice video i stumbled upon.
As a big fan of games i never found myself chasing trophies and i never understood ppl who grind so many hours for something that seems so time-wasting to me.
Indeed i have a few platinum trophies but only on games i really loved.
Not every game should be a platinumed in my opinion. It takes the fun out of gaming.
Wow realy nice video :)
First of all, great well put togheter video.
As a longtime active Trophyhunter i absolutely agree on almost every reason what’s mentioned in the video.
When you mentioned that some people play games because of the trophies and not for the enjoyment, that reminded me of myself and here is a share of i handled that topic in order to enjoy games and hunting trophies.
-Trophyhunting is a hobby or a passion and not a competition of who plays what games and how many trophies you have. People with that mindset should be avoided completely. Trophies should bring people togheter and not create rivalry or unmeasured behavior against each other.
-Set yourself limits. Don’t do trophies that you don’t enjoy or trophies destroying your videogame experience.
A example of myself: I told myself to not complete GT Sport, even when i love grinding. Everyone should have a limit.
-Online trophies as mentioned are one of the worse things. I personally hunt for them when i can do them on my own or with my boosting partners.
Set onlinesessions on apply mode and check their profiles in order to get a feeling on how this could turn out.
I hope my sharing thoughts helped someone at any given time and happy hunting.
I'm glad that you liked the video! And thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts! The first thing you said should be the main rule people should keep on their minds when they decide to start trophy hunting. This is not a race, you don't have to be better that anyone, you do it becuase you want to, and if you want to show your accomplishments to everyone, that's okay, just don't get obssessed with it.
Assassin creed Valhalla made me quit trophy hunting. I played probably about 200 to get the platinum. I have a lot of hard platinum. We gotta remember to enjoy games
Currently playing persona 3 portable, It came out one week ago. I have 75 hours, I've been wanting to play this game for years and because it's my favorite franchise of all time I want to get the plat, I have 2 trophies left and have put in 25 hours of straight xp grinding for these bosses. I'm genuinely so burnt out, seeing this vid hurts man 😭
I have 41 platinums. Nowadays, I only platinum a game if I really enjoy it and want to 100%, like the souls games, the last of us, etc. I grew up on N64 and PS1 platformers, so completion is nailed into my soul.
Some lists bug me though. Slay the Spire is a game I ADORE, but goddamn the luck involved in some of the trophies
That's exactly what I'm doing since i started hunting platinum trophies the first playthrough is to experience the game and enjoy the story and to test if wanted to have the platinum or not it's so much fun to do it that way
About a month ago, I willingly deleted over 2000+ hours worth of save game data from my PSN account completely...after pondering how many of those hours did I actually enjoy each game, vs how many hours I spent wasting on hunting trophies.
Normally I felt a sense of pride in how many hours I put into a game, but after seeing how many hours I sank into the games I played the most, sadness and regret came over me instead.
And here's the kicker. I don't regret having done it one bit. I hardly play my PS4 anymore now and when I do, I just play to play.
But I do make one exception...the Vanquish platinum! Hardest gaming feat I ever had and ever will accomplish. Victory after hundreds of losses was well worth every minute I put into it. It was downhill from there, I figured.
Thank you for being open and honest about this. As a former trophy myself, I understand.
Just play for the joy of playing. No one has anything to prove. We can just enjoy gaming for what it is and has been to each and every one of us!
Are you kidding me? Challenge 6 in Vanquish is what I’m working on right now.
@@KratostheThird do not give up. you WILL beat it!
@@BigMeowOfAZ I already did.
@@KratostheThird see? what did I tell you? Great job, buddy! You earned it!
The only time i had fun doing online trophies is when i was getting the platinum for the last of us i really liked the multiplayer in that game, even when i got the trophies i kept playing for months.
Same! I loved it even though I had to start from the beginning again because my whole camp died when I was missing just one week to finish the first trophy XD but I didn't mind because the multiplayer was awesome.
I've been seeing a lot of trophy related videos on my feed, likely since I've been looking up guides lately for a couple of games I'm trying to platinum. I'll tell you how I feel about trophies, bear with me for a bit as this will be a long comment.
As of now I have three platinums on my PSN account - FFXV, obtained in 2016 just a few days after launch (had a head start with an early copy) God of War obtained within a week after launch in 2018 and Bloodborne in early 2022, which took me 6 years. Why 6 years? Because I lost my original NG+ save file after my first PS4 died and I was very disappointed I lost all that progress and only sporadically played the game with a few different saves until last year when I decided I'd finally get the platinum. It was my most satisfying one.
Right now I'm working on the Assassin's Creed 2 trophy since I bought the Ezio Collection about 3 days ago. I'm already halfway there. It's actually a trophy I acquired way back in 2009 when I bought the game for my PS3 but unfortunately I haven't had a working PS3 for years and I've long since lost all my login info and my email associated with my old PSN account. On that account the other platinums I had were for Prince of Persia 08 and Resident Evil 5. All very easy platinums. I had all the SP trophies for Uncharted 2 on this account as well but my Internet connection was very slow back then so I missed out on the three MP trophies you needed for the platinum. I bought the Nathan Drake Collection in the middle of last year and I intend to get the platinum for all three games. I bought DMC4 SE alongside the Ezio Collection and I intend to get the platinum for both DMC4 SE and DMC5. I've got decent progress with the latter's trophies.
All of these games I mentioned are games I absolutely adore and getting the platinum trophies for me is worth it, as a way of showing my love for these games. I would not, however, get any platinums for games I don't really care for or ones that have very annoying requirements. If in the process of getting the trophies I find myself not enjoying the game and feeling like it's becoming a chore more than entertainment, I stop myself, either to cancel my plans on getting that platinum entirely or come back to it later. But I don't pressure myself to get it. Ultimately it means nothing but the meaning I gave it and I don't have to show off my trophies. I just platinum hunt for the games I lile because I want to. These days I mostly game on PC but trophy hunting in games I love keeps me coming back to my PS4. I agree with all the points in your video. Good work!
I personally would add “Speed Run Trophies” to the list..
Time trials, no damage, winning streak, I told you, all red flags to avoid a trophy list that has any of these
My biggest beef with multiplayer trophies is there are always players who get the game day one and only play multiplayer and after a short time they dominate the whole multiplayer scene and if you come across them while playing you can kiss your progress goodbye on win 50 multiplayer games in a row type trophies.
Ah yes, my hobby for a few years. I'm still trophy hunting. But not taking it too serioustly. I decided to only hunt trophies for hard games, like Dark Souls. I spent a few months finishing DS3 with 30 FPS. Next is Bloodbourne. And I don't want to do that on 30 FPS after my Dark Souls 3 run. So I'm waiting for a remaster or something. But right now I'm going the Metro series. But as you said; I'm trying not to ruin my experience by fixating on trophies. So my code of conduct is: Play through the game how I want; trophy hunt after. This is inconvinient sometimes, but it works. Nice video!
I agree on the online trophy part! Still i love to collect them, especially since playstation added the snapshot feature. Now going through my trophys feels thanks to this pictures like going through a photo album with the feeling of nostalgia!
Actually that´s something that I really used to enjoy a lot too, and I coudn´t help to pose with my character whenever I knew the platinum was going to pop soon hahaha I also have a lot of memories in my gallery thanks to that feature
My first platinum trophy was Resident Evil 5 back in the PS3 era. It was one of the most fun I've had playing with my cousin and we would challenge ourselves by replaying the game over and over with added challenges (i.e unupgraded handgun + knife only). I only decided to platinum the game because I really love the game. I suggest people to play the game first without looking at a guide to really experience it and discover hidden secrets. Only after your first playthrough and you still wanna play some more, I would then start trophy hunting. For example, I've almost platinumed all souls games and I always did a first playthrough without a guide which took me 80+ hours. Yeah some people might say I've wasted 80 hours on the first playthrough for missing side quests, but I guarantee that I've had more fun in those 80 hours than to follow a guide for 20-30 hours to get everything.
I wish I could platinum the ps3 version. I wasnt really a trophy hunter back when I had it.
Great video, i used to be addicted to get the max platinums i could and not caring at all for the game besides it trophies, it wasn't until recently when i bought re2 remake and played it through, while some of it was cool, i really didn't like the way the game played at all and yet i decided it was a good to go for the damn platinum that requires 6 playthroughs despite not liking the game at all, it really screwed with my mind and made me rage alot until i simply stopped and realized that was doing all for that so just a few or no one at all could see the platinum badge in my profile, so i just move on from re2 and went to ghost of tsushima, a game more of my type and boy, as i write this i am way more calm and relaxed playing through GOT but it hurts imagine myself playing games i dislike for the sake of platinum badge but others as well :/
What a well made video!
I think you hit list 100% & your speech at the end is on point. I was definitely serious about Platinum Trophys when I was little bit younger. Only got platinum & trophies cause of my mother would only buy me games 2-3 times a year during that time so had more time for set games. Now as adult I'm about to 26 years old soon, I can't dedicate like used too cause of Life & Work, wouldn't be surprised if more people think the same way. I can go on & on but this video was really good man! Keep it up!
I feel like that's gonna happen to me. When you're working it's harder so it's best to enjoy it
As an adult it's harder to have the energy and time for em, but also we have access to so many games these days! I had like 20 PS2 and 20PS3 games as a kid. Now I've almost 200 on steam lol
I'm not a huge Trophy Hunter but I like to get them if I can. I recently picked up Mount and Blade Bannerlord for PS4 and was so disappointed to find all of the online Trophies, it really sucks to know you'll never get a Platinum to a game you really enjoy.
7:18 That’s crazy, Mad Max was actually my first Platinum Trophy back in 2017 (which is the year the game came out o guess) I’m so glad I got it back then
Stopped going for trophies when playstation got corrupted and logged in to find I had to recomplete assassin's creed for one trophy that didn't save and it was the one that meant you need to complete the whole game again looking for glyphs.
RUclips algorithm recommended, great video man
Thank you! I'm glad that you liked it! 😊
I like to play games and I like trophy hunting. But I put actually playing and having fun infront of the trophies ... it took me some time to learn that to be honest but it isn't impossible.
I have 41 platinum trophies, I'll stop hunting when I reach 101 platinums.
I'd probably be close by now if it weren't for online trophies.
I've got every offline trophy for every WWE game I've played, that's like 13 platinums I've been screwed out of.
Like you, I also got screwed out of saints row 3's platinum, thankfully the remaster doesn't have that trophy.
Great video, exactly what I feel
I only try to get all trophies if I really love a game
I have just given up after 4 years of trophy hunting. Life is too short to spend your time on games you don’t want to play or which aren’t fun for you anymore. I even disabled the trophy notification now. I am just playing for fun and to have a good time. I light platinum a few games here and there if I happen to love them.
I used to collect trophies. It never prevented me from playing games. I played what I felt like, but still, I got burned out in 2015. I got so angry at a game that I quit trophy hunting then and there. My PS3 library had grown so big and trophy hunting was in a way of playing them. It was taking too much of my time. Maybe my dumbest trophy to hunt was killing all the pigeons in GTA4. It took me 3 days 🤦♀️
I’m not dedicated to trophies. However if it’s a game I’m enjoying. It gives me a reason to keep playing the awesome game
12:21 in Castlevania curse of darkness you do this also but you get to have your innocent devil learn a strong fire spell for walking in a circle for 1 hour.
Great vid! but I have to say I think the background music is bit too loud
I always tried getting as many throphies as i could from a young age i have like 27 platinums and i mostly go for games i enjoy playing time and the will to grind are huge factors
to be honest I understand your decision brah
collecting some of these trophies drives me crazy but it's to late for me to stop
I generally had a positive experience with game boosting sessions. But obviously I try to avoid online games as much as possible for getting trophies/achievements.
I would call myself a part time trophy hunter. I only have 43 platinums. I like to play a game first without checking the trophy list and I never watch videos or reviews before I play a game. Trophies are always at the back of my mind but I can still enjoy a game this way.
man ill never forget when pvzgw 2 came to steam so i got it and there where 7 achievements you just cant get, i was so mad i thought about quitting the game but i got over it
I totally agree with you. I am not ashamed to have incomplete trophies for many games, especially those with multiplayer requirement (I don't enjoy playing online). In example, The Last of Us, an awesome game, however my trophy list will be full except of the multiplayer mode, and for the PS3 version the servers are shut down already.
If a player has to go outside the game to get a trophy then the developers have failed.
platinum trophy gives a sense of completion and its not a problem when you're enjoying the playtime to get there but modern gaming wants to waste your time and keep you coming back artificially not only for fun, it sucks
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That statement is very true. I remember grinding games every day, getting hardcore and lengthy platinums just to keep my 40th - 50th place among trophyhunters in my country and get even higher (yes, I had no life). But then I've discovered much more interesting things in real life, started working on my hobbies, trying to get a job, doing studies for university etc. In short, I've had to take a break from trophyhunting. Upon returning to check the board I've found myself hundreds places below from where I've been. Immediately I decided to win back everything, but then, after like 15 seconds, it came to me: how often do we actually look and remember people even on top of the scoreboards? Probably never, because it's always about ego: to see yourself on top. I was still checking the scoreboard from time to time and I admit it: it was kinda painful to watch your account go down day by day. But after some time I've stopped caring about it at all. Instead I was doing some guides, trophy translations and other things that were a lot more creative. Part of the reason was switching from PlayStation to PC where there are no platinums at all. Of course I'm still earning achievements if I can and if I know it's easy just by playing the game and not grinding or looking for collectables. But I surely won't spend hours or days to get a single especially stupid one like I did before.
Last platinum I've got was RDR II, I guess, so it says a lot. It literally sucked all the enjoyment from trophyhunting for me, since it includes all the reasons that are stated in this video. By the end of the journey I was so exhausted and didn't feel anything: absolutely no excitment which I got from previous platinums.
So yeah, listen to Adri, - he knows what he's talking about. Every trophyhunter will come to the same realization sooner or later. And it better be sooner. No more millions of internet tabs with maps of collectables or trophy roadmaps. Finally Dobby is free.
Thank you for sharing your story!
I really felt what you said about the leaderboards.
For anyone that has been hunting trophies for a
while, it hurts to get into your PSNP account and see that the numbers are on red, it happens to me too even to this day, but that bad feeling goes away just if you keep scrolling and see all the hard work that you made at some point.
I personally think that the satisfaction that comes from "I really worked hard for this and managed to get it done" is greater and healthier than the one that comes from "I managed to do this and now I´m above many people".
That´s why I keep getting achievements now on PC, just like you, because I still enjoy some of the hard work that you have to put into some games, but I only do it if it´s enjoyable or if it satisfies me enough when I´m done.
Also, no wonder why your last platinum was RDR2, that has always been one of those games that if I would´ve attempted, I would´ve quited right there and then XD.
It has everything I personally dislike from trophy hunting.
Anyway, I´m glad that you made that decision and that now you are able to enjoy videogames in a healthier way!
I mainly trophy hunt on the PS Vita to show what games are on the platform. I got easy platinum trophies but I have harder ones like Rayman Legends, Battle of Z, Ragnarok Odyssey Ace, and Earth Defense Force Portable 2017. I also got the platinum trophy for Killzone Mercenary last year before their servers shut down.
So very true, online trophies are cancer. They should be on their own separate list like DLC's so that they wouldn't affect platinum.
One negative aspect of trophies is the flood of shitty platinum grab games. You know those games that cost like 1$ and the whole "game" is 'press X to get 1000 points' after which you get trophies for attaining 100, 200, 300, 400, 500, 600, 700, 800, 900, 1000 points and platinum for everything aforementioned.
Creating a separete list for online trophies could be a pretty good solution to be honest. And regarding the cheap platinum games, I'm personally glad that I didn't fall on that dynamic, but even then I have some of those games on my profile. It's easy to end up buying some of those games when you have just a few cents left on your account after making a bigger purchase XD
oof, I feel your Rayman Legends incident. I had a similar one where in a moment of derpness while starting the game i accidently started a new game instead of continuing and it just instantly killed my file just short of the platinum. I was so pissed lol
I feel this video created more addicts than it cured.
Hopefully it cured someone 😂😂😂